AR Thread / AR General /arg/

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>>30290755
where's my dust, you faggot!!!

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>>30290779
you still haven't got it? i wonder if my mom put enough stamps on it

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Skelator suggest to me some tacticool ear pro please. Low profile would be nice and over ear.

>>30290779

What the hell do you use that rifle for?

It's seen some use.

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So how/what is your AR currently configured for?

Home defense? Long range target shooting? Just a general fuck-shit-up rifle?

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>>30290835
fucking my own anus

>>30290798
no, maybe a drug dog barked at it and they flushed it down the toilet.

doesn't matter since i got a bottle with my barrel.

>>30290845
>Just a general fuck-shit-up rifle?
this but i keep a mag in it for hd

>>30290857
kek

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>>30290845
>So how/what is your AR currently configured for?
resistance

>>30290755
Is a billet 80% lower easier to mill out than forged?

Who makes the cheapest 80% lowers?

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>>30290755
none of you losers have larueminati patches

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>>30290755
>larue

Soon :^)

So did anyone kill themselves while I was away

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>>30290903
will you kys when i get one?

>>30290845
One is long range precision.

One is a dedicated varmint rifle.

One is a standard fighting carbine.

One is a "pistol" awaiting a form 1 for SBR and a form 4 for can.

One is set up for 3-gun competition.

One is set up for durr hunting.

>>30290873
Prob won't make a difference

Everyone makes them. An amodized one should never cost more than 70$

>>30290903
How get

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>>30290857
>fucking your own ass with the suppressor
>not inserting a can of breakfree into your asshole

Forget the suppressor, we're taking this to a WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL.

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>>30290845
general fuck shit up rifle.

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>>30290945
>>is there more interesting stuff about it that you know of? or just it's wear resistance?
>For linings/treatments? As a consumer I would just consider chrome lining top dog for wear resistance and nitride as having the best corrosion resistance at a lower production cost.
>Nitrided stainless steel is still less wear resistant than 4140 or 4150 chromoly.
>A well made chrome lined barrel still has better accuracy potential than most shooters, so don't think that you need the accuracy potential of a nitrided match barrel just to shoot sub-moa.

>>30290943
>An amodized one should never cost more than 70$
I guess I'm a retard, because all that I've found are like $100 for 7075

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>>30290845
Middy is HD/short range general purpose.

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>>30290967
Here is one example

http://www.andersonrifles.com/product/anodized-80-lower-receiver/

Paid $65 for mine at a gunshow

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>>30290974
A1 is for lighting up gooks at short-medium range.

>>30290845
hd/ fuck shit up rifle.

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>>30290845
Do it all with primary purpose as defensive

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>>30290845
Recce - "long range" shooting, have had it out to 750y
SBR - general fuckery in 5.56 or 300blk subs

>>30290927
you actually bought those shitty kits they sell at the book store....

fuckin nerd.

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>>30290974
>short range
yes, we know ^:

>>30290994

Heard your A1 lower is a custom colour? Know of any manufacturers that sell lowers the same colour as A2 uppers?

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>>30291025
Can't hate, bby. :^

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>>30291040
>5rds

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>>30291028
>lower
Lower is in whatever shade of Colt Gray McKay Enterprises uses.
>Know of any manufacturers that sell lowers the same colour as A2 uppers?
Brownells. For whatever retarded reason they sell A1 uppers and lowers in A2 black. Why would you want a black A1 lower?

Is larue stealth 12 inch too heavy for sbr?????

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im gay

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>>30291051
Don't you have a "fucked up" barrel to be tending to? ;^

>>30291080
post body pic

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>>30291083
no, the port got cleaned up.

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>>30290845
Long range tactical sniper rifle

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just got my first LaRue mount last week, loved it at the range today

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>>30291071

Oh so the A1 has a differrent colour. Well I have an Armalite A2 upper and wanted to find a lower that matches if possible.

>>30291096
>the port got cleaned up.
How did you manage to fuck that up?

>>30291084
So that's a no then?

>>30291040
put it back to 50

>>30291130
by drilling it and not reaming it.

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>>30291124
>Armalite A2 upper
>a lower that matches if possible.
About 95% of lower offerings do this.

>>30291135
depends if you are a bitch boi or not.

>>30291124
>>colour

Nogunz britbong detected

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>>30290755
How good is dillo dust?

>>30291080
No, but consider your use. I do a lot of blasting with my SBR, not bagged up and prone where I would do the barrel profile justice, let alone a naked stainless "match" barrel.

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>>30290845
Killing Babies

need to find a reasonably priced complete upper before barry bans ar's, any suggestions? windham a good brand?

>>30291111
Which Barrel manufacturer / length?

>>30291180
Windham is a very good brand. It's the company that used to be known as Bushmaster before they sold the name to freedom group

>>30291173
ill send ya some

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>>30291208
<3 u bby

>>30291187
He has an out of the box BCM 11.5" upper.

>>30291218
y-you too

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>>30291111
Same new person here. 11.5 yet is long range? Or is it a joke?

Can 18 in barrel and rifle length gas system be used over medium distance just as well, or is it that once you have a special purpose long range gun its not as fun / easy to use indoors?

