/akg/ AK General

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What are the best options if I want a marksmanship oriented AK? (Note: I know AR15 is better for this, already got one.) I've seen discussion of so called 'precision' AKs before. What sort of barrel length, caliber, optics, manufacturer, etc? What sort of effective range could I expect to get?

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Stamped m76 abomination reporting in

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>>32046050
>barrel length
Not that relevant if 7.62x39 since it burns efficient. I would assume 5.45 is the way to go. Unless we are throwing 54r in the mix.

Cheapest AK that isnt shitty IO? Been looking at either a draco on atlantic or an AMD63 on classic, but I don't like the look of the 63.

Sold my wasr last year for 800 and now i want another AK, why the fuck are WASRs as pricy as DDI now?

Looking at a budget of 600 shipped.

Didn't get an answer last thread.

>>32046106
WASR is pretty much as cheap as you can go for reliability. You can roll the dice on a PSAK-47 if you'd like since AKOU got one to pass the 5K test, but the AK market has gotten way more expensive in the last couple of years due to a change in focus to military contracts for most companies. You can thank Obama, the Russians, and Jihad Joe for that.

>>32045945
Did you know Century's WASRs are shit? Proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7eK2SmGYM

>>32046106
AMD's have butter soft barrels that shoot out in like 2 mags.
WASR or anything else built on an imported parts kit is your best bet for a budget AK. Stay away from anything US made other than maybe PSA's AK.
Watch the AKfiles, ARFcom, and slickguns for deals. And don't be scared of 1 off or home builds. I find people often put more effort into them than whoever assembles WASR's in bumfuckistan for less then minimum wage.

Prices are dropping like a rock since trump won. Never been a better time to buy buy buy.

>>32046178
That's not a WASR.

>>32046178
>centuries wasrs are shit
>posts ras47 test

This is what it feels like to gag on DDI dick

>>32046219
That looks like ass

>>32046209
And the DDI AK that failed wasn't one of their kit builds.

>>32046221
I'm just showing you what you sound like.

>>32046178
>comparing WASRs that aren't built by century to the RAS-47 that are
>implying that's the same thing as comparing two rifles made by DDI
wew

>>32046241
>And the DDI AK that failed wasn't one of their kit builds.
Both are still built by DDI though you silly faggot.

>>32046219
>hurrr it's technically a pistol
Bruv

>>32046254
At least DDIs don't have canted sights like Arsenals and WASRs do.

>>32046219
nothorrible/10

>>32046269
I'd rather have a slightly canted FSB than extractors breaking, egged barrel pin holes, and a myriad of other problems DDI rifles have had.

>>32046269
My Arsenal is canted slightly but will still put down great groups. DDI will literally not function. Same priced guns

/akg/ is lacking in terms of general knowledge posting

>no builder tier list
>no exploded blueprint(s)
>no how to ak

/akg/ I want YOU to prove YOU are better than /arg/

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I've been legitimately toying with the idea of picking up a krink sometime over the next few months (well, applying for a cuck stamp to get it all started in the next few months).

I'm on the fence if I'd rather pick up a Russian kit and have it built or just pick up a SLR104UR and have it cut down. A kit would be more neat with it being original Russian military but the SLR would be cheaper (~$1200 for the rifle + $200 stamp + however much it'll cost someone to cut and recrown) and seemingly the better buy for the money considering it's new production.

I don't know. I really want one but it'll be my first step into NFA and that alone is it's own deal.

Alright I've been looking for reasonably priced parts kits for quite sometime and this is the only thing in stock that's not outrageously expensive.
https://www.apexgunparts.com/m70ab1-parts-kit-with-new-us-barrel.html

Is this actually a good deal? I'd ideally like to get it together by thanksgiving so friends+family can play with it

>>32041284
if I wanted to carry a hammer to use a knife I'd rather just carry a hammer

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>>32046251

This. Holy shit dude. Don't ever talk to me or my WASR again.

>>32046312
I just saw a DDI take 5,000 rounds with no problems.

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>>32046425

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>>32046425
THE SHILLS ARE COMIN OUT BOYS

>>32046425
wtf i love ddi now

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>>32046425
Yeah ok there buddy

>>32046425
as someone with a ddi 74 I would like to see proof of this. if anything to see how it held up. Provided you aren't full of shit.

>Can't find decent wood 74 handguards that aren't overpriced as shit

>>32046508
>>32046472
>>32046439
>>32046429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW2XimHGyJQ

ive been thinking about buying a big stack of receiver flats and maybe even the tooling and pins

just for sexual gratification

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>>32046516
We know what fucking video you're referring to you stupid faggot

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Honestly i dont think ddi are that bad, maybe rob just got a really fucked up one, but its definitely going to hurt their reputation.

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>>32046511
just get a beat up one from russiansurplus. strip it and apply ruby shellac.

>>32046566

That WASR is ugly and you should feel fucking boss for having one. 8/10

>>32046567
hnnnnnnnnnnnnng

So are Century RAS-47s garbage?

Where is the best place to buy a furniture-less AK?

