AR Thread

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>>30553485
Shit bread Op. KYS.

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>>30553485
Part 1/3

If you need a gun for home defense/and or dangerous happenings, your best bet is an AR15.

Let’s talk about why the AR15 is the BEST option for a SHTF scenario.

The AR15 is the weapon of choice for the US Military and most, if not all US Police forces.

The ammunition (5.56/.223) is extremely common with Every US community, USMIL/POLICE included, and is an accurate, hard hitting round. It is also light, and inexpensive.

The AR15 itself is a truly remarkable design, and is utterly reliable if manufactured correctly. The famed “AR15 is unreliable” saying goes as far back to Vietnam, where the US government attempted to use Surplus 30-06 powder in early M193 ammunition. This is very wrong, and lead to early M16s not working properly. If the Government had followed the suggested power recommendation, the reputation never would have materialized.

Let’s talk a bit about the AR15s obvious competitor, the AK. The Russians designed a very nice rifle with the AK47, and further improved it into the AKM. But you have to understand that Russia is not allowed to export AKMs to the US anymore, and modern AKs for sale in the US are either Eastern European parts kits (of dubious quality) or brand new US made AKs (of EXTREMLY dubious quality).

Not to mention the fact that the AK is no more reliable than the AR15 in the first place, and its ammunition, the 7.62x39 is a rather anemic cartridge past 300 yards, and has the ballistics of a bowling ball. The AK and its Ammunition is also not used by any sizable US Police Forces, and almost all 7.62x39 ammunition is manufactured overseas, much of it IN RUSSIA, you can see issues with the availability of spare parts and ammunition in a crisis.

I am not suggesting the AK is a bad platform, merely that it is not the best choice for a “Life and Liberty” gun.

Now let's talk about how to actually get an AR15.

i like t4 threads better

>>30553515
Part 2/3

It is highly advisable that you BUILD your AR15, as you save quite a bit of money doing this, and you get to tailor the rifle to your preferences from the beginning.

There are 3 forms of common AR15 builds that you can start with, keep in mind, once you get familiar with the platform, you’ll learn of more, but these require no tinkering to make work.

16” Mid Length, 20” Rifle Length, and 14.5 Carbine Length.

16” Mid Length is what I recommend to those getting a new AR, as it is the minimum legal barrel length to keep your AR considered a rifle, and not a “pistol”(thus allowing you to have a stock without NFA paperwork)

This is a soft shooting and well balanced combination, and is utterly reliable. “Mid Length” refers to the gas system length, with many prebuilt ARs, 16” rifles will simply have a Carbine Length gas system, which is outdated, and increased felt recoil/parts wear.

Here are some good brands to look at when BUILDING an AR. I may leave out some, but any listed here will be QUALITY.


PSA, BCM, Daniel Defense, Noveske, Midwest Industries, Aero, KAC, LMT, Rainer Arms, and VLTOR

PSA and BCM are considered the best for new shooters because of their milspec quality and affordable price points while providing excellent QC and parts quality.
going to pay more for this convenience, and some of these have out of date features, such as carbine length gas systems on 16" rifles.


You should avoid Red Barn, Radical Firearms, and PSA PTAC.

>>30553551
Part 3/3

Here’s some general advice for all things AR15 related

It is generally a good idea to stick to "Mil-spec" guidelines, or above when building an AR. Everything I recommend will meet or surpass these.

It is a good idea to have 500 rounds of quality, brass case ammo in storage.

M193 is the best ammo to stockpile.

1/7 or 1/8 barrel twists is the best.

Only buy Magpul mags, Lancer L5 mags, or GI mags with Magpul followers.(Shitty mags are the #1 reason a rifle is unreliable)

I personally recommend that those new to the platform buy a Complete Upper, and a Complete Lower from any of the companies I recommended, they will all be interchangeable.

Don't worry about fancy shit, free floating a rifle right away isn't needed, and fancy optics aren't required, but both are nice.

If you plan on using this rifle for defense, a weapon mounted light is 100% necessary, bad things happen at night, seriously it’s not mall ninja shit and anyone who has actually used a rifle at night can confirm this.

>>30553485
u went shooting recently pb? i saw the carbons

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>>30553515
>>30553551
>>30553566
So do we need to cap this or what?

Also kys.

whats a half decent but not stupidly overpriced stock? looking for one since i went prebuilt and it scrapes up my face as i fire

>>30553572
no, i need to though. its been a while. might go sunday

>>30553590
b5 or magpul

>>30553590
B 5
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>>30553485
In

>>30553515

>7.62x39

Arguably just as commonly found in the US as 5.56/.223, but jesus christ you could atleast do the credit of mentioning 5.45x39 when discussing ballistics.

>>30553590
what do you have now? fixed or adjustable stock?

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Add your shit, this needs to be posted to every bread. Suggest edits.

>>30553595
>>30551416
old pic?

>>30553699
new pic. mag and mount are new

>>30553601
thanks

>giddy bump

Uhh...

>>30553499
>>30553499

>>30553776
Ctr stock

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shamelessly toasting in all threads

>>30553789
this one was first

>>30553722
you gonna install that geissele?

I want to build my first lower and throw a Complete upper on it, what should I look out for? Any brands to stay clear of? I'm shooting for 7-800$

>>30553848
nah thats for a pistol its only 9.5"

>>30553850
PSA Premium or BCM are great mid tier uppers. as for the lower get one with a rollmark you like

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>>30553850
Get a BCM.

>>30553871
>only 9.5"
im going to install a 7" on my carbine

problem??????

