Revolvers

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Here we go...

Between which companies? You gave us no criteria.

>>31433007
Rugers are indestructable

Taurus wheelgats aren't classy but they werk.

S&W is classy

Colt needs to make more Pythons.

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>>31433007
They're gr8 m8.

>>31433046
Colt haven't made revolvers since the 90's

>>31433046
S&W wheel guns are cucked

>>31433057
But they're the only company I see with 8-round .357 Magnums

I'm probably going to buy an Enfield today. I'm really excited because I've wanted a break-action revolver for years and I already missed out on buying a few handguns I've wanted.

I would have bought the Webley that the store had but it was $1100.

>>31433007
Smith & Wesson, obviously.

>>31433057
IIRC the TRR8 is not.

>>31433007
My cock.

>>31433057
>muh hillary hole

Jesus Christ, it's been 16 years since that and you fags are still bitching about it?

>>31433143
What the hell are the differences between the R8 series and the 627 magnums?

>>31433153
>implying they have anything other to do than sit on a chinese cartoon weapons imageboard and complain about autistic menial crap that S&W did when I was 4 years old

Just get a Manurhin that hasn't been shot to shit. Those are objectively better than anything currently on the market, and they aren't terribly expensive for it.

>>31433238
>Those are objectively better than anything currently on the market
>Ignoring Korth

>>31433143
the trr8 and r8 also has the cucklock

>>31433258
What is this "cucklock?"

Aside from looking like shit, do the hillary holes cause any problems with the function of the guns? Couldn't you remove the lock and just fill the hole?

They're still good guns

>>31433263
The Hillary Hole

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>>31433263
Also known by the name hillary hole. Traditionalists really dislike it.
>>31433291
The guns are as high quality as ever, and most people just ignore the lock, or remove it and fill it in yeah.

>>31433252
Eh, forgot about them. They're an expensive niche anyway. Good guns, don't get me wrong, but they're off in the land of custom guns.

>>31433007

>Revolvers

Who gives a fuck, no one actually uses them. They're range toys at this point.

>>31433327
I need to be able to kill a bear and a person, possibly both in the same encounter.

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Oh also S&W masterrace reporting in

>>31433302
That sounds really dumb, but it looks removable.

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>>31433454
doesnt always look that nice afterwards

>>31433508
Could be a lot worse.

Just thinking right now, I would go Smith & Wesson if I do .357 Mag because they offer 8-round revolvers in that cartridge and I think I would go Ruger for their "indestructible" qualities if I went .44 Mag.

Not sure about any of the other snowflake rounds like .460 and .480 Ruger but they seem a bit more than needed.

>>31433539
i love the trr8 and r8's, only thing turning me off is the scandium frame desu.

I'd never buy a revolver with that bullshit lock.

What kinda revolver would you hunt a boar with?

>>31433341

>semi auto 10mm don't exist

>>31433932
>10mm is good for bear

>>31433327
trollin

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>>31433007
Crye precision

>>31433046
>Ruger are indestructible
I had an early LCR that managed to shave lead, and the cylinder lock failed. After I got it back in from Ruger I sold it for a loss just to get rid of it.

My dad had a liberty edition security six that is a glorious tank though.

>>31434126
Why does this look like it's rendered?

>>31434137
Really weird perspective; it's hanging on a wall.

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>>31433057
>literally does nothing
>can be removed in minutes
>is on the way of being phased out
Are you a paid marketer or something?

>>31433454
It is, rather easily so, too, a bit like taking out a magazine disconnect from an automatic.

You take off the sideplate and then remove the lock mechanism, there's many guides online, google "S&W keylock removal" or "Hillary Hole removal"
This will leave an empty hole in your sideplate, but it's the principle of taking it out, and there are ways to plug/cover the hole, aftermarket pieces, new sideplates, etc.

>>31433302
>The guns are as high quality as ever
Sort of, they're not poor quality or anything, but there's manufacturing methods they have devised over the years to make some parts of the guns cheaper to make (and also sell), which aren't necessarily bad things in themselves.

>>31433539
Honestly I don't see the appeal of an 8 shot .357, fucker is tall and fat, too clumsy for me, I prefer a 4" six shooter.

>>31433868
A Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 or .454

Otherwise I'd love to use a Desert Eagle in .440 some day.

>>31434004
Depends on the 10mm and depends on the bear.

Black bear can be dropped with .357 no sweat.

For 10mm, I've seen some cool bullets which absolutely could demolish a brown bear, such as those Lehigh solid copper bullets.

>>31434593
If I'm going to get a six-shooter I might as well get a .44 in my eyes.

Or I could go 100% faggot and get a 5-round .500 S&W Magnum.

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>>31434673
Six shot .357s with 4" barrels are so handy and pleasantly balanced though.

MR73 with 5 1/4 barrel, gonna buy one for myself for christmas

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the french

>>31433007
It's hiiiiiigh noon

>>31433057
That was fast

>>31433007
S&W and ruger are good. I love my dan Wesson though

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>>31433007
currently or back before s&w cucked themselves?

currently ruger is the ONLY quality revolver manufacturer for double action guns. uberti makes nice single action colt replicas.

if you dont mind buying a used firearm, older double action colts and smith and wessons are amazing.

>>31434593
>>literally does nothing
>>can be removed in minutes
>>is on the way of being phased out
1. ugly as fuck
2. possible failure point
3. ugly as fuck
4. i havent heard about it being phased out but im surprised the retards in charge of s&w took this long to realize their decline in sales was due to the brilliant idea of drilling an incredibly ugly hole in the left side of their once aesthetic frame

>>31433186
Tacticoolness.

ruger

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>>31433046
>Colt needs to make more Pythons.

Pietta makes Python clones. They look sexy af, but I'm unsure about quality.

EAA are pretty indestructible. Rough, but they go bang. They're kind of like the HiPoints of revolvers. Cheap and reliable. The 4in model kind of resembles a Python. I'd like to get one personally.
>pic related

I had a .357 windicator 2in snubby. Aside from the rough trigger, I rather liked it... as cheap as it was.

