AR THREAD GENERAL AR GENERAL /ARG/

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>>30525371
what optic should i get, no more than 4x magnification

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>>30525371
In for Troy quite literally setting the fire at Waco themselves and then conducting the 9/11 attacks 8 years later to celebrate.

Gotta say the few things I've tried from Troy were pretty solid, 8/10 would plink with again.

>>30525389
Kek

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>>30525386
ACOG
C
O
G

>>30525420
>ACOG
Are those any good?

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need another set of magpul pros

>>30525428
no, they are shit

>>30525386
get a nightforce 1-6

>>30525420
Noted, will do some reading on it.
>>30525465
I've heard good things of NF.

>>30525428
They're overpriced, but they are 10/10 utilitarian optics.

PROS:
-Very good to great glass quality
-Built like tanks
-Lots of reticles, magnification levels, design features to choose from
-Resale value tends to hold for a good while
-Usually ships with a mount that works well enough to not HAVE to switch

Cons:
-eyelash-tier eye relief on the 4x models
-overpriced by $300-$600

>>30525465
>Nightforce
>1-6
NF is still based as fuck

>>30525490
Are there any viable alternatives to an ACOG that aren't crazy overpriced?

I know...
>Good
>Cheap
>Pick one

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>>30525371
Are KAC receivers this shiny? Seems dumb.

>>30525524
PA Prism scopes have been talked up by a ton of people.

There are a lot of good varibles for less than 1000

>>30525524
short answer is not really, but it depends on what features you want

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>>30525533
Did they put some shit on it to take make it shiny for the photos?

>>30525543
Those look really nice

>>30525533
its just the photo, if youll notice, everything but the stock is shiny too

>>30525401

You are talking about shit from 72 years ago and trying to apply it in context to the modern age.

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>>30525533
yes

>>30525524
Honestly everything I've had that would compete with the ACOG has been a low power variable and they don't stick around long on account of being bulky/heavy for 4x.

That and lots of the same people who talk about how utilitarian the 1-4x or 1-6x optics are have a red dot or reflex offset for their 1x shooting.

Magnifiers are literal hot garbage and should not be mentioned.

I'm sure someone makes some much cheaper but still reliable fixed 4x optics.


opticsplanet.com

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in

I think for now I'm just going to swap my DD sights back onto the rifle, since I've got more important stuff than more sights to spend dollars on.

>>30525548
Magnification somewhere from 2.5x to 4x
Not worrying about it shaking apart or busting itself on a drop.
Holds zero

>>30525543
PA is Primary Arms, right? They look like they have some good options for 250-350, for me.

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>>30525428
>>30525524
I believe ACOGs are kinda out dated personally thinck theyd be good but the price is a little much

ACCUPOWERs and ACCUPOINTs are a much better alternative

>Source
I've used both extensively

>>30525596
*I personally think they'd

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>>30525596
acog w/rmr is better than 1-x

>source
i only own an acog

I'm about to get myself the PA 1-6x with the fancy reticle

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>>30525645
Keep trying to justify your 2000 dollar optic that can be out preformed by a 800 dollar scope :^

>>30525596
I got turned off by one of the first or second gen 1.25-4x accupoints and their absolutely retarded choice of triangle-on-top-of-two-black-vertical-lines reticle.

I appreciate how simple, compact, lightweight and resilient the ACOGs are.

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>>30525677
Picture was supposed to be related.

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>>30525371
What do you think the chances are that Vortex would color one of their other 1-4 or 1-6 scopes the same as their razor? I'd obviously offer to pay extra

>>30525650
I've thought about getting one as well

>>30525720
Zero percent chance

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>>30525700
You literally bought the worst one they make

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>>30525677

trijicon makes a bunch of reticles, dont get all pathsofglory about trijicon

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>wake up last Saturday and start browsing deal sites
>order roll pin punch set from Academy that's $12.99
>regular price is $49.99
>obvious price mistake but w/e
>order a pmag as well for free shipping
>check email this morning and find the the order shipped!
>...minus the roll pin punch set

REEEEEEEEE

Fucking faggots didn't even tell me it was back-ordered or they couldn't honor the price. I want all my shit, not just the over priced magazine you fuckers.

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>>30525756
Don't open the box and send it back.

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here is a better pic of blem rail

>>30525789
2/10

>>30525789
Umm, is there even anything wrong with it?

More pics?

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>>30525779

those dust covers you got are terrible.

>>30525789

>geissele gucci operator tier bubble wrap

>>30525799
The blems are basically perfect
Seems like so far they are just tiny imperfections in the finish you have to hunt for.

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>>30525798
;_;

>>30525799
Not that I can find.

>>30525800
Can't risk scratching my blem rail on the wood

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>>30525800
That everything you got is terrible

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>>30525669
#nolevers
#liftyourheadupasmidge
#lightweight

>>30525789
Pic of blemish?

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>>30525825

objectively false.

i also dont have the gun version of a bumper sticker on my rifle you sperg

>>30525823
the blemish is that it's made out of cheese

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>>30525846
can't find any

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do you guys like my pics?(not the gun)

>>30525853
you also don't have cool guns worth advertising on your other guns, you pleb

>>30525857
that's some expensive cheese

>>30525779

I'm going to wait and see if they ever plan on sending me the punch set. If not or it's going to take a more than a week or two I'm going to the store near me to give them shit and get my refund and then some.

