/akg/ AK General

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Happy Birthday 4chan edition?

>got a bulgarian surplus FCG on the way

Anybody have experience with the Hungarian AMDs? They look kinda neat, and they are pretty cheap.

>>31521744
im about to buy a kit and build one soon.

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>>31521744
The ones with chrome lined barrels are nice. Us barrels are shit on the new century amds.

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>>31521740
Seems it is.
They grow up so fast.

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>>31520718
>DDI's and U.S. made century is shit
That leaves us with the PSA Gen 2 which appears to be worth its price.

>If you don't like arsenal then don't buy one
I didn't. I bought an qt WASR instead.

>Stop crying
Hard to when I am asked about my opinion.

>>31521740
Dumb question but do surplus FCG need any special fitting or modification to fit in a semi-auto AK?

Is the lack of Finnish AK imports a by-name ban or disinterest from Sako/Valmet?

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>>31521792
I like your mag stack.

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Anyone tried those Croation BHO mags that have been popping up lately?

>>31521801

Nevermind, answered my question, fucking specific import bans. We ought to push for removal of the 89 import ban. Doing so would kick the legs out from under almost all of the bans since as they all rely on its language.

>>31521792

how can I get an affordable stack of bakes like this? no "get time machine 10 years ago" replies please.

>>31521805
Not mine, unfortunately.
My mag collection is slightly more humble.

At my gun show (Saxet anyone?) and I'm looking for a good buy on an AK. Anyone have the list of makes that don't suck? Might walk out with a WASR today since everything else are Century.

>>31522067
Nearly everything that's not IO, RAS, C39. Get a set of go/nogo gauges. Look for buffers, as they can hide signs the gun is out of spec.

>>31522067
If you find an IO with the "QC Inspected" sticker, those are usually good to go. They're a steal. Don't buy an IO without that sticker though.

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>>31522133
>>31522133
Kys

>>31522133
kek

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>>31522133
The famous shit pile that the AK OU guys had crap out on them definitely had that sticker.

>>31521871
>affordable

No, they'll never be affordable. Buy a set or one each time you buy ammo or other accessories. This is what I'm doing and I already have 9 delicious plums in the 5.45 variety

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>>31522133

>>31522113
Just about everything is new. WASR might be hard to find because MADE IN AMERICA.

It's hard out here for a Redguard.

>>31522195
What? WASR's are made in Romania. RAS are shit american made.

>>31522195
>WASR might be hard to find because MADE IN AMERICA
What?

>>31522208
>>31522214
Everyone here is big on Made In America. Not that the rifle is American Made. People won't care if it's lower quality so long as it's American.

>>31521871
get time machine 11 years ago.

>>31522195
Just found a WASR. ONLY one at the show.

>>31521816
Yeah, I bought a few for my N-pap. They're nice, but the magwell fitting on my rifle was a bit crap, so I had to dremel them. Took me about 5minutes for each magazine. But other than that they seem to be good.

On a sidenote, bulgarian metal mags fit perfectly on my rifle, almost like it was made just for them.

>>31522133
someone would just put a sticker on something, saying it is good, when it is in fact, a lie? People would just do that?

>>31522269
WASRs have been shit ever since they stopped using surplus parts. The parts Cugir makes now are no better than American made parts.

An IO with the QC inspected sticker is the best value AK you will find at that gun show. They are the hidden gem of the AK world.

>>31522546
Found your "hidden gem" with rust on the rivets and a fucked up cleaning rod.

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Got a flat for my pps-ak. Next item to buy is a 9mm barrel blank.

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thinking about finally getting an optic for my vz. what do you guys like?

>>31522590
Sounds like a problem with the dealer mishandling the merchandise. Point it out and Jew him down a bit, it'll make a good fixer upper.

>>31522622
I like it when people post VZ stuff in a different thread.

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>>31522790
Fuck you

>>31522790
so whats ur suggestion

Anyone have any experience fitting Russian AKSU handguards to a 104UR? It seems like a lot of material would need to be removed from the gas tube cover. I'd hate to alter the handguards and they do tend up fitting

>>31522546
Why would you lie to people like that? It's really not nice. Here's your (you).

>>31522859
No modification should be necessary at all. They should go on just like the plastic ones came off. It's not easy though.

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>>31522622
I just use regular ak optics with brass deflector and side rail. It's ok, but I'm sure there's better options.
>>31522790
Too bad there's no major variations between vzs, because it makes it hard to have much conversation about them that warrants a dedicated thread.
I wish the vz family of guns had even 25% the diversity of the aks you can buy. Basically a couple calibers, and a couple barrel length options, otherwise it's mostly just aftermarket plastic etc.

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Anyone want a set of GSSH-01s?
They don't seal very well so it kind of sucks for indoor ranges and the net was uncomfortable, so I cut it off. But if you're going for that "Ratnik" look, it's pretty cool.

>>31523044
How much?

