Amazons: Was it a complete lie?

>>30735641
Why in the world would you think that /k/ was an appropriate place to ask this question?

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>>30735677
/k/ has many warfare enthusiasts. So it is the prime place to ask, my new to 4chan friend.

Enjoy your first summer on 4chan and be sure to provide good content.

>>30735641
There were no Amazons as such, the woman warrior society etc but kings have used various female honor guards as consorts and as watchmen for inner chambers

So its not entirely baseless, its just wildly exaggerated

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>>30735712
>amazon muscle girl edit of that pic

WEW
LAD

>>30735641
UNNNFFFFF
I want to fuck in between her six pack and cum on her abs.

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>>30736355
I mean yeah, obviously

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well other than 300, spartans get BTFO by Athens. so its probably not a complete lie.

>>30736426

>spartans get BTFO by Athens

Sparta conquered Athens, who never fully recovered, and Sparta was the only part of Greece to not get conquered by Macedon

Exaggerated Greek masturbation fantasy. He was writing the equivalent of Gulliver's Travels and sent Heracles to a land full of dominant women.

>>30735641
Amazons were based on Scythian female warriors.

>>30735641
>Were Amazon warriors based on a complete lie
Yes, they were literally based on mythology and a romanticised idea of a foreign culture.

The warriors of every single culture on Earth have always been male, since humans anywhere aren't dumb enough to send their baby machines to die.

>>30735641
I think the only warrior class had one breast cut off, but then again it could have a pottery item used in medical type facility of ancient Greece? Hinting the they had advance knowledge cancer remedies such as breast cancer so its why they hand a female archer with a breast cut off to make it easier to pull the string of the bow and accurately place her shot

I like amazonian women, and I thought amazonian women were just a fantasy (despite knowing very tall girls exist) until I saw a girl that was easily 6'6" tower over me (5'11").

>>30738176
No you are into man

>>30738187
Why would liking tall women mean I'm into men?

>>30738160
>I think the only warrior class had one breast cut off
Only in Greek mythology. Probably some contemporary schizo women trying to emulate mythology as well, but there are no known accounts describing such a woman.

Also, female archers is yet another myth. Women are quite a bit weaker than men and as a result drawing a bow strong enough to kill anything bigger than a hare is extremely difficult for them. At least with bows of the time, with modern composite bows it wouldn't be a problem.

On another note, females being portrayed as rangers with longbows and shit makes me go full REEEEEEEEEEEEEE every damn time. IF you want to have female ranged classes in your game give them a fucking crossbow or sling or something.

>>30738138
Vikings
and this >>30735914

>>30738193
>On another note, females being portrayed as rangers with longbows and shit makes me go full REEEEEEEEEEEEEE every damn time. IF you want to have female ranged classes in your game give them a fucking crossbow or sling or something.

You sound like the life of the party. Still I can see how that could be annoying as hell especially if your group has a that guy.

>>30738193
Well ook

>>30738247
What kind of an autist would talk about their personal opinion every opportunity they get?
I keep that shit to myself, doesn't mean it doesn't grind my gears.

Didn't Amazons cut off their right breast to help with using a bow?

I vaguely remember this somewhere.

>>30738269
Its one fucking line, had said pot been evidenced

>>30738247
I like parties all around, my favorite is the one where i can hide and noone know im in the room smoking a blunt sucking on a fat tit watching television or playing FIFA but my girlfriend broke up with me she is dating a Brazilian

>>30738176
ayyy another one who likes tall chicks

>>30736404
source please

It's pointless to debate if such and such actually existed during hellenistic or classical antiquity because 99% of that knowledge has been lost due to the christian dark ages.

So who really knows? It's not impossible.

I'm not op, but I'm super into the idea of a babe who could almost hold her own wrestling me

>>30735641

Sythian female horse archers were some of the best of the nomadic tribes of Eastern Europe. They were extremely well disciplined and more than capable versus any of their immediate threats.

Their smaller frame and lighter bodies coupled with the fact that they did not wear swords or any armor heavier than cloth weighed their horses down less than their male counterparts, giving them a slight edge in stamina on the battlefield, which their tactics made excellent use of, as they would run around the steppes using delay and misdirection tactics to wear down their enemies both on horse and on foot, and then pick off their soldiers with composite bows at a distance.

This came at a cost though, the most dedicated and talented female soldiers (usually mercenaries hired out by western empires) had the breast closest to their drawing arm removed, as to reduce interference with their draw.

They were pretty badass. Outside of them though, I'm not really familiar with any large amounts of similar female military units.

