They are literally coming to take your guns

so if you get dragged into this by someone with ill intent and you come out at the end, innocent.
Can you take that fucker back to civil court and sue the fuck out of him or her?

>>28387949
On the plus side to that it does allow guns to be stored at an ffl by the owner if this were to happen.

This is only an issue for crazy people. I don't much see the problem. Call me when their is actual proof of rampant abuse of this and not just " what if" make believe scenarios

>>28388014
"I don't much see the problem"

Holy shit this is why I don't fucking browse /k/ anymore.

>>28387949
>be at Thanksgiving dinner with family
>suddenly the topic of politics comes up
>liberal extended family
>left shit spewed back and forth, you sit silently as to not reveal your powerlevel
>they turn to you
>"What do you think anon? Do we need more gun laws?"
>"Well no, because criminals don't follow laws and will get guns anyways..."
>full libshittery ensues, you refute every claim with logic and facts, but to no avail
>in their butthurt they begin slandering you, calling you a violent baby killer
>wake up the next day to SWAT wanting to "inspect your safe"

Yea, what a great idea. Everything is a mental illness now, to include disagreeing with the government. How any of you can call yourselves /k/ommandos and support this is beyond me.

>>28388040
This. Reddit is far too ingrained here now.

>>28388044
Finally someone with intelligence and thank you for proving the point of this issue at hand.

>>28388044

This. Anyone with a grievance against someone can file it and the guy on the other end gets his door kicked in.

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>>28388073

>>28388040

To be honest, people with any kind of mental issues, past or present, should lose their right to keep and arms for the rest of their lives. If you can't handle life and have have depression, autism or some other excuse for your failure at life, you shouldn't own guns. Period.

>>28388094
I understand that and your right but this is not the proper way to go about it since this system can be abused very badly.

>>28388094
Disagreeing with the government is a mental issue
Wanting to be left alone and bother nobody is a mental issue
Wanting to be self-sufficient is a mental issue
The government will expand the list of "mental issues" until everything short of breathing is a mental issue and use that as an excuse.
Liberty and Justice for all, and "shall not be infringed". So called "mental illness" should not debar a free man the use of arms. The use of arms against an innocent in an unlawful manner should. You think that you're trying to stop crime before it starts but in actuality you're just making it easier for more rights to be taken away.

Lawsuits arguing a lack of due process when?

>>28388119
Never. Because CAfags are that cuck. Nothing will happen, and more guns will get melted down. CAfags should have tarred and feathered a few politicians by now.
Even if it did make it to court, you know the judges will drag it out longer than anyone can afford and still get their way. Whatever happened to Hollis v Holder?

>>28388106

Do you honestly think that a person who has history of depression or has a personality disorder, Assperger syndrome, OCD or something similar should be allowed to own guns? WTF is wrong with some of the people on this board? Reasonable commonsense gun laws are not your enemy.

>>28388094
How do you expect firearm development when all the autist engineers are barred from owning guns?

>>28388129
The 2A does not say "people with perceived mental illness should not be able to keep and bear arms"
>commonsense
The only "reasonable commonsense" gun law is to lift all gun restrictions and allow constitutional carry. Not a fucking inch you gun-grabbing piece of shit.

>>28388129
>depression, OCD

So you're saying 90% of the population?

>>28388129

Also, ideally I would like to see a federal law banning firearms from people who have not served in the military but that's not going to happen. You give something to Uncle Sam, show that you're a man and get something in return - your right to own guns.

>>28388044
Yep, this is exactly how it would likely go down. Best to avoid any contact with liberal family members from now on. They've become your worst enemy.

>>28388129
Holy fuck leave /k/ forever.

I don't own any guns but am pretty damn pro-fun. This kind of law is so filled with faulty logic. 'You may commit future crimes therefore we must confiscate all your guns to prevent this.' It's straight property theft on the condition that you may commit future crimes. Imagine if you had an assault charge levied against you and the government confiscated your car.

Nightmare mode, I'm from Illinois and live in shitcago. This law is absurd.

>>28388129

Yo, fuck you. I mean it. Fuck you and everyone like you.

>>28388129
I was diagnosed with Aspergers and given depression medication when I was 9 because my stepdad beat the shit out of me and I wasn't allowed to socialize. Fuck you, drink nail polish remover.

>>28388141
Going to argue with you here. I feel like combat veterans should be heavily vetted before given the opportunity to own a firearm. Dat suicide rate is a real bitch.

