/akg/ AK General

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>>32183346
>slavsquat editon when

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I finally have a full Arsenal furniture set to sell off. I should be able to get like 140 for this easy right?

First for No Dimples=No Opinions

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>>32183397
just price it like $15 below what a full set would cost from Kvar and put it on akfiles

>>32183346

DDI is trash, AKFiles AK47 section is a absolute clusterfuck right now.

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>>32183428
Reasonable enough. Maybe I can convince someone to grab the brake with it too and buy myself a 74M long collar plus a Belgian combo

>>32183397
>I should be able to get like 140 for this easy right?

Maybe half that.

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>>32183439
True

>>32183461
I was pretty close to getting 145 yesterday, dude backed out at the last moment, really killed my mood

>look at AIM's quantity remaining for Yugo mags
Hmm, that's not right, my dudes.

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In for /best stock/

>>32183346
>AK Thread
>vZ.58
Peek Won

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>>32183389
Sounds like the next edition, тoвapищ.
Cпacибo

>>32183507
>>32183506
I'm not sure which of you is more retarded

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>>32183483

>>32183483
Beautiful

I'm thinking of doing a build just like it. I've been wanting to get a 5.45 anyway and that pic pushed me over the line

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>>32183505

Do they have more or lees than they were sold?

>>32183580
It's showing less.

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>>32183554
Thanks i really like this polish wood

>>32183610
>9453 left
How many did they get?
Maybe they're only putting 10k at a time in their system?

>>32183580
Wow retards actually pay 300+ for an AK mag

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>>32183610

Ah, my guess is that they sold some in bulk to other dealers or are keeping some fore sale once the current amount gets low. How much are they making per magazine at $10 each?

I'm debating getting in on some of those 'Yugo mags. Should I spend the extra buck and get the polish mags or is the difference negligible? I don't have any steel 30 Rds

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>>32183444

>>32183632
More than twice that.

My guess is they scooped the minty ones off the top either for resale or for sale later.

>>32183645
Yeh, probably sent off the nicer ones. Not going to give exact numbers, but they really aren't jewing you at all.

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>>32183644

>tfw I only paid $68 for mine

One sold on Gunbroker for $600 recently

>>32183446
Balkans the chronicles

>>32183397
I just sold a full poly set for $75...

>>32183687

There cheap peices of shit though quality wise.

>>32183741
Fixed stock or sidefolder?

Because sidefolders on Kvar are like 175 before shipping

>>32183766
Folding. Thing is people are pulling them off Arsenals all the time, and selling. Arsenal US "74 style" brakes are what, $100 on the kvar site? Who would pay that?

>>32183517
To be fair, I'm just being intentionally retarded. I thought it would be funny to say. I am drunk. >>32183507

>>32183543
Also, get a P07 bayonet on that shotgun. It's not complete without one. Get dat shortsword.

>>32183796
Yea fair. I'll just lower the price every other day till someone buys it probably. If I break anything somehow I'll just buy an extra surplus off AKFiles for cheap

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So question.

If DDI's extractors keep shitting the bed, would replacing it with a military surplus extractor of some sort resolve any issues related to that? Or would they be non-compatible.

And secondly, does this last round of DDI failures make WASR and Arsenal the reigning champions of production AK-47/AKM style rifles in the US?

(I'm leaving Vepr out since they build many of their rifles off RPK receivers, not saying the aren't great)

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>>32183410
Where does the cleaning kit go?

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>>32183891
you know where.

>>32183891
In your ass.

>>32183851
it took 2.5 weeks on GB @ $75 fwiw

>>32183467
>screenshot of a screenshot of a screenshot
help

>>32183869
A new extractor would work, seems like DDI already got a new supplier for them, Theirs no stamped Arsenal 7.62s being imported atm so the only other option is a wasr or another kit build.

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>>32183397
I bought this side folder for $60 or $65 (don't remember which) shipped a few months back

The ones Kvar sells for like $175 include all the rear trunnion hardware. The poly side folders alone they sell for around $90 to $100 new

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>>32184093
I must've missed something good then cause looking at Kvar now it's 172.99 for no hardware and 320 with hardware

>i just want cash for furniture i have no use for

>>32184116
http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-LSFB.html

$110ish for the stock, unless you're talking about $175 for all the furniture together

>>32184149
Full set. Muzzle is the last US part to replace on my gun and I'm selling all the "compliance" parts

>>32184167
Ah ok, for some reason I was thinking you were just talking about the stock.

Does anyone know the best place to find used Arsenals that aren't more expensive than buying new? Also, what's the best 5.45x39 model I can get?

>>32184212
104FR

Armslist did me pretty well, could try local shops or shows too

>>32184212
>Does anyone know the best place to find used Arsenals that aren't more expensive than buying new?
2015
>Also, what's the best 5.45x39 model I can get?
SGL 31-94

>>32184221
>>32184228
What's the verdict on VEPR rifles? Atlantic has VEPRs for $999, while their 104FR is $1,066

>>32184263
Weird bastardized RPKs with short barrels, whereas SLRs are essentially Bulgarian made AKS-74s.

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>>32183644
I've paid $950 for a mag

>>32184391
Which one?

