/akg/ AK General

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first for Finnish AKs

I must admit I still love 7.62x39. I love the sound of the lower pressure round, it's so raw and shitty sounded. So real, like the siege is Stalingrad was still in the military mind.

First for autism

Anyone know the status of the Vafag mags?

>>31508027
He got 2/5 parcels, the rest three are still on the way.

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>>31507910
you guys rike my ak?

>>31507910
why are russians so ugly?

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>>31507910

r8 my pointy gun

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>>31508076
I rikee alot.

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>>31504804
Looks pretty terrible. The majority of the "good" looking bits on this rifle are just artificially worn pieces (such as the edges of the gas block, the barrel rod, where the crapco muzzle brake meets the threads, etc.)

It's pretty autistic. You'd be better off buying a better rifle. Believe me: the novelty of having a well-worn weapon wears off when you coat it with oil a few times a week so that it doesn't rust.

>>31508053
Has he started sending them out?

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>>31508132
No has not recieved the entire shipment.

What's that Lassie? Everything is still out of stock? You don't say!

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>>31508107
>>>>barrel rod

>>31508158
Shh, I'm drowning my deep hatred for unnecessary words and terrible union workers in Yuengling and 4Chan generals.

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I want a full auto 6.5 grendel ak...

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>>31508107
>barrel rod

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>>31508107
Wtf is a barrel rod?

>>31508072

I need to buy more mags. Specifically, I need to buy 45 rounders. It's a little hard to justify the cost of a couple of the Bulgarians when it's just north of what a case of commercial ammo is though.

Anyone think NATO would have been better if we adopt the AK or at least the Sig 550?

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>>31508222
Just remember that if you buy quality mags you will never have to replace them.

>>31508229
If you want nato to be better decisions must be must be made way bigger than just changing a small arms platform my dude.

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>>31508233

I've got some coming in the group buy, but I always feel like I need more.

Truth is, I'm behind on ammo buying for the year (I shot ALL of my remaining .45 earlier in the month) and I keep wanting to grab another triangle folder and a dong for my 107. It got to the point where I briefly contemplated selling my ARs to cut out a caliber until I remembered what happens in November.

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/akg/ aware of this rifle?
It's a closer cousin to the SG 550 series, but still relevant to AK owners.
I've been keeping a close eye on the development process and decided to give it a shot. May come back with initial range report in the next few days.

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>>31508364
Ive been on ak files market place too much. I just keep buying and buying. I figure if i dont pay to much for mags i can always get my money back relatively quickly.

>>31508406
Yeah; I actually considered buying one recently but decided to get a handgun rather than another AK. It seems to me like they're being really receptive to feedback of the rifle and are actively trying to make it better, which makes me happy because it's a very aesthetically pleasing rifle. I'd love to own one someday, but I'm going to hold off a little longer because my meme gun budget is lacking.

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>>31508406
That looks like shit imo

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Eventually I'm going to start stocking up on South African R4 parts. I really want to build an R4 clone sometime with as many original R4 parts that I can get my hands on. I've had a hard on for South African military history since I was like 13 and the Galil/R4 has always been a favorite AK of mine (even though 5.45 a best) of mine, so this is something I really want to do sometime over the next few years.

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I'd take these to a parade.

>>31508489
>all those of mines
wew sorry boys

>>31508508
That bakelite is delicious

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>>31508434
Glad to hear I wasn't the only one interested.
>>31508474
Personally, I think I can make it work. My original intention was to get a Norinco Hunter for cheap and do a ton of work on it in order to make it suppressor ready. The M10X is basically my end goal for cheaper, but also ambi (southpaw here). I'm going to treat it like a future dystopian AK derivative, and I picked out an optic which should compliment it well.

>>31507910
That's a big hat

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>>31508649
Why would you get a rifle in 7.62x39 ? Would not 5.56, .308,5.45,ect.. inherently be better? You just might as well get a piston ar or a scar .

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>>31508649
>an optic
pic related
Will report back with images in the next two days.

OK k I need some advice
I'm looking to buy a ak and I'm kinda stumped with all the options and variants
pls help me out
let's set the budget at ~$1000
a milled receiver is a must have
I would like a tactical setup as opposed to the all wood furniture for comfort customization and a folding stock is quite appealing
other than that a bayonet mount would be pretty rad
thoughts suggestions criticisms advice resources?
anything would help

>>31508729
Arsenal sam7

>>31508700
already have a good assortment of your listed options, this was because I'm curious and also because it scratches a lot of my itches for a 7.62 rifle.
>extruded handguard
>long stroke piston
>ambi
>ak or SR25 magazines
>adjustable gas system
>furniture compatibility

If it's not to my liking I will either modify it or sell it, but I'll be sure to leave feedback with the manufacturer because as Nick said they have been receptive. First thing I would do as a designer is improve resilience to ingress of debris by putting a grommet in the path of the charging handle, as the SG 550 series has.

>>31508741
thanks I appreciate your time

>>31508729
Seconding the Sam7

DDI rifles may be good, but I don't have much data on them; Arsenal is a safe bet.

>>31508763
>>31508741
any suggested retailers?
I live outside oder Houston so a ffl isn't a problem but I imagine that there's quite a mark up for regular gun shops

>>31508768
gunwatcher is a good starting point

Atlantic has some in stock too, they've been good to me in the past.

