/akg/ AK General

>>32136586
Is it time for DDI a shit edition yet?

>>32136611
It's always DDI a shit edition.

How do you carry your mags /akg/? I have some chicom carriers and a SADF rig. Does anyone use the surplus mag pouches?

>>32136640
I bought a bunch of NOS East German mag pouches (very cheap) for general storage and transport to and from the range.

I use an AK SMERSH when the situation allows.

>>32136611
DDI owners wish they had bought a waffen works

>>32136867
I hopped on the WW train when they were 600. It had its first stoppage on me yesterday after about 600 rounds, failure to feed out of the Crapco mag.
I also bought a psak build kit and barreled receiver when they first came out... just have to find a front sight post and dust cover that fit and I'll be able to dump it

>>32136867
Ouch

>>32136906
Didn't those get recalled?

>>32136867
Speaking of, they've been pretty silent lately

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>>32136640


Bought myself a set of Russian black polymer furniture for swapping between tactical and classic. This should be fun

>>32137060
what is it about these that makes them so fucking ugly?

>>32136999
Preparing the sepukku ritual.

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>>32137060
I wish these had legit barrels, I'd love to have one but I don't want the burger barrel.

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>>32137096
They are pretty sexy imo.

>>32137101
the one he posted is a TGI import, you daft fuck.

I paid $800 for a fucking wasr 10

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>>32136586
dont forget to tell people to not ask questions that they could google on their own. we dont want any sort of ak tech support going on in here

>>32137116
to each their own

>>32137214
Good for you.

I paid the same for a SLR-107FR.

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>>32137257
>paying 700 for your SLR

kek

>>32136611

well the replacement extractor also failed, and the rifle failed the drop test, rob is sending the POS DDI back.

>>32137297
What happened with the drop test?

>>32137297
DDI is questionable as I've been saying forever. So glad Rob is proving me right. Looks like Arsenal and WASR are the only ones worth owning.

>>32137297
I can't find this on their blog or anything. Where is proofs?

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>>32137134
How do I identify these, friendo?

>>32137347
Short barrel.

>>32137257
Is that suppose to be impressive? I got into the AK game late

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>>32137309
I knew I did good

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I need some more AEK porn

>it's a "nobody's been able to beat a bunch of chronic liver failure romanians working with stolen soviet equipment that's half a century old" episode

>>32137287
Mine wasn't used. ;-)

>>32137371
Nice, funny how WASR went from shit reputation to one of the only worthwhile rifles in a matter of years

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>>32137378
WASR production needs to come back with dimples. Then I can have a Gypsy rifle with muh A E S T H E T I C S

>>32137370
Paying 800 for a WASR kek. You got taken.

>>32137297
Nick on suicide watch

>>32137389
>"""""""""""""used""""""""""""""

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YOU'VE BEEN VISITED BY THE COMFY COMMIE MONKEY! YOU WILL BE BLESSED WITH CHEAP SLAVSHIT, BUT ONLY IF YOU COMMENT "SLEEP TIGHT, COMFY MONKEY"

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>>32137421
>Sleep tight comfy monkey

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posting my pic from old thread. Need moar mags but live in a semi cucked state

>>32137408
>implying $800 is anything more than pocket change.

Sucks that i overpaid, but then again, it doesnt even dent my bank acct so its w.e

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>>32136640

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>>32137507
what belt?

>>32137507
Tac shield inner, 5.11 brokos outer

>>32137224
What mag is this? It looks like brown bakelite.

>>32137421
SLEEP TIGHT, COMFY MONKEY

>>32137551
100% airshit

>>32137492

If it makes you feel any better, there isn't anything else available that's new production and worth buying. Outside of WASRs it's entirely secondary market for the good rifles right now.

>>32137492
bringing how much money you make on an an image board. Nice, showing how insecure you are.

If that was chump change then you should of bought an Arsenal.

>>32137881
This, kek

>>32136586
What are some good handguards for the Yugo M92?

>>32137242
Good call. We are far too busy posting memes on 4chan to help the anybody out.

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>>32137583

but can it top

TWO ENTIRE HUNDRED PERCENT AIRSHIT

>>32138197
there is not enough time in a day to post memes on 4chan

Any recommendations on red dots?

>>32138238

what's your budget?
are you just gonna plink?
is it for innawoods?
are you planning on taking intensive rifle courses?
are you wanting to utilize the ak side rail?
are you looking for a weaver/pic mounted sight?

give us something to work with

>>32138238
nope get the fuck out. go google it you stupid cia nigger

>>32138238

>>32138267 These plus:
Do you want a proper western red dot or an A E S T H E T I C slav red dot?

>>32138269
Stop being butthurt nobody answered your stupid HURR DURR ISN'T 5.45 BANNED THO?? tier question

>>32138267
Well I just got an ultimak rail so I would like to utilize that. Budget is around $500.

>>32138303
Preferably western

>>32138319
>Western, $500
Aimpoint PRO, or Trijicon MRO is also great for the money

If you want to cowitness go for either an Aimpoint T1 or T2 (might need to save a little more) or people have good luck with Primary Arms Micro red dots and Bushnell TRS 25s if you'd rather buy a budget dot that isn't that bad. Keep in mind though that every time you remove your gas block to clean you will lose zero with the Ultimak.

>>32138319

>western

get out.

but seriously,with that budget you can get a decent pic/weaver belomo optic.

alternatively, save up another 150-200 for an aimpoint t1.