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>>28388164
On my way.

You have nothing to be afraid of as long as you aren't dangerous.

>>28388165
Should vets not be allowed to own knives or rope either?

>>28388165
>can use a fully automatic weapon to defend the country
>can't use a semi auto weapon to defend themselves
>opportunity to have a natural birthright
Fuck you man. Stupid civilian fuck.
>dat suicide rate is real
It's not your job nor your business to stop someone from killing themselves. People are in charge of their own lives, and should he decide to take it is on him. Taking a gun away from a suicidal person doesn't make them less suicidal. If someone wants to die they will find a way.

>>28388177
Until you piss off a roommate/GF/wife/ex-wife/parents/etc. and they lie to the court that you are a danger to yourself and others. Judge issues a warrant and restraining order while you get a visit from the police who want your guns.

This law has a very high chance (like fabricated domestic high) of being abused.

>>28388165
If you're going as far as preventing them from owning guns, just make mandatory therapy instead, which will actually FIX the issue of suicidal thoughts instead of covering it up

>Own guns in CA
>Argue with gf
>tell GF its over and she needs to GTFO
>GF goes to police, tells them I saod I would kill myself because she dumped me
>Court believes her. Tells me to give up guns for 21 days.
>she taunts me for a week with sarcastic texts
>I get snarky
>in court she shows texts of her being nice sarcastically nice.
>Court doesnt see sarcasm
>Court only sees me lash out
>Lose guns for a year.
>GF calls cops and says I got a gun somehow
>Cops do a no knock raid in the middle of the night
>They kill my dog
>They tear apart my house
>No guns found. Takes 8 hours.
>Late for work. Fall asleep at work.
>fired.
>At the end of the year I get guns back.
>No apartment, no job. No dog.
>Kill myself.
What coukd possibly go wrong with this law?

>>28388177
This >>28388184
Women already lie to the courts in divorce and child custody cases. Nothing good can come from this law.

>>28388129
We are pattern seeking creatures. We like things neat, which is easier to read and locate.

We like things in a place we remember, not strewn around like a fucking slob

I'd rather an OCD sufferer who can remember TD, takes care of his guns and knows exactly what he is doing with them as he has practiced a thousand times than a fucktard who thinks he knows his guns and ND's straight in to the roof of the indoor range.

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>>28388177
You have nothing to be afraid of if you have nothing to hide...

>>28388205
That's a horrible example. The /pol/tards are going to swarm in full force now.

>>28388165
So I can be trusted with a block of C4 and to inspect parachutes when I get home, but I have to be vetted to own a gun?

Also you should know that we have been getting budget cuts lately. One of the first things to go was range time. So guys have been buying ARs to practice (yes, we also enjoy shooting, but we have to be able to shoot to do our job). So owning an AR is litterallt helping us defend our nation (or fight our oil wars depending on how you look at it.)

>>28388205
There is literally nothing wrong with National Socialism.

>>28388191
>Kill myself
But anon, that's impossible, they already took your guns!

>>28388215
This is unrelated but I have a question.
How to get a waiver for RE3?

>>28388212
Shit, too late, already happening

>>28388228
What did you do?
Also this link may help you.
http://arba.army.pentagon.mil/change-re-code.cfm

>>28388179
>>28388187
>>28388180

Not trying to argue not letting someone have guns, just saying that vetting should be different.

At most I'm thinking it would just be a consent form from a single person in that person's unit. Just as a way to speak with someone.

You're never going to stop suicides but I'll be damned if a familiar voice doesnt help to prevent it. Guns are an easy road. Even just a couple of minutes of hesitation can change your mind.

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>>28388094
>o be honest, people with any kind of mental issues, past or present, should lose their right to keep and arms for the rest of their lives. If you can't handle life and have have depression, autism or some other excuse for your failure at life, you shouldn't own guns. Period.
Go fuck yourself

>>28388212
It's exactly the same shit, we are not trusted to wipe our asses, defend ourselves and police our own actions. We need somebody else to do it for us and to catch us when we do something they do not agree with.

I do not buy it, my right to privacy trumps your need to be told what to do.

>>28388247
Underage drinking. Thank you so much for this link.

