/brg/ BATTLE RIFLE GENERAL

>>32472999
Your raifu a shit.

What the fuck am I looking at?

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>>32473017
The Heavy Count-Assault Rifle. A M1918 BAR derivative. Extremely accurate and can eat any 30-06, Can do alot more than .308 guns with pretty cheap ammo.

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>>32473017
>>32473027
And can use all surplus 20 round BAR magazine as well as newly made 30 round OOW magazines.

But it is still like a 12 pound rifle. Plus 30-06 is heavy to.

The only answer right now is to get swole af.

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>>32472999
I think it's fine just the way it is.

>>32472999
Cuz poorfags on /k/ cant afford to shoot big boolits

>>32473188
Poast MOAR

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>>32473746

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>>32473972

>>32473939
Showed that to my father, he's laughing his eyeballs off, we kill these with 22s.
That's some ignorant caliber to hunt.

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>>32473980

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>>32473995
You weren't killing those 200lbs pigs at 450 yards with a .22 smart ass. Though I did take this one with my Tavor at 75yards.

>>32473995
You hunt javelinas with .22 lr??

You know why they have that name? Because they were the animal you hunted with javelins!


.22 lr is WAY too small.

>30-06 lording over you

>>32473746
>>32473939
>>32473961
>>32473972
>>32473980
>>32473997

There you go buddy

>HCAR

Do you think Browning would like this monstrosity?

>>32474010
>>32474019
I live in Brazil, we hunt them at night with nothing but flashlight.
.22 is enough for a shot in the head and not spoiling any of the meat, I understand what you guys meant though, it's more for sport and challenge than actual feeding.
Bad thing around here is not the bears though, we have the equivalent of your mountain lion and also panthers in general, on my family property there's a huge population of them and also a type of wolf.
These "javelinas" you say are called the same name around here "Javali" but we also call them "queixada" because of the noise they make with their teeth. They go around in packs of 30+ here.
Can't show you photos, pictures or dates, if any police whatsoever catch you with anything of the sort around here you'll be grounded for a lot of time, there's no hunting season here.
Guns are also forbidden, so I'm also jelly on yours.

>>32472999
>Why do the strongest rifles have the weakest generals?
More like why do the strongest rifles have the gayest owners

>>32474072
I think he would wonder why they use full size M1918 BAR internals, and not the previously shortened M1919 Colt Monitor which was 13 pounds nearly 90 years ago!

If they applied the modern materials and style to a Colt Monitor, they'd weigh like 10 pounds.

Wish I could fool people on the distribution centers and buy guns piece by piece abroad and assemble it at home. They only sell garbage weapons here in the country and it's mostly illegal so only law enforcement would be able to buy it.
For example, only a drug dealer in the favelas can have a barret to put down a chopper or an ak47 to mean business. Only cops and bandits have guns here, and they're mostly both the bad guys.

>>32473997
post your sisters butt

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Looks like a Stgw 57.

SCAR is four letters, BAR is only three letters. Therefore, SCAR > BAR.

Checkmate, atheists.

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FAL a best.

>>32472999
>BAR with AR furniture
>Weight problem

Gee, I wonder why that might fucking be?

It's almost as if it's an old piece of shit LMG not meant to be carried like your standard rifle.

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>>32474075
>>32473995

I've got an extra pair of German G1 stamped handguards laying around. What is a fair price for them? Apex sells the exact ones I've got for $54 plus shipping but Apex is also pretty expensive. What would be a realistic price to ask?

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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/603286533

Thinking of getting one of these and a DSA receiver. I heard IMBEL FAL's are made in Belgium not Brazil. Is this true?

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>>32474709
Thats a lie. IMBEL is Brazil's state owned arms manufacturer iirc, they make their own FALs on license.

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poorfag ar10s here we go

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mfw utg pro handguard

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The Rogers Super Stock is nice though.

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I like the forward assist.

Does anyone have a picture of an FAL with a wood handguard + buttstock but a SAW grip?

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>>32475812
Like this but a SAW grip.

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>>32475219
Looks nice and clean amigo. Here's my sig716DMR

>>32476412
It's right around 8 pounds too which is nice.

I think the BCG is phosphate/chrome lined. Weird because they don't even advertise anything other than NiB or nitride BCGs.

Hopefully I'll be able to get a nitride BCG, phosphate is not really super resilient against rust in my experience.

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Picked up HSGI battle belt and a few more tacos. Swap out of the X2RP's I had on the plate carrier, put the singles on, put my inner belt on and fuck.

The inner belt fits me with a pair of pants on, but not with the HSGI belt. Thats fine, didnt match the wolf grey color scheme im going for.

Wanted to give it a go walking around with armor and 180 rounds of .308 under my hardshell, see how it feels, such is life.