>>31508729
if you can save up a few more hundred you can get the side folder sam7, but yeah the normal sam7 is good. mine shoots like butter

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>>31508729
>He's falling for the milled meme

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>>31507910

Dude his hat's bigger than a satellite dish lmao

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How much would it cost to convert a slant-cut 5.45 VEPR into a regular wood-and-bake AK74? Let's say I could get the VEPR itself costs 750 before tax. Would it just need a bullet guide and the slant-cut converter plus furniture/mags or would I be better off just going with something like an Arsenal?

I really like the heaviness of the VEPR so I would like to convert one.

>>31508188
She can have my barrel rod
>>31508508
Salivating
>>31508659
>>31508892
That makes him the pimp
>>31508845
I never understood the appeal of a heavier rifle that's only marginally if at all more durable or accurate.

>>31508089
slavicmemegun/10

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what does /akg/ think of the "battlefield pick-up romy vpg" for sale on atlantic firearms at the moment? any1 heard anything good about lee armory before?

AR fag here.
Just bough my first ak and i love it exept...
the rear sight, years of ar ghost rings have spoiled me.

any alternate rear sights to recommend? not looking go use optics on this gun.

>>31508729
as a SAM7SF owner, do not fall for the milled meme, sure the action is smoother etc, but your rifle will weigh 50 pounds

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>>31507910

>>31509655
Krebs perhaps?

>>31509643
i also have curiosities about this

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>>31509655
Get out

>>31509655
Tech sights.

>>31509643
>>31510405
Atlantic builds are contracted and they usually do a good job.
>>31509043
If you can live with an unconverted forend, you would basically only need a stock adapter and a bullet guide. Both of those parts are relatively easy to fit, no need to send off to a smith.
IMO the long wood forends on VEPR rifles are practical and have a unique look. You could refinish or paint the wood to match your other furniture too. Completing the conversion on the forend (i.e. to fit AKM furniture) would likely have you at the same price as an Arsenal.

>>31509655
The only iron sight for an AK that you will find that will mimic the AR15 sights is the tech sight.

Any "aperture" sight that replaces the regular AK sight leaf won't work anywhere like a real aperture sight. For an aperture sight to work it has to be close to your eye. The AK rear sight block is too far away for it to work like that. I don't know what the reviews on the tech sights are but they are pretty much the only product that will give you an AK rear aperture that's actually close to your eye. Except I guess for the TWS top cover rear sight but I'm not even sure if those are adjustable for zeroing.

I'd recommend just learning how to shoot with open sights and just accept it as part of the AK. No, it will never be as accurate as a good set of aperture sights. Look at the jokers who shoot M1 garands competitively. You won't be able to mimic that kind of accuracy with open AK sights. But love it or leave it.

>>31510579
Wouldn't using some fancy math and adjusting the size of the aperture compensate for the distance away from the shooters eye?
>actually curious

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>>31510579
Like this for example. Obviously you don't have the radius of a M1, and the whole setup wouldn't be as sensitive to the shooters adjustment, but the basic principle is the same yea?

>>31510675
>>31510647
Aperture sights are most effective when the aperture is smaller than the pupil and work especially well when they occlude the space around the aperture (i.e. diopter sights). You could train yourself to use aperture sights without an occluder (as in your pic), but it wouldn't be much easier than open sights because you wouldn't get any help with parallax suppression. This is just knowledge and experience we've inferred from the behavior of the eye/brain, your mileage may vary.

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>>31510579
Why did they do this?

>>31510647
>>31510675
This guy >>31510769 sounds like he knows what he's talking about, I failed physics 2 so you probably shouldn't listen to me.

>>31511045
That is actually an aperture sight! Look at more pics and you will see it is a peep sight. Open sights work best when the rear sight is away from your eye (see every milsurp bolt gun ever). Apertures work best close to your eye.

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>>31505064
Tubanon this is my burner [email protected]

>>31511045
AK12 is deadddd

>>31511193
Stop playing with the corpse.

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>>31511245
sory

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It's a good day.

>>31511411
9 days was pretty fast.

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>>31511411
That's a big box

i had a nightmare that all my aks were covered in 1913 rails and my wood/plum furniture was missing

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>>31511580
That's not funny anon, I'm glad you're okay.

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>>31511411
HYPE

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Buddy of mine wants me to help him kill some coyotes on his property. Wants to set up in his roof with my 1PN34 on one of my AKs

Which should I bring? Any tips for sighting in the retarded night vision scope? I'm thinking RPK since I don't really want to have to hold up a rifle with an unbalanced 5lb scope with chin weld

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*lord of war intensifies*

>>31511597
RPK you fag

>>31511648
What did your mom say?

>>31511718
YOURE GROUNDED NO MORE SNIPER CLIPS

>>31511648
I want that 864 mag ....

>>31511428
For (you)

>>31511597
Rpk for long range daka

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>>31511597
There's just something extra cool about using an rpk.
And that'll help a ton with the weight, that scope looks like it weighs a ton.

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>>31508185
>buy vepr in 6.5 grendel
>get fuck up the butt and get your papers to own full auto
>convert grendel to full auto
>????
>profit

>>31512287
Would be nice

>>31511411
H Y P E

>>31512348
http://www.k-var.com/shop/VPR-65G-03.html

>>31511411
I wanna make some AK magazines in .30-06. Can I buy springs by themselves?