>>30525823

looks like a bit of paint over spray on the front most T marking.

>>30525880
And stinky

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>>30525878

I also didnt spend 6k on a gun that struggles to get 3 MOA either

>>30525905

Both your guns look like cheap plastic

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>>30525880
>expensive
not even close

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kirkland-Signature-Aged-24-Months-Whole-Wheel-Parmigiano-Reggiano-Cheese-BULK-/222131002499?hash=item33b80a1c83:g:MYwAAOSwT4lWTRY~

>>30525905
>3moa

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>>30525905
>3moa

>>30525922
>>30525932

nice, all you had to do was max out your credit cards to get there

>>30525894
ill have to look once im done taking a shit

>>30525922
jesus

>>30525918
Actually both of his rifles look very practical. Not much plastic on either rifle

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>>30525949
or just shoot until the burrs were gone

it's ok to be jelly, senpai

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>>30525949
You're sounding awful jelly, m8.

Would this mount be a good choice for the Primary Arms 1-6x?

http://www.primaryarms.com/ap210200/p/ap210200/

>>30525669
holy shit sig makes optics?

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>>30525977
that is not the gif I thought it was

>>30525371
>badass pic
>Harley T shirt
nice. want that shirt and not even a white biker

>>30525961

sure, friend

>>30525977

nah its just banter, everybody gets it eventually.

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>>30525749
>>30525752
TIDF please go.

Seriously though, I don't think those reticles were even an option when I had that one. Everything I saw was the same shit reticle with your choice of red, green or amber.

Not saying they are shit optics, I just don't want another one, or any low power variable for that matter.

>>30525980

yes

>>30526028

no company is without its faults. are you in the market for an optic right now?

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>>30526018


Anon needs our help guys!

>>30526028
did you strip that guN?

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>>30526062
who cares

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now i can see around corners

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>>30526098

>>30525524
If you want a fixed power prism, options are pretty thin.
>PA and Bushnell prisms are 80% as good for 30% the monies
>Browe is basically a battery powered ACOG, same quality and price

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>>30526087
What happened to your KMR?
What is the barrel length on that?

Hey guys what do you think is the cheapest I can change my 10.5" pistol to a 14.5"+muzzle device?

Any links on a cheap 14.5" barrel?

>>30526062
Fuck him

>>30526098
Kek

>>30526183
Tired of not having a stock on it?

14.5+MD will be more than an internet trust + form 1, I think.

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what optic to get for pistol?

>>30526262
MRO
R
O

>>30526183
Pinning the muzzle device? Adco charges $30, Ranier $40, and a local shop I go to does it for $45. Pretty standard price anywhere should not be more than $50 unless you have some fucked up exotic arrangement of parts

>>30526262
>pistol
?

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>>30525371
I'm the guy from the /ARG/ /AKG/ /BRG/ thread so I'll run down my situation again so you all can help me make the right choice for an AR.

>Virginia
>Rural mostly forest, with some swamps, and farmland and the occasional clustered town.
>Ammo and magazines are no issue because I can get some for free from family stockpile.
>I get the $1,000 around next month but if I wait longer I can get much more every month but I will most likely be to driven to buy a gun in winter. capping around $2,500 which is when ill buy no matter what.
>keeping deer out of my property
>keeping niggers at bay (long story but to sum it up their is a house down the road filled with niggers who sell drugs and they have started cutting through my property and when doing so threatened my family and being drug dealers I believe one day they may try something)
>Plinking
>Bragging rights and being able to say this is my raifu.
>Having something for SHTF plan on making bug out bag and plan soon.

>>30526262
Elcan spectre

>>30526284
building a pistol with the guysnamedlee rail

>>30525524

Nothing of comparable quality. Even Vortex squeezed out a stinker with the lackluster spitfire.

The closest you'll get for less is a Browe sport optic for $800 or their acog clone for $900

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Browe-BCO-006B-ADM-Combat-Optic-4x32mm-7-62-Crosshair-Blue-Reticle-American-Def-/121736763976?hash=item1c58139a48:g:HWAAAOSwubRXLMeu

In any case, in my opinion you're better off with a quality 1-4x or 1-6x

>>30526304
:DDDD

>>30525371
>have almost a dozen handguns and bolt action rifles
>tfw want to get into semi auto rifles but intimated by how complicated ARs seem

Any /k/ approved resources where I can go learn them inside and out? I'm planning on building my first one in a month from an 80% lower...or should I just buy an M&P15 and learn the platform better first?

>>30526295
Everyone here builds 14.5" or 16" rifles to start off with.

On a 16" rifle, which is honestly the most balanced AR15 style, you should run a Midlength gas system.

>>30526305
get an mro

>>30526037
How do I know if the rings are the correct distance apart?

>>30526340
it is very easy to assemble an AR

here is what i used for the lower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1omm6jY7Gg

>>30526357
thats what i was thinking, need to find one local to look at

>>30526295
>soon.
stopped reading there, kys

>>30526295
May I add the niggers are biggest problem they have been fucking with my pussy brothers due to us all being mixed breed. (Italian American/African American)

>>30525918

KYS

>>30526388
why?

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>>30525524
elcan

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>>30526207
Actually not haha, I like the brace just fine. I'm more concerned these days with terminal ballistics out of the 10.5" and the barrel that is in there is a cheaper on anyway. I'm considering re-barreling both my ARs from 10.5" and 16" to 14.5"+MD and an 18" for better terminal ballistics with M193 and other commonly available ammunition. The 14.5+MD with stock collapsed actually should be around the same overall length as my 10.5" since the Shockwave doesn't adjust easily for obvious reasons.


