/akg/ AK General

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>>32522654
Posting again

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Oh Jesus guys, 2 images already, slow it the fuck down, we need at least 20 posts of text only in between images. Where are those failed abortion attempts from a thread or two ago who were bitching about me posting images as spam? Did you like the last thread's text to image post ratio you fucking cuckhold fags?

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>>32522727
No

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What kind of muzzle device can I put on my 107 to make it look a little more "classic"? I'd put a slant brake on but it would look stupid with 24mm threading

>>32522745
You can't.

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>>32522654

what have i done

>>32522754
Jesus fuck

>>32522738
>that ugly as fuck pistol grip
>that cancerous knock off chest rig

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Wasr.. U dirty whore.

>>32522788
>he didn't immediately destroy the two magpul mags that came with his WASR
>he's keeping the original shitty blonde wood
wow

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>>32522754

Anybody ever order anything from Solartactical?
Wondering if they are legit.

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Guys, I need pictures of how proper .22LR AK's look on the inside. Willing to trade lewds.

>>32523031
I'll never understand that
>go through the hassle of SBRing a Draco or other AK pistol
>just bolt on a shitty ACE style stock that's retard heavy and bulky for little real functionality

>>32522868
I haven't ordered from them, nor have I heard of them before. What were you thinking of buying from them? Their selection looks like shit.

>>32523110
it's been a while since I ordered any shit, so I was thinking I might have them ship me some shit.
(truthfully I don't want to say what I'm considering ordering because it only shows a few in stock and I don't want /k/ to beat me to it...it's nothing special really)

>>32523131
Whatever it is, you'll probably find it at a better price elsewhere. Check Apex, RobertRTG, Rguns, ak-builder, armsofamerica, aimsurplus, desertfoxsales, numrich gun parts Corp, to name a few.

>>32523176
the problem is that I can't find what I want anywhere else but solar. I've checked all of the sites you listed and more. but thanks anyway.

>>32523204
What could you want from a tactical company based out of California?

>>32522810
>magpul mags
Those were each given as Christmas gifts.

>blonde stock
What is a good supplier of these online.

>>32523309
>Those were each given as Christmas gifts.
Well... shit
>What is a good supplier of these online.
Depends on what you want. Apex is alright among others.

>>32523031
Barrel length on this?

>>32523348
It's just a regular Draco

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>>32523348
>>32523399

So between 11.5"-12.25"

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>>32522745
I think that's about as good as it'll ever look, which does look pretty fucking baller dude. 7.62 folders are neat looking.

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>>32523399
That is pure sex. Maybe I'll move to a free state.

Wouldn't mind having this either.

>>32523430
Gee Bill, two Dracos?

>>32523443
Both are still NFA items

>>32522654
Is there a 7.62 AK that has 74 style furniture and muzzle brake?

>>32523031

that is some ugly ass shit familia

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Shitty camera

>>32523474
Oh God, that's a RAS-47 you stupid mong. Why

>>32523487
Wanted a cheap AK

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>>32523493
Unless you payed under 500 you bought one of the worst aks on the market.The wasr is a meme for a reason

>>32522654
>TFW AK-pattern rifle is the only rifle left I "need" to collect
>TFW I live in MD and AK-pattern rifles have been effectively banned

I need to get off my lazy ass and just build one. Still got my Saiga, though, motherfuckers are jelly as fuck every time I go to the range with it.

>>32523493
You bought a death trap instead, congrats.

>>32523458
Yes.

>>32523474
Shitty AK

>>32523443
I've been looking at those

>>32523512
Would've loved a WASR but sadly there's barely any AKs here.

>>32523458
Slr 107fr I think is what you are looking for.

>>32523538
for future reference:

you can buy online and have it shipped to a gun store near you, then pay a small fee at the gun store to have it transferred to you. my local gun store charges $5 for that service, but prices vary from $5 to $20 and maybe higher.

>>32523458
There are plenty with plastic 74M furniture. There are "real AKs" with that combo in the 10x series and plenty of clones.

Not sure about ones with the wood 74 furniture but I'm sure they exist and somebody here is bound to know what they are.

>>32523458

Yes. Buy any 7.62 AK except yugo, then buy 74 furniture and put it on the AK. Then go online and order a 74 style brake with 14x1LH threads and put that on.

>>32523538
Why not just fucking order one and have it transferred?

>>32523458
SLR-107fr

>>32523562
Was first time I'd bought a gun.

>>32523576
Shoulda asked for help/came here

>>32523593
Hindsight 20/20

>>32523619
Dipshit

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>>32523325
Back in the early mid-80s, my uncles decided to each order an AK before the Bush ban ('89?). They were never fired over the past couple of decades. Kinda wish they had ordered polytecs or Maadi but a Sar-1 will do.

>>32523684
>filename
/doubt/

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>>32523688
Pretty easy to do on dashchan app.
See pic of my mighty whore.

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I found a used James River Armory milled AK47 built on a CNC Warrior receiver. I know next to nothing about James River AKs. Any thoughts on whether I should consider it or run?

>>32523442
Thanks m8

>>32523458
My rifle is >>32522745 which sounds exactly like what you're looking for

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>>32523684

>>32523827
Shit i meant to say nice sar.

Would like to refinish my Vz58s Beechwood furniture. What is the best wood finishing technique for maximum protection?

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>>32523827
Any word on when your kit should be done?

>>32523684
Handmedown prebans are the best.

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>>32523862
Derrick said about a month due to it being rainy here in az. (Paint). I could really care less i just want it built right. Tho is going to suck waiting. Atleast its paid for.

