/akg/ AK General

>>29468981

It's a young Niko Bellic!

Sincd the AK bolt doesn't hold back after going through a mag, how do you know when it's empty?

>>29469051
>*click*
or count?

>>29469051
when the gun goes click instead of bang when you pull the trigger

>>29469025
sorry, those are some ugly mods

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>>29469071
I never personally like how any sort of rail has looked on an AK unless it's a 105 clone with an ultimak or the AK-9 handguard.

>>29469071

How come no one seems to like those? They're expensive as fuck, sure, but appearance-wise they look fine to me.

Anyone try ordering from these germans? I know they have this eurozone shit but I'm wondering if they will ship to Americans like rusmilitary.

http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/61431412.mobile/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61431412/Products/120005&ViewAction=ViewProduct

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>>29469142

That isn't an AK, dipshit.

>>29469141
No shipping to the states.
I asked them, they said it's too much red tape to export.

>>29469176
care to share with the rest of the class smart guy?

>>29469051
Because of the construction of the ak mag, it makes a clicking noise when you're approaching the last 5 rounds as you shoot.

It gets louder and louder as you approach the last bullet, go shoot one and you'll know what I'm talking about

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>>29469176
Who cares? It's an evolution of the AK just as the RK-series are, and those are practically worshiped here. Vz.58's are baller and in my opinion, better than AKM's in just about every way.

>>29469203
>It's an evolution of the AK
>mechanically different
>can't even use the same mags

just fuck off noguns. You're not impressing anyone

>>29469183

Faggots. Even the bongs at rusmilitary just send the mags in parts. Fucking asshole germans.

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>>29469217
I've been posting pictures of my AK in these generals for over a year, friendo.

And yes, it is as relevant as any AK derivative posted here. You're not fooling anybody. Nobody else in these threads owns a PO3.5x21P.

>>29469127
Anyone have that high-speed camera slow-motion webm of the AK firing with a dogleg rail where it shows how much even the hinged ones flop around with every shot?

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>>29469239
>I've been posting pictures of my AK in these generals for over a year, friendo.

Impressive...you're a grizzled veteran around these parts of town. Wow...a year.

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>>29469427
Whatever boats your float, the burden of proof is not on me.

>>29469427

Can you do us all a favor and please leave?

Take your VZ hate to the AR thread.

>>29469239
What's the front lower handguard you have there?

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>>29469487
regular AK-74 black polymer handguard with a hole drilled into it and image related installed.

>>29469473
This

>>29469203
No it isn't.

>>29469652
>take idea
>make it different

even in a very distant way, it's still an evolution as it came after and improved certain features, and was heavily influenced.

>>29469508

Watch out for 922r compliance, kiddos. Replacing a US Made handguard with one of these is dangerous territory. Having family members who have given their lives to uphold the rule of law, felonies are not something to hold lightly.

Enforcing 922r will be some president EO directive, mark my words kid ;)

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>>29469704
I lost my dog in an unfortunate boating accident, sorry.

>>29469734

That won't work when someone like me is holding you for the police at the range ;)

>>29469761
how much BATF dick would you say you suck in a week?

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>>29469704
>Thinking 922r matters, or moreso is even enforceable

LMAOing at your life, kid.

>ATF has advised via an ATF Letter dtd Apr 29, 2009, that 18 USC 922(r) applies to "the act of assembly, per se, not mere possession of the assembled firearm". Intent is really to restrict import of all those "bad" assault rifles or prevent the conversion of sporterized firearms to the evil "assault" version that was so hyped about.

There has been 1 case of 922r prosecution that I can find, and he was a Commiefornian trying to sell SKSes that he put bayos back on during the Clinton AWB.

Enjoy the (You)s, faggot.

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>>29468981

in with 5.56

>>29469101

I dont at all like tacticool AK's, myself.

>>29469847

kek.

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>>29469704

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Bullpup AK, Armenian K3.
I WANT IT!

Are there any dimensional differences between the AK74 and AKM stock?

>>29468531
I've got a regular ass mag

>>29469197
I'm going to listen for this next time I go shooting

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Thanks for the well wishes for my new baby from a few threads ago, guys.

>>29470419
Is it a boy or a slut?

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>>29470610
It's a boy

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>>29468981

>>29470202
K3? Moar liek <3, amirite guise?

srsly, it gives me a woody and it doesn't even have wood.

>>29470202
Looks like russian version of the L86.

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>>29469239

Where can I get those rust colored bakelite mags in 7.62x39?

Are they more expensive than regular steel?

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>>29470202
>>29471061

>>29471357
rust colored?

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>>29469025
>>29469059
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>>29469203
>>29469239
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>>29470736
>all this painfully obvious airshit

jesus christ /k/, I thought you were better than this

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>>29471391

You know what I mean. These mags.

I hesitate to call them bakelite because they technically aren't bakelite.

>>29471416
and technically 922r matters...
i'd say those are around 40$(?) or about 30€?

>>29471416
Why aren't they technically Bakelite?

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>>29471411
Have a (you), AK included

>>29471357
It's lighting.

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>>29471676
>M44's not much longer than AK74

Fuck I wish I could find an M44 for non-irrational prices.

One day I would like an SKS too.

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>>29471411
You need to be 18+ to post kiddo.

>>29471574
Not him, but they're AG-S4.

>These rust-colored magazines weigh .24 kg (0.53 lb) empty and are often mistakenly identified as being made of Bakelite (a phenolic resin), but were actually fabricated from two-parts of AG-S4 molding compound (a glass-reinforced phenol-formaldehyde binder impregnated composite), assembled using an epoxy resin adhesive

But they look like bakelite, and that's what they've been known colloquially as since they first showed up.