>>32046600
You better fucking believe they are.

>>32046579
uhhh thanks....

I was thinking of upgradin the wood

http://shop.akoperatorsunionlocal4774.com/AK-Russian-Wood-Furniture-Set-Wood-74.htm

And since my bday and christmas is coming i was gonna use that excuse to beg mommy and daddy to put down the shekels for it.

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>>32046639
>uhhh thanks....

Sure brother.

>>32046567
I want the straight cut handguards though.

>>32046639
>putting AK-74 wood on essentially an AKM
ew

>>32046715
>ew

The AK74 is technically an AKM also, just in a different caliber.

Where can I buy one of those AKs that lack furniture so you can choose your own stuff?

>>32046536
Then why are you saying DDI is shit?

>>32046701
see
>>32046639
You can probably sell the stock on AK Files. Done.

>>32046742

DDI a shit tho

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>All this bashing on DDI

I love the Fighter Brake tho. No regrets getting one.

>>32046750
DDI is good.
DDI All-Americans, maybe not so good.
Prove me wrong.

>>32046755
those are made by definitive arms tho

>>32046729
No it isn't you stupid faggot

>>32046759
>make a claim
>prove me wrong
lel

should i get?

https://www.khybercustoms.com/collections/furniture/products/3-piece-russian-battlefield-pickup-stockset

>>32046787
Sure

>>32046776
>definitive arms tho

God damn it. I knew I had that confused. I always mix up DDI, Definitive Arms and Rifle Dynamics for some reason.

Whatever I fucking love it enough to shill.

>>32046780
I showed proof of my claim already. See >>32046516

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>>32046805
How about you spend some fucking time on akfiles, unless you already do Mr. Fillers

>>32046805
>Old video
>Ignores the newer one with poor results

Breh

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What's the best way to get into long range AKs?
Molot Vepr in 7.62x54r?
Romanian PSL?
Something else?

I'd like to keep it to .308 or x54r
I'm fairly new to AKs and only own a 74

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>have pic related
>two more NOS plums from AIM coming whenever they process my order
>just bought 3 more NOS bakelites and another NOS RPK mag from Legion

help

>>32046818
>normal successful people
>going on 4chan

>>32046639
The handguards would be more or less proper for an AKM, to the best of my knowledge, but the existing WASR buttstock is more proper for an AKM. Those lightening slots in the sides of the '74 buttstock were to make it immediately visually distinguishable from an AKM during the period when armories had both on the racks (I suspect this is also one reason for the great big AK74 brake). It will probably fit or be fit-able but it will set off my autisms. reeeeeeeeee, etc.

>>32046845
>David Fillers
>normal
>sucessful
How new are you?

>>32046851
>The handguards would be more or less proper for an AKM, to the best of my knowledge
No they wouldn't you stupid faggot. Look at an AKM handguard then look at an AK-74 handguard

>>32046819
>ignores the one with the completely different rifle
Please explain

>>32046861
>Please explain
OLD.

>>32046755
>>32046795
How well does it reduce recoil and muzzle rise, and does it reduce your split times? I will guess it's probably better than a slant brake, but then I personally can't feel any difference between a slant brake and a bare muzzle.

>>32046837
I'm a hair from overpaying for two plum mags(100 fucking dollars) because they have trench art that consists 80s metal bands. I still need a handguard set, a triangle folder, an rpk sight and those clip on night sights too.

Can we do mag addicts anonymous?

>>32046873
please post pics

PLEASE

>>32046855
They both have the palm swells, don't they?

The smooth-sided handguards that come on a WASR are really correct for an early milled AK47, not an AKM.

>>32046868
>completely different rifle
But pls explain

>>32046870
i put it on my npap see >>32046566

Really helped reduce cheek slap for me at the cost of a louder gun to people beside you apparently.

>>32046853
>Implying one broken part means an entire business and brand is bad.

>>32046851
>hose lightening slots in the sides of the '74 buttstock were to make it immediately visually distinguishable from an AKM during the period when armories had both on the racks
No they weren't. They were to make the stock lighter. Hence, "lightening cuts."

Also the muzzle brake was unique to the -74, and the 90 degree gas block was introduced early on in the -74's life for reliability reasons.

Of course all of that pales in comparison to the fact that the mags aren't interchangeable at all...

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>>32046879
At least I don't have to worry about someone stealing them from under me at the price this jackass wants for em. It's not even because of the uniqueness either, he prices normal beat to shit plums that price or even higher.

>>32046899
that's pretty neat

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>>32046899

>>32046836
I, too, am interested in this.

I do not own an AK but a family member does and I love the platform, I'm currently /noguns/ because /poorstudent/ but I'm saving for my first big purchase.

Would /akg/ recommend a Molot VEPR? Or what would be a good AK-based alternative? ~$800 is my ideal budget.

>>32046899
That's awesome. My Legion order with the RPK mag is piggybacking 4 plums for a friend. Last time I ordered plums from Legion they were beat to shit but didn't have anything interesting on them; if these do I might offer to trade one of my NOS plums from AIM just to get something more interesting.