>>31523044
>so I cut it off.
i wanted them until that point

>>31523049
30$ including shipping
>>31523074
welp

>>31523091
Is the netting all fucked though? Pics

>>31523049
>boi if u don't back yo mf ass up

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>>31523130
I don't have the net anymore, it wasn't removable so I just took some scissors and cut it off, sorry m8

>>31523181
Tell me the shit still works properly though, right?

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>>31521805

Nice collection.

>>31523202
Yeah it works fine, haven't had a problem with it's function.
Performance wise they're lacking, it filters out all the harmful frequencies so I don't get EEEEEEEEE but its still very loud, if that makes any sense; but that might just be because I mostly shoot indoors, not many outdoor ranges here.

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>>31523251
nigga I'm just here to collect if I want good active headphones I'll buy them. I guess it's an ok price even if you fucked with my
>A U T H E N T I C
just a bit. You got a throwaway email

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Is an SLR-107 or x39 Vepr accurate enough to be useful for hunting and fun to plink with, or am I better off getting a bolt action and a cheaper AK? Iowa unrelated.

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What is, in general some of the best aks that money can buy?

>>31523281
[email protected]

>>31523290
i too was born without nipples

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>>31523290
Remove this depraved image

>>31523660
No.

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>>31523660

>>31523660
>that image

don't make me feel that feel ;-;

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>F U T U R E A K
range report is in

I'm not a very good shooter, but I still have a good impression of the rifle and how it can perform.

>>31521816
Work fine for me. The bottom plate is a little loose, but it's not a problem.
>>31523660
i want to believe

>>31523691
can you repost that image without the stupid hat.
Kills my boner, I hate politics, now if she was wearing an ss uniform threating me that would be a different story.

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>>31523787
Nigga what the fuck is this """"accuracy""""

>>31523798
I only have the superior version

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Back to black polymer on the SLR soon

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>>31523787
>>31523814
The wider groups are me being a faggot and not applying fundamentals of marksmanship; circled ones are more relevant to the performance of the rifle. I'd estimate it's about 1.5-2MOA.

The only wear visible was from ejection, pic related.

>>31523814
At some point physics takes over and hampers the AK's accuracy.

>All that shit rattling around in contact with the barrel

>>31523841
>literally a 2 inch group at 25yd
nigger no

>>31523848
I put down close to actual 2moa accuracy last time I shot my SLR, I'll have to take pics next time I take it shooting or something

>>31521816
They're the same as yugo BHO mags, just new production.

>>31522427
Ironically yugo mags don't fit yugo guns... a lot of mags don't. On my PAP pistol only Korean mags would fit.

>>31523848
Also note I was shooting with a micro red dot. I can't make out features on the target at that range, just holding at a certain spot relative to edge of the backer.

Zeroed at 25yds so I was holding about 6" low for 100yds.

If it was in a lead sled you might get 1.5MOA.

>>31523292
>a best tier
Saiga & vepr

>waste your money tier
Arsenal.

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>>31523865
nigger yes

offhand means unsupported

>the more you know

>>31523907
Your lack of proper stances doesn't change that you had a 2 inch group at 25 yards. And the 100 yard groups are much bigger than 2moa. You can't just claim whatever you want after shooting groups that don't support your claim. Like I'm not tryna fuck with you but there is no evidence I see to put it anywhere close to 1.5moa

>>31523930
Yeah, that's why I /estimate/ 2MOA. Not claiming anything.

Take this data with a grain of salt. I'm still learning and I hope to help others along the way.

>>31524070
Grab a cheap bag or some sort of rest and just bench it at 25 yards, easiest way to go about it

>>31523787
...so this is the power...of free floating...

You need to put a magnified optic on there and shoot from a rest to get a good idea of the true mechanical accuracy of the rifle

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A few notes about the rifle:
>handguard is comfy and will let you fulfill your TOB fantasies
>super ergonomic, could not find an uncomfortable position or way to hold it, even as a southpaw
>handguard is very well isolated from heat, as it is free floating and far enough away from the barrel
>well balanced
>safety is stiff but should easily break in, parts in general are TIGHT

Will report back if it KBs or something, I've looked it over well and don't have any cause for concern.

It didn't have any issues with Croat BHO mags or the MOE PMAG it shipped with. Bakes will be tested in a few weeks.

>>31524121
roger. at the end of the day I had a good time. Will go get more practice.
>>31524189
yup.

It doesn't contact the handguard at rest, but there's only about 2mm of space between the gas block and the handguard (pic related). I can make them contact by moving the barrel with two fingers. The muzzle device it ships with isn't directionally biased, but if it were they would certainly contact. Does it matter? Maybe? Perhaps a better question is: Would the bullet leave the barrel before the barrel whipped into the handguard and introduced weird harmonic properties? I don't know. Perhaps a richfag can take slow motion video and answer that. In the meantime I'll look for wear in that area. I don't see any now, and I probably won't with this muzzle device. No idea why they made the tolerances that tight.

With regards to a bipod, however, the upper/handguard is so damn rigid that it would never be an issue. I doubt doing pushups would bend it even 2mm.

