/akg/ AK General

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Wz96 Type A handguard best handguard.

>>31497054
FUCK YES daily dose edition finally

THANKS DOC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoYZf-lBF_U

>>31497082
Watching your rifle evolve has been fun m8

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>>31497096
I did the same thing with my AR in /arg/ and I will continue to do it with all my guns. Some people say I waste my money, but I think I just like to try things that are different and wacky. Don't worry, by the way, because it's going to change again soon. I'm going to sell the MWI rail and get another Russian optic :^

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>Aesthetic homebuild heat treating color

It's like you'll other cowards don't even smith

>tfw no ak
>tfw no relevant pepe

What am I even doing with my life.

>>31497088
kek.

I forgot about it for awhile, but remembered you trying it around thread #22?
Starting to run dry on "new" ideas again, so I thought a good ol' dose would be a good one.

>Thanks for the pic
and THANKS DOC

>>31497121
How did you heat treat it?

>>31497191
Ceramics kiln, quenched in used motor oil, then tempered in the same kiln

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>>31497082
Really like how it turned out

>>31497403
We should make an AKT list
Arsenals good to go
Wasrs deformation
Yugos ?

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>>31497543
Idk about yugos, ive never seen one with it installed. Im going to leave it in may wasr and see how bad it gets. It is for sure causing some deformation.

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>>31497543
yugo a shit

>>31497543
Is there a problem with ALG AKT causing issues.
I have one in my PSA AK gen2. Should I be checking for something?

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>>31497603
Check the dove tail of the bcg. Look for deformation like pic related. Its not a issue persay, just something to keep a eye on.

>>31497579
what all happened to your pap?

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>>31497543
It's pretty close to finished until the PT-3 fixed stock adapter is released. I'm just thinking about what gun I want to buy next. Shot a Rhodesian FAL at the FL /k/ meet and I'm still smitten. That'll also allow me to move over to /brg/ and call Sakuya a retarded faggot.

>>31497620
I'll check mine next time I have a chance.
Although I only have a few hundred rounds through it.

>>31497650
Ok post pics please so we can compare.

>>31497683
Will do. Might be a while cause its at my parents house until I can get a safe for all my funs.

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$15 bakelite anon frees of from greedy jew-tier sellers WHEN?!

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>>31497712
>$15 Bakelites
Don't hold your breath. Do you understand how shit the profit margin would be if you charged $15 for bakelites? You wouldn't lose money, but you sure as hell wouldn't be making any.

>>31497834
He said in the last thread he could sell them for $10 but would sell them for $15 for us because they only cost about $5 a piece and we are all just getting cucked.

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>>31497846
They're about $6 a piece from Russia; RUPost is shit with not only shipping speeds but also pricing. Like I said, not really much profit to be made when shipping in large quantities.

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What do you guys use for 5,45x39 ?

I bought a .223 bore snake wut it won t go through ... i have 2 .22 brushes but only the most used one goes in. .177 seems too small and won t clean good

>>31497958
.223 snake fits in my ak74...

>>31497834

dat overgassed rifle.

>>31497958

bore snakes are the worst thing to clean with, do you clean the bore snake after every pass?


Well then your just dragging dirt and crud right back into the barrel.

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Is there a way to put one of these stocks on a fixed stock AK? Or is it a completely different receiver that it needs?

>>31498006
Most of them will fit onto standard AKM recievers. Although those wire folders dont give a good cheek weld, if at all.

>>31498027
Turns out through my searches these are kinda hard to find and kind of expensive which is unfortunate because I like the aesthetic. Probably not worth.

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Is the cancer WASR beachwood really that bad if you restain it? If so where do I get a wood kit that isn't stupid fucking expensive or terrible.

>>31498119
As I said previously, it's just not worth the trouble.
Too many posts saying it cracks or full on shatters.

Just look at BobSled's tRASh47 vids (it's the same furniture)
Century went full hebrew on getting 922r compliant furniture so they could stop replacing critical and more difficult to swap components (they used to swap the gas piston and did so rather poorly)

Was the Clearview set too much?
At $25 it's about as cheap as you're going to get currently.
>Albeit you're going to pay for an upper handguard +shipping from somewhere else.

You may be able to score a set for around the same on the AKFiles, but the majority of them have been refinished or are "collectible" and people want a more premium price.

>>31498336
I looked there, not sure I'm a fan of the Romanian set with the vert grip and everything else is beechwood.

Might just pick up a set on armslist or something, I'll check AK files though.

>>31498421
Fair enough.
What kind of furniture are you looking for?

Polymer?
Hardwood?

Bulged lower handguard? (since the dong doesn't interest you)
Standard?

Country of origin
Polish?
Romania?
Russia?
Bulgaria?
>US?

There's tons of stuff out there, it's just not necessarily going to be cheap.
That's the rub.

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>>31498441
I'm alright to shell a little extra cash to get something I like. I think I want to aim for pic related.

>>31498463
Polish or Russian laminate are what you're looking for then, it seems.
As far as that exact color, good luck.
You'll either have to refinish a set with the proper shellac/dye/tar mix, or have it done for you.

