Gear Queer: Gray Man edition

>gray man

More like rain man.

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>>29854354
For sport/competition, belt rig man pic up a chincom or something supplement it.

>>29854462
Holy fuck. Alright, battle belt and chest rig it is.
Hsgi suregrip, vtcas borkos, first spear brokos, or tyr tactical brokos belt.

Chest rig, bfg ten speed

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Anyhow my sicario cosplay is as close as I get

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>>29855209
>More like rain man.

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>>29855075
>ITT wannabe operators
I'll surely enjoy looting all this stuff from your bodies. Everyone packs a "medkit" and no medicine.

>>29855075
*Gay man

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Ultimate grey man.

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>>29855571
How are you going to loot their bodies when you used a suicide vest to kill them you fucking dune coon

>>29855075
This edition sucks and you should feel bad.

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>>29855588
>that pic

>>29855588
>he thinks I'd be killing them
>implying it wasn't their stupidity that killed them first
your toys will make nice trophies at the very least, 99% of you chumps will be dead in the first week of SHTF

>>29855547
what belt is that

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>>29855604
Tell me, will you make it past week one due to your stored fat from years of burrito bowls and the fact that no one will check your Mosque hideout for anything of value?

You can take that "bro" shit off your name. No one wants to "bro out" with your kind but liberal faggots.

>>29855641
>these projections
That's really cute, but it won't save you from rotting lad.

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>>29855659
>you're like, projecting anon.

I see those liberals I mentioned are rubbing off on you. Are you going to tell me about something you saw from a buzzfeed video next?

I just don't understand special forces cosplay

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>>29855675
It's just something else to do for fun. Like someone whose hobby is video games would spend a lot of money on old rare games and collectors edition releases.

So I was at the sporting goods store picking up some stuff before I go camping and I bought some of those really compact toilet paper rolls. I think I just found something to fill one of those empty pouches on my chest rig. You never know when you'll need to tactically take a shit.

>>29855871
>Not just putting the TP in your butthole so you don't have to wipe.

Or you can do what this >>29855571 fucking degenerate sand nigger does and wipe with your hand.

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>>29855075
>gray man
>tactical pants

>>29855547
>gray man
>dressed up like Delta Force

This is what a gray man looks like.

>>29855910
They're hiking pants from REI, simple quick dry pants senpai.

>>29856035
WOW, you can't even tell!

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>>29856035
>29856035

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>>29855075
I need to make a grey man setup. I only really have pic related

>>29855075
Is that a LV-MBAV?

>>29855588
Keep yelling dune coon while the dune coons have you by the collar of your super duper tactical vest and are fucking you in the ass.

>>29855209
this

>>29855910
This is what a gay man looks like.

>>29856351
Nobody expects a gay man.
I accidentally dated a gay man for a few day before finding out we weren't just buddies.
Had to break it off.
Nobody expects a gay man.

>>29856306
Where are you?

>>29855586
10/10
Would ignore in SHTF scenario

>>29856285
>make a gray man setup
I think you're missing the point. You don't need to 'make' a gray man setup. Just wear normie clothes (whatever that may be for your area) and try your hardest not to put on any tacticool shit. Normies don't wear plate carriers or MOLLE fagpacks

this Gray Man shit has gotten out of hand with you fagets. none of you are operators.

as a normal citizen, gray man means to me just looking normal and not attracting the attention of the police or niggers.

So I was wondering, do you think regular hiking boots, a blue polo, a windbreaker and cargo pants would be subdued enough for a grey man set-up?

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>>29855075
what lv mbav repro is that

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>>29856617
You're 100% correct.

>>29856620
Jesus Christ it's not rocket science. Grab the most boring shit in your closet and wear it.
>pic related; took me 30 seconds to grab this.

And no, the shirt doesn't ACTUALLY have to be gray.

>>29856678
If it's not grey what's the point

>>29856678
But I'm supposed to be meeting up with a doctor during my plan, and don't want to look too "grey."

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>>29855586
You've inspired me

On a scale of shoot on sight to completely incognito, how gray man am I?

>>29856904
Why did you take a picture of just your closet

can anyone pls recommend a cobra buckle belt? will be for cc/oc and daily wear

>>29856916
If you look closely, you'll see a grayanon

>>29856904
10/10, would infiltrate the Congo with

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>>29856668
pretty sure its the Crye Precision LV-MBAV

>>29856764
>I wanna be a gray man that sticks out

I can already tell whatever your plan is, it's already fucked..

Nice ass desu, OP

>>29855659
>lad

Of course. Why did I expect otherwise.?

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>>29856952
Cmon now.
I doubt anyone on /k/ has enough fuck you money to buy an lv MBAV for $1200

>>29856977
but its only 700 dollars bruh
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crye-Precision-Medium-LV-RBAV-Rare-True-Genuine-SOCOM-Vest-/252357155824?hash=item3ac1a89bf0:g:hrkAAOSw2GlXEW8e

for real though IIRC he got it for a lot cheaper.