>>28388177

>police kick in door of vet
>3 tours, seen lots of friends die, has PTSD from IEDs and traps
>The loud noise kicks him into Andrew H Brannon mode
>secures house
>entire police team dead in minutes
>goes Rambo mode
>gets wounded severely, captured
>the last of his guns finally confiscated
>as he's sitting in the gas chamber, the executioner starts to close the door
>whispers "thank you for your service"

God bless America

>>28388129
Go fuck yourself, noone means minor mental conditions when they say that crazy people shouldn't have guns.

And fuck's sake, to the rest of /k/, the whole "they'll just expand what counts as a mental issue" thing would never be tolerated by the main portion of the population. The 'normies' understand the difference between an anxiety condition and fucking Schizophrenia.

>>28388248
>consent form from a single person in that person's unit
No. Fuck off. This is why they are called "individual" rights.

>>28388259
No I'm not a NatSoc. I'm with you on the issue. I'm saying that using Nazism as an example of why gun laws are bad is a bad example because of our unwanted guests who support Nazism.

>>28388221
Except for everything.

>>28388261
No problem, its my job as an NCO to do things like this.
Underage drinking? Let me guess, they lectured you on the Army values...such bullshit! Not that the Army values are BS but how they are applied to people who go kill people is BS.
Anyway, it shouldnt be too mich of a hangup for you. But Active duty might not take you so be prepared for Reserves or National Guard of you really want to be part of the military again.

>>28388273
The main portion of the population believes the government can do no wrong. Fuck mob rule in any form.

>>28388014
Hey dipshit, this law basically allows another person to seek a court order that essentially deprives you of your 2nd Amendment rights BASED ON HEARSAY and THEIR TESTIMONY ALONE.

KILL YOURSELF. RIGHT NOW.

>>28388283
>The main portion of the population believes the government can do no wrong.
Heh, many keks were had at this statement.

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I think any American that says that this is a good thing, should fucking see that they did the same shit here in Europe.

Guess fucking what, those common sense gun laws are never enough for anti-gunners and they will use any excuse to further restrict guns.

They will also use these new laws to abuse their power and will take your guns at any slight suspicion.

Only a fucking idiot would support things like this. If you are a gun owner and support this shit, you should immediately go to the police station and give up your guns, because sooner or later they will take them from you.

>>28388215
Again I wouldn't ask a person who has served combat tours to take a gun safety course, or worry about anything other than a conversation. But if they're lonely a 5 minute 'I'm buying a new gun, wanna go shooting sometime?' talk may be all a person needs.

>>28388291
They do, it is the greatest Double-Think in the history of our race.

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>>28388296
>posts entirely unrelated pic
>makes barely related post
>is probably going to tell us he isn't from /pol/ and has been here forever

>>28388277
Alright fuck it. Let the dipshits kill themselves. One less welfare queen to worry about.

>>28388184
to add to this: My mother told the courts my father was a drunk pill addict who smokes weed all day and never wanted to talk to us after the divorce. She got custody of my sister and myself and after around 2 years she up and moved us all across the country
For the next 6 years I was told that all the things she said were true
When I got into a fight with her and she kicked me out I went to live with my dad
Turns out my mother was so addicted to smoking weed all day that she wasted my fathers money on it, my dad would drink of fridays like a normal fucking blue collar worker, but not be drunk most of the rest of the week, and he was on pain medication for his back but not an addict. He also had called me at least once a week but my mother always said I wasn't able to come to the phone. Eventually she just changed her phone number without telling him
>But no guys, women never lie for their own gain
Yes I fucking have trust issues, and apparently thats a mental disorder according to everyone whos ever asked if I have any issues with trust.

>>28388320
>>28388184
>implying this happens all the time
Sure is MRA in here.

>>28388316
Now imagine a world where expressing your opinion got you a visit from SWAT.
>you don't support the military and thus have a mental illness! no guns for you
Dumbass.

>>28388335
Stop trying to derail the thread you faggot mangina.

>>28388297
Well there was that one vet who was depressed and called a veterans help line. He talked for a bit and felt better. At some point the person n the other end asked if he had guns, he said yes. After hanging up and going to bed, the cops showed up and called him on his phone and asked hin to step out of his house. He went outside and the police pointed guns at him and demanded he consent to a search of his home. When he denied them, they kicked in his door and trashed his house and confiscated his guns.
My point being that YOU are probably reasonable and would know where the line is, bit not everyone can refrain from "conductor we have a problem" behavior when guns are nvolved.

>>28388338
Derail the thread from what? Whining about how all women are liars and bitches and will use the law to take your guns away?

