/arg/ AR general / tripfag containment

>>30560406
>operators operating
>a Rescue Randy
Kek

>>30560422
you forgot
>blue BCG's

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>>30560422

PJ's training

>>30560373
those are correct pictures. the Mississippi link if sold out and the other is the canadian one i found

think im going to buy an Ops Core Maritime

all the cool operator dudes have them

not sure if my wallet can take 1400$ but i don't really care living in debt forces me to be frugal

So I'm moving to a big city and feel like the habbening is coming. I'm fucked. Also I think I'm buying a 1-4x nightforce for my next build. Discuss.

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Thoughts?

>I know, I need to replace that stupid stock

>>30560493
the habbening has already begun

>>30560500
DG?

>>30560508
Looks really clean. What bc?

>>30560523
Cryptic Mystic Black. I'm on the fence about the benefits of it, but it's pretty fucking slick, and easy to clean.

>>30560510
Well it's started anyway. Moving to st. Louis too. It'll be a good time.

>>30560543
screw benefits, gucci is life

i like 20 inch uppers but bought a PSA complete lower because reasons

> so obviously it was M4 stock

how much of a faggot am I if i drop my BCM A4 upper on an M4 lower? im aware that it will function AOK

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In like donkey kong with THE most aesthetic rail ever

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No new pics, yet

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>>30560406
Best Korea operates.

>>30560558
>st Louis

That should go well.

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i guess ill buy this lower if i cant find an ap15

>>30560583
Whatever you need to say to feel better about that buyer's remorse, bruv.

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Still waiting on buffer, barrel, CH, trigger and trigger guard. Everything but the barrel is in the mail and that's gonna be an additional 6 weeks or so. Then another few for SBR papers and suppressor to get out of ATF prison. 25" OAL tho without the suppressor and should be breddy light.

>>30560583
Looks like shit.

>>30560598
How does one become a nork airborne

>>30560600
Where and for how much? Aeros looks so much better than the other sub $100 alternatives

>>30560567
I almost went with the gold one for full gucci effect.

>>30560622
aero and 110 iirc. i hate the fuck huge A

>>30560598
It's where I'm originally from. If the happening is happening I need to be with the familia, familia. And I got a better job there

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>>30560456

oh I didnt even notice the one was canadian

>>30560600

just get another rainier, maybe a billet one. that rollmark is meh

>>30560622

aero lowers are out of stock pretty much everywhere right now

>>30560634

embrace the A

it looks better irl

>>30560582
RRA sells a2 stock assemblies for like $75. Buy one, and sell the m4 stock to recoupe some of the loss.

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>>30560450
It that in America?

>>30560508
Looks good but replace that stupid stock.
What optic is that?
Gucci BCG.

Does anyone know if there is a large collection/database of ballistics tests and results for different ammo out of different barrel lengths?

Also I'm seriously considering swapping my 10.5" barrel for a 14.5"+Pinned muzzle device and turning the pistol into a rifle.
Any suggestions for a 1.5" muzzle device that has good comp/brake characteristics with a little bit of flash reduction? Also I don't want too much blast to the shooter, I flinch like a bitch already.

Thanks.

>>30560660
Not sure, but maybe levang linear comp

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>>30560610
What rail is that? Is it Keymod?

>>30560622
Aero's are far more aesthetic and much less cringey than Spikes for sure.

>>30560634
The old one definitely looks better than the huge A.

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>>30560651
>just get another rainier, maybe a billet one.
i want to spread my love throughout the land, rainier has got enough from me

>embrace the A
i cant

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>>30560660

fuck if I know. could be new mexico, could be afghanistan. hard to tell. I know that was a training mission that guy touching the other dudes shoulder is some brig gen

>>30560680

EMBRACE THE A

>>30560660
It's a Browe BCO-007. I'd recommend a rainer select barrel, that's what I've got on mine, and it's really nice, SFMB is great but it isn't quiet.

>>30560679
>The old one definitely looks better than the huge A.
you are telling me, that shit is ugly.

>>30560695
i cant and the fact its on both sides just makes it worse.

i emailed that retard from backpage lmao

>>30560695
Looks like the NTTR to me. Probably came out to hang with the 58th and train

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>>30560713

>that shit is ugly
>the fact its on both sides just makes it worse

>>30560720

that makes sense

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>>30560450
I think my local recruiting station fucked up

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>>30560713
I don't think it is ugly, just more of a space gun aesthetic.

Certainly better than Anderson, PSA, Bushmaster, or Spikes.

>>30560675
Noted. There are so many fucking muzzle devices out there.

>>30560711
I'm poor so I'm going with a $100 barrel I found.

Does anyone know if you have to weld the muzzle device as well to be legal on a 14.5"
Or can you just pin it?