>>29856937
Tuff products cobra belt. Comes in a few color combos and can buy on Amazon for about $80. Yes, pricey but it's a good, stiff belt that will last you a long time and hold your stuff tight and snug

situational awareness is an important aspect of the grayman concept.
dressing to blend in is great, but you're still going to get fucked if you don't have the tradecraft (kek) to avoid some feral niggers coming at you on the sidewalk

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>>29856853
>tfw viking

Do the gear queers know what shirt this guy is wearing in the range portion of the video? It looks comfy af
http://youtu.be/KanMzvFztbo

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>>29857007
That's the RBAV thoufh which is BALCS cut and basically an overpriced sleeper
The MBAV one is literally fuck you money expensive cause omg marsuck uses them
https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/322085770873

>>29856764
Why would you shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane?

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>>29857368

He got it from his kuwai desu navy seal onii-chan, and I'm ashamed you newfags don't already know this.

>implying you can be "gray man" when it's obvious you're actually Toad

>>29857413
At least you can talk

>>29857422
i don't really see anything wrong with dressing like this. what are all you g(r)ay men afraid of?
i'm a respectful, law abiding citizen. i don't fraternize with niggers and i rarely go out of my suburban home after dark.
what are you people trying to hide from?

>>29855075
Mug me /10

>>29856596
No I get that. I would just maybe like to have an easily concealable chest rig or something. With my extra pouches and hydration carrier my Gladiator is not easily concealable. It would be nice to carry extra mags in something other than my jeans pockets. I won't be wearing camo or tac pants so I won't have cargo pockets available.

>>29857368
still, its not like TOAD hasnt gotten other cool shit for good prices or just given to him.

like I said I talked to him when he was looking at one, it was way cheaper than that.
>>29857538
just wear cargo pants then.

>>29857422
It's kawai, you immense baka

>>29856853
One of the biggest indicators of identifying an operator that's grey man is shoes. They'll still most likely wear boots. Normal shoes suck for operating. Even for grey man. Guys will still most likely wear boots.

>>29857617
>One of the biggest indicators of identifying an operator
grooming is another. haircut, clean shaven, etc.
body language can also be a give away

>>29855209
This is a good joke. Congratulations.

Seriously.

>first post best post

>>29857577
It's actually kawaii.

>>29857617
>Being this dense.
We literally had a thread this week about operators wearing Nikes and trainers. Past week we had swat teams in blue jeans. You've been sold on the marketing idea that you must be tacticool to survive.

>>29856613
Where is this video. Can't locate on the LL.

>>29856620
Only if you're a big guy.

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>>29856620
i feel that this brings up a good point.
i live in San Francisco and there is a huge trend to wear tech clothing.
it's not unusual to see people wearing North Face/Patagonia/whatever jackets or vests, cargo pants, hiking boots.
this clothing is pretty practical in an urban setting like SF where a lot of people use public transportation and there are many micro climates that you might travel through daily depending on what part of the city you live in and where your destination is.
of course, there are subtleties that might set you apart such as brands that you choose etc...

anybody with a paracord bracelet gets shot first.

first for wearing a bracelet

second for making it out of paracord

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>>29858176
you should see a therapist anon.

>>29858193
>you should see the rapist anon.

>>29856678
But what if getting caught was part of his plan?

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>>29858219
>you should see the benis anon

>>29856904
>>29856904
I KNOW THAT HAT. I KNOW WHO AND WHERE YOU ARE

>all these people going nuclear at OP's pic

Looks fine to me in terms of basic functionality, not sure how well he'd blend in to wherever with that gear but it's not any worse than a regular gear queer setup.

>>29856295

Yes

>>29856668

>can't tell the difference between a repro and real deal
Not gonna make it

>>29855075

Solid set up

>>29857514

The point of gray man is to blend in with what other people are wearing, not look like a hobo.

>>29858176
fuck paracord bracelets

>>29858382
>implying I can tell the difference from a shit quality selfie
gfys anon

>>29858507

>you can't
jkysf

>>29856056
does his armor say "police"?

>>29857877
I'm not saying that they don't wear Nikes and shit. I'm saying that a lot of the time they'll wear something like Merells or Solomon's and that can be a pretty big indicator that this person is grey man operating. Of course not everyone does this. But from what I've seen a good majority tend to lower profile hiking boots.

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>>29855075
That actually works really well OP, depending on what people wear in your area obviously. Here I'd wear Dickies dungarees instead, most white people here dress like pick related.

>>29858193
you should put a teddy bear in that bag

>>29858622
one day when I actually buy one of those bags sure.

>>29858618
>Work innawoods in Western Montana
>Wear Carhartt double-front pants and durable, comfortable work-boots year-round
>never get looked at sideways

Feels good. I get stared at like a motherfucker pretty much everywhere other than the Northwest though.

Anyone know what shirt this is or who makes it?
Looks like a bitchin range shirt, it looks like a dry fit type of material

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>>29858857
forgot pic

>>29858570
Yes.

>>29858864
BOSS Rugby shirt

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>>29858894
ay u da man bb

>>29855075
>Live in New Mexico
>Get Away with wearing Wrangler Ranger pants with paint on them
>Wear some sort of plad shirt everyday
>baggyish because work outside
>wear Beanie and Aviators and get away with it because of brown
>manage to easily conceal 92FS, 2 mags, 2 knives erryday

I could probably integrate a plate carrier under the work shirt... but I already keep AK + duty belt in the trunk just in case.