>>28388335
I dont give a fuck how often it happens. What I know is that if something can affect me in a way I don't like. Then I want no part of it. I'll save my ass before someone elses. It may be selfish but I value myself and my hobbies over some random asshole.

>>28388342
>Whining about how all women are liars and bitches
But Anon, they are.

>>28388291
You don't think that's true?

>>28388336
I'm not about to go stomping on anyone's rights. I never expressed an opinion that supports the idea of only allowing someone in the military owning guns or even preventing the menrally ill from owning guns.

Hell the form could be voluntary, when someone is on terminal leave just a voluntary checkbox requring it. I want to try and come up with solutions to what are serious problems.

The california gun law isn't that. But there are sensible things you can do to mitigate problems that exist. If you see a rise in suicides it's not because of the gun, it's due to other issues but if there's a correlation between recent purchases of handguns by veterans and suicide by handgun then that should be addressed. That doesnt mean ban handguns.

>>28388367
It's a problem that doesn't concern you because you have no experience in the matter. You don't know what the cause of the issue is so you can't do anything to solve it. Just stop.
Want to really stop veteran suicides? Stop giving illegal immigrants free shit when we have homeless vets and empty inhabitable homes for a start.

>>28388044
>>28388044
>Reddit is far too ingrained here now

Reddit is not even close to being as liberal as this anymore

>>28388384
Because they all came here.

>>28388340
I agree with you. I'm not even that committed to this argument. I just like to point out that any kind of sensible debate about guns has multiple levels to it.

Otherwise it's just gun grabbers vs gun nuts.

>>28388384
depends on what board you visit

>>28388382
Like I said, idgaf anymore. Let the welfare queens die.

The law sucks as written since you do not even get a hearing in person for the first 21 day suspension. That's probably even going to get the ACLU on our side for bad precedent alone.

That being said, the most likely place you will see this initially abused is in divorce cases. Let's assume your partner files a vindictive case and the judge agrees with them.

Assuming:

1. You comply with the court order and store your weapons at an ffl.
2. You show up to the following hearing after the wait with a clean record and no violent tweets or shit like that.
3. You have a half-competant divorce lawyer.

Your partner is highly likely to get eaten alive by your lawyer and the judge. They are now on record for filing frivilous complaints against their spouse, and judges are generally pompous asses who do not like being dicked around.

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>>28388014
Ugh. I don't want to believe you're an American. It's like you literally hate freedom.

>>28388382

Suicide has a direct correlation to a lack of strong bonds with friends and family. Giving a service member a material safety net is still a good idea, but it's not going to prevent suicides.

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/suicide/strong-social-ties-protect-men-suicide

>>28388129
>>28388141
>>28388165
>>28388177
>>28388335
b8

>>28388094
Go fuck yourself


Arm the mentally ill now!


Tfw just got an ar


Tfw major depression


Feels bad man, cept for the ar that feels food man.


Guns help me through the shit, thank god for hobbies.

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>>28388094
You've got a mental issue. You know that, right? I promise you that your illustrious government, given the chance, will declare you, I and every other gun owning American as mental cases unfit to own guns. Don't believe me, just look into it. Look who they declare the biggest probable terror threats. They control the language, they decide how the game is played. And you're playing right into it

>>28388442
Correlation ain't causation, bud.

>>28388450
It'd be as easy as classifying hoplophilia as a mental illness.

>>28388461
Yup

>>28388450
Also the guy you responded to needs to look up the politicalization of psychiatry in the USSR.


Or hell look at mental healthcare abuse in America especially in the 70s and earlier.

>>28388014
You are a fucking idiot. I surly hope this is bait. If not, you are one dense mother fucker.

>>28388014
Violation of due process. Will be expanded to to further infringe upon the rights of innocent individuals. Mental illness will soon include "disagreeing with the government's tax code". The FBI or ATF or whoever tells a cop to go tell a judge that you're crazy and bam, you've lost your capability as a citizen to defend the constitution.

>>28388094
In an idealistic world yes, we would prevent the mentally unfit form owning guns. But we're not in an idealistic world, we're in the real world, where such a prevention would require an almost total infringement of second amendment rights, once again disarming the people and making them incapable of defending their other rights.

>>28388129
All gun laws are the enemy. Let's break it down again because you seem to have forgot the statistics.

30,000 gun deaths
20,000 are suicides
7-8000 are gang/ crime related
The rest are simple murders and "mass shootings"

These laws are in place in solve a nonexistent problem. More than 30,000 people die each year from car accidents. More than 500,000 Americans die each year from preventable heart disease and lung cancer.