>>30560753

top kek thats rich. the national guard website has pics of soldiers with SCARs which is some complete bullshit

>>30560762

you're supposed to pin AND weld it

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Part 1/3

If you need a gun for home defense/and or dangerous happenings, your best bet is an AR15.

Let’s talk about why the AR15 is the BEST option for a SHTF scenario.

The AR15 is the weapon of choice for the US Military and most, if not all US Police forces.

The ammunition (5.56/.223) is extremely common with Every US community, USMIL/POLICE included, and is an accurate, hard hitting round. It is also light, and inexpensive.

The AR15 itself is a truly remarkable design, and is utterly reliable if manufactured correctly. The famed “AR15 is unreliable” saying goes as far back to Vietnam, where the US government attempted to use incorrect powder in early M193 ammunition. This is very wrong, and lead to early M16s not working properly. If the Government had followed the suggested power recommendation, the reputation never would have materialized.

Let’s talk a bit about the AR15s obvious competitor, the AK. The Russians designed a very nice rifle with the AK47, and further improved it into the AKM. But you have to understand that Russia is not allowed to export AKMs to the US anymore, and modern AKs for sale in the US are either Eastern European parts kits (of dubious quality) or brand new US made AKs (of EXTREMLY dubious quality).

Not to mention the fact that the AK is no more reliable than the AR15 in the first place, and its ammunition, the 7.62x39 is a rather anemic cartridge past 300 yards, and has the ballistics of a bowling ball. The AK and its Ammunition is also not used by any sizable US Police Forces, and almost all 7.62x39 ammunition is manufactured overseas, much of it IN RUSSIA, you can see issues with the availability of spare parts and ammunition in a crisis. 5.45 is a good round, but is also rare. INTERNET ORDERS DURING SHTF AREN'T HAPPENING.

I am not suggesting the AK is a bad platform, merely that it is not the best choice for a “Life and Liberty” gun.

Now let's talk about how to actually get an AR15.

>>30560510
CIA GRS

>>30560658
considering magpul fixed carbine stock

30, install on my own, move on with life

suggestions against?

>>30560762
Drill device and barrel, put pin in hole, weld over hole.

>>30560762
i like the old logo, i hate the new one.

>>30560774
Part 2/3

It is highly advisable that you BUILD your AR15, as you save quite a bit of money doing this, and you get to tailor the rifle to your preferences from the beginning.

There are 3 forms of common AR15 builds that you can start with, keep in mind, once you get familiar with the platform, you’ll learn of more, but these require no tinkering to make work.

16” Mid Length, 20” Rifle Length, and 14.5 Carbine Length.

16” Mid Length is what I recommend to those getting a new AR, as it is the minimum legal barrel length to keep your AR considered a rifle, and not a “pistol”(thus allowing you to have a stock without NFA paperwork)

This is a soft shooting and well balanced combination, and is utterly reliable. “Mid Length” refers to the gas system length, with many prebuilt ARs, 16” rifles will simply have a Carbine Length gas system, which is outdated, and increased felt recoil/parts wear.

Here are some good brands to look at when BUILDING an AR. I may leave out some, but any listed here will be QUALITY.

>PSA, BCM, Daniel Defense, Noveske, Midwest Industries, Aero, KAC, LMT, Rainer Arms, and VLTOR

PSA and BCM are considered the best for new shooters because of their milspec quality and affordable price points while providing excellent QC and parts quality.

You should avoid Red Barn, Radical Firearms, and PSA PTAC.

In a Mid Length Rifle, you’ll want a Carbine Buffer.

I recommend new shooters “Build” a rifle by ordering a lower of their choice, and a complete upper. This will eliminate the chance of (you) fucking up a rifle on assembly. Some Complete uppers will still lack BGC and Charging Handles. I personally recommend you stick to “Full Auto, Milspec” BCGs. THIS DOES NOT MAKE THE WEAPON FULL AUTO, IT SIMPLY DENOTES THAT IT “COULD” FIRE FULL AUTO WITH AN AUTO SEAR.

>>30560753
Wait, why are 2 of the 3 pictures Depicting funeral ceremonies? Is it trying to tell people to join up and die?

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>>30560450
I can't wait for my carrier.

Already want a battle belt for more water and more mags. My Army bud is a medic. Maybe he can show me some AFAIK stuff.

Is OD green Magpul furniture as ugly as it looks on their site? Should I get FG instead?

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>>30560785
Part 3/3

Here’s some general advice for all things AR15 related

It is generally a good idea to stick to "Mil-spec" guidelines, or above when building an AR. Everything I recommend will meet or surpass these.

A Lower is a Lower is a Lower. Any Mispec Lower will do the same thing as any other Milspec Lower, if you want to save money, buy an Anderson Stripped Lower and PSA LPK. Milled, Ambi Lowers are not needed for 99% of shooters.