14.5"+MuzzleD should bring the barrel to 16", then I shouldn't need a form 1.


>>30526270
Sweet $45, thanks for the info man. Any idea how much a shop charges to swap a barrel? I'm pretty sure I can reuse the gas tube and block from the 10.5" if I get a carbine length 14.5"

Should I just buy a vice and tools to do it myself since I'm considering re-barreling my 16" to an 18" also?

>>30526295
Hey man!

Are you planning on eventually having a second AR? I originally was planning on just one rifle, so I got a 16", but in hindsight I wish I had built that first one with the second in mind.

With the election on the horizon don't underestimate the importance of several thousands rounds of ammo and a bunch of magazines. I'm at thirty or so 30 rounders.

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>>30526429
>that reticle

It's useless on anything but a SAW

>>30526262

MRO or T2

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>>30525371
Dead babies are fun.
Know what isn't fun though?

Neck injuries. That's not fun.

>>30526484
works absolutely fine

>>30526440
Gotcha.
I'm considering rebarreling my 20" to 18" to shorten it up a little, and to make it lighter.
You could just rebarrel to 14.5 and keep the brace, then form 1 it, that's what I'd do I think.
Or form 1 then get a 14.5 once I get the stamp.

Is there any downside to not having any finish what so ever on a lower receiver? Just got an 80% from anderson and i could have sworn that i ordered an anodized one but i guess not.

Any suggestions on an affordabe finish? I was thinking alumi hyde

>>30525820
>>30525823
>Not that I can find

Fuck yes. I'm so goddamn happy. A $400 rail for half and it's almost impeccable because Bill Geissele is an autist.

How do you like the ddc color you ended up with?

>>30526440
>I'm pretty sure I can reuse the gas tube and block from the 10.5" if I get a carbine length 14.5"
Assuming it's a 7" carbine gas system most 10.5 barrels have then yes should be no problem.

Why don't you just disassemble the upper yourself? It's not terribly difficult. I'd guess most shops wouldn't charge any more than doing a blind pin. Adco has upper disassembly for $40

https://www.adcofirearms.com/shopservices/

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>>30525669
Since when have ACOGS been 2k?
>>30526262
I like my Comp M2

>>30526385
I'm going to watch all of that guys videos on AR15s now. Thanks anon.

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>>30526429
>M145
>anime

>>30526376
And what about height? I'm new to scopes and shit, should I just trust you guys and buy it?

>>30525823
The blemish might be the bottom screw hole on the left side, if your looking down the rail.

The edge of that hole looks rough and not smooth.

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>>30525524
Maybe this? I've never used it but it caught my attention.
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-5x-prism-scope-with-patented-223556-545x39-308-acss-reticle/p/pac5x/

They have a 3x too
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-3x-compact-prism-scope-with-the-patented-acss-556-reticle/p/pac3x-acss-5.56/

>>30526357
>>30526295
If you're buying a prebuilt upper don't worry too much about the length of the gas system. It does make a difference, but for your first AR I wouldn't worry about it.

If you're only going to have one rifle I'd go with a 16"

If you're considering building a longer rifle later on, then go for a 14.5+MD. Only problem with that is when it comes to prebuilt upper there are fewer options in 14.5+Muzzle device.

>>30526507
Mine is black, but 10/10 color/ finish on it.
Really pretty piece of metal.
>>30526499
krylon works

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>>30526000
>Badass pic
>Posing like hes some victor in front of the charred corpses of American children.
Fuck off horiuchi

>>30526519
np m8

>>30526530
oh fugg i think you're right

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>>30526517
Since the RMR combo

>>30526520
thats actually not from an anime

>>30525789
>>30525823
Hey, congrats dude.

sold my hk mount, not i'm $75 closer to a kac lower.

feel free to donate to my patreon, btw.

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>>30526497
The new rail on your 20" looks good man. I prefer it over the diamondback just because it is a little less space gun and more traditional.

I wouldn't want a 14.5+MD and at 10.5" though. My biggest issue isn't even doing a form 1, it is ammo and terminal ballistics. Some anon the other day showed that M193 stops reliably fragmenting out of a 10.5" around 35 or 40 yards!

>>30526511
I'm not opposed at all to swapping the barrels myself. I just haven't ever done that before. Both my ARs were built with prebuilt uppers. I don't have a vice currently, but I have a full auto mechanics tool set.

>>30526578
thx

>>30526579
>patreon
sounds like hipster shit

>>30526579
*now

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Man I'm in a really good frickin mood after that nap.

And for anon, no, I did not shit the bed. No side effects yet actually

>>30526561
I mean, I can over priced shit too and claim it as normal pricing, but it took me 10 seconds to find a combo in the $1700 range, and if you check the EE on arfcom they regularly sell them there for 12-1400

>>30526582
I really liked the space gun look, but the diamondhead was heavy and limited my ability to put on a light and stuff like that.
I'm just saying to form 1 it for now, then when you get the stamp rebarrel to 14.5.
That way you can avoid the pin/weld, and still get your longer barrel.
>>30526601
huzza!

>>30526183
Did you ever post the how to on installing the cheek rest on the shockwave? I think I passed out after I told you I would be up for a while

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>>30526639
I-is the UBR space gun?