>>32523860
depends on what you want to do.

you want to stain it a certain color, then put something clear over the stain to protect it?

you want to just put a non-tinted oil on bare wood, which can help the natural wood grain to be more visible.

you really need to decide which direction you want to go first.

>>32523843
Thanks
>>32523862
I offered $500 but he declined so I bought the Wasr.

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>>32523889

Although the original colour is a little bit lighter wood then I would have liked, I wouldn't mind just keeping the same colour but add more protection to it.

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>>32523881
I've never had any kits built but I share the excitement of people here getting theirs built because it really is exciting watching someone with a pile of parts get them built into a rifle

Someday when I have the space for everything I'll get into building

>>32523954
>keeping the same colour but add more protection to it.

If you want to use an oil, try boiled lindseed oil. It will protect it, but it will need to be reapplied every few years or so.

Tru-Oil is another option and once you're finished with it, then you don't need to re-apply. It will dry shiny, so if you like shiny then you're done. If you want a more satin or matte look, you can knock the shine down with 0000 steel wool.

Whatever you choose to do, make sure and do lots of research online.

How's the weather in canada?

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>>32523972
I really wanted to build it myself , but i pussed out. Ill find another kit hopefully populated barrel, and build that once i get a new place.

>>32523730
That's a WASR, not an SAR-1

>>32524029
Great game 2bh

>>32522754
well the quality of that build does vastly improve upon the INSAS

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>>32524029
>>32524060
Good taste.

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>>32524029
Ciri is best girl and my waifu

Trissfags get out

Yen is ok simply because she's Geralt's waifu

But Ciri still a qt and a best!

>>32522745
>worried about how it would look stupid
>has a sidefolding 7.62 AK.

>>32523557
What a shithead.

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>>32524153
>provide solid advice
>get called a shithead

Love you too!

>>32524072
Who did your laser engraving? I'm batting around the idea of doing a similar one with the Mark of the Doomslayer and some text to be decided on the left ("Until It Is Done" seems less over-the-top than "Rip and Tear", but this would be a Doom thing so maybe over-the-top is the way to go).

>>32524060
>>32524072
>>32524074
Havent played much but i like it so far. Not a big video game guy. Skyrim killed video games for me.

>>32524000

Weather is pretty decent for winter. Nothing I can't survive by warming my hands up on a hot barrel.

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>>32524205
Tactical gear junkie. I'd highly recommend them.

>>32524207
You should play the first two games and read the books too. They're great.

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>>32522654

i dont see whats wrong with it

I am debating on buying either an AR or an AK for my first rifle.

Any pros or cons for owning either?

I would primarily using this for Home Defense, Hog, and Deer hunting, and casual target practice.


I believe my budget will be about 550, unless I just slowly, and I mean really slowly continue to save up.

What budget brands are trustworthy? Any brands I should avoid at all costs?

Aside from, Gunbroker, Classicfirearms, and Gunsamerica, any other good sites for AKs??

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>>32522654

>>32524262
slickguns.com

>>32524240
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=292576

Wow what a deal .

>>32524279
>slickguns.com
Thank you.

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Just put the dong on my 107. It's actually pretty comfy. I'm going to order another wood set from z_recto and have him refinish the dong at the same time. It's pretty dinged up but it doesn't look like it in the picture.

>>32524029
Who xbox one in here??

>>32524138
fight me

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>>32524295
Playstation better.

>>32524285

the insas is better

>>32524207
Honestly the only "Bethesda" RPG anyone should actually play is New Vegas, and that's because it wasn't actually made by Bethesda.

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>>32524328
I liked skyrim more than new vegas ( both great games imo).

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>tfw its not supposed to stop raining until next monday

>>32524309
They're great but the controller doesn't fit my ape hands
>>32524328
New Vegas is my favorite but the gun design triggers my autism. It makes me want an m16a1 clone with wood furniture though

>>32524352
Better hope you dont get a stuck case.

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When the bayonet is out of the sheath, what keeps the sheath from falling out of the frog? My sheath just drops right out of the frog after I pull the bayonet out.

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>>32524376
I've treated that wasr like a red headed step child for almost three years now. Never failed to cycle, but we'll see.

>>32524378
It's supposed to have a rubber thing around the metal part

>>32524043
*pats tenderly anon huge head

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>>32524419
>>32524378

>>32524419
>>32524436
>gee, thanks Apex

Guess I'll have to start looking for that $2 part that I can pay $15 shipping for now.
Thanks guys.
And fuck Apex.

>>32524448
You could email them and see if they have one they can just ship in an envelope or whatever.

>>32524448
Email them. I'm really surprised they sent you an incomplete scabbard. They're usually really good.

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>>32524488
>>32524496
Will do.
Also, what's this little guy for?

>>32524524
Fuck, I know it's something but I don't remember

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>>32524524
There's a fabric hand lanyard that hooks around that thing.

>>32524571
Thanks. More stuff Apex didn't send me.

>>32523972

Speaking of kits built, anyone in the mid-atlantic region have a gunsmith/kit builder company to recommend?

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Alright normies, I'm gonna need you to show me the internals of the Chiappa RAK-22, in return, Feinstein will die this year.

>>32525177
You've asked for this like four times now. Nobody here owns one because this is a thread for *real* AKs.

>>32525177
This is like the 3rd time youve asked this in 24 hours.
Nobody likes you.
Nobody here has a .22 AK either.

>>32525205
>>32525214
Enjoy your California then.

Reposting for further help.

I am debating on buying either an AR or an AK for my first rifle.

Any pros or cons for owning either?

I would primarily using this for Home Defense, Hog, and Deer hunting, and casual target practice.


I believe my budget will be about 550, unless I just slowly, and I mean really slowly continue to save up.