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>>29471737
>USP
>9mm

>>29471818
And it's 100% amazing when I can hit a man sized target at 100 yards with it

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>>29471411

0/10 apply yourself.

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painfully obvious airshit here.

>looking for babbies first AK
>no real affordable options worth a damn anymore
>figure I'll just get a 74 then
Anyone sell one with a triangle side folder and a wood grip and handguard?

>>29472202
How are you liking that single point sling?

>>29472246

http://www.k-var.com/shop/SLR104-34.html

then buy wood furniture

>>29472305
>http://www.k-var.com/shop/SLR104-34.html
Is Arsenal the only company that sells 5.45 AK's worth a damn?

Not that I'm exactly complaining about $1100 for a quality rifle since my AR cost around that much. Just curious.

>>29472384

Could go Saiga or DDI but it's hard to go wrong with arsenal.

>>29472384

If you dont want to spend a lot just get a WASR. Not 5.45 but you cant beat the quality:price.

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>>29472384
>Is Arsenal the only company that sells 5.45 AK's worth a damn?

(refer to chart)

But generally, yes.

>>29472384
Arsenal is the best 5.45 AK you can buy off the rack in the US. Yes it's pricey, but when you compare features and price to the competiton the price is actually what would be expected. The folding stock trunnion is an uncommon and sought after feature in the AK world, plus you get a Bulgarian made receiver and cold hammer forged barrel. Yes you could get a DDI but you won't get any of those three things I mentioned. You could get a Saiga, and keep the high quality receiver and barrel, but lose the folding stock (but maybe folding stocks aren't your thing). But the Saiga will come with its own fair share of probably not function impeding, but grimace inducing quirks that aren't desirable. And we haven't been able to get sub-$300 Saiga rifles in a long time anyways.

>>29472570
Arsenal should really bring back the SLR-105 as a lower priced alternative to the 104's and to cut into the market of people who want a wooden fixed stock. The most common reason I see people hesitate with the 104 over is wanting to go full wood and not being able to with the folding trunnion. That and canted sight memes. If Arsenal reintroduced the 105 for like $900 they would just shit all over the competition. I might would even buy one.

>>29472608
Are the 105 as good as the 104s? I see them come up for sale every once and a while

>>29472802
I really couldn't say, but if I had to guess I'd guess they're on par with the 104's. Not sure why they're not offered anymore.

>>29472960
Interesting they always seem to be a couple hundred less than the used 104s I might have to look into getting one for a nice wood 74

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>>29472608
This. When I was looking at buying my first AK-74 I was looking for a fixed stock option since I wanted to dress it up in original Russian or Bulgarian plum furniture. I had considered getting an SGL31 but they were like $500 more than the SLR-104FR, I ended up settling with the SLR-104FR since later on I could put a triangle folder on it and put a plum handguard and grip on the thing. Then I realized I'd rather just stick with the polymer side folder. Still though, if available I would have gotten the SLR-105. Hell even if they transitioned to the 5.5 mm folding trunnions that'd be nice.

>>29472384
Arsenal is the only company left that is worth a damn when it comes to AK's.

Honestly, get a SAM7SF, it actually warrants its extenuous pricetag. 5.45 is no longer 10-15cpr anymore.

>>29472996
>Honestly, get a SAM7SF, it actually warrants its extenuous pricetag. 5.45 is no longer 10-15cpr anymore.
Kill yourself. The stocks on those things are hideous. Also fuck you, 5.45x39 is the superior round. It's fucks like you that
>hurr durr it's no longer cheap as shit so you shouldn't buy it
That are going to drive the costs up by destroying the demand for it thus none will be imported and the prices will go up. 5.45x39 is JUST as expensive as 7.62x39 and superior in literally every way.

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>>29473044
5.45 is best

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>>29472247

i haven't had much opportunity to utilize it.

i can say it isn't as comfy as the sposn rt-3, as it has no padding, but i like how it hangs on me.

>>29473044
>7n6 is the superior round
FIFY, and seeing how 7n6 is banned from import, it is now next to useless.

The stock on the SAM7SF is a derivative of the Galil stock. It is sturdy, and it is more comfortable than a non-rolled triangle folder.

>5.45x39 is JUST as expensive as 7.62x39 and superior in literally every way.
7n6 was superior, or on par, according to who you ask. 5.45 lead core is crap, seeing as the russians cant or wont push it beyond 2900fps. 7.62 lead core, on the other hand, is effective as fuck, besides flying like a lead brick past 300m. 7n6 could pierce through 10" diameter tree trunks, however any bullet that is more than 57grains in 5.45 is fucking useless as it doesnt travel fast enough and none of them have the air pocket that makes them tumble early on: what 5.45 was designed to do in the first place.

meanwhile, 7.62x39 wasnt designed around speed, and some ammo manuf have put the airpocket in there (cough cough GT anyone?) so it is still effective in its "heavy but dumb" role. It will pierce through cinder blocks with 3 shots and the 3rd has sufficient energy to kill whatever is on the other side. Wood and wallpaper doesnt stop it, and regular housing brick turns to dust when it hits it.

maybe youre new here, maybe your russian (bc you sound like it Mr. "It's fucks like you that"), or maybe youre just retard. either way, get edjumacated fgt

>>29473248
Every 5.45 currently offered is just 7n6 without the bit of steel.

>>29473278
prove it faggot. Ill wait while you attempt to make shit up.

Does anybody have an AK-74 with a folding stock and wood foregrip?


I always see pictures of that style on the AKM, but never an AK-74

>>29473248
>le lead 7.62x39 has good penetration meme
You must be new or retarded.