>>32138303
oh i though that was the appropriate way to handle people asking googleable questions

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>>32138319
Aimpoint pro

>>32138374
You don't need to spend money for a T-series Aimpoint Micro unless you plan to run NODs. The H-1 and H-2 will save you some money and, at least in the case of the H-1 vs the T-1, give you more brightness options too. H-1s can be had for pretty cheap too, at least relatively speaking. I paid $404 for each of my H-1s on clearance earlier this year.

>>32137881
For what reason? Just to say I have an arsenal? Lol

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>>32136586
Thinking about buying an AK

Should I wait a while to see if the Trump administration lifts the ban on Russian imports?

Also, what is the best website to look at for cheap reliable AKs?

>>32138488
Something of better quality.

>>32138488
You still got taken.

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>>32138488

>he doesn't have an arsenal

>>32136640
East German four cell mag pouch loaded with four steel Warsaw Pact surplus 30 rounders. Pair of PPS43 dog-collar slings connected end to end then connected to the loops on the back. This is 120 rounds, plus 30 in the mag in the gun. I am not sure how likely I am as a lone actor to find a tactical problem that 150 rounds of 7.62x39mm cannot solve. If I do, secondary is a S&W M&P .40 with two spare mags, totaling 46 rounds, counting the one in the chamber..

>>32137467
How many mags do you want for those socks?

>>32138712
>.40
Worthless

>>32138772
>fifteen in the box and one in the tube
>remains on the shelves months into every ammo panic, long after .45, 9mm, .38, and .357 are gone because "only cops use forties"
>Winchester White Box 180gr hollowpoints available at $20.77 for a box of 50 and they do well in every test I've seen online

mmkay

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>>32138772
This, kys nerd

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>>32138800
Why would i want to pay 20$ for a box of fifty. 9mm is like .20 cents a round
>pic related
>>32138818
Insult deflected, i have +6 safe space skill.

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>DDI AK AKOU is testing is already done for and being sent back

Where's that fat fuck Nick now?

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>>32138887
I was agreeing with your assessment of .40 being worthless and that this nerd >>32138712 should khs

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>>32138889
Counting how many shekels he lost.

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>>32138910
Fuck me im kinda intoxicated atm sorry.

>>32138887
Ahh that's some good stuff. I hope more
MEN M193 and 9mm come in this year.

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>>32138887
>slipping long, round MEN into your well-oiled chamber

>>32138889
Selling his DDI so he can buy an Arsenal

>>32138547
google it. nobody here has time to help you. we are all too busy

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>>32139011
Definitely, my sig loves it.

>>32139061
Your father must be ashamed....

>>32138889
Did the replacement extractor actually break? Because that's going to look really really bad for DDI if it did.

>>32138215
top kek

>>32137341
Video got put up early by accident and then taken back down. It'll be back up later this week.

>>32138887
$8/50 is for plinking ammo. This is defensive ammo, not plinking ammo.

It seems to be a pretty good performer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBi9t7S0Fpg

It's also a dollar a box cheaper than WWB 9mm 147gr hollowpoints at every Wal-Mart near me, and twelve bucks a box cheaper than WWB .45 hollowpoints at those same stores.

Of course, the Winchester White Box 9mm 147gr hollowpoint is a fairly good performer too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwqnAcuqgDY

But I forgot, /k/ hates .40.

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>>32137309
>Arsenal and WASR
>worth owning

Meh. Kit-build DDIs are still good.

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I need to stop posting the same old pics of my guns every thread

Have some AK74Ms in the field instead

>>32137375
Wtf is this?
It's beautiful

>>32139703
>faceted brake and bakelite (or maybe plum) pistol grip on an AK74M
neat

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>>32139183
I love how incredibly plummy that mag is. Every time I think I'm done buying mags for my 74 (which I still don't have in hand yet) I see new and unique mags that make me want to roll the dice again. The ride truly never ends.

>>32139723
You might also be interested to know that it's not a real AK-74M, not in the commonly understood sense. It's an older AK-74 that has been retrofit with an AK-74M folding stock and hardware. That one in particular is actually a fairly old AK-74.

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>>32139726

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>>32139755
>Dio
>Iron maiden

I like this guy

>>32138889
Did it seriously break again? I'm not finding another update on it.

when i see this rifle, i wa to say to de world :ALLLLAAAAAHUUUU AKBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!

>>32139755

>Dio

I like this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NHSuplgDPY

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Would an SBR Draco be a decent center console gun?

>>32139752
Looks like a late '83-mid '85 AKS-74, which would mean the grip is plum and not bakelite, assuming the grip is original and didn't get swapped like everything else.

>>32139752
Huh

Looking closer at it, I notice that the barrel components and how they're attached to the barrel are different than those on a 74M. Is that one of the tell tale signs of that?

>>32139723
I've got a folder full of relatively recent pics (mostly Ukraine, some Chechnya and earlier) of AKs in the field. Shall I dump? I don't want to shit up the thread of peoples actual OC pics or actually knowledge and information though

>>32139720
Looks like an HK AK. Like, if Heckler and Koch ever produced AK rifles, I think they'd look something like that.

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>>32139720
Russian space magic

>>32139720
Since nobody else answered, it's an A-545, which is an AEK-971 except with that stock, basically

>>32139867
You really can't go off of things that are so easily swapped out

>>32139884
Yes, but it's not only the lack of dimples, but also the fact that the FSB is completely different than what has been used on new-mfn 74Ms since the beginning. Also, the gas tube retainer lever is completely different than what has been used since early 1988. It is the milled version when the stamped version (current version) has been used since the start of 1988.

https://www.full30.com/video/5d10f13f343a8e55630c4b10626e7e99

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>>32137340
What is this? Whats it kitted out with?