>self identified Vietnam Vet gave me an earful for using a red dot at 100yds then we talked about his AK rifles, NFA stuff, and I recommended him to the NFA shoot

>>31523012

I have a pso-1. It's orange. Is there a problem with these? Like, it's really fucking orange looking out of it.

>>31524422
The gas from the discharged round won't enter the muzzle brake in any significant amount until the bullet has left the barrel

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>>31524474
That's what they do with the extra iodine orange, seal it in the optic for safe keeping
>fucking russians and their orange everything

Nah, it's a filter. You can remove it.

>>31524513
The barrel begins to oscillate/resonate before the round exits though, correct? The extent of which this happens depends on the barrel profile and composition (also determines natural frequency). It probably reaches peak oscillation around the time the round exits, provided the barrel is designed for a reasonable burn rate (97-99%), and then the response of the brake will begin to take over at which point it doesn't matter too much. Any oscillation in the barrel should dampen before the next round is capable of being fired, else the barrel would be unstable (this probably determines the minimum requirement for rigidity).

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>>31524474
Sounds like you've got the piece at the bottom in pic related, most done even have it when it comes to the Romanian scopes at least.

Why is no polished, stainless or Chrome whatever bolt carrier and bolt for sale?

How much fitting needed for switching out these parts?

I think my gas block should have been installed further down? Gastube rattles and doesn't slip as far as it could onto gas block. Can I replace with a 1mm longer tube or do I need to order the spring from k-var?

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>>31522937
I finally got them on. I was putting it on backwards at first, but after looking at some pictures I figured it out. It's just different than AKM furniture.

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>>31524524
Are you me?

Are IMI Defense polymer magazines good for ak47?

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I did have to remove quite a bit of material, from the pictures I found, I assume this is normal?

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>>31525084
nah, mine's a triangle folder SLR-104FR

I would certainly go for a russian laminate stock though.

>>31525143
Yup. So long as it lines up well and you don't fear for its structural integrity. Would advise you refrain from removing the upper handguard from the gas tube too often, they are most likely to break at that time

>>31523787
Of my AR got those groups, I'd sell it tomorrow.

I'm assuming that was standing at least, it's not so bad if you were standing.

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Help I can't put my new gun back together.

>>31525582
smack that bitch
https://youtu.be/gQY0dgAC43A?t=5m41s

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>>31525582
Just give it to one of us then since you can't handle it

>>31525582
B8

>>31525697
M8 I wish this was b8 I have dumbs can't get on.

>>31525726
Yea yea nice rifle m8

>>31523281
Doesn't that fore grip get in the way when reloading 30rd mags? Also is the AKT drop in a solid purchase?

>>31525784
It has been moved since, it doesn't really affect much but one of my mags has a slightly bigger feed lip so I moved it forward anyways. Don't use the AKT myself but I've heard pretty good reviews about it. I bought a surplus FA pack since I like single stage triggers better though

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so i can post my ak's here eh

>>31521816
Had problems with a batch i ordered. Half were fine, a few took some fitting, and one or two i gave up on. I would go with something else. The ones that do fit are tight as fuck.

>>31524772
Leave it alone

>>31525823
Nice type 56 barrel assy

>>31525726
You can use a screwdriver to push in the button if it's giving you that much trouble.

Keep at it. Own up to these moments and you will not only learn to respect your rifle more, but you will become a better person.

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>>31525823
going to need to see close-ups of the rifle on the bottom left

>>31525832
I know you're right but the wobble in gas tube bothers me at any rate.

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>>31525881
nice handguards

I'm about to fall for the plum meme, myself.

>>31525881
you mean the maadi build??

>>31521744
I have a 90% build i got from classic that finished up and it functions well.

>>31525846
Only took me about a hour but I figured it out Jew gun is jewy

>>31525931
y-yeah, it's for reference
>>31525920
thanks. are those refinished?

Where can I pick up a smooth Russian dust cover for my SLR107?

>>31525971
what do you need a closeup of?

>>31521816
They work well after you file them a bit so they actually fit. They seem to be justva tad too big on the ramp of the rear lug preventing it from locking in.

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>>31525056
>>31525143
Nice vented handguards

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>>31525920
If I can find the right set, I'm setting up to fall for the laminate meme

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>>31525971
Huh, pic was flipped for some reason. They are from a complete AK-74 take-off set, I have the stock and laminate grip in a drawer. They are not refinished. A couple scuffs and scratches but otherwise great condition.

I'd really like to find a nice non-vented set. My current set is good but the color isn't exactly my preference. Looks funky in sunlight.

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>>31526026
>>31525971

>>31526069
$99 bucks too pretty happy

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>>31526069
I think the Obzor is ugly as sin, but for some reason it just works on a krink.

Pic related is perfect.