>>30291178
Makes sense, I'll go BCM ELW

>>30291114
>buying LaRue mounts in the current year

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>>30291259
11.5" is played out, 10.3" is the new hotness for long range.

What is the best "entry level" AR15 for somewhere around $600-$750? I'm in this price range simply because I'm going to be listing a rifle for sale/trade and that area is going to be what I am trying to get for it. If I were to flat out buy I'd just build a BCM or something.

My only AR is a Colt MT6700 that I've had for almost ten years now (got it on my 16th birthday) and I've only recently begun having the itch for a carbine length AR, and now thanks to all this political crap going on I'm kind of wanting to pick up something decent while I can.

>>30291259
Not...necessarily, but with good ammo and equal quality barrels an 11.5" only loses about 150m max supersonic range compared to a 20", and only about 90m compared to an 18".

>>30291301
S&W M&P Sport II
Ruger AR-556
If you're lucky you can occasionally find a Colt 6920 for under $700.

>>30291164

i'm a leaf, and I'm building an AR.

>>30291148

Good to know, thank you.

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>>30291327
Thanks.

>>30290818
i have some TCI Liberator 1's

will NEVER go back to dumb earpro again. the convenience is WORTH IT.

also did your ammo ship? i'm the email anon. mine hasn't shipped yet and i'm starting to worry they ran out. site says they're out of stock.....

>>30291416
Not saying they're really all that suited to it due to being much harder to steady, but it's doable.

Hell I compete in LR-tactical matches with an AR10 and there's a guy in my league that shoots a 10.5" 6.5 Grendel. He's routinely ringing steel out to 1000m with 123gr Scenars, and they're pretty bad on ballistic coefficient compared to other options.

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>>30291459
So because the new thread started while I was in mid post, I'll post it again. I've been informed by some individuals that my rifle is garbage. What can I do to ungarbage it? I'm thinking of dropping the bipod altogether because I only really use it to sight in. I'm also thinking of swapping the PA1-6 for a red dot. Any suggestions would be nice.

>>30290870
>resisting anything with a NFA gun
you'll be one of the first they disarm if it ever gets to that thanks to your being on the registry

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>>30291617
>>30291459
My bad, didn't mean to reply with that. Oopsie daisy. True operating as compensation.

>>30290961
thanks

>>30291646
THEN I'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO DIE, i promise to take as many with me as i can(sorry for caps)

>>30291617
>>30291653
Either way, the only thing I can think of that might be "garbage" on that gun is the barrel.

Also take about half of those covers off, as well as the rear handstop. I can't even tell what handguard that is.

Stock is fine (I know everyone sucks the SOPMOD dick around here, ACS-L is nice too).

Optic and mount are pretty good. Only optic that's really better costs $1700.

Muzzle brake is decent. There's better, but not for the money.

Bipod is fine. Atlas on an AR is dumb AF because they weigh several pounds.

Sights are good.

Milspec trigger is shit. Especially on a "precision" gun.

>>30291617
whats the specs on your rifle?

>>30291111

308?

>>30291081
what rifle bag?

>>30291283
what do you suggest?

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WEW LAD

>>30291688
you probably shouldn't say that on here... w/e

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>lower parts, trigger, 10 pmags in the mail
>won't be able to order upper until next month

Should I go Aimpoint T2 or ACOG TA33?

>>30291793
fuck it, if i die i die.

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>>30291787
the most infuriating thing about it is Jim Sullivan said they literally designed the cartridge to work with the hague convention. To be effective but still be legal.

So in essence, fat fuck moore is taking the opposite of the truth and spewing it as fact.

BLATANTLY.

>>30291787
i want to see the crime scene pics

>>30291794
ta31

>>30291794
>memerton lowers

>>30291776
almost literally anything else besides ARMS

ADM, GDI, Bobro, Midwest Industries are all much better options than LaRue

>>30291833
>besides ARMS
why

>>30291833
>almost literally anything else besides ARMS
i know someone who is an ARMS fanboy i cannot fathom why either.

please tell me why larue sucks other than cost?

>>30291820
>So in essence, fat fuck moore is taking the opposite of the truth and spewing it as fact.
What else is new?

>>30291830
>$60 at local shop
>works

I don't see the issue.

>>30291829
But that shit eye relief.

>>30291865
What are you using the gun for?

>>30291865
the ta33 is ugly tho.

>>30291851
They cost as much or more than other mounts of similar or better quality, they gouge the shit out of your rails, and Mark LaRue is a dickhead with terrible opinions and no idea when to keep his mouth shut.

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>>30291706
It's actually an SSA-E in there. I'll take the rail cover stuff to heart and see how it feels.
>>30291724
PSA upper/lower
223 Wylde barrel 16"
J-Comp
Bad lever
Geiselle SSA-E
ACS-L stock
MBUS pro
Primary arms 1-6x ASCC
MI SSKII

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>>30291829

>>30291887
>they gouge the shit out of your rails
this isn't true, they mark the anodizing maybe but they dont gouge anything unless you're dumb and didn't properly adjust the tension.

>Mark LaRue is a dickhead with terrible opinions and no idea when to keep his mouth shut.

i'm interested in this though... share pls

>>30291890
who makes the barrel? honestly, from what i see its nota bad rifle. i wouldnt make some of the same choices but thats just personal preferences.
my only suggestion is maybe take it easy with the rail covers.