>>30553906
yes

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>>30553915
y problem?

>>30553937
all sorts of mistakes there

>>30553946
none mistakes, i get to keep my barrel mounted sight with longer radius (on a 7 inch rail)

would have to get a 9.5 inch and put a sight on the rail to increase the radius and i lose my barrel mounted sight benefits.

yes the eotech is garbo, it's just how it is right now.

>>30553937
Whew lad

>>30553968
>less weight
>barrel mounted sight

what's the problem?

>>30553987
i think the issue a lot of guys are having is the idea of a 16" carbine length, m4 profile barrel.

>>30553987
The entire upper is ugly. And so is the lower. Ugly guns don't shoot straight

I shot an AR-15 (Assault Rifle version 15) for the first time yesterday. Firing an AR-15 is horrifying, menacing and very very loud. It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

I’ve shot pistols before, but never something like an AR-15. Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.

Even in semi-automatic mode, it is very simple to squeeze off two dozen rounds before you even know what has happened. If illegally modified to fully automatic mode, it doesn’t take any imagination to see dozens of bodies falling in front of your barrel.

All it takes is the will to do it.

>>30553617
Very few places have any mentionable quantity of 7.62x39 in stock, as far as actual stores.

The vast majority of what is available is FMJ patterned after m43, which even the gomnies stopped using entirely in ~1970 (with the advent of m67). As such they offer very poor terminal ballistics with a late yaw and smallish permanent cavity. Most of the Russian/e. Euro softpoints and hollowpoints also utterly fail to expand, providing even worse terminal performance. Yes, there are a few good expanding loads available but they are significantly more expensive than softpoint 5.56 while still performing worse than the best 5.56, and are extremely scarce.

5.45 is basically completely unavailable outside of internet sales and select Cabelas stores, and has even worse bullet selection than 7,62. Yes, it shoots flatter than and tends to be somewhat more accurate than 7,62, but even the best of the best (hornady steel match 70gr) is still at best 1.5moa ammo.

The only intermediate rifle round that offers better terminal performance across the entire effective range of an "assault rifle" (going by the military definition and intended role) than a 70gr TTSX 5.56 load is a 100gr TTSX 6.5gren load. But it does so at twice the recoil and 4x the cost for very marginal improvements inside 400m.

>>30554087
>Very few places have any mentionable quantity of 7.62x39 in stock, as far as actual stores.

Dude, I don't know where you are, but I've been in a huge variety of Minnesota gun stores, from Twin Cities area, to rural south land, and wilderness woodland stores.

Every fucking one has had substantial stock of 7.62x39 in atleast two flavors.

>>30554106
Currently on the rural/suburban fringe of a major city in MO. In the last 10 years Ive lived in Alabama, Georgia, both Carolinas, Washington, and Idaho.

Maybe 1 in 10 stores, including the big box stores (cabelas, gander, academy, big5, dicks) had ANY 7,62 and what they did have was ALWAYS Tula 123gr fmj.

Most of the places that had any only had a few (as in <5) 20rd boxes

Only once did I see any form of non-FMJ 7.62x39, and it was a Gander in STL that wanted $53 for a 20rd box of Winchester Super X.

>>30554008
all the weight is rearward, it's logically sound.

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in for kill this abortion of a thread

>>30555860
This thread is a no bully zone.

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>>30553485
Why does every thread with MSD and qb in it turn to shit so quickly

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>>30553485
In with soon to be helmet

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>>30553611
Did you stock up on mags and ammo?

>>30555830
Bam. Thank you.

>>30553617
>7.62x39 as commonly available as 5.56/.223
No, you're wrong. Have you considered the military stockpiles?

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>>30555891
ive posted like 2 times in that last 2 threads you fucking nigger

get on TS so i can ban you

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>>30555874
fag

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>>30555908
As I read that I heard "that's a ban"

>>30555900
Do I need to say it or do you know what I'm gonna say m8?

Man, my sleep schedule is all fucked

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>>30555920
How're you doing friend

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In for M-LOK is aesthetically superior to shelfmod

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>>30555983
Who makes that handguard?

Part of me wants to start buying parts for a pistol build ;_;

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>>30555992
Gayslee

Aren't you the one that wanted a MK8 or something and ended up getting that ugly one? Thought you'd know what it is.

>>30555983
uhh your monitor is sideways

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>>30556013
Yes that was me and I just kinda glanced at the thumbnail

I did get the handguard I initially intended to though

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>>30556025
Web browsing and keyframe management for my animations homeboy

>>30556041
Should've got a MK8 or MK4 man. So much better IMO. But as long as you like it.
MK8's look awesome on pistol builds.

>>30556049
figured it was for something like that. I need to learn more about computers

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>>30556049
I like the ALG a lot desu

>>30555906
>Have you considered the ammunition sources you do not, and will never have access to?

Why no, I had not.

>AR has cost me about $1221.55 to build
Fuck.

>>30556138
And it's not even done yet huh?

>>30556148
Just ordered all my upper parts tonight.

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>>30556157
Kek.
Feel the pain

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>>30556138
That's baby stuff man. I initially built mine on a budget but have rebuilt it several times. Now it's well over what yours cost you. It's gotten a bit ridiculous.

>>30556170
>>30556182
The part that's killing me is that I wanted to keep it below $800.

>>30556198
>below $800

Below $1000, I mean.

>>30556198
Build list?

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Just ordered an Aero lower just in case bad shit happens from Dallas.

I have spent way too much money on this shit, but at least I'll have two extra lowers around now.