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>>30738352
5 miles of leg

Tall chicks are women kino

>>30738402

If you don't know shit about history you really should keep your retarded opinions to yourself. The "Dark Ages" were referred to as such because people in the early modern age didn't know very much about the period, not because of any kind of religion-induced backwardness or regression. The Church was the best keeper of records during the period and the Clergy was typically the most educated class. Eat shit.

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i think there was probably some root incident in which a woman put up a fight or was part of an attack and it spun off from there
kind of like Juba
it becomes a bogyman story / cautionary tail / wonder story

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>>30735641
Amazons were very much an 'over the hill and far away' story (likewise the one-eyed Arimaspi, or the giant Hyperboreans of the frozen north).

It is possible that the tales were informed by early contacts with the Scythians, whose attitude towards women may have varied from the heavily male dominated culture of the Greeks, which would have made the story all the more titillating for contemporary audiences.

>>30738238

The "half of Viking warriors were women" is a thoroughly false piece of info from a sensationalized and highly speculative archaeological paper discussing grave goods from a specific area. But it keeps getting repeated as fact because it fits a pc narrative.

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>female berserkers not real
i don't want to live in this reality

>>30738352

Tall females > short females

I'm 5'9, if I could find an attractive one who is at least my height or more I'll be happy. Hard to find though

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>>30739790
>5' 9 into tall girls

is this you?

>>30739812

yep

>>30739631

Roughly 1/3 of all females buried anthropologists recognize as belonging to the "Scythian" culture group were found to be buried with weapons and tools, things not found in pretty much any other culture group at the time.

Females were also found to be buried in their own burial mounds with precious materials and high-grade bows, weapons, and armor, similar to Scythian "elites" or military/mercenary leaders.

This doesn't mean that women were all soldiers, like the myths, but do point to a culture where women were more integral to the military caste and frequented as artisans and smiths, it also shows that women could command enough respect to be recognized as military or tribal leaders, which is interesting in of itself.

What is also interesting is that the Greek myths regarding "Amazons" place the Amazons north of the Black Sea, the tales having originated from Greek colonists near the Cimmerian Bosporus, modern day Crimea. That just so happens to be within the range of the Scythian culture range.

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>>30735641
Here is my swolemate


best waifu

>>30738896
SABINA IS CUTE! CUUUTE!

>>30738425
>This came at a cost though, the most dedicated and talented female soldiers (usually mercenaries hired out by western empires) had the breast closest to their drawing arm removed, as to reduce interference with their draw.

Breasts really don't interfere though, unless they're massive.

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>>30735641
>that fuckin test-inject mutant
>amazonian Death-by-SNUSNU
no. pic related is what they would of looked like.

>>30738193
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are women who can shoot a legitimate longbow. And Amazonians are supposed to be gigantic warrior women, they should be able to use a bow. We aren't talking about 5 foot 2 and 115 lbs women.

>>30738411
Date a fat girl so you can roll into each other

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>>30740986
>tits
eh, probably more like this friendo

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>>30741036
>posting a nord in a one-piece
yea, there sure are a lot of lakes to swim through in the amazon rainforest.

>>30741036
>>30741063
Little to no differences in body types.

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>>30738425

>>30739988
She looks cute anon. Hope you two crossfit together

But is she into guns???

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>>30741063
i don't know what point you're trying to make... so, i refute with a sfw south american tribal girl in response

>>30735641
Women HAVE fought in wars, however for the most part they were the exception rather than the rule. There is plenty of speculation that the Scythians allowed females to fight. There are the Dahomey "Amazons", who supposedly fought very well. Other than that, a great many more isolated incidents of women doing it on their own, oftentimes in relation to sieges. In Japan this was a thing as well, also mainly due to sieges, however not just limited to that.

Overall, there's precedent for women warriors, but I wouldn't say the traditional Amazon society.

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>>30739812
>Tall girls will never pick you up by the ballsack and smash you into the pavement over and over like a crow trying to crack a walnut

Why even live?

>>30741071
I will say his point about being lighter being an advantage is somewhat true. If you look at cavalry engagements in the Napoleonic era, light cavalry could often come out on top of heavy cavalry, who were bigger men on bigger horses, sometimes wearing armor, because their mounts weren't as weighted down. Horsemanship was the deciding factor, really.

>>30740986
>would of

kill yourself

>>30741139
>Amazonian women thread
Dude they got me by the balls right now. Unf. I'm a big man. I need a tall woman in my life so I don't have to worry about crushing someone.