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>>32140256
It's an a545.

>>32140305
Can we get them here in the states?

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>>32140315
...what do you think?

>>32140334
It looks fun, so probably not. Especially when its looking like the election could still be stolen from trump.

soooo how do i know which slr104 ur models dont have that gas regulator

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>>32139723
I thought it was ok till I stared at it for a while. Decided it wasn't my thing

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>>32136611

>tfw a buddy sold me his FEG AMD-65 for $500
>he used the money to buy a DDI

I kinda feel bad.

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>>32137421
SLEEP TIGHT, COMFY MONKEY

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>>32140889
Why? You got a good AK and your buddy got a good AK.

>>32136883
>motherfucker with a shotgun in the back.
Da fuq is he gonna do with that?
Go get em Syrian shock trooper

>found a dude 2 hours from me selling a P228 for 475

Kindof want

>>32140960
>extractor

>>32140478
Check your serial prefix, 54=2014, 55=2015 and so on.

If it's 2015 or later it has the restrictor.

If it's 2014 it may or may not have it. AC rifles do not, but most of the other prefixes seem to have them. Mines a 54 BE and I can't tell. I can stick a paper clip through into the barrel but isn't proof either way.

So what's with the sudden deficit of good AKs online? Is there anywhere that has SLR-107s on sale?

Anyone that has an AMD 65, what do you think of it?

>>32139396
What was wrong with it this time?

>>32141120
1/2

I think it's more a phenomenon of the post-2010 or thereabouts great increase in interest in AKs in the US. There were various reasons for this--guys coming back from the sandbox who were impressed with OPFOR's tools, various politicians threatening to ban them, etc. Anyway, this has created tremendous demand for AK rifles in the US.

WASRs are more than decent and still out there, but Cugir is a small manufacturer, and they're selling stuff to other parts of the world too, which is in flames right now--war in Ukraine, war in Syria, and on and on and on--which has increased demand for their products worldwide. Same goes for Arsenal in Bulgaria, same goes for Izhevsk, and so on. The Chinese used to sell fairly decent AKs to the US but import is now blocked.

So there is a market vacuum, which spendy imported parts kits lacking barrels cannot begin to fill. Enter manufacturers like IO, DDI, and even Century, rushing to market to cash in on the interest with products of... let us say, doubtful and uncertain quality at best.

I don't know how it is cheaper to use an expensive, borderline-exotic material like aircraft aluminum alloy to crank out acceptable and usable AR15 clones than to make AKM clones out of stamped sheet metal, but that seems to be where the market is headed.

Someone in the US just might crack the AK Mystery Code and figure out the proper alloy and heat treatment for critical parts like the front trunion, the extractor, and so on--if they think people care about it. Right now the market is flooded with shittastic overgassed AKs with garbage cast-iron trunions and extractors, and so on, that seem fine until they stop extracting fired cases (best case) or the too-soft trunion and bolt stretch and deform and peen in use until headspace exceeds safe limits and the gun goes KA-FUCKING-BOOM in someone's hands.

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I asked this in the last thread but feel asleep. What thinks akg of the new zenitco desert furniture?

>>32141273
2/2
A gun shop with attached indoor range near me is still selling IO AK clones, despite three (3) so far going ka-BOOM on their attached range in front of witnesses since this spring, because they can't get WASRs or Arsenals for love or money right now.

The demand for anything vaguely Kalashnikov-shaped is so great that people are buying Century RAS and IOs and rolling the dice because the distributors and the local gun shops just plain can't get anything better right now.

>>32141293

Is a WASR worth the $700 I'm finding them for now, or is it better to try and wait this out? SLR-107s are non-existent at any price-point I'm willing to pay.

>>32141302
You could always get a 104 for a fairly decent price.

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>>32140989
We already know the extractor was a fluke.

>>32141268
Entirely dependent on what you want out of a rifle: be it a rifle that had a one time flaw on a handful of guns at most, a rifle that has been perpetually shitty and is now overpriced, or a gun with a shitty finish, the same quality control problems as the shitty gun but without a manufacturer that's willing to pick up the phone when called. :^)

>>32141310
Apparently the second one broke too. Rob accidentally listed the video early but took it down

>>32141310
>get arsenal
>sights are crooked
>still doesn't squish itself to death after a few thousand rounds
At least you don't really need their CS, so it doesn't really matter.

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>>32141347
>Pay $1100 for a gun that's made for well under $300
>It's okay if the sights are crooked!
Arsensals are PTR-tier at offering a cheap as shit gun for way more than it's worth, but at least PTR can get it right. It seriously sucks that Arsenal is the only brand on the market when it comes to building side folding AK74s, because they definitely abuse their stranglehold on the market.

As for squishing itself to death, what gun are you talking about? Only gun I've seen squish itself to death is an NPAP.

>>32141378
The Century and IO guns, as well as DDI apparently. We'll see how true those claims are in a few days.

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>it's a brand stereotyping and brand shitposting thread

Outside of the big two (Wasr/Arsenal), what AKs are allegedly worth a shit?

Is Lee Armory, for example, any good?

Alternately, what can I look for to get a trustworthy AK?

>>32141436
It looks like others are going to be spotty. I looked into James Rivers before I settled on my Arsenal. Had a good reputation, looked at some of their guns and saw rivets pushed way too far in to the point of cratering the receiver. If you're going to buy any kit build, inspect inspect inspect.

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>>32141436
>S T I L L asking about Lee fucking Armory

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>>32141378
>the increasing butthurt of paying 700$ for a DDI when a arsenal was 300$ more.

>>32141436
DDI kit builds are pretty solid. All the people hating on DDI are referring to their all-American models.