>>32046870
>How well does it reduce recoil and muzzle rise
I went from muzzle nut to slant to Fighter in about a month, and I was shooting every weekend with the slant brake.

I noticed a big difference between nut and slant, but I noticed a hell of a difference between Fighter and Slant.

I don't know about split time and I don't think it does much for recoil but it definitely controls muzzle rise.

The last time I shot, I was pegging clays at 50 yards in fairly quick succession.

>>32046928
You have no idea how much I wish they were even 10$ cheaper per mag. I almost think the cool factor is worth 50$ a pop, but god damn I hate spending money.

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#BuiltButNotByMe

>>32046978
>>32046989
>forgetting your trip

>>32046962
Well, if you feel like rolling the dice, Legion still has a bunch of plums for like $27.95 each plus $10 shipping. Might have trench art, probably won't have metal band carvings though. A guy on the Files also just put an ad up for similarly-cheap plums, but with a lower price for shipping on smaller quantities.

>>32046989
Nice receiver. Childers or 74u LLC? You don't see those Y-stamps too often.

>>32046836
I'll third this. I'm looking for something I can customize decently.

>>32047010
I really don't care much for trench art, but the sheer amount visible from the thumbnail on those mags caught my eye. These are probably the coolest used mags I've ever seen.

The jew has other sets of 2 priced at 125$ per.

>>32046607
ags used to have some hungarian parts ddis like that but I'm pretty sure those are dried up now.

...so, anyone here rattlecan an AK?

I cleaned the exterior of the metal with carburetor cleaner, old toothbrushes, and paper towels then used Rustoleum matte black high-temp BBQ paint on the exterior of the barrel and the gas block, front sight base, flash suppressor, and gas cylinder, because the rifle was a WASR and it was parkerized but the parkerizing was thin and splotchy and scratched-up right out of the box. Even after two weeks of drying the paint was soft and crumbly and could be scratched off easily with a fingernail. But then I went to a range and dumped a couple hundred rounds through it in half an hour and got it hot enough that smoke was coming out from under the handguards and cosmolene was melting and weeping out of the front sight base around the barrel. When I got the rifle home and let it cool down, the paint was nice and hard and tough.

I also decided to do a camouflage paint job on the furniture. The base color was 6-8 coats of Rustoleum satin "Dark Taupe," which is a very close match for the currently popular flat dark earth/coyote brown color. Then I got some of the Krylon camo colors and a homemade stencil with leaf and branch shapes, and used that to apply some "dark earth brown" and "dark olive drab." Then the furniture got about a dozen coats of matte clearcoat, and a final scrub with a green nylon scrubber to get a really nice nonreflective matte finish.

The final result looks kind of like ass but it's starting to grow on me.

>>32047137
Pics?

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>>32046996
I know, right?

>>32047010
Two Rivers Arms receiver. They do everything pretty faithfully.

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>>32047171
Okay. It's potatophone quality, though.

>>32047196
How's your sisterwife doing, Cletus?

>>32047196
I can't give you high marks for artistic talent, but I'm interested in if the overall process works out long term. Thanks for the share.

>>32047212
She doesn't give head as well as your mom does, but she's a better cook.

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I need to get make on this project

wheres that anon sellin the wasr from few days ago

>>32047372
better make to it

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>>32046314
We'll wait for you to do what you're complaining about.

>>32046837
where the fuck did you find a vitiligo bake?

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>>32045284

Dude, wtf are you thinking? I hope this is a troll.
NO, do NOT drill another hole in your barrel.
Do you even know what is going to go where that hole is? Your new gas block that will be pinned on. So that new gas block will cover that hole you dun goofed into your barrel.
If you're lucky that hole won't affect your accuracy. If not, well then sell the gun to a nigger and start over.

>>32046567
>shellac
Use multiple layers of Tung oil unless you're a lazy faggot.

Seriously, a bottle of Tung oil and some 12000 grit sandpaper will run you maybe 30 dollars and is L I T E R A L L Y the best (for price) wood finish you can do. I use this shit on beautiful art I make, and it's water repellent and very durable. Much better than "shellac" (that shit you buy at the store is not shellac, normies get out reeeee)

>>32046001
If thats you, cut that stupid pin thing on the key to your jacob's chuck off, I fucking hate those why were they made.

>>32048091
Now post one for SVD parts

No really, please do it because that shit is unobtainium

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Does anyone have any information about the tool and die to make flats?

>>32048329
To make flats into a receiver or to make the flats themselves?

>>32048347
The flats themselves

>>32046511
I got a set I can sell you

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>>32048316
some lug specs

>>32048374
>>32048375
why did you stop using your trip?

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>>32048381
idk I keep toying with going completely anon for opsec purposes.

>>32048397
saved

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>>32048453
>You
>Having Opsec
Sorry buddy, but that ship sailed long ago.
On a side note, did you get tracking info on the RTM retainers?
I've been a bit too busy to email the guy and see what's up.

>>32048453
If you want the trunnion dimensions without the weapons guild logo in the center let me know.