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to the anon looking for feedback on the DI Optical FC1, a few notes:
>I have astigmatism which makes various red dots look fucked up to varying degrees, but this one is a perfect dot always
>it's extremely compact, too compact
>no issues with mount on 7.62x39
>torqued the sight on by hand and had no loss of zero or screws walking out (may loctite later)
>due to the nature of the prism, you can see the emitter from the front, and you can also see the dot from the front
>auto shutoff works (~10hrs)
>>31526026
i'm just giving you a hard time, but it caught my eye. What receiver did you build it on, and what barrel? Feel free to post pics however you like.
>>31526093
ah, much better pic. The palm swell looks kind of rounded off, do you think it could have been arsenal refinished? Mine is really quite square.
>>31526108
beautiful. why did you go with that rail over a traditional one though? does it provide a better lockup?
>>31526135
looks good on 100 series too, imo, but I went for a PK-A (in the mail, super hype). Coolest part about the obzor is that it has legitimate advantages over other dual illuminated optics, I love the brightness adjustment and filter options.

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>>31526173
pic of emitter
hope that helps

>>31526135
>ugly as sin

why is this phrase being used so often recently?

>>31526173
mckay receiver. not sure about barrel desu i got it from tothtool with the barrel already on there.
it didnt have a rail with it and i figured id try the mastermount cuz it seemd a lot easier than getting back on the drill. it seems to work fine.

>>31524703
>>31524524

Right, it came with my Romanian PSL. What should I do?

>>31526367
Usually optical filters screw on to the objective lens, so start there.
>>31526226
Oh, that is a neat method of attachment. If it were me, I'd still drill and mount a real rail though, if only to satiate my autism. Was looking into it recently as I had a good offer on a Maadi RPM. Thought about making it into a false tariq sniper.

>>31526418

It's like permanently on there and can't be unscrewed.

>>31526418
>Tariq
s/b tabuk, but could be any hackjob that the hajis use in their crows nests

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pic not mine; hype for this optic to arrive
>>31526476
Can you see a seam where it's clearly independent of the objective lens? It probably has some kind of thread locker on it. Did you get it from someone in the US, or was it imported directly? May help to determine what kind of locker it has, and how we can remove it
>SOP is to apply heat which will weaken the adhesive, but i would be extra careful because of proximity to your precious optic

>>31526476
also, post pictures to the best of your ability

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Pics of the orange optic incoming. Halp

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Anyone else looking forward to DDIs new AKs? i kind of want to pick up their side folder.

>>31526207
it's an old phrase, maybe you are experiencing baader-meinhof phenomenon

>>31526173
I thought the more rounded swell with shallower finger groove simply meant it was an earlier "type-1" 74 handguard. Is there more to it?

>>31526642
I really hope they turn out to be good rifles. I'll buy a folder and use the shit out of it where I'd otherwise feel bad about scuffing up my other AKs.

So here is my humble start into 5.45, but I don't have a rifle for it yet.. Whats the best bang for buck option here? The DDIs seem to have dried up, and arsenal is out of my budget currently

>>31526643
uh, the Baader-Meonhoff phenomenon?
leftist German terrorists are gonna kidnap a judge?

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>>31526682
You can find cheap Arsenals in 5.45 if you look around. Used market for 5.45 is actually pretty decent compared to 7.62. Try buying a package deal and selling a bunch of the shit you don't want from it

>inb4 i tell this faggot story again

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To everyone wondering g about the group buy, I'm still assembling mags and rounding up final payments. Just worked a 12 hour day and I long for the sweet embrace of death.

>>31526682
I would stay out of 5.45 unless you have money to burn right now. There really isn't a good option besides an SLR, SGL, DDI, or maybe a kit build.

5.45 is uniquely vulnerable to new import restrictions/sanctions. Oddly, it's a good time to jump in if you have a lot of money. People are getting out of the caliber and trying to dump rifles, ammo, and accessories in bundles for a lump sum.

>>31526696
https://www.damninteresting.com/the-baader-meinhof-phenomenon/

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>>31526682
forgot pic

>>31526652
>>31526641
>>31526623
>>31526593
>>31526576
>>31526418

Pics posted, plz help. Look at how orange that is. :(

>>31526623
>>31526641
>>31526652
oh, nice. so it looks to be the same one in this link:
https://www.apexgunparts.com/romanian-psl-fpk-7-62x54r-posp-scope-filter-amber-nos.html
See how tall the actual piece is? It might be glued from the back edge. I've been surfing around with terms like "psl scope filter". It looks like apex just taped theirs on, but yours is glued.

Your best angle of attack is probably to observe the rear side and look for openings.

Worst case scenario, tape off the part of your scope you don't want to scratch and twist it off with vice grips. Best of luck, I'm going to call it a night.

If you feel unsure about the next step, sleep on it.
>>31526643
didn't know that. Mine must be older, but it can't be much older. I know it wasn't issued.
>>31526682
keep your eyes peeled and save in the meantime, don't rush into a decision
>>31526723
godspeed, my man. don't overdo it though. you've been great to us and you deserve to rest. don't be a drunk ivan and write illegible addresses

>>31526786
by older I mean older than plum, but not older than your set

>>31526809
The laminate handguards issued in 85 (same year as the transition to plum) had no vents at all, deeper finger groove, and the more angular swell.

>>31526367
It comes off, I guarantee it. I'm looking at mine, and it's only stuck on there via friction, nothing else.