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>>32141482
>yfw no one is willing to consider the used market for AKs

>>32141310
>the extractor was a fluke.

>5k test is already over with the rifle failing shortly after 1k rounds

DDI is no better than IO. Keep defending your shit gun.

>>32141540
>Used slr107 1400, cheapest on the listings
>used, respectable kit builds that are no longer offered going for 400+$ more than they were new
>only used AK I've EVER seen locally was a century underfolder of some sort for 700$
I wonder why.

>>32141540
>tfw willingly paid $900 for a used Egyptian AK a few months back after passing over them for $400-$500 for years
Even the used market is going up

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Shot my SLR104 for the first time today
Tack driver at 100 yards on a 2/3rds man size steel plate
Stock folded I could one or two hand it and get 30 rounds on the plate from 30 feet.
At 200 yards with no optic it got dicey

But ho-lee-fuk is it smooth, the recoil is less than my AR.

Definitely my new favorite, next step is PLUM and an optic

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>>32141378

I like my Arsenal rifle
As for cost of manufacture vs retail, welcome to literally every manufactured good ever made you fucking retard

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>>32141540
>tfw build milsurp kits

pic related, Bulgarian mithril steel bolt, not even a primer ring after 2k rounds of 7N6

>>32141826
Kits are getting stupid expensive for the nice ones lately, but that might just be Gunbroker. I saw a Russian kit like the one I have going for 300% what I paid for it in 2014.

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More DDI problems flowing in on top of robs receiver failure and 2 broken extractor.


http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288355

>>32141120

sold out until mid 2017

>>32137306

the vid was up for like 5 minutes, it was uploaded on accident, rob says on akfiles that it will go live thursday.

Long story short, the new extractor from ddi broke as well, rob then preformed a drop test and the gun no longer functioned, rob thinks the receiver bent somewhere but couldnt find where.

>>32141738
>At 200 yards with no optic it got dicey
Depends on how it's zeroed and what you have the rear sight set to. You should have no problems at 200 yards though.

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>>32139327

the receiver broke too!


somebody update the trashcan to include I.O and DDI.

>>32141310

the new extractor failed, and so did the receiver.


final count I.O 1666.......DDI.....1259.


I.O>DDI

Whats this about Robski having more problems with the DDI rifle again?

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>>32141310
>Desperately defending DDI this much
lel

>>32141898

his replacement extractor broke on top of the original, then the receiver failed in the drop test.

>>32141907
Got any links/proofs?

>>32141834
Oh yeah kits are a little high these days, probably still worth it considering they were built on original soviet tooling with good steel.

Not sure I would go for Russian, Polish and Bulgarian are good shit.

>>32141912

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287410&page=3

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>>32141907

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>>32141293
Not to mention that some shops intentionally stock shit-tier AKs to push customers toward a "better quality rifle" (more expensive)...

I've seen people on multiple occasions get "salesman'd" into some snowflake AR when they asked for an AK; customer saw what they had, did a 180 about to leave the store...

>but wait!
>check out this badass (insert tacticool gun)
>it's only double the fucking price you wanted to pay for an AK!
>babby's first AK turns into a SCAR
>goes broke paying off high-interest credit card he used to get it instead of paying cash for the rifle he wanted
>never ends up with an AK and eats ramen noodles for 6 months due to this
>shitposts on akg about how he "dodged a bullet" almost buying an AK

>>32141738
tight '74s have less recoil IMO than an AR.

but they aren't supposed to run tight, they will loosen up.

>>32141292
Any thoughts at all?

>>32141292
I don't really have a reason for it.

I would use the side rail for my optic, and a gas tube or barrel mount for a light.

>>32141917
I went Russian for my -74 because I'm autistic as fuck about the build I'm doing.

If I ever do an AKM, it'll probably be Polish or (if a decent one ever gets made) American. I don't have the time, money, or patience to do a Tula AKM build at the moment, though I'd probably make time for a Tula AKS-74U kit if one were to fall into my lap.

In the meantime I'll be satisfied with my Izzy 74 and go chase other shit like a SCAR-17 and FAL before the Democrats rear their fucking heads again.

>>32141378
Oh shit my 700 shekel DDI is better then an Arsenal.

>>32139525
>he bought a 104
>implying you don't check all AKs for cant
Lol.

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>>32139865
yeah, you don't need a stock in the vehicle though

>>32141310
>the extractor was a fluke
I got bad news

>>32141850
With how finicky the American forum orientated AK market is, DDI took some huge risks. Modern materials analysis, literally just copying a 60 year old design, I thought he might have a chance, but this is looking bad.

The learning curve, tooling and jigs, potential price pressure from kvar, Dave has a lot on his plate and for what? I just don't get it. Rifle dynamics has its niche, desert tech is actually inventing something, DDIs model is crazy IMO. I mean at least desert tech could pitch their rifle to military/Leo, hold patents, maintain control of their margin.

Is the "All Murican AK" that potent of a meme?

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>>32141482
About 360-400, more like it. That's a DDI parts build with over a brick of ammo.

>>32141534
Or their Chinese shotguns.

>>32141560
>Company that does heat treatment on extractors fucks up
>Some retard grabs the wrong bag of extractors and starts throwing them in guns
DDI is partially to blame, but the extractors weren't built by them. Their issue is not having caught this shit sooner.

>>32141761
>Welcome to every manufactured good ever made you fucking retard
Yeah, because 90% of companies sure do make almost four times profit per good on everything they manufacture, right? Sounds reasonable to nobody.

>>32141850
Watching that 2nd video and that bolt definitely isn't cycling right. Wonder what's causing the issues.