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>>30526646
What cheek rest is it? I think I want to add one to my shockwave

>>30526582
It's simple enough, and a chink special vice from Harbor Freight is adequate. You'll need a torque wrench that can do 30-80 ft lbs and get a _standard_ AR armorer's wrench.

Also, really consider the advice here about pinning a 14.5 >>30526639

Changing it once it's on is not impossible but it is an annoyance paying someone else for work that can easily be done yourself to avoid committing a felony.

>>30526079
I got the aircraft remover, will probably get around to it this weekend. Just stripping the lower.

>>30526050
I like Trijicon, I've owned 5 of their optics. Not in the market currently.

>>30526540
Just regular ass krylon? Is it really that durable? Should i tape off holes? Paint before or after milling?

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>>30526639
It was heavy really?! It looked light haha. Either way the new one is gucci man.

Hmm I think I hear what you're saying. Unfortunately a form 1 just isn't in the books for me now.

>>30526646
Ah I didn't man I crashed also. I'll start dumping and explaining.

>>30526662
CAA SST1
Whataburger is great. And there is absolutely no reason to write a letter to the ATF asking if the Cheek saddle is okay to use with the Shockwave.

So here is the Shockwave blade before being modified.

Also if anyone can link the cheapest receiver block for ARs that would be great.

>>30526295
Hey bro, just moved to Va.
you need a plinking/urban renewal buddy? In the Norfolk area.

>>30525371
Are Spikes Tacticool uppers and lowers decent?

>>30526560
>oh fugg i think you're right

Throw it in the trash.

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>>30526678
I've got a torque wrench, and I just realized I can use the vice at work.

D60 has a good point but for the cost of a Form 1 I could try out several different muzzle devices?

Here is a picture of the unmodified clamp pieces. You can see that they aren'y completely flat. Both have a little 1mm raised section on the inside.

>>30526766
no

>>30526767
no. you wont even see it when its on

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For those who ordered from giessle Thursday did the blem rails come with gas blocks? I swear i remember the page for the item said it was included and showed a pic with it but i did not receive one.

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>>30526766
Perfectly good lowers but in my opinion the stupid fucking memes plastered all over them are cringe worthy. Guns kill people. There is no reason to throw memes all over one.

You want to take a dremel and level off both of the clamp pieces so that the insides are flat like pictured.

Once again please do not write the ATF a stupid fucking letter asking if this is okay to do. It is 100% legal until they say otherwise. There is a whole thread on AR15.com explaining how shouldering a brace used to be legal until enough chucklefucks wrote letters asking for mommy and daddy's permission.

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>>30526652
UBR is pretty space gun, but also heavy.
I've learned I like my rifles light.
>>30526691
I'd paint before milling then alumablack/ alumahyde/ whatever the freshly milled surfaces.
It won't hold up forever but it'll give it color.
Otherwise you could cerekote/ durakote it, or have it done.
>>30526732
The Diamondhead was 19.7oz including the barrel nut and screws, Geissele is 14.6oz with barrel nut and screws.
You'd be able to try out 2-5 muzzle devices for that 200$ price tag, but it would have to be pinned/ welded unless you left the brace on at first.
If you're leaving the brace on it might work better for you to try MD's and get your favorite pinned. (I'm just kind of opposed to pinning since I can't do it myself nor can I remove it, and I don't want to send someone my rifle to modify it for me)
>>30526774
Y'all talking about this?
I guess that little chip makes it a blem, oh Bill.

>>30526732
>link the cheapest receiver block for ARs
I am also looking at vise to put all the parts i got for the Fourth together. Cheapest I have been able to find is from Midway

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/210021/wheeler-engineering-delta-series-upper-receiver-vise-block-clamp-ar-15

>>30526805
it does not include one and it did not say it included one. gb's were being sold separately

>>30526816
yeah, ill take a better pic

>>30526805
No, but I did get swag.
Apparently the website said it may or may not come with one, but if you call them and tell them it wasn't clear/ you didn't understand that disclaimer they might let you buy a gas block for the blem price of $20.

>all these fags getting blem rails

how will i prove i'm not a filthy poor now?!

>>30526774

I was kidding bruh. That's fucking awesome. Be happy

>>30526807
I found the actual write up.

I’m going to post the pictures of my Shockwave brace modified to fit a CAA SST1 cheek saddle. I couldn't find anything detailing an actual install anywhere on the web. Someone put an MFT cheek saddle on a Shockwave, but they mounted it backwards, and I don't think it is as secure as my solution. Most of the picture that we’ve seen of cheek saddles and Shockwaves are either secured with double sided velcro, zip ties, or are just resting on there for a picture. I'm pretty sure this is an internet first.

I sincerely implore anyone considering this modification to refrain from contacting the ATF regarding the legality. Both the CAA SST1 cheek saddle and the Shockwave are completely legal to use as intended (cheek/forearm stabilization), so there is no reason why the combination of the two, used as intended, should be anything other than completely legal. If you write the ATF asking them if the combination is legal you are opening up the opportunity for them to say no. There is absolutely no reason to give them that opportunity. Previously an AR15.com user wrote a letter to the ATF asking if a particular sling mount combined with the CAA cheek saddle was legal. It was legal, until he wrote the letter, and then the ATF decided that it was illegal. That's how it works. Don't write them a letter. We're grown ass men. Some of us have used federally illegal drugs like cocaine, acid, ecstasy, and mushrooms. Many of us speed occasionally. This country was built on individual rights, and individual responsibility. Take the individual responsibility and don't write a fucking letter.