Molot is making a civilian VSS for the Russian market.

>>31512746
Molot arms is by any means not molot.

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>>31509643
They're cramping my style and trying to steal my gig. They look nice, but I somehow doubt they're not refinished to some degree based on my rifle and other rifles I've seen in the past (as well as parts kits I've handled).

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Thinking of replacing the plum with some Bulgarian bakelite hand guards. What say you?

>>31512939
W O O D
O
O
D

>>31512939
Keep in mind you will have to non-permanently modify the Bakelite handguards to make them fit right

>>31513054
Oh no shit? Didn't know that. I'm too lazy, I'll just keep it as is.

>>31513076
It's not that hard, basically the square end of the handguard (the part that faces you) is too skinny, you need to shim it with a block of wood or something.

The hardest part of all is getting the UHG on without breaking anything tbfactual

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so would i be better off quality wise buying a parts kit gun from atlantic, than just going and buying a wasr

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>>31513128
An Atlantic is going to run you a couple hundred more, but they are solid rifles. I have a couple and they've been great shooters.

>>31513161
theres a wasr for sale near me for like 700, and the romy BFPU made by lee armory is on sale for $800 atm, ngl im really tempted

>>31513185
Tough call. I think I'd go with the BFPU since Atlantic's QC is pretty solid. Plus, it'll be under warranty just in case they do miss anything.

>>31513262
oh no, piece of shit is getting discontinued
good

doesn't century arms still have factories around the US?

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Go with wood.

>>31513340
How do vzs not look that much different but look a lot more disgusting?

>>31513262
>selling shit, shit, shit, shit, and shit

Dammit Century why can't you just import more WASRs?

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I'm going to go back to black polymer. All of the late Afghan war era stuff I've currently got on it is really cool but it just looks goofy when I put the Obzor on. Ill have to pick up a black side folder, but I'm not sure if I should just go with the black handguards and pistol grip the rifle came with or get a set of Russian furniture. A Russian set would only run me about $40 for the handguards and grip so I'll probably just do it because they're pretty inexpensive, but is there any real difference between the US made stuff and a Russian set besides country of origin and markings?

Also I guess this means I have an excuse to finally get my hands on a current 74M muzzle brake to match the black furniture. I could get away with my current faceted brake for now with it, but I'd want a 74M brake eventually.

I've been thinking about getting a 74 for a while now, any of you guys with experience think this is any good for the price?

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ak47-yugo-zastava-n-pap-fixed-wood-stock-detail.html?Itemid=0

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>>31507910
owning an AK
>2017

>>31513437
>74
>N Pap

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>>31513447

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>>31513422
That Obzor Lyfe.

considering getting an slr 104, how hard is it to switch out the poly stock for a russian triangle stock?

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Bought some plums off AKfiles and one has something scratched into it in Cyrillic maybe? Says 1988 on top and 1990 on the bottom. Anyone know what it says or might be. Also says 948 under it

>>31513454
Shit my bad meant 47

>>31513572
Not very, just tap out the pin with a punch and hammer. Just remember that triangle folders came in 4.5mm and 5.5mm hinge pins, so be sure to get the right one. I believe Arsenals use 4.5mm.

>>31507910
Эх poднaя 38!

>>31513588
Op here, I did some Google translating and I get the word 'Coast' in Russian

>>31513588
Hey if you're interested in getting rid of that mag I'll buy it from you or trade you for a different mag. Trench art mags are my favorite and I collect 1988 dated AK stuff, so that mag fills two areas of interest for me

>>31513715
I had the same thought kek

I'm guessing you have a plum kit/build?

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>>31513715
Considering it has the art and 69 on it too I think I'll hold on to it. I was mostly curious about where it may be from. Also has something on the other side that looks like it says "Benez" in although I'm not going to bother funding the Cyrillic for that

>>31513731
Not really, just lots of late 80s parts. It was an interesting time with AKs, right on the verge of being modernized but also not quite being modernized yet

I could probably get something built with what I've got but I'm too autistic and if I ever did itd have to be as close to original and perfect as I could possibly get it.

The biggest thing about that mag for me is the trench art itself, I just love personalized things carved into them like names and dates and stuff like that.

Since we're on about mags, one of these plums has a (4) stamp near the top, does this make it matte black? How different are these plums?

>>31513934
Ч means true black, plums have M.

>>31513823
Bruh, the Izhmash 1988 kits are calling your name

>>31513934
That Cyrillic character USUALLY means it's a true black however I HAVE FOUND BEFORE actual plum mags that have the "4" looking character instead of the usual "M" looking character.

Shine a flashlight through it to check. A true black will have ZERO light transmission. If you have a plum with the "4" stamp it is an extremely uncommon mag.

>>31514031
Oh I know but it's money I shouldn't be spending. I want to pick some up, believe me, but i just know I shouldn't

>>31514049
I took out the internals and I can see some shine on the inside with a flashlight. Rare plum Pepe found?

>>31514131
Post pics with the flashlight shining through and the stamp visible? That's a highly uncommon mag.