What budget brands are trustworthy? Any brands I should avoid at all costs?

Aside from, Gunbroker, Classicfirearms, and Gunsamerica, any other good sites for AKs??

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AK's are fucking gay

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>>32525255
Agreed

>>32525255
A2 flash hider? Wtf dude. Clone properly

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I doubt it, but, has anyone here used an SRVV FHMB?

I'm considering throwing it on my list of wants for the replacement MD when I buy everything else I want for it

>>32524240
Honestly the design of the INSAS isn't terrible but Indian manufacturing is absolutely incompetent which is why the rifle sucks so much.

>>32525284

i got a jetbrake and its heavy as fuck, my dtk-2 is half the weight

for your rifle, i would probably look into a dtk-3 for aesthetic

>>32525255
Failed get. KYS

>>32524138
Side folders are gods gift to us and you better take that back.

>>32523532
Congrats man.

>>32525255
Ar15s are for bitch babies.

>>32525642
>replying to a 4.5 hour old post just to leave a smartass reply
What did you hope to accomplish

>>32525616
This. Side-folders are pretty much the reason I got into Ak's.

Folding AR's are haram, and other guns that fold/collapse are expensive.

>>32525690
>pls dont b mean!!

Congrats man

>>32522654
So I know hand loading 7.62 is kind of silly but are there any tricks to getting the most out of a AK pistol without the loud muzzle flash like faster buying powder and reduced loads? Want to maybe have an SBRd Draco as a car gun and would prefer not to get dazed by the fireball.

>>32525690
>coming back after 4.5 hours to reply to a smart ass reply
We're all on the spectrum here.

>>32525240
If $550 is your budget, you'll be better off going with an AR. Most of the AKs you'll find in that price range will be American-made junk with cast parts and "self-adjusting" headspace. Low-budget AKs can be downright dangerous.

>>32525740
I'm almost always in /akg/, I'll see the reply no matter how late it's made.

The smartass reply kind of loses its potency when you're that late to the punch. It's just foolish.

>>32525740
>any tricks to getting the most out of a AK pistol without the loud muzzle flash
>SBRd Draco
Yeah, it's called not being a little bitch and double NFA stamping the gun. Go hard or go home.

>>32525788
The dubs are willing but my wallet is weak. Also kind of waiting to see where the hearing protection act will be heading.

>>32525740
>using an NFA item as a car gun
kek. Anyway, check out the Bulgarian 4-piece or the AK-builder/CNC warrior clones.

>>32525798
I get that, but at the same time the HPA is going to make it more difficult in the short term to get suppressors if it does pass. Everyone and their mother will be running out to get one once NFA isn't involved, and the vast majority of suppressor makers aren't tooled up to meet that level of demand.

On the other hand, if you have a trust set up for your SBR and you get your suppressor on the same trust, if/when the HPA passes, you get your $200 back and beat the crowds.

Really, if you're gonna SBR a gun and want to suppress it, the only reason not to do it is flat-out not being able to afford the can yet.

Personally, I'm gonna try to get my trust set up this month so I can buy a SiCo Hybrid 46 with my tax return. The AK I'm building will, oddly enough, end up being the only thing I own with a threaded barrel that won't get use out of it.

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Finally got a surplus Yugo pistol grip for my AK. Starting to build a collection of magazines, left to right:
>Bulgarian Clear Polymer
>PMAG (came with the rifle)
>Korean Steel #1
>Korean Steel #2
>US Steel
>Surplus Eastern Block Steel (Hungarian or Romanian)
>Surplus Eastern Block Steel (Hungarian or Romanian)
>Izhmash Bakelite

Plan on getting Tula Bakelite or Russian Steel next. Also, not pictured, I have a Yugo type 3 bayonet.

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Bit steep isn't it?

>>32526008
I don't know what they usually go for but keep in mind they're no longer imported and that's not much more than a Wasr, which are still imported

>>32525918
No, you only get your money back if you filed for it within a certain time.

>>32525240
>>32525240
No AK that is safe to shoot will be at or under $550 unless you buy used.

You can build a mediocre AR for that, or buy a prebuilt bad one.

The AR has better irons, period. Faster and more precise.

The AR has cheaper/easier/more durable optics mounting options, as the pic rail is integral to the receiver and has no chance of moving or having been installed wrong.

7.62x39 is a better deer/hog round than 5.56 when comparing high end bonded softpoints, but its bonded softpoints cost considerably more on average. There are several good bonded softpoints for 5.56 in the 60cpr range whereas x39 starts at $1 per. No, the wolf/tula/barnaul softpoints do not expand reliably due to the thick bimetal jacket (this is true for all calibers). PPU makes an okay softpoint for x39 for ~80cpr, next cheapest is the Hornady Zmax/Vmax at ~$1.10/rd.

A 16" AR will be around a pound lighter for the base model and close to 2lbs lighter when factoring the steel siderail mount necessary to mount an optic to an AK. Assuming you dont tacticool either out.

A cheap AK will probably have the better trigger since so many companies are using the crapco g2. Its surprisingly good.

>>32525918
I'd just mess about myself, may even make a membrane system like the welrod given I only need the first couple shots to not deafen me until I can get away. Not sure how that would work in a piston system.

>>32526053
The language as stated is that any purchases done between the introduction of the bill (Oct 2015) and the passage of the bill will get the stamp refunded. That was a key provision, since the lobbyists who pushed it didn't want to shoot themselves in the foot by killing sales before it gets passed.

>>32526160
Poorly. DI is significantly quieter than simple blowback which is significantly quieter than piston.

>>32525798
Just buy one. The HPA isn't gonna pass, sorry.