Or if you want the .ipt of it

>>32046050
Shorter the better in AKS. Lot of barrel whip

>>32048530
like 2 or 3 inches?

>>32046516
Let's see a kit build that's not all U.S. Production.

>>32048453
so this.....is the power....of the quadruple stack mag.....

>>32048479
Unfortunately you're probably right. (What's the fun of collecting shit if you don't share)

>>32048559
For only 2k you can get in on the quad stack fun

>>32048479
He didn't give any tracking

>>32048247
I was just trying to rustle some jimmies my friend.
I'm gonna rivet the trigger guard and pin on the gb/fsb this weekend. Next weekend I'll take her out shooting and let you guys how bad it is.

>>32048649
mission accomplished!
good luck. hoping for the best for you.

How should I refinish my AK bolt carrier? I have Arsenal SAR-M1 and a lot of the original finish has worn off and there is some pitting near the piston end because of shooting corrosive ammo with a suppressor and being too lazy to clean it.

>>32048996
European?

There's nothing you're going to be able to do at home that's going to be any better than the factory paint. You can spraypaint over it again if you want. The piston itself is hard chromed so you don't need to worry about that. Clean your damn gun

>>32046836
>Molot Vepr in 7.62x54r?
If you are going with a sporter, just get a 308 gun so you can have mags over 5rds. 54r ammo isn't even cheap any more.
That being said, my psl clanks my 400 yard steel pretty easy and gets around 1in with russian factory 188 surplus. Once you get optics on the vepr54r, you're not so far off in price from a psl + 4x scope. I personally think military rifles are far more desirable than sporters, but the vepr will treat you well if you don't care about that.

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>>32049191
>If you are going with a sporter, just get a 308 gun

So are we about to see the lowest prices since the 80s if Trump ends the Russia import ban, and Sessions recommends an end to the foreign weapon ban?
I don't want to get political here, just wondering if I should maybe hold off on getting my second AK.

>>32049202
He's kinda right. I got the 23" vepr in 54r and the singlestack 5rd mags kinda ruin it. Wish i had gotten the 20" .308

>>32049211
>I got the 23" vepr in 54r and the singlestack 5rd mags kinda ruin it.

Fine, I'll buy it from you. You live in the midwest?

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>>32046425
>aks not even shooting 5000 rounds
How is it possible to make shitty such durable rifle? Westerners no have Slav magic?

>>32049216
Nope. East coast

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>>32049220
That explains why you're such a faggot

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WAKE ME UP INSIDE

>>32046836
VEPR in .308, then Vepr in 54r, then psl, in that order. there really arent any other options on the market.

>>32049229
What am I even looking at? Did you try to drill while drunk?

>>32049202
what else does it really have going for it at this point? other than a better looking mag angle?
Surplus is all but dry.
>>32049262
I'd put the psl before the vepr54r personally, 10rd mags and having a legit military gun so you can drool and get the weird pride of owning one whenever you watch middle-eastern shows and movies.
It doesn't shoot any worse from my experience, maybe it would do some of that stuff it's rumored to do if I magdumped and really got the barrel hot before trying to shoot paper? That doesn't sound smart to do before shooting paper with any gun though. Barrel should be cool-ish first.

>>32049037

>European?

Yup. The piston chrome plating has chipped of partially too. I have no idea about how many rounds I have shot through it but something in the range of 5-10k.

>>32049268
I was riveting, but the bottom rivet was crooked and I somehow didn't notice.

>>32049383
it has a thicker barrel, is generally considered more accurate, and mag size doesnt matter with long range shooting. and it can take heavy ball ammo, which is unrelated to precision shooting but still useful and much cheaper.

>>32049413
Well, it works I guess. Take a file to it if you want, or dirll it out and start over.

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Hey, guys, poor/newfag question, what are some of the best Babby's First Kalashnikovs? I really don't care about what it's chambered in as long as it's 7.62, 5.45, or .223. I'm not looking for HD or hunting, I'm really just looking for a gun for fun.
Also, I saved this little thing a while back, not sure if it's an abomination or a neat little toy. I hope it's good enough payment for any answers to my question.

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>>32049229
>>32049413
Wait...are you the barrel driller?
If so, you should trip so we can track your wacky adventures.

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It wasn't cheap but I finally got a reverse dong.

>>32049507
I can't imagine how hard it is to get 30 rounders in and out with that thing. I have a forward dong and sometimes mags just won't hardly come out and I have to fidget around with them like a fucking tard.

>>32049202
You're a retard.

>>32049507
How much? Because I could make that shit in like an hour.

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>>32049522
Oh shit you got me, how will I ever recover

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>>32049518

I can't lie, it's bad. Mags have to pretty much go straight into the mag well.

>>32049529

Less than $100. You should make some.

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>>32049615
>Less than $100. You should make some.
You won't get the aged look, but yeah I could totally make some.
>laminate wood
>bandsaw it
>drawknife
>rasp

Literally the only "hard" part would be the inletting, which would just be time consuming, not difficult. Could I make money off this? If I sold them for 45 a piece would you fucks buy 10 of them? I might even do it for less if you cover shipping, would be a fun project.