>>30741139
>>Tall girls will never pick you up
thought you were going this way >>>/gif/8966319 with that

>>30738425
There's no real evidence that women fought in battles in significant numbers or alongside their men (presumably unless circumstance demanded it). The idea is fanciful at best (Hippocrates) and delusional at worst (modern historians with an axe to grind).

The only records of it are either when it is a curious exception to the rule (Artemisia, the womenfolk of various tribes defeated by the Romans who resisted at the moment their nations faced annihilation etc.) or it's complete fantasy (Amazons).

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>have thing for girls taller than me
>be 6' 4"

A-at least I-I'm not a manlet.

>>30739839
It's a fourth actually, not a third. And a fourth of military burials not all burials. Females were expected to be able to defend the home while the men were out warring, and eventually they saw some use in war themselves, but they were not elite solders or in a class of their own.

Greek myths regarding them also literally never had a concrete location, they changed regularly. Scythian women no doubt played a part in inspiring these tales, but the Amazonians are legends of people who do not exist. And in Scythian military culture, the men were in charge of everything from war to the home life.

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>>30741229
have you tried going to the gym?

>>30741071
>tomato is a fruit, not a vegetable
>this is mount stupid worthy

Are you retarded? Tomatoes ARE fruit. I hope that you weren't the retard that make that picture, because you'd be King on the Mountain.

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>>30741251
>ywn lick the sweat off her abs

>>30735641
>a complete lie (like the Soviet sniper Lyudmila Pavlichenko)
wut? Are you another beliver that germans were stopped only by winter in 1941?

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>>30735641

>>30741071
Given vegetable is a construct and not a real thing it's right. Everything is either fruit or root with a drop of leaf

>>30738238
Viking women were only in settlements and shit attached to the main raid party. There's no real evidence that they took part in raids. There was such a thing as a sheildmaiden, but it was mostly home defense and 9 times out of 10 would get rekt anyway.

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>>30741251
>have you tried going to the gym?
Yes. It's called physical labor, and it's been doing a good job of hardening my body for me.

>>30739839
I can only imagine all the butthurt /k ancestors (propably athenians) :
>WTF women in the cavalry ?
>LOL women can't ride for shit
>they can't use bows either (because of their boobies)
>they're going to ruin their saddles since they bleed once per month
>etc...

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>>30741333
well, it didn't do anything for your reading comprehension

>>30739988
She really has a beautiful face and all but I really hope those are tits behind this shirt, not abs

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>>30741516
you mean pecks?
abs are gut muscles
pecks are chest muscles
if she had abs up there she'd be some kid of sexy caterpillar monster

>>30741263
>Queen ... of ... led her army
>Lady... 'defends' castle/city whilst husband is away
>etc.

There were women who were involved in battles throughout the ages, but their contribution is way over emphasised e.g. in that picture Lady Ann Cunningham led a troop of 'men and women', despite the women being referred to were simply a clutch of handmaidens who were said to have been trained with pistols, and Lady Cunningham herself being 60 years old at the time. If you scratch below the surface of many of those other tales you'll probably find more of the same.

Presumably this is done so that the actions of women in the past fit neatly with more modern notions of what it is to be a woman.

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>>30741555
>more modern notions of what it is to be a woman
>.3% of population thinks it's the opposite gender

thus at least .3% of all soldiers throughout human history have been women

>>30741232
>>30741246

I dunno man, this expert seems pretty convinced otherwise.

>inb4 title

yeah, it's fucking clickbait but the guy is right.

>>30741071

This is funny, because that's not what I said.

What I said was that extremely dedicated mercenaries would do it, which numbered probably in the dozens, at most.

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>>30736404

"Big Boss"

>

>>30741394

Even though anthropologists have come to the conclusion that Scythian women regularly served in combat and workshop roles, there's still a bunch of retards on here pretending to know better. Most of them are blatant denialists.

>hurr nah women didn't do that
>nah, women CAN'T do that
>women back then were better, they WOULDN'T do that
>Men were stronger, they wouldn't LET women do that
>historians are liberal shills and suppress the truth in order to brainwash the masses

The last one is particularly concerning.

>>30741246

So 1/4 of the Scythian military were females? That's pretty fucking good.

>>30741071
>"The American Civil War really had nothing to do with slavery".
No one claims that it had NOTHING to do with slavery, just that it wasn't all about slavery rather that the right of states to determine their own laws regarding slavery. Also thing about this one you faggot: Why would all the poor white farmers volunteer en masse in order for the some 1% of the population who owned slaves, to be able to keep them? Especially when those same black slaves were in direct competition with the poor whites and result in a lot of poor white farmers being far worse off. Oh right but and southern pride is all about racism and slavery, right?

