So the AK-47 is still the most common gun in the world, right?

desu probably the makarov

glawk

>>32037978
fpbp

>>32037978
>desu
*sigh*

Let me redirect you to where you belong

>>>/a/

>>32038005
Where have you been for the last year?

The Hi-Power, Glock, 1911, Tokarev and Makarov would probably be among the most common automatic pistols in military service.

Then there's revolvers, there's a fucking lot of S&W Model 10s, being popular police and military revolver.

>>32038005

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>>32038418
I read somewhere that there arre more old Ruby pistols "hidden in drawers" than all registered handguns together in France. Can someone help me source or dispel that afirmation?

Tokarevs

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>>32038988
I can't imagine there's any collective solid records on that, given how the manufacture was done, but yes, there was an overwhelming niggerton of .32ACP Ruby pistols made

God knows how many were just left or lost out in battlefields along with dead soldiers.

>>32038988
That's a reasonable assertion, but it'd be impossible to approve. Everyone and their brother made a model of ruby in that period.

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>>32037968
CZ75 pattern handguns overall. 1911 in north america and Hi-power in Europe and elsewhere.

>>32038005
Welcome back, buddy! How long has it been?

Yeah, so for like 2 years, there has been a global wordfilter.
T B H becomes desu
F a m becomes senpai
And I think there is one or two more.

>>32039480
>2 years
Not this long, but otherwise yes.

The other one is s m h becoming baka.

>>32037968
No. The 100 million number includes all firearms belonging to the AK platform. If we're talking platforms, the Mauser is by far the most common firearm in the world.

The most common handguns are the Browning Hi-Power and Glock 19

The 1911 or the 92f

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>>32037968

Its very hard to determine what actual model is most common, its better to sort the most common guns by action or operating mechanism.

In America, its .38 caliber revolvers hands down. For almost the entirety of the twentieth century .38 special was THE standard. Cops carried it, civilians carried, criminals used them; there are probably more .38 special revolvers of all varieties sitting, unused and abandoned, at the bottom of drawers than there are ALL forms of striker-fired pistols in America. Seriously, literally everyone and their mother owned one, and literally every gun manufacturer at the minimum had a line of .38 revolvers. The only thing that comes close to the .38 is probably M1911 designs.

For the rest of the world: Makarovs and copies of Makarovs. Seriously, the Soviet Union produced them by the millions and exported them to just about every third world shithole in the world. Like the AK, Maks were also illegally copied and mass produced by the tens of millions in factories from East Germany to North Korea, and even today something like 50+ countries use it as a standard military and police handgun.

>>32038005
Where the hell do you think you are?

>>32039613
he said the world, not america

>>32039644
you sure it's not the BHP for the rest of the world? cause I'm pretty sure it is

>>32039480
I was wondering what was going on desu senpai

>>32039675
Only a little more than a million BHP's were produced by FN Herstal; I don't know how many BHP clones were made.

But at least 5 million Maks were produced in Russia alone, not counting the millions shit out by China or Vietnam or the rest of the Eastern Bloc, or the ones produced in illicit factories around the world.

The Mak is a single-stack fixed barrel blowback in a weak caliber with less than 30 parts. Its cheap and easy as fuck to mass produce with low-tech industrial equipment by second and third-worlders without fucking up, which is why its probably the most common gun in the world.

>>32039834
*most common handgun in the world

>>32039834
>I don't know how many BHP clones were made.

I assume it's a massive number, since it is the most commonly used military sidearm to this day

>>32038005
REEEEEE REDDITOR GET
>>>/out/
Rudy poo fucking shits.

>>32039509
I didn't know about that one.
DESU senpai baka

>>32037968
Glock

Pretty sure the mauser still beats the ak on numbers.

I would say the bhp ans its clones and step children are the pistol equivalent

hi-power, cz, 1911, glock, makarov
unless you don't include clones, in which case makarov

Hi-power?

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>>32039480
>2 years

>>32039480
>>32039509
You're all full of shit. I've been here for 8 years and I've never noticed wordfilters other than the old ones that changed "nigger", "vagina", and "penis".
Maybe I don't say retarded shit like desu, senpai, baka.

desu
senpai
baka

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>>32040780
I'll be darned.