>>32184391
Two of those prototype 5.45 steels sold at 2000 and 2200 recently didn't they?

How are AMD 63s?

I heard the barrels have a short use span, but I also hear how great they are.

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>>32184391
wut fuckin mag

>>32184402
>>32184407
>>32184479
Early aluminum Bizon

>what's that stock?

>>32184479
>casket mag
>100 series folder
>RPK profile stock
I'm just going to ignore the fact that it doesn't have an RPK trunnion

Really though, any info on that stock Chimps?

>>32184478
The barrels are fine, the only issues come from pressing them into the trunnion

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>>32184506
>>32184503
No fucking clue

Have an early 74M buttstock with a solid hinge. 4.5mm?

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help me

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>>32184407
Yeah, they've been moving a round a bit recently or more have shown up.

So, I just started looking to get my first AK (at a bad time, apparently). Should I go for a WASR or Yugo NPAP?

Out of curiosity, if a green bean meme mag from Roosiya DID make it to the states what do you think the price would be?

Hey Zasta how was milsim?

I'm super jealous that I couldn't go, but ditching my wife and kids to fly across the country to cosplay in slavshit just wasn't happening

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>>32184559
They seem to be going for around $1000

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>>32184546
Weird

>>32184577
It was pretty great! I'm planning on going to the next one too (really need to buy a ticket) Guess that what having responsibilities is like, I'm getting married next year so doing it while I can. (And still have money)

https://youtu.be/Kp05j5J1NYs

>>32184228
This

>>32184674

Holy fuck what kind of beard weld do you get trying to look down that sight?

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Is this the be-all end-all of rare mags?

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>>32184782
The pineapple lifesaver or the cutdown bakelite?

>>32184555
Both are fine. WASR is more customizable since it'd a standard AKM and this has a sizeable aftermarket.

Yugos use special snowflake furniture and have ~75% parts compatibility. Also no chrome-lining in the barrel but Zastava barrels are also beefier to compensate for this.

I have both, and my Yugo is the better built of the two, but I'd give the WASR the edge as an intro to the platform due to aftermarket and standard ergos.

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>>32184695
>Holy fuck what kind of beard weld do you get trying to look down that sight?

>he doesn't put the buttstock directly on his solar plexus when ge shoots

>>32184881
Cool, thanks. I was leaning a bit towards the WASR for the chrome lining.

>>32184992
Chrome lining is less of a big deal than it's made out to be on the internet. Only you can decide if it's a deal-breaker or not.

Juat bear in mind that it was mostly introduced to small arms to increase barrel life under sustained automatic fire. Corrosion resistance is also better. There really aren't downsides to having it.

However, that said, those Zastava barrels are also extremely high quality and have seen use in conflicts all over the world. They've survived and shone through worse conditions than you're ever going to put the gun through.

Like I said, it's up to you and there's really not a downside to a chromed bore but the internet makes it a bigger deal than it actually is.

Probably you're not ever going to shoot out either barrel and frankly if you can afford enough 7.62x39 to do so then you've probably got more than just the one AK anyway.

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https://ria.ru/arms/20120919/754096543.html

Article explaining how the weird AK74Ms in Crimea came about

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>>32185197
>Only one of the retainer plate packages has made it out of customs.
Why do I have the feeling it will be yours, and mine gets stuck there for 30 days.
Again.

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>>32185270
lifes a bitch lol, bet one just didn't get scanned

>>32185197
Fuck that link nigga, post an archive

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>>32185270
IKTF

Russian post is fun

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>>32185298
Shitty Google translation

14:0519.09.2012(Updated: 14:09 19.09.2012 )

Russian Armed Forces will receive kits for independent modernization of AK-74, he told reporters Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.

TULA, September 19 - RIA Novosti. Russian Armed Forces will receive kits for independent modernization of AK-74, he told reporters on Wednesday, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.

"(Developer) in three variants will feature versions that will not alter the existing weapons in the Armed Forces, and to send kits for retrofitting machines already in the parts", - said Rogozin.

According to him, this is a simple assembly, spare parts are discarded and new parts are installed. "The machine turns out, in fact, a new class", - said Deputy Prime Minister.

According to Rogozin, in early October, it assumes show Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev modified AK-74.

"These weapons are convenient and ultra-reliable The problem was the same -. That it was not a good sight, a laser pointer and a thermal sight", - he said.

Previously, Professor of the Academy of Military Science, Victor Korablin in an interview with RIA Novosti said that the necessity of the transition of the Russian army on a fundamentally new types of small arms from the world-famous "Kalashnikovs" (AK-74) No, we can talk about their upgrading to the level of AK -74M. He also noted that the existing armed with AK-74 can be upgraded to a simple strap installation for optical and electro-optical sights, which will significantly improve the accuracy of shooting, adding that the Russian Defense Ministry refused to purchase an upgraded version of the AK-74M, produced by the plant "Izhmash" .

The expert recalled that in addition to sight leaf modernized machine has other important characteristics, such as a folding plastic butt, structural strength of a number of parts, as well as the new grenade launcher GP-34.

>>32185287
I hope that's it and when it hits a hub they both get updated.
Just out of Jamica, NY is not very telling.

