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>>32194649
Best Stock Edition

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Anyone have any sources on deactivated/inert/resin GRO or GRN grenades? Are they even available in the US?

>>32194678
Alright, I see this meme in just about every thread. I'll bite; WHY is it the best stock? Yes it looks sturdy, its simplicity does suggest to me that it should be affordable, it's cool that it comes with its own sling swivel, I ASSUME it's easy to install, I ASSUME it's lighter than a wooden buttstock... are these the reasons why it's best? Light, cheap, easy to install, swivel, and folding? Is there anything useful about that little thing at the top of the triangle?

>>32194691
Speaking of Russian grenades, are F1s and RGD5s still in common use among Russian forces or have they entirely switched over to the GRO and GRN?

>>32194789
It isn't the best in any way, he's just a shitposter who need validation that the stock he bought is actually good and not just a normal old shitty wire folder.

>>32194691
Guy on gunbroker had some f1s and rgb 5s also gunpartscorp had Bulgarian training ones

>tfw can't join the party because mine is in some shop, waiting in line to get "work" done to it

>>32195300
Yeah I see F1s and RGDs all over but I don't think I've ever seen any GROs or GRNs.

I had a rubber F1 a few years back but it got destroyed by a friends dog thinking it was a toy. I almost bought a few resin RGDs a few days ago but wanted to see if any more modern inert or dummy Russian grenades were a thing.

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Greetings from the wasteland.

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why is a been there done that worn steel ak mag sexiest mag there is.

>>32195634
Gross. Sorry m8

>>32195343
what are those pants

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>>32195348
same. End of the month, hopefully.

Am I still a laughingstock if I own a DDI built form the Hungarian kits?

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>>32195654

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>>32195634
You are not alone brother.

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$8 yugo mags at AIM!

>>32195714
>abominable
Considering the circumstances, I think it actually looks pretty decent.

>>32195714
At this point, an unconverted Saiga would be superior for a better grip.

>>32195747
>$9.95 unless you buy 10, then $8.95
That's not $8, friend.

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>>32195670
Gorka suit.

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how much should i sell my npap underfolder for?
> extra wood handguards and hogue handguards
> wolf recoil spring
> 2 mags (pmag and steel surplus)
> mustard sling
690 sound reasonable?

>>32196336
Keep the sling you stupid faggot

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>>32196336
i have like 2 more

>>32194789
It's not "the best."

They're about on par with underfolders, maybe slightly better.

Which makes them fucking shit.

>>32195714
>>32195634

So.... Like, the point here is what, exactly? You can't put your thumb around the grip?

Can you not just get a fucking thumbhole stock and call it a day?

Is the idea that if you can't wrap your thumb around the gun you can't kill people with it?

Do they think criminals aren't gonna be able to take that off?

I'm sorry I'm just trying to understand.

>>32196336
>how much should i sell my npap underfolder for?
>690 sound reasonable?

I wouldn't fucking pay that for one, but apparently Atlantic is selling them for $740 these days. $50 isn't much of a discount for a used gun though you don't say HOW used I guess.

>They were $550 new a year ago.

>>32195714
How the fuck do you even hold that thing ? Just supporting it with your thumb on the side ?
How comfortable is that to shoot ?

>>32196636
yeah, not him but, thumbhole stocks are considered babby killer devices here too, as opposed to the conditions of the national assault weapons ban where stuff like the SL8 would fly. Yeah the kydex prevents your pistol grip from acting as a pistol grip by preventing your thumb from going around, without permanently altering the weapon. This allows it to be 'featureless' in the eyes of the state, akin to naturally 'featureless' weapons such as mini-14s, socom 16s and the like. And yes its stupid.

When the hell are we going to see arsenal slr 107s coming back? Kicking myself in the ass for not buying a 107fr from Atlantic 9 months ago. Almost pulled the trigger on a DDI but didn't.

>>32196883
Probably summer/fall next year.
There might be a small batch or 2 before then.

>>32197208
I hope you're right. I'm new to AKs and want to get a good one for around $1000. Everything I read seems to have the consensus that all American made rifles at this price point are shit. Is this true?

>>32197278
To me it's mostly true.
With some, it's too early to tell if they're going to end up being good in the long run.
You could always find a kit and have a reputable builder build it, and could possibly get it all for $1k or so.
>I hope so too, I'm tired of all the US made crap we're having to put up with in the meantime.

I was way wrong about the AES10Bs showing back up last summer, but I also wasn't privy to Cugir and subsequently Arsenal Bulgaria, filling contracts thus straining exports to the States.

Hopefully over the next couple years we'll see a renaissance of AK imports.

PSA has some stupid policy that they won't sell rifles to people under 21, are they gonna have any way of knowing if I were to buy it anyways?

>>32197293
So if you were to have $1000 to spend on a AK right now what would you buy?

>>32197537
I'd probably save it and wait.

>We might just see the rollback of sanctions on Russian AKs, and that could have a serious effect on the market.