>>30291848
Because they're fragile and loosen over time and until very recently weren't capable of being adjusted to compensate for that, or for damaged/out-of-spec rails.

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>>30291173
It's objectively disgusting.

Like pucker face, what the fuck did I just put on this meet, who the fuck thought this tasted good, this is bottled farticles bad.

If I had to choose between eating a log of dog shit and a log of dog shit covered in dillo dust, I would choose plain dog shit.

>>30291289
( + )P-R-E-C-I-S-I-O-N( + )

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>>30291880
I don't think it looks bad at all, and it has much better eye relief and weighs a bit less.

>>30291878
Indoors and out to 300m.

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>>30291829
5.56

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>>30291918
*meat

>>30291897
rip fluffy

>>30291916
How are their rings? I plan to use some on my mk12

>>30291920
Ta33 is uglier than a ta31. And I would either find a variable that you like or get an ta31. I have an aimpoint and it's lacking shooting out to 300 yards.

>>30291920
>out to 300m
>giant as fuck red dots
you know what to do.

also i hope you got a geissele SSA-E trigger in the mail for it.

>>30291943
dr8c0 >>30291926

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>>30291926
Yummy

>>30291954
Got a basic GI trigger that's NIB coated for now, since I got it with a lower kit for $55. I'll upgrade later, but for now I just want to get the fucker finished before everyone panic buys everything.

>>30291905
>this isn't true, they mark the anodizing maybe
Need I post the series of pics of my completely fucked Colt upper from an LT107 I had mounted on it and properly adjusted for tension?

It crushed the rail in almost 0.40" under single-finger pressure the first time it was installed (displacing metal over the standard height and rendering 3 slots unusable because it squished the peaks of the rail into the slots), which was done by a professional gunsmith.

I've posted them twice before and tripfags called me a liar.

>>30291920
you do you senpai but you can't into aesthetics.

>>30291974
who will take pics of meth heads now?

>>30291905
>i'm interested in this though... share pls
e.g., http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10473&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=712

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ta33 is sexy. its also a great scope. too bad i got rid of mine a few months ago

>>30291984
post em

>>30291926
Is that from the scene? Do we know what ammunition he used since the MCX is multi cal?

>>30291943
If you're doing a clone that specifically calls for an ARMS mount, then you don't have much choice, but if you're just doing a Mk12-inspired precision build you'd be better off going with a good QD mount or with rings from Badger Ord, Nightforce, etc.

>>30290779
Did you ever get a new can?

>>30292076
got mine fixed

>>30292059
mexico

>>30291446
Nope. Said they were out so I ordered different ammo. Cheaper than dirt has 900 green tips for like 320. P good.

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>>30291017
>shitty

Ham hand detected

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>>30291187
BCM Lightweight 11.5"

>>30291259
Super serious

>>30291289
No time and time again 11.5" 5.56 barrels have proved to be superior when matched against 10.3" barrels when shooting at a mile targets
>pic related

>>30291728
5.56

>>30291983
yea true that

>>30291984
post them but i think you fucked up. sorry. most people, in my experience, are fucking morons and are usually the culprit 99% of the time.

eithe rthat or your colt upper was poorly heat treated but i'm sure you heard that the last time around.

more likely you don't know how to adjust it, or interpretted the instructions improperly. that being said larue's mounting system is a little unorthodox, i'm not sure if i like it or not. i'm still on the fence about it when i eventually do move up to a 1-4x.

>>30292085
So what's the moral of the story?

>>30292029
you should have gotten rid of that grip and muzzle device.

what the hell anon?

>>30292059
gtfo antigun faget looking for 5.56 wounds to post in your shilly agendas.

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>>30292108
FUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

they haven't emailed me yet. my order is confirmed but not shipped....

god damnit dude, also why'd you by from CTD....

>>30292158
life's a garden, dig it.

>>30292163
the grip is comfy. and theres a reason for that md- its a pinned 14.5" barrel, i wanted a basic cheap fh that i could get cut off without caring but i didnt want an extended a2 like everyone else, so i got the dd for about the same price.
i never did get it SBR'd though.

>>30292149
If their mounting system wasn't pants-on-head retarded, you couldn't fuck it up that badly without having to drive the lever home with a fucking sledge hammer.

BUT...it is pants-on-head retarded and being even slightly off on alignment (not even adjustment) will do it. Which isn't really user error.
>or your Colt upper was poorly heat treated
Somehow I doubt this, as this has never been an issue for any other Colt upper ever made in the entire history of AR's.
>Larueminati shilling Mark Larue's dickbag self again

And this is coming from a guy who owns an LT104. Mark Larue is a douche, his products are half-baked good ideas pushed to market too soon and with minimal testing, and instead of fixing what would normally be relatively minor growing pains for a new product the company enlists literal paid shills to cover up the issues and attempt to defame the people who call the product out for its shortcomings for all eternity.

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>>30291913
>>30291913
Not sure. It came with my upper, but it's shot really well since I've had it. I'm not much of a rifle shooter, but I've been able to pretty consistently group around 1.5" using the mag as a monopod with the 1-6x scope shooting various .223/5.56 loads. Most of my recreational shooting is handgun oriented, so my rifles are mostly range/farm guns. My AR mostly sees the recreational aspect of it with the occasional coyote blasting.