>>30556253
I'm tempted to order a few more lowers with a nicer finish than the Andersons I have set aside, but really should buy more reloading supplies.

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw

"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.

It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."

Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News

>>30556306
Ok. Stop posting here now.

>>30553485
So I know you all said surefire for a weapon light.

Any other info besides a brand name?

A specific model? Weight is important. Momentary switch on the light itself? Tape switch?

>>30556182
What upper receiver?

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>>30553485
Tear drop forward assist is best

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>>30556509
Fortis Billet Upper Receiver

Does Troy Industries make good uppers?

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>>30556405
My first Surefire was a 6PX, a handheld, which I put in an offset Gear Sector mount on the left side of the gun at 10:30. Obviously, as a handheld, this setup requires constant thumb pressure, but it's a relatively natural way to hold the rifle so it's not too bad. This setup is both cheaper and lighter than a dedicated weaponlight. I got my mount from Rainier on sale a long time ago and the flashlight from amazon, which put the total cost was around 100-110, half the price of the scout.

https://www.gearsector.com/view/product/261/

For my new AR build though, I managed to snag a brand new M952v which was out of production, but which Surefire now advertises on their site again (at a price higher than I paid) with the rail mounted switch. This is very nice arrangement, though it is expensive, and I'm pretty sure weighs a bit more due to the mount and larger assembly. It's also the best looking light there is, but that's hardly a good reason to pay as much extra as you would need to get it through Surefire. I got it through SWFA, and it looks like they still have them. Other people here have gotten theirs through Ebay, but I'm paranoid about knockoffs (and I'm obsessive compulsive so I don't like buying used since the old owner might be careless about germs or toxins [yes, I'm weird]) If you buy the M592v from SWFA and the railed switch from amazon, that will be a total of 500, compared to the less flashy but still workable P6X solution. You could also pay somewhere between both and get a Scout but I can't speak to the quality of those since I don't own any.

Also the Vampire models are probably an unnecessary additional cost unless you have NV of some kind. Yes, they do look cooler but you probably don't want to spend money on an infrared mode you'll never use. Also you can save around 80 bucks if you're fine with the standard unrailed tape switch. You'll have to ziptie it or something to keep it on the gun. Or use the Magpul M LOK mount.

Pic not mine.

well, I fucking did it, I just ordered a 10.5" Nitride coated upper from PSA.

Imma need a BCG though, should I go with the stock, run of the mill phosphate coated $120 BCG/charging handle combo from PSA, or get this?

http://www.tomstactical.com/Black-Nitride-M16-AR-15-Bolt-Carrier-Group-BCG

I'd be getting a Strike Industries charging handle if I went that route.

To answer
>>30556680

There are no AR15 owners, we're reminiscing of old pics of ARs we lost in the lake last year.

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I'll discuss ARs.

I have an SPR by BHI with no forward assist. I've had rifles that didn't seat when you hit the FA so over the years I've taken to simply pushing the bolt forward with my thumb through the ejection port. It's 100% seated when I do so and I know it.

So there's that.

Source: 3 years in combat.

>>30556916
I do not understand the point of this post

>>30556998
It's a discuss ARs thread. Saw someone talking about their Forward Assist. Thought I'd bring up a lesson learned I had which is after years of use I don't trust them. It's more positive control to simply push on the bolt with your thumb.

Cheers anon.

Have ~$250 for a 3-(9?) optic. Don't want strike eagle

Halp

>>30557009
Nikon P223 or Leupold VX1.

>>30557016
Why the vx1 over the vx2?

The Nikon gets a lot of h8 here and that scares me

>>30557021
If you want to keep it under 250 with rings you'll need the VX1. The VX2 retails for 299 new I think. I don't buy used gun parts unless I know the seller real well.

And I have the P223 by Nikon. See pic related above. It's good glass for cheap. The BDC comes with an app for iOS you can adjust the aim points off if you are too lazy to learn your holds yourself. Decent simple cheap optic.

>>30557028
>iOS app

Explain?

>>30557035
It's called spot on or something like that. The reticle was made for 55 gr polymer tip. If you switch loads you can use the app to determine new aim points on the BDC.

>>30557040
Ah okay. Thanks anon

>>30553551
Nogunz noob here. How hard is it to build an AR? Will I need any special tools or equipment?

>>30557088
Easymode. A hammer, a couple of properly sized punches. Luxury tier is a proper barrel wrench that can fit a torque wrench, a vice block and/or geissele reaction rod.

>>30553485
I went into a walmart and got one in 10 minutes. This country is disgusting

AK-47 Is the best

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>>30553485
Fucking hell, how are you supposed to find that bread you donut sack of peanut butter ?

Also, in with most hated AR brand it seems. Unless for their gau5 shit with fake third pin.

I ordered an MRO, I think I'll be one of the first french to have one.

>>30557122
You were in Walmart, who did you expect to see there? Supermodels?

>>30557009
I just bought a PA 1-6x with ACSS reticle for about 225 shipped. You can easily get it for 238. 60 mount from Aero or PA and you're good to go.

>>30553590
Ti-7 from Tactical Intent is the best stock for the money, hands down. Probably even best stock overall, but I haven't tried enough to tell you that.

>>30553590
B5 SOPMOD BEST STOCK
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Will 6x be enough for a 4" target at 400yrds

>>30557211
Plenty enough.

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>TFW you randomly wake up at 4 AM and can't go back to sleep for some reason.