>>29473248
>besides flying like a lead brick past 300m.
Which is exactly why 5.45x39 is superior. An extra 150m of effective range, along with a lighter round for humping around, etc... Makes it clearly a far superior round.

>>29473332
why dont you just fuck off back to lleddit where you can be self-validated with likeminded retards such as yourself. Go watch the Declassified USMC training video about foreign weapons and Cover vs concealment.

>>29473366
>muh one video
And I can show you other videos where 5.45x39, even lead core, penetrates better. Yeah it doesn't destroy cover but it DOES penetrate better.

>>29473366
this guy knows whats up 7.62x39 is an intermediate cartridge with bad range but makes up for it with penetration and stopping power also can make 500+yd ranges with irons if skilled enough

>>29473351
>on a rifle that has less optic choices than your mom had abortion clinics
yea, you really gonna reach out and touch someone with that 63gr .214cal round. Have you even made a shot on a silhouette at 300m?

Ill let you in on a secret, at 300m, the width of a human torso is less than half the width of your front sight post. How big you think its gonna be at 450m?
also,
>effective range out to 450m
The M16 has an effective range out to 600-800m, yet it still dont make a difference unless you get a direct skull shot on an un-helmeted enemy.

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damn this thread got salty.

>>29473404
>on a rifle that has less optic choices than your mom had abortion clinics
"No"

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>>29473412

yes.

>>29473404

Objectively wrong. Depending on what rifle you are using the front site is about the same size as a torso at 300.

>>29473389
>where 5.45x39, even lead core, penetrates better.
If I waited around here for those videos, I'd turn to dust. But by all means, try to dig something up within the next 10mins.

>>29473395
what is it with all the retards flooding this place lately? I just dont get it, someone such as I tries to edjumacate them, and all they say is "nuh-uh!" and cover their eyes

>>29473412
>oh jeebus, another newtrip
just like muh balls after a romp on ya mum, ye fookin cunt.

>>29473366
Fuck off.
https://youtu.be/547BKysByqM

>>29473433
>muh CrapCo tiny 'pointy ball' plastic sight or custommade lathed brass point
fuck outta heahhhhhh with your stupidity. Show some pics, post some links, or get the fuck back to lleddit.

>>29473434
Please refer to: >>29473439

>>29473434

>new

lurk more.

>>29473439
>where 5.45x39, even lead core, penetrates better.
>shows a video of MAC, who had 7n6 in his rifle
way to kills two birds with one stone.
>prove 7n6 is superior 5.45 round, and that I was right
>prove your mental capacity, and that you were talking out your ass.
10/10 GJ you did it!

>>29473448

I shoot on Army qual ranges. The 300m torso is about the width of the front post on an M4/M16.

Based on what I have seen, an AK is about the same. So I'm not too worried about it being "half the width".

Have you ever even shot at a torso sized target at 300m?

>>29473248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBMdeN9dyg&feature=youtu.be

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If you are a noguns that is here just to shitpost, consider this your (you) and go back to /arg/ or wherever you're coming from.

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How many 30 round mags is considered sufficient to pair with an AK?

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>>29473480

four to six seems to be the general consensus.

>>29473480
As many as you can fit in your chest rig or plate carrier.

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>>29473461
>shows a video of MAC, who had 7n6 in his rifle
Why lie? You know you can just admit you're wrong...

>>29473462
>I shoot on Army qual ranges.
oh really, and just where are they located? Fantasyland?

>>29473463
>hey look, I can do that too!
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-84781.html
still waiting on proof that 5.45 lead core is better than 7.62 lead core.
Funny, that video just came out yesterday, and he has a shoutout to Alex @TFB, aka Squid manchild. Fuck off squid, your bitchass belongs in your containment thread /arg/ and /tfa/

>>29473461
>who had 7n6 in his rifle
Golden Tiger is 7n6 now? Neat

>>29473480

>>29473480

6-8 is a plenty, but AK mags are getting more and more expensive so as many as possible IMO

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>>29473480

All of them

>>29473502

Or...you know...to qualify.

I'm going to go ahead and stop replying to you, because obviously you want to live a life of screaming in rage because you're not smart enough to talk to us

>>29473502
>still waiting on proof that 5.45 lead core is better than 7.62 lead core.
Good job ignoring evidence that proves you wrong.

>>29473480
4+1 is minimum. usually add in increments of 4 after that.

>>29473504
>Golden Tiger is 7n6 now? Neat
find me some GT 5.45. It is literally on the same level of 7n6 pertaining to availability. Fuckin newfags around heahhhh......

>>29473530
>moving the goal posts this hard

>>29473524
>Or...you know...to qualify.
didnt know there was a city named "To qualify, USA" underagefag. And see pic related, Mr. 'its almost as wide as a front sight post, not half the width' Stolen Valor

btw, this pic is for a M16, not a M4 like you "To qualify, USA" with

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>>29473480

Three pouches, three mags each, plus one in the chamber, for a total of 10 mags, or 300 rounds of ammunition.

If you need to expend any more ammo than that in a single sitting, your mistake is not carrying too little ammo. It's getting in the situation you are in the first place.

>>29473502
>hey look, I can do that too!
It was a joke, not a dick, stop taking it so hard.

Personally, I own and shoot both 7.62x39 and 5.45. I'm guessing you own neither, otherwise you wouldn't be acting like a man child.

>your bitchass belongs in your containment thread /arg/ and /tfa/
Yes, you do
>>29473530
>find me some GT 5.45.
SGAmmo gets it in every once in a while and plenty of places still have 7n6 at reasonable prices.

4/10 for making me reply

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>>29473574
>>29473524
pic attached. fuck 4chinz.

