/akg/ AK General

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>>29619567

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How about the attention whoring is kept to a minimum this time.

>>29619607
Ha ha right out of gate. You truly revel in their hate, don't you?

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>>29619672
K, but just for today I'll go tripless.

>>29619672
I find the thumbhole stocks on VEPRs to be really sexy. They take their own magazines right? If they start importing 7.62x39 VEPRs, I couldnt use my existing supply of mags right?

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>>29619692
>If they start importing 7.62x39 VEPR

They have been since like, the 90s

>I couldnt use my existing supply of mags right?

You can if you install a bullet guide, which takes like 10 minutes.

What is /k/'s opinion on WASR-10?

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>>29619684
I'm just enjoying my "AK". Like I've said before, they're more than welcome to piss, moan and shitpost about it.

>>29619692
>If they start importing 7.62x39 VEPRs
They're already here, anon.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/VPR-76239-01.html

>I couldnt use my existing supply of mags right?
It would need a bullet guide and then you could.

>>29619717
Great if you can get it inspected if buying used or check it at the stop if buying new. Its your best bet for a new AK, but you have to do your homework and know what to look for.

>>29619725
>>29619707
What about the 5.45 VEPRs? I would imagine the higher quality longer barrel would benifit the 5.45 more for hunting than the 7.62 would.

>>29619729
>do your homework and know what to look for
New to AK's, what to look for exactly?

>>29619720
Hey, I don't care one way or the other. You do you baby. Some people take this Aleutian pottery shard website way too seriously.

>>29619725
oh shit $660? Thats just a little more than a new WASR from atlantic. Sign me the fuck up.

>>29619740
its very easy to fuck up building an AK, especially a cheap one. You need to look for canted (unalligned) sights, proper rivets, and overall straightness. Newer WASRs have had less problems but if its used, youre gonna have to inspect it thoroughly.

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>>29619743
Either way, it's going to be a fun rifle to shoot/test.

>>29619687
Faggot

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>>29619907
>Faggot
Come now, you gotta be more creative than that. Saying faggot alone gets old after a while.

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>>29619567
When you AK operator

>>29619707
is that a 7.62x39 vepr and an AR 180
if so fuck you
also tell me where you live so I can attempt to rob you or at least die at the end of an armalite like a true paddy

>>29619952
I wonder why one 7.62 mag

Also interesting and kind of strange to see the Magpul there

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Should I buy more mags (already have a little over two dozen) or finally get my hands on an AK 100 series bayonet (probably Bulgarian as they're cheaper)?

Also who /only black and plum mags/ here ??

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>>29620000
When are we going to put together a /k/ RPG?

>>29619765
10-4, thanks!

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>>29620000
Get more mags.
>Also who /only black and plum mags/ here ??
My nigga.

>>29620052
He got a 2 AK 762 and 545.

>>29620052
>dayzhighpopdowntownelektro.jpg

>>29619952
>>29620052
What's the story here?

>>29620099
Pop pop pop, watchin niggas drop

>>29620052
I love how unconcerned the soldier guy is.

>>29620028
Me and my forever DM have got a homebrew fairly /k/ setting we've been planning on running.

Basically it's East Germany (without really calling it East Germany) in the mid 60s and the players are cops/detectives/military officers all thrown under one organization (kinda KGBish without calling it the KGB) and are investigating a series of gruesome murders throughout the the dim and dreary not-East German city. Kind of a mix of Dark Heresy gameplay with almost a nWoD feel without it being supernatural, just dark and depressing (basically just like Eastern Europe under the USSR)

We plan on having be less shooty and actiony and more mystery, role playing-y and problem solving-y, but it'll have it's share of intense firefights.

>>29620103
>the simple version
Thanks, anon!

>>29620099
My English is poor.
Former police officer came to the police training ground and killed three policemen.And he was a separatist in the "Novorosia".

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>>29619952
>>29620140


based on the ammo there he had pretty grand plans that didnt work out.

>>29620140
Yeesh - what kind of high-score is "3"?

>>29620109
>soldier guy is.
This is police oficer.

>>29620177
Yes, you can tell by his policeman-like equipment he uses.

>>29620174
3:1
>>29620168
I even feel bad that only three frags.

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>>29620168
You and your glorious 5.56 Arsenal.

>>29619893
>mfw you never take it out because you're too poor for ammo and range fees

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>>29620222
>range fees
I only go to ranges if I want to punch paper semi productively of if there's a competition.

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New lacquer coated and sealed WPA, 7n6, and qtp2t 5.7

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>>29620391
The red sealer is actually more thorough on the WPA. The excess on the 7n6 probably fell off. In practice this probably simply means more red chips to clean out of the receivers of my 5.45 AKs. And I guess the primer is sealed from moisture maybe a little better in comparison.