>>30557330
Same ;_;

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>>30557363
yeah its bullshit

>>30557381
I blame Obama, Hillary and the jews

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>>30557433
shit that's not a bad direction to point the finger.

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>>30553485
I bring with me dust.

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>>30557743
>getting your rifle dirty

>>30555983
Agreed. Mlok is better is every way.

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Anyone have a guide on camouflaging an AR?

I just bought my first AR-15. Coming from a milsurp and AK guy, I don't know a whole lot about them, but I'm trying to learn.

I want to camouflage mine, sorta like a flektarn pattern, but I'm worried about fucking up.

>>30557832
http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_6/19_Refinishing.html

lot of good info here

>>30557832
Practice on mags

>>30557850
>>30557852
Thanks. Any idea on how to get a flektarn pattern? I'm thinking of either just literally flicking paint onto it or making some kind of stencil

>>30557879
Get a flectarn stencil

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I'm gonna change some of this later, I feel the last page and the part about PSA/BCM is fucked up.

Also I got anon rage for suggesting not to buy M855 because "it peirces level 4 plates"

Hey Komrade, just finished my noob budget build, are ar uppers supposed to have play between it and the lower?

>>30558086
A little bit is normal yeah.

You can "fix" it with an Accuwedge

>>30558053
>life and liberty gun
first visit to /k/ and it's already making me laugh

>>30558112
Why faggot? You don't like IV8888? :^)

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>>30556067
Hey could the SGA stock be bullshited on to that kind of rifle?

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>>30558172

IV channel would be better if it was just chad tbqh

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>bho has to be manually actuated

Please buy this POS from me

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Welp just got my package in from Quantico Tactical yesterday.

They sent me an LMT semi-auto carrier rather than the LMT bolt I ordered. Is there any reason to keep it? I mean, it's worth more than the bolt I was supposed to get.

It's a nice carrier at least.

>>30558289
$5 cash

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>>30558307
That bolt bounce is worth at least three fiddy

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I'm going to call the store today to see if they have the ap lowers actually in stock. If they don't I'll kms

>>30558289
>>30558317
Did you buy that from hill and mac gun works?

>>30558328
you and me both, i can't find a single sr-15 lower

>>30558354
there is a lgs here that has two

>>30558354
Kys

>>30558328
You really want that lower huh


So what's the general consensus on a handstop / foregrip for shooting from a bench w/ a sandbag?

>>30558337
No, it's a semi auto conversion done by a gunsmith in Europe

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>>30558354
What >>30558365 said

They don't have the QD in the lower but use the rear plate

>>30558365

/arg/ has taught me that the LGS's around me are utter garbage. None of them have lowers, bulk ammo, or any decent parts. It's all just glock brand glocks, entry level prebuilt AR's, and magpul stuff.

I was in Dayton a few months back and every LGS I went to had stripped lowers and all kinds of DD stuff. yes I'm fucking jelly.

>>30558380
there's a company in the US that sold a small run of them for 1500 each. I was about to call you an idiot. but since you are in Europe it makes sense.

>>30558385
Imagine what it's like here in Cali. Turners is nice but those fucktards didn't even have crush washers

>>30558392
The trigger is really shitty, but the sights are good and it's accurate enough with M193. It hates M855 though. Can still call me an idiot. I paid around 400 dollars + 50 for the semi conversion job

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>>30558367

general consensus is ur a faget

>>30558367
>Kys
but then who fill fill your wife up, we all know you can't get erections.

>>30558383
>>30558365
how much?
will they ship to a ffl near me?

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>>30558385
yeah so the store in my home town (which I thought was amaze balls when I was 18) was with out a doubt the worst pile of shit ive ever seen. I went buy there the last time I was home looking for a lower and LPK. They told me "why waste your time building, we have these M&P 15s here you can buy for cheap and put money into upgrading."

Pic related

Their store burnt to the ground about 2 weeks later.

>>30558385
The one with the kac lowers has bulk ammo and a decent selection of lowers/other rifles but I refuse to shop there anymore

>>30558407
I think he said 750 and I'm sure they will ship

>>30558402
O g thx

>>30558407
Hey don't impersonate me, because I'm the guy who actually fills that woman with semen on a regular basis

>>30558418
$750?
For a lower?

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>>30553485
I'm building a 300memeout pistol, is a stainless steel barrel bad for it? I want it for aesthetics nothing much really, I just want to know of they're good barrels, a MAS Defense SS 8.5 barrel with 1x8 twist specifically

>>30558418
it has the trigger and everything?
can i get the number to the shop?

>>30558407
>>30558427

(425) 640-3999

they open in about an hour and 45

>>30558397
I don't know about the gun market in rapefugee land so I will hold off on calling you an idiot.

>>30558432
awesome, thanks.
might have to wait until next week to actually buy it however.

>>30558427
(425) 640-3999
They open at 10 my time

>>30558427

This is the picture of it directly from their facebook page. Its been sitting there for the last 6 months and its not everyday someone is willing to dump that many sheckles on a complete lower. So I'm sure they would be willing to do a transfer

>>30558383

>>30556157
> $1220
>hasnt even gotten to the upper
What the fuck. Thats supposed to be the expensive part, how the fuck did you manage to spend over a grand on a lower and stock?

>>30558473
....the upper parts are what made it that expensive....

>>30558451
does leroy still work there

$700 for Bushmaster .223 AR-15 a good deal?

>>30558492
not sure, if tiffany isn't there I leave. Shes the only one that wont get into a pissing match with me.