And even if it does, you're only saving $200. What is more valuable to you, $200, or all that time with the suppressor? If it is the former you've got your priorities wrong.

>>32525591
I actually don't like the DTK-2 or 3 to be honest, I like smaller and more streamlined looking brakes

The SOCOM 5.56, standard 74s, Bulgy cones, A2, etc all appeal to me a lot, hence why I was looking at a FHMB instead

Plus I'm not concerned with compensating so much as I am flash hiding for this rifle

>>32526085

dont listen to this twink he's probably one of those fagolas that have stupid collectable watermarks on his overpriced lowers that look like dumb/gay '@s' or some trendy vinyl hipster fag malarkey

if you cant afford either then don't even get an AK or an AR, just get yourself a decent SKS and use the spare $100 on some golden tiger 7.62x39

it'll be the best scout rifle you'll own, and you won't have to buy magazines because you'll have ten round assault clips

>>32526274
200 bucks and an artificially inflated suppressor market. I console carry when in the car but want a fun project later on. At worst I don't get what I want and I'm back to what I always used and can't pretend I'm a Soviet APC driver in my econobox.

>>32526335
Thats the highest praise I've ever gotten. Your complete inability to even attempt to argue anything is quite touching.

Also, its illegal to hunt with FMJ ammo anywhere in the US, and Golden Tiger is FMJ. So gj on telling someone to break the law.

>>32526381
>its illegal to hunt with FMJ ammo anywhere in the US

Incorrect

This is only true for game animals on federal land, private property you can do whatever you want in most states

>>32526398
Just because you can doesn't mean you should or that it's a good idea.

>>32526398
No. Federal and state wildlife code is applicable everywhere but indian reservations, and they have their own laws.

>>32526411
The point is that it isn't illegal you fucking faggot

>>32526424
You can check state by state but I know for sure Florida has no regulations on private land, and I'm pretty sure some other states do it the same way

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Why is /akg/ so much more peaceful and nice compared to /arg/?

Like I've barely ever seen faggots in knee socks posting their shit here, while /arg/ is filled to the brim with it.

Is it the gun that does this to it's owner? Are AR owners naturally prone to faggotry? I just don't understand...

>>32526445
http://m.myfwc.com/hunting/regulations/taking-game/
>the use of nonexpanding (FMJ) ammunition is prohibited for the taking of deer
>no line of "lol do whatevet on your own land"
You're fucking wrong and retarded.

>>32526274
Were the HPA to pass, the bottom would drop out of the suppressor market. Demand for suppressors would fucktuple, which would ruin availability for a while, but once manufacturers starting meeting demand (plus all the new manufacturers that would spring up overnight joined in) the price for a metal tube with some baffles in it would go down significantly.

I mean it's already happening without the HPA. The Internet has made NFA more accessible and comprehensible and more and more people are getting into it. Plus everyone and their brother has started manufacturing suppressors because they realized it's an overinflated gold mine. The competition has already driven prices of a lot of the direct thread models down.

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>>32526473
>Are AR owners naturally prone to faggotry?

Yes. We have our share of fat faggots here though (Hi Nick)

>>32526475
>prohibited for the taking of deer
>taking of deer
>deer

Wow it's like you're actually fucking illiterate

Let me spoonfeed you so you don't (you) me again http://myfwc.com/hunting/by-species/wild-hog/

>On private property with landowner permission, wild pigs may be trapped and hunted year round using any legal to own rifle, shotgun, crossbow, bow or pistol. There is no size or bag limit, and you may harvest either sex. Also, no hunting license is required. A gun and light at night permit is not required to take wild hogs with a gun and light on private lands with landowner permission.

>>32526506
Premise was both deer and hog tho.

Cant shoot deer with the ammo you recommended.

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>>32526473
fuck off WEEB

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>>32526540
What are you still doing here?

>>32526506

this

literally fuck all hogs, they are the scum pork chops of the earth and slaughtering them and their families is morally acceptable on or off private land

hogs will kill your dogs and family if they get in your house guaranteed, fuck all pork chops

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>>32526561
I think you have the wrong person.

>>32526085
There's a hell of a lot of misinformation in this post.

>>32526539
>better deer/hog round

cyкa блядь

Yea deer require license here and still fall under the rules, I only read hog
But why would you want to hunt anything besides hog here anyways? It's like a legal way to genocide something

>>32526584
More shit to hunt, hogs aren't always available everywhere, not everybody has the requisite amounts of private land to circumvent the rules, it tastes better, etc.

>>32526583
Start refuting it then dickmunch.

SGAmmo has Golden Tiger 7.62 for 22¢/rd before shipping if you buy a full 1000 rd case

>>32526473
Brutally honest answer? Consumerism.

There's SO MUCH shit out there for ARs that it was only a matter of time before /arg/ became a giant mess of circlejerking, brand wars, and special snowflakism.

With AKs, there's significantly less variety. Most of /akg/ discussions about brands are usually just about what to avoid and why, which is typically a short discussion since the market is so bare in the states compared to that of the AR. On top of that, most of the "cool" stuff /akg/ gets off to is surplus of some sort, which leads to discussions about things like production variants, period accuracy for clone builds, etc. There's a lot of technological know-how in /akg/ for the simple reason that it came to people as a result of learning about the things the Soviet states did to their AKs over the years and why they did it in the first place.

If the AK market were to ever explode like it has for ARs, then /akg/ would become another general full of dickwaving over brand elitism (ever notice how the one consistently-annoying person in these threads is a guy who blew a ridiculous amount of cash on expensive Zenitco furniture for little tangible performance gain?). Luckily, it doesn't look like that will happen, and the AK community's "rifle is fine" mentality means it'll never reach the same level of operator dress-up faggotry that currently infests /arg/. We're too busy trying to get the Russians to send us their old shit anyway.