>Someone with OCD shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm

Dude listen to yourself. That has zero common sense to it.

And once again I'll explain that while ideally the mentally unfit would be barred from accessing firearms, we cannot implement such a control without degrading the 2nd amendment rights of mentally fit person (The absolute vast majority of the population).

To recap, the 2nd amendment right is a fundamental aspect of the constitution, enabling a balance of powers between state and people so that the people can protect their god given rights (or natural rights if you're atheistic) from a tyrannical government, not defined by law, but by reason. A tyrannical government will never be defined as such by law. Get it?

Not a fucking inch.

The right of the PEOPLE, the keep and bear ARMS, SHALL NOT.

>>28388484
Precisely. It's not like this could never happen... It's happened plenty already. It's happening before our very eyes, and some in this thread think it's five, and see no problems with it. I'm not one of those "it's happening" types, but at least recognize that history has a nasty way of being repeated.

>>28388454

And follow up studies have indicated it's likely the single strongest contributing cause in male suicide. Too many men in Wyoming who take their lives have a house, truck, and land.

The material argument just doesn't have the same weight as the social one.

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>>28388506
Five star post. Sincerely mean that.

>>28388507
What I hate is when a legitimate viewpoint loses credibility because of idiots

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>>28388528
Context has a funny way of getting lost here so I'm admittedly confused. Are you saying my post, that which you quoted, is idiotic? Or something else entirely?

>>28388551
Naw man what I mean is when they grab some guy who clearly just escaped from a mental asylum. Then they get him to say stupid shit and act like all gun owners are like that. You know what I mean?

>>28387949

> get list of the names of all of the governor's security detail
> express "concerns" about their stability
> ask governor why his security detail is immune to the same legislation that he signed in to being to deny us of our constitutional rights without due process

Goose, gander, etc.

>>28388014
>only an issue for crazy people
Pretty funny considering "normal" today is actually crazy and "crazy" is what normal use to be. Funny how that works

>>28388044
>going with logic against liberals
> not replying in disgust "dont call me from the hospital when you get shot in cold blood from a criminal who has a gun"

>>28388106
will they even be issues?
supposedly they have mind control powers now, heard it on a Dan Carlin podcast
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/secret-darpa-mind-control-project.html
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-09/darpa-wants-mind-control-keep-soldiers-sharp-smart-and-safe

>>28388614

> speaking to liberals ever

They are mentally handicapped at best and proponents of a contagious psychological disease at worst. Speaking to them cannot yield a positive result.

>>28388637
.....most of my potential dating pool is liberal, I dont actually want gay wizard powers

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>>28388586
I got you now, thanks for the response. I agree. Paint us with the brush that best suits their agenda. It's SOP after every tragedy, ACS why those that don't fit the narrative get less press or are spun in any way that can be used. Terrorists murder innocent folks attending office party? Better enact EOs limiting how guns are sold.

>>28388014
>Anon, it's believed by your family that your mean language is caused by the internet
>Therefor, your cable service is hereby suspended for a week
>Unless we decide that you are still being mean, and suspend you for a year
>Also everyone knows you are mean, and you'll be treated like a criminal because of it

See the issue yet?

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>>28388591
>learn my pronouns CRAZY cis scum

Honestly. Bothering to be a gun owner at all in cali. If the job was that good to stay in/move to that shit hole I'd live in Nevada and buy a prius to commute.

>>28388659
Ugh. Auto correct... ACS? That's not "and" at all. My phone is trying to take my cogent thoughts and transform them into the ramblings of a drunk. Sorry fellow /k/ommandos.

>>28388129
>>28388094
Do ya think anyone should be allowed to own a gun? I mean, there are a lot of potentially violent situations that people get into, and any 'normal' person would be really tempted to shoot other people.....

Live in MA, only thing you have to do is call the cops and say your family member is threatening to kill themselves or someone else. Instant 72hr involuntary comittment for them. Say goodbye to any funs after that

>>28388506
This.
It's not off to assess that this law will be stretched into something terrifying.. well it already is

>>28388044
But they need a court order , I agree it could be an issue in California but states with people with common sense , hopefully the judge won't just issue them just cause

>>28388044
I know that feeling, man. Both sides of my extended family are 100% liberal. It sucks as a libertarian sitting through their discussions of "mandatory" this and "forced" that. But they always ask for my opinion, and they always get ass blasted when they hear it.