>>30558417

all the stores around here are copy paste boring shit, they all have the same crap

>>30558418

why do you refuse

>>30558488
>I is smart
Derp, mah bad

>>30558515
>>30558492
one of you should try and buy it as cheap as possible then sell it to me for a profit.

>>30558527
I was really hoping I 8 the b8

>>30558525
pretty much

>>30558525
they can be fudd jews

>>30558529
ATF GIT

>>30558506
yes

>>30558506

>expecting to get help or advice in a tripfag containment thread

but seriously, no its not. you can build better for not much more and brownells has stripped Aero rifles for like $600.

>>30558506
What model? Is it a standard configuration milspec?

>>30558549

>arg gives no advice

when will this meme die

>>30558536
nah m8, ship it to an ffl.
basically, you're buying it and holding it until i have the cash.

>>30558561
The first thread where people dont post "new to ARs, spoonfeed me on how to build" 10 times in 100 posts.

>>30558572

nobody is going to spoonfeed people who know nothing but if you come here with a general idea of what you're trying to build you'll get plenty of advice. hell, dan made that copy pasta too for serious newbies >>30558053

>>30558564
If I had 750 to dump into an lower to hold for a guy on the internet I'd be a lot better off in life than I am now.

>>30558558
I only saw it at a local gun store. I can check that if I go back though. I'm a noob btw.

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I have a Ruger AR556, babby's first AR, and I'm looking for my best route on slings and sling attachment points.

Right now I have a Magpul CTR stock and M-LOK carbine length handguard on the rifle. The CTR has a hole for QD swivels as does the bayonet lug. I'm looking to add the M-LOK Paraclip mount to the handguard and use the Magpul MS3 sling. This gives me two locations to mount the sling on the forend, with the ability to go to single point if I want.

Am I making this too difficult, or is this a good option?

tl;dr how do I into slings on AR-15?

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>>30558515
i had a problem with all of them but when she came in she gave me my money back.

>>30558525
i ordered a lower from psa, mind you this is the second time i have done this from the same lgs. i passed the bcg and paid the transfer fee, they gave me the lower. then they say oh you need to be 21, gib lower back.
this was before i or they knew about you having to be 21 for a completed lower, all i wanted was my transfer fee back. they refused to give it back so i didnt give the lower back.

after arguing for a while i finally got my money back. whats retarded is at the time they were fairly new and i had spent a lot of money on ammo and two other rifles there and they all knew me.

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>>30558536
ill sell it to you for 800 plus you pay for shipping

>>30558587
heres the thing about bushmasters

If it is a pre 2006 bushmaster then its pretty decent quality. But that will also mean its a decade plus old

if its a post cerberus rifle then its QC wont be as good.

for 700 you could have the same quality in a new rifle. A rifle that some bubba hasn't fucked up.

>>30558623
get a 20rd mag fag

>>30558594
yep I don't deal with anyone else

>>30558610
you quoted the wrong person familam

>>30558623
>3rd hole filled

nice

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How do I get this pleb paint off of my rifle?

>>30558650
You don't.

>>30558610
ok, buy it and post pics.

>>30558650
its laser etched you are gonna have to paint over it

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>>30558639
>you quoted the wrong person familam
yeah i did

>>30558664

>>30558674
>he thinks i will give him money without proof that he owns the thing i want
m8, i was born at night but not last night

>MRO out for delivery July 7th
>Still not here
WTF our post office is a 20x30' box in the woods. Can't wait for Trump to shut down these inept cunts

>>30558656
>>30558667
Thanks. It's not a big deal but the less obtrusive logos the better.

>>30558681
i need to buy my lower first

>>30558686
mailman took it

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>>30558711

rifle and gear is muy bueno

>>30558686
>usps is the fastest for me
i shipped my larue mount for $3 on teusday and it arrived in washington today

>>30558726
thanks

>>30558561
Well can you help me here bb
>>30558426

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one more

>>30558711

now that is top sexy. you went all out on that parts list and have impeccable taste.

11/10

>>30558762
what is that logo

>>30558762
>>30558711

how do you like that MEGA ambi lower? I've been looking at one for my pistol build.

>>30558762
what is that bottle

>>30558752

stainless barrels are heavier and harder to clean. personally I think they're ugly.

>>30558784

are you talking about the NASA patch?

>>30558797

CLP

>>30558807
What about a melonite nitride barrel

>>30558835

A GOOD nitride barrel is gtg. Rainier makes some nice ones with poly rifling. Mite b cool.

>>30558583
Thats what I was trying to convey.

Its doubly annoying when the same damn question is asked and answered multiple times per thread because people wont even ctrl-f their question much less read the whole thing.

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>>30558835

pretty much this >>30558860

I have a QPQ/melonite aero barrel that is nice

>>30558882

for sure. I've explained the same thing 4 or 5 times in a single thread before. cant forget the proverbial

>what PC is that

every time I post my gear. its like the new "is that a famas" meme

>inb4 what PC. its an LBT

>>30558901
Hey Psi, what PC is that?

>>30558901
im going to buy these plates then sell the back one on /gq/

https://armour-wear.com/shop/all/carriers/tpg-armour-wear-package/

I feel like cuck for not hopping on that 50% off Geissle blem rail deal. Will they ever offer it again?

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>>30558951

its a condor MOPC

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>>30558963
>Will they ever offer it again?
yeah, next year.