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>>30526816
Eh, mine is a SPR so heavy is OK

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>>30526830
you will now forever be a poorfag

>>30526833
am happy

>>30526823
>>30526824
Reeeee i swear it had a pic of it on the page along side the rail, i did get the swag tho.

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>>30526830
never

>>30526768
In that case I'd strongly recommend a muzzle device that can mount a can if you're going to pin it. I'm going to have to pay $90 to install a new muzzle device on my 14.5 because I went with an extended A2 two years ago when I thought I would never be interested in the "hassle" of owning a can.

I could easily do all the work myself in less than an hour with tools I already own. Don't be me.

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>>30526816
That is a good idea leaving the brace on until I decide on a muzzle device! Seriously dude thanks my dumb ass completely glossed over that possibility.

>>30526819
Sweet thank you.

>>30526845
Below are links to the ATF letters establishing the legality of the Shockwave and the CAA cheek saddle used independently for their intended purposes as pistol braces. This is all that we, as responsible law abiding American citizens, need in order to combine and use the two products as INTENDED, as braces. Use your fucking brains. There is also linked an open letter from the ATF regarding stabilizing pistol braces and intended use. Educate yourself and read it as well.

http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?p=2114

http://www.thordsencustoms.com/media/wysiwyg/ATF_Response_letter_for_AR_pistol_pack.PDF

https://www.atf.gov/file/11816/download

Lastly I sincerely ask my fellow firearms enthusiasts to refrain from reposting following pictures and information regarding the modification without repeating or restating the sentiment expressed above.

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when you drop truth bombs harder then isis drops real bombs

>>30526862

yeah ok moneybags

want to get a remote switch assembly for my TLR-1s

they offer a plain pressure switch and a tape switch.

honestly I don't know which one to get any suggestions?

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>>30526877
>talking to people on IG

Lame

>>30526862
You're not dead.
Y-yay...
Did you see the handguard I bought

>>30526897
Surefire furry

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anon was right, holes are fugged

So question, even though I know none of you are lawyers.

TL;DR I just found out a family friend owns a RDIAS that was registered with the NFA, and offered to let me borrow it for a weekend (we live in the same state). Here's the legal issue though. If I were to buy a Full Auto trigger group so I can use the RDIAS, would I have any chance of getting ass rammed in jail as I am not the owner of said RDIAS?

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>>30526864
Thanks for the invaluable hindsight man. I'm more likely to buy a can than SBR it for sure.

>>30526871
>>30526807
The next step isn't entirely necessary but I always like an excuse to go to the hardware store. The hex head cap screws that come with the SST1 might not be long enough to pass through the body of the Blade. I can't remember but I'm pretty sure they are metric M3 or M4 cap screws. I went and got some longer ones, I think they are 10mm or 5mm longer than the ones that came with SST1.

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>>30526852
There was totally a picture of it on the page, heavily implying you'd definitely get one.
You should call, it's worth a shot.
I'm not going to since both my rifles have gas blocks, and there's no reason for me to spend the extra $20 on another.
>>30526871
That's the best thing about the internet and talking stuff over with people, it took me a few replies with you to come up with it haha
>>30526877
Post the whole conversation mcdubbington
>>30526907
Huh
Makes me wonder if mine were rough too, too late now though.

>>30526907
Will it still install though?

>>30526916
I think he has to be with you or you be in his trust

>>30526907
still mountable?

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>>30526907
That's what you fucking get you god danm cheap heb

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>>30526900
it looks like turbocrap, as expected

what am i going to do with my URX4 now
and the DD slim rail and MK8 i'm also not using

>>30526877
The more assmad they are, the more correct you are.

>>30526916
yes. only the registered individual or members of the trust the rdias is tied to are legally allowed to possess/use it.

>>30526951
Gib

>mfw current AR not done and already planning the next

I-is that normal?

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>>30526877
Haha wow.

>>30526907
Uh oh what is wrong dude?

>>30526920
Next you've got to start modifying the actual Blade brace. You're going to want to dremel off the top strap loop, as well as a couple of the triangular support pieces that connect the "fin" of the blade to the tube section.

Once those triangular supports are gone, start grinding the face of the fin down so that it is flat enough to interface securely with the now flat clamp pieces that came with the SST1.

Line the clamps up against the fin and drill two holes for the screws to pass through.

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>>30526965
duh

i'll be back
going to pile up all my 'spare' parts

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>>30526975
Have any shit I might wanna buy?

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>>30526951
What happened to that KMR?

>>30526973
Now you can bolt the clamps to the blade.

>>30526973
>>30526920
you should make this into one guide

>>30526938
>>30526941
yeah

>>30526943
kys poorfag

>>30526973
nothing just found the blemish

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>>30526928
Here's the first post

>>30527014
Kys cheap fag

>>30526998
Lastly attach the SST1 cheek saddle to the clamp pieces.

When you dremel the rear strap loop off of the Shockwave brace you also need to round off the back of the brace. It comes pretty angular and square but the SST1 cheek saddle is meant to go on a buffer tube. This means dremeling of a decent amount of material to get it round. I've had no negative effects on the structural integrity of my brace and I've put about 600 rounds through it and a bunch of innawoodsing.