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>>32040780
Well I don't know what to tell you tbqh, the wordfilter has been here for at least a year or two pham.

I guess you just haven't paid attention or you've been absent.

>>32040797
I don't say shit like f a m, t b h, or s m h.

>>32037968
Glock 19

>>32040780
I remember getting auto banned for typing 'jew'.

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>>32040825
Woah, what an intellectual!

>>32040780
Lurk moar then
Candy-assgot

I heard some stuff about pinoys making M1911's in their backyard.
Although I think lever action pistols and various Euro designs were popular among bootleggers in the Khyber Pass and in China during the civil war.

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>>32038005
>*sigh*

>>32040958
>candy-assgot
It always bothered me that it was only "fag" that was filtered. Actually, the word filters in general bothered/bother me. I miss vanilla.

>>32040780

Is this thread full of shit?

desu
senpai

>>32041520
Fuck me rotten. At least when I see that shit now I won't immediately think its the opinion of a retarded weeb.

1911's by default

Beretta 92


and Colt's .357

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>>32039480
Wait, really? I never once tried to say those desu. Senpai.
I thought everyone here was a closet weeaboo.
What am I saying. Of course everyone is a closet weeaboo.
Smh

baka

>>32037968
There are actually still more Mauser 98 style rifles in the world than AKs.

>>32038005
I think you forgot what website your on m8

desu

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>>32037968
>So the AK-47 is still the most common gun in the world, right?

The AKM, yes probably. The AK47, no.

If you want to be sure, you can just say "AK" though. That surely wins hands down.

>>32040780
p0n0s

>>32038005
desu senpai

I took a year hiatus and was wondering why the hell desu was suddenly back in style a decade later

>>32042076
I kinda like that it's been forced back in vogue again. Lot of people look at it as weeb shit, but it's also kind of classic slang.

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>>32041884

>>32038005
>>32041610
>>32041526
>Hating anime on an anime site

>>32040531
Yep. Since around Jan 2015
>jan 2015 was 2 years ago

>>32042177
>Your AK isn't designed to self destruct after firing a mag
What kind of knockoff are you using.

>>32041935
wut?
>>32042177
>this is why you shouldn't buy Isreali ammo

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>>32041884
AK would be the original official designation for the first stamped rifles, then there'd be the semi-stamped rifles, and then the milled rifles, the AKM being the finalized stamped variant with a new stock angle and a muzzle-brake.
Calling it the "AK-47" is a later practice brought about from the need to more easily differentiate it from the AK-74 in the west (the Russians never really called it AK-47).
That said, I think AK is a good shorthand for all of them, them being Automatics of a Kalashnikov design.

Though the later AKM is no doubt more ubiquitous, the previous milled rifles and semi-stamped rifles got around quite a lot, the Chinese distributed their fair share of AKs, which were initially milled, it's not that unusual to find that a few of the rifles in a pile of AKs used by a guerilla force or third world militia.
They're pretty hard to wear out or break down too, thus they stick around, and a rifle is a rifle.

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>>32038005
>being this new

>>32041935
Testing vagina

>>32042177
Welcome_to_Inter_Ordnance.gif

>>32037968
DESU senpai

>>32040825
I do, but only after the wordfilters were put into place :^)

>>32038005
oh wow

>>32039287
Rubys are wonderful guns if you get a good one, actually any steel framed .32s are great. Perfect carry guns imo if you could get a new manufacture ones.

>>32038005
anata totemo newfag desu ne WWWWWWWW

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baka desu senpai
S M H T B H F A M

sorry for shitposting but i came here from freedomchan to test this.

>>32040780
I don't believe you desu senpai

>>32043588
Eh, the current alloy or polymer .380 are way better ballistically and I suspect actually last longer. I wouldn't really want to shoot a ruby with 5000 rounds through it but I'd do it no problem with something like an LCP

>>32042177
>its not named "taurus_maked_an_ak.gif"

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>>32038005

>>32038005

Anime is for cucks.

>AK-47
>Most common assault rifle in the world

Real AK-47s are pretty rare compared to the AKM or Type-56

desu senpai baka

>>32044440
>you AR-15 isn't a real AR-15 because it wasn't made by Armalite
They are guns made on the AK platform.
They are AKs.