>>30741231
WEW

>>30741735
>American Civil War
>volunteer en masse
>en masse
>volunteer

Post disregarded.

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>>30741121

>>30741733
They were essentially the home guard, a force that stayed at home and defended against agressor tribes. They weren't soldiers that would march in the armies.

This was important because Scythian men really enjoyed fucking off to do war.

>>30741735
>Especially when those same black slaves were in direct competition with the poor whites

was that the only job available in the south back then? farm hand? no wonder they lost

>>30741735

The quotes in the graphic are, ironically enough, a good representation of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which the chart is supposed to display.

>>30741733
Agreed.

I mean just look at all those Kurdish women fighting in the Middle East, it's not like they're just propaganda or a interesting story with no basis in reality.

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>>30741774
eh?

>>30741790

>home guard
>nomads
>nomads have a home guard

I'm just busting your balls, you're kinda right.

They fought in defensive wars, or wars fought close to their tribal range. Some of them, although not many, were hired out as mercenaries by other nations.

They fought a lot, as there were not many Scythians, and Scythians fought a lot of wars.

The only wars women didn't serve an integral role in were wars fought over political or tribal insults and wars fought by mercenaries in far away lands. Politics were a man's game. Still, 1/3 of women were found to be in the military or labor workforce, that's insane, even by today's levels. Tribal nomads that like to kill a lot of people need as many bodies as possible, and like I said before, the lighter, therefore more maneuverable female cavalry, possessed a slight edge in defensive combat over heavily armed and armored male counterparts.

Also, the Scythian bow was a smaller, composite bow, compared to many other cultures of the same era, and didn't require the same strength that a Western European bow would require.

>>30741818

Apples and oranges, buddy.

Once we can say that 1/3 of Kurdish women are in the war effort, then you can talk to me.

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>>30738193
>IF you want to have female ranged classes in your game give them a fucking crossbow
Damn straight.

>>30739756
god, please tell me that's menstrual blood

>>30741748

You are now aware that only 2% of Union troops were conscripts, and the CSA didn't institute a draft until 1862.

>>30741796

I think you're being a big memer, but pretty much. The south had few large cities, and their only real industry was large-scale agriculture.

>>30741947
>1/3 of women in military or workforce
You seem to be basing that on the assumption that being buried with weapons and/or tools is evidence for being engaged in those lines of work.

In a society where weapons are highly symbolic, particularly of social standing, I think it would be hasty to jump to conclusions as to why women were buried with weapons (which could be as little as a dagger or knife in any case).

I'm not saying that it didn't happen, but 1/3 of women engaging in warfare is not a recipe for a successful society.

>>30741947
It was a fourth, not a third in the military.

And ya. That was their point. though the idea that they were lighter and more maneuverable makes no sense. You can put any lightly armored archer on a horse there will be no actual or noticeable difference in mobility given how it's not actually a huge difference, especially to a horse. Though it's a good role for women because some of the men's roles weren't roles they could fill.

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>>30741818
Female soldiers have always been valuable propaganda tools

https://warisboring.com/the-kurds-wont-let-their-women-soldiers-anywhere-near-the-front-line-76abb2603eb9?gi=300e0a734add#.brvrqhhxx

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>>30742089
and my wiener thanks them

>>30738914
Yea the clergy was the most educated, so they could all lie to the peasants and keep them under the thumb of the pope, God, and the King.

>>30742064

Or, you know, the combat-related scarring. That's kinda important and also pretty telling.

>>30742074

anthropologists disagree.

Also
>lighter and more maneuverable makes no sense

horses get tired just like people, as load increases, stamina decreases, just like people. You also aren't supposed to put more than about 20% of a horse's body weight on as tack and rider, so let's say the average Scythian horse (which was smaller than our current horses, due to millennia of selective breeding) can carry 200lbs safely.

If you manage to cut back 60-80lbs due to a smaller rider and them having nothing but a bow and quiver (some rode naked) or wearing light dress, compared to a fit, military-age male with a bow, arrows, a sword, and heavy leather/bronze armor, it increases their stamina.

Have.. have you ever ridden a horse?

>>30741733
>1/4 of the Scythian military were females
I think that's a wrong conclusion to make my friend based on the number of burials
Because the questions of "how many dead soldiers were actually buried?" And "what were th chances that a dead soldier would recieve proper burial if he died in the field?" Are yet to be answered

>>30742183

Listen, the facts are that 1/3 of unearthed Scythian dead women were buried with tools and weapons, many of them with battle-scarring, just like the men.