>>32473997
MOAR of HER

>>32474032
Does HCARfag own any original BAR magazines, and can they be modified to engage the HCAR's BHO?

>>32474075
Didn't read and nobody cares what you think

>>32477348
BUMPING THIS.
>>32473997

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>>32478680
>Neither the girl or the rifle is that hot

>>32478704
Could that AR be modified easily to shoot 30-06?

>>32478911
You could just load the cartridges super weak

>>32478704
Nor is she

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>>32479142
What do you prefer?

>got 4 fal mags for 35 shipped today

Is there a thing for collecting FAL magazines like there is AK mags? I kinda want a SA 30 but I only know where one is. Are they even worth the money?

>>32478911
Got two one is in 300-mag, and the other is in 338-Lapua. The Noreen was the first I think but my spelling might be wrong.

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>>32479812
>.338 Lapua
Should get it rebarrelled to .300 or .338 Norma when the lapua is shot out IMHO

>>32473997
That belt holster is now the worst thigh holster

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I guess i can post here now guys. Coming from AKG but just got an ar10 yesterday.

>>32479812
You didn't answer the question.

How heavy are they though?

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Opinions on parkerizing vs. paint for aesthetics?

>>32480512
>your charging handles face when you gotta tactical one hand load

>>32480672
Sadly the face of a charging handle that sat in a gun store just a little too long

>>32480639
Paint is for metal and plastic, not for wood really. Can paint the rest though, strip it if you dont like

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>>32480639
park looks the best on FALs

>>32480639
Parkerizing is shiny. Very rough though.

Someone I know is selling a Hesse CETME clone, a lot of people on the Internet say they're junk, but it's 600 dollars, is it worth visually inspecting the quality? If so what do I need to look for (too loose tolerances) I've built a couple ARs and have experience with AKs, will I be able to inspect it and know if it's safe to fire?

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Finally got around to taking pics of the cetme armorer's kit.

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Here's some numbers on the front.

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Here's I think a manual, a parts list/catalog thing, and the actually list of what the kit comes from apex. Also, a coaster and stickers.

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Better pic of the red booklet.

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Now, on to the kit itself. Here's what's on top.

>>32481087
CMP gun?

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Top comes out.

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And ta-da. Here's the inside.

>>32482411
Hesse is in the same boat as a lot of other older cetme/g3 clones in that, their low quality and their problems are exacerbated by their age but collectors like them because their old. I'd say get it as it is probably worth more than the $600 he wants for it but if you want a good shooter you may be better off getting a c308 that new, hasn't had age chip away at it, and is done by a company you can actually sent your rifle to should problems come up. Just my two cents.

>>32473997
fucking gross lol

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>>32484809
yeah

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Here's everything it comes with. Annoyingly, doesn't actually come with everything they said it would like the 5 rounders mag, but hey, at least the expensive stuff is here right?
>pt1

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>pt2

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I have no idea what the string is for.

>>32484888
where should I look for signs or wear? Roller locking mechanism? mainspring? barrel? am I forgetting anything

And there you go /k/ommandos . Any questions, just ask.

>>32474418
Anyway to get one in the us?

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>>32485980
Why? They look ugly as sin

>>32485980
Yes, they are circa $4k iirc
And you should be ashamed for liking the look.

>>32473995
I've hunted pigs with a .30 cal air rifle, less power than a .22lr

>>32486614
I've hunted squirrels with 12ga foster slugs. My GFs brother just wanted the tails for flys

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Anyone recommend some good fal mags? Are the 30 rounders worth it?

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>>32486255
>>32486440
What are you guys? Faggots?

It's the rolls Royce of battle rifles.

why are there no ar10 lowers for G3 mags.

>>32487169
The weight throws the balance off. Prefer 20/25.

>>32487240
It's a polished turd

>>32487254
There were, no demand.

>>32474086
because gays have patrician taste

>>32487266
>It's a polished turd
it's Swiss engineering, you're the only turd here

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>>32487266
>turd

That's how I spot a noguns or a sour grape kinda of guy.

>>32474443
Are you in a dorm?

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>>32487296
Swiss like sheet metal rifles and high bore axis pistols, could care less about you feels about the ugly shit rifles.

>>32487307
That's me, no guns poorfag who can't afford a rifle so I'm.... Oh wait, I have nice rifle, thank goodness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAdSt3PPHX8

Pretty sure Hickok already covered this.

I loved the B.A.R. as a kid, but by the time I had the money for it the Ohio Ordnance semi-auto version cost nearly a grand more than what the FN SCAR 17S did at the time.

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>>32487791

huhum

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Which one of you FAL fucks was in Osceola

>>32488591
I dont see any desirable in that picture except for maybe something in the shelves on the upper left.