>>29858774
Ha, that's fucking A man. Detroit sucks, but it's cheap and I can just head North for some property in the family. Wanted to find work up there, but all the towns are dying.

On the brightside, there's less paperwork here than in Chicago, and few people look twice at a guy wearing Carhartt or Dickies and loose work shirts.

>>29856853
>Don't be ripped
>Don't tell me what to do
It's not my fault I love being in shape. How is that in any way negative?

So would modifying a type 81 chest rig be a decent way of getting a competent poorfag rig?

I mean like adding snaps/buckles on the back, a few pads around the shoulder areas, potentially replacing the toggle system with snaps or velcro, ext...

>>29858314
Give me a town name senpai. We'll see if you know what you're talking about.

>>29859765
Yea it is pretty popular in these threads. As for the pads you might want to see how the rig feels with a pack over it and if you would want the extra bulk from the pads.

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posting it again lol

>>29859765
SADF m83 is essentially a modified Type 81 and they're god-tier.

I say do it up fampai

>>29856035
>g36c
Wtf how? What is that airsoft?

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>>29855075
>that shirt
>grey
You stick out like a sore thumb. Niggers are gonna be like

>Shit, the fuck's that white man doing?
>Bet he's got tons of supplies
>I want his fresh white booty

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>>29859765
I put one of these things on the back strap of my type 81. Its one of the best choices I've made

>>29855075
>Grey man
>Tactical pants and hicking boots
Just wear some cheap outlet store jeans like a normal person if you want to blend in, sure gearfags think they suck but like 95% of the population wears them.

>>29855075
Is that one of those HTC belts? Shit's fuckin pricey yo. I thought about getting one but I just can't bring myself to pay $500 for fucking plastic. At least plastic that doesn't comprise an integral part of a firearm.

>>29856904
I have never laughed this hard at a picture on the internet before

>>29859961
I'm glad to have brought you joy anon.

>>29858176
1. wehraboo/nazi patches
2. cishet males
3. paracord bracelets
...
999. imminent threats to my life

>>29859972
Where did you get that hat and where can I get one

>>29856853
generally "greyman" involves having more capability than an everyman while not looking any different

but mall ninja pants won't work. if you need or want extra pockets, they should be sewn in to a pair of normal pants in a manner that doesn't make them visible

>>29857617
boots are good for two things: military parade and punk shows. if you're not doing either then low cut shoes generally do a better job because they're lighter. shiny black boots look excellent, but aren't super practical. what exactly are you doing that requires your shoe to extend up your leg?

>>29859990
I bought it at a town fair like 10 years ago. I have no idea where you might find one besides maybe a party store or a costume shop or something.

>>29859853
Messi is that you

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>>29860020
Sorry, no.

>>29855588
>that pic
>me in a nutshell

Gotta have a sword to back up muh M249 that backs up muh M60

>>29859994
Boots are good for more than two things friendo. Off the top of my head:

>any kind of manual labor
>ankle support when carrying weight
>overall durability
>keeping feet dry in wet terrain

If you were right and boots had no real utility people wouldn't wear and use them.

Are they necessary for most people's everyday use? No.

But a good pair of well-fitted, well-built boots with stitchdown soles will last a lifetime.

Yes, you can cover more ground faster in lighter shoes (depending on conditions).

Context is everything. Always.

>>29859104
Because (in most places) most people aren't. It isn't normal. It will get you noticed.

>literally the opposite of what you want in being 'greyman'
>literally what we've been talking about this whole thread

>>29856035
>>29856056
Is this greyman or Tom Clancy's: The Division?

>>29855547
ur hot

can anyone tell me a good plate carrier that comes in ATACS-FG

>>29860104
>that guys fit
>he must operate
Totally something a normie would say.


Maybe if you stepped into a gym once in your life you'd know meat monkeys are a regular thing

>>29860280
>>It will get you noticed
>that must mean he's saying when a normie sees a big guy, he automatically thinks he's fucking DEVGRU

I see your line of reasoning, but you are wrong and dumb.

>>29859994
what exactly are you doing that requires your shoe to extend up your leg? A job that requires steel toed safety shoes maybe, or walking around where snakes and tall grass are present.

>>29860315
Getting noticed casually doesn't defeat gray man.
Defeating gray man would be standing out and obviously noticed/studied because you're out of place

>>29859994
>what exactly are you doing that requires your shoe to extend up your leg?
working outside of an office you bitch

>>29860362
Out of curiosity would you wear jeans for grey maning?

>>29860411
I don't wear jeans often to begin with, but yeah jeans are common, that or khakis or some other dad mode clothing.

>>29860362
True, but I'd say it depends on what you're doing

Greyman is such a broad concept with a lot of wiggle room, but the general rule of thumb is to be boringly average, that, taken along it's logical path, goes further than just tats, bizarre hair-dos, and the clothes one wears.

But if you're not a spook or even in a red team, actively making sure your body is average to play greyman is pretty fucking autistic I grant you.


>>29860411
If you're trying to blend-in in an office environment? No. Casual day to day in a normal western town? Of course.
How many ways are there to say "be normal"?

>>29859868
that's why you have a semi-auto rifle with you, and if they get within 75 yards, shoot a couple. Forget this gray man shit, just wear what you want and train with what you would wear. If you're going lightly armed to a riot or mob rule situation where you're not "one of them", just don't do it. Noone's paying you to infiltrate any groups and bring them down. Just stay alive by not getting yourself into shitty situations.