>>29473549
>muh Aristotle retorts!
Doesnt change the fact everything I have said thus far is still true, besides a misnomer on a round that is equally unobtainium.
Go look at gel test. 5.45 lead core is literally shit, and on par with 7.62 on terms of yaw rate.

>>29473610
>Doesnt change the fact everything I have said thus far is still true, besides a misnomer on a round that is equally unobtainium.
>Go look at gel test. 5.45 lead core is literally shit, and on par with 7.62 on terms of yaw rate.
You're unimaginably retarded. I just hope that you're trolling and not being serious.

>>29473607
>SGAmmo gets it in every once in a while
have you not been buying ammo for the past 3 years? SGAmmo has made a statement about GT 5.45 a long ass time ago that they are no longer going to make it, and that GT 7.62 doesnt reliably come in, and they are likely to cut ties with their current connection due to missed production dates.

>>29473630

>GT 7.62 doesnt reliably come in

they've been in stock consistently for months

>>29473630
Go ahead and make shit up. The reason that 5.45 GT hasn't been brought in is because they have Russian military contracts. Also so what? It's almost identical to other lead core, bi-metal jacket 5.45 as far as penetration. You should really get a trip so we can just filter you.

>>29473590
Is there a good chest rig or set of pouches out there for carrying? I've been looking at this thing:

http://www.amazon.com/VISM-NcStar-Chest-CVAKCR2921B-Black/dp/B005E98Z4K/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1459656302&sr=8-3

Whats your opinion on Chinese Flatbacks? What to look out for? I heard the ones marked Made in China are the good ones, and the ones marked Norinco or Polytech are crap? Or is that the other way around?

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>>29473574
>>29473610

Every one and their mother has seen that diagram. But I promise, the 300m targets are about the same width as the post on an M16/M4. Plus those torso things the Army uses are like the size of malnourished Vietnamese shits or so. Maybe I'm exaggerating that, but they definitely seem smaller than my torso.

There are many things about me I will not dispute, but stolen valor is not one of them. Get fucked 'tardotron.

>>29473772
Don't even bother trying. He's probably some ROTC cadet that thinks he's a know it all because once a week he gets to wear a uniform.

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>>29473875

*shakes head*

Yeah. You're right. He's just a fucktard.

>>29473772
>Plus those torso things the Army uses are like the size of malnourished Vietnamese shits or so.
funny, seeing as you are stationed where those vietnam fucking shits reside.

>>29473946

Dunno what to tell you.

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>>29472608
>2016
>still no SLR-104CRs

>>29474830
I feel y' man. It amazes me that they haven't yet.

>>29469071
>HURRRR RIFUL IS FINE XDDDDDD
get out

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>>29475716
Sexy

So, I'm looking at getting a zastava m92

Is there anything I should know before I go in?

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>>29476034
My diamonds are so dick right now

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Question, what do you guys think is better ak47 or 74?

Me personally 74, thoughts?

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>>29476230

i love the 7.62x39 desu.

I live in a city, and if shtf i would like a cartridge that can go through stuff + can have a short ak 104 style barrel without a ton of fps loss.

+ its a good hunting round for boar hunting.
Sure, .308 is better in any aspect....but its also heavier.

>>29476230
74 are logically better than 47s, but akm are on pair with 74s

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>>29476260
lol are you noguns?

>>29475342
I mean, personally, I agree with him.
I like the bottom one more than the top, but that muzzle device is ugly as sin.
But for some reason I like the longer quad rail more than the shorter one.

>>29476283
I...

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>>29476188
IIIIIIIIIMMMMMM NUCLEAR

who gives a fuck about lead projectiles when you've got legit 7n6 with mild steel core penetrators?

it's the best projectile for AK's, period.

>>29476258
Nice! Who made that? And what model?

>>29476346
But my ak is in 7.62x39

>>29476368
It's a saiga mk03, he's German

>>29476406

well you gain soft barrier penetration +4 due to heavier weight projectile.

also you can get some hunting loads. i need a 7.62 ak to remove bacon and antler.

>>29473530
GT sucks compared to 7n6. There nothing alike.

>>29476789
Please tell me whats different other than the bit of steel.

anybody from commiefornia here? I might have to move there for work and wondering what sort of butchering I need to do to my WASR to still be legal.

>>29477262
No air pocket.

>>29477396
Every 5.45 thats imported has that.

>>29477164
9x39mm VSS love it

>>29476258

You posted something that violates US law

>>29477611
>You posted something that violates US law

wut?
>SBRs legal in US
>nobody cares about 922r
>above all, he's in Germany
Anon, you're either retarded or this is the worst b8 I've seen since that one retard tried to start at 7.62x39 vs 5.45 argument last night.

>inb4 I was only pretending to be retarded
doubt it

>>29477662

Owning this violates US law, it may be ok in Germany, but this sites TOSS specified US Law

>>29477420
Then why doesn't all the imported 5.45x39 perform like 7n6?

>>29477734
Please specify which law.

>>29469059
ak +sljvo ! Epic

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>>29469059
>>29477774
hi bro

>>29477734
>Owning this violates US law
Alright, I'm bored, so I'll humor you.
1) Which US law does it violate, if any?
2) Why should someone who is in, and posting from, another sovereign nation give a fuck about US laws if the law being broken is possession of what would be an illegal item in the US, but is legal in their nation?

That would be like sperging over someone from Amsterdam posting an image of them eating a pot brownie.

As long as the image itself isn't illegal (CP) then it's not a big deal in the least.

Would a QC checked WASR make for a good truck/car gun?

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My vepr I just finished

>>29478084
Yes.

>>29478094
Not bad, needs a 45 round bakelite though.