Seems like quality stuff. Might do a biopsy of one of the bullets later to see what's going on in there.

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The 5.45 may be longer ranged and flatter shooting than the 7.62x39.

But if both are allowed to use hollow/soft point rounds, does the 7.62x39 become more devastating by sheer size?

>>29620445
>tfw i read that as "might do a boypussy of one of the bullets later "

>>29620479
Shit lol

It does kind of look like boipussy

>>29620479
This is what this place does to you.

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>>29620445
hmm, same headstamp as my bear ammo, it must be the same as the spam can I bought, minus actually coming in a spam can

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>>29620491
>>29620479

>>29620584
Guess that solves that mystery. You didn't have any problems with yours I'm guessing? I'll probably save all mine for nuggetfest

>>29620121
I want /tg/ to [spoiler]stay[/spoiler].

>>29620204
Sweet. Is that a pre-B CZ75, with the old 70s style "waffle" grips?

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>>29619567
Damn it feels good to be able to remove large amounts of material quickly.

The bench lathe could never compete with a 100 thou cut on a 7 HP motor with a 16" diameter capacity.

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>>29621097
14 RPM to 1,000 RPM

should be useful

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>>29621110
Only real concern is no metric threads.
Will have to use the bench lathe for that.

I am not sure the metric system was even invented when this lathe was made.

>>29620391
>>29620445
am I the only one who thinks lacquered slavshit ammo look sexy/evil?

something about that dark coating with red sealant looks baby killing assault'ish compared to dull polycoat or standard brass ammo

copper washed also gets honorable mention

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>>29621136
this should make you ameriboos hard

>>29621138
you might have autism friend

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>>29619739
Here's my 5.45. Like >>29619707 says, you need a bullet guide which is pretty easy to install. You will also need to grind down the mag catch a little bit if you want surplus mags to fit.

>>29621268
The appropriate way to fit a magazine is to modify the selector stop plate, not the mag catch.

>>29621207
:(

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>>29621097
>>29621110
>>29621136
>>29621197
What does this have to do with AKs?
I don't think this is the thread for that.

>>29621282
This is exactly the thread for machinery, because we use it to build AKs.

>>29621279
Wish I would have know this before. A few google searches I did before I did any grinding said to do the mag catch.

Do you know why you would do the selector stop plate?

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>>29621040
That it is.

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>>29621336
has to do with the angle the magazine catch engages the tab on the magazine, I believe.

I don't speak Russian but there might be something about it in here, I think it's a service manual. For ensuring parts are within spec on severely used or damaged rifles.

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>>29621445

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>>29621336
Also I do think I've heard Jim Fuller say the selector stop plate is what you modify, not the magazine catch.

Might have to watch a lot of his AK build videos on youtube to find it, though.

if you have some measuring equipment you might wish to make sure your magazines are within spec too?

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I wonder if Century has a copy of this manual?

>>29621501
Yeah I might be replacing my mag catch now. I do have a micrometer, but I would imagine the bulgy mags I have are likely in spec. I did buy some cheapo mags that don't fit as well, but the bulgys fit perfect.

Do you know if the mag catch should sit completely open, or should it catch on the angled bit of the mags?

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>>29621562
Find someone that can translate this book for us and maybe we'll know?

I wouldn't want to pay more than $25 for it.

Thoughts on JBI Armory? What kind of turn around time do they usually have? Any other good AK builders?

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>>29621138
The fuck? I mean I love how it looks, but what the hell is that all about

I also love that the cardboard boxes match the color scheme of the cartouches

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>>29621309
My bad then.
What kind of AKs?

>>29621138
I totally get it man.

>>29621097
>>29621110
>>29621136
>>29621197

You have a nice lathe, family.

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>>29621621
Ones properly built that won't fall apart within 2,000 rounds. Parts kit guns.

>>29621658
tyvm <3

>>29621600
I have a friend who went to the airforce academy who studied Russian, but I think he is busy overseas. I'm going through some Jim Fuller videos to see if he makes mention of it somewhere.

>>29621659
Kek. Fair enough.
Nice machinery anon.
>Now show an example of the AKs.

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>>29621719
If it makes you feel any better about it, I replaced my mag catch when I learned this.

Might need a mill or a set of needle files to make the selector stop plate groove deeper.

>>29621720

>>29621720
>>29621719
>>29621658
filedropper[]com/ak47-akmtechnicaldrawingsrussian

in case you want the file to have it translated, send a copy to Century Arms as well, they could surely use it.

>>29620455

The only advantage to 5.45 is it is slightly more accurate and flatter shooting past 400 meters.


7.62 is more powerful in every way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFkLAgGy6w&spfreload=10

>>29619707
>AR-180
Excellent taste

>>29621658
I also want to add that it weighs over 2 tons.
Moving that fucker was a real bitch.

