3D printing mods

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Made out of PETG white with 30% infil

nice felony hide yo dogs

>>32296372
watch out anon thats very illegal

Dog murder aside, these just seem like crap since there is no cheek weld and no place for support hand to go...

>>32296396
oh fuck.

Just when you thought the world might be cool after all.

Just 3D print up a loop thing that goes around your arm and put a strap around it.

Tada, arm brace.

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>>32296372
Posting in an epic thread. Add me in the screencap

>>32296372
>>32296386
Y...you mean stabilizer, right?

>>32296404
The idea is to shoulder it to stablize, not get a cheek weld.

>>32296404
It's a .22 pistol. It just needs a red dot sight to make it easier aim and you'd be fine.

>>32296372
>tfw going to jail because you put a selfie stick on your ruger

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>>32296372
Thats a pretty cool gun you got there friend, why dont you tell me where we can meetup so i can try it out sometime? You can give me your address if it would just be more convenient for me to come over and check it out there

>>32296372

Prison is fun if you're homosexual.

>>32296372
Nice job op, ya dun goofed

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RIP OP's dog, front door, and anus.

>>32296372
sorry bud, you dun goofed. Only stock original apply to the C&R bit. Once you put a new production stock on you are fucked.

>>32296570
that 1911 would be legal, it falls under C&R.

>>32297046
I dunno about that. The exceptions are called out by name specifically.

>>32296570
Is this for real lol, can anyone explain the meme to me? Not well versed with gun laws.
What is legal, and illegal to own?
The pistol with the stock, illegal because it's a short barreled rifle right?
Why is middle not a pistol/rifle?
How is the bototm gun a pistol?

>>32297267
The ATF's definition of pistol is "A weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having (a) a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s); and (b) a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s)."

Since the top one was originally designed and produced with a stock intended to be shouldered, it's considered a rifle, of the short barreled variety and would require a tax stamp, although that specific one probably falls under relaxed curio & relic standards.

The lower one is an AR-15 that meets the definition of pistol, thus it is a pistol. If you put a stock on it, it would be redefined as a short-barreled rifle and require a tax stamp, but that's not a stock, it's an "arm brace."

The glock with the foregrip isn't a pistol because part of the definition of a pistol is "intended to be gripped with one hand." Since it also doesn't meet the definition of a rifle, it's considered "Any Other Weapon", and requires a different sort of tax stamp.

Yes, the ATF is autistic.

Shit OP, it's almost like you want your dog to be shot

>>32297267
It's real amigo
>the "any other weapon" or AOW and the short barreled rifle require registration and a 200 tax stamp. The "handgun" is just as legal as any other handgun
>Yep
>The foregrip classfies it as an AOW, don't ask why, there is no logical reasoning
>Nonsensical bullshit gun laws. Essentially, it's designed to be fired with one hand and the "stock" is designed for you to put your arm through and strap to your wrist instead of shouldering it

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>>32296570
Apparently it being old enough stops it from being illegal to operate. No stamp required for this guy.

>>32297471
>>32297451
Wait so the bottom.... its a "yeah lol totally a handgun ;)" made by the manufacturers right? You can use that thing as a stock,, and for all practical purposes, is it a carbine?

>>32297523
Well, it was probably built from parts by a private citizen as a "pistol".

And yeah, those things are shoulderable. BUT, let's say you're down at the range, and you just decide "fuck it, imma shoulder it." And lets say that the guy in the other lane is an ATF agent and you didn't know it. You will be asked to produce evidence that you paid for the tax stamp, and if you can't produce it you will be charged with a felony. Yes, really.

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>>32297523
>>32297589
To add on, pic related is a Serbu Super Shorty, essentially a shortened Moss 500 with a pistol grip. It was produced with a pistol grip from the factory, so it's considered an "Any Other Weapon", and it's allowed to be that short because it's not a rifle, it's "Any Other Weapon." The important part is that it came from the factory that way, so you can transfer it for $5, nothing illegal about it.

BUT, if you decided to put a pistol grip and chop the barrel off your bog-standard Mossberg 500, and you didn't play the expensive months long waiting game with the ATF to secure the proper licenses to do so, you've committed like, 4 felonies.

>>32297671
so buying this, needs a $200 tax stamp?
and you are in ATF database?

>>32297703
Registering it initially is $200, the manufacturer does that and adds it to the total price. Then transferring is $5 + huge wait for ATF paperwork + having your info stored. Only AOWs have $5 transfers though, other stuff is $200 for initial registration and every transfer

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Holy fuck this thread is epic

N O H U R T D O G G O

N O H U R T

>TFW this is completely legal in Canada

You know, if the gun laws were logical, you'd figure that all countries would have more or less the same laws, right?

Honestly, though, I'm not sure why Ruger never made a carbine version of it like Browning does with the Buckmark.

Beretta also makes a Neos carbine, now that I think about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HtTQkaJX1I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v2McgVaRzQ

>>32299211
I was thinking something similar the other day.
I think it is because the 10/22.

>>32299238

I don't know, man. That's like saying that their .22lr revolvers are competing with their .22lr pistols.