>>31526623
>>31526641
>>31527013
And I should add, it is on there tight. I used a scrwedriver in the tiny grooves to slowly budge it off from the sides.

>>31521694
So has anyone bought one of these $200 Cmc triggers?

>>31522067
Nigger wait for the one on the 15/16 at Freeman, you'll have a better selection. Got an Arsenal for a great deal.

>>31526723
>>31526723
So I send you final payment now?

>>31526723
Anyone that doesnt pay up ill take there mags.

>>31527423
*thier

>>31527440
**their

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>>31527453
Thanks im fucking up....

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Any info on these stocks? I've only seen them in photos.

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>>31527476

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>>31527491

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>tfw you stumble across something rare rare on gunbroker, listed without an image, no bids

>>31527474

So we give VaFag second payment now?
He hasn't responded to the emails I sent.

I want to ensure the safety of my oranges.

>>31527518
I'm curious

how rare

>>31527538
What do mean second payment? Ive already paid the entire amount.

>>31527518
Link, so I can steal it and crush your dreams.

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>>31527541
tfw it's a prototype Russian 4.5mm plum folder

>>31527541
Not you and Zasta master of slavshit rare, but I haven't seen any in a long time

>>31527558
How many did you order?

>>31527695

Most likely not as many as you this time.
Just saying i was under the assumption that they were paid upfront.

Any /Akg/ dudes live in Alaska?

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Bought my first AK today, liking it so far.

>>31527720
SLR104? Nice choice.

>>31527719
I wonder if the 907 Kalash guys ever browse here.

>>31527719
There was an Alaskan who posted here frequently with a trip who would make webms of him shooting his chinese .223 AK

dunno if he posts anymore

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>>31527239
Yes please. I need to go through all the emails to make sure I have everyone's payments
>>31527423
Duly noted. Also, the no. 864 mag you mentioned last (?) Thread had this on the other side. It's a sign

>>31527715
This is my first time buying (a bit nervous about it desu) and apparently I had a larger order.

I'm probably just gonna send the rest tonight. I'm reasonably satisfied with the pics that have been posted.

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>>31527808
Dude can i get that one....?
Tula or izhmash.

>>31527808
Sent it actually just now just now
egk.atf at gmail .com

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>>31527809
Hes good for it man. Its just alot of work for one person, takes time.

>>31527824
Izzy
>>31527830
Cheers

>>31527857

Any idea on when you will be shipping mags? I haven't been on in a while.

>>31527809
Can vouche for him, bought 10 plums some months ago. Other option is just paying the market price on the files.. so

Before the group buy thought I wouldn't be able to afford a full set of bakes.

I'm excited to get them.

Now I just need to convert the vepr

Mag dumps soon

When the next group buy comes along imma order sum 5.45 mags. I want to get a krink next.

AKs are just so much more fun than ARs

>>31528140
Yeah, do one mid level AR and call it a day

So I've been stalking AK Files for a few days and they still haven't confirmed me. Found some beautiful AK74 furniture that was made and fits on AKM pattern guns but the lightning cut in the stock is going to bug me. Should I just suck it up or try to find a proper AKM set?

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>>31527766
Plan to take it for a whirl tomorrow.

>>31528282
There is way too much surplus wood out there to buy something you don't actually want. Just wait a while and someone will have what you're looking for.

Also, any standard AK-74 wood will fit on any standard AKM, and vice versa. Just how it works.

>>31528300
Keep the hood safe h

>>31528282
Buy a proper set, they aren't exactly rare or anything, they're common as fuck.

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>>31528282
Dude there is furniture out there by the billions, find the one that truly speaks to you

>>31528344
>>31528356
>>31528384

Thanks for setting me straight anons, I'm going to get polish/Russian laminated AKM wood and I won't settle for less.

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Hey guys can i join?

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>tfw S T I L L no proper slant brake

>>31528402
That's the spirit

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>>31528422
no.

>>31528448
> 2016 still using outdated slant

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>>31528680
>Caring about making your AK highspeedlowdragwhizbang
>Not wanting to make your rifle as period correct as possible

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>>31528402
If you're interested in the lighter colored Polish laminate, here are some sets in stock: http://armsofamerica.com/newpolishlaminateakwoodstocksetwpistolgripbywbpspecialintroductoryprice9995.aspx

The buttstock is (partially?) drilled for a cleaning kit but it has a buttplate with no trapdoor. I ended up using the handguards and pistol grip with a stock I already had.

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>>31528716
por que no los dos

>even if tactical is expensive

I bought a James River Armory Bulgarian '74 last week.
When I received it, I couldn't insert any mags into it.
I took it to my gunsmith and he filed some of the magwell conversion rail thingamajigs so mags could be inserted.
Now the mags lock out of alignment with the barrel, and letting the bolt go home on a live round causes it to get jammed up an inch from the trunnion, and it takes an extreme amount of force to get it unstuck.
The cases are scraped and mauled from the chamber, and (alarmingly) the primer is slightly struck.

Basically, don't buy one of these.

>>31528900
We could have told you that.

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Which one of you fucking weebs is this? Absolutely disgusting.