>>29621732
I found the vid where he talks about it. Also gives an explaination why. Unfortunately no real verification of doing the selector stop place side, though it sounds right. Thankfully, my rifle still feeds reliably.


I do have a dremel which could work for filing the selector stop plate down if I take it slow. Thanks for the help.

Here's the vid
https://youtu.be/NamwREVeldU?t=4m5s

>>29621813
No problem /k/omrade.

>>29621601
Anyone?

>>29620121
So.... your playing as the stasi?

>>29622225
Sounds like it.

I occasionally visit /tg/, though not as often as I should, and am on some RPG mailing list.

What OP describes seems to be somewhere in tone between Night's Black Agents and Delta Green--street-level espionage roleplaying with roleplayed tradecraft, in a dark background of moody psychological horror, with an all-permeating sense of decay and despair.

I approve.

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>>29621791

My fucking organs hurt just watching this

>>29622281
Your organs fuck?

>>29621138
I feel you man. Sometimes I unload and reload my mags just to have an excuse to hold the rounds.

>>29622098
never heard of 'em, where are they located?

also try asking again a little later.

>>29622349
>2012+4
>not having a vault room full of loose ammunition and swimming in it like Scrooge McDuck

It's like you want to be a casual.

>>29621611
Is this shit or Golden Tiger better?

I've been looking into getting me some laquered/sealed ammo.

>>29622482
If I can go through all 750 rounds without a dud primer then it's at least as good as golden tiger.

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Threw some Russian plum handguards on my SLR. Only concern is that they're just a little bigger than the Arsenal handguards. That won't be an issue will it?

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/akg/'s thoughts on the DDI-12? iirc it takes Saiga 12 mags as well as m4 butt stocks

>>29622570
Is that pretty accurate of what to expect in terms of finish from Arsenals? That looks almost WASR tier

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>>29622570
Finished product. Thought it would look goofy with the black folding stock but the plum's so dark it's not that big of a contrast.

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>>29622588
Yup. It's just paint over park. You want a great finish? Atlantic's kit rifles are damn sexy.

>>29622606
I've been considering one of those, but DDI does KG gunkote on all of theirs and it looks pretty slick as well.. I'm more in the market for a 74 as my first AK as well

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Any good stock options out there for 2 tang receivers? I'd like to avoid chopping the bottom one off if possible.

>>29622588
>paint over park is almost the same as unpainted exposed parkerization
?????????

>>29622641
im talking in terms of end product aesthetic, it looks like dog shit

>>29621336
Because if you modify the mag catch eventually the magazine will sit too low and the bolt will end up sliding over the round in the top of the magazine and not chamber a round.

>>29622461
>dive into ammo
>plunge 7 feet under
>crushed to death by sheer weight
>blood for the blood god

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>>29620627
It shoots exactly like my silver bear did before it. Pretty decent.

>>29622751
You know those targets are for handguns right?

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Shieeeeeeet

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Is there any advantage to shiny AK bolt carrier vs black painted bolt carrier?

Or is it all looks?

>>29623036
disadvantage even, rusts easier.

>>29622591
mmk

Is your plum darker than mine?

This is a pic of it in the sun, toward the end of the day: >>29621732

>>29623036
I didn't think so but I noticed my AK with a nickel plated bcg doesn't have peening on the carrier tail while my AK with an unplated bcg has some mean peen. Both have around 800-1000 rounds down the pipe.

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>>29623071
Hard to tell from the angle, but mine is super dark. Unless you're looking at it in direct light it looks almost black.

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Well, new phone doesn't seem to take any better photos than the last one, which is disappointing.

>>29623113
that's how must plum is

>>29623171
I've seen some that were pretty light. Would those be US made?

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I want to turn a Maadi I just picked up into an AKM but I don't really have the cash for russian wood, I was looking at polish because there doesn't seem to be much of a difference and then I came across this. Does anyone have experience with these or any input?

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/wood-stock-set-detail.html?Itemid=0

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>>29623187
Probably.

>>29622571
Just buy a VEPR-12

>>29623202
What's wrong with the stock the Maadi came with?

>>29619952
>>29620099
DayZ Cosplay.

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>>29619952
gib PSM

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>>29623187
Yeah the light colored plum is US made generally. Russians weren't even going for a plum color originally.

>>29622571
Its got some cool features for sure. If the aftermark support catches on the gun should do well. If it were a 20 I would be much more interested but Im kinda over S12 style guns and ive got my fill of 12 gauges covered too.

>>29623230
ok, but why? isnt it much harder and more expensive to get parts/mags for the VEPR 12 over the Saiga 12?

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>>29623259

it's choate shit.

plus it's an RML so the original would have been a thumbhole stock, the handguard would have been fine, but he bought a whole choate set. Other than that it's in great shape, minus part of the finish chipping off on the moving parts.