>>31434621
>Otherwise I'd love to use a Desert Eagle in .440 some day.

I'd love a carbine in .440 corbon...pure sexiness!

>>31434673
>100% faggot and get a 500
You could go 80% faggot and get a .460 like I did.

>>31435034
Or 75% faggot and go .454 casull

>>31435034
.460 Rowland?
That stuff I shoot out of muh m1911?

>>31434808
Shut the fuck up /v/irgin

>>31435384
.460 S&W Magnum, it's like the .454 Casull version of .454 Casull.

It'll push a 200 grain bullet to 2330 fps out of the 8 inch barrel.

>>31434841
>ugly as fuck
Agree.

>possible failure point
I've seen people say this, but to my knowledge, there's only like one recorded instance of it locking up a gun when firing.

>>31434915
>Pietta makes Python clones.
>They look sexy af
That doesn't really look like a Python, a S&W 686 looks more like a Python than that monstrosity.

>>31433291
Hillary holes have been known to lock up guns on occasion, by engaging the lock.

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Freedom Arms
Manurhin
Korth

im saving up for a 627 and a 629. im gonna be pissed if they start making them without hilary holes within a couple years of me buying them. any tips for cleaning up the removed hilary hole? im less worried about the hole and more about the gap by the hammer, seems like some big shit can get in there.

>>31435062
the .460 shoots .454 and .45 colt

>>31435533
>Freedom Arms

Most single action ever.

>>31435555
Why don´t you just buy a pre-Hilary hole revolver to begin with? Are they expensive in burgerland?

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>>31435475
The pic I posted above is a 4in EAA Windicator.

>pic related is Pietta P1955

>>31435621
because those are the ones i want and they are new models

>>31434700
Once you are past the mindset that 9mms bounce off of bears, nothing is ever big enough.

>>31435820
>nothing is ever big enough.
That's what she said

>>31435975
The funny thing is that 9mm can probably still kill most small bears, if it's FMJ +P

>>31435989
Probably take a mag dump though. Thick hide, lots of fat, probably won't break bone but deflect. Don't think I'd be willing to find out....even on a 350lb black bear.

>>31436399
I have the feeling most defensive shootings against bears are mag dumps no matter what sort of a hand cannon you're carrying

>>31436399
If you're worried about bears you'd be carrying a rifle anyways.

>>31436479
Kek true!

>>31436529
Like the .500sw nugget I'm going to build :D

>>31433007
>What company makes better wheelguns?
Korth, Manurhin.

If we're talking non-snowflake guns then definitely Ruger. They're a newer/stronger design, more affordable and the disparity in trigger pulls between say a stock GP100 and stock 686 is vastly overstated and may not even really be true very often these days. Smiths are so overrated due to nostalgia it is fucking sickening.

>>31436854
Where did the Smith & Wesson touch you?

>>31436909
I don't actually hate Smiths, it's just years of reading novices and ignorant old hicks engage in the same dumb motherfucking debates concerning investment casting and the like over and over again has taken its toll.

>>31433046
>Colt needs to make more Pythons.
They can't.

>>31435555
There exist plugs you can buy from some people to place in the hole.

In the worst case, you could get a machinist to make you a new sideplate without the hole, but I'm thinking that isn't necessarily cheap.

>>31435621
Older models can be worth more as they involved finer machining in some cases. There's also the matter of how the barrel is attached.

Finally, it's also just the whole collector's market thing, you should see Colt revolvers, a Python goes for thousands because
>it was an inherently expensive design
>it was intended as a more luxurious revolver
>Colt stopped making the Python
>Colt eventually stopped making revolvers entirely
>it's been in a shitload of movies and vidya

>>31437446

the lock hole isn't on the sideplate, it's part of the frame.

>>31435555
>checked
I'm also looking at a 629 for my next revolver. Even going raw MSRP it's cheaper and prettier than a Ruger, and I'm damn well not paying MSRP.

what's the best .44 magnum for hunting? I've been spying the 629 in 4", thoughts?

Ruger is the best once you get the trigger worked out.

Raging bulls have to be up towards the top too. The other Taurus revolvers I've seen and shot have been nice

SW makes amazing guns, but they don't hold up like a Ruger.

Colts shoot loose after a few thousand factory loads but are by far the smoothest. For a reloader shooting light loads they're the best.

Rossi makes good cheap guns, no frills, just shootersnthat work well.

If I had to buy revolvers from all one maker, it would be ruger without a doubt.

>>31437446
The snake guns, especially the Python, skyrocketed in value cuz of The Walking Dead TV show. But yes....thousands now. Posses me off. But yet the Desert Eagle didn't skyrocket due to COD faggots...go figure.

>>31437528
>for hunting
I should specify that the revolver would be a sidearm. Rifle is primary.

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>>31437528
>what's the best .44 magnum for hunting?
Marlin 1894. The 629 is a nice companion sidearm for that.

>>31437534
>skyrocketed in value cuz of The Walking Dead TV show
It was expensive long before that TV show.

>But yet the Desert Eagle didn't skyrocket due to COD faggots
Because they still make the Desert Eagle, the Python hasn't been made in decades.

>>31437533
>>31437056
To be fair, when you think Wild West, you think Colt.

When you think Dirty Harry, you think Smith & Wesson.

Hell, even my weeaboo idol Daisuke Jigen owns a Model 19.

I saw a Dan Wesson at a gun show the other day and now I really want one.

Can /wgg/ (Wheel Gun General, we should really have one) recommend me one?

>>31437663
And I concur /k/omrade. But TED and Rick Grimies shit the price up more.

I'm 39....when I 7, I had a black Python cap gun. I thought it was the coolest, meanest, baddest looking gun to ever exist...even more so than my Rambo tec-9 battery operated machine gun water gun.