>>32141905
I'll defend their parts builds to the death because mine is great and I'll give the new rifles the benefit of the doubt, but the more information that is coming out about them the worse they seem. I'll wait to see if people are making shit up about the new AKOU video, but if it's shit there then it's dropped as far as I'm concerned.

>>32143162
Once again, unless you can produce the latest video by Rob Ski that was supposedly listed early then taken down, then I'll wait to see whether or not they break again.

I love how murica s struggle with Slav magic. It bewilders the murican. It's so shitty, but it works! Murican can make better, better steel, better processes, better service, better machining. All slav magic is deleted, AK doesn't work, murican AK a shit while being """"better"""" in every way that the eternal murican can conceive.

>>32143343
See:
>>32141924
Rob confirmed it.

>The new video is is up on the AKOU. The testing is over according to Rob Ski, and the rifle is going back.

>I have no idea how that video went up ahead of the schedule. I'm on the road and will be back on Wednesday. Video is scheduled to go live on Thursday, so i can stay engaged with questions and etc.
I will start then separate thread and we will go from there.

>>32143343
You're putting a lot of stock in the hopes that the phantom video isn't real

>>32143343
>who the fuck sells a brick 5.45?
A slr104 is worth the extra money.

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>>32143369
Well, seems like quite the specific title to be fake. I want to watch the video myself still but I have no problem from this point on believing that the DDI all American AKs are shit. Guess the American-built AK meme is true.

>>32143375
Not necessarily putting hope into it, just don't want to believe it's exactly as said, but Rob has acknowledged it and there are links to it on AKFiles (even if they have been taken down) so I guess it's true and DDI has screwed the pooch the same as with their Chink shit Saiga. Oh well, should've stuck to parts builds.

>>32137309
B-but muh Interarms...
Why does nobody remember Interarms?

>>32143390
All DDI did was continue the waffen works legacy of hit or miss guns.

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>>32143389
Depends on what you want the gun for. I'm still glad I paid $700 for my DDI over $1100 for an Arsenal with the only advantage being the side folding stock. Would I like a side folder? Yes, but I'm not going to pay $400 for something that would've been aesthetic only as I would've thrown an optic on right away.

Also as far as the term is used in my local area, a brick is the largest single-box round count for a type of ammo, so basically anywhere that sells bulk 5.45 should have it in bricks/crates/tins/whatever.

>>32143410
>welll...
Arsenal has the side folding stock, factory bulgy build, chf barrrel, and general lack of functionality issues (slr104). Im sure your ddi is fine because your round count, but it is inferior to any arsenal (slr104).

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>>32143446
The CHF and side folding stock are the only two things there that have any benefit and even then they wouldn't benefit me, so why would I pay extra? Factory Bulgy builds seem to be pretty terrible when it comes to QC with canted sights and all that shit as compared to my DDI which came out of the box with everything properly placed and aligned. My DDI has several thousand rounds through it without a single issue, so where are my "functionality issues"? It's not inferior to your rifle in any way. when it comes to realistic functionality, no matter how much you want to justify that price.

>>32143390
I truly hope they work out the kinks. Goddamn

>>32143605
Still a shitty kit build by a shitty builder.

Couldn't even outlast the IO.

>>32143605
How would would they not benefit you?
I mean god dam you put a 300$ folding stock on the rifle and you live in florida. More corrosion protection the better. Like i said im sure your rifle is fine but the slr series will always be better.

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>>32143627
Same. I really like mine and I wish they could produce the same level of quality from the factory, but these all American AK47Ss seem like they've got a number of really, really bad flaws.

>>32143666
I've got a fennocited barrel and a KG gunkote finish, how would anything you listed benefit me? My finish is superior to the Arsenal finish in both strength and corrosion resistance, so explain to me again how Arsenal's one dump and gone finish would be better.

You've yet to explain how it is realistically better than my AK. CHF is the only without-a-doubt benefit but even then it's not necessarily a realistic one because AKs are not group-shooting rifles to begin with.

You paid more and you got more assuming you keep the rifle bone stock. Otherwise your benefits fall to the wayside.

>>32143701
KG Gunkote. Meme tier. It isn't cerakote so it isn't jack shit.

>>32143701
What does chf have to do with groups?
I literally increase the life of the barrel and resistance against corrosion. I bet you have wore down your fennocite coating in your barrel from all the bimetal jackets and have exposed steel in your barrel. Now susceptible to swamp and ocean.

>>32143394
Even interarms had heat treat issues in the beginning

>>32143852
Yeah, in the beginning, but they're pretty much forgotten now that they're actually good.

>>32143627
Real talk, if DDI rifles were at least on par, would you buy one within the next year or two?

>>32136586
>edgy writing
>fagpul mag
>crapco mag
>worst Korean mag
>chinkshit chest rig
I don't like you

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>>32143771
I've got a cerakoted gun and a KG Gun Koted gun and my cerakoted gun has more wear in areas of movement than my KG Gun Koted firearm.

>>32143845
I'm getting CHF and chrome lining mixed up. CHF gives rifles a great barrel life (assuming you have a select fire weapon, but otherwise it's not going to produce a massive difference) and chrome lining is the one that increases accuracy with a slight decrease in barrel life.

My barrel is perfectly fine with no rust inside of it. Hash your stupid bets elsewhere.

DDI WTF!!

https://youtu.be/SC6soWhJ6Xk

>>32143974
Chromed lined barrels are less accurate and have more longevity.

My 54r Vepr hurls brass into the next county when I shoot it as well as putting a nasty dent in the side. Is there any way to stop this, or at least tone down the ejection? I'd rather not rain brass four benches down from me.