>>29860217
just buy an od one and sponge some baby shit all over it

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Cyre field pants look really nice. I'm going to try to by this Beretta, and then I'll see about getting operator pants.

>>29855614
Tyr tactical gunfighter

>>29855910
>as close as I get
My "greyman" plan is a ccw and a small backpack Ifak with a water bottle. Just need to turn 21 first.
>4 months to go

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Are you faggs even trying?

>>29860528
>Are you faggs even trying?
are they?

>>29860524
>Just need to turn 21 first.
can you smoke and drink legally?

You niggers really love playing dress up

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>>29860528
>those boots

Fuckin hawt. Anyone know what those are?

>>29860507
i dont wanna do that. if i had an od pc and atacs fg clothes on would that look gay

>>29860868
well get ranger green and sponge some baby shit all over it. noone's going to care about the base color of your pc when you're covered in baby shit anyway.

>>29861050
>sponge
i dont want to do this though senpai. does no one make an atacs fg pc?

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Redid this patch design, What do you guys think?

>>29861067
Pretty sure mayflower has some special runs

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>>29855075
Not grey man so srry pls forgive me Padre. But I'm a poor fag who has slowly been building a setup. I just picked up the Chicom rig on a whim today and it's definitely the best 25 dollarydoos I ever spent and so I was wondering what you guys thought of my setup. Keeping in mind it is still a work in progress. I also have a pistol belt not pictured and the pack is set up to go to the range/ no guns hiking right now as that's what I'm doing this weekend

What are useful things to add to your kit that people don't normally think about?

>>29861170
condoms

>>29861120
thanks ill look

>>29861187
This

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>>29857368
>>29857550
>>29857422
>>29856668
I got it for freeeeeeee. Don't trip anymore since so much of GQ is bandwagon appeal to authority shit, but step it up fampais.

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>>29861298
I think you should find a good plate carrier first, then worry about colors.

Ranger green and atacs fg looks fine

Ranger green will look nice if you do wear something else

Ranger green stuff, especially the pouches will be 100% easier to find.

Warrior DCS makes atacs fg plate carriers and pouches

>>29861298
warrior assault systems has them, if you're really against sponging baby shit on yourself.

>>29861472
mfw blu recommends the same thing as me

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>>29861363
I'd appeal to your authority any day toad.
(Im not gay, but if toad and koko wanted Eiffel tower me, I wouldn't resit)

But seriously, we're not as bad as /arg/ with, them, recommendations are hive mind as fuck

Psa
Bcm
Primary arms
Trijicon
Surefire
Gessielle
KAC

If your rifle doesnt have something from at least half of these companies, it's shit.

Here at least there's arguments for chest rigs and plate carriers, battle belts and gun belts, holster types, mag pouch styles, hydration pack attachment to PC or not, solid vs camo.

There's different taste and styles that keep this thing from stagnation and devolving into goat posting.

Ranger green chest rig recon target 4 lyfe

>>29860524
>Just need to turn 21 first.

God damn it, didn't realize that I was a whole 7 years older than blupablo. Fuck now I feel old.

>>29859104
>Tfw when round is the only shape I would ever want to be in

When I can get away with a very slight beer gut, muscled legs chest and arms, because of 25 mile daily bike rides (great cardio, great leg workout, thanks to bike security job) and still be able to outrun the average guy, that's what I would call a grey man body. Plus, I won't starve as fast as the average dude "in shape"

Basically, try and look like the average WWE wrestler.

>>29860217
>>29861298
Warrior (Assault Systems) have their RICAS and DCS models in ATACS-FG

http://www.uktactical.com/c-344-elite-ops-a-tacs-fg-armour-rig.aspx

Can't remember where to pick up Warrior stuff in the US, Chase Tac I think

>>29856419
>I accidentally dated a gay man for a few day before finding out we weren't just buddies

I did the same thing Anon. Still friends with the crazy bastard though.

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>>29860856
Probably some Diemme's knockoff since I highly doubt that some ruskie operators have the money to spend $400 on a pair of boots.

Gets this faggot shit out of /k/!!!!!

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>>29862407
here is your (you)

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Is the Slickster carrier any good?

>>29860217
>>29862247
Gearzonetactical.com

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>>29856904
'S not bad m8

>>29862616
My friend who's a die hard Ferro fan says he wish he'd gotten the Perroz designs carrier over the Slickster

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waiting on plates in the mail
i need more magazines too
any other recommendations?

>>29855209
8/8

>>29862357
Fuck, why do I have to have such expensive taste? Those are some pimpin-ass boots.

>>29862756
>any other recommendations?

Get a real AR.

>>29862756
Buy useful camo

>>29862788
dont want one
>>29862828
whats not real

>>29862844
I said useful not real.
Night desert sucks

>>29862756

Get a better holster and lose the drop leg.

>>29862860
its just pants i have other pants, all i had with me atm

>>29862756
Please burn that holster and get something made of kydex

>>29862863
>>29862871

yeah ive been thinking that

>>29862868
ATACS isn't much better

Taking a look at this thread I think more than a few people are confusing what gray man is in fiction with what it is in reality.