It is a good idea to have 500 rounds of quality, brass case ammo in storage.

M193 is a very good ammo to stockpile, it is cheap (30-35 cpr) and relatively accurate. This is the round the Military used in Vietnam to devastating effect. THERE ARE BETTER ALTERNATIVES FOR SELF DEFENSE, HOWEVER.

1/7 or 1/8 barrel twists is the best because it allows you to stabilize heavier rounds, such as 77g Mk262.

Only buy Magpul mags, Lancer L5 mags, or GI mags with Magpul followers.(Shitty mags are the #1 reason a rifle is unreliable)

All milspec AR parts will be interchangeable, avoid proprietary stuff for convenience.

If you are building the rifle on a budget, don’t worry about fancy things that aren't needed to increase reliability, that money would be better spent on ammo and training. You will always have time to customize the rifle to your liking after your experience grows a bit.

Optics are nice, but not a necessity. DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON OPTICS, AND ALWAYS RUN BUIS(Backup Iron Sights). And no, your $30 dollar ACOG Clone does not outperform your buddies $400 Aimpoint.

If you plan on using this rifle for defense, a weapon mounted light is 100% necessary, bad things happen at night, seriously it’s not mall ninja shit and anyone who has actually used a rifle at night can confirm this.

>>30560679
Rail is a 9.5" Odinworks O2 Lite MLOK, but they also make a keymod compatible version. Thing is light AF, I think it's about 5oz with about 2 oz of hardware. Minus the parts I'm missing, It's sitting at exactly 3lb. Hoping it'll wind up at about 6-6.5lb loaded.

>>30560789
lad it's army recruiting. I don't think they even realize that's what they're showing.

>>30560789
They aren't, the left is of somethings. Not a fallen soldier ceremony because there is a band the right is just a pair of boots on the ground with dog tags in front of them. A fallen soldier cermoney the dog tags are hung from the rifle, not placed in front of the boots.

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>>30560774
>>30560785
>>30560795
Can someone edit these like this?

>>30560781
It would look extremely gay paired with a 20" barrel, but if that's what you want to do live it up.

>>30560791
How did you decide on a carrier. I can't decide.

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>>30560770
Fooey.

>>30560784
The old one is just that, and old school aesthetic a-la 1980s-1990s firearms.

The new one is by far one of the most futuristic looking rollmarks out there. No fucking animals or cannons. Just a symbol. Very meta.

>>30560785
Hey Dan I was meaning to say last night but you should amend the barrel length section to quickly explain that a 14.5 will need a muzzle device to be a non NFA rifle.

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>>30560784

everyones taste is different but I dont get how the large size A triggers you but rainier absolutely covering the right side of their lowers with that giant RAINIER ARMS rollmark doesnt

>>30560791

im personally not a huge fan of battle belts but im the exception to the rule. I also have no ass so thats probably why I dont like them. Source makes a cool 3L bladder and pouch system that attaches to the back of the carrier but I've opted for a very streamlined carrier and then my water and everything else in a pack.

what IFAK questions do you have

Does anybody have any info about the Individual Carbine competition? Which weapon systems performed well? Which ones tanked?

>>30560822
Part 2/3

It is highly advisable that you BUILD your AR15, as you save quite a bit of money doing this, and you get to tailor the rifle to your preferences from the beginning.

There are 3 forms of common AR15 builds that you can start with, keep in mind, once you get familiar with the platform, you’ll learn of more, but these require no tinkering to make work.

16” Mid Length, 20” Rifle Length, and 14.5 Carbine Length(14.5” will require a pinned muzzle device to meet the legal 16” limit”)

16” Mid Length is what I recommend to those getting a new AR, as it is the minimum legal barrel length to keep your AR considered a rifle, and not a “pistol”(thus allowing you to have a stock without NFA paperwork)

This is a soft shooting and well balanced combination, and is utterly reliable. “Mid Length” refers to the gas system length, with many prebuilt ARs, 16” rifles will simply have a Carbine Length gas system, which is outdated, and increased felt recoil/parts wear.

Here are some good brands to look at when BUILDING an AR. I may leave out some, but any listed here will be QUALITY.

>PSA, BCM, Daniel Defense, Noveske, Midwest Industries, Aero, KAC, LMT, Rainer Arms, and VLTOR

PSA and BCM are considered the best for new shooters because of their milspec quality and affordable price points while providing excellent QC and parts quality.

You should avoid Red Barn, Radical Firearms, and PSA PTAC.

In a Mid Length Rifle, you’ll want a Carbine Buffer.

I recommend new shooters “Build” a rifle by ordering a lower of their choice, and a complete upper. This will eliminate the chance of (you) fucking up a rifle on assembly. Some Complete uppers will still lack BGC and Charging Handles. I personally recommend you stick to “Full Auto, Milspec” BCGs. THIS DOES NOT MAKE THE WEAPON FULL AUTO, IT SIMPLY DENOTES THAT IT “COULD” FIRE FULL AUTO WITH AN AUTO SEAR.