Pic is AR minus most hand guards, plus my CCW. Also my cat bathing all scandalous-like.

What's the least bad 16 inch barrel under 200$

>>30292221
is that a command arms grip? what even is it?

i guess re: your flash hider.

i really hate BCM's branding

anyone have an easy way to remove it or cover it?

>>30292224
>Larueminati shilling Mark Larue's dickbag self again
i never even shilled for it... wtf?

i don't own any larue products but i am pretty familiar with them at non-internet level, i.e. other family members own them.

I have had resistance issues mounting them on one of my non-AR rails. i didn't force it because i'm not stupid. why did you force yours enough to ruin your upper?

>>30292185
where did buy your ammo? waiting on mine too.. Sportsmansguide

>>30292240
it's a Larue grip

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>>30292149
Turns out I'd deleted them so I took new pics

Here's the damage to the top of the rail where it sat under the rear clamp.

>>30292250
paint.
>>30292274
placed an order monday with sg, i received ammo today.

>>30291984
Post it.

>>30292297
rustoleum will work right?

>>30292200
True story lol

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>>30292286
Here's rail width from an unmolested section of the upper where it was in front of the mount
>.835"

>>30292235
Faxon 16" pencil
http://faxonfirearms.com/16-pencil-5-56-nato-mid-length-4150-qpq/

Anybody paint rifles alot?

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>>30292316
And here it is directly between the rear clamps
>.831"

>>30292224
>If their mounting system wasn't pants-on-head retarded,
This wouldn't be the first gripe I've heard over LaRue's mounting system by any stretch. Oh well, ADM and proud.

>>30292263
>why did you force yours enough to ruin your upper?
Since when was "single finger closes lever" forcing anything? I'm not the fucking Hulk, a 1" lever should not give enough leverage to fucking mangle heat-treated 6000-series aluminum at any strength level a human is capable of.

>>30292185
Because they ship to me extremely quickly and have a pretty good deal on ammo. If there is a reason I shouldn't order from them I don't know it.
>>30292274
Yours will be in in july.

>>30292321
Most of us. What's up?

>>30292307
any paint will work. unless youre talking about a bcm brake, in which case maybe hi temp paint. flat black blends in pretty well.

its funny, a lot of guys who paint their rifles will mask off the bcm logo so everyone can see it

>>30292356
They lie about panics in their email flyers, then jack up prices literally 1000%.

Someone post that $100 USGI mag screencap.

>>30292360
I have seen some pretty cool paint jobs in arg and wanted to know a couple things.

1 What types of paint do you guys use for your custom paintjobs?

2 Does anybody have any guides for specific camo pattern painjobs?

3 If I paint my gun and fuck it up or don't like it how easy is it to strip or will stripping fuck up the rifle finish?

>>30292274
LAX?

never even fuckin heard of them before but they had the best deal. hope they didn't fuck me in the booty hole

>>30292371
I don't read their emails unless I'm looking for an ammo deal. I just need to know where to get cheap 62 grain consistently

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>>30292371
price gouging faggots

>>30292286
>>30292316
>>30292326
need some context man, lay it out for me stupid-like

what did it do? make it like a ski jump? or what? your rifle doesn't look like a safe queen so did you possibly abuse it at the mount which would pull the rail up too?

IF that's the case then that's actually a testament to the mount.... just sayin.

sucks your upper is fucked up though..

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>>30292379
1. regular paint works fine. aervoe if you want a spray paint thats a bit tougher.
2. youll need stencils for this but these pics are great
>http://www.russian-thunder.com/#!landscape-stencils/cpxv
3. "kleen strip" stripper works well (but its strong- some prefer citristrip), on some surfaces you might see a faint haze from the removed paint. once you paint a rifle and strip it, you might get 99% of it off but never 100%

>>30292379
Aervoe camo (spray)paint is the best. Krylon next best. Any enamel spraypaint will work though. If you're wanting to paint the barrel, use a high-temp enamel like engine block or grill paint.

Snakescale is the easiest. Go buy a $1 mesh laundry bag from somewhere like Dollar Tree, paint the gun a full base color, sack it up, and lightly spray stripes of at least one other differing color through the laundry bag. The tighter the bag is to the gun the better it turns out, and it looks best with significantly contrasting colors. Light basecoat with dark overlayer works better than the other way around.

More complex patterns require some form of stencil. These can be made with masking tape and wax paper (cover the wax paper with masking tape for rigidity, cut to desired shapes, remove wax paper and apply pre-cut tape to gun), or purchased commercially.

I don't know of any paint strippers that actually harm any of the finishes commonly found in AR's, but a few I have personally used with no issue are Citristrip and Krud Kutter graffiti remover.

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>>30290951
>5rds
>5rds
>5rds
>5rds
>5rds
lol

>>30292419
>>30292446

Thanks

>>30292200
Is this where you wanna be when Jesus comes back?