>>32037968
The most produced? or the most widely used?

I assume you mean most widely used because there's been many times more Mausers produced than AKs.

I would say Glock if we are talking Civ and LE

>>32039480
This has gotta be fake, desu senpai baka

>>32044440
AK-47 is just a shorthand nickname for 7.62x39mm AKs that we use in the west to differentiate it from the AK-74, see >>32042851

The Russians never called early stamped or milled rifles AK-47, it was just "AK"

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>>32042177
S A L T E D A M M U N I T I O N

>>32038005
baka desu senpai

>>32039480
testing

baka desu senpai

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>>32047646

FUCK ITS LITERALLY NOT A MEME

>>32038005
I'm fairly new and even I realize you're retarded.

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>>32047648
>>32047646
>>32039480
>tfw in /vg/ the resident schizophrenics REGULARLY blame me for the BAKA/DESU/SENPAI filters and claim that I am the sole reason they exist

Did you know that the internet is full of literal schizophrenics?

Did you know that most people on the internet are similar?

Did you know that most people on the internet are literally normal by grace of being similar to most of the others in their demographic?

Despite mostly being clear schizophrenics?

>AK is still the most common
>right?

You say that as if it will ever be out-produced.

Regardless, 1911, familia.

http://listverse.com/2012/10/02/top-10-most-popular-firearms/

If you want to be a nigger, according to the NFA the most produced pistol would be the mini/micro Uzi.

>>32039402
>CZ75 pattern handguns overall.

Unless you mean wonder nines in general, I gotta call bullshit on that. CZ made its millionth in 2007, the US made almost 2 million 1911s just in WW2.

>>32037968
FN only claimed 1,000,000 HPs in 2011 as well, I doubt they'd round down an entire million so I think the 1911 has to be the winner overall, unless you include the entire Glock family (5mil sold as of 2007)

>>32037978
>probably the makarov

Not a chance. What is your reasoning?

>>32037968
That's a real goddamn complicated question.

The 1911 was copied by a shitload of people, but so was the Makarov and the CZ75. Those aside, the Hi-Power is fairly common, as is pretty much any flavor of GLAWK.

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>>32047986
>CZ made its millionth in 2007

He didn't say CZ, he said "CZ75 pattern handguns," which would make sense considering that the CZ75 has imitations worldwide. Even Best Korea has a variation, but apparently I no longer have a pic so here's what came up when I searched for "Korea."

>>32047986
CZs weren't patented at the beginning or something and there are tons of copies of it.

>>32039480
i actually didnt know this senpai

>>32039665
America IS the world.

>>32037968
desu senpai

>>32047648
Is Milhouse a meme?

>>32048688
Eastern bloc countries had a shaky relationship with western copyright, often ignoring it, and having no provisions for having their own shit patented in the west. Hence every other gun company copied CZ's and got away with it.

>>32048176
I know that copies exist but twice as many copies of the CZ-75 as official have to have been made to match exceptionally conservative estimates of the number of 1911s out there, and that doesn't even take into account the 1911's clones. 1911 variants/clones/copies are also incredibly popular and have 64 years of potential production time on the CZ.

Heck, if you can trust them, American Rifleman claimed that just Colt had manufactured 5 million 1911 pattern pistols.

It's no aspersion on the 75 that it doesn't beat the numbers for a design popular during the biggest arms buildups in history, and with 64 years of production time on it.

>>32039480
SENPAI

>>32048147
Russia, China, NK, Vietnam, Eastern Europe, and just about every third world shithole still uses it.

>>32039480
t○bh

>>32047648
How did the Nip Man not discontinue this cruel prank?

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>>32038005
>not knowing about global filters
>Reddit spacing
>le sigh
>>>/reddit/

>>32038005
desu senpai

>>32038005
heres your u senpai

>>32039402
>tfw you will never operate with a gyrojet carbine.

>>32040780
Candy-ass roody-poo

>>32037968
It'd probably be Makarov, 1911, Hi-Power, and Glock (if you lump every caliber together)

desu senpai

>>32047443
More like shitty reloads causing squibs

>>32049444
Either way, it was an issue with the ammunition.