>>29478084
No, you want something small like an undeefolder. I use an NPAP underfoplder and its so small when folded up, I can throw it anywhere I want, and its easy to fold and unfold the stock in a second.

>>29478141
What about an RH10 with a chopped barrel?

>>29469142
where did you get that furniture? it looks great

>>29469761
>pulling a gun on an armed man

good idea i guess...

>>29473610
>Go look at gel test. 5.45 lead core is literally shit, and on par with 7.62 on terms of yaw rate.

Not trying to be That Guy, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxtIDUdDLOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxtIDUdDLOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Pf6-AqiA4

To be honest, family, all this commercial 5.45mm, at least in unobstructed shots in ballistic gelatin, seems to behave EXACTLY like the steel core surplus. It yaws rapidly and violently, damaging simulated soft tissue out of all proportion to its paper ballistics. 5.45mm earned its reputation as "the poison bullet" with this level of performance, which is IDENTICAL with commercial FMJ ammo in this caliber.

>"it's shit"

You lost me here. Are you expecting it to yaw and fragment like 5.56mm M193? 5.45mm doesn't do that, at least not with FMJ--not with the thick steel jackets the Russians put on their commercial ammo anyway. Are you expecting it to punch through steel plates like the steelcore surplus does? Why? I have no expectation of that due to the different construction of the bullet.

It wouldn't be my first choice for SHTF/"zombie apocalypse" but I sure wouldn't have any heartburn about it if my Romy WASR2 were what ended up being in my hands if I ever had to repel boarders.

Note that I'm not even talking about 7.62x39 here.

>>29478265
It got the term "poison bullet" because of the gangrene and other shit from not being treated in proper time. Hurr durr the Muj wherent the smartest people.

>>29477735
But it does, sempai, at least in FMJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Pf6-AqiA4

It kind of annoys me to see "ballistic gel tests" where we see only one or maybe two rounds tested. We get no idea of consistency without watching more tests of the same ammo.

But this is the Golden Tiger 5.45mm everyone seems to be talking about, and it doesn't tumble until 5" of gel has been penetrated. Barnaul "Silver Bear" yaws at 2". Neither of them has the steel core, of course. And I'm not sure whether there's any practical difference between the two. Good center mass hits on a bad guy with either round are going to ruin his whole day and very possibly put him in a mood to give up the fight and contemplate his life choices.

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VZ's and AK's together <3

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>>29471469
>922R compliance
>anything

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lol

>>29478112
I'd like to get one, last time at the fun show I was only able to find a 45 round bulgy waffle mag. I would hate to see how much the 45 round bakelite cost.

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>>29478450
Subscribe to Aim Surplus' email list. They'll probably get some more eventually. They come in waves.

Wish I could get some more from Ukraine to sell at a good price. These things have gone way up.

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http://www.amazon.com/Surplus-China-Rifle-Bandoleer-Cartridge/dp/B00GMO8ZRI

I feel like I'd be grossly overpaying for this. Am I getting ripped off?

>>29478425
I remember when they were supposed to be good mags.

>>29478524
I think he was referring to how the C39V2 and RAS are out of spec.

>>29478546
I've heard they've been iffy before the Century guns being out of spec.

>>29478501
Yeah, by about ten bucks.

>>29478501
>>29478683
Actually, just saw the free shipping part. Go for it.

>>29475898
>>29475904
hot damn...... china makes a whole lot of shit, but they dont fuck around when it comes to Chairman Meowwww and his gunz.....
just look at that fit and (now worn in some spots) finish. Even the axis pins have been treated in the same fashion as HK treating their extractor claws on their pistols.

>>29476034
>AK107 in 5.45
FUCK OBAMA!

>>29476230
5.45 with 7n6 over 7.62 with lead core. 7.62 lead over 5.45 lead.

>>29476406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwL_o2MvMbk
watch this and put your fears to rest....

>>29476789
That is what I keep trying to tell these newfag fuckers....

>>29478845
They assume it's all the same.

>>29477474
That's an SR3M desu

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>/arg/ caliber shitpost edition

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>>29476034
I want that stock looks neato, also look like 5.5mm stock.

Saw this in the Azerbaijan/Armenia thread, is that a border guard green mag on the right?

I never used to like the look of Bakelite mags but they are really starting to grow on me

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QUICK! Post all of your ak102 pics!

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>>29479353
Looks too dark to be a 74 border guard mag.
They are a lot lighter than the 47 green bakelites.
But there are plenty of variances in mag runs, so who knows.

>>29479455
What light mount?

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Tomorrow, gents

One more day until rifle arrives

how do I kill time

>>29479743
Visit /soc/

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>>29471411
(You)

>>29475904
Norinco ?

>>29473426
I like your ak senpai

1, Just how bad are wire stocks? I've been looking for a folding stock and i can get one with a sling plate for 100 bucks. I'm sure the cheek weld sucks but is it okay for shooting to 150 yards with any accuracy?

2, Could I clamp a rail mount to my gas tube for a light mount or should I invest in an ultimak?

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>get my new Arsenal slr-107fr
>at home
>have a full mag
>decide to cycle a round just for shits and giggles, see what it feels like prior to range day
>pull back on charging handle
>corner of the dust cover gouges the shit out of my thumb
>bleeding fucking everywhere

Guys, my AK might be angry with me.

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>>29473426
gib me that AK9 handguard senpai

>>29480964
Nah.
That's just to show you it's yours.
My new AKs usually draw first blood when I'm removing the FCG for the initial cleaning.
>And I know it's gonna happen, but I still don't tie up the hammer spring.