>>32488651

what a fucking faggot

>>32488670
Because I dont like some really old gun, a meh old gun with what appears to be budget as fuck optic and mount?

>>32488651
>Not liking Swiss Arms rifles

Seriously? They're like high class AK's.

>>32488711
>slavshit
>class
yeah no. Swizterland makes some things poignantly sweet. Firearms are not one of them. This includes brugger and thomet. Austria on the other hand.....

>>32488747
HK fag detected

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>>32488747

well, as a Swiss soldier, i can tell you that you have no idea of what you're talking about.. all the way from the K11 to the stgw90, our rifles are extremely accurate, reliable, durable and well thought out.. but if you only care about how a gun looks, it just means your a fag that's ok you know

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>>32488833
Still off the mark.

>>32487240
The only people who call it that are the ones who can't own any other battle rifle.

>>32488848
Heavy as fuck, poor modularity, etc.
I'm not saying that they aren't decent rifles, but there are better options out there.

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>>32488886

>heavy

no more than a 416

>poor modularity

come on man

>>32488848
>well thought out
>9 pound 5.56 rifle

>>32489011

ho my god you can't lift a fucking gun? go back to /mlp/ m8

>>32489098
I'm sure that's the only reason rifle weight matters.

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>>32489098
Modern .308s weigh less
>The swiss have engineered the rifle to be well thought out
hahahaha

The swiss military is a fucking joke, the airforce keeps bankers house.
>The swiss anything, keeping bankers house, whodathunkit

>>32489172
>That pic

Wat.

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soon....

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Any AR10 owners help out a new ar10 owner with a question?

Pic related

>>32489697
and the question is....

>>32489697

shoot

>>32489718
Just wondering about the bolt, it doesnt cam in and out freely like my MCX. Im wondering if its a DI thing since the MCX is a piston gun or an AR10 thing. The gun still functions fine, the first 140 rounds today without issue, its just i have to use my fingers to cam it instead of it doing it freely. Did it out of the box, did it after i cleaned it and lubed it, and it still does it after being fired today

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>>32474443
>>32474811
havent seen that thing in a while

>>32484836
>>32484995
>>32485088
>>32484799
>>32484752
neat thanks

>>32487169
numrich any surplus ones

>>32489697
that railguard is uggo

>>32489763

>it doesnt cam in

It doesn't go all the way into battery? What bolt/BCG are you using? You might have to break it down and check it out thoroughly.

>>32489826
It cams it just seems stiffer than it should be

>>32489763
Hrmm. Could be a few possibilities.
Who made the BCG?

>>32489839

May be your barrel, check out how smooth the feed ramps are. Might just have to lube it up and break it in some more.

>>32489839
it just sounds like its still breaking in. if it functions without issue, i wouldnt worry too much about it.

>>32489852
Armalite I believe unless theyre putting someone elses in their rifles
>>32489856
Its with the BCG out of the rifle really, no problems with basic function. Im just worried about unnecessary wear.
>>32489862
Kind of what i was hoping to hear, didnt seem major but figured id ask anyways.

Thanks anons ^^

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Found a Norinco SKS at a pawn shop for $320 with all matching serials.. had a scope mount on it (with a likely shit 4x scope on it) that goes over the original dust cover but doesn't do anything permanent to it. Just replaces the rear pin and has some set screws in the back.

Internals look better than most SKS's I've seen, barrel looks good. Talked them down to fucking $260. How in the hell? Is there something else I'm missing here that could be wrong with it?

>>32490234
Worse that can happen is you re-sell for 400 if it doesnt work

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>>32490278
My exact intentions. I sold a bubba'd one to a guy for $475 back when I still lived in MD which was in shit condition. I could pull $400 for this one easy. Let me take some pics.

It also has an additional 4" of wood added to the stock (which is actually added quite nicely aside from the pattern difference, but it's too long for me). Guess some tall motherfucker owned it before.

I might get a new stock if not, but what's the chance of me being able to remove that extension (saw it off) and just get a replacement metal rear plate so I can keep the serial-matching stock?

>>32490326
You could probably just sell it for 400 as is

>>32490457
Well I don't necessarily want to sell it if it shoots well. I'm going to take it to the range as is and see how it does. If it does well I'm keeping it.

Ptr91 or Springfield m1a for first .308?

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>>32490597
PTR.

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>>32490597
FAL

>>32490628
How do I get one for ~$1k?

>>32490645
You can get a Century one for about that price

As long as you're ok with a Century one

>>32490645
Gunbroker, falfiles

>>32490660
Is DSA shit?

>>32490656
Is Century being shit a meme?

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>>32474443
Modified office computer master race. Why do you have the side cover off, shitty cooling?