>Google "Russian Red iodine", and there are more than a few way to try and achieve it.

Hope that gives you a place to start your search.

>>31498463
Check the ak forum marketplace you should be able to pick up a nice set of Russian laminate for not to much

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I'd love an AK103 clone, but I'm poor and AKs have gone through the roof. At least I have an AR.

>>31498533
The color for me doesn't have to be exact, I was just talking about the wood. Thanks for the help anon. I've actually used ways of making furniture redder in the past. You use powder rit dye and amber shellac.

>>31498581
Yeah I just took a good look around there might just put a WTB post when I get accepted

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>>31498616
>I was just talking about the wood
Fair enough.
Hopefully I pointed you in the right direction then.

>You use powder rit dye and amber shellac
That's not a great way of achieving that look, but I've seen worse.
If you do go that route, try hitting it with a black RIT after the "Wine" color.
It'll give you a much richer base under the shellac.
Otherwise it'll be RED as shit (like this)
Which I guess if that's what you're going for, will work out just fine.

An Iodine and ruby shellac mix is one of the easiest ways.
Pine tar and amber shellac is another I've seen work with pretty good results.

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>>31496656

yiss

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>>31498899
>That pumpkin spice tier basic bitch instagram filter
How about "no", faggot.

Just take a normal picture.

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>>31497712
Whenever the fuck all my shit shows up and only if I can get this guy to use EMS mail or something. Don't expect it any time soon really

>>31497834
I should only be paying $7 a piece so the extra money is is just going to be insurance for when one of the packages get fucked

>>31499001
Anon that talked with you about the few 45 round bakes you will have.

You still good on that price we discussed about the 45rd mags?
I know the 30s are a little more than initially discussed, but I get that you need to make a little on your end for the hassle and I'm cool with it.

>>31497543
>>31497566
What is causing it you think? Akt harder metal then carrier group?

>>31497958
A proper brush with one piece coated carbon fiber rod.

>>31498075
Get an ace or bone steel folder

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Anybody had any work done at Kilo Guns on Phoenix?
I'm thinking about having my saiga front end converted there and I'm just wondering about the quality of their work.
Anybody? Kilo Guns?

>>31499325
I'll need to figure out if he even has them in the first place, I'll check back on the emails when I'm not at work to figure out what all it even was, I'm sure it'll still be much cheaper than anywhere else

>>31499417
Dude had a hard time doing a 105 conversion and installing Zenitco parts. I wouldn't send it to them.

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>>31497958
I use exactly that. A bit tight, but works fine.
12ga for the gas tubes after a brushing leaves them in "like new" condition.

>>31499425
Who would you send it to? Other than Rifle Dynamics. I'm not literally made of gold.

>>31499448
>snaking your gas tube

By all means, do your thing, but I just pour some water down mine to get the corrosive salts out and then set it in the sun for a bit to dry. Never really got the point of making it squeaky clean.

>>31499477
I do the same with mine, the squeaky clean deal I mean. Got that rifle ocd bad. Even brake out small polymer picks to get the tiny nooks and crannies. But I really enjoy cleaning and learning about my rifle to too so that's part of it.

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>>31499477
It's barely any effort to run a brush through it for a little bit, then run a snake through.
I don't even use water when cleaning corrosive ammo, easier and more reliable to just clean normally if I don't want rust.

>>31499422
Sounds good, and I appreciate it.

>>31499466
JBI Armory or M13 Industries.

>>31499466
Piece of History Firearms if you want an autistic level of attention to detail.

>>31497054
I NEED one of those green mags.

>>31499417
https://m13industries.com/pages/frontpage

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>>31499425
Phoenix anon here. Tell me more. Was going to ask these guys to put a lower hg retainer on my WASR. Pic related, it's magpul off my raifu for sale.

>>31499770
Shouldn't be too hard for them. I thought you meant full on conversion.

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>>31499885
I was told by another local guy that there is a risk of the gas and sight block to be damaged in the process of removing and installing, so it wasn't worth the risk just for a proper handguard retainer, and that it was safer just to use a bolt on one. Any guys on here can shoot a tripfag some advice?

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>>31498988
>not using memefilter

Fucking pleb

>>31499950
There's always a risk but if they're scared of just pressing those off and then on, then that's a really shitty gunsmith. Get a proper retainer, not the bolt on.

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Last time I went shooting I brought my SLR104 with my Obzor, and I had to explain to like three people what it was after they saw it and were blown away by how ugly and unusual it is. The rangemaster is an old guy who is really into IDPA and three gun and he really liked it after I let him shoot it. He wasn't too big on the chin weld but he liked how quick he could aquire targets with it and really liked the reticle for shooting fast like he would in three gun.

One of my favorite things about the optic is how many times people have come and asked me what the hell this ugly thing is

>>31500116
It's like being black and bitches wanna feel your hair
>pretty cool man

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>>31500075
Yeah that's what I thought. I have the new one in hand, now it's just finding a competent local Smith to put it on

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>Already on page 7
Wow we dyin boys, not enough NEETs stayin home to keep it alive

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>>31500182
I hope they dont fuck my saiga up....

Question. What drum is best?