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>>29480964
No, it's just tasted your blood. That's the first step to bonding with it. At least yours didn't have a wasp hiding in it.

>>29478499

I bought 10 or so when AIM had them last time.

>>29481071
>have wasp phobia
>see this

Brb spraying down my AK with wasp killer. Either that or firing a full mag of Tul into the desert to fumigate anything inside it.

>>29481153
Yeah, it was before I had even fired it. It stung me when I tried to take out the recoil spring for the first time.

>>29481153
lol if you use wasp killer without actually killing wasps with it it literally fucking attracts them

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>>29481176
>>29481153
>>29481071
>>29480964
AK arrives tomorrow and I don't know what any of this shit means

>>29481067
Fucking hell that hammer spring. It took me one time of being lazy and not using a wire tie. After that I learned.
>>29481095
Wise. I wish I had done the same because a lot of people got Izhmash 45 rounders from those. Shits rare dawg. Nobody I talked to would sell me theirs.
>>29481071
Found a stinkbug in my receiver once. I had been tolerating them in my house until then. After that I took no prisoners.

>>29480950
>Just how bad are wire stocks?
Awful just like underfolders. You can never get lined up with irons properly without a lot of time spent adjusting your face properly. That's not even beginning to touch on the uncomfortable feeling of those stocks. Ugh...

>>29479466
>>29479353
probably just paint.

There was a /k/unt on here who had some pretty close replicas using translucent green paint on real bakes....

>>29480950
>should I invest in an ultimak?
you gonna get a burnt hand. Clamp rails seem to work, but flashlight better not be rubber.

>>29481242
>Fucking hell that hammer spring.
I have literally never had this problem....ever. Just make sure you tuck it over on itself like you are supposed to, and then dont touch the fucker. Also, a dental pic with a 90deg hook on it helps wonders.

>>29481293
I do but nothing ever goes easy with an AK FCG so I always end up fucking with it in ways I shouldn't, that's when it slips loose.

>>29480950
Go for the ultimak

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>>29473480
this many

What's the cheapest box of bulk 1000 rd AK food I can get my hands on?

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>>29473480
Many

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>>29481293
>There was a /k/unt on here who had some pretty close replicas using translucent green paint on real bakes

I'm still here, yo.

>>29481435
Bulk Ammo has 122gr FMJ for $259.75

>>29481481
What's the paint recipe?

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>>29481435
i got my barnauls for about 291€

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>>29481493
Tamiya translucent green paint.
And use a dark red bake.

>>29481481
>>29481493
>>29481508
>inb4 fake border guard mags flood gunbroker

so what makes up a good cleaning kit anyway? I need a list for when I pick this thing up. Barristol, some strips of cloth or something and some wire brshes and a toothbrush?

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>>29481542
Nah, it'd be pretty easy to tell.
The paint hasn't held up that great.
>And as far as I know there's only one 7.62x39 green bakelite in the country.

I just did it for shits and giggles after I saw this guy's AK on one of the forums.
But I think mine turned out pretty good.

>>29481542
>gunbroker
You'd have better luck on armslist.

>>29481709
>Nah, it'd be pretty easy to tell.
While that's true, there's still people trying to sell PSLs as SVDs all the time.

A fool and his money easily part ways, I suppose.

>>29481435
pls bookmark http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_54/130052_AK47_Ammo_Price_Lists___check_here_for_the_best_prices_on_mail_order_ammo_.html

It updates hourly.

You're welcome.

>>29481615
That's what I use. I lube with white lithium grease.

>>29481738
Fair enough, but for the price that it would command it would instantly draw a lot of scrutiny.
>If you asked the price a real one, you'd get only real collectors and that'd go nowhere fast.
>If you priced it at a few hundred to try and part some retard with his cash you might be able to, but there'd probably end up being some backlash when they found out.

But as you said, a fool and his money.

>>29481880
When/where/why do you lube the rifle? Is it for the bolt or FCG?

>>29481894
>If you priced it at a few hundred to try and part some retard with his cash you might be able to, but there'd probably end up being some backlash when they found out.
Oh, absolutely. Probably why >>29481731 said that you'd have better luck on armslist.

Either way, it'd be a dick move, and guys like that ruin the community.

>>29481944
>Either way, it'd be a dick move, and guys like that ruin the community.

Agreed.
Doing it for yourself is one thing, but trying to pass it off as real to some unsuspecting dupe is shitty.

>>29481944
>>29482065
So in forty years some shit head kid will get gramp's green Bakelite AK and end trying to sell it for major dosh?

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Anyone have any experience with the bonesteel side folders?

>>29482333
I've heard a lot of good things.

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I know one of you guys has the russian army version of this pepe. pls post it.

>>29482332
In 40 years it will be illegal to own a water gun, no worries

>>29481481
yeeeeee, there ya are.
>>29481508
what have you done you fool, you've messed with the natural order!!!

>>29482333
Id rather the stock that comes on the SAM7SF... That allen screw that holds the tubes in doesnt look very reassuring, shoulda been spotwelded.

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>>29482344

>>29482427
Not the one I'm looking for.

>>29481615
>so what makes up a good cleaning kit anyway?
The one that goes in the buttstock. Only other thing you need is outers gun oil in a container if you wanna go bare minimum, or outers nitro solvent in addition to that, seeing as most bullets the AK eats are just copper washed steel jackets and not actually Cu/Zn. I think EG made an actual brass brush that fits onto the AK cleaning rod, but not sure.

>>29481911
Not him, but anything that slides gets grease, anything that rotates gets oil. Just remember grease holds onto sand more than sand holds onto oil.