>>32144032
can't be helped, i stick to shoot steeling casings due to that reason.

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>buy yugo ak 3 years ago
>$549
>go to gunshops to look at Black Friday deals
>same ak $800+
What the fuck happened to the ak market? AR's are cheap and AK's are expensive now what the fuck. Even shitty ass old wasr aks are 500-600

What did I miss /k/

>>32143930
I wouldn't buy one because that's just not what I'm about, but I would start recommending them to people looking for an AK.

>>32144098
pls read
>>32141273

>>32144098
Sandy Hook ensuring every gun owner has an AR but not an AK yet, Syrian Civil War, War in Donbass.

Demand drives prices. The end.

>>32144144
Fucking nice read thank you

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I'm sure the question has been asked and answered before, but why can't Americans make a soils fuckin production ak. I know that there have been failures in the AR market just because what's the way of the world, but is it just more noticeable with the ak community because of how small it is? This is in contrast to the ar market where they'll get drowned ot because of the number of quality options and the overall size.

>>32144301
Because they don't know the magic slab formula and they think cutting corners you can still have the same results.

>>32144301
The secret of how to make quality AK's from literal garbage has been long lost since all of the soviet factories have shut down. America is pretty much starting from scrap trying to find good material for making new production AK's but since they aren't made from garbage the prices will be ridiculously priced. The US should have done an operation paper clip to secure the secret of gypsy ak's

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>>32144301
It's not Americans in general so much as the relatively small outfits which are attempting this problem. Making a large volume of firearms isn't easy and it doesn't help that they are stamped (look into the history of how Russia and other countries struggled with it). I'd chalk up most of the failures we've seen to logistical problems. If everything was produced in-house with adequate QC there's no reason it wouldn't work out, but setting up the tooling and production lines is a major operation. Even the US doesn't seek a domestically produced solution when they want to arm foreign allies. It's either surplus or contracted through a firm such as Arsenal (as they have done with Iraqi military in the past).

>>32143930
Real talk, IF they fix their problems with things like extractors (and an East German surplus extractor is a $15 part), I like the configurations they're offering. The triangle folder + gas block front sight rifles, in particular, give me an irrational gunboner out of all proportion to anything I actually need and would especially love one in 5.45. IF. If they get their shit together and make them right. I'm imagining one with the barrel cut down to 14.5" or so and a flash suppressor pinned and welded on to bring overall length up to 16", to fit in a tennis racket case.

>>32137214
atleast you didnt spend $700 on a IO ak...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d99UPV-vtbc

These DDIs are almost turning out as bad as PSAK47s.

>>32144652
I thought PSA got their shit together and got guns that work and don't beat themselves to death.

The main problem with PSA AKs is that they only make them in batches of six or so at a time. They advertise them on their web page as "available" and twenty seconds later they're all gone.

>>32138772
Says the worst Korea trip at.

>>32138818
Tripfags must go back.

>>32139420
Seems only tripfag morons hate it. Ignore the
Ignorant.

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>>32144972
Do you have any idea what the history of .40 S&W is?
It's a direct descendant of the nerfed 10MM FBI loads which were made because women and weaker men couldn't handle them. They shortened the case as these weaker loads didn't need the volume and then called it a day.

.40 S&W is a disgrace, and the kind of result you get when you have design by committee on top of bureaucracy and inclusiveness while trying to meet an unrealistic requirement.

If you have to own a firearm chambered in that round, I hope it's a USP. More for you, I guess.

>>32144972
I see what you mean.
>>32145070
I see day/k/are is here. Isn't this a school day, kid?

>>32145070
Actually .40 caliber is a direct descendant of the old Centimeter cartridge developed back in the 1970s by Whit Collins and Jeff Cooper, as an attempt to make a cartridge whose caliber began with "4" that was compact enough to fit in existing 9mm platforms of the day, that would improve significantly on 9mm terminal ballistics. The 10mm is a lengthened Centimeter. The .40 is also slightly longer than the original Centimeter, having been designed to use short-ogive bullets of truncated cone geometry, which was felt back in the 1980s to be conducive to more efficient and reliable expansion in hollowpoint bullets.

But thanks for playing. Here's your consolation prize: a wall of dicks for you to climb. Your mom's at the top.

>>32145213
>posting someone else's pictures

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>>32145231
[citation needed]

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>>32145248
>not posting any pictures
my OC is shite and I'm not satisfied with it, but here you go

been working on my upper body strength so the SLR-104 with triangle doesn't fatigue me as much (and it's no longer a bother). i still drool over the soviet laminate 74 stocks

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>>32145274
Remove the barrel, no longer any need to get stronger. Work smarter not harder

>>32145433
You're convincing me to krink just a little more every time you say that.
I'll keep my eyes open for deals. Kind of want a SLR-107FR more atm. The 107 would also balance better because same OD but larger ID in the barrel.

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I heard you guys like bakelite

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>>32145274
>fatigue from an SLR104

Buy a battle rifle and practice

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>>32145274
Good on you. Whats you lifts looking like ?

>>32145433
You could always carry more ammo.....

>>32145900
>those shades

Dubs compel me to ask. When you hold an AK in your hands, do you get feels that you don't understand?

Are there any options for replacing an Arsenal left folding stock without machining/welding? I have an SLR107FR with a NATO length buttstock, but it is still shorter than I would like (6'2" with long arms, always shoot collapsible ARs at full extension).