In the real world if OP walks past you on the street carrying a messenger bag and a casual demeanor you are not going to notice him. Real people do not see a man wearing hiking pants and jump to the conclusion he's wearing body armor, a gun, and IFAK. That's a logical leap that does not occur in reality.

Gray man is not about looking like you're a hobo with no supplies in some imaginary SHTF situation. Gray man is not about looking like you have no dark zone loot. Those imaginary situations are the gray man concept utilized in fiction.

>>29862881
why not?

>>29862756

Why is your dump pouch on your right side if you're right handed?


I swear to god 20 minutes of airshit would help most autists in here figure out how fucking retarded their gear setup is.

>>29862901
shit you got me there

>>29860478
What's "gray man" depends on your situation and your needs. For a guy who is doing executive protection "gray man" means rolling in an soft-skin sedan and wearing a shirt over his plate carrier. You can get away with a surprisingly bulky rig if you're sitting in a car and not having to walk around. It doesn't necessarily mean being a super ninja that nobody will remember or being a master of disguise.

>>29855209
Can someone explain this?

>>29860280
>go into a tire shop
>see tires
>what do

How many tires do you see Rollin around parentless friend

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>>29862720
But yer fergetin the party liqour.

>>29862756

Get a helmet cover, use your gear, get an optic that isn't shit, get a holster that isn't shit. Why do you have that gay carabiner? I don't care about your meme camo.

>>29860079
There are some arguments that light weight footgear is better for rucking (within reason) because weight on the foot really kills your efficiency, much moreso than weight on your back.

>>29855659
Stay unknown. A name like yours on /k/ is like open carrying an ak where ever you go. Be a gray man. Be anonymous.

>>29862945
carabiner holds my camelback suck tube in place handy and holds my helmet when im not wearing it.

>>29862898
ATACS doesn't have a very effective macropattern so at long range it all visually blends into one color.

>>29862926
If you aren't seeing fit people in your life you should probably go somewhere else than mcdonalds.
>>29862898
This>>29862984
And IIRC it didn't even make finals for the new camo pattern for the US army

So is there any reason to get a Chinese type 56 (3 cell) chest rig over a type 81 (4 cell)?

I notice lots of people tend to pick the type 56 and was wondering if there's any reason behind it.

>>29862984
do you have like a good vs bad photo showing this?

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>>29862968
>tfw tripfags would have the hardest time going grey man because of their ever burning desire to constantly get attention

>>29862928
I like that drill press you got in the background.

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>>29861162
>woodland
>alice
>chicom

bueno

>>29862756
that is my favorite meme camo.

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>>29855075

This is about as Grey man as I get.

>>29856285

Black out those reflective tabs on your boots son.

You ain't jogging in your boyfriend's neighborhood.

>>29863014
Sorry, no. There aren't really that many people taking long distance camo comparison pics. That said if you look at the coloration you can kind of see it. It's just green, sand, and greenish brown mixed together, with very little contrasting elements and with a gradual transition from color to color. What happens is at distance your eyes can't resolve every little difference in color so your brain just kind of fills in an approximation, and the lack of contrast on the ATACS camo patterns means you just fill in "kinda green" or "kinda tan"

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>>29855209

>>29862756
Magnifiers are fucking garbage
Eotechs are too, get your damn refund.
And an american sig rifle.

I might go get my rifle and blow my head off.

As for the gear
>dump pouch on dominant side.
Retarded. Switch places with that other GP pouch on your belt.

Put that pistol mag pouch on your belt. When you transition to pistol, rifle ends up on your chest, in the way of your pistol reload

I'm seeing 4 pistol reloads, which I mean, I guess because you have a 1911, but I'd drop it to 3 reloads regardless.


>>29862881
It's what he has and it will still do better than solids. He's got bigger problems than atacs

>>29862888
The division (which is a shit fucking game) kick this new wave off.

>>29863105
i appreciate the explanation. it makes sense. i just think it looks sexy up close

>>29863105
>There aren't really that many people taking long distance camo comparison pics.
>What happens is at distance your eyes can't resolve every little difference in color so your brain just kind of fills in an approximation
Why aren't you popping in on the ACU/OCP-bashing threads to say this? All these fucking kiddies who've never seen it outdoors, at distance, with natural backgrounds.

>>29863105
This is bullshit. Atacs works well beyond 20 meters.

>>29863144
Uh, OCP works. Like, very well.

>>29863145
>20 meters
>far
Uhhhhh okay man. I'm thinking about 100-200m, maybe further depending on terrain.

>>29863181
you know what else works at 100-200 meters? standing behind a wall or a tree.

>>29863181
Let me capitalize this shit for you.

BEYOND 20 meters.

>>29856285
>retroreflective bits on the shoes
not covert

>>29863034
thanks dawg, harbor freight.

>>29863202
>magically sensing all life forms within 200 meters so you can hide behind a tree just in time.
Yeah using concealment works but you can do that with any camo. Sometimes you're going to be moving and not know the exact position of enemies at distance. Or you're going to be doing a break contact battle drill and you're going to be exposed as you do your bounds. Better camo is still better, tactics notwithstanding.