>>32490689
>Is DSA shit?
They're ok, overpriced because they have a monopoly. You're paying more for "new" condition basically. You can find dsa for cheaper on gb too but make sure they're not the voyagers.

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>>32474443
>that bed

MY NIGGA

>>32490689
It's half true, half not.

You can also get lucky with some used stuff in that price range

>got an Stg58 on a DSA for 1300

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>>32490597
PTR

>>32488695
>Because I dont like some really old gun, a meh old gun

How many cocks can you suck before the MG42 is unappealing to own?

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>>32490597
PTR

>>32490731
0
sold old kraut gun doesnt do anything for me.
Some of its children do.
I am not an old school conservationist.

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>>32490457
>>32490234
>>32490278
Here's a quick shitty pic from my phone before I take some nice ones at some point. Need to get a new dust cover pin; whats in there now is just what the scope mount uses.

You can see the stock extension I was talking about.

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>>32490984
That's actually pretty nicely done but looks super weird.

>>32491066
Yeah you can't even feel where the extension meets the stock. It's super smooth. But it does look weird and it makes it way too long. Like I was saying, maybe I'll be able to chop it and put a butt plate on so I can save the matching serial stock.

>>32489098
>making fun of someone wanting a lighter rifle

fucking confirmed for not being a soldier

either that or you were a desk jockey the entire time

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>>32491394
That's why you get a rifle that's a full pound lighter :^)

>>32489763
Do you mean you need some effort to push the bolt in and out of the BCG? That's normal for direct impingement. It relies on the seal between the bolt and BCG to make the expanding gases work the action. For initial break-in make sure to lube the BCG more than normal. Also make sure to clean out the copper from the barrel after each range trip for the first 2-3 trips or 200 rounds, which ever comes first.

>>32491603
This is actually exactly what i was wondering, thanks anon. My piston carrier on the MCX doesnt do it and thats about the closest to an AR ive ever owned

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>>32474811

>>32486890
>>>32486614
>I've hunted squirrels with 12ga foster slugs. My GFs brother just wanted the tails for flys
why do squirrel tails have to do with flies?

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Does anyone have any experience with the Century Arms C308? Is it a decent G3 clone? How much of it is built from surplus parts? If the chamber is built from surplus parts, does it have the headspace of a 7.62 rifle, or does it actually have the headspace of a .308 rifle?

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>>32492240
Don't, it's a horrible idea. It's one of the only things that keeps "watch out, it might explode" in the group of warnings you'd give a potential Century buyer.

>>32492240
It's a mix of cetme and 91 parts with pretty favorable reviews and can be had for $600.
That's it really.

>>32474443
I had that same IKEA loft bed in college. Huh.

>>32492240
just going off your post you dont have the knowledge base to be considering a century

headspace doesnt determine your fucking caliber, the barrel itself does, jesus christ almighty

the early ones had shaved bolts to headspace properly because century decided instead of using the proper rollers on the bolt we're just going to file shit out so that it fucking works, which is retarded

i wouldnt shoot one without having a very very thorough look through every part

spend the extra $200-300 and get a PTR, which will also have the paddle release installed (clip/pin jobs are ~$150, and the rifle wont require a smith to make sure it wont kill you)

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>>32492268
Anything marked as .308 generally isn't made to NATO 7.62 specifications, which means you might encounter problems when firing commercial grade ammunition in rifles with SAAMI spec chambers.

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Considering that .243 (6.2x52mm) is going to be the smallest of the BF category. What are some good AR10 uppers or any rifle at all for it?

/brg/ is literally the cesspool thread of /k/.

Jesus fucking Christ.

>>32492246
I mean sure if you shot out like 180g out of a rifle with twist that meant to shoot 147g.

>>32492326
You've clearly never been to /arg/ or modern /ak/ threads.

PTR or sell another rifle and get a SCAR?

w2c new FAL mags? How are DSA 30 rounders? 50rnd drums okay?

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>>32491394

too bad faggot, did basic training in Panzer schule 21 as an aufklärer, i walked hundreds of miles with rifle and yeah, it's heavy but guess what? everything is fucking heavy in the army, and if i was carrying a rifle one pound lighter i'd be carrying one more pound of ammo.. i have an awesome barrel in this gun and with our Swiss made GP90 i can outrange and be more accurate than any other 5.56 service rifle in the world

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>>32492321
I think you mean BR
DSA made .243 FALs, a few have made barrels for the AR, ive seen some M14s done up that way, no clue about the rest.

Though you should just do 6mm creedmoor, better with the VLD bullets.

>>32492326
Lurk moar, seriously, you shitpost like your 15.

>>32492335
SCAR

>>32492798
lol mr. skellingtion

>>32488747
What a fucking moron.

Jesus, you have to be a fucking retard to write shit like that or at least have no idea about firearms.