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>>32049501
Yes, yes I am.

Also, just broke off the spring trying to swap sight leafs.

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>>32049803
>he keeps breaking shit

>>32046001
How low does /k/ think ak prices are going to go now that Trump is elected? I'm thinking we'll see sub $500 Wasrs by February. Tombstone already has them for $630 with free shipping.

>>32049869
>I'm thinking we'll see sub $500 Wasrs by February

I like to look up at the clouds and dream as much as the next guy but they'll never be that cheap again.

>>32049803
People will laugh at you, but this is honestly the best way to learn. Make mistakes with cheap shit and you won't make mistakes when it matters.

The key part in this plan that seems to escape people is that at some point you need to stop making mistakes, but for now you're doing alright.

>>32049803
That spring isn't broken. It just came out. You can put it back in.

>>32048632
You should order another run of those sometime because I kinda want one.

>>32048372
I was asleep but go on.

>>32049803
>the saiga butcher

Fug

That's not supposed to be very funny, but I'm rolling on the floor

>>32049892
Im basing sub $500 Wasrs on retailers having stocked up for Hillary panic buying and the market being saturated as fuck with significantly lower demand.

>>32049999
>Surely 5.56 will go back to the old prices now that Sandy Hook panic is over.1

>>32050053
Ammo is an entirely different market than funs because there is a much smaller profit margin with ammo. Besides, market trends under King Nigger aren't at all a representative those under Trump and a republican house and senate majority.

>>32049999
Believe me, I would LOVE to see that, but since they know they can sell them at $600 then there's really no reason for them to sell them for $500 or less.
also nice quads.

>>32050108
Whatever you need to tell yourself.

>>32049415
Vs the 308?

>>32049803
>that rust on the bullet guide screw

>>32050287
the .308 VEPR does everything the 54r VEPR does with the added benefit of accepting doublestack mags, having a much greater range of ammo available, and now its cheaper to feed as well.

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>>32049928
I never fitted the upper. Extra set I have. Make an offer

To anon with bulgarian bakelite handgaurds that wobble. Buy a dowel, cut to size, gorilla glue to handgaurd to shim. File wood to fit. Smack lower handgaurd around with a rubber mallet until cleaning rod drops in. Wobble fixed.

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>>32051454
Image for post

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>>32052139
this is bait

>>32052139
That seems to be a Sturmgewehr

>>32052139
I don't care that it's not an AK. That's some damn fine Syrian engineering.

>>32052139
How the fuck are these guys getting a steady supply of 8mm Kurz?

>>32052203
maybe like the rest of us they get new production ammo from Serbia.

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First post for my 5.45 DDI Bulgy parts kit build. No explosions or cracked extractors so far.

So I'm watching a documentary on Netflix called The Ivory Game, and it's about the poaching of elephants in Africa. I'm only 10 minutes in and one of the anti-poaching groups in Kenya have guys armed with well worn AK74s (I guess they could be 5.56 but I'm not aware of any AK101s in Africa and the magazines had more of a 5.45 curvature than the more straight 5.56 magazine). I had no idea there were AK74s in Africa. How could they have gotten there? I'm not aware of any ever being sold to African nations and I have no idea if they are ever sold to individual independent organizations or paramilitary groups in Africa.

Anyone have any info on this?

>>32052221
Some arms dealer somewhere had some crates of 74s and decided to sell them to Africa. It's really not complicated.

>>32052221
>>32052244
Our melanin-enriched comrades enjoy cheap surplus ammo too

>>32052139
Radio? - check
Energy drink? - check
Spark plug? - check

Ok, we good to go!

>>32046254

Yup, and their American made parts in their all American AK sucks like every other American AK, go figure.

Their AKs made with combloc parts are perfectly fine.

>>32046868

The NEW rifle uses a shitty American made everything. The OLD rifle and their kit built rifles still uses Hungarian or Polish parts that work just fine because they're made correctly.

Just the like the DDI-12, DDI is trying to "improve" the design and failing miserably. Stick to their parts kit builds which are great, any American made AK is always going to be shit.

>>32052344
>Just the like the DDI-12, DDI is trying to "improve" the design and failing miserably.

I don't think they had anything to do with the design or manufacture of those. They just imported the guns from china and put their name on them.

>>32052244
I wasn't aware arms dealers had any significant numbers of 74s

>>32052371

From what I gathered from their postings on AKFiles, the shotgun was made in China to their specifications. Maybe the Chinese fucked it up though, who knows?

>>32052388
why would you possibly think that? it's not like AK's are hard to come by, and 74's have been out for 42 years now.

How much would you pay for this?
https://www.armslist.com/posts/6119714/northern-ky-rifles-for-sale--chinese-ak47

>>32052391
Chinese don't just screw things up, they just built it how they were told to.
If they were told to built crap, and they did, that's still the fault of DDI.

>>32052499
I could go $600 for it. That guy is delusional.