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>>32526486
you're right of course.

The process of getting the bill passed, put into effect, posting retail suppressors on shelves, and finally getting availability up will take a long ass time. All of those things have to happen before prices will START to come down. I'm no expert, but it could be 4-5 years before they get cheap.

My point is that the savings you are going to get with the HPA are nothing compared to the time you'll spend waiting. Yeah, you might save 400 dollars on a new suppressor. But you'll be waiting 5 years for that price, which comes out to 80 bucks a year.

It's dumb to wait for the HPA. >>32526363

>>32526719
I tend to side with what you're saying, but it's also out of principle for some people, or a desire to not willingly put their name on a list.

>>32526738
Well, if you're going to SBR a gun anyway, you're gonna do the trust thing regardless, so in that case I don't see any reason to wait for the HPA. If it was just for a standalone funsies suppressor, then maybe it might be worth waiting a bit.

>>32523254
Maybe he needs dem bullet buttons

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>>32522654
I have a question Im hoping you can help me with; Whats the cheapest I will likely find a "pre-ban" AK in the US?

>>32523730
not him but i often post from my phone (it has a camera) then dl from here to my PC.

>>32526796
Since the "ban" was over in 2000 or whatever, everything is "pre"(post)ban.

>>32526796
about tree fiddy

>>32526719
Like I said, it's for a project to home brew something and I'm arguably more effective in the rare instance I would need to use a firearm in a vehicle by simply sticking to a pistol. I'm not going to wait for commercial shit because my desire for titanimeme everything isn't important to me at all.

I'm going to SBR any AK pistol I get so it's not a matter of names on a registry it's a matter of curiosity and I can wait for that. Also trusts involve lawyers and such so until I get other things in order it wouldn't be worth it quite yet

>>32526836
not in Connecticut. All AKs and clones are illegal unless they are pre-ban (like the 1991 ban I think). Cheapest way to get an AR here seems to be well over $1000 for a preban. Hoping I can find an AK cheaper

>>32526859
You might get lucky, since there's so much more of a market for ARs. Your best bet is to keep your eyes on Armslist. I'm talking about checking at least twice a day.

>>32526843
>trusts involve lawyers
Not really. I got my trust for something like $120 from SilencerShop. Typed my info into their site, printed it out, notarized it, done. No lawyers. I have a bunch of SBR's and suppressors on there.

>>32526902
What are some common old AKs? I seem to remember references to WASRs way back in the day. Any others? Any that were made exclusively or mostly before or after that are more or less likely to be pre-ban?

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>>32526940
I really couldn't tell you. I'd just recommend searching Armslist for AKs of any kind on the regular. Sorry.

>>32526473
Because /arg/ browsers pump thousands of dollars into single rifles that they take shooting twice a year
AKs don't really require or accept nearly as much grandeur, and the fact that the AK market is dangerous ground compared to the AR market makes AK users intrinsically more likely to want to help people who aren't sure what to get, while in /arg/ if you ask what to get it just starts eight different people shilling twelve different brands to you
Now, as to why /arg/ fags post in almost every /akg/ thread bragging about superior expensive AR, I'm not sure. Has to be an ego thing, considering how desperate they are to make sure everyone knows AKs are cheap commie rifles while their tacticool AR with fifteen pounds of flashlights is way better

>>32526751

>I don't see any reason to wait for the HPA

HPA won't pass in 2017. I know you guys like to think that Trump is going to make shit magically happen but the HPA has both houses to go through and it'll get chopped to shit before proceeding to a vote, at which point the minority leaders will hard stall any progress. If you think they were just sleeping on the shit you obviously know nothing about your enemy. They take their orders from the top, the big money anti-gun spenders (read: campaign donors) to fuck conservatives as hard as possible following Trump's victory. Like it or not, gun freedoms are almost exclusively a right wing issue in the US.

>but liberals are buying guns too!

Reactionary bullshit. Most of them aren't. Those that are tend to do it for shock value facebook posts and believe that all conservatives should be forcefully disarmed and only non-whites and lgbtqialmnopayyyylmaos+ people should be armed. You know, so they can combat all of those right wing death squads that are throwing gays into mass graves all over the US because it's Trump's America now.

>>32527154
gun owning liberal here. people (you) need to stop thinking so black and white. Im a survivalist and gun owner, im also a socialist, or at least a social democrat. I feel guns are important to defend against an oppressive government as well as hunting and defense. I just happen to think that our government should also commit more resources to socialized medicine and beyond 12th grade education. i think minimum wage should be increased to at least $10/hr, I also think BLM is a terrorist organization, and arrirmative action needs to be scaled back. I also doubt that gay couples should be able to adopt kids. dont believe in god either

Just because Im a liberal doesnt mean I take the default liberal position on literally everything

>>32527218
Sorry but when the majority represents your party its hard to stand up and be the minority.

>>32527255
I think its pretty obvious most democrats are not happy with the democratic party. Bernie Sanders is a great example of a far left politician who was/is basically pro-gun. Only when hillary tried to use his stance on guns against him did he start to even say the slightest anti-gun remarks. he should have held his ground and i think his spinelessness in this regard may have been a significant reason he lost. he also took a hit from blm. i really feel most democrats who actually knew about him preferred him over hillary

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Got some new wood on my 2016 WASR.

>>32527218

I get what you're saying but my post wasn't really referencing the voters. The average non-coast (not located in the PNW/california or NE liberal areas) left winger is about as moderate as their right wing counterparts outside of the universities, which are a breeding ground for progressive extremism.