>>31514089
I admire your control

>>31514270
Sure, gimme some time

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>>31508107
*cleaning rod

so what type of triangle folder is preferred for a slr 104? an old russian one off gunbroker or something?

>>31514385
Yeah, that'll do. Or a bulgarian. You can find them on eBay pretty regularly.

>>31514270
>I admire your control
Haha I don't, I miss being single with a good job and being able to blow nearly all of every paycheck on guns and ammo. Being an adult (lol I'm only 27) and having to support a family sucks, being a young irresponsible adult was the best. I used to spend like two grand a month on gun stuff, now I'm lucky if i can spend two hundred

Never grow up, that way you can continue to spend money and collect cool stuff.

REJOICE! PSAKs are back in stock

>>31514416
>two grand a month on gun stuff
I wish I even made that much a month

>>31514476
You dont ??

>>31514507
If you read this post >>31514476 you will see the answer to your question

>>31514507
I'm sorry that was pretty sassy

>>31514565
Ha its good man im just being annoying anyways while i shitpost at work. I live i a privileged bubble becuase my fiancé makes much more than me and spends most of her money on my interests.

>>31513385
Because Cugir would rather make AKs to fulfill mil contracts where they make more money?

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>>31514270
Here. You can see the shine coming through near the mark

Chimps should I wait for the red PSAK or pull the trigger now for the black poly?

>>31514770
Either way I will have a red stock. Just not sure if they'll sell out soon.

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Nice fleck in my new grip.

>>31514616
Check ur privilege

>>31514723
That's a very uncommon mag. VERY uncommon. Hang on to that one. I would baby it so you don't lose the stamp, even.

I had two of those back in the day. Accidentally sold them mixed in with normal plums. Also thanks for the pic, I finally have proof they exist (never photographed the ones I had)

>>31514770
I don't like the look of that stock set much personally. Just my opinion

Legion has some kit-built Molot 7.62 RPK's.

I was ready to spit out my drink until I read "US barrel and receiver."

>>31514899
what about bakelites with same stamp?
just came to my mind

different anon

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>F U T U R E A K
range report tomorrow

>>31515129
You bought one ?

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>>31515129
But why

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>>31515147
Yup. About a month ago, but just picked it up today.

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>>31515185

>>31515185
Please post a picture with appropriate lighting.
Ill be here for that report. What mags will you be using ?

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>>31515176
To live out my helghast fantasies.
>>31515230
Only have shitty artificial lighting ATM, but will do for now. Pretty pictures to come in a few days. First trip I only have Croat BHOs (which fit perfectly) and the MOE PMAG it shipped with. Bakes in the mail and might get a circle 10 waffle for fun.

>>31515276
How much are these things anyways, cause ngl they look like the type of shit someone would make in their garage

>>31515129
What is this?

>>31515276
First impressions?

>>31515049
There's no overlap in production there so it wouldn't make any sense, I've never heard of such and I highly doubt it exists

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>>31515295
about twelve fiddy
>>31515296
M10X
>>31515325
Some of the parts are TIGHT. Trigger is really quite nice, estimating 2-3lbs and the reset is almost instant, after about 3mm of travel. Take down is a little awkward because the charging handle comes off before the bolt comes out. Opens up like an FAL.

>>31515276
Is the stock proprietary?
Can it be changed ?

>>31515350
for some unknown reason i thought i had one, but it just has OTК 50 [PB] and other side has (BГ) and number 6

>>31515402
Hope it runs well then man, cause that is the ugliest gun I've seen in a while. Function over form tho, I wonder if it can put out decent accuracy

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>>31515431
p sure it's proprietary on this model, because they made their own rear trunnion+end cap which mates with the zhukov. The one with an AR buffer tube can be swapped of course.
>>31515440
yeah, one of the coolest features is that it's free floated. I'll hunker down and see what kind of groups it can make.

>>31515433
If you take a Bakelite magazine apart, they often have stamps on the inside of the magazine as well.

>>31515477
I would argue that there is no such thing as a true free float on a piston driven gun, but I'll be curious what the groups look like.

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>>31515606
Me too. DI "free float" is iffy as well, but it's as close as one can get.

This is also the closest to the AK-12 we will probably ever get in the US.

I'll also talk a little about the optic tomorrow, a few anons have been interested as there's not much info on them.
>the whole thing is a gamble
>pls no kaboom

Well, I'm an idiot. Should've posted this here instead of QTDDTOT.

Is it possible to unfuck ban-compliant AKs, I.E. getting a bayo lug and non-pinned barrel again? I already own an AR and have a buddy in a free state holding onto an upper with evil features. State compliant AKs are always being sold at like $800-900 from shops and local private sales and getting a shop to do all the compliance work would be another $200/300.

I'd like a 7.62x39 platform for my collection and range use and I'm also willing to get an SKS if need be.

Getting a Century M74 Bulgy after my next paycheck, anybody that has one in here?

>>31515728
>bayo lug
Punch the pin out of the old FSB and pin on one with a lug
>pinned barrel
Grind the pin down, pull it out, and turn the thread protector free, then use the muzzle device of your darkest fantasies.
>I live in a ban state
...

>>31515722
I'd say blowback is even closer.

>>31515742
Why would you buy that?

>>31515789
It's a decent, cheap AK...