But if I had to, I'd probably find the cheapest place that had a WASR, and spend the rest on ammo and mags.

https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/RI1805-N?is_firearms_wikiarms=0

Then start putting money away for a nicer rifle, while shooting the shit out of it.

>>32197601
Thanks man

>>32195707
Fuck no. Their kit builds are fine and I would gladly buy one if it came up for sale at a reasonable price.
I would not however buy one of their US made guns. Ever. Even if they get their shit together with the ejectors.

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>trigger plates arrive soon

Fuck I'm so excited

>>32198008
Yup, you really do need wooden furniture to make orange mags not look like shit on an AK. Orange mags+polymer furniture=fucking disgusting.

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>>32198144
you again

>>32198155
You are actually probably thinking of me.
That's just someone else with the same opinion.

>>32198144
>>32198155
>>32198166
dub city. but yeah that's gross looking.

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>>32198166
>>32198170
oh fug they're multplying

>>32198155
Never liked bakelite mags before.
But that actually looks really sweet.
You just made me spend more money......

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>>32198188
ayyyyyy

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>>32198045
I'm guessing you're talking about the RTM FCG retainer plates.

>Guess I was wrong, Zasta. The one that made it out was mine.

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What's a good rail + low profile reddot for a 74?

I'm not sure what's good for mounting for co-witness but am considering an RMR (the 1 MOA version) and either a top/sidemount

Any advice?

Where's the best place to get Zenit rails?

>>32198155
>>32198184
Sorry to be the one to inform you that not everyone worships bakelite orange on guns it doesn't match with.

>>32198370
dust cover rail = shit
get a side mount. RS regulate makes a respectable one, but other companies do too.
red dots...Primary Arms, Holosun, Aimpoint, Vortex, Burris, all make good red dots. Hell even the Bushnell TRS25 isn't complete shit and it can be found in the $70-$100 range. (there are a lot more good red dots than just the ones I listed). Basically find one in your price range and start reading reviews.

>>32198444
they can be found on ebay directly from russia if you're patient.

>>32198155
I'm really not trolling, but it looks disgusting.

>>32198184
>>32198195
It's just plain ugly.

>>32198370
There we go, that looks better, though I don't approve of the red dot.

Ultimately, those orange bakelite mags should be reserved for AKs with wooden furniture. Black plastic or steel mags though, use them on whatever.

>>32198338
Nice.

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Did I get memed?

Anybody ever bought from akstuff dot com?
Their prices seem fair, but I've never heard/read anything about them.

>>32198514
I can't tell who made it just by looking at it (I know, I'mma fag).
So who made it?

ps let that big toe toenail grow out before you get ingrown toenails.

>>32198514
>Dat foot
Now there's a /k/ommando, but yeah, I wouldn't bother with milled receivers. Stamped receivers are lighter, and that's reason enough to stick with what the Russians have been using since 1959; stamped receivers. Also, how the fuck is that optic staying on the dust cover, and why is it on the dust cover to begin with?

>>32198527
SAM7SF
RS regulate 302 with AKMT
Trijicon MRO.
Just waiting for my suppressor stamps get approved and then I'll be happy with it.

>>32198515
I got my B10M from them. No problems.

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>>32198453
>>32198496
Not ugly, you're just wrong.

>>32198496
>My opinion is absolute!!

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>>32198549
Never heard of side mounted optics?

>>32194649
considering you gotta pay well over 1k now just for a functional AK, should I just get an AR? x39 is getting more expensive too while AR food is getting cheaper.

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>>32198559
>I got my B10M from them. No problems.

Cool. What kind of mileage you get with that thing?

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>>32198672

>>32198515
Bought from them before, had a problem with processing once and the owner called me direct to make it right. Pretty good dude, and products at a fair price.
It sure beats waiting a month on shipping from Russia

>>32198489
Out comes the poor fags. Stick to your non zero holding TWS.

>>32198559
>>32198731
Right on. Thanks guys.

>>32198515
Owners a good guy. It's legit.

>>32198770
Thanks.

>>32198514
I like mine. It's butt ugly but it has a great trigger and it's very enjoyable to shoot. That being said, I would have gotten a SLR 107 if they were available at the time

>>32198694
I'm imagining a bus modded by Zenit, covered in rails, huge boxy lights, and IR lasers

>>32198549

>talking as an authority
>doesn't know about the siderail.

>>32194691
They're not really cheap. The only thing they offer is they're light, don't interfere with controls or optics much, and they allow a centered "cheek weld" compared to underfolders. They're pretty garbage honestly

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I went to that place called "outside" today and shot my SLR

There's nothing more fun than just tromping around the woods and (safely) shooting

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>>32199678
>I went to that place called "outside" today

sounds horrible.

>>32199678
East coast state? Virginia?

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>>32199738
Nah, Washington state

Are these guys a legit retailer? Never done business with them before ?
http://armsofamerica.com/polishfbradombrandnew762x39coldhammerforgedbarrelbuyanyv-projectproductpartskitandorqty3andreceive1000offeachbarrel.aspx

>>32199844
Yup.