Where the left's moneyed elite see the most success is at the state level, obviously, spending money to buy state legislatures and governors. For the most part they can effectively ignore moderates until the presidential election, at which point they either appeal (8 years of obama) or double down (clinton 2016).

>>32527321

>he also took a hit from blm
>actually participated in the civil rights movement

Just how fucking extreme do you have to be to NOT be considered an enemy of blm?

>>32527154
You're probably one of those cucks that voted for Gary Johnson.

> "hurr durr trump will never win"

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>>32528033

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>>32528033
im gonna get u on sunday

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>>32528102
Dont bring your doggo ive seen what he does to cats.

>>32527958

Voted for Trump. Just trying to be realistic. If I'm wrong we get no-stamp no-wait suppressors this year anyway.

>>32528033
I don't mind shit posters but you are 100% pure scum. I hope you rot for what you did to your cat

>>32528325
What did he do to his cat?

>>32528369
He killed his cat for sure, he admitted to it, and possibly gave his dog anti freeze

>>32528033
it's always really amusing to me when /arg/ is so desperate to circlejerk over their never-shot rifles that they shit up other threads, while i've never seen an /akg/ shitposter in /arg/
also tripfag containment

>>32528388
"AKs are ugly and for stupid poorfags, haha!" yells the /arg/ tripfag as he pours antifreeze into his pets' water bowls like a psychopath.

>>32528391
We don't really have too many bad trips in here besides Nick and Leon. Daewoo is an idiot but he's alright

Riley Defense AKs are pretty fuckin' cheap

Are they shit?

>>32528415
Leon only really posts in /arg/ anymore, where he is even more obnoxious than he was here

>>32528434
They're IO, avoid

>>32528434
They are IO

>>32528434
They're literally rebranded IO. IO becomes infamous so quickly that they set up sockpuppet companies to keep distributing their rifle-shaped grenades.

On that note, does anyone know anything about James River? I can find next to nothing about them.

>>32528465
>>32528455
>>32528454
Thanks for that, but also fuck my shit up.

Also wondering about James River, heard they're pretty good a while back but I think they only did custom orders back then.

As far as WASRs (I'm about to settle for one although the lack of dimples triggers me), are most on gunbroker fine? Should I be paying attention to certain features?

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>>32528415
I am quite dumb.

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Question.

I'm letting my /vg/ bullshit spill over, but the AK in Grand Theft Auto 5 is triggering me because I can't figure out what model it is supposed to be.

It has a Chinese type folding stock with black bakelite panels, Tapco fucking plastic railed handguard, 90-degree gas block, full hood on the front sight and a muzzle nut.

So is it Chinese or is it a frankengun? I can't remember if the Chinese had 90-degree blocks.

>>32528723
What is the black mat you always take pictures on?

>>32528491
There was a brief period of years were there was an issue with their barrels if I remember correctly. Something like 2008-2011. Someone on here knows the exact years.

>>32528729
Sounds like a proper frankengun.

>>32527336
where did u source it from anon?
me>>32522788

Anyone here reload for their AK? I wanna reload 100 grain bullets for 7.62x39 but I honestly don't know how it will cycle yet. Are there any AKs with built in adjustable gas tubes?

>>32528733
Just a cheap Midway shooting mat, I keep it on the floor so I don't scrape up the wood when I'm doing shit

>>32528729
It's a Type 56-2, they were produced with both slanted and 90-degree gas blocks

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Wood or polymer?

Quick question. Im still new to aks and Im having a little "problem" with my slr. When I pull the charging handle all the way back and let it fly forward on its own it does fine but if i don't let it go all the way back or let it go slower it doesn't feed properly. Is this a normal thing.

heres a vid I found with the same exact issue: https://youtu.be/WHz2HtEjDaI?t=1m50s

>>32529032
That's normal. The intended manual of arms for an AK is to let the charging handle fly forward without guidance.
If it's sticking open when you slowly guide it forward that usually has to do with the hammer. SLRs come with pretty mediocre triggers, if you get a Bulgarian surplus trigger group or some other replacement trigger it should fix it

>>32529032
For just about any semiautomatic gun, you want to let the action return under its own power and not ride it. It's meant to function on its own force.

On a related AK note, most civilian AKs have a slightly larger than milspec FCG which can cause that slight hang up if you release it slowly.

>>32528804
Leddit user topgunebay had Soviet laminate for $80 (it was on sale)

>>32529032
Yea, before I swapped my trigger on the slr104, I had the "custom bolt hold open feature." Those stock triggers are quite shit. It didn't reset sometimes while shooting.

>>32529229
He goes by treyward86 on files

>>32529264
Treny is a faggot

Someone posted in his thread about his bizon mags and twice he went into an autistic rampage about how there's no discussion in marketplace threads

Not doing business with him simply because of that

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>>32529264
>>32529302
Vincent

>>32529371
Still don't like him

Hell I even tried to help him in the thread and he all caps sperged out on me

>>32529386
That's funny, I've talked with him a bit on a different platform and he seemed like a decent fellow. Also he has some #superrares like a 9x19 Bizon mag and prototype quadstack

>>32529371
Ive ordered mags through him twice good guy imo.

>>32529302
Read the go dam rules, mods on there will delete your thread for posting in it. Pm all questions.

>>32529454
Yea, he sold a plum polyamide or whatever the fuck they're called just recently

If I was into rares a lot I might give him the benefit of the doubt but after my first impression, eeeeh

>>32529478
Yea I understand, especially with Nalioth, he just went from 0-turboautist real quick

Not like I have the money to get anything from him anyways, was just my one experience with him that he put me off with

>>32522654
Besides knowing a slav, where do you guys buy bakes?