Women served a massive part in the defense and military of Scythian tribes, stop trying to argue that somehow this means nothing.

>>30741735
>just that it wasn't all about slavery rather that the right of states to determine their own laws regarding slavery.

This isn't even fucking right. There are two questions:

Why did the South secede?

Why didn't the north let them?

The first answer is that it was fear for preserving the southern economy and way of life, including and prominently featuring the institution of slavery, in the face of growing political power in the western and northern US.

The answer to the second question is the crux of the issue, as it is why the war happened. The answer is Lincoln having been a student and follower of Henry Clay. He believed in one, strong union, and that violence was the appropriate means of preserving it.

>>30742179
Anthropologists disagrees with their own fucking numbers they put out? It's a fourth.

>About 20% of Scythian-Sarmatian 'warrior graves' on the lower Don and lower Volga contained women dressed for battle similar to how men dress, a phenomenon that probably inspired the Greek tales about the Amazons."
>Up to 25% of military burials were of armed Sarmatian women usually including bows.[98] Russian archaeologist Vera Kovalevskaya points out that when Scythian men were away fighting or hunting, nomadic women would have to be able to defend themselves, their animals and pasture-grounds competently.

Where the fuck are you getting a third from?

And yes. I literally am shitposting from the farm I live in. I ride and work with horses regularly. Two similarly kitted out people of different sexes will not make a huge difference on the horse. Especially considering combat loads were not much at all back then. And the idea that it's a sixty to eighty pound difference is laughable considering men weigh only 15% more on average. So you must be talking about some fat fucking scythians. Fucking neck yourself mate and stop acting like an authority.

>>30741016
>I'm pretty sure they exist
There is a handful of men who can shoot 110lb+ longbows In the entire world. There are no women

Archery is a skill, just being strong isn't enough.

>>30742318

>...DNA testing and other bioarchaeological scientific analysis found that about one-third of all Scythian women are buried with weapons and have war injuries...

also

> will not make a huge difference

Probably why I said slight, which matters when you're talking about delay and misdirection tactics spanning miles, possibly.

>stop acting like an authority

But my base argument is right, so no.

Scythian women contributed pretty massively to the war efforts of their tribes.

Regardless of numbers, whether it is a fourth or a third, you can't simply deny the massive impact that an entire quarter or third of a fighting force will have. It's absolutely ludicrous to just downplay that. You're on the same level as the Vatniks claiming the Western Front didn't matter.

I mean, you can disagree, but that's silly.

Anyway, I'm pretty much done, we aren't going to convince each other of anything, and that's fine, but Scythian women did have a massive impact in ancient conflict.

>>30742443
>Scythian women contributed pretty massively
There's no evidence for a massive direct contribution to combat by Scythian women.

We know that women were buried with a variety of weapons, ranging from a knife up to veritable armouries.

But so were women in Ancient Egypt, but there is no evidence to suggest that these women's major occupation was military, rather they were aristocrats who were entitled to burials accompanied by the trappings of their social status i.e. weapons.

Also mentioned were battle scarred female warriors, but this phenomena seems restricted to one site with three skeletons in it, hardly indicative of a large body of fighting women.

Other than funerary goods, there seems to be no documentary or pictorial evidence that the Scythians were frequently accompanied by women in to battle, and there was ample opportunity for this to be recorded if it was the case.

The whole thing seems like grasping at straws.

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>>30741121

>mfw no qt3.14 native waifu to repopulate our tribes

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>>30741251
Hnnnnnngg!
Sweet weeping Jesus! Perfection.

>>30741641
>thus at least .3% of all soldiers throughout human history have been women
Hahaha. No.

>>30735641
Amazon warriors are bullcrap. Doesnt mean women cant be hot and pretty badass. Post more warrior women and weightlifter chicks people. Quit bitching about propaganda and shit.

>>30742443
They still represent less than a fourth of all military burials. The difference in horse rider weight when that slight would not in any way effect the horse's capacity for being a war mount either positively or negatively. And there is literally no evidence they played a major role at all.

You're so far up your own ass you could be used as a wheel.

>>30735641

>tfw no Amazonian muscle woman to dominate me in bed

Fugg.

>>30738352

My current fuckbuddy is 6'1" (Same height as me). She's a little chubby but loves anal and can deepthroat me so it's all good.

>>30742979
Does anyone know who the woman in this pic is? And the story on the facial scar?