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>>30560836
Mt. Rainier is aesthetic af m8

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>>30560821
Plate carrier or bolt carrier?

Psi has a handy image of all the carriers which aren't bottom barrel.

I honestly went for the cheapest one on the list.
I was looking at this $70 Condor for a minute but then Nutnfancy said that it wasn't stout enough to hold more than 3 mags so I nope'd the fuck out and went with an AWS for $150.

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>>30560861

they'd be better if it was just the mountain rollmark on the left and nothing on the right. shits too busy on the right side of the lower

>>30560869

here

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>>30560821
you want my unused rare US Marshall LBT? only $300

>>30560869
PC. Kek. I had been leaning to the aws also.
-the other hardened arms guy

Is 18'' barrel and 20'' barrel a big difference in terms of recoil impulse and velocity of bullet at muzzle?

>>30560875
ehh i think they did a good job of spacing shit out on the right. i like how the left is blank except selector markings

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>>30560836
Yeah I'm thinking of keeping the the back of my carrier clear so that I can wear a pack. That rock or something patch is righteous.

>AFAIK
>IFAK
I promise I'm not actually as stupid as I come off.

Honestly I have no clue even where to start. Don't worry about it though man, I'm sure my Army friend can school me.

>>30560850
Nice.

>>30560861
Posting my Aero rollmark to condition you.

>>30560880

already trying to out of gear?

>>30560897

no

20" Barrel:
*Average Velocity: 3058 fps
*Average Energy: 1142 ft/lbs
*ES: 111 fps
*SD: 31 fps

18" Barrel:
*Average Velocity: 2996 fps
*Average Energy: 1096 ft/lbs
*ES: 130 fps
*SD: 40 fps
*Barrel Length Reduction from 20": 10%
*Energy Loss from 20": 04%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98VXY77F690

>>30560909

different strokes. I still think Mega has one of the best rollmarks for the price of their lowers. KAC rollmark objectively GOAT

>>30560880
Too rich for my BAC

>>30560918
later tonight I'll edit it all together and meme it up.

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>>30560406
o-operate

How does a 14.5" carbine with a ta31 acog sound for hitting steel in the 200-500y range? Should be more than capable, right?

>>30560926
neat thank you very much

>>30560926
>KAC rollmark objectively GOAT
i agree, ap15 is num 2

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>>30560885
Off Psi's list the Mayflower, Shellback Banshee, and 5.11 Tac Tec looked good.

Get the AWS so we can confirmation bias together.

Actually naw you should probably shop around. I impulse bought mine because it was 2am and /pol/ had me hyped on Dallas.

>>30560897
Recoil impulse is a larger function of gas system length, muzzle device, and weapon weight.
Barrel length by its lonesome doesn't contribute.

There is a rule of thumb relating muzzle velocity to barrel length. I think 100fps per 1"
It isn't actually linear though, and it varies by ammunition.

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>>30560918

I didnt even notice until you mentioned it.

bare minimum IFAK should be 2 TQ, 2 or 3 israeli bandages, some gauze, and trauma shears. celox or quikclot is good to have, but not the powder quikclot.

obviously you can go crazy from there, I'm looking to buy a laryngoscope and blades, ET tubes, etc. I found a BVM recently. Also want to get some saline and lines but thats pretty fucking advanced and would only ever be used in true, hardcore SHTF on a close friend or loved one.

>Posting my Aero rollmark to condition you.

lel

>>30560938

np

>>30560950

someday I'll impulse buy an SR15

>>30560971

>not buying an LBT because muh navee seeels

>not buying mas grey because you want to never find any pouches in mas grey spare super overpriced shit on ebay

>>30560971
Thanks for narrowing it done a little for my research. Didn't want to watch 31 10 minute youtubes trying to put on their shit.

>>30560997
Where's the whiskey, bone saw, and wooden spoon?

>>30561024

thats in my IFAK when I go 18th century operating, along with some laudanum and a blood letting dish

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>>30560604
I don't have buyers remorse ;_;

>>30560611
That's no way to talk to your father

I bought a picture. I'll post it later.

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>>30560997
Hmm that'll probably be the next priority for the plate carrier. It seems like very important stuff to have.

>>30561005
This convinced me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pL0uX6gpJ0

I need to get off my ass, make food, and hit the woods.

Enjoy your Saturday guys.

>>30561087
Cool. Cya later operator

>>30560885
AWS is a good choice you wont be upset with it.

>>30560918
yeah man keep you back panel clear unless you know for a fact you will not be wearing a pack.

>>30561087

see ya homes

BLM is doing a march here Monday at 6...