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>>30527014
No problem then

>>30527027
>using IG for anything but looking at guns and tits
Loser

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>>30527033
Forgot the picture.

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>>30527027

>>30527027
>This is how you
No. They fuck off until they're ready to assimilate to OUR culture.

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>>30527056
racist.

>>30527063
Is that bait?

>>30527027
Did you start shit for no reason
>>30527053
kind of
>>30527056
idk senpai
Seems like it's just info
It'd be a fuck off kind of thing if they got pissed when you offered a handshake
>>30527041
this is what I use it for too, kek.

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>>30527045
As you can see the addition of the SST1 cheek saddle does increase the surface area on the rear, but not noticeably so and you're not going to shoulder it anyway.

I ran into a Sheriff in the woods a month ago while I was carrying my 10.5" pistol with the Shockwave/Cheek saddle combination. He looked the pistol over and actually checked it out a decent bit, but didn't comment on it other than pointing out that my KAK Flash Can wasn't actually a KX3, and telling me I should just buy a can.

Bear in mind this is in Colorado, and the guy was ex special forces.

>>30527027
>in America
>We shake people's hands

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>>30527066

>>30527073
He always starts shit for no reason

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>>30527053

>>30527080
Wot

>>30527086
You dolt, stop using logic. Emotional appeals and irrational statements are the only things these people understand

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>>30527086

>>30527099
not bati

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>>30527056
People forget the importance of social cohesion in any society. If these fuckers don't assimilate they will break down the social and philosophical bonds which tie us together as brothers and citizens.

I'm not going to enter into a social contract with some backwards ass honor killing, homophobic, sexist, behead the infidels, fuck freedom of religion and speech, shithead.

It is ironic because the biggest supporters of multiculturalism are also fucking socialists, and socialist societies need a great deal of social cohesion/ value homogeneity, or they need authoritarian fuck your individual rights governments.

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Hey /arg/, newfag here. I was told I have too many AR's in my collection, what are your thoughts?

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>>30527103
>if isis was a muslim

>>30525645
your AR looks like literal garbage

>>30527125
you have to many AKs

>>30526819
Look up magpul Bev block. Haven't got mine yet but it's supposed to both hold upper and lower and stabilize barrel extension like the guys named Lee reaction rod

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>>30527106
Oh. It's not racist to demand that immigrants learn the language and respect the culture of the country they are moving to.

Mexicans come here to "escape Mexico" then turn around and try to make the US just like the shithole they are trying to escape.

If you move to a country, you learn their language and culture, period.

>>30527125
>only 4 and one lower
Not nearly enough.
Nice sheild btw

>>30527114
>they need authoritarian fuck your individual rights governments.
oh hey guess what option they're going for

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>>30527127

>>30527134
This

>>30527146
im joking m8

>>30527160
>posts dumbass comment
>gets fokin Rekt
>OH ITZ A PRANK BRO

Kek

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>>30527158

Anyone know where I can buy a b5 sopmod stock for under $58?

>>30526862
>mk18 ris ii
>expensive
no. only costs $250 :^

>>30527027
perfect response would be "this is how you greet an unveiled woman" and with a pic of a muslim trowing acid in a woman's face

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>>30527134
Haha fuck yes pb

>>30527139
Hmm interesting. Kinda pricey though.

>>30527151
And that's why we're all on /k/, stockpiling thousands of rounds of ammunition, magazines, and firearms.

>>30527182
ok
so I think that's a good amount of the convo
how much longer did it go?

>>30527125
Regardless if you do or not, dont sell any with the election coming

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>>30527168

>>30527182
>pbuh
what is that

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>>30527204
>on mobile

>>30527182
>JUST LISTEN TO ME, CHANGE YOUR OPINION

>>30527134
Nothing wrong with one oddball 5.45 AK for shits n giggles

>>30527203
I was planning on selling the AR Pistol in a few months as I don't use it now with the SBR, but time will tell.

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>>30527218
>he doesnt have vlc to watch webm's on his phone
kys

>>30527227
1 to many

Alright you sinners, 18" barrel, 55gr, midlength gas w/ UBR buffer tube.
What weight buffer am I gonna want?

All it says here is m4 buffer and spring

>>30527127

I know this is edgy/10, but reading shit like this sometimes makes me wish that movie The Purge was real, cuz holy fuck there are too many stupid people sheltered from natural selection.

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>>30527200
Awhile

>>30527248
Why not sleek sexy 20"?

>>30527269
Wanna be able to carry it easily if necessary and I like the aesthetics of 18"

>>30527253
>blacks went through slavery and now sell CDs
people are retarded

>>30527248
Why not rifle gas?
Also carbine will probably be fine, I'd probably go H2.
Reasoning is that rifle buffer is 5oz, and an H2 is closer to that weight.

>>30527276
>people are retarded

Holy fuck are they ever.

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>>30527253

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>>30526862
>>30525841
>>30525825
>>30525779
>>30525465
Man that RIS II is sexy as fuck still.

>>30527278
Midlength is all I could find. I'm not opposed to rifle length gas

>>30527282

>Hurr murdered for selling CD's

So it's not in any way shape or form possible that said black person didn't violently resist arrest? Durrrrrrrr

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>>30527276
You following the Clinton news?

You better be.