WASR 3 IMPORTS WHEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAあああああああああ

>>31528937

Well, I have one of their AKMs and it's magnificent. It's really well made.

I thought their '74s would be ok. Guess not.

>>31529051
2*

>>31528448
cmon man, get a lantac dragon gunfighter mod and some pmags for your maadi. Also, look into keymod for a light attach point. That """crutch""" is cancer

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>>31529119
>pmags
get outtt

Best optic for >300 yards?
IYPO

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Huh, neato AKS-74

>>31529139
Nice double meme very ironic touché

>>31529149
Forward this to piece of history

>>31529149
Wonder what the extra rivet is for.

>I want star axis pin dimples

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>>31529149
>>31529255
Id guess for the ejector

>>31529290
Why the longer barrel?

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>>31529317
I dont think its longer, it might look that way because because it doesn't have a normal 74 FSB, also I like the bayo lug.

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Neato.

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>>31529119

>>31528717
Wow thanks anon, so it is pretty worth then even with the stock? I'm coming from US importlaw cancer wood.

>>31529446
Yeah the handguards and grip are mint condition new production Radom. The buttstock is WBP but matches decently. That same site sells trapdoor kits if you want to make the stock accept a cleaning kit. Mine looks like it would need drilled out a little deeper, the kit doesn't go in deep enough with a spring installed. I just said fuck it and put on a matching stock i had in the parts bin.

What rifle will you be putting the furniture on?

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>>31529514
It's a run of the mill WASR-10 that I got for a pretty good price, it's my first AK. (potato pic related) I think with the right stock and a bakelite mag it can look pretty sex in my eyes anyway.

>>31523798
>I hate politics

must be a Bern victim

>>31529534
>original shit wood
>rubber condom on charging handle
at least you have a metal mag

>>31529571

It's [spoiler]Korean :( [/spoiler]

But hey for $450 it's a cugir WASR and not an IO so I'm happy.

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>>31529534
I think the soviet laminate looks best with bakelite mags, so definitely keep considering that. Register for AKfiles marketplace if you haven't already.

Be patient and you will find what you want. I'm guessing you want a look like this pic?

>>31529585
you're a failure

>>31529588
Yeah that's kind of what I was going for. I already placed the order should I cancel it?

>>31529593
I try

>>31529608
Up to you my man. Nice laminate is expensive, that polish set is a good deal.

if you're like me you will buy and sell a few sets until you find the one that is perfect for the rifle in your eyes

>>31529671
How expensive does soviet laminate go for? Also is there a reason it seems that people are only really selling sets with the lightning ak74 style cut in the stocks?

>>31529608
you fail

>>31529685
depends, refinished sets are cheaper but don't always look "correct."

AKM handguards are both vented, AK74 handguards only the upper is vented, if at all. AK74 lower handguards also has a tension spring in the back.

>>31529713
I was talking about in the rear stock there is a gash in 74 stocks but it is solid in AKM stocks. I never noticed the thing about the vents on the bottom fore grip though.

I think I might just try this polish kit for now, all else fails I'll use steel mags.

>>31529736
Yeah, i was just listing some differences between AKM and AK74 furniture. The lightning cut in the stock is another. Once you notice these things you can't unsee them. That polish set will do you just fine.

how much truth is there to the aks durability and reliability? in a shtf scenario which would be the least likely to break or malfunction in some way? the ar or the ak?

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>>31529786
The design of the ak is just simpler in general, there's less to go wrong with it. These rifles don't have the reputation they do for nothing.

Just have to make sure it's a quality AK, not a shitty I.O or some other garbage.

These rifles are literally shot until their handguards bust into flames and they keep going.

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So I'm cleaning my N-Pap and I notice this pin has started walking out, pretty loose. Is this shitty quality control on Century's side, and if so, how do I fix?

Appreciate any input.

>>31529856
probably just an improperly installed retaining wire
get a retaining plate

>>31529829
i see. what are high/top quality variants or brands? all ive really heard of are slr aks.

also which would be better for shtf in your opinion anons? 5.45 or 7.62?

>>31529829

>not posting the full vid for us to see!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Byfd-Mrp78&list=PLbNqaauZ_b1785kXF2PfZYs5aR4JO67U9&index=1&spfreload=10

>>31529786
AK's can malfunction like any other rifle, and indeed are less closed-off to the environment than an AR. The big difference is the speed at which the rifle can be brought up once it goes down. AK field strip speed is unparalleled, and everything is easily accessible. Dip it in water at most and you're good. The AR can keep the environment out for longer, but the shit WILL eventually ingress, and once it does you will need to really get in there and give it a good cleaning.

Another factor is lube. An AK will run just fine with no lubrication (not that i recommend it). If you don't lube your AR you will pay for it. Not a huge deal, but something to consider.

None of this is meant to shit on AR's, they are perfectly fine and reliable in field conditions, jam-o-matic is a meme.

>>31529786

what do you think would run longer after being completely stripped bone dry with rubbing alcohol, and zero lubricant applied.


A AR or AK?


case settled.