>>32529559
What kind of prices you thinking?

>>32529497
Yes you understand the rules of keeping the Marketplace running smooth, yet you ignore them and bitch about it anyways?

>>32529497
I'm sure he was trying to keep his own thread from getting nuked. Sounds like you're the fag.

>>32529613
This is the equivalent of shooting a kid in the face for trying to nick some candy rather than just taking the candy back

I wouldn't mind if he would have kept it at "Please do not discuss things in the market place", I was on his side even

He left like two full paragraphs of all caps in the thread which is an obvious overreaction to one person asking a question

>>32529588
I don't know the price ranges for bakes. I assume they're more expensive than steel mags because of their relative rarity

>>32529750
>relative rarity

ehehehehehe

>>32529754
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, IIRC the 7.62x39 versions were only made by Russia and aren't currently in production.
I know that 5.45 bakes are going to be much more common due to them being the standard mag of the AK-74.

Or maybe I'm dead wrong.

>>32529264
>>32529229
thanks

>>32526719
The largest problem will be how ATF handles getting them all off the NFA, like wtf am I supposed to do as a dealer that has all of these form 3's and a separate NFA items logbook, and ATF could easily say some shit like "the law going into affect would jeopardize current investigations" or something.

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>>32529813
Someone get this man the picture of a road made out of surplus mags

>yfw they're like a dollar in russia

>>32529844
>A dollar in russia
And SKS's are still $99 in syrupland
I saw the pic, but that doesn't help me because I'm not in Russia, mor planning to go there anytime soon.

>>32529884
Then your next step is to find a slav or find someone who knows a slav

If you can't do those Legion and AKFiles have the best prices you can find for stateside mags

>>32529909
what about circle10 website?

>>32529909
very limited on legion arms for wasr furniture

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>>32529844

>slavaweboo shit
>'b-but they're cheap in Russia!

guess what cump mcfucko, this aint no commie shithole. this here is the land of liberty and capitalist gains and us collectorfags have the shit you want for the cheapest price in town. we are the dealers and you are the consumer, now give us your fucking money like a good little goy and we can forgive your transgressions

or you know, we can just sell all our east german bakelites to fudds for more than what we'll get out of you..........

>>32529966
Everything but their range plums for 5.45 are overpriced as shit

>those 20 round plums tho

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>>32529909
>>32530039
>>32529844
Why are they ~$40? Is it import/export laws/customs or just pic related?

>>32530099
>buy something from russia for 5 dollars
>resell at highest price dumb goys will spend

>>32530102
I remember hearing about how buying from slavs still had a markup because they were breaking russian export laws.

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>>32530129
Yea you're still paying a markup, but compare

>>32530150
Does this cause any issues with ITAR? Or does it not count because it's an import?

>>32530260
>>32530150
One would assume it's legal because you're posting about it, but one guy posted an unregistered SBR on this board and got raided so foolishness isn't out of the question.

>>32530260
You buy less than $100 in wholesale for personal use to not break any laws, the ATF has an easy to find list of rules on it

>>32530281
Did he actually get raided? I saw someone post them making one the other day but never saw anything come of it

>>32530313
I dunno, supposedly he got raided, but no evidence proving it.

>>32530348
I doubt it

Plausible deniability, whether they even had enough info to find him, if they cared enough to go get him, etc

>>32530367
>OP stops replying to the thread because he got bored
>omg guys OP got v&
Because the ATF and the FBI have rapid response units of footlockers ready for immediate dispatch anywhere in the country to fuck up people posting pictures of SBRs that may or may not be legal

>>32530399
>footlockers
Doorkickers

>>32530367
There's a few points of evidence you could get from an image besides an IP address, such as tracing the serial number, seeing if geotagging was left on (or finding other clues in the metadata, such as camera model and serial number).

>>32530399
>>32530410
This is true too

There's no evidence OP didn't have an SBR lower and a sig brace just to do this for (you)s

>>32530424
4chan automatically deletes metadata on images now

>>32525288
Exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhzb5hkggSI

>>32529302
>>32529386
Lol I saw that thread before the non-relevant posts were removed. All the post were breaking marketplace rules. One retard was asking how this was legal, one retard was asking what they were for, and another retard was trying to throw their 2 cents in. Which retard were you?

>>32530623
Jesus christ

>>32529302
Yeah I dont plan to do business with him in the future either. I ordered a few plums off of him and i was a day late on the payment, i had a close friend die in a car wreck and wasnt on the files for a while. I come back to find he is threatening to leave me negative feedback and once i got my plums and left him some positive feedback he took like two weeks to respond. From his bizon thread i get the impression he is a try-hard autistic faggot who takes himself way too seriously.

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>>32522810
While I won't recommend buying Magpul mags only, I honestly like them over steel surplus. I'm willing to bet nobody has had a magazine failure with Magpuls. Yes they are ugly, but they fucking work.

For 7.62:
Bakelite>Magpul>aluminum waffle>steel surplus>tapco/promag/uspalm

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>>32528033
Please die faggot

>>32530833
more like
Bakelite>steel>tapco>meme collectors mag>mapgul/promag/uspalm

>>32525755
So would a Zastava NPAP, the thumbhole version for 540 used be a bad buy?

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Fucking ATF and GCA needs to be abolished.

>>32526796

looks like an arabian /k/ meetup

>>32530903
If the ATF were abolished the powers would go back to the IRS like they were pre-nixon

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>>32530889
Check for single stack bolt.

>>32530869
Are you retarded? How are tapcos over magpuls? Lol, I've had so many problems with crapcos.