>>30561201

BLM in detroit announced yesterday was "black friday" and are apparently assembling again tonight

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>>30561201
You know what to do

>>30561230

>knife worth almost as much as the handgun
>dip

redneck/10

>>30561243
The Ruger was a gift nigger, I can't get rid of it and the Knife is more functional.

There is literally nothing wrong with Dip.

>>30561269

except for the whole cancer thing

>nigger

no u

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>>30561276
Red Meat causes cancer

>>30561283

a lot slower, and colon cancer is merely an inconvenience if you get regular colonoscopies while tongue and gum cancer is a fucking nightmare

>>30561201
shoot them

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>>30561298
I'm still going to dip.

Smoking is noko tho, although a nice cigar is nice.

>>30561230
>cope southern blend

monica

>>30561276
at least no one can get cancer from second hand smokeless tobacco

>>30561320
>at least no one can get cancer from second hand smokeless tobacco
this and it doesnt smell.

>>30561316
>>30561320
>>30561336

>quit tobacco
>have more money for AR parts and ammo
>live longer

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>>30561407
i dont use any tobacco product but if i had to pick be to be around it would be dip.

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>>30561407
>spending all of you money on guns

I've lived that life for a while bro and it got old man.

>>30561429
Here at 6 dollars a can its a kick in the dick. also I found that thread. Im dying, who ever named it R2dindu is a god.

>>30561484
>Here at 6 dollars a can its a kick in the dick
is that a lot?

that thread is golden

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>>30561520
yes down in dixie land its about 2.75 for what I usually get.

>>30561224
Figures

>>30561230
>>30561309
Be watching the news friends

I would never commit any crimes though :^

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>>30560406
Block II a best

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>>30561582

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>>30561593

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>>30561616

>>30561484

>spending all your money on guns

never lived that life. I have rent and bills to pay nevermind that I just bought a car.

>>30561653
what kind of car

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Anybody know what to expect with STAG's blem lowers?

>>30561653
>spending all your disposable income on guns

better?

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>>30561653
Does the better pistol make it better?

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>>30561683
i spend all my money on guns, used to spend it on my car and speeding tickets but it's just not as fun anymore.

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>>30561698
>speeding

You double nigger

>>30561705
>not having fun
pansy

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>>30561665

pic

>>30561683

yeah. my gf complains enough about how much money I spend on gun stuff

>>30561684

for some reason I'm not too fond of the 938 which is weird as fuck because I like 1911's but they're nice guns

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>>30561713
>putting other people's life at risk

Faggot

>find a importer lgs in state
>$299 for 1 firearm
rip

>>30561716
buy her a purse or something and she will shut up

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>>30561716
What should I do next?

>>30561717
>empty roads puts others at risk
>being an alert and attentive driver puts others at risk
you need to worry about sally mc.gottatext and not me.

bitch nigger

>>30561726

I built her a rifle and bought her some backpacking stuffs

>>30561728

ammo. thats not a bad line up of guns. i need a scattergat

>>30561679
Purely cosmetic

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post recent acquisitions

>>30561757

just did >>30561716

waiting on new rail and MBT

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>>30561757

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>>30561757

>>30561760
im going to get another mbt for my pistol

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>>30561743
I'm ok if it's safe when you do it

Texting and driving makes me so fucking mad though

Gaylord

>>30561757
I like the metal 10 rounders

Did you aquire a better job yet you quadruple nigger?

>>30560582
Muhreens have been sticking m16a4 uppers on m4/m4a1 lowers for years, and the syrup C7(?) is set up that way as standard.

>>30561767

I'm getting pretty impatient for my rail and trigger to arrive. mostly because once I install the two I think I'll be able to leave my one AR alone for a while

>>30560558
Where at in STL? Unincorporated near the jeffco line here, could use range buddy

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>>30561757
Not sure what to do with it

>>30561698
>just not as fun anymore

thats where I am with guns, my current rifle is nothing to write home about but its solid, has a good optic, and everything else on it is decent. currently its all sitting at under 1K and it will more or less stay that way.

>>30561716
yeah man, after I my last rifle built I started getting into other hobbies and enjoyed spending money on other things. Mainly Mountain Biking and Archery (both are just as big of money pits.)

>>30561794
sell it as a non blem

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>>30561794
Gib

>>30561787
What trigger?

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>>30561757
>this will be the most expensive thing itt
The original ahsalt riffle

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>>30561757
muh mro

>>30561802
Kek, I thought about it. It would absolutely pass.

>>30561810
How much? No Gibbz.....err, maybe for a Gibbz

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>>30561799

I've been getting more and more into backpacking, transitioning away from more contemporary camping. It's not an expensive hobby in the long run per say but getting into it is pricey especially if you have gucci taste.