>>29863211
>ATACS works well beyond an entirely arbitrary distance, but I don't have any evidence or real support to say why.
Some people would say wearing a fucking Kermit the Frog suit is effective at certain distances. But is it a better or worse camouflage than its competitors? Camo "working well" is relative.

>>29863181
Dude, 200 fucking meters? At that distance camo patterns aren't visible anyways. The most important thing is having brightness and colors that closely match the environment.

>>29863256
this is probably the worst bullshit post I've read in a while.

You can't see a camo pattern beyond 100 yards. Give the fuck up.

>>29863256
>some people
Yeah, you. I'm one person who is challenging this. Atacs works well at distance given that you are wearing the aporopriate woodland FG or arid AU pattern relative to the environment.

>>29863256
>camo magically making you invisible while moving in the open

>>29856938
I've stared ar this photo for hours there is no way

>all this atacs fg hate
lmao what are different environments?

>>29863272
>>29863301
Tell me you can't tell the difference between M81 and Multicam at 100 yards. Hell I bet you could see a visible difference between M81 and MC Tropic at 100 yards. Whether or not you can see the pattern depends on the effectiveness of pattern design.

>>29863307
>ATACS works because I said so, but I can't provide any reasons.
I see no reason why anyone should choose ATACS over proven patterns like Multicam.

>>29863341
>All this salt and strawmanning
Never said another camo would make you invisible. Just that one that works better would make you harder to pick out. If you're moving it's not just in the open, there oftentimes will be visual obstructions as you move so enemies will have to reacquire you.

>>29863374
not that anon but it is very green near me and multicam sticks out way more

>>29862917

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_Man

He's implying the thread is retarded.

>>29863301
>You can't see a camo pattern beyond 100 yards.

Someone doesn't know the difference between a micro and macro pattern. There's a good reason why ATACS got BTFO during the last Army camo selection.

>>29863374
>I see no reason why anyone should choose ATACS over proven patterns like Multicam

Retard, the atacs patterns are area specific. They are superior in densely vegetated and desert environments.

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>>29863374
>hurr use multininja in a green environment
kys faggot

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HEY JUST ME MULTININJA STICKING OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB

>>29863374
You can tell the difference because they both blend into a blob of color. Like any other camo out there, even OCP. You will a big coyote motherfucker standing there in the open.

>>29863421
>>29863429
>>29863443
Buddy, there are alternate colors for MC. Also chill the fuck out and make one post instead of 3, because this is getting ridiculous.

>>29862756
NOD
Better rifle
Better optics
Hydration souce
a hatered for sub par holsters

>camo edition

The spill over from milsurp is here. Strap in boys, this bitch is heading to 310.

I just fucking get how every 5th gear thread we can have the same damn arguments about the same patterns. Find some shit that works in your area. Fuck.

>>29863471
>Find some shit that works in your area.
no everyone has to wear multicam

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>>29863429
>>29863443
i love how the guy in m81 is completely invisible in both of these pictures.


make camo great again.

>>29863459
why are you to retarded to realize that certain camos are better in certain environments

>>29863395
Yeah the Army knows camo patterns well, says never served. Look how great UCP was. Thank you for your examples, anon.

>>29863486
I do get it and I don't personally feel the need to wear green endor camo when there's other green camo on the market.

>>29863490
>Hurr UCP was bad so everything the Army chooses must be bad
>never mind that the testing and selection process was completely different this time and the selected camo was already proven in combat by US and allied SOF and line units.

>>29863522
>only one green camo is allowed!!1!11
did atacs fuck your wife?

>>29863490
>I don't know how UCP was created
>I don't know how phase IV patterns were down selected
>I'm going to pretend UCP was the finalist of any field trial

You don't know shit and you keep embarrassing yourself.

>>29863522
>hurr I trust the army to make a better selection this time

good luck with that dumb fuck. Multicam is good for Afghanistan and that's why it's in use. Trying to extend that to anything other than subjective use in America is retarded.

>>29863556
>I'm not going to pretend that UCP wasn't used as universal pattern in every environment the US goes to.

Wait, I'm embarassing myself? Seems like you're the apologist.

>>29863583
>I still don't know why UCP was adopted
>I'm going to assert it's existence thereby discredits any scientific testing done regarding camouflage patterns

Pro Tip: UCP was never a part of any field trials. And using it as a basis for an argument against said trials is fucking retarded, just like you.

>>29863548
Jesus christ, I make a post telling an anon why people don't like ATACS and I get to spend the whole time arguing with retards like you. Did multicam kill your dog or something?

>>29863562
Meh. Army can select good stuff sometimes. The result of choosing MC/scorpion is probably a result of wanting a universal pattern and not seasonal uniforms, so it's not a 100% comparison. Obviously you want to choose a camo that works for your region but if you want to go alternate green/tan routes then you have options like MARPAT knockoffs or the seasonal MC variants.

>>29863583
>Not understanding what "finalist of field trial" means
>showing your ignorance of how UCP was developed
Buddy, this is just pathetic. Read more and then come back.

ONLY ONE GREEN CAMO IS ALLOWED

>>29863628
Holy shit you are an autist, why didn't I realize sooner.

>>29863627
you """reasoning""" is retarded. i just proved how its better than multininja in environments that it was developed for yet here you are spouting about multicam and its godly camo abilities everywhere.