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>>30743032
1. adopt girl
2. groom her into fitness
3. ???
4. profit

>>30743086
Lt. Gyllenhaal, Maggie
her husband was a drinker, and a fiend

>>30738138
not true per say vikings mongols recently the kurds etc lot's of examples of women fighting along men. it's not impossible especially with modern firearms.

peope going on about hurr durr women are weak and they don't realize that an 8yo child soldier is about as dangerous as any male combatant sans speshul operator types.

and every weakness of females as soldiers can be worked around if you tweak logistics and tactics a bit. if all you give a general women only he will make it work. he will curse you to death tho but he will make it work.

>>30743048
>little chubby
This means you are former enlisted and your chick is 400lbs. Good job.

>>30743182
Women didn't fight as vikings, the shield maidens were myths

>>30738160
>>30738193
Yes the Sythians of Ukraine, archaeological digs show women buried with weapons (something only done for warriors at the time), unfortunately since they where nomadic illiterates most of our knowledge on them outside of secondhand accounts is limited.

>>30742575

This, also, they didn't find much armour, swords, shields, horsemanship artifacts, helmets or some of the other things that were found in the graves of male warriors

>>30743182
>8yo child soldier is about as dangerous as any male combatant sans speshul operator types
You've got to be kidding.

An 8 yo old child lacks all sorts of abilities, cognitive and physical that renders him inferior in combat to a grown man.

>every weakness of females as soldiers can be worked around if you tweak logistics and tactics
You'd have to do a little more that 'tweak', just look at the rate of injuries that women sustain in the armed forces i.e. musculoskeletal injuries.

>>30741748
My county put more men in the war than we had registered voters, and that was before the 1862 draft, eat a dick

>>30742979
Is it wrong to be sexually attracted to this woman?

>>30743561
I've got a thing for girls with visible injuries, they seem more approachable

>>30743182
>per se
>Vikings
Myth
>Mongols
Wut?
>Kurds
PR stunts.

>child soldiers are just as effective as grown men
Yeah, that 8 year old can run as far, and carry as much ammo as an adult soldier. That's not even getting into the skills a soldier needs like land navigation.

>>30735641
Some societies made their women fight too. I don't think there were any that were matriarchal though. Male humans were always clearly stronger and dominant historically up until recent times due to chemical poisoning and Jewish tricks.

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>>30743445
i think, i hope, they mean an 8yo child can kill you with a gun just as easily as a 20yo can
pulling a trigger has no age limit

>>30743617
i imagine there will always be an underlying amount of insecurity, but a girl that openly displays their injuries probably has megatons of confidence

>>30741063
>rainforest

They named the river after the myth. It's not some tribe that existed in South America. It's based off smaller tribes needing their women to fight too in order to survive, in Europe and Asia.

>>30743716
>8yo child can kill you with a gun just as easily as a 20yo can
The 20 yo would find it easier, and on average would be less likely to fuck up.
>pulling a trigger has no age limit
Agreed, but there's more than that to combat, so it was a dumb point to make in the first place.

>>30743167
>Lt. Gyllenhaal, Maggie
>her husband was a drinker, and a fiend
and I guess you knew her brother Jake?

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>>30735641
>was it a complete lie
It's called an ancient Greek MYTH for a reason anon. Do you honestly think women could do anything by themselves?

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>>30743823
hear he's a hard worker

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>>30736704
>Exaggerated Greek masturbation fantasy. He was writing the equivalent of Gulliver's Travels and sent Heracles to a land full of dominant women.
This is what I would tend to bet on....

I don't know jack about martial arts, but a childhood buddy has been into it since they were a toddler.
One thing that is very commonly observed in martial arts schools is that 99% of women have major problems with getting aggressive at anyone--and especially, with trying to harm anyone.
Even when they are taught the moves, and even during tests when their opponents leave easy shots open, they won't take them because they're reluctant to harm their opponent.
Women students generally seem far more likely to be aggressive with female opponents than with males.

It's particularly sad when a woman takes martial arts classes because she's already been assaulted or raped, and she passes the classes, and gets attacked again--and doesn't use any of her training even tho she could have. This is not unusual.

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>>30743981
like with most problems regarding females, proper grooming is the answer

>>30743167
>her husband was a drinker, and a fiend
I heard she got in real deep with the loan sharks and had no money for surgery, actually. Even caused her divorce.

>>30743981
I was a high school wrestler and to be fair i was kinda a pussy in regards to hurting the other player

then again I had serious confidence issues, most of which because my mother was a cunt but that's another story

>>30744024
>annoy this child
>she starts punching
>your nuts begin right where her fists end

PLS

NO

>>30738411
Actually, wrestling is one of those few sports where women have the potential to completely outclass men, that low centre of gravity comes in handy anon.