>The last time seemed to be because the Russian 6 looks like an upsidedown lower case g, and apparently the machine couldn't read it.

Oh well, it'll get here eventually I suppose.

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>>32185356
Worst I've had was something like 6 months, about half the packages I get don't get scanned past US customs till my house

>>32185392
That's true.
I still have a tracking number for mag springs from rusanon that was never scanned beyond "Arriving at Customs"
It's still "hasn't been delivered".

>The springs arrived the same time as the bodies.

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>>32184583
Seen this thread?
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/85/533234.html

>>32185433
lol That's why I don't worry about overseas tracking, just chill and hopefully it'll show one day

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>still waiting on Beryls I ordered over a month ago

>>32185454
>>32185416
>>32185412
>>32185392
>>32185355
>>32185287
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>>32185251
>>32185240
What's all this about?

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>>32185487
Just Russian Klash fans being autistic like us.
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/85/533234.html

Tracking production changes

>>32185513
neato

>>32184843
Sauce?

Hey guys, I'm getting my WASR re-finished with graphite black satin cerakote, how did I do?

>>32185968
neat, post pics when you get it back
I like the stock park finish that they come with.

>>32186037
It should be done in a few weeks

>>32186042
>>32186037
It'll take a while because they're backlogged because of the holidays

>>32184782
Nope. Already has made it state side. One of those instagram show offs has it.

>>32185513
Their autism is off the charts.

>>32183651
Both are great mags, yugo is only "necessary" of you want bolt hold open feature.

>>32183869
Arsenal or wasr yeah. Definitive arms is great, IF you can find them in stock and IF you can buy one because they sell faster than crack to an addict -_-

>>32184514
Fucking no. Mel over at the files has taken a few of them apart and the gas ports are drilled fucking stupid. The chamfer goes down INTO THE RIFLING. Watch the videos for yourself.

This has more to do with its current construction and not related to the softer ess barrels.

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>>32183506
best? no
but I like mine and is way easier and cheaper than getting a real underfolder. Plus honestly I think its easier to grip and fire when its folded in than a traditional one

4 tins of 7n6 on SG, limit of 1 per.

Any one tell me if this is a good deal

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6156726/anchorage-alaska-rifles-for-sale--wasr-10-ak-47-side-fold-

>>32187101
Sounds good, that furniture is worthless, but if the gun passes inspection then its gtg

>>32187101
that price is about the going rate right now for a brand new one, but I don't know about shipping to alaska from L48 businesses, so that may jack the price of a new one way up.

but then there are 500 rounds and some mags added, so that sweetens the deal.
I'm not a fan of that style folding stock, but if you wanted to you could order other furniture pretty cheaply.

It's not bad right now. but if you wait a while the price on brand new WASR's will probably come back down below $600. maybe.

Want your guys opinions on a few things. Wanting to replace the ugly blonde wood furniture on my wasr I bought(2015 production) with surplus wood, or polymer, but not sure which. If wood, I'd like to get a handguard set with the wooden foregrip, and a stock with door for cleaning kit, or at least one that I can put the equipment on, so no solid stocks. Best place to get these? If polymer, what set is good quality, didn't have to be the best, but don't want cheap tapco/mako stuff, and would prefer a heat shield but not a deal breaker. And last, what is a good muzzle break around +/- $50-75? Thanks in advance.

>>32187245
Get wood from files or apexgunparts.

If polymer is desired get some asrsenal it will still have the place for the kit in the stock. The handguard is steel reinforced

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>>32187002
best stock is best

>>32187343
Ia that a 5.56 tantal ?

>>32187355
Fuck me its in the file name, disreguard the last post.

>>32187364
Romy SAR-3 w/ Molot 45-rounder for further clarification

>>32187393
Thanks, thats i nice rifle. Thos molot mags are one of the best 5.56 mags out there imo.

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>>32187428
Its not mine, but I fucking know it. I thought about getting an extended mag but honestly for what you pay, I'd rather have a couple twenties.

>>32187456
True ive had the same internal argument with myself. Tho it is nice to have one.

>>32187277
Thanks friend, what are your opinions/ advice on a good muzzle brake?

>>32187495
Well my opinion is going to be a slant brake.
Id stay away from tapco, if you can find a dtk-2 brake those are sweet

>>32187474
Well, my AK I'm going to be pushing more towards CQB since I'm coverting my AR to be a SAW so I have a better effective coverage of ranges between my 5.56 rifles. So high-cap, goofy ass long mags probably isn't what I'm looking for.

Also, twenties would let me get lower to the ground and give me more capacity than 10-rounders since I hunt a lot with this rifle.

>>32187516
>Well my opinion is going to be a slant brake.
After what it did to my shooting on a vz2008, I'm never letting one of those things on a gun of mine again.
Every test I've seen comparing slant brakes to anything else shows that it's very poor at being a brake, both in recoil reduction, and stopping muzzle rise.

>>32187538
I never said they work well they just look good. Haha
>>32187531
I get ya man, i would grab some black beryl mags tho they seem to ne the best 5.56 30rnd mag.

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Anyone interested in an ammo can 700 rounds 7.62x39?

>>32187564
I am. I just bought my first AK. how much are you selling it for?