>>28388680
All this projecting.

>>28388014
It changes a right into a privilege as determined by a judge. You don't need to be actually crazy. Hell, it's basically impossible to objectively determine what crazy is, seeing as the definition changes all the goddamn time.

>Oh, anon here is a loner who's never had a girlfriend. Clearly mentally unstable! Confiscate his guns

Most hilarious part about this is that this legislation was introduced after Elliot "Can't Dodge the Rodge" Rodger did the dirty deed. However, he only shot like 2 people and used his knife for most of his killings.

>>28388273
Except they don't.
Go fuck yourself, you fucking traitor bitch.

>>28388813
>liberals anti-gunners
>aware of reality

>>28388014
How's the weather in england cunt?

>>28388014
You break up with a girlfriend or go through a nasty divorce. She, like women often do, makes up shit about abuse. Congrats, the cops can now take your guns.

>I don't much see the problem

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>>28388044
>european
>ask mother what she'd do if someone would brake in
>answers she'd jump out of the window

>>28388129
>ocd
>asbergers

>>28388772
they do that shit all the time. cops do what ever the hell they want too a lot of them dont follow the law and you have to fight all that bull shit in court

Use this against Finestine.
Express concern on her mental stability.

>>28388014
>implying the cops and govt dont constantly abuse their power and authority

>>28388140
fucking this.

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>>28387949
>Crisis - Takes about 6 weeks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

>>28388044
>Yea, what a great idea. Everything is a mental illness now
http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm
>38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

>>28388083
since when have you been back?

>>28387976
Yes in civil court, for legal fees.

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>view plebbit thread on this statute
>literally every positive comment says it is unconstitutional, it will be abused, it will be overturned, etc

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3yz24k/a_california_gun_statute_going_into_effect_on_1/?sort=top

Feels good man, /k/ acts like reddit is a gun grabbing hyper liberal shithole but they're on point with this one

>>28388273

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=JkLxDvjY5Gs

Listen to this guy and say that. He literally states that he will not issue firearms licences to old people, young people, "urban" people (read black people), disabled people and women. You give these government cunts the least bit of discretion and they go fucking nuts. It's not a matter of what the "normies" will tolerate.

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>>28388177
Ya blew it

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>>28388588
I like this idea

>>28388094
>implying that mental illness and mental injuries are permanent
>implying people can't and don't get better
>implying you understand mental injury at all

>>28389283
Cops? mehhhhhh
bureaucrat? all fucking day

>>28388644
But if you get wizard powers you can create sex golems.

>>28389237
>senators
>living under the laws they pass

Pick one and only one.

>>28389237
Bitch, do you really think laws apply to the politicians who pass them?

>>28388014
>This is only an issue for crazy people.
so, it's an issue for most /k/ommandos

>>28389596
fuck off we don't need their 2 cents
reddit shill

>>28388129

I have Aspergers and I have guns. I've also been depressed. I have wanted to shoot myself, but I have yet to do it. I have not wanted to shoot anyone aside from anyone potentially assaulting/shooting me.

>>28390457
Whatever gun grabbing faggot

>>28389596
Funny because you're right

>>28388094
>as he posts from his mothers basement

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>... the “gun violence restraining order” law, passed last year, has raised concerns from lawmakers and pro-gun groups about civil liberties and questions about how effective it will really be.

>Modeled after firearms prohibitions in domestic violence restraining orders, the statute allows for law enforcement or “immediate family members” to ask a judge for a restraining order if they feel that someone is a danger to themselves or others. The order would also bar the person from purchasing a firearm by placing them on the state’s do-not-buy list.

Confirmed inability to RTFA, stay paranoid gun /k/lutchers

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The only solution is full proletariat revolution
>You could have prevented this

So...

...are pro-gun people going to start heavily supporting the funding of mental health care in the United States now? As the proper "alternative" you should have been supporting in the first place?

I don't get you Amerifats.

Of course corporate guns is going to be creaming themselves over this because sales are going to spike again. I wouldn't be surprised if the lawmakers behind this had some ties somewhere.

>>28391414
I read it, it's retarded

>>28388102
>your
You're opinion was disregarded

>>28388040
then go back to /pol/ and dig your panic bunker even deeper.

>>28388094
I non-ironically agree, as do most americans. The far right assholes can fuck right off. Moderate gun ownership is the way forward.

>>28388014
Fuck the 4th amendment, right?