I saw a chart showing the snake guns increase in value over the last few years....and there was a very prominent spike when TWD hit TV.
>tfw you know you'll never be able to afford a Python :(

>>31433153

Well, it's still there, isn't it?

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>>31433007
Buying a Ruger GP100 this weekend. I'll never buy another S&W revolver made within the last 2 decades

>Order S&W Model 66-8
>Pic related arrives at LGS
>Front sight off-center
>Barrel is canted and is missing one of the top-strap cuts (on the left side just above the rear sight in pic 2)
>Ball-detent didn't lock up properly
>Chipping in the metal on the front of the yoke
>Small chip in the metal to the right of the hammer
>Crown wasn't even completely machined
>Tried it out at my LGS's range
>Shot 1 foot high at 7 yards

S&W offered to repair it for free. S&W sent it back to the LGS after several weeks and left 2 nice scratches on the now-machined crown. Their solution to it shooting high? A lower rear sight.

Don't even get me started on my 442 that had a broken hammer-stud from the factory

>>31433291
There have been some extreme cases where they have completely disabled the firearm.
Primarily using +P rounds and higher grains for the caliber.

I wanted to buy a S&W 36 as a back up gun.
This thread really turned me off of that.

I wish Colt still made the detective.

Whats the best SA/DA 38 snub nose currently in production?

>inb4 LCRx
Ive considered it but Id like something with wood grips.

>>31439544
The rear sight on my SP101 was cut off center. It shot true though, so I didn't complain.

>>31439639
Why the fuck is the only revolver Colt makes anymore the Single-Action Army remake?

>>31439544
Fack anon....I'm so sorry. Why didn't you refuse delivery though?

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>>31439639

>>31439652
Looking up an SP101... what is the point of a 5-round .357?

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>>31439823
Fun rhinos....

>look at me trying to be tacticool. Wheel gun mall ninjas love me!

Overpriced paperweights

>>31439796
>Why would I want a small revolver that hits as hard as a big revolver?

You have to make sacrifices when it comes to conceal-ability, anon. A snub .357 will hit like a 4 inch .38 special +P+, which is generally enough to do the job in a package that can be hidden with relative ease.

>>31439866
>jelly poorfag
errytiem

>>31439928
I guess I'm still thinking about follow up potential.

love my security six but the grips are fucked

how do I get a nice set of custom wood grips made?

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>>31439639
No SA and not .38 only but still small and light, and a six shooter to boot. These things look sweet as fuck, I hope they sell enough to consider making other variations.

>>31439938
If you say so....had a chance to buy a used one for $400 at LGS couple months ago....and I passed. Didn't like it. Would rather spend that on a Sig. Or even a Glawk.....and that's saying something

>>31440105
Clearly, I do say so. Are you illiterate on top of being poor? Then again the two do go hand in hand.

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>>31440169
If that's your train of thought, than I declare you like trap cock/boi pucci. Which wouldn't surprise me. Afterall, everybody needs a hobby.

>>31440217
Not healthy to project your homosexuality onto others. Best to come to terms with your sexual orientation.

>>31440241
Sigh....I know it's the weekend, but go back to /b/

>>31440450
I'll do that as soon as you go back to >>>/lgbt/.

>>31439796
They also make six shooter SP101s in .327 mag.

>>31440642
One hell of a meme caliber,

>>31433298
But no one uses the Hillary hole not even Bill.

>>31441267
Huma might beg to differ.

>>31439544
And I had almost talked myself into getting over the fucking lock just because S&W revolvers still look sexy...

Nevermind. Unless I find a pre-lock used one in great shape, I think I'm just giving up on Smith.

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>>31433007
I live within 40 miles the toklat river, my next purchase is definitely a ruger super Redhawk toklat in .454

https://youtu.be/ll--DXOWPyA

Hickok45s take on it. My 45-70 can deliver more energy but it's also not a revolver.

>>31433007
Korth if you have money to burn.
S&W if you want affordable quality.
Colt if can get a classic in mint condition for a good price.

>>31439866
>mallninja tacticool
literall no attachments on it?

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>>31439639
Ruger SP101

>>31439928
>A snub .357 will hit like a 4 inch .38 special +P+,
It really won't, a snub .357 will hit like a snub .38, there isn't enough barrel length for the burning powder to accelerate the bullet further, so you get a very tiny boost in velocity, while the rest of the powder just blows out the muzzle (and cylinder gap), making a big bright and loud fireball.

>>31433007
Smith & Wesson?

>>31439943
First result off Google for "custom wood grips for Security Six":
http://www.badgercustomgrips.com/custom-grips/ruger/ruger-security-six.html

Pricey, but it's available in six colors and they look high quality.

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>>31441799
>>31439639

>>31439940
Chiappa rhino. 6'o clock barrel really helps. Wish there were more options for that style wheelgat.

>>31437562
I've been wanting to pick one of these up as a cartridge partner for my revolver. Has Marlin's quality control gotten better in the last few years? Back to normal standards at least?

>>31439544
Holy fuck. I'm honestly surprised S&W didn't try to suck your dick as an apology for this abomination.

Uberti?

>>31441851
I hear it's recently improved since they replaced all their old worn out tooling.

>>31441898
I hope so. I've been wanting one for a good while now but have been hesitant to get one

>>31441813
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/113498-needle-muzzle-velocity-357-out-2-1-8-a.html

http://www.luckygunner.com/cci-38-spl-ammo-for-sale-38specialp125jhpcci-50

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900642685/winchester-usa-ammunition-38-special-p-125-grain-jacketed-hollow-point

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=21

Your so wrong it hurts. Sp101 masterrace.

>>31441914
From everything I've read they're good again.

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>>31441972
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/38special.html

Looking at a Colt revolver with a "2~ barrel, it averages somewhere around 800 to 900 feet per second with average .38 Special loads

Looking at an unspecified gun with a "2 barrel, it averages about 900 feet per second, one load breaking 1000, now consider the vague gain of maybe 150 feet per second, versus the increased noise and flash, which can be disorienting and unhelpful in darker places or more enclosed spaces.