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>>29623503
Ah that's a bummer. Maadis have some gorgeous laminate wood. Anyway, to your question I would probably hold out for some authentic surplus furniture. Polish is supposed to be pretty good.

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>>29623347
Hey Zasta, it fits with the SGM choke.

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>>29623578

>>29622225
Kind of, but again we aren't full on announcing that this takes place in East Germany. Kind of like Valkyria Chronicles takes place in not-Europe or Legend of the Five Rings takes place in not-Japan/not-Asia. East Germany will just be the inspiration and place we'll compare it to to get the mood out there.

East Germany was just a really depressing place and really captured the feel that we wanted the setting to have.

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This was my super fun M74 sporter, fun at least until it kaboom. I only got to put two and a half mags through it. Fuxking Century garbage.

>>29623607
Fuck. Any idea what caused it to blow?

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>>29623595
Thanks for the extra goodies too.
You didn't have to do that.

Thanks to the Russian anon who hooked us up, too.

>>29623599
Dude, that's super funny. My 5E game takes place in a fantasy version of Cold War Europe. My players are currently trying to find away across my version of the Berlin Wall.

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>>29619687
what was the point if you told everyone you trip?

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ol' girl dressed in plum.

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>>29623645
shhhhhhhh

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>>29623669

ol' girl in her sassy attire.

>>29623645
attention, like a faggot with a pink robe and a dick up his ass.

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>>29623578
Glad to hear it. please more pictures of that wood furniture, don't think I've seen you post it before.
>>29623623
What I wanted to give you is still somewhere in shipping haha.

>>29623669
>>29623855
everytime
>pic related

>>29623855
How you like that Zenit stock?

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Milled

>>29623621
Bad head spacing from what I gathered

http://my.mail.ru/mail/photoshooter/photo/10887/10907.html
Karden PT-3 stock

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>>29623983

i like it a lot. lots of adjustability and doesn't add too much weight. it actually helps balance the rifle out a bit.
very comfy cheek rest (which i've removed for experimentation).

>>29624194
Cool. Where'd you order it from? Looks like you can really only get them direct from Russia.

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>>29623982
>don't think I've seen you post it before
I haven't really posted it.
Mostly because I can't take good pics indoors with my phone, and I don't get a lot of free time in the day to take outdoor natural light pics.
Here's an ok one of the furniture.

>What I wanted to give you is still somewhere in shipping haha
Oh really?
>Feel free to send it.

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>>29624177
Wow... I really, really don't like that. I enjoy the PT-1 and PT-2, but I seriously dislike the way that looks.

>>29624275

got it from akstuff.com, more or less.
the guy who runs that site has a gunbroker page, that's where i bought it through.
ships out from somewhere in georgia (the state).

>>29624306
isn't PT-2 the PKM stock?

I want to get an ak, and I have a $1k budget. The catch? I want one with wood furniture. What's my best bet?

>>29624693
Kit rifle. DDI or Atlantic would probably be your best bet. Should run you around $800-900.

>>29624702
I've never built a rifle before, but I'm open to it. Spoon feed me on how to start?

>>29624707
You're not building it. It's a complete rifle build by an American company using US and original military surplus parts.

TULAMMO YES/NO?!

>>29624773
for an ak? fine.

>>29624773
I say no. Lots of people have never had an issue, but literally every ammo related problem I've ever had has been with Tulammo. Spent a few dents more per round just for the piece of mind.

>>29623855
ID on the pistol grip?

>>29624773
>>29624821
So wolf and a lot of times even golden tiger are all the same price. At least, ive seen golden tiger for $5 more per 500 than wolf/tula

>>29624865
Golden Tiger is where it's at, but Wolf and Bear will do. Yugo M67 is fantastic too, but it is corrosive so you'll have to be a little more dilligent on cleaning.

>>29624773
No. Tula is underpowered, inconsistent, and dirty. Shit's garbage.

>>29624865
>>29624914
Wolf and Bear are importers, not manufacturers.

Bear ammo is all Barnaul afaik.

Wolf is a mix of Tula, Barnaul, and Lugansk in Ukraine, so watch what you get there too. They're all packages differently and most places will tell you what factory it came from.

The last little while on /akg/ there have been grumblings about issues with Golden Tiger but it's always been excellent for me.

Yugo M67 is based but corrosive and overpriced these days.

>>29624914
>>29625094
>that feel when have 1k of golden tiger and an unopened crate of M67

probably will never shoo the m67 and flip it in a couple years

>>29624857
Not him, but it's a ZenitCo RK-3 (PK-3).

>>29619567
So I got about $400 to blow on accessories, what should I get?

>>29625991
What rifle do you have?
And what are you trying to achieve with said accessories?

As a blanket response, mags and ammo.