Romanian or Russian? Can't get Chinese and fuck Korean mags all together. I'm talking about 7.62x39 of course.

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>>31500862
They better not, I'll send them gooky boys out there to rough them up

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>bump
Hey get my 104UR today
What's the cucké stamp wait times nowadays? 16 months?

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>>31500977
Hahah well thats good to know
> heres some plum

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>>31500987
I'll see your plum and raise you one 5.56 arsenal 5 rounder from ASU.

>>31501029
Nice man you got that ? Lets see if it has issues like my arsenal 10rnd 7.62x39 mag .

>>31501029
Also check for stds if its from ASU.

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>>31501045
Hope not. Someone in town has another, thinking about grabbing it too, both were $10 but this guy was such a nice guy he even gave 5 rounds of .223 <3

>>31501093
Score. Did he have a 106 also ?

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>>31501104
No he was a no gunz ASU guy. His friend gave it to him to sell as be was going to throw it away. Can you believe that? Throw it away...

>>31500980
Not even close to 16 months baka

I think it's gone up since 41f but you could probably get approved within 6 months

>>31499417
NO

Guy totally egged one side of my trunnion when drilling an oversized pin hole for a headspace adjustment. Its fine with the go/no-go gauges now but looks like shit.

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>>31500832
Nigga I'm at work gotta be able to buy all this cool shit

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>>31501029
I raise you a norico 5rnd, arsenal 10rnd, and saiga 10rnd.

>>31500987
Does anyone else have a large number of mags with shit carved into the, in moon runes? Have an interesting story/blog post involving them...

I have an old Byelorussian couple that lives down the street from me. I'd wanted to engage with them as I'm part Byelorussian and have no one to speak the little bits of it and Russian I know. I took a bottle of Tito's and my box of mags with me and knocked on the door. I was invited in by the wife, old man was sitting watching TV. Dude didn't bother to even look at me until I said I had some AK mags, he showed a little interest in that. I set the box down and the first one he pulls out has CYKA carved into it, he just shakes his head and says "you know what that means, durak". They ended up asking me to stay for dinner and as I was leaving the old man asked me if I'd come back over tomorrow, said he needed some help with a ceiling fan.

I go over the next day and help the old man out, his wife was had gotten a ride into town to the community center for a knitting group. After we finish he offers me a beer and says he'd like to show me something. He takes me into his office/study, walls are lined with old Soviet pictures/militaria. Can tell I'm hugely interested, let's me gaze for a minute or so then proudly hands me a picture. Dude was a senior sergeant in the VDV and fought in Afghanistan.

That was last weekend and I'm taking the guy shooting this next Saturday.

>>31501029
>>31501074
Who is ASU?

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>get shitty job
>use layaway on budsgunshop to pay what you can, when you can
>pay off rifle within 90 days
>get ak

It's what I did as a poorfag. Worked for me

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>>31501307
ASU is a local university known for its shitty attendees, some of whom are female and will give you a bj for a shot of cheap liquor.

>>31501285
>gotta catch em all
>I know it's my destiny

>>31501341
Meant to quote
>>31497129

>>31501341
Unless you literally have 0 guns and no way to defend yourself, I wouldn't suggest anyone do this if you're so poor you need to finance to buy a rifle.

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>>31501307
Arizona State University
>>31501306
Nice, i once had a guy from the Romanian army come into my work. He really like to talk about aks and the factory in culgir.
>>31501342
I will be the ak master.

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Mold number 1 ((10)) has a different finnish from my other ((10))s.

>>31501306
I want to believe you. So I do.

Very cool, my friend.

My landlord's a Boston Irish guy who moved out here. He's got a mail-order Romanian wife. Her mother just came over from old country to live with them. I don't have any guns at that apartment, but I've got my Romy donkey dick I'm refinishing, and I can't help but wonder if they'd recognize it.

Ordered a dozen Romy BFPU magazines recently too. I'm hoping they have some markings, though I can't imagine ever knocking on my neighbor's door with a box of magazines in my arms.

>>31500965

Bump for knowledge.

>>31501411
I don't think the Russian drums are worth nearly 3x the price of the Romanians unless you're collecting.

>>31501342
>>31501362
Ok, I guess that's the source of my confusion. I'm well aware of ASU, but it's hard for me to imagine that they manufacture mags, even on a very small scale. Weird.

>>31501362
If you're doing layaway it's not "financing". You put down a deposit and pay the remainder off at a latter date, there is now interest. It's much like building an AR and buying parts as your budget permits.

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>>31501411
My romainian drum sucks and ftf all the time. Top loaders i heard can be better. Drums are novelty imo.

>>31501431
*no interest

>>31501427
He bought it from someone on campus they do not make magazines.....

>>31501423

Uh, looking at a $130 Russian drum. The Romanians are only $10 cheaper.

>>31501439
>My romainian drum sucks and ftf all the time
Common cause of that is under-winding.

>>31501471
Nah man i wind it the 16 clicks. Im pretty sure its just fucked.

>>31501467
Where are you seeing a $130 Russian?

>>31501467
That's a pretty good deal, my dude.
I'd buy it. Make sure it's actually Russian first.