>Archery

noice. I just shoot a 35 pound long bow and a 45 pound recurve every now and then. both wooden bows, its pretty fun.

>>30561818

MBT

>>30561822

MRO
R
O

>>30561819
>some uggo AF flintlock pea-shooter

>Psssssshshh

Is she yours though?

>>30561839
How's it even blem anyways?
>buying the Gibbz next

>>30561840
>MBT

Do you have experience with them? I've thought about trying one. All I've ever messed with was mil spec, mil spec with some work, and CMC. Hated the CMC. How does it compare to guys Lee?

>>30561858
>How's it even blem anyways?

No idea

>>30561819

is that original? is it a henry or winchester? I dont know much about 19th century guns, forgive me. more about 18th and 20th. How much?

>>30561858

>flintlock
>pea shooter

kys

>>30561861

this will be my first MBT. ask pb and qb swear by them, basically a more affordable SSA-E without sacrificing quality

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>>30561757
shims and gauges in the mail, picking up the receiver tomorrow. cz75 could use a new extractor and spring

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>>30561874
Maybe somewhere minute on the finish?
Maybe a small burr?
There's gotta be something

>>30561882
>not detecting the obvious bantz
See pic

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>>30561782
Not yet
>mfw spent 220 dollars in the last 15 hours
>mfw make 10 dollars an hour

>>30561819
Cool

>>30561882
>this will be my first MBT. ask pb and qb swear by them, basically a more affordable SSA-E without sacrificing quality

Great to hear. Did you go the $125 route? How long is that wait?

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>>30561887

>>30561858
Yes, for $4800 she was mine
>flintlock
Not quite, though she was originally bp. .38-40.

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>>30561751
i figured that much, kek.

was really just asking to see if anyone here has ever used one of their blem lowers could advise what to expect (finish inconsistencies, ugly milling marks/scaring, etc.) especially at the relatively higher price point at which they offer them compared to others.

thanks anyway though.

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>>30561889
>>30561897
See pic

>>30561899
Wow.

>>30561887
>Maybe somewhere minute on the finish?
>Maybe a small burr?
>There's gotta be something

If there is it's definitely not enough to matter. Thank god for Bill Geisseles autism.

>>30561882
Original winchester 1892. Serial puts it made around 1909. $4800, which is a hell of a lot less than it's worth. Got a damn good deal on it.

>>30561895

I did go the $125 route. pb waited 2.5 months for his but larue is saying 3 week lead time right now. they make them in batches so I'm sure they're making a big batch from all the july 4th sales

>>30561904

(you)

>>30561907
Yerp.

>>30561917
No, (you)

>>30561899
>this will be the most expensive thing itt
>most expensive thing itt
>$4800 she was mine
kek

as of now, this >>30561716 is the most expensive think in this thread

>>30561926
wait, the helicopter is the most expensive thing itt

>>30561794
What is the line leading off furthest back mlok slot? It seems to end on the word 'wales'.

>>30561889
>mfw spent over $8000 in the last 36 hours
2 model 92s, 120rds of .30-40krag, a collectible pre-1900 box of .25-20, 6 boxes of 150gr barnes .30cal bullets, and 50rds of .38-40
>still have just shy of $4000 left in my budget for this show

>>30561940
just the handgaurd thickening up toward the barrel nut

>>30561949
What do you do for work

>>30561926
Let me rephrase. It will be the most expensive recently acquired gun itt.

And I'm trying to sell a '76 worth more than that car.

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>>30561964
Buy and sell antique/collectible guns

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>>30561963
Mine is consistent on the 13". How long is the rail?

>>30561981
Cool

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>>30561916

very cool. pic related is the oldest gun I own, tho not nearly as valuable as that winchester

>>30561970

76 what

>>30561840
Compound familam. killed many pigs

>>30560406
How bad is it to torque barrel nuts to 70ft-lbs?

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>>30561987
It's a 15" mk4

>>30561861
i like the mbt more than my ssa-e

>>30562005
Huh. Never noticed that difference

>>30562002
bad, stay as close to 50ft/lbs as possible

>>30561992
No but seriously, I'm retired and have no real expenses outside of guns and I love the aesthetics of the 1886, 1892, 1895, and model 71 Winchesters so I collect them. My 92 collection is almost complete, just missing a .25-20 trapper and a .44-40 deluxe octagon rifle with button mag

>>30561999

I figured as much, I shoot wood bows because autism and because I reenact

>>30562023
Sweet. I'm definitely going to try one I suppose. I've had probably 4 people on here tell me they are great and cheap.....relatively speaking

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>>30561995
1876 winchester. Pic related.

>>30562030
> just missing a .25-20 trapper and a .44-40 deluxe octagon rifle with button mag
Same here

>>30562024
I don't know. That may very well be the blem. I can't compare to the other side at the moment.