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>>32146029
Everytime

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>>32146040
Any of the soviet stocks that are 4.5mm, a GP-25 pad, an AR stock adapter

>>32146089
Thanks, had been looking at the press fit part and ignoring that it could be disassembled at the hinge pin. Now that I see there are about 9k options, will get the GP25 pad while I sort it out. Probably end up with a rifle length ACE skeleton, I like that on my AR.

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>>32145840
First semi auto rifle I bought was an FAL a couple years ago. It feels light now. Definitely good for practicing reloads and clearing rooms, have to be extra conscious of barrel. I love it. Someday I might put together an izzy light barrel.
>>32145900
Haven't really started messing around at the gym or doing proper lifting. My routine is based on things I can do without equipment.
mostly for core:
>10x crunches (add weights if desired)
>30s side plank left
>10 push-ups
>30s side plank right
>repeat from the top
Idea was from scooby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOvo2PDmL0E

I do chin ups on my shower curtain rod in the morning and at night as well. It's screwed into studs and supports my weight with ease.

>>32146392
You have a kickass shower curtain rod if you can do pull-ups off it. Also you'll get much faster results in a gym with weights instead of just doing calisthenics.

>>32141560
>1 part breaks on new gun
>IO explodes and loses headspace

- t. IO owner

>>32136586
Alright guys I am looking for an AK. Was thinking an arsenal as I'm tired of the hit or miss quality of century (they are fun plinkers but not tools)
What should I go for? I like 7.62X 39.
Never had a sidefolder and am unsure about stamped vs milled.
Anyone have any experience in this?

>>32146392
Get in the gym man, real progress comes from lifting free weights.
>bench
>deadlift
>squat
>barbell complexes
>ect..
Those lift will increase you load bearing capacity.

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>>32146472
>>32146516
Thanks for the advice, I'll do some research and see what routine would be good for me.
>>32146488
WASR rifles are a good option. Note that Century only imports them and does not manufacture them. They're made by Cugir in Romania, an old standby.
If you don't mind the jump in price, Arsenal is the way to go.

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>>32146488
DDI kit build

>>32146488
Slr107 when they come back in stock. Thank me later. I love mine.

>>32146843
Does goat asshole feel different during the winter because of the cold ?

>>32137096
everything in front of the bolt carrier

>>32146891
I wouldn't call your mom a goat but yeah it does

>>32146969
Haram, you slime cant touch suck fine pork.

>>32140976
You can see the uncertaincy in his face

I'm buy either a vepr or a arsenal ak I have 4000 to spare which is best

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Real talk...

>>32147248
I need to replace that balsa wood ASAP.

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Can you convert an AKM rear trunnion with a tang to a 100 series side folder on a saiga 12?

I want to convert from a figure 1 to a 2 or 3

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Ok /akg/
Completely new to AKs and I'm wondering: what is the best AK derivative for the price right now for a poorfag? I've always loved the look of these rifles and am interested in getting one.

>>32147452
wasr

>>32147452
Budget?

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any cyber monday AK deals?

>>32147577
600-700

>>32137116
>gen 1 nv with a muzzle brake
>not a flash hider

Good thing I like blind chicks.

>>32144032
You could file the ejector but other than that not really much to do.

>>32142971
Is there any specific ammo or handloads that work best in it?

>>32147593
Post 2008 WASR 10

There are a few variants in the price range that are just as good but the WASR is the most common and the closest to an actual AKM barring the dimples.

Find a WASR 10 in your area, either in a shop or on armslist and inspect it

Check for Rust, make sure the barrel isn't shot out and make sure the gas block and front sight base are not massively canted.

>>32147452
i'm in the same boat as this guy. I was going to buy a PTR91 for around 769 but the sale ran out and it jumped to 900.

What' the best ak around 800? Want something that will last ages.

>>32147643
Seeing alot of century arms AKs. Are they any good?

>>32147669
>What' the best ak around 800?

DDI

>>32147677
no personal experience, but i've heard nothing but bad things about the century arms RAS ak's

>>32147683
Oh shit
What's bad about them?

>>32147677
Century has a long record of being hit or miss on their imports

They have improved quite a bit at least on their WASRs since 2008

I am hearing much of the same hit or miss reputation that century is known for with their 100% US made AK line

>>32147689
James Yeager has supposedly blown up two of them in his classes

AKOUs RAS lost proper headspacing after 5,000 rounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7eK2SmGYM

Some people however claim theirs are fine.

So again, Century products for the most part are hit or miss and it seems their US made AK line is a miss with hard use.

>>32147785
I'd rather not have my rifle become the new glocknade meme.
Is this a good deal? I've heard mixed things about CF, but this sound enticing for the price.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/romanian-ak-7-62-x-39semiautowasr-10

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>>32146392
>fal is light
>ak is heavy

diserd pls

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>>32147822
>Is this a good deal?

In the current market I'm going to say yes.

700 is pretty much the going rate right now, they may come down again after market saturation post Trump inauguration and once the Syrian conflict settles down and they start coming back into the country again but I don't see them going back down to 500 and who knows how long it's going to take for them to start coming in again

I would check your local private market and if you don't see any better deals go for it.

>>32147822
It's literally 150 more than Brownells was selling WASRs for last week. Have a little bit of patience, and keep your eyes open. You'll find a way better deal by next week, if you look around.

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>>32147681
Lel

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If anyone has a lot of info about the polish Circle 11 plant, I'd love to know more about my AK kit.

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Goodbye, Triangle.

Thinking about installing a retaining plate and non-slotted safety on my Yugo.

1) Red Star Arms, Krebs, or Tapco? From what I've heard RSA is drop in while Tapco needs fitting and the Krebs is twice as much as the RSA while looking identical.