>>31501500
>>31501502

It's on whatacountry. I've had great luck with the East German Bakelites I've gotten from them. Maybe it's a clone, though. It does say "Russian Style", but it's also surplus in cosmoline.

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>>31501274
Nigga me too, getting paid to shitpost the same shitty pics of my mediocre guns is great

Does shitposting at work make one a professional shitposter?

>>31501525
Is it a top or rear loader ?

>>31501525
Those are Romanian.
A lot of the sites selling Romanian drums say "Russian Style" as a marketing tactic.

For a real Russian drum in nice condition you'll pay anywhere from 225 and up.

>>31501423
Id "trust my life" to a Russian top loader. Memes aside its been 100% just as a steel mag

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>>31501531
Nah but it sure is fun. I use like 15g of data per month due to shitposting and whatnot.

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They're here :^)

>>31501551

It's a top loader.

>>31501554

Hmm.

>>31501572
Beryls ?

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>>31501568
>shitposting
This triggers /arg/

>>31501576
If you're still leaning towards that option, at least send them an email and ask first.

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>>31501576
Like the other anon said it a romainian. Id pass and just spend extra on a russain off files. Ive seen them less than 200$.

>>31501587
Why ?

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>>31501572
Oh yeah...

>>31501581
Yep, they're more beautiful than I imagined.
I'm glad I went for used ones instead of new ones, only one of them has noticeable scratches and other than that they are pristine.
I'll try them out on next weekend after my exams.

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>>31501610
I dunno they have sort psychosomatic fetish with bees and self loathing

>>31501447
I guess I'm just retarded. I saw the "A" logo and thought it had something to do with ASU rather than Arsenal.

>>31501647
I got bees on my head, but don't call me a bee head
...
I hang out with an apple that loves self-loathing

>>31501647
Hydrodipped CSGO skins when?

>>31500980
8 months plus probably. They just are getting through approving aprils.

>>31501395
The area I live in is pretty rural, I'd say 90% of the people who live around here shoot in their backyards or the "community range". Real estate agents make it a point to tell prospective buyers that living in this area is something like living in a low-intensity warzone.
>>31501362
When I told the guy I had not one but two AKs the dude's eyes went wide like a 13 year old who just found his dad's stash of skin mags.

>>31501701

Bruce Lee's on my head, but don't call me a Leehead.

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Fair price for a Russian waffle mag with 50% finish?

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>>31501285
those all look like 5rnd

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My first ak, before and after pictures. Only changed the handle to SGM tactical quad rail. Trying to figure how to change the stock. I have removed two screws and been banging away with rubber hammer but it's not coming off ;( any help greatly appreciated.

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>>31501749
45-50$

Bulgarian chromed lined brake or regular arsenal brake on the 104?
The other will be going on my saiga onces its done.

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>>31501778

>>31501783
The one with the matching finish for autism reasons.

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>>31501773
These are 10.

>>31501796
So the bulgarian thats not on the rifle ?
The stock arsenal is the one mounted in the picture.

Do Steel 5.45x39 magazines even exist?

A quick google run returns nothing but poly or poly+steel-reinforced.

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>>31501837

Yes they were made for Polish Tantals. In Poland. By Poles.

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>>31501837
Yes, here is a polish

>>31501837
There are both polish and romanian 5.45x39 steels.

>>31501855
>>31501857
Oh, nice.

I don't suppose they're readily available on the retail market though, huh?

Where would I find some? Auction sites like gunbroker and shit?

>>31501801
i can't quite wrap my fingers around but the arsenal mag still looks like 5rnd. but dont let it bother you as much as it bothers me

>>31501341
Not poorfag, just nothing in stock that's good.

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>>31501891
I thought it was one when i bought it but sure enough it fits 10. I was confused.

>>31499981
What weird hand guard is that??

>>31502041
Its a geissele vat-lok series pretty rare rare now

>>31500965
>>31501411
Romanian if you can find them. You can fully load them, then press the button on the inside to release the spring pressure, allowing you to store it indefinitely with no worries of damaging the spring. Just have to give the key about five winds or so, and your gtg.

>>31501778
Might have to clear the gun, then get over person to hold the rifle while you tug on the stock to get it loose. Sometimes they are very tight fitting. Could also try to put a screwdriver into the little gap at the back of the trunnion inside the rifle and pry it loose a bit, just don't do it too hard.

>>31501875
That, or MAYBE the akfiles or akforum. Seems like you can find most anything there

>>31501875
>Where would I find some?

You probably won't. You'd be very lucky as they were never imported in great numbers and were snapped up very quickly around the time the tantal parts kits were making their way to century derps.

>>31502170
>>31502171
Fuck. Ok, thanks for the info anyways.

Who knows, maybe one day I'll be lucky and find them somewhere.

>>31502134
tried prying it open, would not move at all, i know it will sound stupid, but this is my 1st ak and i don't want to fuck up the rear trunnion by being too aggressive with it.