It's the typical sour grapes shit. You don't have one, you can't have one, so it's a complete piece of shit, right?

My father used his Stgw 57 for decades and still uses one for sports shooting, never failed him and the rifle looks all used as fuck. Go hug your safe queens and hope that you don't scratch them on your yearly trip to the gun range.

>>32493247
>He doesn't like my 400chf poverty rifle.
Go be irrelevant somewhere else

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>>32472999
Nice trips

Anyone have experience with the DPMS G2?

Thinking about picking one up when I get my end of year bonus. It'll be my first .308 rifle. I'm familiar with ARs so it seems like the easy choice for me, however DPMS makes me nervous but I've heard good things about it.

>>32492798
>meme-P 90
I mean it could be the most accurate farthest shooting 5.56 ever but if it doesn't incapacitate its target what's the point? Yeah I'm shit talking 5.56 but gp90 specifically has terrible terminal ballistics.

>>32493278
What's your budget?

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>>32493268
>he thinks match grade Stgw 57 cost 400 CHF

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>>32493438
>He thinks anyone outside of Switzerland cares

>>32484752
I'm looking into this now, will the wood furniture from cetme work on a ptr 91? I thought I read one of them wasnt interchangeable and needs like a quick dremel job to fix

>>32494082
The handguard takes a little adjustment.

>>32493278
DPMS is kind of notorious for shipping overgassed to shit rifles.

>>32494280
Most manufacturers put out overgassed rifles these days.

>>32494333
By overgassed I mean it's tearing rims in some cases.

>>32474906
>>32475042
>>32475102
>>32475219
what are your thoughts on the LFA, might buy one soon

>>32472999
Is AR-10 pretty much the only choice in regards to .308 semi-auto?

Price is probably the biggest factor, but I'd like a deer gun.

>>32494407
>>32494599
Haven't been able to shoot it but honestly it looks like the price is comparable to what you would spend building the same rifle.

A bunch of parts are generic DPMS to cut cost where they can get away with it like the charging handle, A2 grip, "mil-spec" single stage trigger. It would be nice to see better parts here but they would rapidly skyrocket cost if they used nicer things like Vltor charging handles, Magpul grip, and Geissele triggers. The BCG appears to be well done though with proper gas key staking and the barrel in the BA Hybrid is from Ballistic Advantage. They also use UTG Pro which is poorfag tier but still works.

I need to actually shoot the thing but I haven't had time to. It's right around 8 pounds and is fairly light and handy with the balance point right at the edge of the magwell.

Also came with a free PMAG and soft carrying case which is nice. Customer service is also pretty good, near-instant response times in my experience.

>>32493400
Like to keep it under $2000

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got myself a french qt today

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>>32487740
Nah, apartment. Dorms dont let me have the fun things like booze or guns.

>>32490690
Yep, CPU goes up to 80C if I dont take off side panel.

>>32492260
Its alright, not the most comfy but the space savings are definitely worth it.

>>32492183
Welcome indeed. Someone needs to figure out where /brg/ falls on the fruitiness scale.

>>32494754
Is it an aylmaod cpu? If so, I know the last fx chips they've released don't actually report temp accurately

>>32494668
For $2k you can do better. Much if you don't mind building. If you want a turnkey solution, look at the SIG or PWS offerings

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>>32473046
>>32473027
That gun is inferior to already existing guns.

>>32495415
The G3 is pretty bad, but the insas is clearly worse

>>32495172
Suggestions? I've always heard AR10s kinda suck

>>32496283
By the DPMS/armalite tier set. As I said SIG and PWS for the sub $2000 price point is great.

If you don't mind building, get a mega arms maten receiver set, toss on a ballistic advantage barrel, sprinkle in a good trigger, decent other parts and you'll have money left over for mags.

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>>32492940
>DSA made .243 FALs

Plz

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>>32496393
Might be some out there. Could get a barrel done. I've got a .358 Winchester FAL barrel under my bed.

>>32496422
Seems like sitting under your bed is all it's good for.

>>32496432
Until I find an LMT reciever, yes

>>32494721
i'm so fucking jelly. I h8 u.

>>32494599
>Is AR-10 pretty much the only choice in regards to .308 semi-auto?

No. Have you not seen any of the other posts on this thread?

The main ones are SCAR-17S, HK-91, M1A, FAL, and AR-10.

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>>32496393

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http://www.armslist.com/posts/2754074/washington-rifles-for-sale-trade--ptr91-pdw-pistol-with-sig-brace-fully-legal-cqb-308

>>32497620
Beautiful.

>>32498300
Thats how I see PTR owners

>>32492162
>He

Ugh

>>32498567
Its a moving story

>>32494800
Yeah, the CPU temp is inaccurate on mine so I usually just go off of the mobo cpu socket temp

>>32499562
What cooler you running?