>>29863653
>here you are spouting about multicam and its godly camo abilities everywhere

Literally no one is saying that but you.

>>29863672
uhh are you retarded? im saying atacs is better in green environments. stupid ass

>>29863653
>can't even use quotes properly
>can't even prove anything, just randomly making claims
>lacking basic knowledge about history of camo or even what camos are available right now

I'm fucking done, you're too retarded to waste time on.

>>29863687
>can't even use quotes properly
what are you going on about? dumb retard

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>>29863627
Not the guy you're replying to, but I do think multicam is really a good pattern. However, area specific patterns work better in some places.

Even the people at Crye Industries know this.

>>29863708
Yes, I agree 100%. You'll notice I've mentioned the regional MC patterns a few times already but the retard I'm arguing with doesn't know that MC Tropic exists, so he continues to claim I want to use regular MC in the jungle or some shit.

>>29863720
so only mc tropic can exist?

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>>29863685
>atacs is better in green environments
>atacs

You do realize ATACS is just a brand name now? Sort of like Multicam? Or did you really mean to imply that the original base pattern ATACS is better than Multicam transitional in wodland environments? Because that's wrong, you stupid nigger.

>mfw first official atacs marketing was all badly photoshopped (pic related)
>was literally a Freedom Group marketing gimmick
>couldn't even pass first phase down select in latest field trials

ATACS is literally a meme.

>>29863781
atacs FG my bad ya dumb nigger. i didnt realize people were this slow that i would have to add fg after the 10th post about it

>>29863756
Where did I ever say that?

>>29863799
Makes sense to me since you don't seem to realize regional MC variants exist.

>>29863820
so people can only use mc variants? fuckin mc fanboy faggot

>>29856678
literally what I wear on a daily basis when not at work

Jesus christ I didn't realize Crye had this many shills on 4 chan

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>>29863799
>I was only pretending to be retarded

Yeah, we're done here. Enjoy your meme camo.

>>29863859
im not pretending shit you faggot, we have been discussing atacs fg. you are stupid to assume we are talking about atacs after the 10th post on fg.

kys

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>>29861949
apparently I'm older than blu by like a month

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Why are there so many shades of multicam? Some looks more green and some is very light. I want to get set up with some multicam gear as I live inna desert but plan on bugging out up north where there's forests. I dont want to end up with mismatched shit.

Also do I have to wear an army style shirt, they seem very thick and it's hot as shit here. I can't find any polyester options for a top.

>>29864344
lots of different dyes and fabric combinations have been used to make multicam pattern. they'll all look different. just buy surplus ocp/scorpion and you won't have a problem with mismatched clothes

those shirts are fine, not any hotter than a dress shirt. NYCO > poly

>>29864333
Mom is that you

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>>29855209

>>29855586
I wish we shared a bunk.

>>29862928
Put the rum back in the freezer you pussy.

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>>29863845

Multicam just works yo

Fuck greyman. No seriously, fuck greyman.

New concept I call anonymous badass. Minimum edc, and plenty of training learning to use everyday items around you to get shit done.

Look up a book called 100 deadly skills. It's a good starting point.

>>29865959
Dumb

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>>29865959

Calm down Jason Bourne

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>>29858176

>>29863471
>being this salty because your dumb camo choice is shit on

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Might be a stupid question, but what woodland BDUs are MARSOC etc issued? Or are they just using old supply?
Milsurp woodland got kinda expensive here, so might as well go for something new.

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Sports jerseys are great for this

>>29866313
Custom made Cyre Precision combat pants and shirt. Pretty much unavailable unless you're in MARSOC

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>>29866404

Like this guy said.

You can find them on Ebay but they're almost always crazy expensive. That is if operating in the equivalent of a 3 piece tuxedo is your thing.

>>29866423
>>29866404
Thanks! Nah, I was just looking for some nice pants in woodland. Might go for the old surplus ones then.

>>29855075
The whole grey man concept is the most over analyzed and over thought thing I've ever heard.

You guys are literally thinking as hard as you can how to dress normal

I just don't get it.

>>29862720
Josh?

>>29860528
But I don't want to be the Ts from office

>>29861523
How do I get a luscious ass like yours?

As in like, make my ass nice. Not get laid with a man with a nice ass. That'd be gay.

>>29863457
"You will a big coyote mf out in the open"
> English, do you speak it

>>29863781
But multicam isn't it's brand name, it's brand name is crye precision

>>29866816
No, Crye Precision is the company. There's an entire family of MC patterns.

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>>29855075
>>29855547
>>29855586
>>29855910
>>29856035
>>29856056
>>29856613
>>29856678
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>>29856952
>>29857152
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>>29864333
>>29865587
>>29866322
You call that grey?
CIA-Tier moving through.

>>29867232
A war zone is the perfect cover for the Zodiac's crimes.

>>29856613
>no ear pro
EEEEEEEEE/10

>>29860104
This has got to be the sorriest excuse yet for not working out.

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>>29867759
I'm not saying don't be fit, I'm saying that if your goal is to blend in and not be noticed for whatever reason then you need to be average, having people mirin your gains isn't desirable. Average people aren't fucking jacked

Jesus Christ I give up with you people...

>>29867836
Nigga, just say "wear a somewhat loose fitting long sleeve shirt"

more on topic; Comms.