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>>31501875
They're not very rare, just uncommon. They pop up on AKFiles and shit every now and then, Apex has Romanian steel mags too, but expensive though

>>31502243
You know there is a screw under the guide rod under the dust cover right? Easy mistake

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>>31502382
removed that one too :( I am thinking maybe the circled rivet is holding the stock up? Makes no sense though from design perspective. Im a newbie to ak though...

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What does /akg/ have in the mail?
>bakes and optic related

>>31502767
I just came home from work and got a package that contained a beat up plum Izhmash mag with some trench art carved into it. It has what appears to be a name, a date (2002 is what it looks like) and a long Russian word that I can't read because I don't speak Slav

>>31502767
A 104UR I'm going to go 4473 in an hour. Hopefully she's straight and I'm not delayed.

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>>31502767
I love that furniture

>>31502499
Check the inside compartment of the stock and make sure there's no tension bolt/screw in there like on the Magpul stock. Its the only thing I can think of

>>31502767
A gripand handguard russian plum set i bought for 38$. Should be here tomorrow.

>>31502767
19 steel 30-rounders from Romania and Poland. Can't decide if I should get drum mags or spam cans next. Leaning towards drums.

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>>31502816
Do you think it was a threat?
>>31502832
Gotta pick up a rifle this weekend when I'm back in town. Be sure to post pictures!
>>31502838
Me too. I think it looks well balanced with the PK-A. My SLR-104 is the triangle folder, so it might look a little odd. Ought to take new pictures.
>>31502847
Hype for plum. I need to get at least one plum mag in the next group buy. Wish there was a good source for shiny, but matte will do.

Daily "What AK is in stock?" Post

>>31502981
Browse files man i just got a really nice shiny tula.
Buying this set sight unseen so hopefully its turns out to be nice haha

>>31502499
More rubber mallet/pry from inside against the front of the buttstock pushing out

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In with my shitty rifle that I need to fix. Ft. super rare Izhevsk bakelite prototype magazine.

I'm just waiting on my gunsmith to get done with my JRA Bulgarian '74 repair. The mag well had a couple of little plates inside the receiver above the dimples that were sticking out too far. Couldn't fit a mag in at all. Fingers crossed.

>>31503067
what's wrong with it?
holy shit taht mag is gorgeous, how much did you pay for it?

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>>31502981
Holy fucking shit, your AK looks nearly identical to mine...what teh fuck?

>>31503087
aside from the missing trigger, lel

>>31503087
Made a thread the other day about it, it's got this shitty finish all over the receiver that I need to take off, you can see parts of the barrel where I got it off. It's still shoot-able though.

>>31501306

that's a real treasure there man. gg on the new friend.

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Who /unorganized and messy/ here? I've already got a bit Rubbermaid bin full of parts, mags, furniture and stuff like that, but it's overflowing into my closet and under my bed and my wife is getting mad

>>31503200
>bit
*big

>>31503200
You look like a neat freak compared to me right now

>>31503200
Consider ammo/munitions crates. They're good for adding ambiance to your room and a great way to store your wife.

>>31503200

My lady just made me sort a lot of my shit out. It all made sense to me, now I can't even find a spare buttstock.

>>31503211
This is after selling off somewhere between $600 and $700 in parts, mags, and furniture. This entire shelf was packed full of AK related stuff up almost touching the ceiling, but a lot of it was just sitting around and some of it was for guns I don't even have. I've been trying to get better at not hoarding AK stuff I'm not actually planning on using

>>31502840
thanks :)

>>31503025
thank you :)

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I need advice on what to price my MISR-10 at (pic related). I've seen them go from $800-$900, but everyone is saying that's too high. So what is an actual fair price with two mags and ammo? Can post more pictures if need be.

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>>31503300
For reference it says its made by maadi and imported by century. Also check my double dubs

So I was at a garage sale today and stumbled upon what I think may be an awesome find. I got what appears to be an 86' Tula krink parts kit for $50. It appears to have all the parts (matching SN, too) it would come with and the markings are Tula.

I imagine this is pretty much a steal. What am I looking at spending (excluding cuck stamp) to have this thing put together? I imagine the barrel is going to be the hard part (twist rate?), suggestions?

>>31503300
You shouldn't have a problem selling it for $800 or even $900. MISR10s are the good MISRs. If it was a MISR90 then yeah it'd be harder selling it for that much.

>>31503317
>no pics
yeah fuck off

>>31503333
I have a shitty brick phone with no camera. Someone wanna help me out anyways. Will post pics later if it matters that much.

just noticed slr 104's are in stock again, how often do they come back in stock?

>>31503360
bullshit
even brick phones have cameras

>>31503360
There are refrigerators now that have cameras. I find your story hard to believe.

You'll need a receiver and a barrel. The barrel is the hard part as there are not a whole lot of them.

>>31502074
>to release the spring pressure, allowing you to store it indefinitely with no worries of damaging the spring
That's not how springs work

>What is Hooke's law, Alex?
You can store any mag fully loaded with no un-due stress on the spring.