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>>32499562
>>32499693
>tfw Hyper 212 EVO was the best $30 I apent on my computer

>>32499693
The shitty stock one that came with it when I bought it 3 years ago. Does pretty well so long as I keep it clean.

Should I get a PTR-91, or a DSA SA58? I know the latter costs a good bit more, but if I wanted an all-purpose battle rifle for SHTF, which of the two would be preferable?

>>32500076
imbel

>>32490597
>everyone has a G3/93 clone
>3 people not including myself has 1
>I'm the only with a FAL
>Century L1A1 for some reason on a imbel reciever (probably just a surplus thrown together
It's pretty well made and fires great

>>32500076
I'd go with the PTR over a DSA. I'd go with a good FAL over the PTR though.

>>32500182
What would classify as a "good" FAL? If I can get away spending less than ~$1500 and get a "new" rifle, I'd be happy.

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>>32500076
PTR.

>>32500201
Well with DSA you get a new rifle that has a lot of corners cut to save costs. On the plus side, you have a warranty if something does go wrong. I'd recommend a kit build, which you can get from good parts for around that price.

>>32500203
How badly does your PTR chew brass?

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>>32500076
Personally, I prefer the PTR. It really comes down to which you like better since performance-wise, they'll be relatively similar.

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If I wanted to drop loads of dosh to accurize one of my two rifles. Which one would be the better investment?
fal or my psl

I want a shtf hunting rifle. A rifle that I could go out into the woods when I believe the world is in a 'shits fucked' mode.

Something to be able to cold bore hit a 50yrd target but also semi auto in case a boar shoots out of the brush

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>>32500240
Like this.

>>32500278
Those are both pretty shit choices to accurize. Frankly, if you can't already shoot perfectly fine at 50 yards, then I don't think a better gun is going to change that.

>>32500290
They really need to make a rail mounted port buffer. That would take care of that dent.

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>>32500310
No ragrets.

>>32500300
I'm trying to hold off buying an ar10, but it seems that that is what I may have to do.

Ive heard of ppl getting sub moa out of both the fal and the psl platforms. But I take it with a load of salt.

>>32500201
You could always try to wrangle together an IMBEL kit build for somewhere in the neighborhood of $1100; the FAL doesn't need a ton of specialized tools to assemble, just a barrel wrench, headspacing gauge, and a decent set of screwdrivers, wrenches, and brass punches.

>>32500342
A good psl is usually at moa or better as far as the rifle is concerned.

I don't mean to come off as an asshole but what the other anon said is probably right. If you can't bullseye at 50 yards with a scoped rifle, the rifle probably isn't the problem.

>>32500342
Sub moa with an FAL is possible.
Your going to need an custom barrel, a rigid handguard, and some luck.

Realistically if you want sub moa, AR10 is the surest way. SCAR and G3 might get you there or damn close.

>>32496474
good luck buddy, youve been saying that for over a year

if you werent a poorfag youd have one by now

>>32500087
the only authentic available version there is

>>32500643
I got the barrel less than a year ago.
I could have gotten one, your right. But I found a steal on a G34, and then I bought a suppressor, and then I got an LMT.

You know what, I could probably get one next week, I think I'm going to get a new scope or handgun.

The FAL is not a priority. It's an old rifle, and doesn't hold the allure for me. Might just cheap the fuck out, get a coonan, assemble it and sell it off.

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>>32500469
I bullseye the target at 100. The problem is the spread. I hit the bullseye, but I also hit 3 moa to the left and right. As the barrel heats up they start stringing vertically.

>>32500616
I was gonna swap out the barrel for a krieger barrel. Put on a acr stock, a 3.5 lb jard trigger and some free floated handguards

Pic related.

So both the fal and psl can be sub moa but an ar10 is the most cost efficient road to walk

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>>32502194
The vltor isnt free floated. Which is actually good, very rigid handguards that are non free floating tend to improve the accuracy.

A custom cut FAL barrel, double hook trigger, oversized locking lug, rigid handguards all help make an FAL accurate. It's just not always cut and dried what the next step to improve it on an FAL.

With what you describe, you should be able to do 1.5moa for sure, might be sub moa. FN dropped the FAL for a reason trying to make it into what a SCAR is today.

Have your dreams though

>>32500757
>get a coonan

so youre cheap, lazy and dumb

>>32502658
Its more that my desire for an FAL has waned considerably. That im less sure of being able to sel off a shorty .358 winchester barrel and an ACR stock adapter than I am of being able to sell the complete package.

If I decide that I really want a super strong 9mm rifle, ill hunt around for an LMT. But if I continue just be ambivalent at best about the FAL, im going to want to offload it. Especially as that im basically going to have to buy a complete rifle, strip the reciever off of it to get an LMT made one. Which leaves me needing another receiver to put that one back together and sell off.