Would it be worth dropping $100-130 on plum furniture almost entirely for aesthetics?

>>32187560
I've got a couple Circle 10's and a shit ton of East German Weigers. They're my favorite, actually, standard steel 30's

>>32187538
The slant is prettu useless, except maybe in full auto.
My opinion, this bulgy brake works well and you can still throw a bayo on.
>And it's finally back in stock

https://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-351.html

>>32187574
Located in central fl. tampa/st.pete area sell it for around 175 if you are local. this fucker is heavy. probebly cost a lot to ship.

>>32187591
Interesting, i did not know the wiegers were compatible with other 5.56 rifles . Do you have any pics of them in the rifle ?

What is a good ak manufacturer for around 2grand I'm a new to rifles aks

>>32187617
Arsenal and ammo

>>32187560
I have my doubts as to whether anybody would say they look good, except that we've seen them as the norm on aks for so many years that it doesn't look normal without it.
I think an rpk flash hider or tapco slotted looks better personally. If I'm going to put an almost non-brake on my gun, I'd at least rather have a flash hider that looks decent.
>>32187560
>>32187592
On the vz2008, it actually effected my shot placement quite a bit too. I think there's got to be some gas blowby that acts on the bullet. It was making feet of difference, up and right IIRC, when I was shooting at my 400 yard steel.

>>32187614
I'll take some today, I've been meaning to anyway.

>>32187626
Thank you does it matter what kind of arsenal I see different ones

i also have a WASR 10 that only had a couple hundred rounds through it at the range. Case, 2 30rd mags, all paper work. I will sell for around 550.

>>32187617
the most high quality rifles in the states are sold by Altantic or Arsenal, and are around $1000 or so. the DAKM is generally thought of as the best.
at $2000, you start getting into AKM derivatives like the PSL or VEPR, which are also quite nice, but not the classic AK experience.

>>32187630
Huh ive never shot my wasr past 300m max, but ive had no issues with shot placement. There are definitely better options.

>>32187665
Depends on the features you want ? Milled sam7 are ugly but good guns, slr104s and 106s are solid too. If you can find a slr 107 get that. You will have to pick a caliber

>>32187682
What does milled mean for a ak?

>>32187686
It means the receiver is milled from a block of steel, vs stamped which means it's made out of stamped sheet steel.

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>>32187686
It means the reciever is one milled bar of steel instead of of stamped from a flat sheet of steel.

>>32187686
Heavier, less flexion under firing conditions, and theoretically a shorter service life.

>>32187698
*block

God dammit

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>>32183815
M1917, yes

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>>32187697
I found this for around my price range www.atlanticfirearms.com/ak-47-74-rifles/arsenal.html

>>32187726
Who did the shotgun conversion? Dig the Sig.

>>32187697
Thanks>>32187708

>>32187734
That is a solid gun, people will sperg about the 90 degree gas block . Id get it tho

>>32187734
>heavier
>shitty trigger
>shitty mag release
>non-standard furniture

If you have $2k to spend on an AK get a Kreb's Custom and be done with it, Arsenal is shit by comparison.

>>32187755
If its his first ak, lessons must be learned from experience. Its a exceptional starting rifle.

>>32187768
He'd be better off with an SLR even then.

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>>32187739
I did. Thanks!
Still need to add a rear sling point. Probably going to go to a plastic buttpad too.

>>32187768
Now if youre in the military it has to either be in the armory or off base correct

>>32187796
This is true , but its still a good rifle.
>>32187831
Permanent station orders ?

I'll be joining in about 2 and a half months I just haven't had time to see the rules.

>>32187811
Good luck on the rest of the conversion, you degenerate fucking weeb! What year, and I assume its a 12ga?

>>32187842
why suggest him something when he'd be better off another route?

>>32187617
If your budget is 2k I'd personally get a VEPR, they can be found around $800 then you got plenty of money leftover for ammo or a conversion. I'm definitely a vepr fanboy but they are undisputedly nice fucking rifles.

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>>32187755
>krebs
>multicam
kill your self now

>>32187916
See
>>32187682


I merely put it out as a option.

Shit speaking of $800 VEPRs kvar is sold the fuck out. Woke up thinking I might buy a .308 23in. Do you guys honestly think VEPRs have a chance of dropping in price or increasing in availability any time soon? I really want more but I've mostly had my eye on a new revolver.

>>32187755
Also
>heavier
Yes!
>shitty trigger
No!
>shitty mag release
/arg/ get out
>non-standard furniture
kill your self

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>>32187916
It's a mid 2000's Polytech (not Norinco).
I wouldn't trust an original to handle modern loads for too long, so I sought one of these out.
>chromed bore
>chromed bolt
>standard screw-in choke
Very happy with it.

>>32187979
>shitty trigger
yep
>shitty mag release
yep, compare it to any other AK release
>non-standard furniture
i'll take "type 3 buttstock" for $400, alex

>>32187996
That's cool man, better that you not kill an original anyway. My buddy took his grandpa's 16ga birdgun and chopped it and put a mossy heat shield on it before deciding he didn't like it an sold it. Poor 1895 :'(

>>32188040
What about that mag release makes it any wise that other AKs?