>>30562047
well compared to guyslee they are cheap

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>>30562024
Looks like they're supposed to be that way. Seems like it's only on the m lok version though

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>>30562079
Damn that looks nice

>>30562057

>$19,750
>firm

fug man. although my car is still worth more than that :^)

but not by much

>>30562079
Nice

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mfw cant decide to build the mk12 or pistol first

>>30562057
Oh, also
>Sergei Mosin was a thieving nigger that straight up copied the 1885 Hotchkiss rifle
Wonder how all the nuggetboos would feel knowing it's a JMB design

>>30562101
And I'll get it, too.

>>30562125

I believe it. I've seen original flintlocks sell for less than that but the cowboy culture is strong. cool shit man, what else you got?

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Just took this slut shooting. The MBT is a really great trigger., if you have doubts, just do it.

>>30562133
Buncha shit, but the only other thing I had for sale was an 1895 deluxe in .38-72 that had been refinished at some point. Gorgeous but incorrect, sold it for a significant loss. Got $7100 for it yesterday.

>>30562036
fair enough I've used a recurve as a ow fishing rig.

>>30562025
but what if the holes only line up at ~30 and ~70?

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>>30562111
how did you get those pics from the DPD ?

>>30562208
Either shim it or torque it to 70.

Aero nuts say they can be torqued to 90 in the instructions.

>>30562208
70

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>>30562220
rare leaked pics senpai, do not steal.

>>30562231
>>30562259
when do the threads start to strip on milspec uppers?

>>30561885
>Galil guts exposed

I always wondered if they copied AK internals or not. Now I know.

Love how the mag is like the bastard lovechild of an AR GI mag and AK steelie.

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>>30562101
If you wanna shit yourself, take a look at Rock Island Auctions.

Heres a pic of one of their seven racks here.

I get nice stuff as a rule but ultimately I can't play in the big leagues.

>>30562268
Carl Johnson?

>>30562302
If you greased it well, they wont.

>>30562341
i dont follow

>>30562302
100+

>>30562378
>>30562391
thanks. What effect will it have on barrel harmonics? I heard in a bolt action, you want it as tight as you can get it without stripping the threads - if so, why does the manual only call for 35-70?

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>>30562268

fucking memes

>>30562330

christ those prices. the only thing I think I'll ever shell out that much dosh for is some nazi shit.

>>30562406
unless you are shooting .25moa 5rd groups, you will see no effect between 30-100ft/lbs

>>30562410
kek thats a good pic.

i need to make a target stand for paper targets, what do ya fags recommend

>>30562428
A cardboard box with some rocks in it.

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>>30562428

>go to home depot
>acquire wood

i used some drywall and some 2x4's once in a pinch

>>30560406
Are Elzetta lights well regarded? Thinking about picking up the Elzetta minicqb

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My pistol is almost finished. Just need a BCG and some sights.

I've been poking around in gear queer threads a while, and I haven't gotten much of a response. I'm starting to look at plate carriers. I'm thinking of getting a condor MOPC since it seems to be an entry level PC that even condor couldn't fuck up. I'm open to suggestions for baby's first PC though.

>>30562406
Assuming everything is squared up and true it has no effect at all (bolt or semi).

For most guns the difference is somewhere between negligible and unnoticeable.

Your high end benchrest boltguns are not torqued very hard, 25-40 lb-ft. And they hold just fine because the receiver face and barrel shoulder are absolutely square. I have a switchbarrel rifle that's half MOA capable and I only screw the barrels in hand tihht, ~15is ft lbs.

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>>30562439
nah i want something like pic related. multiple paper targets

>>30562444
yee ill do that tomorrow

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>>30562111
This is the USofmotherfuckingA, build both.

>>30562454

>PC that even condor couldn't fuck up

believe me, condor can fuck up a PC. if they can manage to make shitty pouches you better believe they could make a shit PC, and they do.

see >>30560875

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>>30561684
where in detroit are you? whats a good range

>>30562475
then build exactly that. 4x4 posts for the legs, use 2x4's to build feet, then connect your two with 2x4's exactly as your pic shows. Then you can use a stapler to put targets on it and cheap to repair. At most you'll be replacing your longer 2x4's only after they've been shot a million times.