From my fb:

I am absolutely disgusted, and I've lost a great deal of faith in the credibility of the Justice Department. The FBI has chosen to not recommended the prosecution of Hillary Clinton, however anyone who thinks that the recommendation was a truly bottom up decision is simply blind to the unbridled influence of the most painfully obvious oligarchs in this country. The bottom line is that the FBI and others have continuously leaked evidence of Hillary Clinton hosting SAPs and other highly confidential national secrets on her private server, all while taking in hundreds of millions of dollars in donations through the Clinton Foundation from international interests and other private entities. If this doesn't reek of corruption then I'm not sure what does. Hillary is the "presumptive" democratic nominee who only has such a title because of media bias. Meanwhile our second amendment rights are being eroded as the world slips into greater global instability.
The Clinton Foundation is a hub of nepotism, influence, and what is essentially international organized crime, not in the realm of illicit drugs or trafficking, but rather the forcible extortion and enslavement of sovereign citizens in this country and in others. The American people have been betrayed on multiple levels, and Hillary Clinton has continually leveraged her political career towards the presidential office through treason and fraud.

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>>30527304
Pay less attention to a single black man being unjustly killed, and more attention to Hillary Clinton..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/…/andrew-napolitano-bernie-…/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap…/politics/clinton-money/
http://www.nytimes.com/…/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-…
https://en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_access_program
Please take the time to peruse through a couple of the links I posted. Together they begin to paint only a shallow picture of what has been transpiring.
Interestingly enough, in the past several days the Wiki page for the Clinton Foundation has been changed to no longer include their comprehensive donor list. The list of donors can still be found, albeit shrouded in a greater deal of obfuscation.
"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
-James Comey, Director of the FBI

>>30527227
Like I said, I'd wait

>>30527313
>>30527304
God damnit I'm mad again

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>>30526995
look at all of this fucking garbage

>>30525371
Where is the best online retailer for KAC?

>>30525922
>5 barrels and 2 uppers later

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>>30527282

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>>30527324
I'll talk to you in TS about some of it next time I'm on

>>30527324
What BCG is that?

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>>30527342
>1 barrel and a shitty later

>>30526098
While I will make no assertions of those 5.11 lights being good, I am honestly surprised it straight up broke.

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>>30527322
This the real shit to be mad about.

>>30527313
Fuck these are the links in order of importance:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/27/andrew-napolitano-bernie-sanders-hillary-clintons-/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-millions-to-foundation-while-clinton-was-at-state-dept/2015/02/25/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/clinton-money/

This last one explains the Oregon standoff, if you dig enough.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=1

Why is this /k/ or /arg/ related? Because this is why we have the 2nd amendment.

>>30527324
Dude you should sell some. What length is that KMR? You got all the parts for it?
I like that STR stock too.

>>30527324
>no railed gas blocks
fucking garbage indeed

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>>30527344
Last one

>>30527360
It broke a couple days ago but just now stopped working

>>30527075
Can you say a few words about how the interaction gets started in this situation? How does a wandering sheriff/marshal/police officer initially get your attention in these types of things? Do you unload your gun at a distance as a courtesy etc?

I haven't been in a woods too much before.

>>30527349
ares armor melonite or something

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>>30527292
Faxon makes some
http://faxonfirearms.com/18-gunner-5-56-nato-rifle-length-4150-qpq/
I want this one to replace my del-ton 20" lightweight.

>>30527380
"Hail, traveler!"

>>30527304
yeah, i caught what i could of the press release while at work. having money and the ag on your side are powerful things

>>30526862
>>30527014
>nothing just found the blemish

That's easy af to fix and probably won't even cause any problems to begin with

>>30527401
mines not blemished
i bought that direct from DD years ago for $400

>>30527380
Here in MO it'll be a game warden.

And they're straight up ninjas. Not uncommon for them to be in full (good) ghillie suits and just pop up a foot in front of you.

>>30527324
sell me that stripped upper famerino

>>30527385
Could I get that in 223 wylde?
I appreciate you looking but I'm going for 223 wylde and you had no way of knowing that so don't sweat it

>>30527397
I believe he was probably threatened. He was all about getting her ass arrested and suddenly he backs out? I bet they threatened his family or something. Still, he is a traitor.

But did you notice he listed all the shit she did though?
His body language (non verbal communication) said he was uncomfortable.

>>30527324
What's that barrel to the right of the SS one?
Looks like a lightweight something, 16"?

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Actually qb, what muzzle device is this and how well did it work?

>>30527382
How much?

>>30527426
I don't think so, which sucks.
I've only heard of them doing one barrel in .223 wylde, and it was a limited run for some retarded reason.

>>30527454
Oh alright. I still gotta find a barrel.
My special purpose is to hit a clay at 400 yards. I'm worried that any barrel that isn't thick and heavy will have too much barrel whip

>>30527380
ive talked to the sheriff once while onnatrail. i asked how his day was going and we talked for a few minutes, nice guy. 99% of the time any lawman you run into innawoods will be very nice

>>30527426
well the ag is his boss, correct? he spent the whole time saying how she was guilty and then lolnope

i live in mass and if i want more than 10rds i need to buy 1994 pre ban mags, are they any drawbacks to these also do they still fit the model ARs or do i need to have an older gun

>>30527380
Any time I see Leo's inna desert I either unload the gun and put it down or set it somewhere and walk away from it.

>>30527472
I'm not sure but I'm mad he fucking pussed out. This is gonna help her fucking campaign

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>>30527380
I was shooting with some buds in some national forest about 1/4 mile from road.