>>30292346
>a 1" lever should not give enough leverage to fucking mangle heat-treated 6000-series aluminum at any strength level a human is capable of.
7000 series if it's a Colt

It is possible to amplify leverage, especially the way the larue mount works I could see it happening. The rotating portion uses a slope and you're turning it on the centerline axis using that lever. Not hard to generate force using this method I think.

Don't force shit. You would have felt a warning resistance even if it was being amplified by their system...

Thanks for sharing though, maybe you're right and it's just an unnecessary design but i'm always skeptical. Like I said 99% of the time people are dumb and do stupid shit. I probably won't get a larue mount though.... still on the fence about it

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>>30292453
you missed one.
or can you not count past 5.

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>>30292470

>>30292412
I've since beat the shit out of the rifle but the gun had never been fired when I first mounted the LT104. Damage occurred on the first mounting.

As for context:
>order 6920 into LGS
>also order LT104 and Burris scope through LGS
>they arrive within a day of each other so have LGS mount and boresight scope (free service with purchase so why not)
>LGS warned me about Larue mounts and how this was a possibility (apparently not all of their mounts do it and it may/may not be a manufacturer defect)
>it does it, I was present when it happened, it was *not* the gunsmith's fault as I personally watched him close the lever with almost no effort with his index finger only
>we never did figure out what caused the gouges in the top of the rail as the bottom of the LT104 felt smooth
>try to return LT104 to Larue with explanation and pictures, only asking for a non-defective replacement
>they demand I ship it back on my dime for "refurbishment" instead of replacement or refund and are quite terse if not blatantly rude about it on phone
>get nowhere with 3 tries, eventually give up figuring I could sell it on barfcom and more or less break even, forget about it in parts bin until I get an even more fucked up upper in a trade that I don't care about and use it to build a poorfag-special .300blk

>>30292412
As for what it actually did:
>crushed the rail in, side to side, about 0.004" (four thousandths)
>turned up a ledge on both the front and back edges of 3 of the rail peaks
>took 2 gouges out of the top flats of those 3 rail peaks
>bulged the front-back sides of the rail peaks into the rail slots to where no other recoil lug or crossbar fits in them
So basically it fucked up the rail in all 3 possible dimensions.

>>30292498
I know, spam filter wouldn't let me do six so I had to reduce your shame by one.

Is skeletor canadian?

>>30292506
>>30292534
sounds to me like LGS fucked you over and are trying to pass it off as a larue defect but that's just my distrust of most gunfolk as they're not the brightest bunch it seems. down here anyway, not sure where you live...

I don't trust anyone dude. seriously.

i'm not saying larue is perfect or anything even remotely like that. when you introduce 'other fuckers' into the equation everything goes out the window. i've seen so many hamfisted retards who call themselves 'gunsmiths' do really stupid shit.

>So basically it fucked up the rail in all 3 possible dimensions.
man.... if it's really the mount's fault, that sucks dick but I really don't see how their mount can do that? it seems impossible. the slope pushes upward when you twist the lever doesn't it?

>>30292583
da

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>>30292583
yes

>>30292633
k just wanted to know if my assumption about the 5rd meme was right, really like your rifle and rig tbqh.

>>30292534
man the more i look at your pictures and think about it, i seriously dont think the mount did it

im gonna have to go fool with a larue mount and see how it could possibly do that.

that shit sucks though man, sorry your colt got rekt. i'd be beyond infuriated.

get yourself a replacement dude: http://www.specializedarmament.com/products/Upper_Receiver_Colt_M4_M4A1-362-289.html

sorry bout the price tho..... but at least it will still be a colt brand colt.

that wavy rail is no bueno for optics tubes, it's useless imo.

>>30292614
This is a gunsmith I trust. He's done work for me and several acquaintances before, he's school-trained with lots of experience, and is trusted by several high-end competition shooters in the area.

The shop also has an extremely good reputation and I've been a regular there for years. I can say with 100% certainty it was not the gunsmith's fault and I was present when both the rifle and the mount were first unboxed so I know they didn't pull a switch on me with the mount.

>>30292673
I don't see how it could be anything but. There's several archived threads on just about every other gun forum with nearly identical damage and people claiming a Larue mount (either LT104 or LT107) did it.

There was even one on barfcom where one of their "trusted industry smiths" articulated with diagrams how retarded their mounting system is that Mark Larue personally got involved in and flamed it into oblivion with profanity, personal attacks, and threats of lawsuits.

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>>30290845
race war

>>30292695
I'm sure you feel safe with them but I don't trust anyone. I don't care how many people rely on them.

Unless you were there the ENTIRE time and it was never left with them (opened box) I can't personally rule out they didn't do something to it or swap out one they fucked up and replaced or something shitty like that.

>>30292724
I've seen other threads (Burt) complaining about the mounts scratching/marking the anodizing but never have I seen anyone complaining about deformation of the rails themselves. Not saying you're lying, just I haven't seen it.

>There was even one on barfcom where one of their "trusted industry smiths" articulated with diagrams how retarded their mounting system is

I'd like to see that, might have to search for that unless you're up to finding it... Not a big deal if you aren't, you've already posted a bunch of shit (pics and whatnot).

I'm wary of Larue mounts now because of this discourse though. What would you get as an alternative? Like I said, a 1-4x is in my future at some point... Most mounts dont have that larue aesthetic and turn me off one way or another. ADM's are pretty cool looking though...