>>28388094
First, go ahead an qualify for me what mental illness encompasses. Then go ahead and get a degree in the matter. Then go work in the field for a couple years. Maybe when you come back in 10 years we can have a reasonable discussion about this.

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>>28391725
We've been supporting mental health since ever, but second and third world peasants like are too busy stroking themselves over your superiority complexes to actually cure your ignorance.

If by funding you mean government run healthcare, you can go look at the VA for how well that works out.

>opinion discarded

>>28388659
I want your pic.

>>28393177
I've heard the VA nightmares and I assume pro-gun is pro-veteran, therefore the government itself is not acting in your interests in the realm of mental health.

Fair enough.

Why don't I hear more uproar over the VA disaster though? I swear you people cared more about gays, or the media is just there to distract you with such bullshit.

>>28388129
Go fuck yourself Bloomberg shill.

To take a tangent, if you haven't served in the military or some other kind of public service, you shouldn't be allowed to own weapons either.

>>28388191
>Own Guns in CA
That's where everything started to go south
>GF goes to police, tells them I saod I would kill myself
Your GF is not part of your family, retard. Cops tell her to get fucked. End of scenario.

>>28393237
>Your GF is not part of your family, retard. Cops tell her to get fucked.
Your girlfriend goes to cops. Cops go to judge for warrant. Don't act like they wouldn't.

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Great, now there is an easily abused capacity for people to arrange for the harassment of those who they do not like by law enforcement.

>Dislike coworker/neighbor/ex's new boyfriend
>Call in, claim that I think he's been acting erratic and emotional
>Say that I think he might have firearms
>Police raid his fucking house, if he has firearms they take them, if they find any contraband he's fucked because it's fair game in such a search
>He now has to embark on a lengthy court process to prove his mental and emotional competence to get his property back assuming that he hasn't been killed or arrested in the process by trigger happy SWAT kicking his door down in the middle of the night
>LAPD probably stole his shit
>Citizens can now rat each other out over petty grievances using the boogieman of guns and Law Enforcement as a weapon
>Meanwhile law enforcement gets more and more powers and constitutional protections are eroded

What a time to be alive.

>>28393210
Because most people will just say "dangu for ur serbis :DDDDD" and then move onto whatever meme movement (like the gays) makes them feel good and is socially popular. The VA isn't something that effects people by and large, and it has little feel-good value.

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>>28388014

>>28393237
That amusing anecdote also assumes that somebody who gets signed up for the restraining order will never go through mental health examination and instead the gubmint will just strap on their jackboots and start takin' gunz

>>28393255
>i know exactly how this situation that's never taken place and probably never will take place will play out

>>28388014
I will tell you right now, I'm what you would describe as crazy. Someone kicks in my door, warrant or not, they're getting shot at. This is my house. The ground beneath my feet is mine. Support this law if you want, but a lot of people are going to get needlessly hurt. Just my two cents, from the other side of the fence. There are much better ways to go about this.

>>28388014
They always did say /k/ was the easiest board to troll. I think y'all have been had.

>>28388014

I legitimately hate you to the very core of my being.

>>28393296
You're actually renting government land.

>>28388659
We /k/-Team now?
Dibs on Murdock!

>>28388044
>Refute

I doubt it. /k/ can't argue their way out of a bag

>>28388141
So you want to disenfranchise 99% of US citizens?

Are you Hillary?

>>28393319
That's just like... your opinion, man

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You know what this tells me?
We need to shun the libshits out of our own families.
I know, I know. For generations upon generations the Americans family has been the driving factor of everything we have done. The American family is dead. Men can be women. Women can be men. Cheating and divorce is commonplace and even encouraged in the media!

Now the government, after letting it get this bad in the last 30 years is finally pulling this shit to get us to turn against one another? Shun the liberal hippies in your family, cast the astray, and watch the whole country crash and burn.

>>28393319
>>28390062
>>28388591
>I'm going to pull shit out of my ass and string it together into half-coherent sentences and hope i can convince my fellow inbreds that i'm so profound

>>28388141
>hey guys, how about we only give guns to the people who've been meticulously trained to handle them
>FUCKING FASCIST HANDS OF MUH GATS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
every time

>>28388141
>>28393402

You either have natural born rights or you don't. How about you prove that your not a inbred sheep-pen raised NEET before you use your first amendment?

>>28387949
This can't be real. Someone post another source if you've found one. Once it's confirmed i'll post a picture of my 15 on facebook and link the proofs with the picture.