>>31515831
You missed the PSAK restock by like an hour. Might as well wait for them to come back, and by then you can afford an Arsenal.
>everybody wins

>>31515784
>Grind the pin down, pull it out, and turn the thread protector free, then use the muzzle device of your darkest fantasies.

Actually, I just remembered the muzzle devices have to be pinned AND welded. Abort plan, acquire SKS?

>>31515831
>decent
No it's not.

>>31515843
>>31515868
The one I'm looking at is $449. Why are they so bad? Don't give me the "It'll blow up in 2k rounds"

>>31515891
There's a reason is so cheap. It'll blow up in less than 2k rounds.

>>31515908
Have you ever owned one? If not I don't care.

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>>31515861
Yeah, you grind the weld down. The pin is welded to the thread protector, not the threads. If your muzzle is pinned and welded that means it probably has threads underneath
>mfw someone would pin and weld an unthreaded muzzle
>>31515891
Century M74 rifles are the ones notorious for keyholing. I wouldn't take the gamble. Remember, this is in addition to the usual Century antics.

>>31515924
Of course I've never owned one. I'm not retarded enough to buy Century made guns.

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>>31515924
>hey guys im gonna get this terrible ak
>don't do it, its terrible
>nuh uh you don't have one so you're wrong

>>31515935
From what I've read, the early M74s and Tantals were the keyholers, because they had 5.56 barrels, and the Tantals were much more common this way. Century seemed to fix the issue after 2009-2010.

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>>31515924
>new tripfag with no guns
>wants to buy a century fuckfuck gun
>can't even afford WASR

It'll blow up in 2k rounds, some of us don't buy cheapshit guns, buy a fucking WASR, remove trip

Anyone have any pics of Societ soldiers in Afghanistan with AK74s/AKS74s with wood furniture with plum mags and plum furniture with Bakelite mags?

I've got tons of pics of plum with plum and wood with Bakelite, but hardly any of plum with Bakelite and wood with plum.

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Hey guys I found this in a pawn shop for 800. Just wanted to grab some more opinions now that I have pics.

>>31516012
>Buy a WASR
Fucking where? I'm not paying $800 fucking dollars for a WASR...

Should I buy Russian black polymer furniture or just stick with my US made black polymer furniture?

>>31516025
Good price for a Norinco Hunter is $300-600.

They're neat rifles, but don't overpay.

>>31516030
Then save your money rather than buying a piece of shit. Fucking poorfags just don't get it.

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>>31516030
Then pay 1000 for an Arsenal
Or learn how to find a fucking deal instead of browsing the two websites you know of

>>31514945
Why does everyone knock us barrels and receivers? Is it just because they aren't original to the gun?

>>31516049
It won't do anything different, but if you care about it do it, I know myself and a lot of other people here prefer that bit of authenticity to their guns

>>31516052
It's got an oval 386 if that changes anything

>>31516054
>>31516057
God damn you two are salty. Where did you get this information about them?

>>31516025
>$800 for a Hunter
Damn, you could have gotten a post ban converted Mak90 or Maadi for that price. A local shop has had a Hunter sitting for months for $650 that I've been thinking about buying to rebuild as a funky Galil/Valmet clone due to the receiver but $650 even seems a little high.

>>31515935
Yeah I know, AWB here specifically states threaded barrels are a no-no because you might put a babby-killin' silencer on it. Flash hiders are also banned by name, but not defined. Windham Weaponry actually sells an A2 flash hider for us, but they call it an A2 "compensator" making it completely legal.

Are the Russians still issuing out Bakelite mags and plum mags, or are they all pretty much entirely swapped out to true black mags by now?

>>31516075
From the idiots like you who bought them and had them blow up after 2k rounds

How about don't trip up if you're a noguns with no knowledge?

Buy this, at least you could sell the accessories and get back most of your investment, or keep them since they're probably good shit and cheaper than buying a 107fr and all that shit separate http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280349

>>31516054
Poverty trap is real man

>>31513373
It's just the doppelganger effect. It's a double for something very familiar, but just a little different looking. Our brains are wired to be very suspect of things like that.

>>31516049
If you care about having authentic Russian, at least go for plum. Bonus points for shiny plum.
>>31516065
US production AK barrels are almost unanimously of poor quality. If you can find an intact foreign military barrel for your build, do so. Radom barrels were popular last time I looked. Most foreign barrels in the US are part of a complete rifle already.
>>31516071
Yeah, it's a polytech. I was talking to you earlier. In this case the Polytech marking doesn't add much value because almost all of the "hunter" rifles in that configuration are of the similar fit and finish. Probably $50 to $100 more tops.

>>31516112
I'm not a noguns, I'm not clueless, and I'm going to check out the gun before I buy it, if it has issues, I won't take it home with me... I'll just save up more for a DDI or Arsenal if this one ends up being shit.

>>31516007
>Buying century built guns
You're obviously stupid enough to be a shitposting tripfag whos just looking for validation in purchasing a century rifle, so go for it,

>>31516131
Ah alright, I'll probably still pick it up and convert it over to how the legend series looks

>>31516157
I mean, Hickok liked the one he reviewed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZD9xkqZGg

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>>31516155
>not a noguns
You own a nugget?
>not clueless
You want to buy an M74 don't fuckin lie to me

If you're this fuckin poor then invest your money into something more worthwhile and wait

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>>31516159
Galil and Valmet conversions are popular with that rifle because of how the receiver is similarly slanted. Look up some of that stuff, I'm sure you'll have some good ideas.