>>32199844
Yeah.
Got some Hungarian 20s from them when they had them "cheap".

>>32199844
there were issues with those barrels, so make sure you read up on them. something about the LHG cuts were cut too wide, and the HG will always rattle, and something about putting muzzlebrake threads on it as well.

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>>32199959
Well i just ordered one, i think the arent threadded becuase imported as sporter barrel.

>>32199757
Is that the ocean?

>>32200085
The person that replied to you is an idiot. They are "sporter" and they come in featureless. The only way they would be messed up is if someone did shitty work on them.

>>32200123
Yes, the islands in the distance are the San Juans

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>>32194649

got my girl a bayonet finally.

>>32200245
Thanks good to hear i cant wait to build my underfolder

>>32200246
I went and shot pistols last night innawoods of Mt Baker, was creepy

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>>32199757
>mfw I can lay sniper fire down on you island when SHTF

>>32200085
>not ordering one that is already threaded from AKBUILDER

Wew

>>32200459
Ayy where you at fampai?

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Haven't really gotten replies on what to do or what to know, so here I go again.
Atlantic has these new FIME VEPR rifles in 5.45. They're built off of RPK-74M receivers, but are converted to basically be regular AK-74s. I'm debating between one of these and an SLR104-FR, the VEPR being a little cheaper. What do you guys think? They're pretty new rifles so reviews are almost impossible to find.

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/fm-ak74-11-detail.html?Itemid=0

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>>32200497
>Bulged front trunnion
>RPK furniture
>No accessory lug
>No bayonet lug
>No cleaning rod
Could have been so much more if they had given us what we were so hyped about when they announced their BIG SURPRISE

>>32200527
There is an accessory rail

>>32200497
They're good, but I'd rather have the Arsenal.

>>32200497
Meh. It's almost too much rifle for what it is. Especially considering that an AK74 is already plenty accurate for the cartridge, and it's pretty expensive for a neutered rifle that can't even stow a cleaning rod. It's well made for sure, but for that money just buy a full featured Arsenal or something.

>>32200547
>Accessory lug
>Lug

>>32200551
>>32200553
Alright. I'll pick up the Arsenal, thanks. I'm surprised by how cheap 7n6 is too.
>>32200575
Is there a difference? Not being sarcastic, I genuinely don't know

>>32200480
Meh id rather the free shipping threading does not cost much.

>>32200497
>no cleaning rod

This will forever bother me. I know these are great rifles but NO CLEANING ROD

>>32200547

He said accessory lug, not rail.

>>32200619
>Is there a difference

Yeah, the accessory lug is under the gas block and allows mounting of things like a grenade launcher. Notice on this one >>32200497 it's ground down flat, but on this one >>32199678 it's not.

Bayonet lug is under the FSB. Or it should be.

>>32200711
Ah, okay. My bad, I (obviously) confused it with the side rail

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Got package lads. Place your bets. I paid $100 for it.

>>32200807
Dragon dildo vintage used collection.

>>32200807
A drum mag.

>>32200497
All it needed was an RPK barrel ;_;

>>32200807
40 pounds of rape?

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Hey /akg/, tell me why you would shoot a gun that can go off at anytime. Even in the hands of a renowned firearms trainer such as Travis Haley?

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>>32200933
I don't know about you but I want my guns to fire when I pull the trigger.

>>32200933
>go off anytime
>Travis' finger obviously hits the trigger

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>>32200807
I can't read this shit.

>>32201082
It says, "OTKPblTb" I believe

>>32200933
What a pretender bitch
Negligent discharges get you banned from the special forces community. WHy the fuck is he allowed to still make videos?
At least Pat Rogers died with dignity

>>32201160
This.
Fuck Travis

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>>32201082
Oh baby!

>>32201293
Nice. Do you have the sunshade?

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>>32200807
>>32201082
>>32201293
How the fuck did you get that for $100? I was gonna guess from some Ivan but the box is in english.

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>>32201348
Sadly no, I'll be looking for one soon.

>>32201366
I don't even want to tell you what I paid for my slr.

>>32200933
>>32200981
>>32200991
>>32201160
>>32201184
You guys do realize he was showing this as a what not to do with your trigger finger when you have your safety off with your ak right? It wasn't done on purpose but it shows you shouldt follow that part of the russian manual of arms of keeping the safety off than putting your trigger finger on the mag catch or caming it to the other side.

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did I do good?

>>32201704
The fact remains that he did his demonstration with a round in the chamber and negligently discharged the rifle. I don't think he should be crucified for it but it was definitely a big mistake.

>>32201704
Wow look how fast /arg/ made it here to defend their favorite poo-poo trainer. Thank God dummy Travis Haley is around to tell everyone the people who developed the thing he only just started using are all using it wrong. Really makes you think.

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>>32201851
The gun community will bash anyone and anything endlessly.