>>29622831
they can be for whatever they want, a lot of it does seem to translate over

>>29626023
I have.....an AKM. we'll just leave at that.

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>>29621138

Looks good m8

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Just like in my vidyer!!!!!!

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Time to operate

>>29626107
Why so secretive?

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>>29626909
>>29626918
Got to give it to Sposn/SSO, those guys know how to make backpacks. Feels refreshing to have something that isn't Multicum covered in 70 miles of MOLLE.

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>>29626909
>>29626918
>>29626950
Wow, that looks great. I just ordered an Attack 2 pack by SSO/Sposn.

Any good AK builders that don't have a 6+ month back up?

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>ordered a parts kit
>want to clean off the cosmoline
>boil the parts
>thisfucksthepaint.pneg
>panic
>still oily as fuck
>get some degreaser
>kothepaint
>lolfugg
Welp time to rent an air compressor and media blaster

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>>29627432
I really should have tested it on something like the grip nut or whatever before I started.
>itaintmestartsplaying

>>29627432
Don't panic. The finish may not be as damaged as it looks.

When you use boiling water and solvents to strip off every trace of cosmo or oil, the metal underneath can look a bit weird--pale and dull and spotty like the pictures show. Rub some light oil in with a soft cloth, see if those parts don't suddenly look "normal" again. Betcha that'll fix 'em right up.

>>29627385
I think it was the previous ak general thread, someone found a local builder that sounded legit, $250 in Idaho

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>>29627448

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>>29627455
Nah m8, it's pretty fucked, a lot of it was peeling off and stuff
>>29627460

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>>29627486
>that peeling paint
Fugg.

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>>29627515

>>29627527
That was the last one. Anyway. Wut do? I tried oil and it didn't do much but make it oily. The paint is fucked, I think the park under it is still fine though.

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>>29626909
That pack have a frame and what kind?

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>just got a 2000 dollar tax refund
>already have an SLR-107fr I got a few weeks back

What optics should I get?

>>29628255
I'd get another rifle and primary arms 4X scope

>>29628255
More ammunition, magazines, and spare bits like firing pints, extractors, springs, etc.

>>29628278
This. Buy like 5 cases of m67 and sit on it for a while 1 case of commercial for shooting

>>29628295

I know everyone loves the M67 ammo, but isn't there a better military-grade alternative than corrosive Yugoslavian made ammo cranked out in the 1970s?

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>>29628323
Meh corrosive is only a problem if you never properly clean your gun
>my Innawoods setup

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>>29619956
It's a Galil and an AR180B
>>29621795
Was sold recently for $750

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>>29628255
Obzor.

>>29628516
Looking for an optic. Aimpoint pro, pk-01vs etc. Any thoughts?

I kind of like the pk-01 vs except the 20mm lense

>>29628547
Don't have any firsthand experience with those. Both seem pretty popular around these parts.

Can someone post the a/k/ buyer's guide? The shitty 5 second ms paint one with 3 options that's still better then any other guide ever made.

>>29628516
i have used a Obzor on my friends ak-74. such a nice optic. i would definitely recommend.

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New bitch
>inb4 that grip tho
Grip is comical, some tapco pos I've never seen in person. The quality is so poor I'm surprised they would intentionally sell these for a rifle.

>>29629289
Also paint on these stamped arsenals is pretty bad. The milled arsenal I had was pretty good and didn't understand the complaints. It's bad enough I may repaint it.

>>29629289
Where did you get a cr ?

>>29629349
Finagled a deal through subguns. I actually saw one go for a bit less than I paid but whatever. I always run out of patience.

>>29628977
>$500-600: WASR
>$700-800: DDI
>$1000+: Arsenal 107fr

How do people have trouble remembering this?

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>>29629380
How much all together ?
Fuck that finish is bad my slr 104 it's really nice

>>29629403
Thanks man. And I always forget because I'm clearly retarded, which should be apparent.

>>29629425
Pushing $1300 all said and done. Fuck it I wanted one.

I'm convinced the finishes on these guns differ from period to period. My SAM7 was as good as I'd really want. This gun is horrible. Handguard retainer can scratch it off with my fingernail. Safety has a knick in it and can fairly easily flake off. Guess I'll just use it and see if the receiver starts flaking. Whatever I'll have so much into it once I get it SBRd and whatnot I'll prob just refinish it.

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>>29619567
Remember the /k/ of four or five years ago? When it was like 90% WASRs and a couple of Richie Riches with Arsenals?

Look how far we've come baby.

>>29626909
what backpack is this? I was going to buy an expensive ass mystery ranch, but i like this one

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does anyone know what sling this could be? I bought a sposn sling, but i cant fold my stock with it on and its annoying

Someones got an L1A1 locally and they are interested in my SAR 3. Should I do it?

>>29629684
Who made the L1A1? If it's one of those old Century models you should keep your AK.