Comparably, a S&W 642 with a "1.8 barrel appears to average around 800 to 900 with .38 Special loads

Looking at .357 from a 3" barreled Derringer, it has a considerable boost of up to 1100 to 1200 feet per second, whereas it appears the same gun averages around 800 to 900 with .38s, at this barrel length, we're starting to see a bigger difference.

Are Dan Wesson revolvers any good?
I see them online once in a while and started to look into them and they sound pretty cool.

>>31442199
> extra energy doesn't matter
> no one makes low flash short barrel .357 magnum loadings even though you posted one of the several types.
> muh wrist.

9mm fag detected. Gtfo.

>>31441851
New new Marlins are good again. Not as good as they were, but ages better than in the 2009 rempocylapse.

>>31433508

Looks like liberty to me, anon.

>>31434004
In Soviet Russia, bear 10mms you! Then bear drop gun after wiping it down, claim you shot self for treason.

>>31442226
Yes they're pretty much considered directly below Manurhin in quality

>>31442199
> Anywhere from 10-25% increase in ft-lbs.

Your looking and velocity only. Of course the 110gr .38 special +p is only going 150 fps slower than the 158gr .357 mag.

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>>31434700
True

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>>31442438
>extra energy doesn't matter
It matters to a point, and it matters to weigh it against the drawbacks, I'll gladly trade a rough 100fps for a lot less flash and noise if I have to shoot in a cramped or dark space, that's a tiny difference in velocity compared to reduced concussive force (matters in tight spaces, such as say inside a car, or in an alley) and reduced chance of being blinded (a concern when it's dark)

>wrist
Where did I mention recoil anywhere in the post?

>low flash short barrel .357 magnum loadings
I actually know nothing about these, please educate me about them.

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>>31442756
BROTHER!

>>31442766
The trouble is that your 100fps difference isn't an apples to apples comparison because the bullet weight is changing.

>>31441799
This makes me sad
The date is my birthday
And yesterday my dad told me he wasn't going buy an sp101 for my birthday after months of silence

Well, at least I'm going to get that new sound system

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Soon....

>>31442782
Good choice. Laphroaig and s&w

>>31442791
Fair enough, but how useful is higher bullet weight actually when it comes to similar velocities? There'll be more recoil, won't there?

>>31442766
> please educate me

Didn't bother even clicking my first links I see. Buffalo bore makes some wild ones with low flash. Federal and hornady also offer styles.

> where did I mention recoil.
I could hear your weak wrists in your typing.

> if I had to shoot in a cramped dark space I want the round that will kill the bad guy slower. Cause noise and flash is more painful than ruptured anus by BBC.

>>31442867
It's not a matter of comfort, it's a matter of being able to still see and not becoming disoriented by blast, things which are important if you have to fight for your life.

>>31442886
Muzzle flashes in the dark are not that bad. It's not like your .38 special +p load won't have any flash. Your ears will still be ringing and it will take the same .2 of a second to regain your vision completely.

The only good reasons to pick .38 over .357 are that your either broke as fuck and can only afford ghetto blasters, or you have glass wrists and it's still better than .22

>>31434593
>>31434841
so are they phasing out the fucking hillary hole or not?

>>31442861
>Confirmed for not knowing what the fuck he's talking about

>>31433007
I just wants pics of sexy wheelgats

>>31442944
S&W phasing the Hillary Hole out is a pipe dream. S&W was purchased by Saf-T Hammer, the company that invented the damn thing. It's their baby, the sole reason they still exist. It's not going away, period.

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>>31439639
They make lcrx's and you can put wood grips on it yourself

Nogunz here. Today I shot a revolver in .44-40 but I couldn't identify it. Was a six-shooter, the wheel was fixed and I had to sue a little pusher below the barrel to push the brass out. Any idea ?
Would say a SAA of some sort, but I'm ignorant as fuck in the revolver area.

>>31443359
> he doesn't memorize the model of every gun he has ever shot.

Fucking casuals.

>>31442782
>Laphroaig

Stop reminding me that I'm poor and can only afford cheap bourbon.

In other news anyone ever shot a S&W500 before? How was it?

>>31443359
So many companys have made saa's that unless you have more to go on I have no idea where to start.

>>31434700
Marlinfag here. I already have a few hundred rounds of .44 magnum so I feel like it would be silly to get a .357 revolver and not share ammo.

>>31443735
After a bit of research, I think it was a Colt Model 1873. Will confirm next time I see the owner

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>>31443838
Fair enough, but you could also get a .357 rifle later to pair it up with.

If you want a .44 which is a bit less bulky (about the size of a .357 six-shooter, roughly), the S&W M69 has a 5-shot cylinder, making the gun less tall and wide, as well as lighter.

The indexing lugs are also between the chambers, so I figure that might make it stronger, for handling hotter loads.

What are your guy's opinion on .460 S&W and .454 Casull?

>>31444301
Meme rounds for recoil addicts, unless you live in Alaska. Then they're reasonable carry options.

>>31444019
Many companies make clones of the 1873
I'm not sure if colt made one chambered in .44-40

>>31444309
But that muzzle velocity though.

Gotta go fast.

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>>31433007
Love my S&W model 10.

Dan Wessons are excellent revolvers

Taurus revolvers are the only firearms of Taurus I trust.

Ruger single actions are sex

I bartend at a high class bar, but we get a couple weirdos. I already have my CCW, had a CZ75-B, sold it due to needing money after a bad motorcycle accident... I need something I can wear under slacks and a (usually) untucked dress shirt. I'm thinking .38. Ideas?

>>31445644
Just keep a cheap shotgun behind the bar.

>>31445644
What's your budget?

>>31445702
Unfortunately, I'm not the owner. Just a young guy that knows his drinks and how to shoot.
>>31445743
I'm thinking $500-$600 range, about what my CZ75 was. The P-01 was an idea, but I like revolvers a lot more than mag-fed. Not to say I didn't like the CZ75, I miss that gun to death, but it wasn't conducive to CCW.