Total noob at this but why is the baofeng UV5R always spouted as the go-to radio when seemingly better alternatives exist? Why not the UV-82HP or BF-F8HP which are more powerful? more wattage means more range right?

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>>29867868
lemme just make this a bit more eye catchy

>>29867836
You know that even if you're big as fuck and you put on a loose-ish hoodie or even a button up shirt you'll look normal, right? Just look at how Pat Mac looks in a long sleeve shirt. You'll look athletic, maybe like you play basketball for fun or whatever, but definitely not attention grabbingly big.

>>29865877
Anyone that puts liquor in the freezer is a pussy. What's the matter? Your little girl mouth can't handle the burn?

only one green camo is allowed

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>>29867263
I will never get tired of this joke.

>>29867232
>replying to over 10 posts with 1 sentence.

There's a special place in hell for you people

>>29866404
>Pretty much unavailable unless you're in MARSOC

>still believing this meme

>>29868163

They're not sold commercially so your only option is second hand biding wars with other airshit cosplayers. And no, DriFire FROG uniforms are NOT the same thing.

>>29862616
... God Dammit IAN

>>29866535
Being born latino

>>29865877
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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>>29867868
It's cheap and it works. There are also programming guides posted on here all the time. I use one, and can't complain, works great.

>>29868180
>And no, DriFire FROG uniforms are NOT the same thing.
you're right, they're better

>>29867868
I have a baofeng UV5R5. Decent starter or backup radio. Problem with them is programming them without a computer is kinda a pain. They also aren't that durable and are susceptible to water. What annoys me about them is that you can't lock certain control groups, so you could accidentally transmit when you shouldn't.

For my primary, I use a Yaesu ft-260. Much easier to program and it is fairly waterproof and durable. They do cost 5x as much but are worth it IMO. You do have to do a very simple mod to allow for a wider range of TX frequencies. The water resistance and the ability to lock just the transmit keys is what sold me on it. I can also put a scrambler in it to maintain a casual level of secrecy, but it seems that is illegal without certain licenses.

Transmission power doesn't always mean better range due to topology and atmospheric conditions, it just gives you better signal strength. If you are on flat ground a higher TX power will allow for greater range, but you are not going to communicate over the horizon all that well without an antenna that is higher up. A roll up antenna is a nice thing to have because you can hang it high or just throw it up in a tree or whatever to extend range. You do need a HAM license to use TX power over 1w IIRC.

The baofeng are a great intro to radios, but only because they are cheap and compatible with a lot of accessories.

From what I remember, the higher wattage models don't really give better results, but that may have changed since I was looking around. There is a nauseating amount of baofengs with slight changes and variations.

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>>29858193
What bag?
>>29856035
>>29860528
Hoodies make you 15% more incognitorator

>>29866483
Buy some 50/50 nyco woodland pants from Propper like 50ish dollars. I can get them brand new for $40 at my local milsurp store

>>29867206
I know there are other patterns. Original, tropic, alpine, arid, but those are only the names of the pattern, the actual brand name is crye precision.

>>29869142
Run down on the pistol, now.

ok fellow gear queers. I am able to pick up a Five Seven with a holster, 2 20rd mag, 1 30rd mag, a holster and 1000 rds for about $1500. It's through a dude at my work. It's lightly used and apparently in good condition. I feel like this is a really good deal for all that shit. Should I do it /k/?

>>29869884

If you like useless memeguns then by all means.

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>>29869844
Sig SP2022 in 9mm. SS Slide, Tritium Sights. Nabbed it for 440 doll hairs from my local gunshop as a deployment gift.

>>29869901
I know it's a memegun. The only reason I want to buy it is because with all that extra stuff it's a good deal because on arms list they go for like $1300-$1400 by themselves. Without the extra mags, ammo, and holster.

>>29869844
>>29869940
Woops, Im tired and retarded.

Radical Firearms 10.5"
DD Irons with Trijicon Tritium irons
KAK Shockwave brace
LAW Sidefolding adapter
Kinetitec muzzlebrake

Other basic bitch magpul stuff

>>29869142
Refactor Tactical ASO bag.
I really want one.

>>29855586
>>29856904
>>29862720
>>29862928
It's GREYman not GAYman . Come on.

JK, you two would be fun to drink with.

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>>29863374
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From milsurp thread, why do you guys in these threads always think multicam and atacs are the only choices?

Do none of you guys use foreign camos? I'm not talking about basic stuff flecktarn or portuguese lizard, but rather modern digital stuff, or just foreign stuff in general.

If you guys are willing to spend $500+ on a cyre precision shirt in multicam or scorpion, you might as well spend that money on a whole set (uniform, rain gear, ECWCS equivalent, ruck, etc.) of another nation's gear. ESTPAT and CADPAT work very well in heavily vegitated environments, and lots of middle eastern countries have gotten their arid and desert patterns just about perfect.

Open up your options guys, and with the money you saved from by considering all of them, you can buy the next upcoming tacti-cool accessory for your ar platform.

>inb4 I'm going to bring up an ineffective pattern from a country and claim that because they used it in the past it negates any farther progress they've made.

Sure.

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>>29871583
>500 for a crye multicam shirt
nigga you autistic.
I paid $75 for my Crye shirt