Pic related was done by a dude on arfcom with a galil kit and one of these rifles, did a beautiful job. the BCG really sells it.

>>31516175
No disrespect to grandpa H, but the standard of reviewing is higher than ever before with channels such as AKOU. At best what he displays is casual shooting and first paragraph wikipedia-level background info.

>>31516193
I don't see why you went ahead and started insulting me right off the bat. And yes I do have a Nugget, as well as many more. If you really do care about it so much, please tell me what goes wrong in the M74s. I'd be glad to listen as long as you aren't being a butthurt anon.

>>31516175
Hickok is not a good gauge of the build quality of the firearm, all he does is " Ahuhhuh, I don't know where to hold... Reach out to the gong... federal ammo... like to thank our sponsors...life is good"

While he may give an impression on handling and shooting characteristics the reviews are not formatted to give you more indepth technical info

Also there's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mwqACLIE1M

>>31516218
I get that, but I trust his judgment pretty well, and these are probably better than the RAS, being not casted and all.

>>31516155
I would strongly encourage you to avoid the M74 and maybe look for a used Waffen on a Nodak receiver or maybe a DDI or SLR-105.

M74 is the only "factory" AK I've ever seen that actually KB'd.

I always forget, do Bulgarian sidefolders/Arsenal SLR rifles have a 4.5 pin or 5.5 pin?

>>31515722
what is it?

>>31516241
4.5 write it down ya fag

>>31516258
Thanks it'll be my next tattoo

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>>31516219
No, I insulted you when you started acting like a fucking retard trying to defend a gun you don't own and know nothing about, after people who know about it told you it was shit. Century is known for having issues with just about all of their guns, their in house guns especially. And lurk more faggot

>>31516240
The M74s are on a Nodak IIRC. Where should I look for used guns if I go that route? I can't find any AKs in my area.

>>31516343
Doesn't matter if the headspace is so out of spec that the gun literally explodes. Gunbroker, ya fag

>>31516241
>>31516258

Expanding on this, did the Russians ever make 4.5 polymer sidefolders? I'm like 90% sure they didn't and that all their polymer sidefolders are 5.5, but I just want to make sure before I pull the trigger on a Bulgarian stock.

>>31516366
What if I bought a no go gauge?

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Opinions on the AMD 63? I'm thinking of buying one for my first AK.

>>31516394
Then what? You're going to pay a few hundred more to get your gun unfucked?

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>>31516393
Yes almost certainly, however you will almost certainly never own one, it's hard to even find pictures of them

>>31516394
Or you could just buy a gun that works

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>>31514899
I got one of those plums too .

>>31516437
I'll gladly buy an SLR104 for less than $1k but I cannot find one. I checked GB and armslist.

>>31516454
with some character too. That's really awesome. Wish I hadn't sold mine. I'm jealous

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>>31516482
Ya i prefer them used. That one is from the group buy.

>>31516534
Its interesting that the texture of the mag feels like a ((10)) un like a plum.

>>31516437
>Yes almost certainly, however you will almost certainly never own one, it's hard to even find pictures of them
So they're something that even if I did manage to find one they'd be super collectible and not something to put on the gun and beat up?

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>>31516534
The ones with the Y stamp like that overlap production with the true blacks. The line is more blurred than people think. Some true blacks from around that time will tend to have a more rough texture. Some true blacks have a slicker texture like your average plum. I'm going to take a risky guess and say that mag is either mold 47 or 29.

>>31516560
yes, but don't worry, you won't find one

>>31516686
>yes, but don't worry, you won't find one
Oh I wasn't expecting to find one, and even if I did I'd have no interest in buying an expensive collectible stock.

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>>31516686
Fuckin genius man.

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How stupid am I to trade a ksg shotgun I got for 650 plus a hundred bucks for a mint looking mak90 slant cut with ironwood furniture? I'd like another 7.62 rifle but not interested in NPAPs or paying stupid money for a 107.

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Hello?

So has vafag gotten all the packages as of today?

>>31516416
>>31516416

Thread is dead so I'm rerollin

>>31517291
Holy shit how do I open this accessories case

>>31517741
>twist it

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>>31517741

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I've got a black sidefolder coming in the mail, so only a few days left of plum and triangle before I switch over. Plum and triangle is cool but looks goofy with the Obzor, so I want to make the rifle look more proper when I'm using it and go for more of a 74M look.

It feels weird, I've had my SLR104 since May 2014 and I've had plum on it since June of that same year, and this will be the first time in like 27 months that I've taken the plum off.

I've gotta get an extended collar 74M brake, black Russian furniture (I'll stick with my US made black for now until a deal pops up), and a smooth dust cover. Anything else I should pick up to complete the 74M look?

>>31517576
He said he had 2/5 yesterday. He got 3 packages today, simple math says yes, but he hasn't confirmed anything.

>>31517125
>slant cut
Well, I mean, its an AK

>>31517817
Were are you going to get a smooth top cover?
Saiga ones will not fit. I tried.

So legionusa is going to sell a 7.62 RPK... that costs $1500 with a US made barrel.