>>31503328
Thanks, that is what I thought but I haven't gotten anything but people telling me that they bought theirs in the 90s for $300 or that these are worth less than IO

>>31503418
I hate that shit
>I payed $350 for my WASR back in 2004 when they were made with reject surplus parts
>why would you pay $650 for a WASR made with non-fucked parts, plus WASRs suck because they used to be made with reject surplus parts

boomers are the fucking worst

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Got a question for /akg/, looking to change out my handguard for something with a bit more extension on the fore-end. Looking at either the Troy (bleh) M-Lok Short Rail or the MI Gen 2 M-Lok handguard.

Any suggestions or alternatives anyone can recommend?

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>>31503405
My calico thinks otherwise

>>31503467
MI sucks. It clamps into the barrel and degrades accuracy.

>>31503489
>You can store any mag fully loaded with no un-due stress on the spring.
>no un-due stress on the spring
>the SPRING

So a constant force on your shitty mag destroyed the body of the magazine? I'm going to guess that, based on a scientific law, the spring is just fine.

>>31503516
>destroyed the body
Or feed lips. Which is the more likely point of failure.

>>31503467
Zenitco B30

>>31501488
7 full rotations

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These dumb AK files cucks need to hurry up and approve my account. I need to make my WASR-10 look not shit god damnit.

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>>31503418
I just bought a Intrac import Maadi ARM for $920 a few weeks back (NO RAGRETS) and I've already had people bitching and moaning to me about how 20 years ago it only cost a couple hundred bucks and I'm an idiot for paying that much. This is how imported guns work and there's always going to be a bunch of people who will complain about it. Hell my Chinese AK was bought NIB with extras for $350 in the mid 80s, and now I've seen the exact same model gun imported by the exact same importer in worse shape than mine sell for $1600 to $1800. Guns that aren't imported anymore always go up in price. The same people who bitch about AKs being expensive when they used to only cost $200 are the same people who have no problem spending $3000 on preban HK rifles because "well they're collectible and HK, not some crappy AK.

I second what that anon said about how much you could get for it. After buying mine I've seen three or four more Maadis (with fixed stock and not a folder though) sell online for $800 and up.

>>31503558
Really the manual said 5 complete rotations ?

>>31503575

Who seriously thought those stocks were a good idea?

>>31503611
North Africans

>>31503516
You've never bought a clutch for a calico mag rebuild..but your helical mag expertise is appreciated >>31503524

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>>31503684

>>31503716
>moving goal posts
Was a spring under pressure the thing that failed?
Is a scientific law is still true?
Sorry I don't own a helical mag.

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>>31503611
It's not a bad stock. I prefer the wire stock of it and my vz to my triangle stock. The triangle stock is more comfy when shooting but the crutch and vz stock both deploy much faster and are more practical folding stocks. Underfolders are neat too but sidefolding wire stocks are generally more comfy and easier to deploy than any underfolder I've used.

I unironically like folding stocks on AKs. They have a cool utilitarian look and feel about them and they are just super handy. Fixed stocks are more comfy but folders are just cooler.

>>31503630
Actually the Egyptians first had East German folding stocks and when they started to produce their own they came up with the crutch. They're nearly identical minus the shape of the stock.

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$550 for this rifle

I have little experience with AKs or even AK type rifles but this seems like a really low price, comparable to something like a WASR. Why?

>>31503794
so, North Africans had that idea then...

>>31503804
No. crappy American barrel. Just get a WASR.

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>>31503804
Barrel is shit. Otherwise seems okish.>>31503742
I move goalposts constantly. I replaced all internals. It's a ton of pressure.....keep cranking

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>>31502767
Stuffff. Also beautiful ak

>>31502832
Pictures when you get it, one of us one of us

>>31503200
Actually just sorted my gun room it was a mess

>>31503317
Pics or it didn't happen
>>31503611
>>31503630
No talking shit about my people, we waz kings

>>31503684
Needing a clutch in your mag

>>31503853
Don't act like you don't love the calico
->his mag doesn't use a clutch..

>>31503839
>>31503848
except for the part where it has a short gas system and a standard length barrel, meaning more battering/recoil
if you were going to SBR it...

>>31503877
It's okay I'm just jealous


When shooting today and didn't enjoy 7.62x39 much as I used to...damn you 5.45

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>>31503959
Is it bad I don't want to shoot my spam cans and end up shooting Hornady everytime? You can borrow the calico anytime. I still haven't shot it upside down Ala bizon

Are east german kits dried up? Can't find a single kit on the files or online.
There's one in gb but I don't want the 4150 barrel for 750

>>31504025
Save them and shoot one of the circus animals ammo. >tfw wasn't into 5.45 before the 7n6 ban.

Why haven't you shot it!!!? What state are you in?

>>31504025
Just buy commercial 5.45.

>>31504044
Yup. AOA had some mint ones 5 months ago. Kicking myself right now.

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Submitted my work order to PoHF for this kit

>>31504025
I have two crates I bought when 7n6 was banned that I'm keeping the cans sealed at least for now. Definitely wouldn't use Hornady as the alternative though.

>>31504101
Nc. Yeah I have shot it. Just not upside down. But yeah you are welcome to borrow whenever

>>31504025
I have a crate of 7N6 sitting around as well that I paid about 530 for shipped. I refuse to shoot it on the basis that I'm a faggot hoarder. Also the reason I never buy 7N6, even for a good deal, cause I'll be too pussyshit to shoot it

>>31504125
It's finally happening!!!