2) Can Yugos use a standard AK safety selector? I know some parts interchange just fine between M70s and AKMs but I can't really find reliable information on whether or not a standard selector will fit an M70, and surplus M70 selectors are MIA everywhere I look. I hate the way the notched safety looks.

>>32148204
Ew why did you not just get a ar15 ?

>>32138547
I'd just get on gunbroker. I am honestly not holding my breath when it comes to sanctions being lifted.

Despite what people reeee about on here the AMD56s and 63s that classic has are bretty good if you want a sub 700 am that is decent.
If you can find a milled AK63d underfolder by century mines pretty good if you don't mind an underfolder.

If you can swing 800 I would get a MAK 90 honestly

>>32148204
Which light mount is that?

>>32148204
What the fuck is wrong with you?

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>>32148204

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Was looking for gift ideas to put on my Amazon wishlist. Not gonna lie, I chuckled lightly.

Chimps, if you need a 74M long collar brake for your clone, a guy on the Files just threw one up for sale. $90 shipped from Taiwan.

>>32148214
1. I have the Red Star Arms in both my Yugos. It is drop in, and works great.

2. Yugo safeties lever are smaller than other AK safeties. The detent is in a different spot than standard safeties, so they won't line up to the notches in the receiver.
>At least according to the info I've found.

I'll look around and see if I can turn up a non-notched yugo safety for you, but your best bet would be to post a WTB on the Files.

>>32148686
I already have a couple, but thanks for letting me know. Shipped from Taiwan is kinda sketch

>>32148686
Chimps has multiple and that guy from Taiwan has been trying to sell his for a while now. $90 is on the pricey side. I've bought one well used long collar for $50 shipped and one borderline NOS with teeny tiny scuffs for $75 shipped.

>>32147430
Anybody?

>>32148313
Because ARs are for faggots.

>>32148346
Echo93 MK65 light mount.

>>32148572
>>32148546
Triangle is too short for me with the optic.

>>32148854
>ARs are for faggots
>so I'll buy a .223 AK and make it as similar to an AR as I possibly can
Denial!

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>Made in Egypt stamped Maadi magazine for sale on the Files
I don't """need""" it but I really want it
why must I be poor

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>>32148866
I fail to see an issue here. :^)

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>>32148866
>knocking 5.56 AKs

I'd have a 7.62x39 AK if I had a place to shoot it.

>>32136586
>Purposefully buying old furniture for a brand new rifle and carving dumb shit into it
AK fags will defend this

>>32148896
>>32148900

That's different though, you guys have got legitimate military issued 5.56 AKs (the Beryl and Galil) and a normal old SLR106, not an SLR106 all tacticooled out and trying to become an AR

>>32137421
Sleep tight, comfy monkey.

>>32148866
I have no quarrels with 5.56 aks but that is hideous.

>>32148900
>Being this fragile

He's not knocking 5.56 AKs you moron.

If you don't like AK ergos and aesthetics and want a 5.56 gun, why not get an AR?

Except>>32148854, the owner of >>32148204, literally said
>ARs are for faggots
while also making his 5.56 AK as similar visually and ergonomically to an AR as possible.

Are you this stupid?

Am I being rused?

>>32137309

The only good DDI rifles are their old Hungarian parts kit builds. Everything else they make is trash.

>>32148892
>$225
That's pretty fucking steep.
I hate the "collectible" mag market sometimes.

>>32148900
>I'd have a 7.62x39 AK if I had a place to shoot it.
>if I had a place to shoot

what did he mean by this

Is 275 for an 8x42 Belomo POSP a good deal? I'd probably just resell it since I don't want an 8x POSP

>>32148969
>TFW $20 bakes but shipping from Russia is shit

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>>32148944
>If you don't like AK ergos and aesthetics

I never said AR stocks look better than Triangles. I like how Triangles look more hence why I had a triangle stock 106 instead of the normal stock but when it comes to choosing between aesthetics and function I am going to go with function.

I'm not alone in this.

>>32148932
This guy got the point

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>>32148969
It's definitely the most I've ever seen for one, and quite a bit more than the next expensive Made in Egypt marked mag I've seen

Still though, if what he says about it's condition is true then I don't want to see his pics because it'll make me covetous. Sometimes I have a hard time resisting to blow money on steep priced things simply because the pictures sell me and I get impatient waiting for the next to show up for sale

>>32148983
Who the fuck cares? That's not an AK scope.

>>32149064
>posp
>not an ak scope

What did he mean by this?

>>32149005
Eh. Bakes are pretty common, although $20 is a decent price.
I'm talking more about $400+ FDL mags, $500+ Chink 100 rounders, and the like.
People see garbage pricing on gobroker and think it's the norm.
Mags are meant to be used, not sit in plastic and look pretty.

>>32148932
>all tacticooled out

Scope, light, and a stock change is 'tacticool' now?

>>32149005
If you're buying from Russian $20 a mag is 2 or even 3x what you should be paying

>>32149081
8x42
>AK scope

This guy's an idiot.

>>32149113
I didn't realize that certain magnifications stopped working if you let it touch an AK

I was offered an AK9 mag for $400

>>32149085
I get what you mean, I plan on using and abusing the bakes I get. Autists can cry all they want

>>32149137
I dunno if I could spend that much money on a mag I can't even use. I'd be tempted though

>>32149102
You can't buy from Russia, anon. I have a guy over there who buys them over there and I pay a small fee to him for the service. $20 is still much less than what they go for here

>>32149157
>>32149137
Build an AK in 9x39
Handload 9x39
????
Get killed by Spetsnaz