>>31513447
kek nice shit tier ar, go show that to the arg and see how superior your feel afterwords.

>>31517752
Either I have become very weak or this shit is impossible

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>Be me
>Have .54r Vepr slant back
>Looking at stock swaps
>Buy this:

>https://www.legionusa.com/vepr-slant-to-square-stock-adapter-sgm.html

Not from them, just found one online, and I'm not shilling for them, as they don't have them in stock anyway. They just had the best optics on the widget.

So, /k/ommandos - what stock is the best stock to bolt onto / into it it?

What Pistol grip?

Inquiring minds want to know what /k/ thinks

/nb4 /k/ doesn't think (It's a myth propagated by the media)

>>31509043
The arsenal is a lot lighter, too. Also factor that into your decision.

>>31517888
>So legionusa is going to sell a 7.62 RPK... that costs $1500 with a US made barrel.

You can buy a Molot RPK with a Ruuuuskie barrel, for half of that.

>>31517998
>You can buy a Molot RPK with a Ruuuuskie barrel, for half of that.
You can't buy any Molot RPK in the US for $1500. Vepr 1Vs usually go for $1700+ and Molot never brought in any other RPKs.

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>>31515402
>RDB
RIP

>>31516863
Feels good man. Here's a picture of my dad with a sunflower he grew. I really like this picture

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>>31518197

>>31518223
god damn thats fuckin huge

>>31517825
I've got them all. I'm assembling them andgetting all the shipments together as of now.

>>31518089
>Uou can't buy any Molot RPK in the US for $1500.

All Moлoт .54R rifles are RPK based. And about $750 or so, unless you are buying stupid.

>>31518349
don't be pedantic, faggot

you know damn well he doesn't want a 54r VEPR when we're talking about a Molot RPK

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>>31518119
You got some of the front trunion?

>>31517291
I've always wondered, is there a locking mechanism on the stock and the "shoulder pad" hinge?

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put some money down on an npap for layaway the other day, was this a good choice?

I'm not too educated on the newer yugos

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Weighing everything from price to general build quality, what is better?

GP WASR-10 or Arsenal SLR-107FR?

>>31518683
just get whatever you want

Got some extra dosh to spend my AK this month

Thinking about getting a charging handle grip, a new ironsight system, or something like that. Problem isn't I don't know anything about what good brands are good for either of those products. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

>>31518683
My general advice has always been:

>I want to spend money once and never want/need to modify my rifle
Get the Arsenal

>I want to stroke my inner ARfag and change everything I can
Get the WASR or really any of the "decent and affordable" AKs.

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>>31518891
eventually you buy an arsenal AND stroke your inner ARfag

>>31518914
what the fug

>>31507910
that niggas big hat lol

>>31518669
You may end up needing to replace parts like the recoil spring, the wood, and the "paperclip," but it has been an overall fine rifle for me so far. Although you can look towards the AKOU's current test on the PAP you want to see it in action

how much should i be paying for plum pistol grip/upper lower hand guards together/on their own?

>>31518980
i got a milled bulgarian plum set for 88 shipped on the Files

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>>31518683
Do you want shitty paint finish and horrible trigger with copious amounts of buttfucking? Pick Arsenal

Do you want durable but less-accurate semi-auto Kalashnikov that behaves like a Kalashnikov should at an actual Kalashnikov price? Get teh WASR.

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>>31519044
>being this much of a faggot not acknowledging the necessity to own both to get feels of both end of the spectrum

>hurr durr, $1000 is too much for an aye Kay

Kys

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>>31519081
if i kms i'd give anti gunners more fuel

>>31519124
What gorgi red stocks are these?

>>31519081
where did you find those beryl mags?

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>>31519207
Akfiles marketplace.

>>31519162
looks like refinished russian laminate

>>31519247
It is. It's from a site called combloc customs

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>>31519081
>>hurr durr, $1000 is too much for an aye Kay

You love to live up to your name.

It's too much for an AK, yes, when I can build a nice AR for the same fucking price. And we both know which has the better ballistics.

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>>31519292
Huh, I wonder if someone could make a high-quality AK for the same price point as a nice AR. Maybe it could fire a round with ballistics comparable to 5.56. They could even put a folding stock on the thing, that would be handy!

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>>31519292
Nigger you got to be trolling, I hope you are. Jesus, why are you here, please >>>/arg/ , don't you guys have threads discuss C clamp grip and how it can be applied to Stoner's ballsack.

>I can build an inferior special snowflake weapon for $500 with shit tier parts.

I'm a fucking poorfag: The Post

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>>31519367
Imagine even, if they make a quality AK and even chamber it in the same caliber as an AR-15? Holy fuck, it's like there could be AK's in multiple calibers and you could have two or three of them and not even own an AR! Please someone get on this.

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>>31519367
I'm seriously interested in how a 5.45 Arsenal compares to a common quality AR at the same price point.

>>31519372
>Implying /arg/
I started off in this general before I ever touched an AR, breh.
>$500
I wish. My AR was more like $1200 all said and done.