>>32530986
Someone doesn't understand what a "greater than" sign is.

>>32525255

>A2 lower and birdcage

what the fuck

>>32528814
I am considering reloading 7.62x39mm but am only at the stage of researching it.

I don't know of any adjustable gas blocks for AKs.

You could probably load 100gr bullets in 7.62x39. Barnes makes (used to make?) a 108gr .310" diameter spitzer solid in their reduced ricochet/low penetration (sintered copper, in other words) line, and I have read that those could be loaded to cycle fine.

One issue with reloading for 7.62x39mm is that Boxer-primed brass isn't easy to get and is spendy when you find it. Though there are people on Youtube who have experimented with removing the tiny wire anvils from Boxer type large rifle magnum primers and using Krazy-Glue to fasten them into the Berdan primer pockets of Russian commercial 7.62x39mm, then loading with God only knows what powder, and gas checked cast bullets, but that's getting a little bit Mad Max for my tastes.

Another is that getting decent velocities and functioning the gas system to cycle properly requires a rather narrow burning range of powders. The short list is Accurate 1680 (which is old Winchester 680) and Alliant Reloder 7. Now, I have heard of people getting rifles to function with powders burning as slow as IMR3031 or even BLC(2) but velocities will be low, even with compressed loads of either of those. The pressures just don't build fast enough to get velocities comparable to milspec or commercial out of the AK's stubby little 16" barrel with that great big gas port.

>>32531046
Not that guy, but I think you're the one with the issue, anon...

>>32528814
May I ask why? It'll lave an even lower BC than the low BC of 123 grain, it'll have a lower SD, too.

>>32526675
>this
/arg/ is a gay shit feast in part to the gucci rifle meme, people who pour money into a rifle because they are shitty at shooting instead of spending the money on ammo and getting better. If you cant shoot decently with irons and a factory trigger you should spend money on ammo not some 400$ trigger. If you are already a decent shot upgrades will help but they wont turn a crap shot into a crack shot.

>>32530903

is that the finnish version of the insas

>>32528947
Really. I didn't know that.

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First wasr, 5th AK, these guns are kinda ugly with the stock wood

>>32531419
I wish I didn't have autism. I was thinking about getting an MPi clone from Atlantic, but it had an optics rail. I don't like AKMN pattern rifles. I'm an AKM purist.

>>32531447
I know what you mean, I have autism attacks everytime I realize it doesn't have mag dimples

>>32528814
you could pull bullets from cheap steel cased then change the powder load accordingly and seat what projectile you want. wouldnt trust this as much for pure accuracy but for hunting it should be fine.

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>>32530969
>IRS
Also should be abolished. Along with every other alphabet soup agency.

>>32529020
Wood if you are going to use primarily steel mags, polymer for bakes.

>>32530833
the gen2 ones are pretty good wouldnt reccomend the gen1 ak pmags because of the plastic locking lug. Other than that the gen1s that came with my wasr feed fine and lock up pretty well. They are still ugly though.

>>32529302
I've tried ordering mags from him twice before. I live in the same city and he was really hard to get a pickup set up with, so I offered to just have him ship them to me. Both times he just never responded once I said "ok I'll take these" and I just don't feel like bothering a third time.

Other Files users might have the patience for that shit but I don't.

>>32531288I thought he was replying to >>32530833
My bad

tfw still no Saigas

>>32523622
Faggot

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Taking my slr to the snow tomorrow.

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>bulgy zigzag in two days

>>32532185
Even if the EO was undone tommorrow, it would still be 6+ months before they hit shelves again.
>Be patient /k/omrade, and hopefully it will be better by this time next year (2018)

Your never going to sell that arsenal furniture set for 100$
> i sold mine for 60$

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>>32532414
Yours didn't have the stock though

>cunt

>>32532425
Mine was stock and hand guards, no grip tho.

>>32532432
It was? Woops

I'm really amazed at the amount of attention it gets from fucking window shoppers though, I've literally been asked for pictures a dozen and a half times with no response after I send the pictures

I did almost trade it for a 30 round SA mag for my FAL but that fell through too

I'll just keep dropping the price till someone finally takes it

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>>32532412
Perhaps it's for the better (for me, at least). I guess I could spend the money on other things.

I still want my AK-74M clone, though... Someday.

On another note, maybe someday we'll get M21s.

>>32532445
Ya i started at 75$ and some guy offered 60$ and said fuck it . I have some tapco mags and other shit mags that i cant even give away. Tho 74 mags sell within hours if priced right.

>>32532460
Where is the rear sight ....

>>32532467
I doubt I could give away most of the shit I want gone, I can't even get a fucking offer on it begging to get rid of it

>>32522727
Kill yourself, you fucking idiot. You ruin the life of threads.

>>32532483
Try the BST threads and offer the mags as kits for cuck states

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>>32529813
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Yo fellas, I want to buy a draco pistol and SBR it. How much would it cost to have a stock smith'd on you think?

so are SLR-104's the best way to go if you're looking for an ak74?

>>32532623
My friend did just that. If i remember right, its just a shitty plate tack welded on the back. so not much

>>32527370

blank gun yuck.

>>32532616
>A mounted brown coat with the (KPP) Klinton Pelotzi Poleizen patrols the gun free streets of L.A. circa 2007 Source: Wikipedia.com/worldwarthree/newcalifornianreich

>>32532625

always have been.

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>>32532625
Bulgy is good, but go Russian always if you are of the means.

>>32532627
Good, you've given me some hope. Might not go the draco route. Now that I make a bit more money these days I think ill just hunt gunbroker a while for an Arsenal.

>>32525177
Why the fuck do you want a .22 AK?

New thread

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