>>32188050
If you've every actually handled / fired / been around a SAM7 you wouldn't have to ask. Its a this sheet of sharp, enlongated metal that is so stiff you don't really get any more leverage at the risk of slicing your flesh on the sharp fucking edges as opposed to a nice, rounded standard release that moves freely and isn't retarded.

>>32188074
Ah, never used one before. It just didn't look all that different from other AKs.

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>>32188074
You mean like this ?

>>32187617
Vepr like others have said, or arsenal, definitive arms, rifle dynamics, SVD Krebs customs are asking that budget range.>>32187626

>>32187811
>>32187726
Actually it's a P07 bayonet for a Mk.III* Lee Enfield. Not for an M1917. As I recall, it won't fit on the M1917.

>>32188156
That SVD is supposed to be "and", overlook the typo.

>>32188122
https://youtu.be/8GUDSrppXhw


Just save the milled gun for when your experience with AKs and know exactly what you want out of it.

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Ok do i build a M70 underfold from a parts kit or buy a n-pap underfold? Apex has m70 kits (everything in it you just need a reciver) for $400 or a n-pap new for $650

>>32188500
Buy. You'll spend like 1k before that kit is done

>>32188187
>"and" always autocorrects to "svd"
>AK community problems

>>32188506
My friend has all the gear to make one. My main thing is the worry that everything is shit

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Fuck im bored

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>>32188531
Here it is with a Weiger.

>>32188592
Disgusting

>>32188531
That's not an AK6 tho

>>32188600
post ak

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>>32188603
That's true.

Pic related is an AK6.

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>>32188611
Quit being disgusting with your rifle

>>32188661
lmao its you

your rifle looks objectively worse than mine friendo

>>32188671
All of your opinions were invalidated the moment you recommended Krebs

>>32188682
If you're going to spend $2k on a rifle don't settle for a fucking lolpaintedonfinish

>>32188705
Arsenals aren't $2000.., if you're going to spend $2000 on a rifle don't settle for fucking Krebs

>>32188705
>>32188671
Why do you even come to /akg/ if you're just gonna be retarded?

Krebs is for the tryhard AR guys who decided they also wanted an AK but don't like the feel of AKs. At 2k I'd be looking into RD or an Arsenal and 1000 dollars worth of extra shit

>>32188603
G are hard man

>>32188592
That mag looks good in a 5.56

>>32188742
1k on rifle and 1k on ammo
Or save a littlw more and get a preban

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Rate my new AK.

>>32188999
Holy shit, is that an SKS with a 3D printed AR lower? Pretty fucking badass, in spite of my typically traditionalist tastes.

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>>32189039
Exactly.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/12/02/3d-printed-sks-chassis-pearce-armoury/

>>32189091
LOL dat sight radius tho

>>32188999
>>32189091

It. Is. Beautiful.

Link? Details? I will sell my AKs to get one of these.

>>32189757
The post you replied to had the link in it.

...???

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>>32188774
I think so too and they function flawlessly. I keep the ((10)) in it thought because the camo matches.

>>32183626
I Like that stock.what it it?

>>32190070
What is what ? The ak stock is a russian triangle.


Also who makes the best heat treated 100% reciever for a polish underfolder?

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>>32190161
Radom :^

>>32190172
So this
https://www.childersguns.com/CG1-Polish-AKM-47-Receiver
?

I'm having trouble deciding how I want to paint my ak. Toss up between od green, fde, and burnt earth(brownish). Tried Google for inspiration but couldn't find much. What is your guys take? Post pics of your posting jobs for bonus points.

>>32190277
Post pics of your paint** jobs

>>32190244
I'm not too well versed in the kit building side of things but from what I hear Childer's is good. I think Nodak makes an underfolder receiver too don't they?

What's wrong with the one in the kit

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>>32190244
Childers is pretty good.

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>>32187708
>shorter service life

>215 replies
>75 images
>56 posters
We sure love talking to ourselves, don't we?

>>32188500
ask yourself how much you want a bulged receiver and gas block with grenade sight/cutoff

Does your desire for those two cosmetic features outweigh the benefit of the entire gun being made in a Zastava factory on Zastava tooling with a CHF barrel?

Because your US-made barrel and receiver aren't going to be as nice as the Serb ones, though they might look cooler.

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>>32188766
>RD
>All of their guns have bolton FSGBs

Are ANY of the """""premium""""" US AK makers fucking worth it?

>>32190534
>implying that's not true

>>32190757
>us
>ak
>premium

Obviously not

If you're willing to buy used get an SGL for 1500+ would be the best option

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>>32188999
>>32189091
>leaving the wood UGH on

>>32190759
>implying your piece of shit sheet metal lasts longer than a block of steel

>>32190825
>still arguing about stamped vs milled
>still falling for the milled meme

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>>32190850
>still not providing a valid argument

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>>32183410
That's beautiful

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>>32184038

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>>32190912
mmm all these delicious layers in this DDI-a-shit pie

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>>32190960
We have to go deeper.

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>>32184391
How and where to get GP-25 that can fit on ak? don't care if deact or repro just so long as it fits on my 104fr

>>32190759
It's really, actually not.