>>32198338
Fuuuu


Lol

>>32201870
I dont go on ARG and I own 6 AKs compared to my 3 AR's . I'm not defending his ND but it happened and most gun owners have either had an ND or will eventually have an ND in their life. Also I'm going to probably trust Haley over some slav on of having the idea of your trigger finger anywhere near the trigger on a rifle with the safety off unless pointed at something I'm trying to shoot.

>>32201851
True, he could have easily did the demo with out ammo in the mag but shit happens.

>>32194649

General curiosity here, but from the numbers I've seen even out of an 8.5in barrel 7.62x39 still kicks ass. In fact it only loses like 10-12% velocity at such a barrel length.

That's hardly anything, right? Why aren't there more SBRs out there leveraging this caliber and shorter lengths? Any obvious deficiencies beyond flamethrower muzzle blasts and noise?

>>32202216
Cuck stamps, laziness, AK pistols aren't practice.
>AMD-65
>107CR

>>32202216
>>32202352

I'd buy a factory SBR (and a whole bunch of suppressors) tomorrow if I could just pay the $200 extra funbucks at the counter and walk out with it after completing the 4473.

Delays and fingerprint/photo requirements need to fucking go. It makes no sense to dictate that a rifle becomes a title 2 weapon because it has a short barrel in the first place, but to place ANY additional burden on the purchaser instead of the dealer is just asinine.

Was there a time frame for the Galil ACE 5.56 release?

>>32200497
>all that extra vepr weight
>none of the worthwhile ak74 features
Yeah, I love my veprs but I'd never pick some half neutered overweight ak over an ak with the modern features.

Are maadis gud? LGs has one for like 595. Its kinda beat up tho. Bores good.

>>32202012
>most gun owners have either had an ND or will eventually have an ND in their life

Yeah bro keep telling yourself that. Get to patchin up that hole in your wall before mom finds out.

>>32198638
Forgive my retardation, but why are all the siderails I've seen so expensive? Are mounts different on different rifles? I'm planning on buying an M90 soon

>>32203112
yep a buddy of mine has one and he likes it.

>>32203127
Ive never had an ND but keep telling yourself you will never have one because that's exactly what leads to having an ND.

>>32203246
my brother fuckin shot his hand. I think im pretty much set on gun safety but thanks.

>>32203264
Its not that you are not being safe its that it could easily happen to you without thought, if it happen to your brother it could happen to you.

895 for a Wolverine at my local fun store. Should I get it?

>>32203591
*829.

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>>32203112
Really depends on the importer

90% of them are great (shitty finish and prone to canted parts, but they function just great and are true foreign made rifles before 922r mandated US made parts were a thing), but Century imported some and mixed parts with leftover Chinese parts to spawn the MISR90 and those are garbage, and they're often called Maadis by the uninformed (see: regular old gunshop employees)

>>32202012
>most gun owners have either had an ND or will eventually have an ND in their life.
You're an idiot. Most people don't sit in their bedrooms fingerfucking loaded guns like the idiots on here.

are 5.45 AKs a meme? i've never shot the caliber.

also if I do get one, who makes the best ammo? I see there's no golden tiger in stock for 5.45

>>32202216
OP picture is an AK 105. 12.5" barrel.

>>32203769
They are cool I like them. Unfortunately no one around me sells it and only being able to get ammo online blows

>>32198811
Well fuckety duck,. Pardon my derp if it's indeed coming off a side rail (of which I know quite of) but it LOOKS like it's on a herpity derpity dust covery donkity wonkity you fuckety duckety.

I want more beer. Fuck you... I fucking love you, my fellow /k/tard.

>>32203769
I've been shooting guns (recreationally, in the military, competitively, and as an instrictor) since I was 8 and I'm 31 now. I've got a massive round count under my belt and I've shot many many many different types of firearms, and 5.45x39 is unironically and wholeheartedly my favorite caliber ever. It is as close to perfect as perfect can be.

GT 5.45 is iffy, your best bet with ammo is either get 7n6 while it's still the same price as normal commercial ammo or Silver Bear is regarded as some of the best commercial 5.45. I've had great experiences with WPA 5.45 too.

>>32203325
Which is why you think about what you are doing while you are handling firearms. Tada never ND.

>>32203789
why does it blow? i order all my ammo online - it's cheaper and more convenient

>>32203839
isn't 7n6 corrosive? i hate cleaning my guns so i definitely can't shoot it if so. my poor mosin barrel...
i figured it came down to silver bear or tula

>>32203854
This, or just instinctively check the chamber and magazine of whichever gun you pull out of the safe to goof around with and keep all other magazines but the one with the gun away from you, and tada you can goof off all you want with your gun and never worry about an ND because you've checked and checked and checked again that it's clear

>>32203789
I havent even looked yet, but is there brass cased 5.45?
>hardmode
If it doesnt cost less than $0.50/peround, it might as well not exist for me

>>32203860
>isn't 7n6 corrosive?
Yes but it's some of the best performing 5.45 you can get. Just flush the gun out with some bottled water before you leave the range and then clean like normal

Tula 5.45 is arguably the worst 5.45 you can get

There is no brass 5.45. Even the fancy and expensive Hornady stuff is steel.