>>32052411
Not him, but 74s are substantially scarcer in comparison to AKMs though. AKMs were manufactured by everybody and sold to everybody, while 74s were only manufactured by a handful of countries, and even then it isn't like they've been exported for 42 years. It wasn't until only a couple decades ago that they finally started being seen outside of their respective militaries. They're not that uncommon throughout the middle east because the Soviets were at war in Afghanistan for a decade and captured rifles spread around, but Africa is a different story as there are no 74s to be captured and there really haven't been many numbers of exported 74s.

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>All these anti-DDI virgins
Why don't you get laid, losers. 3k rounds though mine and not a single problem so far.

Also thinking about getting a Fighter-24, thoughts?

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About 600 rounds through my DDI and not a single issue.

>>32052610
yours is probably a kit build isn't it?
yeah well the kit they used to build yours had quality parts in it.
their american made parts suck ass. deal with it faggot.

>>32052613
That picture "could" have been so great.
What a waste, unless you have a boner for slings.

>>32052613
>600 rounds
>enough to measure literally anything

What's the best 7.62x39 to get for my trunkgun? I was thinking softpoints.

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Hey guys. Whats the most accurate steel case 7.62x39? I've mainly been shooting Tula and Wolf because $, but I got a better job and want as much accuracy as I can get with semi cheap ammo. Are there a few that are generally more accurate than others?

>>32052637
>new gun
>nice try

>>32052659
Golden tiger from my experience

>>32052512
I got him down to 700, should I cop?

>>32052659

GT is the most consistent, and has anti flash materials in the powder for minimal muzzle flash, the projectile is boat tailed and has a air cavity to yaw like 7n6.

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>>32052627
>Single broken extractor
>IT'S SHIT
People here shill for fucking WASRs and they've got much worse problems than a $5.00 part snapping. Is it the greatest situation? No, but it doesn't make it the fucking terrible rifle you're trying to call it.

Stop acting like a retard, or being a retard.

>>32052668
I'd get it for $700, that's a pretty good price

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>>32052672
>has anti flash materials in the powder for minimal muzzle flash,

Best 5.45 round ?

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How does /akg/ feel about QD clamp-on bipods?

>>32052717
Hornady V-Max

>>32052722
me? indifferent.
blah blah accuracy blah, big whoop. it probably wasn't that accurate to begin with.
you want one? get one.
no? then don't. who cares. none of this matters anyway. we're all doomed so why bother.

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>>32052717
7N6 is pretty awesome.

Yaws reliably, likes to slip through dense objects like trees (surprising, kind of).

>>32052722
it can't be that horrible if it's easy to remove.

>>32052717
Vmax is good but expensive, and honestly 7n6 is pretty good and considerably cheaper.

One of the great things about 7n6 when it was dirt cheap was that although it was corrosive it was also pretty good performing

>>32052742
>>32052770
the red army standard version is a little heavier, and travels into gel a little deeper before yawing.

But I would be comfortable claiming 7N6 and Red Army Standard 5.45 would be comparable.

Anyone have other thoughts?

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Whats a good russian chest rig?

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>>32052796
ma nigga

>>32052693

GT has flash suppressants in the powder, look it up.

>>32052796
>>32052802
Breh do you even modox
https://kommandostore.com/modox-beetle-1000d-cordura-chest-rig/

>>32052717

7n6, as of late commercial 5.45 (which only comes from 2 sources) is being severely underloaded in powder charge.

>>32052687
>comparing a $600 gun to a $1200 gun

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>>32052613
Is this a new meme on /akg/ or something?

>>32052823
I thought that was only that mil spec stuff SGammo had made

>>32052796

stretch the canvas to hold 6 mags foo.

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>>32052687
But that us barrel....

>>32052836

Someone in that thread on akfiles chrono'd Tula and it was like 300fps slower then the usual (which is already a few hundred FPS slower then 7N6.)

saw a guy shoot 9000000 rounds through his ddi with no issues. Its true i saw it. Highly efficient weapon. Highly recommended. Right up there with the greats like Inter Ordnance.

>>32052865
I'll have to check back on that thread. I only use WPA, though.

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Guys, do you think people would ever tell lies on the internet?

>>32052812
flash is burning powder.
GT might have faster burning powder so it's not burning as it leaves the barrel but saying it has flash suppressants sounds fucking retarded.

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>>32052824
>comparing a $600 gun to a $1200 gun
You realize my AK is a $700 gun, right? You realize the new all-American DDIs are $900, right? You realize the "new acceptable" price of WASRs is right around $800, right?

WASRs are barely worth $600, but people are paying a whole shitload more than that for them right now. DDIs are a fine comparison.

>>32052858
>But that perfectly fine American made barrel...
Because Slav barrels and their 3MOA accuracy are so much better, right?

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>>32046001
103 mags for $35 each, jackpot

>>32052899

an off the rack ar is a 3moa gun.

>>32052885
Pretty sure that's illegal!

>>32048539
it failed before 600 rounds. broken extractor

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>>32052904
Where?

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>>32052899
Reminder I have rarest DDI. Swerve peon.

>>32052916

Some dude in Votinkisk russia.