Rifle is fine

>>32039480
All cap C u c k should become KEK too.
Although it definitely hasn't been happening for two years, only since about a couple months after gook moot took over.

>>32038005
Include me in the screencap.
Also r/4chan are cucks.

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>>32038005
EHHHHH?!
ANTO BAKAAAA?

Mauser 98 variants

>>32051507
Came here just to say this
Of the roughly 500-600 mil guns in the world, around 300 mil are Mauser 98 variants. Fucking everyone made them, the Yugos, the Czechs, the Chinese/Taiwanese, the Spanish, etc.
By comparison there are around 100 mil AK variants out there.

As for the question, most likely the Ruby, the Spanish made m i l l i o n s of them and fucktons of variations lasted in production up until the 80s/90s like the Star pistols (yes, the Star Model A's and B's were successors to the Ruby, along with their own successors).

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>>32038005
How retarded are you?
>shitty resolution pic related: you

>>32037968
The AKM is the most common assault rifle/firearm in the world, primarily due to all the different variants by other countries. The most common handgun? Either Glock or Makarov PM, I figure.

>>32038418
I love the M1911, but it's not a particularly popular pistol for Military service. Good call on bringing up the Hi Power and TT33 though. TT33 is still being produced in China and North Korea, I hear. That's about 76 years of continuous mass production on a Military scale. What about other firearms?

>Bolt Action
Mosin (Yes, even though Mauser variants are common as fuck)

>Semi-auto only rifle
SKS-45

>Revolver
M1895 Nagant or S&W Model 10

>SMG
PPS-43?

>LMG
RPK?

>HMG
M2 Browning, no doubt

>.22lr
Ruger 10/22

>>32049444
How can it be a squib? He was firing until it blew up. If a round was a squib, then the firearm would have malfunctioned, necessitating the dude to work the bolt, eject the spent casing that held the squib load, load another one, fire, and THEN experience a kerboom.

>>32051747
How many SKS were there compared to semi-auto FAL rifles?

>>32053656
I don't know, but China still produces SKSs to my knowledge, so I definitely think there's more SKSs than L1A1s/C1s.

>>32038005

very good post

>>32037968
1911. Everyone makes a fucking 1911

>>32043565
this, desu

>>32051747
>Mauser definitely takes bolt action
>SKS probably right
>Peacemaker/Colt Single Action Armyt for revolvers
>UZI no doubt for SMG
>RPK is probably right
>M2 100% right
>fuck 22, but the 10/22 is right

DESU probably makarov

>>32038005
Tbh
Senpai

desu senpai I hate my life

>>32056548
I'm almost certain that later Colt and S&W .38 and .45 hand ejector revolvers saw more proliferation than the Single Action Army

Glocks only common in us. Makarov overtakes it by a long shot.

>>32054657
Only Americans use it, so there are relatively few when compared to makarovs and glocks

should i get a makarov for my first gun? seems like some people conceal carry it and stuff. i want something cheap that takes cheap ammo

>>32044521
That's a non sequitur because there were actual changes from the AK47 to the AKM, where any milspec AR15 has interchangeable parts, regardless of if it's armalite or not

senpai

>>32037968
Look at what police bring in from criminals senpai. Since they're stolen rather than bought it's a good sample of what Americans are buying for pistols. It's not glocks with extending magazines but cheap .38s.

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>>32041610
>weeaboo
Fun fact: Weeaboo was also a word filter that would replace wapanese. Weeaboo is a meaningless word, but for some reason it caught on, and no one says wapanese anymore.

>>32058182
Weeaboo also used to mean "insidiously and annoyingly obsessed with everything japanese", before it became "likes some japanese things)

>>32038418
1911 is not popular outside the US

>>32058223
Not as popular as a Glock or Hi-Power, no, but it's seen it's fair use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol#Users

Not to mention that it's generally a liked pistol by civilian shooters where this is possible.

>>32058223
I'm not the only Canadian who got an M1911 for their first pistol. Just saying. Perhaps you should say the M1911 is not popular outside of North America, because if they weren't popular in Canada then we wouldn't be importing so many Chinese clones of it, and I doubt it's particularly rare in Mexico.

>>32040780
desu senpai, baka

>>32038005
DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
SENPAI

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>>32038005
shm desu senpai