>>31442999
Shit. Trips

>>31439544
>I'll never buy another S&W revolver made within the last 2 decades
S&W quality control was shit in the 70s and 80s too.

>>31439823
There's a 6" on sale for 1100 near here. That as good a price I'll get in person or should I say fuck that?

>>31433007
Taurus, all the quality of S&W at half the price.

>>31434700
Gorgeous

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>>31433153
Why is it such a big deal? Its not like you have to use it. Who fucking cares it works exactly the same!

Looking for a Big Bore.

Calibers I'm thinking of getting:
.44 Remington Magnum
.454 Casull
.460 Smith & Wesson
.480 Ruger
.500 Smith & Wesson

>>31447207
for what? range toy? fishing purse? handgun hunting?

>>31447276
Range Toy/Hunting/Home Defense and if I had any practical way to EDC it I would.

Looking to get my first wheel gun. Shot a S&W 686 at the range. How good is it just for carrying around as a snake gun when hunting?

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>>31433258
Ordered mine specifically without.

>>31447284
the smart choice would be .44, but if you dont mind the cost of ammo (or reload) the 454 is alot of fun. also you can shoot 45 long colt.
>>31447310
you cant go wrong with a 686 with the 4" barrel.

>>31447339
I'm really interested in muzzle velocities, of which .460 seems to be the king.

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I like my Colt brand Colt.

Tyler grip, here I come!

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Not even baiting, serious question.
Are pythons worth the price tag that they come with? I've held one before but never had the luxury of shooting one, so I have no idea how it compares to more common revolvers like gp100 and sw686.

>>31442867
>I could hear your weak wrists in your typing.
Why do I get the feeling the revolvers should only be used with mag loads talking about weak wrists are the ones that end up carrying 9mm glocks because 40 and up is too snappy

>>31447401
the python has a better stock trigger than both, but for the python pricetag you can buy a gp100, a 686 and trigger jobs for both

>>31433188
I thought it was a Mexican music forum?

>>31441799
My wife has one. Awesome gun, fits my manlet hands just fine and handles .357 pretty gud

>>31433188
> Why worry about 9/11 that was 15 years ago.

>>31447499
Because your a retarded little bitch maybe? Here's your (you)

>>31433153

>Fucking Hughes amendment was passed like 30 years ago ppl, get over it

>Fucking NFA was passed like 80yrs ago, god get over it

Just because a dipshit event happened in the past doesn't mean it is forgiven years later. S&W fucked up, threw their clients under the bus and years later when there is no more relevance the continue to cuck their customers.

I'm just glad that it's on the way out.

>>31433046
Rugers are mostly indestructible, father has a speed 6 he got when he was a police officer. He used it for several years on duty, until there was a timing issue with the cylinder and the frame, he sent it in, they fixed it, and reblued the gun. When they sent it back it was lost in the mail, then they sent him a new gun. He used that for about a month or two until his gun turned up and he handed the new one over to the dept. The gun when returned has been bomb proof ever since.

>Colt python
That sun has set long ago annon. Colt does not have the tooling or the craftsmanship in workers to make a gun like that ever again

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>>31447401
>Are pythons worth the price tag that they come with?
Unless you're a collector, not at all.

They look glossy and the trigger is kind of nice, but the lockwork is flimsy and you're paying a fucking lot for what you're actually getting.

>>31447557
This, a nice Ruger or Smith & Wesson with a worked over trigger will serve you a lot better for a lot less in the long run.

Even a Colt Trooper with a worked trigger will be a much better working gun (they're very similar, I've always toyed with the idea of mating a Python barrel to a Trooper frame, but don't know how hard that is to do)

>>31447362
Well the .460 can fire .454 and .45

Is it possible to trick spin a double action revolver?
Or is a single action safer in that regard?

>>31447401
No, but they sure are sweet guns - well-designed, well-made, a joy to shoot and drop-dead gorgeous. They're not Korth-tier, but they're about as good as US non-custom revolvers get.

>>31433007
Why are revolvers better than normal handguns?

>>31448022
>well-designed
Eeeeh...

>well-made
Absolutely.

>>31448035
Fuck off.

>>31448035
In the case of .357, they are versatile firearms that can accept (depending on the .357 revolver in question) up to 3 separate calibers (.357, .38, and 9mm if you have the proper cylinder or moon clips). They also can fire under powered rounds that may not cycle reliably (or at all) in a semi-automatic weapon.

>>31444301
My take on them is if your going with a 2 to 5 inch barrel 454 and 460 have very little difference. With a 5 to 12 inch barrel .460 S&W magnum can generate around 15% more punch depending on the loads.

They are great with long barrels if your going to mount a scope and are an experienced handgun hunter.

The shorter ones make decent bear guns. I've heard the 2 inch super Redhawk alaskan .454 delivers about the same energy as a 4 inch .44 mag.

>>31448259
Hmmm...

What is the longest barrel that you would get if you wanted to carry the gun 'cause some of them like the 12" S&W460 seems like something I'd only ever use for hunting.

>>31448956
I personally am looking at getting the ruger super redhawk toklat in .454. It has a 5 inch barrel. I like the idea of a mid length .460 but I live near the toklat so that's what sold it for me.

I know people that carry 7.5" revolvers in the woods. Honestly I'd never go more than that unless I was mounting a scope and wrist brace for hunting. The .460 is pretty much the optimal handgun hunting caliber .500 and 45/70 revolvers are a meme. .454 and .44 are ideal bear stoppers. 10mm is for black bears and bitches.

Idk if he will show up in this thread but there's an anon with like 4 .460s of various lengths that could probably tell you more.

>>31449187
Thanks a ton.

I'm a first-time wheelgun buyer so I feel like since I already have my "practical" 9mm 92FS I just need to have something big and outstanding. A ridiculous show of force while at the same time still seeing some use outside of just desert plinking.