>>32203915
This.

Tbh you could piss down the barrel to clear out the corrosive salts

>>32203977
Don't waste your valuable fluids on the barrel, if you have a chrome lined barrel it will be the last thing to corrode

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God damn these PBS sights are retardedly complex.

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>>32201432
100 dollar EKP is nice but I wanna know if you beat my SLR price T B H

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What's the best way to into an underfolding SBR 74u?

Approx price for parts + gunsmith vs prebuilt?

Pistol or rifle first?

>>32204299
Easiest? Find the rifle in the configuration you want with a 16" barrel. Assuming you're in the U.S., file your SBR paperwork. When you get your stamp, pay a gunsmith to cut, crown, and thread the barrel.

Well just ordered this now we wait

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/ak47-receiver-childers-uf-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>32204735
I hate waiting for AK stuff to come in the mail. I'm still waiting on tracking info from multiple sellers on the Files to see if things I paid for Monday have even shipped yet. They could have been here by now but apparently they haven't been shipped it if they have I wasn't updated about it.

I wish I could just go into a stasis coma until mail came so I don't dwell on it.

>>32204299
I've never seen an underfolding 74, let alone a 74u. I have an Arsenal SLR104ur with a stamp pending. That's probably as good as you'll get with a factory built rifle that's basically good to go when your stamp comes in.

>>32204802
I know that feel, I'm waiting on some true blacks, a smooth top cover and a front sight tool. Waiting for my obzor to get shipped too. And Ironwood furniture I ordered two months ago. And some furniture from z_recto. I need to stop buying things

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>>32204802
>tfw ordered an StG from HMG 11.5 months ago and still waiting

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>>32204987
A I R S H I T

>>32204299
Yugo m92 and m85 are both under folders originally

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>>32204258
$700 NIB

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>>32204955
>true blacks, smooth top cover, and Obzor
wait a sec u tryin to be me

Gotta get a long collar brake to complete it then we can be brothers but you have to call me Nighthawk

>>32205250
OK. But you must call me Snickerpoo.

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Can anyone tell the origin of this barrel ?
> pic related

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>>32205357

>>32205243
600 like new, with 3 ((10)), 400 silver bear and can, and drago case :^

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>>32205369

>>32205399
Ayyy I remember you postin about that. Top stuff mang. was it yours that also hand the funky lookin handguard?

>>32205250
Maybe but you have to call me dragon.
I have a zig zag on it now, not sure if I want to drop even more money on a long collar to complete my autism.
I'm almost tempted to buy another 104 just so I can have a 74M clone and an AKS 74 clone without having to switch furniture if my mood changes

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>>32205432
Yea that Troy shit? Immediate take off. I still have the VFG tho, keep forgetting to list it for sale

I think the only dude who beat me on price was that cop with a 550 SLR106 and like 20-30 mags

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>>32204935
Underfolding 74s exist (I think the Bulgarians made them, but don't quote me on that) but there were no AKS-74U underfolders. The only underfolder SBR AKs were AKMSUs and PAPs.

>>32205575
That buttstock makes me uncomfortable...

>>32205575
I never see you in /arg/ anymore.

I want to build some AK pattern rifles, where do you recommend I get a parts kit from?

>>32205761
the year 2010.

>>32205761
Apex

https://www.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/5frsuz/you_asked_and_we_listened_were_putting_up_several/

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>>32205628
Good; it's probably one of the least comfortable buttstocks on the market. Extremely overhyped by most people who have one as a result of purchase justification.

>>32205745
I don't post there right now because I haven't bothered to get my AR fixed. Been spending all my money on gear, my AK, and other shit. I love my AR but I'm in no rush to get it fixed when my AK74 is cheaper to shoot and is just as practical.

Also, my court date hasn't been set yet so until I get that and win my case I can't really do anything unless I want to repair my rifle that was fucked up by a shitty shop on my own dime. I'd rather keep my evidence intact.

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>>32205903
You should submit those 4chan threads as evidence.

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>>32198045
I get that it is a soviet thing but the first aid kit on your gun and not your person is just plain goofy.

>>32205903
What makes it so uncomfortable for you?

>>32198045
What are the trigger plates for? Don't you already have one in your rifle?

I'm not in the know about what exactly a trigger plate does or what the Russian ones you guys bought are for.

>>32206034
well your rifle is going to be on your person pretty much all the time and in your hands half the time, besides it makes a much better cheek rest than the metal stock by itself.

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>>32205944
That sounds like it would go over well.

>>32206192
It's just an incredibly uncomfortable stock. It adds weight to the back of the gun, has a poor cheek rest that feels like it was designed for left handed people, and the buttpad itself is very, very small.

>>32205903
>my court date
wait what did you do

>>32206195
But what if your drunk and forget your ak?

>>32206192
He's a fatass, that's the issue.