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>>29478501
yes

do not buy amazon

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Military-Original-Vietnam-War-Chinese-Type-56-AK-Chest-Rig-Ammo-Pouch-/201374934494?hash=item2ee2e1a5de

>>29482499
Those tits can't be real

>>29482473
This AK won't have a buttstock kit. I was told to avoid steel ammo, I guess that's why.

So by slide you mean the bolt carrier and the FCG, and by rotate maybe the bolt itself?

>>29482499
that chick looks like shes 3' 11"
>literally 8 cinderblocks tall

>>29482519
That's the perfect height

>>29482515
>I was told to avoid steel ammo
this is wrong. brass cased ammo is actually worse because the claw extractor is known to rip rims off while trying to eject after it bends them forward when loading.

If lacquer coated cases are getting stuck in your AK or you are having FTE's you need to stick a chamber brush in there and clean the fucker out good. You best bet is Silverbear due to the fact they dont coat the cases in clear paint, but rather zinc plate them.

>>29482555
Does FTE mean Fail To Eject, or stovepiping?

>>29482571
Or failure to extract. Context is key when saying FTE.

Stovepipe is a FTE lol

>>29482590
What's the difference between extracting and ejecting?

Is extracting taking the casing from the chamber, and ejecting is the casing being thrown from the firearm?

>>29482632
its the same thing

>>29482632
>Is extracting taking the casing from the chamber, and ejecting is the casing being thrown from the firearm?

Basically, yes.

>>29482645
No it's not, that anon had it right.

The extractor is the piece of steel on the bolt that extracts the casing from the chamber. The ejector is the piece of receiver rail in the receiver that knocks it out, ejecting it.

Still need info on Chinese Flatbacks, which to buy and what to look out for.

>>29482632
you hit it on the head bub.

>>29482645
go be stupid elsewhere.

>>29482757
Guess all that World of Guns playing payed off, I was wondering why there was part of the bolt called the 'extractor'

>>29482798
I only played a bit. They had some steps mixed up in (i wanna say...) the makarov disassembly and another gun... think it was the BHP.

other than that, it was pretty good. Never bought it though.

>>29482678
Chimps, Im the guy who has the contact for VSS/AS VAL mags for sale, I didnt get a chance to respond to your email over the weekend, but I will respond today.

>>29482828
I got the AK a few months back, before I even decided to buy one. Im sure it doesnt show everything, but it's definitely helped. Helps me not be so lost when I watch stuff on youtube

>>29482946
Thanks, it took me 4 days to respond anyways so don't feel too bad.

So just to recap;

I can clean the AK with Ballistol, brush all the tupes and chambers with a toothbrush or a wire brush along with some strips of cloth, wipe it down with some towels, and then apply oil and/or grease?

>>29478265
I always found ballistics gel tests to be kinda dumb. Unless fucking Fat Albert is attacking you, no human is that large to have a bullet tumble through them for that long.

>>29473496
I like Tim's videos, but holy shit is he ever fragile. Disagree in the comments with something he says and he launches into personal attacks and name calling. I've never seen a grown man take a simple comment so personally and appear to get massively butthurt by them.

>>29483035
Email sent about the mags.

>>29483376
HMG stg?

as in... Heavy Machine Gun Sturmgewehr?

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>>29483035
Chimps, How much would one of pic related sell for on USA market?

>>29483011
nah it shows everything, idk how they found every single part and converted it to CAD, it was just the steps they took to take it apart and put it back together were physically impossible to do without breaking something.

>>29483226
use Outers nitro solvent. Wire brush only caked on carbon buildup, ie bore/chamber/boltface/tipofpiston, everything else gets toothbrush or just rags/q-tips. Go watch a video on youtube. Oh and dont forget to buy a gasport reamer.

>>29483237
its a standard. Its actually very deceiving because they find to puncture skin is roughly the same as 4" of penetration into a gel block. So when you watch those test, automatically cut off the first 4" of the gel, bc that simulates the bullet piercing the skin. Bone correlates to 4-8" depending on the thickness, and organs are all over the place, some being softer than the gel, others being harder.

you want a minimum of 18" of penetration. fuck what anyone else says. 16-18" will get through bone and skin, and end up going through what it was meant to without failing to penetrate sufficiently.

>>29483456
Ill give you $3.50.... jk, Ive seen them go for ~$60-80 for those and bakes. but im not chimps so.....

>>29483510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Komm6tIUjtI

Here's where I got the idea of using Barristol from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Komm6tIUjtI

So the wire brush only for heavy duty shit?

>>29483399

No. Hill and Mac Gunworks is making an StG reproduction.

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No-ak here:
How do I tell apart the various AK-pattern rifles and how do I know if I'm looking at a no-shit purist AK-47?

>>29483456
If I recognize that photography then probably not much more than what that guy has them listed for on his website.

Ribbed RPK mags are usually $120-170 range, depending on condition. Since that one appears to be a true black it would go for higher. The plums are more common in the yoo ess eh.

>>29483634
I do not take picture, I only source from google.

>>29483456
$150-225 is what I've paid for them in the past.
Depends on if it's a plum or True Black, as well as condition.

>>29483547
wire brush for carbon fouling, aka anything caked in black soot. and make fucking sure its brass and not Stainless Steel or Carbon Steel.

>>29483591
ya gotta Git Gud, fgt...

>>29483674
>>29483634
you niggers been overpaying like fuck.

>>29483667
Got a line on some for the lowlow? Love to see people bringing in mags

>>29483703
aight, brass and not stainless steel or carbon steel. Does it matter if it attaches to the bore thing that comes with the AK or should it be it's own seperate item?

>>29483703
We live in freedomland and we pay freedombux prices. If they were cheap everyone would own one and then I couldn't be cool on the Internet. Just kidding I'm not cool on the Internet nor am I named Alex C.