A milled AK has a much longer theoretical life-expectancy than a stamped gun.

It's just that the life-expectancy of both is so aatronomically high that the debate is purely theoretical. By the time you've hit the magic number where the receiver has started to go, you'll have rebuilt the entire gun from the ground up replacing every other part several times.

There's a range in Las Vegas that has full-retard converted AKs they rent out to people. These guns go full-auto magdumps all day erry day (which is nothing like actual real-world use of these guns by you or any regular or irregular military in the world) and the lifespans of the milled receivers are longer than those of the stamped. But the stamped guns, in probably the most abusive environment you could put them in, will go through hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of ammunition before they fail.

Considering anyone arguing over this has a near-zero chance of even being able to afford enough ammo to shoot out the BARREL of their AK, arguing milled vs stamped on the virtue of the strength of stamped is pretty stupid.

You'll never notice that a milled receiver is stronger than a stamped. What you WILL notice is that it cost more, had a far shittier aftermarket, and weighed more.

If you think the Soviets didn't crunch the numbers on this shit you're retarded. The Russians are STILL fielding decades-old stamped guns.

Milled guns are a meme.

It's all fuddlore.

>>32191002
There's like 20 known in the country and they're all illegal save for Boof's registered DD

>>32183467
>>32190912
>>32190960
>>32190980
This is why you cant trust the anti ddi posters

>>32191006
Also, if you're so worried about a stamped AKM being too weak, get an AK with a reinforced, RPK-style receiver like a Vepr or OPAP.

>stronger than a regular stamped receiver
>lighter than a milled receiver

Checkmate, memelords

>>32183444
Nice trips, cockgobbler.

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>>32190980

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>>32191155
I like this meme

any one tried one of these
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/sb-tactical-ak47-pistol-stabilizing-arm-brace-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>32191060
You don't own an OPAP Vepr or a milled AK do you?

Empty weight, no magazine
>Milled Arsenal SAM7 - 8lbs 1.7oz
>OPAP - 8lbs 3oz
>Vepr FM - 7lbs 8oz

They're all "heavy" and only off from each other by ~11oz between the lightest and heaviest of the 3.

How are the Vepr rifles? i was looking at a Vepr 74 on Atlantic.

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Fucking APEX, are these faggots just a bunch of hustlers or what?

Or pic related and get some unpainted knockoff for $100. No returns fuck you

>>32191396
I guess it's my fault for not picking up on the "pattern" in the ad, fuck me

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>>32191166

>>32191396
>>32191411
Wtf are you complaining about anon

>>32191396
>some unpainted knockoff

it was just bare steel or what?

Where the heck am I supposed to find a proper side mount rail for my AK build? All of the ones I can find are modern styled.

>>32191503
My own stupidity I suppose for not carefully reading the ad. Whatever I'll sell it and get most of my money back
>>32191512
Blueing of some sort, plum colored

>>32191548
Huh?

>>32191548
do you consider this one "modern styled"?

https://www.apexgunparts.com/scopes-and-mounts/us-made-ak74-scope-rail-new.html

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MOLOT RPK HYPE 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

(I haven't learned my lesson from September edition)

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>>32188661

>Russian blue taped mags
>Tourniquet keeping a cleaning kit in the stock

Spetsnaz as fuck

>>32191644
That's a bandage, not a cleaning kit

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>>32191639

I NEED IT

>>32191705
Hello fellow Venez-bro, how do I know if I got a dud or not? I've heard some chatter that some of the belomo scopes didn't pass QC so they got sold to stupid fat lazy americans like myself. Mine works fine and looks fine, but I'm just wondering about it now.

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>>32191729

not sure, honestly.

check for point-of-aim/point-of-impact drift.

make sure the dot doesn't flicker and what not.

bought mine off the akfiles from someone who confirmed it had no issues.

haven't had any troubles with it.

>>32191597
>Blueing of some sort, plum colored

No problem. Get some of that black high temp paint, like for an engine or bbq grill. Degrease the flash hider. Paint it. Let it dry thoroughly (at least 24 hours). then use an old wire coat hanger or something similar and hang it from the oven rack and bake it for a few hours at the recommended temp.

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Anybody ordered one of these muzzle brake / flash suppressors yet?

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Butt pad came in the mail today. I wasn't sure how it'd look with synthetic furniture, but I think it looks p neat.

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We're called "extractors". We go into DDI's dream of selling a profitable firearm and "extract" the extractor out of their dreams.

>>32192105
It looks like ass. No offense.

>>32192142
I wanted them to be successful until I saw how much of an asshole that CEO or whatever he is, is. He was giving some dude a bunch of shit because the dude asked about a cleaning kit or something. Fuck that guy and fuck his company.

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>>32192142
>Mountain Standard Time bros
>doesn't have his clock on 24hr

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>thread theme

https://youtu.be/imamcajBEJs

How is Red Army Standard 60gr 5.45? A local shop stocks it for $0.27 per round and while that's a little more than what I pay to buy online it's nice that it's a 5 minute drive away and if it isn't trash I'm gonna buy a few boxes a week just to keep a steady flow of 5.45 coming in.