>>30292754
i like your pupper and your M4gery

>>30292770
I'd go with an ADM currently. I know they're slightly heavier, but that's because they use a non-retarded locking system.

I really really want Aero to make a QD version of their ultralight mount. Good QD scope mounts are pretty fucking scarce.

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>>30292871
Bobro

>>30292770
I was there the entire time the LT104 was out of its sealed box.

They did open the rifle box to check it in (as required by law) outside of my presence, but I inspected it before signing for it and it was undamaged.

>>30292754

Is 16 inch with 1:7 twist and heavier rounds good for racewar?

>>30292883
>240 doll hairs
I suppose if I had something like a Razor HD or a Nightforce, but that's both almost twice as expensive as an ADM and an ounce heavier for the similar style.

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>>30292869
Thanks. They're cuties

>>30292939
Anything is good for race war

>>30292871
>Good QD scope mounts are pretty fucking scarce.
i've noticed. i've never given much thought about other QD's because i always told myself i'd get a larue. didn't have to do any research.

i guess i'm looking for the lightest QD. thanks for the reasonable convo. ur p cool anon.

>>30292889
>They did open the rifle box to check it in (as required by law) outside of my presence
that's bullshit, they are not required to do that.

I had a shady FFL tell me that bullshit. I never went back to his dumb ass again. It took him 45 minutes to find my shotgun and transfer it to me because he didn't know where it was. When I finally did get it, he had opened the box claiming it was law.

I later asked my new FFL if that was true when I was picking up a pistol and noticed they hadn't even opened it yet. He said it's horseshit.

>>30292939
that's pretty much what most of us have breh.

carbine lovers anyway. i'm fixing to delve into loading my own 77grainers... shit costs too damn much to buy complete

>>30292944
Bobro mounts magically adjust their grabbing tension for whatever rail they're on without the need for user intervention. Very convenient!

>>30292989
FFL here.

It's common practice to verify the serial number on the firearm instead of the one on the box.

Manufacturers have fucked that up more than once, but the FFL is the one legally responsible if they transfer the firearm and record a serial number that's anything but the one on the receiver.

Moreover, if the serial on the gun DOESNT match what's on the box you *are* legally required to notify the shipper (usually a distributor), who's legally required to take it back and return it to the manufacturer.

As to whether it's actually required to do so I'm not sure, but that's what our ATF agent informed us as "best practice" and it makes sense.

I want to do a new build from scratch. Is buying a stripped lower with a "tensioning screw" the way to go? I noticed spike's tactical doesn't use them and all the LGS's carry spike's. I've seen some custom build AR's that had daylight coming through between the upper and lower and rattled like crazy. I know the barrel is attached to the upper and all that but I think it would drive be me crazy if I ended up with a rifle that wobbled.

>>30292170
Eat shit you fucking cuck, I was the one who posted the the tweet from fat fuck to begin with.

>>30291114

What hg you retarded faggot

>>30293027
It's user preference.

I've found that generally you have to have the tensioning screw so tight in order to actually eliminate upper/lower slop that it's a real pain in the ass to take the gun down, and generally either don't have them tight enough to fully eliminate slop, or don't use them at all.

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God damnit I need a life

So what is /arg/ doing this Wednesday night

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>>30293058
This

>>30293058
Jacking it and wondering whether I'll be in bed before 1am

>>30293036
Are you illiterate? It's literally stamped on the rail.

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>>30290845
nothing in particular. just general purpose rifle and some hunting.

>>30293050
Hmmm...I would rather buy a hand matched set but no one seems to sell them that way.

>>30293086
What barrel?

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>>30293058
This is the pinnacle of my night so far

>>30293018
yeah but if you're not a faggot you won't do that until the person is there. there is NO reason to open the box until the person shows up unless he says he's gonna be on vacation or some shit.

You can discover if the serial #'s dont match with the customer present right?

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>>30293065
Is your entire life one big wank stain?

>>30293067
>1am

It's only 9:30 here on the best coast you scum lord

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I hate leftists.

>>30293033
relax you poltard and gtfo

>>30293134
>west coast
>best at anything other than violating rights and importing brown people
Uh huh.

How's that Leland Yee infestation going? Or the cartels? Lose anything to a forest fire this month?

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>>30293058
probably gonna go out and hunt a cat

>>30293123
LOL

sharing this with my friend. very depressingly funny

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Angle grinding your rifle is not a meme.

>>30293161
B-but muh sunshine

>>30293164
Kill them all

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>KAC Vertical today, pic not related
Fuck i love ebay

>>30293081

Not only am I illiterate, I am salty and self conscious about it. So take you and your BCM hand guard and fuck off to high heaven.

Thanks tho. I was on my shitty phone and couldn't see.

>>30293215
You're welcome.
>obligatory KYS

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>>30293058
Fingering my PTR.

>>30293183
a2 to lopro conversion?

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>>30293119
BCM SS410 16"
I'm happy enough with the accuracy. I need practice though. only have 60 or so rounds through it so far. looks like it will be a keeper.

Okay I do not understand why some of you guys have expensive ass hand guards. Do you just have cash to burn or is there a method to your madness like free blowjobs for life if it fucks up?