>>32206240
Nothing, a local gun smith fucked my AR up to a ridiculous degree and they are refusing to pay me for damages and I'm unwilling to let them fix it after the quality of their work so I'm taking them to small claims court.

>>32206240
See: >>32205944

>>32206259
Ah, that sucks man. How much total did they screw you out of?

I don't see them winning if they're the ones who ruined it

>>32206264
Yeah I saw that but I didn't know he was taking them to court, I thought his court case was like he got busted for something

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>>32205903

>DDI AK

wew lad.

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>>32206276
About $1500, which is a good portion of the upper build.

>>32206297
Watch out, he's gonna suck DDI's dick even harder and post the same 4 images again!

>>32206223
I'll play devils advocate with respect to the weight. It's only a couple ounces more than an AK100 polymer folder with the cleaning kit inserted, and that's if you keep the cheek riser. AK74s are front-heavy enough that more weight in the back doesn't degrade the balance of the rifle and may slightly improve it.

Also, you use the version which mounts to the fixed stock trunnion and therefore rides lower than the original design. Since it isn't in-line with the receiver/barrel you probably have a more uncomfortable recoil impulse than the standard 4.5/5.5mm folder version.

>>32206298
Almost looks like a heat treated 80% flat receiver..

Who did the heat treat?

>>32203135
This is something I was curious about also.

>>32206297
wtf where is that vid from

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>>32206377
It's a Two Rivers Arms parts kit build, so I'd assume TRA did it.

>>32203135
>>32206474
They're not that expensive. Ones like the BP-02 can be had for like $60 new.

>>32206496
it looks heat treated properly, you can tell because it's blued after they dipped it (hot) into a salt-water solution (brine) like you're supposed to.

rust blues it and makes it harder at the same time.

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>>32206526
Yeah, Two Rivers Arms seems to be an incredibly faithful recreation company; I had never heard much of them before I bought my AK but they seem to make quality shit and I got mine at a very low price compared to what they go for new, so I'm glad I picked it up when I did.

They definitely know their shit when it comes to proper recreation builds.

I've got a little Russian digital flora pouch (like a little leg pouch thing that came with a magazine I bought) and I've noticed that that pattern works really well where I live (Pacific Northwest). How much would it cost for just a barebones uniform to wear to blend in when playing dress up with my slavshit innawoods? I don't want full on Ratnik plate carriers and helmet (well maybe helmet someday), just pants and jacket, maybe some boots.

Or, would just a gorka be easier and cheaper? Just wear it over whatever I've already got on. How thick are gorkas? Are they thick enough to be warm on their own over a thin layer underneath or are they thin enough to wear over already cozy outdoor clothes?

>>32206550
those rivets look a little sketchy

if you don't mind, field strip it, and take a picture of the inside (tail) of the rivets sticking into the receiver.

Also look at the rivet visible near the chamber area at the front trunnion, and the mag-well rivets.

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>>32202012
>most gun owners have either had an ND or will eventually have an ND in their life
Is that seriously the argument you're going to try and make?

>>32206498
Yes but are all the different brands rails the same size?

Or does it not really matter because the side rail adjust enough to fit them all?

I'm asking because I heard npap rails are of a different size.

>>32206552
KommandoStore has a Partizan suit line, I think. Not terribly expensive.

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>>32200527

check out the thread on akfiles, Molot says their working with time right now to bring in 23" RPK barreled vepr's.

>>32206491

Its Eric's son Kevin,he was in a vid but he deleted it.

>>32206744
>KommandoStore


no.

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>>32206193
As I supposed here >>32198338, I think he was referring to FCG retaining plates.

They replace the shepherds crook wire to retain the pins of the FCG.
>Comprende?

>>32200497
The DDI AK is just 60ish more though? I thought that was the cream of the crop premo AK all the kids where using these days?

>>32207304

Can those be installed with a full auto selector?

>>32207417
the pic shows a third pin

>>32207412
DDI is shit

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>>32206744
>Kommando Store
>Actually buying cosplay-tier Modox shit
Fuck that. Buy the good shit or don't buy at all, because if you buy Modox you're just wasting your money. I showed KS to my Russian buddy and he laughed at how much people are paying for Modox compared to how much he can get the real shit for.

>>32206552
If you just want a VKBO and some Faradei boots it'll probably be around $200-250 after shipping.

>>32207412
The parts kit and all American DDIs are actually cheaper than that. All American DDIs have having extractor issues currently, though. Their parts build guns are great, though.

>>32207512
>I don't own a DDI and I am a virgin
Fixed your comment, anon.

>>32207417
I don't think so.
Despite the previous anon's claims, it only has retention for 2 pins (plus the safety)

>Like you need it for your full auto.

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>>32207841
>Like you need it for your full auto.

No, I just don't want to modify almost all of my AK safeties when the shepherd's hook has seemed to do fine for me over the years.

>>32203725
I am willing to be they do, about 50% of the gun crowd is retarded, arrogant, impulsive, and ignorant.