>>31504128
Awesome, sometime when I'm on that side visiting chimps I'll have to come by, I'm in NE if you ever are nearby and want to shoot

>Everyone in /akg/ is either east of the Mississippi or innadesert in Arizona
Anyone in Washington?

>>31497120
DanK-74 m'boy

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>>31504263
Auburn area here

>>31504299
What reciever is that?
Dear God how many store fronts must I find

>>31497120
If only it was an original domestic receiver. Guards rifles are becoming some rare pepes nowadays.

>>31504320
ArmoryUSA

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>>31504263
Island/Skagit counties here

>>31504236
Pay for the transfers and you can borrow it for 72 days

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Hmm

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>>31504399
Hmmmmm

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>>31503853
>>31502981
i feel like a AKSU is a milestone for that boi, yung slavaboo. One must have at least a few AKs before justifying the krink. $400 for stamps now, wow. I can see NFA getting expensive for some of you guys out there with deep collections.

Hopefully I'll have some time to sock away a little more money for another rifle or 2 before we say any sort of ban. Double trouble here with the state shilling hard too especially after the Turk shooting up Macy's

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>>31504389
lol you'd just send me your gun

>>31504399
SHOW US, KING OF SLAVSHIT!

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shit I can't do this to you guys

>bought an airshit bizon and it's all out of size. At least a real muzzle brake fits

wasrfag here, i wanna replace the tRASh wood on my wasr, what does /akg/ think of the tula factory wood on atlantic firearms

>>31504263
Everett here

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>>31504419
I'd have a name a location. I'm ok doing that. Just call me trusting

Got the second package today. Springs floor plates and followers.
For rusanon if you're here, the packages weren't opened and I really appreciate you labeling what the contents were. Thanks m8

>>31504529
>$140+shipping
>For a WASR

This guy has used '74 sets (yes they'll fit) for $90 shipped.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271926

And you don't even have to be a Files member, just shoot him an email.

>>31504705

>For a WASR

am i autistic for wanting to put $400+ worth of stuff on/in my WASR?

>>31504770
Yes. But that's ok

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>>31504782
was gonna try to make something similar to this, is my autism clearly showing or is this acceptable?

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>>31504696
When you sending mags out ? Emailing tracking numbers?

>>31504804
This isn't acceptable. But if it makes you happy....I'm happy for you michael/christopher

>>31504832
I've only got 2/5 packages so far

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>>31504860
thank you

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>>31504864
Come on 45 round bakes

>>31504591
I actually might have to take you up on that once my helical mag thing is finished, would be a neat comparison

>>31504804
you don't need to buy Russian wood to get that look

>>31504965
is that romanian wood then? or another type

Planning on getting this once the transfer FFL gets back to me. Any reason why I shouldn't?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/587938355

>>31504977
any surplus wood with bulged handguards will look more or less like that
if you don't like the color, you can refinish it yourself and dye your shellac or mix different colors up to get a wide range of finishes

>>31504962
Just let me know in a ak thread. Use a burner email. I'll send a time stamped pic with the gun of your choice at the tub/vice versa. And we'll be good.

ok, so should i bother putting $400 worth of stuff on my WASR/replacing stuff on it, or should i just buy a new gun all together that is worthy of upgrading

>>31504992
It's not an opap. But seriously it will be fine for an underfolder. Ps underfolder sucks

>>31505067
Buy another guns with a little more and then work on that one

>>31505067
We talking Zenit shit?

You fucking tell us. How does it perform?

>>31505086
>>31505088

>>31504804
already posted what i planned on doing

its just an average wasr, nothing crazy about it, shoots fine, and it came with the signature slight cant

im not opposed to just keeping it in the safe and going out and buying a new (preferably stamped) gun and working from there

>>31505075

But it'll be so much easier to get in to my apartment without alarming the normies.

>>31505064
Cool! Just drop me an email and we can get this ball rolling ;-)

[email protected]

>>31497712
I have a shipment of 40 coming in. Is $25 ok for a brand new one?

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>>31505112
>already posted what i planned on doing

assuming most of that money is in the optic..


Fuck it. Go for it. What we think shouldn't matter as long as it works for you.

>>31505164
Sent

>>31505219
haha thnaks ;-)

>>31505212
list of shit that i was considering:
>hogue grip
>ALG AKT
>extended CH
>cnc warrior compact brake
>ultimak
>PA advanced micro dot

>>31505219
>check inbox
>he actually sent it
Bro stop you are about to mail me a free gun do you not read the hashes Jesus dude

>>31505212
>What we think shouldn't matter as long as it works for you.
>>31505243

Breh. I'm saying go for it. Actually what you want to do is very similar to what I want to do, sans Ultimak cuz I think they're gay.

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>>31505251
Don't you make me doubt my trust in a trip .....fucking storefronts

>>31505269
alright, i will put trust in my wasr

thanks, hombre

>>31503405
If it doesn't hurt the spring to fully load it and keep it that way, why would they bother making it to were you could release the pressure?