>>31529920
>>31529916
now tell me what are the best aks to buy and if i should go 5.45 or 7.62 for shtf scenario pls

>>31529874
first ak get 7.62

>>31529909

>Not just posting the entire documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bHQujjarpc

>>31529873
thanks

>>31529942
Depends on what you want. 5.45 is better for wounding and for more follow-up shots due to lighter case sizes.

7.62 for the dank one taps.

I've heard that the 7.62 is more plentiful, but you might be able to force a 5.56 to fit into the 5.45 breech (single shot).

7.62 is much easier to find drum mags for.

>>31526718
how do you like the troy hand guard?

>>31529971
5.45 wasn't designed to wound.

they just basically took the idea of 5.56 and slavd it up.

The fudd wounding meme needs to die.

The reason why it look horrible in Afghanistan during the 80's is because the muj didn't have proper medical care.

Sight in Distance?

I have easiest access to a 25 yard range.
With my AR, I sighted it in 1" low at 25 yards and was told that was the same as sighting it in at 50 yards.

Same true for an AK?

Does the AK front post just unscrew?

Does 1 turn = 1moa?

What is with the deal with the rear sight, if I put it all the way to the back it actually raises it, why?

I'm new to AKs, the windage is 100% spot on, the elevation is adjusted to 10 yards for poa=poi, it's like 4" or so high at 25 yards, currently. How do I sight in an AK?

>>31531667
>What is with the deal with the rear sight, if I put it all the way to the back it actually raises it, why?

The lowest setting is the same as the 300m. That was the standard "Battle" distance they anticipated, and the commies were trained to aim for the naval at under 300m. It wasn't precise, but you had a pretty good chance of hitting a man's torso this way.

Also what cartridge? 7.62x39 and 5.45 are each different.

>>31531721
Cool info, thank you.
It's a 7.62x39

>>31531721
I found this:

Zero the rifle at "25 yards" on the "2" setting on the sight leaf and apparently that makes the "2" setting good for 25 and 200 yards (and be able to hit "the paper" anywhere in between 25-220 on that setting for the most part) and when put on the "1" setting you will then get a nice 100 yard shot (with Fine Tuning for the 100, he said. (But if you do "fine tuning" wouldn't that throw off your original 25 yard zero by messing with the elevation??). He said the "3" setting is the same as the "Battle Setting" (Not sure if he meant height wise on the actual sight leaf) or if meaning just accuracy).

So should I just sight it in at number 2 on the rear sight at 25 yards and then it will be sighted in at 100 yards on the 1 setting?
Yes, I know it's meters...

>>31521816
Shit and out of spec. The only reason you get these is because all else was Korean. Avoid them like the plague especially if they come in blue plastic wrap.

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>>31531767

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>>31531721
>>31531767
>>31532265

>>31522133
Don't buy one period. Fixed that for you.

Anyone here buy one of those definitive arms dakm rifles when the were back in stock? We try any good? Worth the price? Impressions?

>>31532444
Were they any good*

I hate my phone.

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Someday, I'll find a 1P63 obzor.

>>31532498
Where's the dimples?

>>31532576
>dimples
It's just stamped, not milled. Unless there is some /akg/ maymay I'm not hip to.

>>31532658
Magwell dimples that a stamped receiver should have to hold mags steady.

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>>31532658
It's not a meme, it's a pretty standard feature for most stamped guns, though it wasn't a part of the stampings on some Saigas.

It's not a biggie because you likely have plates on the inside of the magwell that serves the same purpose.

The dimples are what's "correct" for clones though.

>>31526173
>to the anon looking for feedback on the DI Optical FC1
That was me!

How do you mean by "too compact"? Is the field of view not very good when looking through it?

>>31532576
Old sayguhs and .223 ones (some exceptions) don't have them

>>31532811
I knew that.

>>31532833
Cool

>>31532576
>>31532694
>>31532753
I also have a saiga. Can confirm it doesnt come with dimples. Kind of a bummer I know.

>>31532948
Mine do.

>>31532444
Yeah I bought a DAKM last time they were in stock. This is it>>31528717

It's a great rifle. DA's parkerizing is flawless, everything is nice and straight, the action is very smooth, and it shoots 2MOA easily.

The polymer furniture that it comes with is bottom of the barrel garbage, really cheapens the initial impression out of the box.

Mine is set up as a Polish PMK clone.

>>31532767
Nah, I'm just messing around. The FOV is great.
Due to it's prismatic nature, it's extremely compact lengthwise while still being sealed. That's a huge advantage; no worries about your emitter getting mucked up as you would with an open reflex sight, and no bulkiness like a sealed optic which needs to be nitrogen purged (i.e. Aimpoint PRO).

>>31533079
Sounds legit. Are you able to cowitness your irons through it?

>>31533013
Looks sexy friend. I was thinking about getting one, if they ever come back in stock. Does it have good magazine lock up or favor some mags better than others? And is the weird looking brake it comes with effective?

Sorry for all the q's

>>31533174
Na go ahead and ask, there really isn't much info out there except Bob Sled's videos.