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>>32205431
Germoney is my guess http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/04/field-guide-reading-kalashnikov-markings/

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>>32208427
Let me clarify why I think it is Germany; that fact that it has an E stamped on the barrel I am willing to bet that mark next to the 8 is part of a larger stamp but the stamp was either broken or applied in a hurry.

>>32207746
>Gold spray paint
>The handguard still has the same old shitty WASR handguards

>>32200551
I'm thinking of buying an SLR-104. Are they worth the price?

>>32201895
Because people can die when you fuck up. Bashing reinforces safety.

>>32200527
This

>>32206767
link?

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>>32195634
> Complying with un-constitutional laws.

Fucking pleb.

>>32195714
Doesn't loo as bad as it could

>>32206526
Everything you said is wrong. It's just a mishmash of terminology and processes in the wrong order and all fucked up. Please don't just lie on the internet. Do your research or keep your mouth shut.

>>32208478
I have a 104fr and a 104ur waiting in nfa jail. They're great rifles

>>32208496
I get that, but I was talking about anything in general.
I think a lot of gun owners are just insecure man childs

>>32208447
Guh after further research im pretty sure ita a yugo because of the locatio n of the hangguard notch

How autistic is it to want to put an airsoft GP-25 on my rifle? I have no love for airsoft, but we will never see the real thing. Just for shits and giggles

>>32206297
I hate it when people make fun of that kid. He didn't do anything wrong, he was just born.
And Eric has said he's a gun nut, so it's possible he's on /k/ like other guys his age.

>>32208744
Not at all.
If you want to put one of those on and run around your house or the woods and pretend to be a slav operator then fine, knock yourself out. Have a blast. Just don't let anybody see you doing it or you'll look like a fucking retard.

>>32208747
>He didn't do anything wrong,
>he was just born.
Yeah, that's what he did wrong. You realize people with that shit don't live happy normal lives, right? Eric should have had his wife abort tbqh, the kid will probably be dead before he's thirty years old

>>32194789
The little thing is a rubber stopper when in contact with the receiver when folded

>>32208931
7.62 is usually cheaper than 5.56 but a decent AK such as a WASR is going to go for what a cheap AR does, something like 600-700 if you can find a great deal. Most AK's that are worth buying are going to be over 700+.
protip: stay away from I.O. Century and Waffen Werks.

>>32208782
First of all its literally his wife's son, memes aside, he married into that situation. It was his choice to be involved.

Secondly abortion remains easily accessible for the main purpose to control the black and hispanic populations and less so to kill white thalidomide abortion babies. He'll get his chance when loldrumpf starts euthanizing the sick, don't you know that?

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/arg/ did not appreciate my OC.

Why is this?

>>32209326
Lol, no one even responded to you in /arg/. Here's a (you) since I feel bad for you.

>>32209326
lol rekt by>>32209338

>>32208975
What about norinco AK's? I heard the old ones were good but are the most recent ones also of good quality ?

>>32209263
>a tripfag
>being a faggot
Wwhat a surprise!

>>32209350
I'm pretty sure there are only old Norinco's due to the chinese import ban.
And they are good guns.

Are there any 4 piece Bulgarian muzzle device replicas that aren't worth it for 40 bucks!

>>32209350
There are no new ones in the USA via HW Busch

>>32209432
>this is what anon contributes

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>>32209491
U2

>>32209491
>this is what a guy who blogposts in /arg/ when he gets cheated on contributes

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Why can't this be a thing?

>>32209514
How the fuck would it fold without the trunnion

>>32209450
I'm not a burger. I can pick up a 2015 Norinco for a good price, windering if they're as good as the older ones.

>>32209263
desu, I admire his dedication and generosity.

>>32209514
The same way the regular wirefolders fold.

>>32209538
if you're not a burger then what are you? you can't be a leaf because all AK's are banned up there, except the VZ58 which is of course the best AK ever made.

seriously though, I have no idea about the quality of current Norinco guns. Just that the ones that were imported into the US before the ban were of good quality.

>>32209560
Meant for: >>32209532

>>32209491
>tripfag
>defends being a faggot by being even more of a faggot
I don't even care anymore kid

>>32209562
You realize there are a bunch of countries, like Switzerland, Finland, and a few others.

>>32209562
I'm from urop (Austria). Well thanks anyway, there's always so Arsenal AKs around here.

>>32209612
Is FPO going to save your guns from the EU?

>>32209630
We all sure hope so. And drive ottomans out too while he's at it.

>>32209538
From the word of some of our other Eurobros the new Norincos are not that good.
Poor finish and improperly crushed rivets were a couple of complaints from what I recall.

>>32209641
Hail Hofer XD

>>32209612
>Austria

Krikey! I thought you kangaroo fuckers couldn't have any guns.

>>32209759
Epic lmao

>>32209514
What is it?

>>32195634
Why hasn't anyone made a saiga-like hunting stock for standard AK? I imagine it wouldn't be difficult to relocate the trigger further to the rear in order to comply with Commiefornia's tantrums.

I just bought myself my first AK
Where can I get a shit-ton of ammo for cheap? I've seen places online that sell surplus 1000 rounds for like $200 but is there anything better?