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>>29629828
It's a century, here's a pic of it

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>>29629660

I dont understand how the sling would interfere with the stock folding.

Nice choice of weapons there famalam

>>29629876
Yeah, I'd pass. If you're especially hard up for an FAL I've heard those DSA Voyagers are GTG.

>>29624297
Wood on vepr 12s looks good.

Will do bro


>>29629660
Looks like one of the Blue Force Gear slings

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>>29630262

Hey /akg/, I want to improve the trigger on a Saiga sporter but live in a ban state (Califag), so I'd rather not do a full conversion and have to put up with a bullet button. What can I do to remedy this problem?

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>>29630351

ALG AKT

>>29630351
Do a full conversion and just get a bullet button thingy you faggot

>>29630351
Move, faggot

>>29629289
I actually like the way that grip looks on that particular rifle. Too bad Tapco a shit

>>29630409
That's not going to work in a nonconverted saiga.

>>29631120
I mean, he always could just:

1: Bite the bullet and do a full conversion with button

2: Move to a more free state

What's not to understand? The stock Saiga triggers are garbage because of the mechanism needed to utilize that ridiculous stock.

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Well guys i fucked up. How does one fix this? I tried beating out with my brass cleaning rod and then I snapped the fucker right at the muzzle. And now I've working at with a punch but I'm about to say fuck it and take it to a gunsmith.
Btw is this what out of battery looks like on an AK?

>>29631445
I shit you not, put it in the freezer until it's nearly frozen, then get your AK cleaning rod and smack it out.

>>29631445
No idea. maybe try a flat screw driver on the lip of the round and hammer it out.

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Hello friends!

>>29619567
Anyone ordered any of those $10 Polish mags off Aim Surplus? Any good?

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>>29631445
That looks familiar. I got mine out with a brass cleaning rod and a hammer.

>>29631621
Nice. That model is probably the last AK I'll purchase. 5.45 triangle folder with some laminate handguards.

>>29631445
What kind of AK out of curiosity?

>>29631621

Is that a bulgarian sling?

Anyone with a .308/7.62 VEPR ever used the 25 round mags? How do they compare to stock mags?

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So I recently came into possession of this three-point sling. It is sold by Rothco (the cheap BDU cammies knockoff people) and came in a plastic baggie with no instructions.

Does anyone know how to install it on an AK? Mine's a more or less standard WASR, with the regular sling attachment loop on the bottom of the buttstock just in front of the buttplate and the little steel ring on the left side of the handguard retainer.

Thanks.

Are there any decent prices on Hungarian 20 round mags out there right now?

>>29631445
>>29631572 is probably a good idea to try, that can work wonders.
But that's not out of battery. That's pretty much just where the bolt puts the round. It doesn't enter the chamber 100% or there wouldn't be any way for the bolt to pull on the rim and extract it.

>>29632010
Not that I've seen lately. There are similar looking Korean 20 rounders out there, but they have problems. Among other things the magazine follower doesn't rise as far as in "real" AK mags, causing feeding problems for the last 2 or so shoots. I've heard these are fixable by careful filing on the sides of the mag follower to make it rise further, but that risks a follower that gets to the topmost position and jams there.

>>29632089
The rifle's chamber has a notch milled in it for the extractor.

>>29631780
It is the same sling that came with the rifle

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>>29631445
>>29632117
>The rifle's chamber has a notch milled in it for the extractor.
maybe on an ak shotgun

>>29631120

hmm, I did not know that. I'm unfamiliar with the sporters and commie state guns.

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>>29632370

>>29632383
You're clearly just a new fag that doesn't know what he's talking about you faggot.

>>29619607
how do you like the Zhukov?
just bought the npap version yesterday

>>29632607
HAHAHAHAAHHA

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>>29632607
I like mine, I have to modify my cheek weld a little bit otherwise I'd get bruised.

>>29619567
What's the best thing to use to clean a SLR 104. I've been told that Hoppes Erin's the finish. Any recommendations?

>>29631798
Just stick with Csspecs for any aftermarket .308 VEPR mags. Doesn't matter which size as they're all great. They're very solid and built like tanks, plus Csspecs is good people.

Fuuu they cancelled the 2-gun shoot because of rain....just watch I'll be working when they reschedule

Any of you know of AK builders in Ohio, or am I better off sending my kit to Spivey?

>>29632913
Outers Bore Foam. Just inside the barrel and gas cylinder and on the end of the piston--let it stand, rinse with hot water, use a bore snek and an old toothbrush on other parts, and it's done. Use a bit of brake cleaner to clean the other areas but be sparing. Re-lube with your lube of choice.

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My saiga and jew sight. Pretty heavy but fun

>>29633238
How do you like the sight? I am impressed by the ruggedness but I think the central dot is too big in most of the reticles. I think a 2 MOA dot would be about right, maybe with a ring around it to lead the eye to it and make it a bit faster.