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>>30558961

>a bunch of dallas cops get shot in the back and die

>still doesnt want to use a back plate

>>30558901
Just checked the file name, Jesus that's accurate. By the hat has to be a flat billed hat of some sort

>>30558970
I can wait the bastards out. They'll never know what hit them

>>30558991

the shirt in that pic is actually a pewpewlife shirt too, one of colion's

>>30558968
>was expecting some form of reee
Well played sir

>>30558986
:^

>>30559003
i cant remember why they did it last time, i dont think it was for the 4th.

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>>30559007
Are they quality shirts?

I Un-ironically like the guy and his videos

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Anyone have a primary arms gift cert they want to put toward my crush washers and gas tube?

>>30559076
kys

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>>30559091
"No"

>>30559080

>anderson lower
>geissele rail

huh.

>>30553485

I'm looking for a 12-14 inch free float hand guard with 4 rails. Thinkin I'm probably gonna have to order one online. Can anyone help me out? I'm relatively new to ARs and have no idea what I'm looking for in terms of quality. Looking to spend about $200 on it.

I also want a decent pair of iron sights, as my new AR came with only a red dot.

>>30559154

>with 4 rails

you mean a quad rail or pic rail?

>irons

how much are you trying to spend

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>>30558701
Kek he probably did. He's always dripping of crates of ammo so he probably got wise.

>>30558729
MRO mount?
I skipped the Larue mount cuz lower 1/3 and went with ADM QD mount, paid $8 for shipping and its been a week and still in ND. I swear the mid west is a shipping black hole, every god damn time.

This mount better be tits Fluffy

>Waiting on parts to take new photos for circlejerking
Wardens are so nice in sand pits

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>>30559189

I'm still waiting on my new rail to arrive, they were out of stock but its been 2 weeks now. Looks like I ordered the same rail you have

>>30559154
KAC Stolen Valor and Taupe

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>>30559153
Ye. Had to start somewhere

Went in to buy one today and got delayed.

I guess thats what I get for shitposting on a cantonese cartoon forum.

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>>30559226

the ability to evolve the AR over time is one of my favorite things about them. just interesting to see a $250 rail with a $50 lower. rifle looks good.

>>30559229

was it your first purchase? did you ever get a misdemeanor of any kind? could have been delayed because people are panic buying

>>30559118
>0559118▶
>File: image.jpg (3.17 MB, 2448x3264)
>>>30559091 (You)
>"No"
ree

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>>30559229
Should've gone to Walmart, can get them there in like 10 min

>>30559189
>MRO mount?
no, t2

>>30559178

Gotta be honest with you, I'm not too sure on the difference or which would suit me better. I will say however, that despite my desire of good quality and functionality, I am also trying to satisfy my thirst for tacticool bullshit on my new toy.
As for irons, I'm not entirely sure. I was thinking flip-ups since I'm probably going to get a proper scope for it at some point. What would you recommend?

>>30559219

Thank you sir.

>>30559207
Sure did friendo
It is the tits too, would buy again. Light as fuck and comfortable as hell. Have big hands and manage a perfect c clamp on it. Only thing is if has the smallest of cunthair bump up from upper when run finger over it but w.e
Get a kineckt qd rail section, great if you don't have a switched light and want to move it during the day so not slamming off knee in 1 point. Gear sector mount is a work of art

>>30559281
Well a quad rail has rail on 4 sides, and they generally are expensive and fuck heavy but have a lot of mounting space.

Mlok / keymod are aesthetically superior (my opinion) and are generally lighter but still give you the option to mount tacticool bullshit on your gun (mlok best (opinion)) while still being free float and having a wide price margin

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>>30559281

I like magpul BUIS pro. very low profile. I'd suggest getting a keymod or mlok rail. quad rails are fine but heavier and bulkier than they need to be.

in pic related, top rail is a quad rail aka picatinny rail while the bottom is called MLOK. see >>30558970 for an example of keymod rail.

only difference is how things like lights, foregrips, etc mount to them but MLOK or keymod will be lighter and slimmer than a quad rail

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>>30559283

I have a gear sector mount see >>30559314
but I bought an arisaka inline mlok mount to switch my SF over when I get the new rail

>>30559260
Thx. Saving for strike eagle and a mount. Red dots and glasses don't mix with me.

>>30559312
>>30559314
Something neither of us mention is that a lot of quad rails are like fucking cheese graters to your fingers and if you aren't wearing bitch mittens, your hands will hurt.

Not to say you can't get rail covers but non quad rails tend to be easier on the hands

>Posted once w.o trip
Hope I dont get banned.

>>30559274
Oh nice how do you like it, haven't played w one yet

>>30559330

yeah thats why my quad is completely covered in ladder covers, but I feel no need for any rail covers on my MLOK rail

I tried my buddy's Larue MBT trigger yesterday and couldn't notice much difference between it and a milspec trigger, besides the smoother, wider surface area. Are $200+ triggers a meme?

>>30559260
>was it your first purchase?
No, I own a .22lr, a .380 acp and a .38/45

>did you ever get a misdemeanor of any kind?
A brawling charge when I was 17, but its off my record now.

>could have been delayed because people are panic buying
I hope so. The fbi website said its probably because i match the physical description of a wanted criminal or something like that. I dunno man. Its gay. Ruined my weekend

>>30559358
b8

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>>30559347
Which for someone concious of cost / weight is a considerable factor...

But damn, I really love my ALG

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>>30559358

shit b8 but I'll bite. for starters a milspec trigger is SS while the MBT is two stage. dont know how you could miss that

>>30559367
.38/44

typo my bad. A s&w model 20. Got it cheap with the cops issued holster still with it.

>>30559312
>>30559314

I don't mind a little extra weight so I think I will go with a quad rail. I appreciate the suggestions.