Call me crazy, it's the feeling in my gut I just must satisfy.

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Well I like it.

>>31449597
Be careful. Without proper practice it's very easy to gain a flinch from jumping from the low recoil smoothness of the 92 to the quarter sticks of dynamite you'll be setting off in your hand.

Also if you take your handgun shooting seriously, like if you compete or anything. Shooting a gun like that regularly can be detrimental to your semi auto gains.

>>31449765
Are you speaking to wrist pain building up or a technique gotten from shooting big guns going back to a semi-auto?

>>31449784
Muscle memory plays a huge part when your going against a timer. Shooting multiple types of handguns can degrade your ability with your carry/competition peice. Shooting wildly different ones even more so.

Developing a flinch happens when inexperienced shooters shoot handcannons. Unless you've practiced your trigger and gun controll alot, the fireball, shockwave and recoil makes you flinch subconsciously any time your not focusing completely on the trigger pull.

>>31449784
Also wrist pain could be a factor. You won't want to practice as much or as hard if your hurting. And if your die hard the money and time spent on that gun is money and time you could have spent getting better with something else.

>>31449906
Well I'm not a competition shooter, but I do like to challenge myself every time I go to the range.

I think I'd definitely like to try out some guns, but my practical 92FS doesn't give me the same Dirty Harry feeling. I wanna feel like I could plink a man at 100 meters and he'd fall down.

>>31433079
im about to be shit on for this but taurus does too

>>31447764
>implying I was the anon in that conversation to start with

Thanks for the (You) noguns

>>31449951
I completely understand the lust for recoil and shockwaves. Just letting you know a potential side effect of that addiction.

If you like challenge get a shot timer or even the shot timer app and try to get consistent times and groups then use that to push yourself faster tighter and farther.

>>31450126
To be fair it's not just the recoil that makes me like it. It's the sexiness of the revolver frame itself, the speed of the bullet that flies, it's ability to take a man (or a coyote) down, and the range at which I can hit that man/coyote.

Years of anime and movies that fellate the revolver make it hard to not want to be the object of that fellatio.

>>31450075
> implying I was the guy you were responding to originally.

The guy in the original conversation was just misinformed and couldn't be bothered to do any research.
>>31447499
Is literally a "bitch" about magnum fags. Worded as if you had the intellect of a retard. You don't have to be the same guy who thought .38 +p was the same as a .357 snub to be a retarded little bitch.

I'm pretty convinced your Mr. Butthurt McGlasswrists. You failed to realize you were wrong before opening your mouth and are attempting to cover it by being a immature memester.

> see guise I was really just shit posting the whole time!

>>31450161
I'd go with a .357 if I were you. It's cheaper, easier to work with, alot less punishing and funner to shoot than a big bore magnum. In my experience, .357 is easier to shoot longer ranges with as well. It's flatter shooting with less elevation variation between different loads. It'll also take care of most bears.

I have a fair amount of experience with revolvers and I live in grizzly central which is why personally I'm going with .454

>>31450329
Well honestly, I live in Arizona so the worst wildlife that might attack me is a coyote, unless I live in Flagstaff or something.

I have no intention of going to Grizzly country either. FUCK snow tires. I'll take a super-hot summer with a hassle-free winter any day.

>>31450212
>u a bitch i dindu nothin u bitch u wrist is bitch wrist u weak sissy bitch u dumb muh 357 mag go fastur than 38 u dumb bitch u dumb bitch mr butt hurt just u pretending u shit post huuur

>>31433007
Smith & Wesson

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>>31433007

Manurhin, Korth, and Colt [Pythons]

Hands down.

>all these americunts suggesting Rugers and S&W

>>31450329
I've been doing some internet research, and I actually do believe you. .357 generally goes faster than .44 and you need more powder behind a cartridge that big (a la .454 or .460) to get those muzzle velocities.

Maybe I'll be really bad and get a Taurus Model 608 because it's cheaper than a 627 and I'm a cheap bastard.

I just hope it doesn't blow up in my face.

s-should i buy an lcr or an sr9c as my first gun

>>31450849
If you're that set on owning something made by Ruger, get the LCR. It's a nifty little revolver.

There are so many better compact 9mm semi automatics than the SR9C, it shouldn't even be an option.

>>31450880
What ones do you recommend? I've been researching as many as I could and was leaning on a walther. I'm trying to keep it under 500, if possible

Revolvers seem great, but I keep reading horror stories of how their failings render the gun completely useless and require a return to the manufacturer.

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Sp100 4inch barrel(Too lazy to take a pic)

had it for 6 months, recoil is smooth, comfortable to hold and shoot, never had a problem with the action. Only other revolver I liked more was the S&W 500 but it kept jamming on the cycle. Sold it after a month

>>31441401
Korth 9mms?

>>31433153
Because it can legitimately lock a gun up when you need it the most. Those pieces of shit malfunction and leave an ugly hole on your gun to boot.

>>31434815
You looking for a 1911 DW? I know where to find one.

>>31450361
Sounds like you could make more use of a 45 LC revolver. Get basic ammo for coyotes and ratshot for snakes, lizards, other undesirables of a small nature.

>>31452794
You can get ratshot in .38 special but .45 LC lends itself to larger shot loads. Plus you'll get that "big hunk of revolving metal going boom" feeling when you shoot hot loads.

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>>31450661
Ruger revolvers are top notch, faggot.

>>31451605
>Those pieces of shit malfunction
Incredibly rarely

>>31450661
>spews lifesizepotato's opinions on marraceshian motorboat forum

>>31435533
I know that Chimp. That was a fun little Japanese show.