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>>30744095
>women have the potential to completely outclass men

stopped reading there

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>>30744074
some men would pay good money for that experience

>>30744095
true, i've see it happen

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>>30744155
>posting obvious fetish shit webm

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>>30736246
>>30735712
Dragons crown is awesome

>>30735641
>based on a complete lie
>like the Soviet sniper Lyudmila Pavlichenko

[citation needed]

While Soviets used their snipers (along with tank aces, fighter aces etc.) excessively in propaganda and probably inflated their kills by quite a bit, there was always an actual exceptionally performing individual at the core of the story (and Germans have been doing the exact same thing). There isn't really anything that would prevent a woman from being an exceptional sniper, either, unlike, say, an exceptional member of heavy infantry. So I think you're just a manlet basement dweller frothing at the mouth at the very notion that a woman could have performed well in combat at some point, because you need someone who, by default, sucks more than you.

>>30741071
Actually abraham lincoln didn't give a shit about niggers he said in a letter "If i could unify the state without freeing the slaves i would, if I could unify the states by freeing all slaves i would, and if I could unify the states by freeing some, and leaving others alone, I would also do that"

>>30744284
I correct myself, personally Lincoln didn't agree with slavery, but unifying the states were more important

>>30744274
preach

>>30744095
Which is why Greco-Roman wrestling is a unisex sport, amirite?

>>30744155
>some men would pay good money for that experience
some men "do"--not "would"
most upper-east-coast US cities have "escort services" where guys can pay to wrestle with female pro/semi-pro bodybuilders during their lunch hours so their wife won't know
sometimes more-than-wrestling happens, depends on the girl and the money involved, but the escort service doesn't know anything about that of course
these grills are called roid toys

I know somebody who knows somebody....
lunch-hour hookers are a HUGE thing in NYC, manhattan, boston, ect ect
usually starts at $1000/hr, the madam sends a car to pick you up so they know where you work and you can't pull any shit on them

>>30745040
>Unisex
>in a sport where you have to catch your opponent and keeping contact with him as close as possible.
What could go wrong.

>>30740986

GIVE ME YOUR HAT

>>30735641
Muh dick

>>30743716
>>30743561
Tattoos and piercings are bought with cash. Scars can only be bought with strength.

>>30744070
As a postgrad wrestler, I can tell you being a more hesitant "pussy" among wrestlers is simply you keeping a foot in the zone of sanity.

When your average wrestling competitor fondly recollects the time he crushed another wrestler's spine by dumping him on his head and crippling him for life, it's best to err on the pussy side for your own good.

>>30744095
>I'm Not a Do Nothing Bitch
>t Ronda Rousey

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>>30746268
>female athletes

>>30743032
The Feeling is mutual.

>>30744095
Every time I've ever wrestled a girl that wasn't obese I just picked them up on my shoulder or turned them upside down and held them by their ankles.

I'm so many weight classes above most girls I can OHP them and I don't even lift.

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>>30745127
yeah, but i wasn't talking about 'adult' aged females...

>>30744231
what is up with that nigga in the armor in that pic seriously animu

>>30738193
>Women are quite a bit weaker than men and as a result drawing a bow strong enough to kill anything bigger than a hare is extremely difficult for them.
40 pounds bow kills just fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsqrlaIef2o
This is why warriors always were distinguished by armor from civilians. Because killing non-armored men is child's (and women's) play.

>>30741256
That's because it implies that some things are biologically vegetables.

>>30735641
I want more beef.

Idc if real or not I will find girl I can tell Babushka and she be proud.

Girl will innawoods with me and we will fight for who be top on bear skin rug.

>>30750197
>This is why warriors always were distinguished by armor from civilians.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity_in_combat

>>30741289
Mandic my good slav, what is this delightful femine monsters name?

>>30744155
"Oh nooo, she has subdued me between her thighs, what am i to doooo..."

>>30744155
guy gets a boner at the end

>>30750197
But a light draw weight bow lacks distance and penetration, I don't think a lot of war bows were 40# draws

>>30751112
You know you'd get one too if you were eating this gurl's pussy, unless you're a fag

>>30738269
No, it doesn't really benefit your archery to do this as women with large breasts are perfectly capable of being good archers (there are modern living examples of this being the case), whereas doing so puts you at a ridiculously high risk of bleeding to death or dying of infection during the healing process.

>>30751536
In the myths it was said that Amazons did cut off one of their breasts, but it was also said that they used captured men to father children, killing the man when his role was completed, then killed any male infants resulting from the the union whilst keeping any girls.