>>32192322
Dunno about their 5.45 but their 7.62 is just above Tula tier. Not absolute shit but still worse than most.

WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THEY MAKE AN AK104 CLONE?? MY LIFE CAN FINALLY BE COMPLETE

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ddi-hammer-forged-black-poly-rifle-with-side-folding-stock-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>32192359
>2018 extracted uh I mean subtracted by 2
>Buying DDI

>>32191631
No, I like that one. But I bet it's not heat treated, and that would be kind of a pain for me to undertake.

>>32192381

Well who else makes one like that?

>>32192150
Do you like them on wood furniture?

Does /akg/ have any book recommendations about modern Russian (1991-present) military action? I've read One Soldier's War and loved it, and I've read a lot of Soviet-Afghan War books, but I'm wanting something more modern

>>32192423
Arsenal for like $200-$300 more

trying to choose between the Sam7 or Vepr AKM. I already have a wasr just trying to decide. Halp.

>>32191644
>>32191659
What's with the blue tape?

>>32192460

Link? Model number? I know they made a AK103 clone but not AK104

>>32192524
they think it looks cool. I don't get it, but whatever, it's not my gun.

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>>32188182
English bayonets don't usually fit on American rifles, yes.
>>32191088
<3
>>32191729
No issues with mine.
That claim sounds like bullshit. Usually we get stuff like this because of contract overrun.
>not my rifle, but one just like it

>>32192524
Russia military issue electrical tape is blue for whatever reason.

So when Russian soldiers tape up shit on their AKs, they use the blue tape that's widely available.

Because we're all cosplaying slavaboos deep down, we also use blue tape to look kawaii for vatnik-senpai

>>32192578
>What is Google
Don't fret friend, I'll spoon feed you

Here comes the airplane! Open up!

SLR107CR

>>32192524
Basically this for 99% of the tape >>32192660
Mine does double duty on my grip though because metal floorplates were chipping off paint during mag swaps

>>32192517
anyone?

7.62x39 > 5.45x39

>>32192961
vepr, rather have a russian akm than a bulgarian one with iffy paint

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>>32192627
Well in this case, it does. I've owned an M1917 as well as a couple Mk.III* (The original Mk.III came out in 1907 as I recall) Lee Enfields along with a P07 (Pattern 1907) bayonet. I have never owned an M1897-style shotgun, but, I HAVE tried to fit the P07 (and even the M1 Rifle) bayonet onto the M1917, and neither would fit. I kind of have an affinity for bayonets so I definitely would have tried to see which rifles they would fit, but the P07 is not an M1917 bayonet. I can assure you of that.

I can recall talking to this one American dude who seemed to get downright insulted/shaken when I said the M1917 rifle is essentially British. It's just a rechambered P14 (Pattern 1914) rifle, which is a British design. He said it's not British at all and is completely German. While the bolt IS clearly taking quite a lot from the Mauser action, as well as the bolt release, mag, and the end of the wooden stock is clearly very Mauser-like, but the buttstock, cock-on-close action, method of bolt disassembly, and safety are all thoroughly non-Mauser. The sights are also non-Mauser. So the M1917 might have been manufactured in America, and have German influence, but it clearly has a touch of British to it as well, and he simply could not stand to think that the rifle that Americans used most in WWI was British in the least. Could not fathom or accept the mere thought, and said it was German German German.

Speaking of which, isn't the Remington 700 based off the P14/M1917? If it's not, then it CLEARLY has a lot of influence from it, save for the fact it's cock-on-open instead of the superior cock-on-close.

Also, fuck this picture-captcha bullshit... I literally just got this. How do I make a circle with a fucking square?! Where's Mr. PoPo?!

>>32193038
I love 7.62x39, but largely, I think I'm gonna have to disagree with you and Lt. Gen. Mikhail Kalashnikov.

5.45
>More accurate
>Lighter
>Still capable of impressive penetration (7N6>M193 7N10>M855)
>Bullet is smaller but dat tumbling tho
>Lighter recoil

7.62x39
>Retains energy/velocity better (Superior LMG round?)
>Better for hunting
>Better against armour?
>Better at penetrating cover?

Nah, in most situations, 5.45x39 is the better round. For innawoods though, 7.62x39 all the way. Can't carry as much, but if you get some soft point rounds, you're probably good to get even moose. That said though... I wonder... would the tumbling of 5.45 make it good for deer? The combination of penetration and tumbling might also make it good enough for moose too, even though it's FMJ. Illegal, yes, but if I had to use FMJ to hunt... I dunno... 5.45 would probably be better to hunt with than 7.62x39 in terms of FMJ vs FMJ. Thoughts?

>>32192169
>Retard complains and acts entitled that a cleaning kit isn't include with purchase of his rifle and nowhere does it says it does.

Yeah no fuck retards like this, I work at a vendor that sells AK's and other rifles and you can immediately spot a new AK owner or retards who think every rifle should be an AR-15 and if I owned the company I'd call them out every single time.

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>>32193326
nothing wrong with it, but there are certainly better rounds for the job

>>32193326
I was mostly shitposting, I prefer 7.62 but I understand why 5.45 is preferred today. That said, 7.62 is also surprisngly good out of an SBR; it doesn't lose that much velocity in short barrels.