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>>31450970
>their failings render the gun completely useless and require a return to the manufacturer.
whoa
only a catastrophic failure will cause this circumstance and, of course, can happen with any handgun if defects in manufacturing and/or improperly loaded ammo are present

a quality revolver is a safe & reliable gun, and they are not jam-proof. issues can happen
but, like auto-loaders, almost any issue (short of catastrophic failure) can be remedied by the user

>been shooting s&w & ruger since i was like 14

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>>31433007
>super redhawk
literally looks like a tank

been carrying pic for 4 years now
nothing but reliable
i dislike the heavy triggers in rugers double-actions
trigger job advised

>just ordered 357 blackhawk convertible blued 6.5" gonna be goooooood

>>31450329
The trend of larger and larger calibers for "bear defense" is a maymay that needs to die. Three or four rounds of cast .44 (or hell, even .357) is going to be way more effective than some wrist-breaking fad that will recoil wildly and prevent effective follow-up shots.

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>>31449666
i do too
i dig the black-finish models

>>31456532
>357 or 44 is just fine!!! just magdump!!?
357 and 44 will "probably" work just fine in a pinch.
454, 460 and 500 exist to reliably kill large game. Without the panic infused magdump.

>>31456532
I've seen people say that anything below .454 Casull is insufficient for Deer.

>>31439796
If you ever get to hold it in your hand you'll see that it is smaller and thinner than a GP100. It's very concealable and light weight compared to a redhawk or GP100.

While S&W has a variety of frame sizes ranging from Small, Medium, Large and etc. Ruger double action frames come in Small, Large and Fuck Huge.

Basically a snub nose GP101 is in competition with a S&W snub nose conceal revolvers with the option of 22.lr and having longer barrel options from 2 inch, 3 inch and 4 inch.

I conceal Carry a GP101 with 4.2 inch barrel because .38 and .357 really benifit from extra barrel length and really what really sticks out in conceal guns in the handle/grip.

As for 5 shot snub nose revolvers, well, they were THE conceal/back up weapon for cops, store owners and civilians.

The reason why .38 special has killed more people than any other pistol caliber even till now in 2016 is because the 5 shot snub nose revolver in .38 spl was the dominant handgun of the last century if a person only ever owned one gun for self defense it was that.

Given more time 9mm willcompete more with .38spl now that sub compact single stack 9mm pocket guns exist and most molitary and police guns are 9mm and as such, civilians eill mimic and have glock 19 or similar sized pistols as the one and only srlf defense gun but we won't see the upset until at least the middle of this centurty by 2055.

>>31456532
Hot Buffalo Bore 44 is 1500ft-lbs
Hot Buffalo Bore 454 is 2000ft-lbs
Hot Buffalo bore 460 is 2800ft-lbs
Do i need to tell you the difference between 223 and 308? Because that is literally the difference between 44 and 460.

>>31433153
If they made guns without the Hillary hole that were on par pricewise with Ruger then maybe I would consider them but the holes are still there and the guns cost 30% more so Ruger it is.

I refuse to buy guns from them on principle and in practice I won't use that thing so I don't want it.

>>31456768
I would consider.454 too much for deer. That caliber has brought down wildebeest to elephant.

You just have to get within 100yd for most lesser loads and be rather precise with a pistol. Two things the average lazy slop doesn't try to do anymore

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>>31456768
those people dont know bout dem cast .44 mag loads

>>31447848
Colt pisses me off, they got fat off of military contracts and don't make good shit anymore

(yes I'm salty about them stopping python production)

>>31456910
100yd isn't even that big of a requirement and I'd honestly like to see the guy sniping deer at 200yd with .460S&W.

.357 should be enough for deer and anything below assuming you know what you're doing. .44 Mag generally goes slower anyways unless it's out of a long-gun.

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>>31439796
>what is the point of a 5-round .357?
>pic muh carry gun for 4 years
now that ive been ccing this for years, my opinions have def changed regarding .357mag wheelguns
within the range of about 30oz, one can arm himself with any number of auto-loaders with greater capacity and (imo) ease of shooting

so, to me, the ideal MAGNUM wheelguns for carry are:
-full-size frames (lots of grip real-state and weight to counter recoil)
-4"-6" barrel (velocity's sake)
-6-8 shot capacity

obviously these are big, heavy, & harder to cc
but from now on, any .357 i buy for carry will be a big chunk of steel

>>31439866
trollin

I want a revolver so bad but I am a NEET poorfag.

>>31457426
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Full-size frame .357. Full-size N-frames are also what allows you get those hotter "I am going to kill this deer dead" hunting loads.

I feel like .44 loses too much velocity without getting a real big barrel, and there's nothing that I could hunt near me that a .454 or a .460 are going to do me any good for. And without self-defense statistics I don't know if they'd be any good for carry in case I had to whip it out.

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>>31456915
that gun is seriously, like, everything id like in a carry revolver

>>31457447
Get a job at a sandwich shop...get 200 bucks stashed away every month...in four months....buy revolver.

Plan for success, even the little things in life.

>>31456902
This.

Should I get a S&W Model 627 V-Comp or a Taurus Model 608?

They're both .357 Magnum 8-round cylinders.

>>31457914
S&W TRR8.

>>31457426
I respect your experience and opinion

>>31457455
You have the right Idea.

For hunting yes, you should go fir large farme for ease and comfort of use with sufficient barrel length. I honestly feel 4" barrels and Iron sights are sufficient for hunting up close and longer barrels are more for distance shooting that should be paired with glass

But I still think my GP101 in 4.2" is a decent CC and SHTF field gun until I csn get to bigger guns or guns with higher capacity.

The reason for the 4 inch barrel is for ease of shooting with a better/longer sight radius between the front and rear sights versus with the snub nose 2.5 aiming down the rear notch to the front sight.

Also recpil and noise impulse is different with the longer barrel...you'll still hurt your ears if not wearing ear pro, but I do notice a difference in the noise between the two barrel lengths.

Also...I use .38SPL.+P in the cylinder and my two speed loaders I carry with me are .357 mag one being hollowpoints and the other being extreme penetrators...just in case.

I live in a semi rural hilly area that leads into busy city so I like having a variety of ammo on me.