>>30559330

See, the thing about tacticool bullshit is that it goes really well with a foregrip.

>>30559423

if you want a free float quad rail under $200 look at midwest industries

>>30553485

I need an AR for SHTF and I'm looking for recommended components. I have the following requirements:

Reliable
DI gun
16" barrel
interchangeability, I don't mind non-standard parts, as long as they can be replaced with standard parts. (drop in trigger etc.)
must function with shitty ammo, just in case. Even steel cased.
must have forward assist
M-Lok rails
NICE iron sights
NICE trigger
I also don't mind good looks....


My area is suburban, I might bug out to innawoods. My budget for JUST THE RIFLE is $1500. I have mags and ammo, will get glass later. I have built a shit-tier AR before, no issues there. Build from scratch or not, doesn't matter.

14.5" carbine gas or 14.5" midlength gas?

>>30559494
carbine

>>30559440
What gets me is that their FF quads weigh hardly anything more than their MLOK or Dickmod offerings.
>Carbine-length G3 M-Series MLOK rail- 6.7 oz
>Carbine-length G2 Free-Float Quadrail- 9.0 oz
I don't know if that's MI making light quadrails or heavy MLOK/Keymod.

Meanwhile, KAC's carbine RAS clocks in at 11.5 oz.

>>30558426
You'll be fine.

>>30559515

Light quad rails I think. Their mlok rail weights are comperable to other companies

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>>30559494
MIDDY
I
D
D
Y

>>30559526
Their drop-ins manage to be even lighter.
>Carbine gen 2 two-piece drop-in quadrail- 7.5 oz

Their middy version which I'm trying to sell feels like fucking nothing by itself.

>>30559465

Build. SSA-E trigger, geissele mk8 or rail of choice, magpul pro BUIS or stolen valor, FN, BCM or ballistic advantage barrels are fairly priced

>>30559515
I saved somewhere around 10-11 oz. Going from 15" quad to 13" mlok

>>30559528
Any malfunctions with it?

>>30553485
556 is gay. Great for killing pajama men and nigger with no body armor. When cops, gooks and who ever come in with plate carriers you're all fucked. 7.62 will make its appearance again as master race round

>>30559547
Does FN sell induvidual barrels or do you have to get a PSA upper with the FN barrel?

>>30559545

When I switch from my 12.65" quad to the 15" mlok I bought I'm only going down 4 ounces in weight IIRC. Geissele mk8 13" is only 3.5 ounces lighter than my quad

>>30559550
Any downside to putting light FCG springs in a 300blk gun?

>>30559560
Post your rifle

>>30559549
Well yeah, you had a fucking 15" quadrail.
>>30559550
None whatsoever, and has a recoil impulse that can be described as "cute".

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>>30559560
Yes, justify your C308 Purchase more.

>>30559561

I bought my FN barrel from Midwest industries. 16" midlength CHF 1:7

>>30559583
Oh yeah that reminds me, MI is apparently shit according to Anon on /pol/ and shouldn't be on my TL:DR AR Copypasta

>>30559576
It was pretty egregious.

>>30559595
No one gives a shit about your copypasta

>>30559595

people love to hate them

>>30559610
You have no idea how much time its going to save /arg/ with anon faggots like you.

"I don't know anything, wat do?" Types

>>30559547

Thank you for responding, tripfag. I'll be sure to look into those. Are all LPKs basically the same still? Can you recommend a good ambi lower? I was looking at LWRC before.

>>30559632
>Basic mil-spec ones? DPMS' offering feels like dragging your cock across hgih-grit sandpaper. Everyone elses' pretty much feels the same and are workable.

>>30559649
>sudden maymay arrow out of nowhere
Aight.

>>30559610

Your mother doesn't love you

>>30559632

Mega and Rainier make nice ambi lowers

>>30559662

I'm 13, what is a maymay?

>>30559678

Your life is a meemee

>>30559626
Have you ever been on a board with a sticky? Or any forum at all?

Go to any fitness board, same 10 threads every week. Go to a camera forum, knife forum, mobile phone forum.... People are fucking dumb and don't put in the leg work. All the pasta will do is free unconscious advertising through the repeated exposures to the brands.

>>30559583
>>30559677
>>30559547

Thanks to you, brethren.

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First at build here. I bought pic related and a PSA complete blem lower for $160. With transfer fees and everything this will cost me $606. Still need sights for it. How did I do?

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>>30559440

So I'm looking there and I think I've found what I want in pic related, but that bit about compatibility has me concerned. As I said I'm pretty new to ARs so a lot of this is French to me.
If it matters, what I'm working with is a Bushmaster QRC. I know I'll have to remove the delta ring and the thing in front of the handguard that I'm not quite sure what it's called, and I'll deal with that when the time comes.
For now though, I've got cash burning a hole in my pocket. Could you tell me if this will work with what I've got?

>>30559332
really nice and light weight. good, positive clicks for windage/elevation and the brightness is good.

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>>30559568
Can I get some opinions on this? Being trip related, best I can do will be a RightToBear Nickel Teflon trigger or a Hiperfire EDT. I figure springs will be a good cheap option, the trigger sucks ass

>>30559706

>All the pasta will do is free unconscious advertising through the repeated exposures to the brands.

but that's all that ends up happening when people post "I know nothing, what do I buy" anyways. The copypasta will save typing it out every day. Until people start forging guns from scratch gun forums are inherently hail corporate

>>30556775
Thank you so much

>>30559721
It will work, though you will need a low pro gas block like the one at bottom of your pic.