>>29483722
It should be a brass toothbrush style. Never use bore brushes for scrubbing the inside of the gun. Fuckers are expensive. wait, are you the same guy posting over in QDDTOT also?

>>29483723
AKfiles nigger. Ive seen NOS bakes for ~$70 and those he posted for ~$80, and a little more if true black.

>>29483752
>AKfiles nigger. Ive seen NOS bakes for ~$70 and those he posted for ~$80, and a little more if true black.
Not recently.
>ask me how I know
I monitor the for sale section for these exact mags.

Going rate is about $150 on average now.

>>29483752
Nope, just here. Wait so just don't use bore brushes?

>>29483789
>Wait so just don't use bore brushes?
bore brush is for cleaning inside the barrel only. do not use it for anything else on gun

>>29483752
Nigger post one SPF thread where a ribbed true black RPK mag has gone for less than $100

>>29483828
Understood. I get the feeling that the bore rod included with the AK is kinda useless, even with an attached brush; is that true?

>>29483917
it works, just dont expect it to remove copper fouling. Its really a field brush, just to get the barrel clean, and to agitate any corrosive salts left if you a peasant conscript. Oh, forgot to mention, that cleaning rod has a muzzle cap you gotta drop on before you screw the brush on. that can only reach going thru from muzzle end, which is not recommended because you can fuck up the barrel crown.

>>29482946
>>29483035
Speaking of VSS's

http://www.slaggamfg.com/

Apparently they're going to start machining a prototype the 11th

>>29483591
74 has the massive brake, 47 has a more robust barrel and a ported gas tube, akm had a thin barrel and non-ported gas tube.

very bare bones answer to a very bare bones question.

>>29484033
Not to hurt unicorn fucker's feelings but I have to admit I never actually had faith that they would ever build something that shoots. It just seemed so ambitious. Fuck I'm excited. I also have to admit I was always in the .300blk camp.

>>29484073
Yeah, I kinda felt the same way but held a tiny tiny bit of hope in my heart. Because VSS

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>>29484073
>tfw you knew they wouldn't come through

>>29484170
For a while it really seemed like it was grinding to a halt. I think one of the machinists had health problems in his family or something.

I wonder if the critical components will be close enough to the real thing that you can use real VSS parts? I know he used a lot of real parts on loan to make the measurements. I know it's not hard to find a real scope and handguards. A real mag would look good for display. I've never seen a real stock for sale but it can't be impossible to find. Walnut stock just wouldn't look right.

I have a Bulgarian AK74 parts kit and an Arsenal CHF 5.45 barrel.

Unless one of you has a better suggestion, I'm sending it to this guy.

http://spiveyarms.com/

No I am not interested in building it myself. I would like some one with the tools and knowledge to do it.

Is there anyone else you guys would recommend sending the rifle to? Because once I scrape the cash I'm sending it to Spivey otherwise.

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https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/m92-ak47-krink-rifle-sunburst-orange-wood-detail.html?Itemid=0
Worth the money or no?

>>29484321
bump for interest.
Also whats the best 5.45 or 7.62 ak to buy for a krink build?

>>29484401
Arsenal UR stuff

>>29484242
I think these are different guys

>>29484321
Wood furniture on a Kalashnikov with mismatched colors always triggers my autism.

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Hey guys

Was thinking of buying a VEPR from MOLOT for fun when I found pic related: a "tactical" version of the VEPR sold by Atlantic Arms. It seems they get the VEPR from MOLOT but then replace the wood furniture with a mag pistol grip, adjustable buttstock and manticore keymod rail and then add a flash hider.

I'm a prepper and normally disregard tactical firearms given my plan involves bowhunting BUT I have to confess this "Tactical" firearm intrigued me. I confess to not knowing much about VEPR, MOLOT or Atlantic Firearms but know the AK community here does and figured I'd come ask you your thoughts.

Video related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwg7rHcCP9U

>>29484916
>AR stock

NO

>>29484916
>Atlantic is an okay dealer
>molot is great
only problem i see with that vepr is the mags are hard to find, and i see people talk about barrel whip with 20inch barrels

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what do you guys think
7.62x39 Norinco $850
>its a LGS

>>29484302
>paying that much to get a gun built
Why dont you get some friends?

>>29485455

I have friends. They are all normies.

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*blog post*

Just got out today after a long stint city side.

>>29485893
m70?

>>29485901
DDI hungarian u/f. I put russian laminate hand guards on it

>>29485933
hows that underfolder feel? going to paracord it?

>>29485091
sure why not. I mean they are goofy and have a shitty trigger but at $850 its still better and more durable than a tavor

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Ak won't cycle this mag properly.
Mag has a mark on it, any way to fix it?

>>29486100
It is paracorded. You can't see it in this shot though. I mag dumped my drum with it without a hitch. If you angle the rifle just slightly, there is no stock slap. The paracord is only there to keep the cold from burning my face in sub-zero temperatures. I had aluminum burn through my skin in -11 before. Took weeks to heal. Like second degree burn.

Anyone here ever refurnish their AK?

>>29486218
acetone(10min with scrubing) and bleach bath (2-3 hours)
sand with 140 grit then 200 grit
minwax varnish and polyethelyne

>>29486301
The acetone and bleach solution bath is to remove finish, right?

What's the polyethylene for?

>>29486408
a sort of protective coat, makes it a bit glossy, a lot of ak guys dont like poly tho

>>29486461
I might skip that part then, or at least look intop it first. I didn't realize just how many different ways there are to do this

>>29486554
people here swear by russian shellac

New thread

>>29487494

>>29487494

>>29487494