>>28393456
There's been like three threads on this but I'll scrape up some other sources for you anon

>>28393402
>meticulously trained
Fucking lol.
You know the top half of the bell curve go to school for STEM and Art, and not to become enforcement personnel? This suggests that only people who can afford extensive training, and have the time to do so, along with the members below the median who become officers. You literally want rich people and dumb ass mall cops to have guns. You are a fascist. Congratulations.

>>28393488
>officers should be able to possess firearms.
Dunno where that bit went

>>28393430
>You either have natural born rights or you don't

guess what shithead: you actually don't have rights to anything. the constitution and declaration of independence were written by hypocritical shithead slave owners.

the things you hold dear can and will be given and taken based on the greater good. and in this case, gun ownership NEEDS to be more restricted than it is.

>>28388129
>Blaming the victims for their shit, and taking their rights.

No, fuck off. If people have depression, fucking treat the causes of that and not the aftermath of a shooting. Special Ed teacher here, fuck you, fuck off, nothing worst than moronic cunts passing legislation depriving people of their rights because they know jack shit what they're talking about.

>>28393521
You NEED to stahp trolin. /k/ and /pol/ are easymode.

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>>28393521
You're from an Asian family, aren't you?

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>>28393521
Thought /pol/ice detected.

HEY GUYS SELF PRESERVATION ISN'T A RIGHT THE GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG

>>28393593
Not him, but a good chunk of Asians I know pack heat, and are pro gun as fuck.

Don't forget about the Koreans in LA

>>28393521
>You either have natural born rights or you don't

Actually, if you objectively look at this, rights are an abstract human construct. These men literally created their rights for both themselves and their future neighbors. So you actually do have the rights you're born into. It's more than that though. These men were prepared to and often did die in the interest of the protection of those rights. So in order for you to have rights, you must also be prepared to defend them. If you're not comfortable with someone else defending their rights as described by our ancestors, you are free to create your own bill of rights and live by those. You must, however, be ready to fight for those rights. While I have no personal issue with you giving up your own rights or even living by your own, I do take issue with you taking away someone else's rights. I'd guess that there are more people prepared to defend those rights you're trying to remove, than you are prepared to overcome. So git fukt.

>>28393629
>and they say might doesn't make right

>>28388139
>Not a fucking inch you gun-grabbing piece of shit.

Eight powerful, throbbing inches. Straight up your shitpipe. Relax and let it in, it'll hurt less. Get ready 'cuz I'm going in dry!

>>28393656
Help, the Government is raping muh freedoms!

>>28393476
I found them. I've never been more ashamed of my state, country, and people. Let them come.

>>28388094
There're so many normal people with depression and shit though.

Think of all of the combat vets, and other people who've seen shit. A lot of them end up on anti-depressants for some time.

I took anti-depressants for 2 years, and eventually stopped. I'm really happy to be alive now.

>>28388449
Arm the mentally ill now!

Guns are therapeutic as fuck. If anything I'm less likely to kill myself with a gun now that I own one. Too risky. I'll take a nice fall or an exit bag over a gun, any day. The only risk to this is alcohol and human error. Crazies best be drinking lightly.

>>28393372
Dude family doesn't mean shit anymore.

No one in my family even comes together anymore. We ALWAYS used to get together for Christmas and other big holidays; but when my great grandmother passed away from cancer it all ended. She was holding the entire family together.

Families are dead, man. Kudos to the people who still get together with each other.

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Okay guys. This was the straw that broke fucking camel's back. I'm leaving this shit fucking state. The only thing that was keeping me here was surfing. What are the laws in North and South Carolina like? I'm very seriously thinking about moving there soon in hopes of better gun laws and a coast. Fuck this bullshit man it hurts so bad to see this happen.

>>28393827
Come to Florida, /k/alifornian. Beaches everywhere and based gun laws abound. Only problem is finding a good range to shoot at.

>>28393823
when family is mostly full of retards, dumb bitches and assholes, i have no time for that shit anymore.

>>28388221
Except it's been objectively proven to be inferior to Communism. Which, in turn, has been shown to be unworkable for anything more sophisticated than a colony of cherrystone clams.

>>28387949
>>>/pol/
>>>/news/

And least these dog shit cancerous threads are actually getting pruned more often.

>>28394035
Fuck off. Gun control is weapon, the earth is round, and you're a faggot. That's just the facts.

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