>>31457455
>I feel like .44 loses too much velocity without getting a real big barrel
It's amazing out of a carbine. I honestly can't see myself using a .44 revolver as a carry gun in any size.

>>31457717

Not working for capitalist pigs to exploit me.

>>31458418
And this is why lefties need disarmament before they can attempt a communist uprising. Their peons will all get fucking shot otherwise.

>>31458430

Marx said that if you give up your weapons you're an idiot and deserve the abuse.

>>31458418
So to get a weapon, you must work for the capitalist fir a few months, so that you can use that money to kill capitalist pug later, virtually by his own money since you contributed and benifited by the capitalist system to get your tools to break the shackles of opression>>31458444

>>31458481

I have weapons, just not a revolver.

What would be the most triggering wheelgun out there? I'm thinking either Colt SAA because muh injuns or a Webley/Enfield because muh colonialism. Maybe with a Detective Special as a representative of a cheap, concealable, easily available handgun that's nearly immune to de-facto bans.

>>31458649
You're giving Amerifat libtards far too much history credit. You neee a generic large frame revolver with a 6+" barrel. Doesn't matter brand or caliber, it will be the "Dirty Harry"

>>31458418
Tough shit, in capitalist society you work to get ahead.

>>31459129

For now, capitalist pig.

looking at a model 10-8 on armslist, 450$ wondering if K can tell me what to look out for.
Is the rifling destined to be shot-out? the bluing is almost perfect.

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>>31457153
Oh yeah, colt is shit. They were run by a nofuns fag who actually helped frankenstein with the AWB.

The thinking was that they play fudd, throw us all under the bus, and by doing so they were guaranteed govt contracts for the M16s, for which they suck govt dick for a decade.

This shit worked until the sunset, which even though they knew it was happening the wiz kids at colt still refused to go full into the AR market,instead they were still banking on the govt contracts, problem was that when FN fucked their shit and stole the contract, they were left in limbo and attempted to make civie ARs... problem was that the market was beyond saturated and no one gave a shit about their shit. and they were going belly up. The head fudd was shit canned and was replaced with a new guy

They had the great idea on rereleasing cool guns that they made in the past (BAR, M1903, nam ARs) but since their workers are I.O. Inc tier and can't make anything but a 1911 or an M4, they fucked the M1903 and the mustang, and outsourced the BAR to Ohio Ordnance (who makes a bitchen BAR and was a good idea) but both were crazy limited releases and expensive as fuck, so not really helping the situation much.

Bottom line they are paying big time for fucking us over

>MFW I love snatching up old police surplus AWB "restricted" stamped ARs for shits and gigs... and as a big fuck you to frankenstein.

>>31459188
I'll fight you every step of the way, pinko, America will never be like China, Ukraine or Cambodia.

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>>31459189
bump related pic

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>>31459189
There are so goddamn many Model 10 revolvers in the world, many which were mostly carried, seldom shot (typical of police guns, often only showing holster wear), or just left in a drawer and rarely taken to the range, your chances of finding one with an acceptable or even great bore is quite good.

There are also many variants of it, pic related is the Model 64, basically the same thing, except with a stainless finish, plastic/rubber grips, and a thicker barrel (this kind of thick barrel would become very common on American police .38s)

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>>31459233
>snatching up old police surplus AWB "restricted" stamped ARs for shits and gigs.
based

pic unrelated
...been eyeing these for years
once my blackhawk ships i might put this
up as a next-purchase
>would become a must-have if ruger made a blued model

>>31460377
You could get a gunsmith to blue it for you.

>>31460543
hmmm..
found a few bluing products for stainless on brownells
i didnt even know bluing stainless was a thing

/k/ approved top break?

>>31460788
Surplus Webley.

If only they made a Rhino without that seam or those fucking rails.

>>31460788
Webley or Enfield. .455 (or .45 ACP with moon clips) is okay but expensive, the other big-bore chamberings are impossible to find; however, in .380/200 (aka .38 S&W; Buffalo Bore also makes a cast bullet defense load that's about the equivalent of a .38 Special) they're an absolute joy to shoot for cheap in either DA or SA and take K-frame speed loaders but the Enfield No. 2 Mk. 1* and 1** have bobbed hammers and are thus DAO. Also be aware that many cheaply-imported Enfields were chopped down to ~2" by importers so they could compete with other snub-nose revolvers. These look kind of cool but have virtually no historical value and even worse ballistics than your average revolver chambered in .38 Short & Weak.

Other top breaks tend to be somewhere between mediocre and SNS, and are often available only in esoteric mousegun chamberings that haven't seen commercial production since Eisenhower was in office. Except for Schofield replicas, of course, but if you wanted to spend ~$1000 on a top-break revolver you'd know about those already.

>>31433143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqnOLYGs1G0

you can see the cuck lock hole.

=/ bummer because I've wanted the R8 for a long while. Didn't realize it was. I would probably still get it, remove it if it were a problem.

>>31433007
Korth
Janz-Präzisionstechnik

>>31435799

>Colt Python puts on that freshman 15

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>>31437176

They still need to, though

>>31447401

as a collection piece, significant firearm, yes.

as a shooter, no.

>>31433007
Ruger and pre-Hillary hole Smith and Wesson.

>>31457914
>Should I get a S&W Model 627 V-Comp or a Taurus Model 608?
I've got that S&W. By far my favorite .357 to shoot. The. 44 is a little short in the vcomp so I got a stealth hunter instead.

>>31460788
>/k/ approved top break?

H&R .38 special

>>31462380
vid dude needs to clip fingernails asap

>>31457934
I honestly can't tell the difference between some of these models. What makes the 327 different from the 627 different from the R8 different from the TRR8?

What's the best revolver & cartridge for self-defense and EDC?

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>>31433508
>not being proud as fuck of your objectively improved gun
>not getting a gunsmith to change the L to LOL

Is this a picture of you? Because you clearly hate America

>>31463957
I'm proud of my objectively better 686-1