>>30559754
I guess. The main issue I have with this forum is the hivemind and this is just a more efficient delivery method.

But it has it's pros.

>>30559721

You'll have to remove delta ring and barrel nut, and A2 FSB along with gas tube, block and muzzle device when you install that. There are a lot of videos on how to turn an A2 FSB delta ring AR into a free float, check out YouTube

>>30559773

It is hive mind and has an echo chamber vibe to it but at least people are shilling brands from experience, and most have compared the products they recommend to similar alternatives. For example I recommend building always but I owned a 6920 once upon a time.

>>30559716

Looks fine so far. Those D&H mags go on sale for 6.99 very often. They're great especially for the price.

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Funniest part about the Tavor is that the marksmen choose M4s

>>30559583
>Same Handguard and barrel
Time for an MBT so we can be super butt buddies.

Wait, what profile?

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>>30559862

Medium contour

>mfw I ordered an MBT a few weeks back

lmao what lower and furniture do you have?

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>>30559761

Okay, so just to confirm the thing in front of the hand guard is the gas block?
Sorry I know it's probably a really dumb question, but I'm a total noob here. I actually received the AR as a gift so I'm kinda throwing myself right in here. Pic related is what I've got though.

>>30559919
And I forgot to thank >>30559775
I'll check some of those videos out.

>>30555983
>In for M-LOK is aesthetically superior to shelfmod
>>30557817
>Agreed. Mlok is better is every way.

Can I ask why you guys say this? I only have Mlok out of necessity.

>>30558590
>tl;dr how do I into slings on AR-15?
If it helps you at all, I'm using your pic related MLok para-clip thing, along with a BCM QD end plate holding a Damage Industries QD D-ring for my sling setup. It will basically be the exact same setup as my WASR.

I can't yet speak to where I will place the forward mount because I only just ordered all my upper parts last night.

>>30559919
You might be able to get away with that gas block. Do some measuring of the handguard ID

>>30559728
Lovely, what's the difference vs getting a cheapety PRO or MRO. Never really looked into it, only got the MRO cuz it was cheap. I actually like shooting irons.

they don't have it in stock reeeeeee brb kms

>>30553485
Which of these kits has the better barrel? What's the difference between the "Premium" kit's "machine gun steel" and the melonite kit's 4150V Chrome Moly Vanadium? I'm wanting to build a .mil style AR, I already have a PSA carry handle at home.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15-05/rifle-kits.html?upper_barrel_length=1386

>>30560006
lighter and smaller.
that's all i can think of

>>30558795
It's great, the only thing I don't like is the position of the ambi bolt release. I get my finger hung up on the dust cover while I'm trying to find it. It's not really intuitive, but it's the industry standard

>>30560041
The FN "machine gun steel" is literally the same barrel used by the military.

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>>30559887
Kekek only 8 more months
PSA and ACS-L for A E S T H E T I C S also a place for batteries for G2X and XC1
This was before SFMB, Stolen Valor, Wedgelok rail covers, and EBRv2 junked for BAD lever

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>>30559919

heres how youd turn your rifle into a free float

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBeIAjE1BhI

in that video he reinstalls the A2 FSB. you could do a low profile gas block and have it covered by the rail, or do what he did and replace the FSB. you could also get a two piece FF rail which wouldnt require removal of the FSB but youd still need to saw off the delta ring

>>30559952

people dont like keymod because they think it looks like shelving or dicks. personally i prefer the look of mlok

>>30560038

no AP-15 4U?

>>30560041

premium line comes with cold hammer forged barrels that are chrome lined while melonite refers to QPQ finish method

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quench_polish_quench

CHF will be stronger and chrome lined is super easy to clean but newer research suggests QPQ is actually a better coating. youll be fine with either really. the military uses mostly CMV steel with chrome lined barrels and they seem to last a while.

>>30560079

lel well our rifles arent going to be clones of each other but they sure are similar

>>30559736
Y u no answer?

>>30560131
I found a retailer in Canada that has them but I have not idea about the importing process and my lgs did not respond to my inquiry

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>>30560131
>they think it looks like shelving

Oh it totally does. We have shelf racks at my work with the same sort of lockup.

>>30560194

>I have not idea about the importing process

fairly certain its near impossible

>>30560131

Noob you're replying to here, thanks for the video. I'll watch that next, but I'm looking at NicTaylor00's video right now, that one any good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk0e9LA1wqM
It's a 2 parter and seems to cover what I need. Only thing I'm not sure I'll be able to do myself is get the delta ring off, and I'm not super confident about just cutting it off with a saw. Maybe I'll look up another vid after I'm done watching these to give myself a little boost, but I haven't even ordered my rails yet so I might be getting a bit ahead of myself.

>>30560211
nah the atf's website says FFLs can import for unlicensed persons (me). It can't be certain arms, I forgot the list but a lower is not on it. There are a bunch of forms the receiving lgs has to fill out

>>30560218

skimmed it quickly but it seems like a pretty good video. he's pretty sloppy getting that FSB off but whatever. bear in mind almost every FF rail is a little different from the next so when you decide to buy one look up a YT video on that particular rails installation procedure

>I haven't even ordered my rails yet so I might be getting a bit ahead of myself.

no its good to know what youre getting into

>>30560250

interdasting

>>30560272
very

>>30559154 here

Think I'm all set. Thanks a lot for the help fellas, it's much appreciated.

>>30560297

get two and sell me one

>>30560307
Sure for $300

>>30560323

dont be a jew