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>>32296372
Uggh ohhhhh
OP u goofed

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>>32296372
>>32296386
Cool arm brace OP.

Get your friend to print this for you next. 1/4

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>>32299633
2/4

It's really fucking annoying that we can't put more than one pic in a post like the other chans.

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>>32299638
3/4

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>>32299642
4/4

Remember to take lots of pics and report back to us.

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>OP shares his felony with the class

>>32299646
but what is it?

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>>32296372
>OP wakes up to a barrel pointing at his face and out the corner of his eye he can see his dog dead
>over a shitty done plastic stock on a ruger

>>32300349
Autosear for a glock. Im not sure if ot works for all or only certain generations. Id assume all but ive been wrong before.


>>32297589
I thought you were good to go if you shouldered a brace because it wasnt "designed" to be shouldered. Or did someone fuck that up for everyone.
I get its illegal and haha atf meme but when did we get so many scared bootlickers? We used to have threads with proof about improvised explosives, as long as OP takes it to the middle of nowhere to shoot theres no problem. Its only illegal if you get caught.
Looks like a pretty simple design OP, how comfortable is it

>>32300408
i wouldnt trust a 3d printed autosear anon

>>32300416
Why would you want a plastic auto sear? I was just telling that anon what the schematics are for. Thinking about it, that should work for any gen glock. Internally they havent changed much except the dual recoil springs in gen 4 and those have nothing to do with the firing mechanism. Il do more research and get back to you guys.

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This is a great thread lmfao, OP make sure to make a loop back to handle so you can claim its a brace and not a stock btw. Other wise the ATF will do pic related

>>32297046
>Only stock original apply to the C&R bit. Once you put a new production stock on you are fucked.
Repro stocks are fine, with regards to c96s at least but they're supposed to be "identical" to originals. The "original-only" thing is myth.

LMAO EXDEE GREAT THREAD XDDDDDD INCLUDE ME IN THE FAGGOT CAP

>>32300510
you telling me some fag 3D printing a stock for a handgun and posting it online isnt funny as fuck? I hope he gets pics of the police car at his house when they track him down.

>>32300528

you are one gullible fucking newfaggot aren't you?

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>>32300560
I guess if roughly a year here counts as a newfag then yes. Plus my 3 hours of sleep prolly has to do with it.

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>>32296429

dat wood furniture

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>>32300584

>>32300408
The atf got tired of people asking about it and decided shouldering an arm brace it's remanufacturing it into a stock

>>32300491
Wasn't it just c96s, artillery Lugers and inglis hi powers?

>>32300578
>replying
>thinks 1 year makes you an oldfag
>justifying being a newfag

>noguns on a weapons board

4/10

>>32296372
For what purpose? Just use a rifle. I see no reason for that.

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>>32300656
idk what makes you think im noguns, but if it helps you sleep at night you can tell yourself that.

>>32300408
We know that at least one of the alphabet soup agencies monitor this board now.

>>32300584
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/furniture-sets/walnut-rifle-sku100004905-38906-61221.aspx

>>32300612
>>32300713

Noice.

>>32296372
Hey,

This is Brian from the ATF field monitoring division. We don't usually go after stuff like this, because its not an illegal machine gun etc, but could you please just break it in two and post another picture? It will go over very well if anything does come out of this

Thanks, and I assume everyone will think this is a joke anyway, but please

>>32300786
Go fuck yourself, I've got a house full of machine guns you dog shooting cunt.

>>32300802
delete this

>>32300786
This.

Just break it op and post it.

Then make another one and next time call it a stabilizer instead of a stock.

Unless you want it to be a stock then make a strap for it and you got an arm strapped for it.

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>>32296372
>>32296386
>using hobby printers

>>32300786
Hi Brian,

This is in correspondence to your post on the Chinese cartoon board "4chan." Please refrain from shooting my dog in your inevitable actions proceeding this event, and kindly fuck off. You have forgotten the 4 most important words in the Constitution, and perhaps we may remind you.

Sincerely yours,
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

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>>32296372
(USER'S DOG WAS SHOT FOR THIS POST)

>>32300670
Wut

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>>32300584
>Wood

That's Bakelite

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No one's even bothered to ask if this guys Amercian, filed a Form 1, or is an SOT. My bet's on Canadian or some part of Europe that doesn't suck gun wise.

>>32300937
Get a load of Mr. Venture Capital over here

>>32300638
Yes, they're called out by name, but there used to be debate on whether or not repro stocks were allowed to be used with those models of if only original production stocks were except. The answer is that repro stocks that replicate the original are allowed.

>>32297046
this is fucking WRONG, not all C&R firearms are exempt from SBR, especially not a run off the mill 1911, it just happens to be that all SBR exemptions fall under C&R

>>32300937
>not investing in CNC
Lol, 3D is the biggest meme sold to idiots who want to play back to the future
>i-its for quick prototyping
Modern software can do it fine

>>32297046
Thats not a 1911

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>>32296372

sick stock OP

>>32297451
C&R doesn't exempt from NFA. All items are exempted by name only.