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I'm not sure why you faggots are fighting. At the price anyone else in the world pays for an AK, they are overpriced here. They're artificially scarce and import bans aren't really helping. It is bullshit what happened to the AK market mate

>>31518425
No

>>31519405
Bruh there is nothing wrong with a WASR, I have a donger in the safe too. But what's your hatred of Arsenal all about? I doubt it's poorfaggotry or post-purchase rationalization seeing as you have a $1200 AR.

>>31519448
>But what's your hatred of Arsenal all about?

It's a fucking stamped AK that for some reason commands the same price as a goddamn FAL, PTR or very accurate AR's. It's fucking ridiculous.

Meanwhile DDI, Cugir/Century and PSA make dependable, stamped AK's for hundreds less that perform good enough for the Kalashnikov name.

I was turned off by the price at first, now I'm just disgusted by it. Arsenal survives on nothing but dick-sucking for a product that doesn't match its out-of-the-park price tag with melting paint, garbage triggers and no fewer canted parts than other names.

>>31519485
Show me a single 100 series AK that costs less than an Arsenal.

>B-build your own!
The folding stock and trunnion for it alone will run you $200-$300, plus paying someone to replace your rear trunnion and add on the little latch thing on the side of the gun that locks the stock closed, and there is an easy $400-$500 extra for the 100 series folding stock.

>B-but I don't want a folding stock!
Then don't buy one and stop bitching.

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Almost done several oldschool builds. Still missing one goddamn part - DDR issued RPK night sights. They are a bitch to find.

>>31519557
>>31519557
>Show me a single 100 series AK that costs less than an Arsenal.
Exact same problem I bitched about already. Overpriced stamped snowflake AK.
>>B-build your own!
>>B-but I don't want a folding stock!
Things I didn't say for $500, Alex.

Fucking cuntrag.

>>31519485
>>31519485
Yeah, they get to charge more because the AK market is import-driven and royally fucked. You can't exactly go anywhere else to get something AKS-74 spec (yet). Adding the folding trunnion to a $600 rifle would bring the cost up to match.

I'm not blind to Arsenal's QC issues or shady business practices, I see your point here.

Ultimately we would all like to return to 2009 and the days of $500 SGL's. I wouldn't argue with you that an AR is the best value for anyone wanting a practical rifle in 2016.

All that being said, my SLR-104 finish is fine, it is not canted, it shoots about 2MOA, and the action is the smoothest of any stamped AK I own.

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am i forced to get new furniture for my slr 104 if i wanna be cool?

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>mfw I'll finally have an RPK by next week

>>31519683
do you want to take the wood pill or the plum pill?

>>31519717
i was planning on grabbing a russian stock and thats all

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>>31519726
So black polymer and a triangle? Sounds cool to me.

>>31519762
that and an optic was all i planned on doing to the rifle, maybe replacing the trigger as well

>>31519485
DDI's and U.S. made century is shit.

If you don't like arsenal then don't buy one. Stop crying about the prices because we all knew this shit was gonna happen.

>>31518349
>RPK based
Just because it has an RPK trunnion and a 1.5mm receiver, doesn't mean it's an RPK, and if you think it's "close enough" to be considered an RPK, you don't belong here.

Where should I look for WASRs? You guys win, the place that had the M74s sold out. I saw a few in stores but they're $750. I'm looking to spend maybe $600-650.

>>31520885
Canted sights.

Clean it well before you shoot because the monkeys at century leave the shavings from the mag well.

>>31518420
You picked up that bayonet but not that Zenit RK-6? I was almost ready to do both on those desu

>>31520922
Lols so was i rhat was a good price. Just really dont need one. Eather have mags.

>>31513340
>>31513373
The thing I hate about VZ's is that the side profile, at least the 7.62x39 ones, look like a kid's attempt to draw a fucking AK, lol

And I love the Vz, it's a very damn good rifle

>>31520930
i don't know why, but i want that blue camo

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>>31519372
>hit by a possible twenty or more lbs of gun

Fucking hell, that is goddamn scary, even if it was unloaded that's like sixteen

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>>31518349
This, right here. >>31520827 Couldn't have said it better myself. There's a lot more that goes into an rpk than those two things.
I count myself lucky to have one of the few molot rpks in the US. A shame the kvar rumors weren't true, I would have liked to complete the set.
>>31521102
I actually like how they look overall, and think 10rd mags look the best in them by a long shot.
30+rd 762x39 mags have always been a major turn-off to me, and the vz looks even worse with them IMO. That mag angle is just hideous in my eyes. Up to the 20rd tanker mags, I love how 762 mags look.
545/556 ones look good to me all the way to 45rd. I'm not sure why.

>>31521146
Is that a d-technik?

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>>31521183
Yup, but a cz-usa import, I got it just as czechpoint was starting to stock them.
And before they monopolized everything entirely. Every accessory I bought from czechpoint costs 2x or more than it did when I bought it.

What's the consensus on AMD63s and 65s? Are they reliable? Any aftermarket furniture to replace the ugly front end?

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>>31521217
I miss the days when Czechpoint wasn't in full Jew mode. They used to be considerably cheaper, they used to ship free (at least their firearms used to all ship for free), they used to refund your FFL fees if you sent them a copy of the receipt, and they used to give you free Czechpoint pens, carabiners, and koozies if you asked for them when you ordered. I've got so many Czechpoint pens, carabiners, and koozies from buying stuff over the years.

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>>31518271
That's what she said