>>32052932

what make is that rifle?

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>>32052934
akfiles guy?

>>32052937
DDI. see how it's all fucked up?

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>>32052937
Arsenal SLR-107

>>32052865
I can confirm Tulammo is much MUCH quieter through a suppressed SBR than 55 grain brass .223 stuff from Freedom.

>>32052941
Nope, this is a guy I don't think anyone has bought from before, I went for 5 just to see if its a scam, bodies showed up today.

>>32052899
You realize that you mentioning "a 5 dollar part snapping" implies talking about the hammer forged gun, right? Right? Right?


Also aren't NPAPs still like $600? They are fine.

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>>32052908
Maybe if you get a shitty off the AR or a standard mil spec M4, but if you pay $1200 for any AK with a Russian barrel you're going to have a substantially less accurate rifle than if you buy a $1200 DD M4.

>>32052917
Yeah but the rear sight pins are slightly deformed or something which basically makes it the worst gun DDI has ever made since the PSA Gen1 AKs.

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>>32052955
Nigga you gotta drop that source after you get all the parts in!

alright /akg/ I'm done with being an ARfag

the only thing gayer than 5.56 is AR owners themselves

What's the essential machinery and tooling I need to churn out AKs from parts kits? Machining knowledge is not a concern here.

>>32052952

thats weird because Tula .223 is loaded hot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHC4eLdu6rw

>>32052899

>Slav barrels and their 3MOA accuracy

You wish. I'm yuropoor and I have lots of experience of slav AKs (Russian, Bulgarian, Hungarian etc) and maybe 1 in 10 of those are 3 MOA guns. 4-6 MOA is much more common. Chinese AKs are pretty much identical. Only one that stands apart is the Finnish M92 (civilian version of RK95).

>>32052968
first thing you'll need is a time machine...

>>32052973
maybe the powder just burns faster?

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>>32052968
>the only thing gayer than 5.56 is AR owners themselves

Yeah fucking AR faggots! Wait, wut...

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>>32052963
>Yeah but the rear sight pins are slightly deformed or something which basically makes it the worst gun DDI has ever made
I wish I saved the picture that someone made pointing out like the spot weld points and what not.
>since the PSA Gen1 AKs.
Dont let the goyim know
>>32052968
>AK Parts kits
>drying up
Pick 2

>>32052961
Yeah? The hammer forged guns are $900 bucks, you understand that, correct? You also understand that WASRs are now around $800, correct? That's a $100-150 price difference depending on where you buy them from, and the difference is you either get a gun with an easily replaceable broken part or a gun that needs to be sent back to the factory because they couldn't be bothered to build the rifle correctly the first time.

NPAPs are trash and you're trash for thinking that they're fine. I've got a buddy with 600 rounds through his and the bolt tail is completely deformed to the point where the bolt actually sticks to the rear of the receiver after every shot. It's a piece of shit.

>>32052974
I was throwing out what I've seen from the Slav barrel AKs that I've shot, but holy fuck that's terrible.

>>32052996
I forgot, that's an insider secret isn't it? I must delet this by blasting it with Dave Filler's 2000 degree piss.

>>32052978
I have a source on parts kits and barrels, not concerned about supply.

>>32052989
it is okay to be homosexual in the way you are, but they are abominations before god

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>>32053014
>NPAPs are trash and you're trash for thinking that they're fine. I've got a buddy with 600 rounds through his and the bolt tail is completely deformed to the point where the bolt actually sticks to the rear of the receiver after every shot. It's a piece of shit.
Delete this.

Quick, someone try to guess which ak cost the most in this photo

>>32053014
That was one run of NPAPs that did that. They are fine now.

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>>32053041
>homosexual in the way I am

t-t-thanks?

>>32053076
That is honestly a very good looking cat.

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>>32053014

>I was throwing out what I've seen from the Slav barrel AKs that I've shot, but holy fuck that's terrible.

I have Arsenal (full Bulgarian one, since we are in Europe), many of my friends have Arsenal, our shooting club has Saiga and couple a other ppl in the club have Saigas and one of my friends has a FEG and couple have Norincos. I seriously don't believe American made barrels are any worse than Slav barrels (with exeption of the soft steel shit Century puts in the C39V2 and RAS models).

I'm currently applyinh for a permit for an AR-15, I have shot 5k+ rounds with my Arsenal and I'm pretty sure the accuracy is not going to get any better.

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>>32053068
It's the WASR isn't it :^

>>32053073
Bad meme desu

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>>32053088
Thanks anon. I found my cats on 4chan of all places. They all like my guns it seems.

>>32053122
>It's the WASR isn't it :^
Its the Golani at $700
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0Xx-oQKsU
>>32053109
Operate well doggo

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>>32053109
Wait does that doge have a rig?

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>>32052917
>not an SBR
KYS

>>32053014

>wasrs are $800

Guys Lincoln just got shot in fords theatre!

https://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/century-arms/ri1805-n-wasr-10-ak-47-rifle-762x39mm-16.5in-30rd-wood/


were in a buyers market for the next 4 years.