>>32301292
>>32300670
>>32300578
>>32300656
>>32300560
>>32300528
>>32300510
>fags arguing with each other over muh oldfaggotry
>>>/b/

>>32303850
>It's an Anon talks about engineering/manufacturing when he clearly isn't in that field episode

>>32306337
Not him but what is the point of 3D printing? Seems neat but inferior in every way to injection molding

>>32306337
You said it better than I could. So I'll say it worse: fuck that guy.

>>32297046
>1911
>>32296570 is not a 1911. Looks like a Star Model B.

>>32306451
Small batch replica parts. I make replica enigma machines and i cant justify the cost of injection molding for the 3 a month that i sell.

>>32296372
Knock know whos there? ATF!, ATF who?

>>32296533
Can tall people not look awkward when shooting?

>>32306451
Guy who grew up in his family's injection molding shop here, they're really expensive to make initially. If it's for production, then you're golden, but if you're not ordering large batches of parts then it isn't cost-effective in the short run.
I can remember every separate noise the machine used to make, and I would sit there with my dad or grandfather running the machine, picking out the parts from the catch box and separating the sprue from the part. I miss those days.

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>>32296429
>>32300584
>>32300713
Honestly there's no point if it doesn't replicate the A1 furniture. I want my Service Rifle. Maybe when I have money to waste I'll pick one up. Want to get my CZ75 reblued and C96 fixed first though.

>>32303850
Are you literally retarded?

Do you even understand how autistically long it takes to mill shit with CNC compared to 3D printing? You can't just make solid fucking metal get milled faster with the software, unless you want your $50 cutter jammed 2 inches into your shitty, illegal, homemade pistol stock.

>>32307509
I-is that an artillery sight on a glock?
Fuckin why???

>>32307660
Is there any good argument against it? Do you want to miss those 1000 yard pistol shots?

>>32307693
oh fuck...

He's right anon.

>>32300584
>Wood

Jesus

>>32307371
Oh I remember you. Sales finally picked up?

>>32303850
>Modern software can do it fine
Modern software can do *what* fine? I can't hold a CAD render, test ergonomics, or put electronics in. I can make shit same-day in the printer while I program at the same time.

>>32307371
that's cool as fuck anon.

You got a website?

>>32306451

Prototyping/small batch for the most part. But it is also used for situations where the geometry is too complex to machine. For instance, additive manufacturing is being used a lot for propellers, impellers, heatsinks, rocket nozzles, etc.

Remember: When you machine something, the tool has to be able to enter and exit the part. Additive manufacturing allows for geometries that are otherwise impossible.

>>32307611

Making the jigs, programming the part, etc take a lot longer, for sure.

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>>32296570

Firearm genders when.

Probably a dumb as shit question, but if you put a 16in barrel on a pistol and added a stock as well, would it be legal without tax stamp?

I know you can't just remove the stock and put a shorter barrel in a rifle and be legal. Is it the same vice versa?

>>32300786
Hi Brian, just wanted you to know that even I don't love you and you should kill yourself.
-Jesus H Christ

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>>32307509
>>32307660

>>32310432
Yes, the reason why the mectech carbines are legal. Laws are weird.

>>32308569

bullshit, they use other methods like casting or forging. You don't need to machine everything or have every surface of the design made by a tool.

>>32310517
For finishing you pretty much do.

>>32310517

This guy beat me to it: >>32310592

Yeah, you'll often cast/forge a blank, but if you want any real geometrical accuracy or a good surface finish, you'll need to machine it.

Hell, a lot of machine tools are actually made with giant blocks of cast iron as the base. They cast it, let it sit for a long enough time for the stresses in the cast to relax and then they'll machine very precise features into it to fit the working components.

>>32300937
>>32303850
>>32306337
I've been in the general manufacturing industry for years, mostly manual and CNC milling machines/lathes.

On this series of posts and other posts linked to it, I have to say it's often a little more complicated than that. There's more to it when deciding what manufacturing process to choose, and it can often be more about how competent you/the person/ the people involved are, and when you aren't/don't have access to competent people, 3D printing can become more attractive.

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>>32296372
let me predict your future op

>>32300786
Oh yeah? What are you wearing, "Brian" from the ATF?

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>>32296372
>>32296386
Is this satire? You tried to make a funny, right OP?

>>32297451
Damn murrica gun laws are retarded.

I mean the laws in my country are more restrictive but at least they make sense.

>>32311216
>but at least they make sense.

DO THEY, though?

>>32296429
What scope?

>>32307509
Can you share the 3D model with us?

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>>32296372
>>32296386

>>32297760
A class II manufacturer can make any NFA item on a form 2, no tax stamp is required. Form 2 (SOT manufacturer) and form 3 (dealer to dealer tramsfer) are both tax exempt.

>>32316310
Oh nice, thanks for the correction. If that's the case I'm surprised that AOWs aren't way more common.

>>32307509
>9mm pack howitzer with self destruct feature

>>32307509
> you will never zero your gun with that sight

>>32307509
>sighting a .45