>>32210048
>I've seen places online that sell surplus 1000 rounds for like $200

That's as good as you're going to get unless you hit some kind of sale or something.

also, ammoseek dot com is your friend.

also also, what AK did you get?

>>32198338
>>32201925
Wait so what does this mean

Zasta has plates or no?

>>32210071
I got a WASR
I was on a budget and although it's not pretty and has some faults, it just werks

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>>32210113
Nothing wrong with a WASR. Got one myself, and so do a ton of other people here.

Not yet.
The guy shipping them sent both of us both tracking numbers since he didn't know which one was whose.
One was tracking and the other is still in customs, and I didn't know if it was mine or his, turned out it was mine.

I'm sure his order will probably pop up soon.

>>32210132
Meant for
>>32210076

>>32210127
I read reviews and people have been saying the mag wobble is pretty bad.
Now I know it is an AK but is the mag wobble really bad on yours? Mine is on its way to the FFL by me and should arrive in like 2 days
I would imagine the wobble shouldn't be bad for California 10rnd mags though

>>32210141
>>32210132
We'll see, does it just show customs or extended customs release? Cause the latter basically means they stole your shit in my experience

>>32210187
Nah. It wobbles a tiny bit but not enough to affect how the bullets feed into the gun. If mag wobble is huge then it could affect how it feeds.
Bring a mag or two with you, show the guys at the gun store that they are empty, and explain that you want to test mag wobble before you accept it. They'll understand.
Also, not sure if all WASR's have these, but my 2015 one has tabs welded inside the mag well that provide some mag support in a similar way the dimples do on other AK's.

>california
You poor dumb bastard. Start saving your shekels so you can move the fuck out of there. I suggest Arizona.

>>32194649
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning
>ak 47 made out of a shovel
What kind of space magic is this

https://youtu.be/IvWp1CvEJmY

>>32210228
> start saving your shekels so you can move the fuck out of there
I'm working on it. I've got to stay here to finish up my degree then I'm heading out into a free state.
I want an Ak now before they get cucked by the January 1st laws over here so I can go out boar hunting. Last year my friend went out and got a good sized hog
I'm planning to go out with him next year. I was going to bring my nagant but it would be a pain to walk long distance through trees and stuff with it.

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>>32208463
What, you don't like the unfinished wood accent?

>>32209326
Probably has something to do with what is either a poor attempt at bait or a lack of knowledge when it comes to the Stoner gas system.

>>32210127
WASRs are alright for $400-550, but anything above that they're unreasonable. Their wood furniture is now garbage, they still have the occasional bent barrel meme, still have the canted sights, no magazine dimples. and poor finish they've always had.

>>32210291
>>ak 47 made out of a shovel
meant to say ak

>>32210216
Just that it's hit customs.
It'll show up, it was just a discussion me and Zasta had last thread about whose it was that was out of customs.

I've had stuff show up and it still "hasn't left customs".
I'm sure he's not too concerned about it just yet.
It's only been in customs since Tuesday.

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I traded my vz58 For this Nhm 91 from a fellow /K/ommando.Chinese furniture is currently off it.

Is there any hope of civilian AK107s coming to the US sometime in the next 4 years or is Russia still strict about exporting current military technology?

All I want is an RPK74M clone from Molot and an AK107 clone from Izhmash

>>32210298
For all the going on about bent/canted wasr's and never checking mine I was worried but nope sights are level and shoots to point of aim without adjustments only thing I cant check is the threads.

>>32210322
Yea, was just hyped to get it soon

I've waited up to a month and a half for shit before so it's nothing new really

>>32207746
>I am a virgin


We know, Nick. Go buy some more extractors.

>>32207746
>immediately spergs out when someone points out DDI is trash
Good ol' Nick

NEW THREAD
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>>32210435
"No"
>Tripfags starting threads early
How about you go suck start your AR

>>32209491
>look at me! I'm better than the default way to post on this board because of my speshul name!!

Tripfags who think they're better than everyone because they tripfag should be gassed

>>32210435
We've had a designated thread started for 137 threads

Kill your self

>>32210514
Well to be fair, Daewoo and Chimps made a couple in there when I was preoccupied and couldn't make the thread in a timely manner.

We'll use that thread when this one hits limit, because it's not that big of a deal to me and I hate having conflicting threads.

>And I'm really starting to run out of new ideas for Editions now, I hate reusing old ones.

>>32210619
It's about the premise tho, no one likes Leon. He's basically GC tier, especially now with him banned

>>32210298
From all that I've heard WASR's haven't had a problem with canted sights for quite some time.

>>32210636
Fair enough.
But like everyone else who's tried to make new threads, eventually they give up and I go back to it.
It was the same last winter, when some guy kept making new threads 50-60 posts early.
>He quit trying to keep it up after a couple weeks.
So as long as we have a thread, we'll use it and I'll post them when they give up.

>At least he posted the correct format and numbered the thread properly.

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