>>32500278
50 yards is nothing.
My psl is pretty much holes touching accurate as 100 yards if I'm not messing it up. Find the ammo it likes, make that your top priority for accurising it.
>>32500342
>Ive heard of ppl getting sub moa out of both the fal and the psl platforms
It's possible, but I'd say I'm slightly over more often than slightly under when I really go for groups. But that's with factory 188 surplus which is built beautifully for surplus ammo. I can't get the same consistency with anything else surplus. Bulgarian is close, but seems to always have some inconsistent shots. I notice certain shots seem hotter than others too from bulgarian, and if you pull bullets on both types of ammo, you'll see that much more care was put into the factory 188. The 150gr wolf branded stuff is about equally well made.

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>>32485334
check to see if the trigger housing is metal or plastic. If its metal, and it was done improperly as hesse has been know to do, it may wobble which, that may be an ascetic issue but should not a real problem. Wear on the welds that hold the pin holes, specifically the ones that hold the stock is a big issue. Actually, inspect any welds you see for issues. Also, check to see if the receiver is cast metal, it's probably not but that could be an issues as those are know to basically fall apart.
>pic related is what a cast receiver looks like
but beyond that i can't really think of anything. Inspect it well, take pictures, ask questions here if anything seems odd. Good luck on your purchase.

>>32484752
>>32484757
>>32484774
>>32484799
>>32484825
>>32484836
>>32484995
>>32485088
They won't ship to WA. End my life senpai

>>32490597
To be long and drawn out, get what ever you want. Both will be fine for most applications whether that be sport shooting or hunting. I personally think, and i bet most people here would agree with me, the Springfield is a much better looking gun, so that may be a reason to buy it.
however, the ptr91 is a better buy. The m1a is waaaaaaaaaay overprieced and with the savings you could have by buying a ptr 91 or the dsa FALs, you could buy a good amount of ammo.

>>32492240
yeah, it's a decent deal for a semi auto .308 but you are buying a lower quality product. While, I can't think of a case where it did actually explode, it did have at least one case i know of where it slam fired.
In short is a cheap, low quality .308 that probably wont kill you.
probably.

>>32494082
none of the stocks really fit on my ptr91 but i could probably make it fit.
If there are any parts you're curious about interchangeability, just ask.

>>32503744

>cast receiver

brb need to clean vomit off keyboard

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So I've been wanting to get a PTR-91

Should I get the full sized PTR-91 FR. Or should I get the shorter PTR-91 SC with its 16 inch fluted barrel?

>>32506228
get the full sized, install bayonet lug, stab some shit.

Canuck here
looking to get myself a late xmas present. Are svt 40s fun guns? I enjoy shooting my mosin.

Id like to get a SG550 but im lacking 4k $ for it

>>32507763
SVT-40s are fun but be very careful because they basically all need hand fitting.

>>32507797
Hmm
I was thinking ahead and was a little worried about if something went wrong. Availablility of parts/ my ability to fix it.

Might look into something else until i can afford my battle raifu

Question to anyone with a Garand:

I recently got my Garand from CMP, and when I went to the range to test/zero, I noticed that the recoil would cause the elevation knob to turn and lose whatever position it had been at. I brought the rifle back home, disassembled, cleaned and rebuilt the rear sight. When I take it back to the range, if the sight doesn't hold the elevation correctly is there anything I can do? I've tightened to the windage screw as far as I feel comfortable with, and anymore locks down the elevation knob so that it won't turn. I'd like to be able to fix it myself if at all possible

>>32502194
>I hit the bullseye, but I also hit 3 moa to the left and right.
>I hit the bullseye
>6 moa groups
hmm

>>32473027
>>32473046
>>32473188
>>32473961
>>32473972
>>32473980

Would you say it's worth financing?

>>32508866
Of course he will. He has to try to justify spending so much and getting so little out of it.

>>32473188
I wish I could find any. But I guess they're all sold out.

>>32508902
It gives me a boner, though.

.30-06 is still more effective than .308, right, or is it extremely marginal?

Assuming human as well as non-human targets, like moose, boar, bear, and auto engines.

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>>32484752
>>32484757
>>32484774
>>32484782
>>32484799
>>32484809
>>32484825
>>32484836

Oh hey, I have one of those. Great kit.

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>>32506228
I haven't shot the SC enough yet to really compare it to my other PTR (just took it out Saturday for the first time.) The whole thing seems a little scaled down from my GI.

>>32506264
This anon is right about getting a bayonet though, it's a must. As far as I remember the bayonet lug I have doesn't quite fit in the SC.