>>30562492
fuck off milo

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>>30562504

>>30562492

there are no gun ranges in Detroit.

top gun in taylor is ok, so is firearm exchange in livonia. action impact in eastpointe is probably the most convenient if you legit live IN detroit but its clientele is sketchy as fuck

>>30562476
eventually

>>30562489
is legit kit sold out

>>30562502
thats the plan. i will post it tomorrow once its done

>>30562520
>buy two of everything at a time

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>>30562514
>action impact
isn't that in southfield? yeah i imagine it must be full of mommas

>>30562521
well the pistol cannot be finished until i find a lower

>>30562520

is legit kit sold out of what

>>30562522

they have one in southfield, one in eastpointe. what side of detroit do you live on

>>30562536
west

>>30562111
Mk12 mod 0 or death

>>30562540

firearm exchange is probably the closest for you then, or action impact southfield. i like that FX has a cleaning room

>>30562536
the Marshall carriers

>>30562543
o-ok anon

>>30562454
Mayflower apc

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>>30562557
i go to the firing line and center mass

>>30562583
uhh where are your irons

>>30562595
point shooting course

>>30562598
oh. how did ya do

>>30562595
>he needs sights to aim

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>>30562574

i thought they sold out months ago

check out this deal tho, not too bad

>>30562583

firing line blows and what kind of communist heathen shoots without irons or at least an optic

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>>30562603
it was at 7 yards.

>>30562607
>needs

>>30562626
I'm sorry but that does not answer my question.

>>30562610
>firing line blows
okay Micah johnson

Hey guys, looking to pick up a standard 16" mid-length complete upper to finish my build, should i just grab a psa or aero or are there other brands worth looking at?

>>30562636
40% hit ratio, (vert line)

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>>30562637

>going to westland by choice

>if you dont like this whiskey tango range you're a nigger

>>30562640
Not for the money, but BCM and DD would be options.

Aero uses the most accurate barrels of the lot.

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>backpage guy said he wont sell just the lower
all is lost

>>30562695

how much does he want for the rifle? you could part it out on armslist during election panic and maybe even turn a profit

>>30562705
900. no way to turn a profit

>>30562324
it'll take an akm trigger and hammer, as for the mag, it's shit. atleast a pound unloaded and the spring is really weak

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>>30562711

>$900

what a fucking joke

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>>30562743
yeah, the only thing worth money is the lower. its probably shot to shit with steel cased and never cleaned

>>30562764

is...is he wearing a north face patch

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>>30560406
What should I get next for this rifle?

I don't suppose any of you are in 270?

>>30562772
No it says hey fuck face or something like that

>I know

>>30562764
What kind of lower is it?

>>30562772
think it says "Hey Fuck Face"

>>30562772
think its a meme fuck face or something

>>30562781
Aero AP 15

>>30562692
Aero it is then, are there any sites that sells their stuff cheaper than they do?

>>30562774
270 fucking sucks, sorry ky bro

>>30562774
Optic

>>30562774
>A trash can to start over

gj on the forward assist assist and the paint btw, looks like you put 1,000x more effort in than others

>>30562804
Occasionally Rainier. Surplusammo deals in their barrels but selection is thin.

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>mfw buy frank proctor sling

>>30562779
>>30562784
>>30562786

That's worse

Budget single stage trigger that's better than garbage that came in my lpk?

>>30562839
>mfw you still don't have a better job

It's gonna be daily from here out senpai.

>>30562846
ACT

>>30562774
>buys a freefloat handguard
>its barely longer than a drop in
Why?

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>>30562848
Post your AR... Oh wait... that's right

>>30562848
>>30562872
savage

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>>30562866
How about one longer than the barrel?

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>>30562848
>>30562872

BTFO

>>30562822
Trying to decide what to paint my 300blk pistol as we speak. I have plenty of Aervoe earth color but I'm thinking about green

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>watching nutn' video
>talking about groups
>expect to see his usual bs 3rds
>now it's 4rds
god damn it he triggers my autism.

>>30562947
Look outside, use that color

>>30562967
>god damn it he triggers my autism.

Why?

>>30562982
So does giddy live in a sewer or india

>>30562990
i live in your apartment, silly

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>>30560634
>>30560651
I like the A, kinda reminds me of pic-related

>>30560774
>7.62x39 is a rather anemic cartridge past 300 yards
>what is mosin nagant

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Finished, anything wrong with it?

>>30562990
what's the difference

>>30563015
>>what is mosin nagant

That's 7.62x54mm you idiot.

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>>30563015

>>30563015
u cereal?

>>30562990
sewage does not look like that

>>30563026
India does.

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>>30563015

>>30563017
I like how it's now one post I can ignore instead of three

Should I use M16 zeroing target, or M4?

http://www.bobdbob.com/~deneb/doc/targets/

>>30563090
no, the bullets won't do proper damage

Any tips for how to install the roll pins for the bolt catch and trigger guard, /k/? They're being pains and I don't want to damage anything while doing it.

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>>30563105
>no, the bullets won't do proper damage

Fuck you and your mom, Giddy.

>>30563120
Cover everything in painters tape and use vice grips

>>30563032
i guess that settles it then. giddy is from india

Looks like something else might be happening in Dallas

>>30563120
>roll pins for the bolt catch
painters tape

>trigger guard
support the ears or else it will break

>>30563136
Indiana also looks like that.

>>30563142
what now