>>30293269
>what are preferences

>>30293269
What do you consider expensive ass?

I can see spending a couple hundred bucks on a quality free float rail.

don't want some bulky shitty shapes piece of ship made of potmetal

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>>30290755

I just ordered a LaRue mount for my MRO (not the cantilevered one).

Is it going to destroy my Colt upper?

Did I fall for a meme?

>>30293250
the barrel is naturally free floating on g3 pattern rifles

does this excite you witcher anon?

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>>30293294
Of course.

>>30293269
What do you consider "expensive ass" handguards? Because almost all of the ones in /arg/ are $200 or less, and those that aren't are on mk18 clones.

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>>30291114
What upper did you get? I'm building off the same lower. I went with Noveske's M4 upper.

>>30293290
Maybe.

Yes.

>>30293250
You got it?

Fucking pictures right now faggot

>>30293265
Nice

>>30293290
Ur fukt

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>>30292944
>not paying more for your mount than your optic

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>>30293269
i make good money, so i spend it.

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>>30293315
those red mags, are those sand magpuls dyed in red?

>>30291787
Dork the full metal jacket would tumble, and deform, more of a wounding bullet,soldier that got hit, medic, driver to helio, medic on helio, nurses and Drs, xray personal,antheslogist. Now you have a bunch of people for one bullet.

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I just need a sling and maybe a hand stop or afg. What do you guys think of it besides the poorfag optic? I really like the trs-25 for the price.

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>>30293336
Yeah. Rit color is Cocoa.

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>>30293314
See >>30291173 too.

>>30293341
this just got me thinking....

what if they try to bring back the m855 ban? fuckers.

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>>30293360
looking at buying another sand mag to dye it red now.

>>30293365
NICE

Congrats dude

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>>30293256

Yes. Did it with an angle grinder with a cutting wheel and a grinding wheel.

Got a Fortis rail that clamps to the GI barrel nut.

>>30293394
how many rounds through that muzzle device roughly?

>>30293417
>Got a Fortis rail that clamps to the GI barrel nut.
oh i'm sorry to hear that

jk cool man

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>>30293422
no idea, its all from the suppressor and it does scrape right off. I just dont give enough of a fuck to clean it.

>maybe 3k-4k rounds

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>>30293436

People make fun of it, but it works well.

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i want snow again ;-;

>>30291983
That's my issue, all of the dam gas blocks that are adjustable are getting bought up and same for the BCGs.
I'm trying to not spend a futon on a BCG and just go with a nickel phosphor bolt but I may end up having to go more spendy.
Also why the fuck are buffer assembly kits so damn expensive?

>>30293233

Thank (You)

kys too bb

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Pinned 14.5 with bcm xtended a2 break. Aero upper and barrel with mega lower and car15 stock. Primary arms optic with mako buis and s&w flashlight. Weighs roughly 6.5lbs

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>>30293663
>>30293678
ok?

>>30293696
I like your hair

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>>30293678
Updated photo with current sling configuration.

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>>30293711
lol, i keep a high and tight now. Not the orange peel shit either.

>>30293725
I like a overall #2 shave

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Question.

Midlength or Carbine length gas system for a 16 inch barrel?

>>30293755
Midlength

>>30293755
Mid

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>>30293755
middy if your not tarded. I'm tarded. I have carbine.

>>30293772
>I'm tarded
We're well aware of that, but thanks for the confirmation.

>>30293784
Why ya gotta be hurtful?

Thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYThNUVZrYM

>>30293790
Cool shit. Expensive, but worth is in the eye of the beholder

>>30293790
I'd rather have a Gat Crank.

>>30293789
You have to be blunt to the retards otherwise they'll never get it.

>>30293755
carbean

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AR-15s are now officially more popular than AKs.

What a shitty post.

>>30293800
I'd rather have the Fostech over a Gat Crank

>>30293802
So hurtful, didn't even think of his feelings when you said what you did, 5mh f@m

>>30292406
COLT FACTORY GI ISSUED M16!!!!!
>COLLECTORS EDITION GUYS !!!
God damnit

Is the SIG mcx any good, the recent ISIS attack made me interested in it.

I never hear anyone talks about sig AR's, is it for good reason?

>>30293826
Sig 516, no bueno for Surefire suppressors. MCX is good from what I've read and watched. I would imagine that they probably function with Surefire suppressors.

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>>30293151
The 'new' rifle is sexy.

I feel like everyone has collectively lost their minds.

>>30293772
>>30293755

I do not understand what is being asked and answered here.

>>30293817
Gat Cranks are 40 bucks.really you could get both, if the Fostechg comes out of Preorder.

>So hurtful, didn't even think of his feelings when you said what you did
Because I don't care

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>>30293834
Hey get a headset yet?

>>30293855
he is asking about the length of the gas tube system on the AR15. Carbine is short, Mid length is in the middle and rifle is longest.

>>30293875
Hey get a larue barrel yet?

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>>30293875
No, I just killed like two hours on GTA collecting all those bullshit spaceship parts in singleplayer and watched 2 1/2 seasons of Eastbound and Down in the past two days on xbone. Very productive.

>>30293860
>Because I don't care
That's pretty darn rude of you to say that, mate.