>>30750962
https://www.instagram.com/julia_vins/

The Amazonians as far as anyone can tell were a myth. Or at least a very romanticized version of a culture with females in the military.

But as far as chicks in combat go, the Celts allowed women to fight and often times had females teach martial arts and combat tactics to younger people in the tribes. It depends on the tribe of course. But it was still fairly common to have women in combat roles in Celtic armies. And you know, most Celts were not, as OP said 5 foot tall emaciated people. They were about 5'9"-6 foot tall emaciated dudes and chicks.

The Langobards/Lombards, when fighting larger enemies allowed women to fight, and apparently they held their own pretty well. But they did try to disguise themselves as men, as to not be "War Trophy'd"

The Chinese did it as more of a status symbol, but they did have female military units. I have never seen any record of them actually fighting though.


Lots of South American or Samoan tribes had female warriors, once again as sort of a "Last line" sort of deal. Minus a few Amazonian (as in South American) tribes where women do, do the fighting.

>>30744565
Good catch, exactly what I was going to say without your correction.

The fact he managed to do both eventually is pretty telling of his faith in his own abilities.

>>30741063
>posting a dude in yoga pants and manbun

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>>30738360
Sorry for the late ass reply but that's Charity Witt.

Not to be confused with Alicia Coates, Katia Callegari, Amelia Wall, Lauren Drain or Anllela Sagra

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>>30753214
>Anllela Sagra
umf

>>30738160

You should probably know that without modern medical technology, cutting a woman's breast off is a pretty awesome way to murder her. Electrocautery and antibiotics are pretty much indispensable if you're going to be cutting through highly vascularized tissue and creating an open wound the size of your face while you're at it.

Now, there is such a thing as breast ironing. But it's not very effective.

>>30735712
Hi. I'm /k/'s resident steppesfag. Hold on for me to have a smoke and then I'll correct all the shitanswers.

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>>30755333
breast cancer must have been pretty gross back then
having to live with lumpy tits until the cancer end you
thank god for modern medicine allowing a woman to be high speed low drag of her own volition

>>30755333
Well as a register offender i can tell women cant take a lot of dick
>>30755422
It may have been of those demons yaking over someone time of medicine painful lumps only invites curious surgeons you know that
DaVinci knew that very well he was dissecting niggas I'm a Glo O Block ass nigga, I put heat to a nigga

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>>30735641
My gf is 6'1''. She plays rugby and basketball and has dense legs and core. she is very strong. I'm getting her into olympic lifitng because she's training to join the USAF after college to pay for medical school

If you train a tall and strong female in combat she could hold her own against smaller men. but man of similar size and training will be stronger

>mfw when my gf can crush a melon between her legs

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Ayyy

>>30751536
Modern examples tend to use modern compound bows with a release which puts the string in front of the tits, not that they can't shoot traditional

>>30735641
>>>/fit/

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>>30741251
mfw i would

>>30755530
>If you train a tall and strong female in combat she could hold her own against smaller men
Yea if she's on steroids

>>30743561
no

>>30738190
Ignore him, he's insecure in his own maleness.

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>>30735641
There's truth to it, but to find it you must place it in time and space. It's a meme in early classical greek art and literature, but it wasn't something real at that time, it was a distorted remembrance of something much earlier.

When horses were first domesticated, they were smaller. Too small to carry a fighting man on their back. We would call them ponies. And these ponies were not used to carry men, they were used to pull wagons. When they came to be used in war, they pulled chariots, and for awhile the chariot was the most powerful unit on the battlefield.

And those are the days in which the amazons, the real amazons not the later greek trope, lived. They were teenage girls, petite ones, and THEY were the first to ride horseback.

That new and still unique capability made them a terror to their enemies, for a few years, until larger horses were bred and it no longer made sense to field warrior-maidens.

>>30750197
A bow of that weight is only used for hunting because you're not going to shoot outside of 20 yards.

They're fucking useless at any serious range.

T.Archer

>>30741733
>So 1/4 of the Scythian military were females? That's pretty fucking good.
That's a pretty reaching conclusion. A less inferential conclusion would be that 1/4th of all Scythian women important enough to earn their own grave mounds held some kind of position that gave them the right/status to be buried with arms. It may hasn't been a position earned through martial valor or one granted due to status as leader of tribe, or perhaps priestess of a female god of victory/war/the hunt/etc.

>>30757789
Why wouldn't you just use small teenage boys?

Example, professional female athletes regularly scrimmage against teenage male athleathletes and get shut out
http://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/05/25/matildas-beaten-7-0-by-newcastle-jets-under-15-boys-team/

>>30755530
color me jealous anon