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>>32053153
I want a cat that color, fucking RARE

>>32053156
>No dimples
>actual AK

Delete yourself

>>32053151

AK mags are so heavy someone has to carry some for me.

>>32052968
ar give more bang for your buck.

>>32053166

>U.S made

>Pot metal

>failed within 600 rounds

nice DDI friendo.

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>>32053166
but I like my WASR and was my first AYE Kay. :'(

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>>32053157
You have to have a connection in russia to send you an early first mold kitty
>>32053174
>he doesnt have a rare pre-ban ddi

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>>32053157
>implying I own a DDI and dont have exclusively home builds

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>>32053200
>no cleaning rod

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>>32053200
Meant to reply to >>32053174

>>32053157
>>32053185
Calicos are not too rare, getting her spayed next week tho, really sucks cause it means shell never get to have kittys.

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>>32053225
Too much weight, remember
Ounces equal Pounds which equal pain my dude.

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>>32053249
>not having the original maglight handguard

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>>32053229
I had my grey kitty spayed not long ago too. I like little kitties too, but think of all the kitties now on the street with no home. These cats were kittens on the street only about five or six weeks old and were going to be destroyed, so I saved all three of them because the mother cat was a whore and sucked at taking care of her kittens too.

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>RPK
7.62x54R

Ok battlefield

>>32052963
But you will be substantially less gay with the ak.

>>32052917
Shitty rivet suchka guy is back. You didn't even have a SBR KYS.

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>>32053414
>Shitty rivet suchka guy is back.
What did he mean by this?
>You didn't even have a SBR KYS.
I have 1 sbr already with a couple more pending.

>>32048375
>>32048374
seriously please post all Dragunov blueprints/specs if you have them, they are the Holy Grail.

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Guess what I'm getting for Christmas :^)

>>32053014
>this much brand loyalty
If your extractor goes down your gun goes down until you can replace it, and replacing it is practically a three handed job. It's not a part that ever breaks on a high quality AK.

>the too allergic to cats to be around them
Is life even worth living

>>32053766
yes

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>>32046001
>Built Not Bought Edition

Got this mostly finished today

>>32053766
Yes, dogs still exist

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>>32053777
that bake

>>32053732
He will never see the light.

>>32052961
>They are fine
Except when the receiver cracks like Rob's did.

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>>32053732
It's an extractor. It's not the end of the world if it breaks. Is it annoying? Is it shitty that DDI made a bad run of extractors? Is it unacceptable? Yes. Is it indicative of the entire rifle being of poor quality? Is it a reason for WASRfags/NPAPfags/Other traditionally shitty Eastern/Southern Slavic AK variant owners to act like they didn't buy a $600-800 shitheap? No.

>>32053777
Nice PM md.63 :^

>>32053798
20 round bakelite is best bakelite, especially with that dong

Anyone that can help me get a ratnik bayonet?

NEW THREAD
>>32054109
>>32054109
>>32054109
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>>32054109
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>>32054109
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>>32053766
No, cats are literally a best

Only cucks and dog lovers (what's the difference tho amirite??) will debate this ::::^^^^^)))))

>>32052687
>People here shill for fucking WASRs and they've got much worse problems than a $5.00 part snapping.

Like what?

>>32052964
Is strapping two mags together like that truly a good idea? It might make you reload a LITTLE faster, but come on, you're strapping an extra 1-2lb to your firearm. In the case of that AKM steel mag, probably almost 2lb. That's a lot of weight to add to your firearm just for the sake of making it a little faster on the first reload, then on the second you'd have to go for a fresh mag. With a STANAG mag it's not QUITE as bad; roughly 1.1lb, but still, I think it's best just to stick to one mag. I'd rather have a 7.5lb loaded firearm that will need a fresh mag upon being emptied rather than an 8.6lb firearm that will have a slightly faster initial reload but a more standard-speed second reload.

>>32052989
>Over 40 mags
I know the meme goes that you can never have too many mags or too much ammo, but anon... buddy... you have too many fucking mags. Unless you have 3-4 friends who all have AK74s and have sent their mags over to you to babysit while they're away drinking vodka, you have too many fucking mags. Like, what is even the point of having that many mags?

>>32053905
1964... wow. Over 50 years old, and still modern as fuck. I think the M16A1 had only just come out to replace the XM16 that was so jammy that it was getting Yanks killed in Vietnam. India was probably still using the Mk.III* Lee Enfield as its primary service rifle, though likely with that variant in 7.62 Nato. The AK-74 was still a decade from being produced, The Beatles have only been producing records for 1-2 years, the FN FAL had only been used Militarily for about 10 years, and the SVD-63 Dragunov is brand spanking new (as well as using what I think was the most advanced scope on Earth at the time). If that assault rifle could talk... if only it could talk... I probably wouldn't be able to understand it because it's Russian.

>>32053022
Tothtools
Or
Hydraulic press, drill press and a handfull of jigs and basic tools. A way to heat treat if starting with flats and a couple extra jigs

Anyone know if a krink dust cover is the same length as a standard bulgy 74 cover?