We were plinking away, responsibly with a good backstop and no rapid firing. I turn around to give my buddy a thumbs up and I see a police officer about 10 yds behind us on top of some rocks (this is Colorado), with his handgun drawn, observing us. I tell my friend shooting to hold and turn the safety on. One AR was in my friends hand who was shooting, and the other AR was leaning against a rock. I was unarmed as I was spotting. I approached the officer leaving the ARs where they were and began talking with him.

Turns out the land we were on had just recently been closed to shooting. I explained our ignorance politely and he watched us clean up then walked us halfway back to the road before going off in another direction towards his truck I assume.

I haven't come across and rangers or police while actively hiking and open carrying, but I would suggest AGAINST unloading the weapon or operating it in any way. Simply keeping it holstered or slung is your best bet. If you don't have a sling, place it against a tree and stop moving seems like the best bet.

>>30527395
Lol. I miss D&d

>>30527397
Fucking bullshit man.

>>30527471
..do you have any idea what barrel whip even is?

Heavy barrels delay and minimize barrel droop over prolonged shooting sessions. Thats it. A pencil barrel will be as accurate (all else being equal) for the first 10 rounds, and potentially longer depending how slow you shoot.

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>>30527441
it's from my SCAR17

>>30527444
i forgot


SUPER important TS meeting RIGHT NOW
104.153.105.2:13140

>>30527496
Only drawback will be lack of an antitilt follower, which has a minor impact on reliability.

They are still the current STANAG spec and will fit any in spec AR.

>>30527471
This is out of stock, but has rifle gas.
http://ballisticadvantage.com/18-inch-223-wylde-spr-mid-length-ss-premium-barrel-ops12.html
not sure if you care about stainless + or -.

Here's more
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/gm-m18-18-223-wylde-chamber/
http://www.primaryarms.com/odin-works-ar15-ss-18-223-wylde-barrel-18-rifle-length-gas-block-included/p/b-223-18-dmr/
http://www.andersonrifles.com/product/18-nordic-223-wylde-competition-barrels/
http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Odin_Works_18_223_Wylde_3_Gun_RIFLE_Length_Barrel_p/odin-b-223-18-3g-rifle.htm
http://aeroprecisionusa.com/223-wylde-18-rifle-barrel.html

>>30527517
I didn't mention the rapid firing as part of my reason for wanting a thicker barrel, but I have before. Sorry

>>30527534
5.56?
Was it a good piece?

>>30527552
I was actually looking at BA's barrel for some time.
I'll check out those other links, thanks anon.

>>30527534
gib stripped upper

>>30527576
you're not in TS

>>30527552
I would be leery of Odin Works. My shop's gotten 2 of their barrels through that were supposedly ready to install that were short chambered and didn't have the gas port drilled. Out of the less than 200 barrels of theirs we've used.

They fixed it by overnighting a new one to us both times, but it speaks of their quality control.

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>>30527596
Wow.

>>30527558
>hitting a 5" target at 400m
>rapid fire
Yeah not happening, knowing you

>>30527589
im going to bed ;_;

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>>30527616
I'm not gonna try to rapid fire at a 400 yard target dude.
I sometimes like to bump fire because it's fun.

>>30527596
Huh
I was just finding barrels that were 18" rifle gas
Good to know though.
>>30527617
bed is for squares

>>30527617
>8pm MDT
>going to bed
What level of faggotry is this? Hell we still have almost an hour of daylight

>>30527617
sweet dreams pet bunny

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>>30527634
>>30527635
i get up really early for work. sun is still out here and it sucks

>>30527639
y-you too

>>30527614
>>30527634
The barrels we did install were good, this is just a caveat emptor about their QC. Dunno whether to blame a machinist or a fucktarded office puke.

>>30527628
>bump fire
>hitting ANYTHING at any range, regardless of barrel
Breh...

>>30527650
That sucks

>>30527685
Bump firing is for fun, not accuracy

I am a decent shot. With my M&P and that shit optic I can kill clays standing at 200-300 yards pretty often

The purpose of my 18" build is to hit targets from a table w/ a sandbag / bipod and lots of breath / trigger control

>>30527658
Fair enough

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>>30527635
>MDT
AYY yo. Where at?
Cody WY here for the next week. Super pumped to see this '92 winchester thats supposed to be waiting for me tomorrow.
>speed goat best goat
MSD, no fuckings of this one

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posted for xtreem ts meeting

>>30527791
y dis 4chin
y u delete trip

Poll time faggots
>favorite alt caliber for ARs
http://www.strawpoll.me/10685379

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>>30527846
And pic related.

>>30527846
>mfw no 44mag / 45acp Ar

I just listed a few AR accessories I didn't need on cuckslist and they both severe flagged to removal in 2 hours.


Are there's really losers who just on that site 24/7 just to flag shit?

So has anyone used a fulls size harbor freight router for an %80 build? I just started my first build today and base on this router almost prevents me from seeing what I'm doing. I got the first pass done but decided to wait until tomorrow to do the rest.

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>>30527875
Sucks I know.
>kinda want a .357sig AR
>is actually a thing but waaaaaay more monies than I'm willing to spend on a range toy
Also forgot the smallbore stuff like 17 fireball, 20tactical/vartarg, 204 ruger, and .222rem spl

I guess post itt if you like smallbore ars.