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>>30293842

new2u

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>>30293855
Dude's asking for a recommendation for gas tube length on his AR

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>>30293855

Pic related.

As you can see, the length of the barrel and the length of the gas system are not necessarily always tied together. You can have the same length barrel and two entirely different gas system lengths.

The length influences a variety of factors, from what the ideal buffer weight should be, to the dwell time of the round, etc.

>>30293887
"Kys"

Sup /arg/, would anyone care if I made a belt-fed firearm of some sort intended to be mounted to a tripod HMG type mount, that used bumpfire + a butterfly trigger? It would bounce back and forth inside an assembly and still be pretty accurate, fixed sights and trigger extension on the mount.

Do dreams come true?

>>30293790
Four hundred and fucking 79 dollars for a trigger?

http://fostechoutdoors.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=85

>>30293965
The Atf might be interested

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What are some good 9 inch midlength quad rails?

Looking at Daniel Defense but is there anything else? I really wish KAC would make a 9 instead of a 9.5 for sbrs.

>>30293975
but muh b-bumpfire!

Damn you guys have some really nice guns

Does price difference in parts really make a difference? I mean is there any difference between like a $30 foregrip and a $120 foregrip? Or between a $100 stock and $400 stock? Or is it just a money pit for richfags and elitists?

>>30293999
>I mean is there any difference between like a $30 foregrip and a $120 foregrip?

This is more of an ak thing really but no. BCM, Magpul grips cost $25 to $30 which is what everyone here has. Most of these tripfags don't even shoot their guns and a lot of them have cheaper budget parts for things like aimpoint and surefires.

As for stocks, you can get a really nice one for $100 and $200 for the same thing but because it's ""SOCOM"" and LMT makes them for the military.

And yes, ar15's are moneypits. There's some really nice guns here but don't get sucked into the gucci faggotry

>>30294028
btw

Posted for TS

>>30293932
>>30293920
>>30293883

I understand now.

Thank you bros.

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>>30290994
How does the handle-mounted sight work? Is it easy to sight through?
I'd like to build an AR with an A2 UR because I think they look more elegant, but I'd still like the option of adding optics sometime.

>>30294138
Who is there?

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>>30294170

It was just Sigbro and I. We both hopped off for beddy-boo time.

>>30294186
Did you guys say goodnight to qb though?

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Kinda considering picking up a 20" upper because I have long-ass orangutan arms so I always feel crowded in on carbine length shit

Does anybody make just a plain jane 5.56/.223 20" upper, preferably with an A2 FSB, on the cheap?

>>30293093
I've seen one or two companies that do make them. But they're like $500-800 for steipped upper and lower matched pair.
Noveske makes a set and it's like $610
Really ducking beautiful, but really damn expensive.
My entire AR with new front flip up since I've already got a rear comes in at $800 before my non iron optic set I'm planning on later and I'm building it with hand picked mid range shit with cheap ass receivers and a top end BCG.
Barrel to me isn't too particular. In the army we didn't use Chrome lined barrels and our shot shot perfectly fine for accuracy to do the job, but I'm not trying to win competitions with mine. I want a utilitarian rifle that is decently accurate outo to 400m and dead on anything 300m and below.
I'll be springing for a nice optic likely, and I'm going to police and preload my trigger with a set screw and swap out the spring for a lower pull one from the standard mil spec set.
Biggest shot for me is free float barrel, nickel phosphate bolt, adjustable mid length gas block, 16" barrel, and fine tuning my trigger without spending $260 on the Giselle that I really want.
And of course the optic.
You can build a shitty rifle with a nice optic that will out shoot any day a stupid nice rifle with shitty optics

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>>30294299
I swear to fucking god autocorrect drives me insane

>>30293595
Rainer sells a milspec tube with an H buffer and spring for $55

https://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-milspec-buffer-tube-kit-coupon-code-sale-6695

>>30293250
At first I thought you set the rifle on the muzzle and dropped the stock to snap that pic like it was balancing on
>just the tip
Then realized it was resting on the muzzle and magazine.
>we lad
I almost raged there for a sec.

>>30294296
Check PSA m8

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>>30294296
Why not spend that money on a longer handguard?

>>30294340

They're out of stock on like fuckin' everything rifle-length.

Also, what's involved in headspacing a BCG to a new barrel? My current BCG is far from well worn, but if it's going to take anything other than just dropping in a go/no-go gauge to make sure it won't blow up on me, I guess I'll need to pick up a new BCG too.

>>30293300
I have to ask, why is your surefire remote on top of the handguard? I can't imagine it's practical for active use there...

>>30294348
You don't need to headspace it.

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>>30294341

Because I legitimately hate the way almost every aftermarket piece of furniture for ARs looks.

To get across how much of an AR hipster I am- I run skinny CAR-15-type handguards on my AR, and would run one of those tiny little stocks on it too if I could find one that wasn't expensive as christ.

>>30294348
A lot of anons have been asking about head spacing and my understanding is you won't really need to check but I'm not very knowledgable on that

>>30293371
Then it looks like it's time to finally fall for the 6.8SPC meme

>>30293595
>>30294299
Nickel boron.
I shouldn't have watched all those damn electro plating videos today, can't get phosphor out of my head now