>>32192460
>>32192578
>>32192708

>Stamped 7.62x39 arsenals

These are still not being imported and its going to be forever until we get anymore.

>>32193268
With a number of clicks approaching infinity

>>32193112
Iffy paint and various canted parts.

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>>32193357
I guess having more powder would do that, huh? Relies more on propellant rather than on a light bullet.

>>32193389
Fucking hate these picture captchas. Yeah the old words/letters method wasn't perfect either (pic related) but it was a lot less time consuming than this bullshit. When did it start anyways? I've only been back on /k/ for around a month and a half or so.

>>32193357
7.62x39 is a premier SHTF/survival, whatever fantasy term you like, caliber IMO. M67 does well, there's plenty of 8HP out there nobody seems interested in. I'd take 5.45 in a tactical situation, but 7.62 was literally perfect for unorganized militia types

>>32193491
Which is why I, as an American private firearm owner who doesn't own anything full-auto or has to engage in tactical situations, prefer 7.62x39. Hell, forget SHTF fantasy, it's a solid round for something like ranch rifles, as evidenced by the existence of the Mini-30.

>>32193448
I think it started before hiroshimoot, everyone loved it because you would just click and it would give you a green check with no work, then people started getting weird things occiasonally where it would say "select all pineapples" and they would screencap it and add it to their post, and now you pretty much have to do two picture captchas every time.

>>32193523
300 and in, hard hitting, brutal hollow points, fantastic in 10-12" barrels, rugged rifles, fairy common, inexpensive to stack, fun to shoot, fantastic

Well, Chink flatback added to the collection

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>>32191023
Did some research, it's probably air shit
>pic related

also source on that number? I want to see a legit GP-25 inside the US

>>32193551
Bunch'a bologna.

>>32193557
I wonder what barrel length you'd need to cut down to in order to get that 123gr bullet going 2250 ft/s instead of 2350 ft/s as seen in the 16.3" barrel. 2250 ft/s was the STG-44's muzzle velocity with its 125gr bullets (if memory serves), so 7.62x39 at 2250 ft/s is LITERALLY pretty much 7.92x33. If I had to guess... 13"? That's little more than a guess, really; I don't know a whole lot about how much difference there is in velocity between barrel lengths. I think the SKS had 2450 or 2500 ft/s, didn't it? That's with 3.7" more length, so perhaps 12.5" would mimic 7.92x33 from an STG.

>>32193666
Summon Boof and ask him. There was a surplus site selling Russian deacts a while back, but ATF decided they were too easy to make real again (true, but shitty) and banned them. The site showed ~20 sold to US addresses, unknown amount returned to ATF after they said "pls give them back"

>>32193666
apparantly some gunbroker surplus seller will be getting a bunch of demilled russian grenade launchers in soon. Don't know if theyre GP25s or not.

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>>32192660
>Russia military issue electrical tape is blue for whatever reason.
It's not necessarily military issue, just the most common in Russia.

It's blue because that's what is used for 220 and they use different colors for different voltage.
>At least that's what I've been told.

>>32193735
Polish palards

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>>32193926
Pallard

Tfw most of the crap here is made in China but their firearms cannot be imported

>>32193926
>Polish palards
Gross, an airshit GP25 would be better for show and tell, or one of these if you're seriously into those milsim events with the blamks.

http://airsoftpyrotechnics.com/airsoft-pyrotechnics-products/tag-015-grenade-launcher-detail#.WEI9djMrLnA

New to /akg/, what's the best bang for your buck ak rifle in 5.45? I don't mind sending shit back to century if its one of theirs, this is going to be a plinking only rife

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>>32194009
How are airshit GP25s? Do they attach to real rifles well enough?

I'm genuinely surprised nobody has made resin or metal replicas of them to sell to slavaboos. If they're accurate enough I'm sure they'd sell like hotcakes on the Files.

>>32191639
I'M NOT FALLING FOR IT THIS TIME

But seriously if it's what we all hope it is (please Lord God have it be a VEPR 1V in 5.45) I will buy it immediately

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>possible 7.62 RPKs
>my only other 7.62 desire besides a 104

I don't have enough MONEY FOR THIS SHIT

>>32194285
>surprised nobody has made resin or metal replicas of them to sell to slavaboos
More importantly, why the hell doesn't anyone make a flare launcher or golfball launcher that looks and attaches like a GP25? There has to be a decent sized market for that.

>>32194481
Hell, I'd be happy with one that was actually just a high-lumen flashlight with the trigger for a switch.

What's the best method for making "fakelite" out of black plastic furniture? Hydrodip? Rattlecan? Glossy paint?

New thread

>>32194649

>>32194649

>>32194649

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>>32193348
>dude mentions that he thinks it's bullshit that the gun didn't come with a cleaning kit (which IS bullshit btw) but focuses mostly on the fact that the gas tube rattles around and in general the rifle feels shoddily-built
>company basically calls him a faggot over the gas tube thing and completely and overtly ignores the chief complaint of the gun not being made well, and hopes no one notices
>apparently this diversionary tactic works because all you morons are talking about is the cleaning kit and not the fact that the guy got a sub-par rifle