>>29633311

I have X reticle one because I was the same way and thought the central dot or triangle was too big. Its a solid sight tho and easy to sight in, has a blue tint, orange reticle, came with the killflash but suffers from washout while inside and aiming outside like all the self powered red dots. Id buy it again.

>>29633311

Oh and comes standard with a quick detach base. I like that

>>29633311
>>29633366
>>29633377
Sweet Jesus faggots, look at them trip dubs

>>29633393

Check em

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>>29633377
>>29633366
>>29633311
Ice cube? Is that you?

>>29633238
How's the cheek weld on that Arsenal mount ?
How do you like that mount ?

>>29633091
The leddit gunsmith? I've heard great things about him, desu. He's not a massive jew

>>29633428

Sits a little high. But I can deal with it. The mount itself is top notch.

>>29633429

I was emailing him about it. I have a Bulgarian kit and an Arsenal CHF barrel, it would be $615 for the build, plus another $35 for the side rail to be thrown in.

At the end of all this, I could have just got an Arsenal for the same money, but I think I made a better choice.

>>29633454
Well, if a folding stock is necessary, then go Arsenal but you've already got the kit and wouldn't have the coin (necessarily) for an Arsenal at which point, just stick to it and send your kit that you already own off to a builder.

How do you go about cerakoting an SLR-107? Would you have to disassemble the entire rifle down to each individual piece?

>>29633475

I'll probably want something with a triangle folder somewhere down the road, but I decided I wanted a nice wood AK74 first.

>>29633483
Then I'd say stick to your original plan. But that's one faggot's 2 cents.

>WASR
>NPAP
>OPAP
Which one is best?

>>29633550

Ultimately I am committed to having this rifle built and I'm going to love it one way or another. Would it be cool to have 6 different AKs set up in all kinds of configurations? Yeah probably. But at the point that I have an AR, and an AK74, and I want an AKM, and an X95 down the road, how many fucking rifles do I need? I mean honestly.

>>29633558
WASR > OPAP > NPAP

>>29633595
All of them. That's the answer.

>>29633453
Good to hear I'm trying to decide between that and a rs mount.
You can still use irons right ?

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>>29633653

If I put a AK74 style muzzle break on an AK47 does it work just as well as it does on the AK74? Been thinking of getting an AK but dont know which yet

>>29632913
>Your rifle has been effectively tested with a Mil Specification product Break-Free® CLP (Clean, Lubricate, Protect).
Might just be shilling, but it works well enough

http://www.arsenalinc.com/usa/Warranty_and_Service_Policy.html

>>29633669

Negative. No irons while that thing is on.

Can you get a 1/3 cowitness with a trijicon MRO on an Ultimak forward gas block rail?

>>29633716
It will work the same recoil reduction wise. Although it will still have higher recoil simply because it's a 7.62. Make sure you get one actually made for 7.62 or bad things will happen

>>29632913
>>29633723
Never had a problem using CLP on my arsenals. All I use

>>29633716

It only works well if you don't use that cheap ass tapco one that you're already thinking about. Get a thread adapter and get an authentic Bulgarian or Arsenal 74 brake

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>just ordered a 1000 round case of FMJ Golden Tiger for a grand total of 258ish bucks
>faggots at the local gun store were trying to sell off 1000 round shitty Tulammo for 310 bucks before taxes

Why do they try to get away with this shit?

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>>29633806
>>29633723

I use Breakfree. That shit is nectar of the gods, feels like someone dipped every part of my gun in a vat of teflon.

Pisses off my older brother to no end, since he's an AR-15 guy, and swears by Hoppes products.

>>29633945
>Why do they try to get away with this shit?
Because people will pay for it, desu.

>>29632913
As other people have said, use the recommended break free clp. Do not accidentally purchase and use break free powder blast on your SLR. It is not the same thing as the clp and It will dissolve the finish. Thought I'd warn you just in case.

>>29633776
Dam I thought the sm-13 mount could

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>>29632418

sorry i dont know about your precious cuck rifles

>>29634219
>cuck rifles
I'm not even that guy but they were just under $300 a piece in sporting configuration when they were first coming into the country. Your newfag is showing big time.

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>>29634277

I'm familiar with how cheap they were, I'm also familiar with the fact that they came in a not so standard AK config, including internals, but I didn't know they wouldn't accept a drop in trigger job. I also don't take the opinions of autistic shitposters on an outdated shoshone turquoise bead polishing forum to heart.

Is there any negative to putting a buffer tube stock adapter on my WASR? I feel like I really could use longer LOP

What's the availability of 5.45x39 these days? If I bought a 74 would I hate myself because lolnoammo?