>>32508067
damn bro
i had a cmp garand that also shot the sights loose one way is to just count the actual clicks of where your zero is mechanically. i doubt you can locktite everything

>>32503762
Is that because this kit comes with components for an automatic fire rifle? Because I would think that having enough components to build a machine gun would warrant NFA registration. How could this be illegal in WA and still not be a machine gun?

>>32510987
>buy a surplus parts kit with a FA trigger pack, three FA trigger groups, and a FA bolt carrier.
>use it for the pretty wood furniture and surplus slings.

Also, some of the spare used tools that came in mine were gems.

>>32511047
I'm just surprised the ATF doesn't require registration of parts that were designed for FA variants. So after you've picked through the kit for the aesthetic goodies, do you just "lose" the extra FA parts in a boating accident?

>>32511134
No, they're not illegal to own. The FA trigger groups can't fit on the SA receivers without modifying either the trigger packs or the receiver.

>>32511145
Here's the question then: >>32503762 mentioned that Apex wouldn't ship these crates to Washington state due to WA's ban on NFA weapons. Is this just a formality, or are these parts actually illegal to own in WA?

>>32511154
I don't know or care about some anon's interpretation of possibly misheard or misunderstood state law that I'm on privy to.

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shoot me like one of your french girls

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>>32511771
Ill drop you like one of those french rifles

>>32511782
lel

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>>32511782
sounds hot bae

>>32473046
>too heavy
It's going to be carried by marines if anyone dude.

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>>32511782
i actually loled irl

>>32511832
Might have hit my put up or shut up moment with my .358 Winchester FAL barrel.
Found an SA58 with an LMT receiver for $1400. Could do a receiver swap and sell it back off for about the same amount.

Or im going to try to offload the barrel and ACR adapter soon and get another 17

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>>32511978
why not both?

>>32511992
Not really that into FALs like I was back in the day.
I have drunk from the wine that is the SCAR and it is far, far sweeter.

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tfw no love for ar-10s in /brg/

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>>32512027
Not that one maybe
Take a better picture and we can talk

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>>32512027
maybe get a qd mount so your BUS is usable

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>>32512033
Don't tell me how to live my life anon

>>32512054
>Everything in that picture is bait fodder

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>>32512054
that picture has more grains than cheerios

>>32488872
Why should I own inferior shit?

>>32512250
His government subsidizes that inferior shit.

>>32512250
Because that's the only thing you can buy.

What's the point of battle rifles? To kill people wearing power armor?

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>>32512968
Yes

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>>32512968
To kill something larger than a poodle. :^)

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>>32512987
It's also great for shooting people in the face

>>32511771
Sakuya dearest, what is that rubber thing on the charging handle? Is it part of the rifle or a cover?

>>32514149
Helps prevent damage when falling

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>>32514182
>Helps prevent damage when its dropped

its just the stock nylon charging handle its pinned on

>>32512987
this guy gets it

>>32514205
>Implying the french didn't design drop damage mitigation into their rifles

>>32514205
Fugg I didn't think it came from the factory that way. It's such an aesthetic rifle otherwise. Also I want to make aggressive secks with you.

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>>32514748
i wouldnt buy the hg but it doesnt bother me i find it aesthetically neutral

If only DSA released their titanium reciever.....

>>32515144
If only they released a non-shit receiver...

>>32473046
Only slightly heavier than an L85

>>32515171
Ones with a DS prefix on serial are GOAT

>>32515326
DSA is mid tier at best.

>>32515350
DS prefix were made by Lewis machine and tool.

Everything else is mid tier at best by comparison.

>>32474443
this FAL sucks all the KAWKs. shit paint job, so stop posting it.

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>>32515503
It's been like a month since it was posted calm your tits cum breath

>>32492240
Used to have one, it worked fine and I regret selling it.

>>32511963
No wonder you give shit to PTR owners, You'res is ugly as shit.

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>>32515798

>>32515798
>Implying any look good
Well I do like msg 90 looking ones

>>32492212
like for fly fishing, if you've never made your own you should try it, it's pretty fun.

>>32478397
Don't be a fag dude, the hue bro offers an interesting perspective.

Anyone ever mod .308 bren mags to work in aeteic FAL?

>>32492240
I have one, it's really good however i would highly recommend you spend the money and buy a PTR now that they come with paddle releases and other improvements. The PTR's from the old days were pretty meh for the money

>>32516322
>Don't be a fag
Where do you think you are?

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just nato my shit up

>>32517104
For a guy who dresses up in women's clothing, its surprising that you don't seem to own an iron

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>>32517125
you can also just throw them in the dryer with a wet rag

>>32517169
So what's your excuse?

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>>32517194
it makes people on the internet mad

New bread
>>32517241

W-why did the new thread get deleted guise

>>32511812
the weights not a scare, but id need a commission to afford that thing.

ill stick to my AR

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