>>31498006
i have a romy wire folder like your pic related, paid 90 bucks for it from somebody on barfcom. its was pretty uncomfortable and now i use a regular wooden stock.

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>>31505356
>i will put trust in my wasr
It doesn't sound like there is no reason to not trust it. They aren't as shit as people make them out to be.

>>31505366
For the components that could be damaged by pressure from the spring.

I'm not entirely sure how it works for rear-loaders, but top-loading drums can pretty much be loaded and stored indefinitely as long as it won't rust in your environment.

If it has a way of releasing the spring without spewing rounds, I assume it's more complex than just a spring winding and storing the pressure and likely to have parts that could fail after long term storage, but that's just a guess. Regardless, top loaders>>>>>rear loaders

>>31505416
looking for some surplus wood atm, is there any place other than akfiles i can find some decently priced wood?

>>31505506
Looks like Apex is out of AKM Balkan kits. I wouldn't know where else to recommend you.

>>31505543
yea i was looking there, cant find much that isnt overpriced at the moment, oh well, ill keep the ras wood for a little

>>31505624
What about gunbroker or even eBay? Maybe AIM surplus?

>>31504804
Why not just go for a khyber build if you're going to fuck it up that much? Basically just forget the ultimak and the magpul, then optionally cover it in pin-ups and paki tape

>>31505683
didnt plan on getting the magpull mag pull, is ultimak really that gay?

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>>31504415
Hear, hear.
Thinking about a good "truck gun", and was entertaining some options including a PAP M92, SU-16C, and an actual krink clone

>>31505835
Side rail is top-tier for mounting optics on AK rifles. IMO the gas tube options less than ideal.
>heat
>weight closer to muzzle causes more fatigue
Also, exposed rails are ugly.

>>31505938
you make a good point, for a khyber build would i need the donkey dick? i just liked weird distress the guy had on the receiver of the original pic desu

>>31505997
Not necessarily. You don't need a triangle folder either, just gotta have honest wear and bling. Key word being honest.

My Khyber build will have a dong and paki tape basically. Might put velvet tassels on the cleaning rod and put together a flashy sling.

>>31506058
yeah, i guess it wouldn't matter as long as i'm not going after an actual clone one.

would it be worth dishing out the money for a decent scope+side mount for a WASR though?

>>31506076
Not unless you had another rifle to put it on. There aren't many optics which would look right on a Khyber. PGO perhaps. Anything in the silver hammer finish (PSO, etc.) would probably be passable.

>>31506184
since im not going with an actual khyber build and more of an inspired one I might just get some PA scope and put it on it. biggest problem im seeing at the moment is finding some good wood for it, i guess in time i will find some for a good price

>>31506277
Yeah, just stick it out and wait for a deal to pop up. You know what to look for; it's just a matter of time.

Hey anyone had any experiences with interstate arms imports? There's an ak with an oval 386 and it says made in China. Just wondering if the 760 price tag is worth it

>>31506459
If it is as you say, then you are looking at a Polytech. Those are some of the most desirable AK rifles.
Look it over and do your homework to be sure. Some importers do weird things when the rifles come stateside, it's probably somewhere on the spectrum of neutered (sporting purpose, etc.), and look out for any user modifications which may also devalue it.

>>31506525
Yeah it doesn't have a pistol grip, bayonet lug or threaded barrel but it looks like they just screwed a nut over the threads. When I go in tomorrow I'll take some pics so akg can tell me I'm functionally retarded

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>>31506362

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>>31506576

>>31506576
>>31506618
That bakelite us sweet man.
I loke you choice in optic mount also

>>31506618
Does your bayo not engage properly?

>>31503592
Really? Just one rotation?

>>31506872
No five rotations

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>>31506701

>>31506525
Also is the polytech a good first ak? I've been hunting around for about 4 months but I couldn't really find an ak I like. Will this spoil me and set a bar that I can't top without dropping exponential amounts of money?

>>31497579
the range guys who rent full autos said those were always the first to go.

>>31497846
anything active? any cheaper functional 5.45 mags than these at $9.88?

https://www.cdnnsports.com/545x39-30rd-brown-bulgarian.html

>>31507231
Yeah, a good rule of thumb for your first AK is 7.62 and 16".
You can go against the grain, but unless you really know what you're getting into, this will be the AK you probably want.

>>31507264
Alright thanks, any way to tell the difference between a milled and stamped receiver on a poly? Also will post pics from pawn shop tomorrow after work

>>31507299
Milled will have a wide rectangular lightening cut just above where the magazine goes. Milled will have a small ovular dimple (about the width of a quarter) around the same area. It's more likely that it will be stamped.

>>31507335
Second sentence should begin with stamped.

>>31507299
I have a poly man, they are cool don't get me wrong, but they don't bring me any more or less joy than my less collectible AKs. Honestly it wouldn't be the last AK I sold if I had to sell all my rifles.

http://youtu.be/aSuAPjw2Jgw

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>>31507335
Alright thanks for the info guys, I'll get the pics tomorrow for a general condition of it,

So apparently Serbia is now using 6.5 AK's. Their Special forces, at least.

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