Mag lockup is fine, a few of my Hungarian mags are hard to remove. Bakelite, magpul, and most steel mags fit well.

The brake that came on the rifle went straight to the parts bin and was never used. I put on a slant for the look. I'm sure it's fine though.

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Question.

What is it about the INSAS rifle that's so terrible?

And why is it so unsuccessful compared to other "still AK pattern but halfway transitioning towards NATO spec" rifles like the Beryl that perform fantastically?

>>31533236
>>31533236
mostly poor workmanship, materials, and QC
the stock and mags are made by a plastic furniture manufacturer and must have insufficient glass fiber reinforcing
shit like that

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What is the going price for uncoverted Saigas?

>>31533228
I see. Thanks for the info friend.

>>31533697
I paid 600 for my x39

>>31533697
Just got a 7.62x39 earlier this year for 650. Had a .223 on layaway also but canceled it. Would have been 620 after tax.

where do most of you get your 5.45?

>>31534134
sgammo

they have milspec (lacquered and sealed) wolf in stock right now

>>31532998
my 7.62x39 did not. Nor have any of the other 7.62x39 saigas ive seen.

>>31533697
I got mine in 2014 for 350. And I live in new york.

>>31534211
I picked up 750 of that stuff, bretty gud food?

I just secured an Atlantic Tantal. Fingers crossed.

>>31534366
You got a good deal then. Older saigas didnt have dimples. Ive had two 7.62s, a 5.45 and pkayed with a .223. All had dimples.

>>31534437
((5.56 barrel))

>>31534366
>Nor have any of the other 7.62x39 saigas ive seen.
7.62 Saiga owner here, appears to be a 2014 production (if the 14 under one of the symbols on the right side indicates year of manufacture) and has dimples.

>>31534478
>(((/pol/ meme parentheticals)))
>(((repeating memes with no proof)))
>(((being retarded)))

I'm glad /pol/tards have started using google and skype innstead of nigger and kike, and that they've started using parentheses
makes it a whole lot easier to know what posts to disregard

>>31534478

Probably not, the description said they use Green Mountain barrels. There's no way it would be an old 5.56x45 barrel like the Centurys had.

>>31534366

>>31534434

Very good. I prefer Silver Bear for actual shooting though because of the sealant making a mess.

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>>31534513
u ok famm

>>31534513

/pol/ is always right.

>>31534631
no
tired of /pol/ and I'm tired of people just repeating shit they hear

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>Atlantic is back with the QC WASR scam for $760

wew fucking lad

>>31534638
hahahahahaha hahahahaha SO TRUE hahahahahahahah I hope your board gets deleted

>>31521816
A
FUCKING
LEAF?

when you buy an slr104 from k-var etc it says it comes with a 30 round mag, any1 know the standard mag that comes with them?

>>31534682

I'm on 8 pol faggotnigger, I only come here because this /k/ is better.

>>31534682
yfw hiroshimoot adds flags to stop shit posting aussies

>>31534727
Should come with a circle 10

>>31534476
yeahhh i know. it was pretty beat up but nothing that a bit of oil and refinishing couldnt fix. Gas tube is canted now but the barrel is great and dead on. Oh well.
>>31534570
hey thanks. the knowledge that it triggers some people is super refreshing.

>>31534727

Comes with a Circle (10) mag. One of the nice things about the 104 is you get a $40 mag included vs the cheaper 5 or 10 round mags in other arsenal rifles.

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>>31533697

I paid $350 for mine, unconverted. That was in 2012 I think though, so it doesn't hold. I have too much in an incomplete conversion anyway though.

>>31534650
Well fellas, i'd say we're transitioning into the election panic phase proper. This is the big overpriced restock before the plunge.

Worst case scenario: we get another really bad mass shooting (let's throw the lefties a bone and say it's a whitey this time) before election day, or worse yet before the final debate. Media goes 24/7 evil guns for a few weeks. Hillary reaffirms support for a new AWB, or a complete ban on firearm/ammunition importation.

hold me

>>31529874
>>31529942

okay, so 7.62. but what are the best aks anons?

from what ive scratched so far, slr 107 and Atlantic sgl 21

>>31534841
Congress would veto her shit and it would be four more years of the same bs we just went though.

>>31534861
I'm not as worried about an AWB as i am about importation being cut off. That could be done via more sanctions on Russia, and its no secret that Hillary hates Putin.

>>31534846

If you can find an SGL-21, get it. They're hard to find right now.

>>31534884
They've been hard to find since the import ban.

>>31534841

Her AWB will come either right off the bat first year or right after her reelection, not before. Destroying the 2nd and the 1st amendments will be her Obamacare.

>>31534884
>>31534903

ah, i see. so does that mean the slr 107 is the only real option unless i get lucky?

New thread

>>31535028

>>31535028

>>31535028

>>31534981

If you're looking for an AK-103 clone, yeah. Pretty much.

The SLRs have a pretty bad finish, and I've seen Arsenal triggers break more than once.

>>31534981
you'll be lucky to find a 107 at a decent price
>we bought them and everything else nice already