>>29634394
The whole "5.45x39 is unobtainium due to it being BANNED" is a meme

5.45 is readily available online in commercial steel case for the same price as 7.62x39 and is still cheaper than 5.56

Sure, it's no longer surplus 7n6 $0.15 a round cheap, but it's easily available for non corrosive perfectly fine ammo at around $0.21-$0.25 a round.

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>>29634379

doesn't really look that good IMO but otherwise no.

You could get a NATO length polymer stock but they aren't really that much longer, pic related.

You could also get a custom wood stock thats longer.

>>29634379
The fact that the receiver is tapered and the tube isn't will make your gun look funny, and you'll constantly wonder if it's loose or bent.
But nothing functionally wrong.
>>29634394
Some stores carry it (dedicated gun/hunt&fish stores), most of it is online. Not bad pricing.

>>29634325
>I'm also familiar with the fact that they came in a not so standard AK config, including internals, but I didn't know they wouldn't accept a drop in trigger job.

Well apparently you weren't very familiar with their internals. Maybe you should lurk some more before giving out bad recommendations to others. In fact even arsenal SGL's, for instance, will not be able to have an ALG trigger as a drop in replacement.

Your comment about cuck rifles was clearly indicative of your thoughts about those rifles being only worthwhile in gun unfriendly states. You should slow your meme'ing down -you might end up getting hurt if you can't handle the speed.

>>29634436
>The fact that the receiver is tapered and the tube isn't will make your gun look funny, and you'll constantly wonder if it's loose or bent.

I don't think I'll have that issue with this one.

http://rifledynamics.com/collections/ak-accessories/products/ak-to-m-4-stock-adapter-by-rifle-dynamics

>>29634433
I should have said that I don't think my case would put up with that. The rifle just barely fits in there as it is.
>Just get a new one
Trust me, I would love a reason to get a fancier, tactical case, but not until the current one is beat to piss.

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>>29634465

>being this assblasted

maintain your autism son.

>cant put an AKT in a SGL

except thats wrong faggot

>>29634494

seems like that would be your best bet if your set on keeping your case.

Can anyone tell me if there is a bit of difference between a russian/polish akm stock and a romanian akm stock?

>>29634715
woods used in the laminate.

>>29634465
my arsenal sgl has a alg trigger that i dropped in. why wouldnt it be able to take a drop in trigger?

>>29634738

would this be noticeable if the sets were both refinished?

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African poachers still working AK. This beast of the bolsheviks is my weapon of choice. I love the AK. It is heavier than the AR and the ammo is heavier, but 7.62 punches through car doors and brick fucking walls in ways that .22 errr .223 could never penetrate.

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It's ugly, but it still slaughters elephants and rhinos to sell horns to gooks to get their little wing wangs rock hard.

>>29634745
Show me a picture of your trigger guard rivet. Some of them are too tall for the trigger.

>>29634764
The coloration will still be different, And I think the thickness of the layers. Will it be used with Russian/polish handguards? If so, It'll be fine. It won't look super matching, but then again not all pieces from a country match. It'll look like a re-arsenal if it doesn't match.

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>>29620052

Leave my corpse to rot for the buzzards if I die with that many nades unused and I have the element of surprise.

>>29634694
>SGL
>pistol grip reinforcement plate
>4.5mm AKS-74 stock

Looks like an SLR to me.

>>29634764
>>29634827
Romainian
http://s1122.photobucket.com/user/silveradosierra/media/AK1.jpg.html
Russian
http://zenphotos.net/file/Online/SVD/SGL31/SGL31_Laminate_002.JPG
Note the difference in the layers, and the different "pattern" of the wood. disregard the fact the Russian is finished and the Romanian isn't.

>>29634961
>>29634827

Thank you komrades, this is discouraging. I've found new old stock handguards and grips on apex but no stocks. And I hate to have to pay a premium for a complete russian set on legion's website.

>>29635027
Just adjust whatever your stain is, if they don't match. Don't expect to pass the set off as Romanian or Russian, And It'll be fine. Or call it a Bulgarian rendition (Bulgarian stuff pretty much never close to matching- Orange, brown, yellow, black, all on the same gun)
and don't let the cut of the stocks I showed you fool you, they will be the same. The differences will be in color (russian wood is generally a bit lighter), and russian wood generally only has 2 main, distinct colors, while other countries are *generally* 3-4, less distinct colors. Also Russian stocks can have a slightly different "flow" to the cut, like a slightly different contour. Haven't noticed an actual difference in shape, though.
Just be sure to refinish the non russian first, and then adjust the finish on the russian to match, since its no great challenge to make wood slightly darker. Other way can be a bit of a trick.

>>29635027
Go look at the AKFiles marketplace.
There's always some Russian furniture for sale.
Hell, just shoot dopeman25 an email, I'm sure he can get you what you need.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239822

New thread

>>29635440

>>29635440

>>29635440