Triple K mafia charges to be released at 1:30pm central

>>28040681

Why did they seize his computer?

>>28040681
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

HOLY SHIT THEY ANNOUNCED BAIL FOR HIM AT 500K

KICKSTARTER WHEN

250K for the other guys


>tfw k is going to get lynched to appease the dindu horde

>>28040725
Why the fuck do you think

>>28040725

Or his jackets, pants, and vest for that matter?

>>28040681
>tacticle vest

They sell those at kommando store, or were they commemorative from nugget fest?

>>28040740
source?

This whole ordeal has got to be the funniest thing I've followed on /k/ for a long time.

>>28040754
im getting it from twitter.

#4thprecinctshutdown

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/pol/ thread:
>>>/pol/57112046

Livestream:
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/show/live-wcco-video/

you would think K would be more excited for attention

I'm scared for them
The US government has a history of throwing people to the wolves to appease the libruls

OH SHIT
>OH SHIT
OH SHIT
>OH SHIT
OH SHIT


4chan TRIAL OF THE CENTURY

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


https://twitter.com/StribJany/status/671386830936236032

>>28040765
then post the twitter link faget

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>TFW THIS IS GOING TO BE BAD

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/k/ confirmed for DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!
>/k/ confirmed for DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!
/k/ confirmed for DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!
>/k/ confirmed for DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!
/k/ confirmed for DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!
>/k/ confirmed for DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!

THEY ANNOUNCED IT ON THE FUCKING STREAM

CHARGES GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED AT 6PM

Are these the guys from the video going around talking to protesters?

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>>28040813

Seeing "4chan" in an official court document is always a fucked up and weird and hilarious thing to me.

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>>28040875
>TFW PUBLIC LYNCHING OF OUR BROTHERS IS IMMINENT

>>28040886
>who is this gunman named 4chan?

>>28040886

4CHAN
WEBSITE
EMAIL
STRING

>>28040890
>>28040875
>>28040886
nothing about them being chased, or attacked, or acting in self defense, or being permitted to CC

>>28040878
>4chan
>4 people
>4 WCCO
>4th precinct

What does it mean?

So when's the trial?

>>28040886

THE FIRE RISES

can someone give me a TL:DR. Did the livestream guys shoot people or is it someone else? Are they from /k/ or /pol/?

>>28040890
secret domestic terrorist gathering

>>28040917
Yes, both.

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THEY EXPECT FOUR IN THE WRECKAGE BROTHERS

>>28040927

I assume it was in self defense. I saw on thee stream some people were threatening them to leave.

>>28040902
its a criminal complaint. their side of the story is not there.

This could potentially be bigger than zim zam.

ESPECIALLY if they try domestic terror

Cross your fingers

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>>28040681

>yfw being a dingus and defending yourself became domestic terrorism

>>28040935
I guess the video of witness' doesn't account for anything?

I mean all the witness' even implied it was self defense.

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AHHAHAGHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHA

"riot" charges


HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>28040917
3 autists troll Black lives matter Irl by baneposting and shouting get out of here stalker while doing the moonwalk in milsurp.

Negros do not take kindly to their sham riot for dem Jordan's being mocked

Next day a few guys dressed normal film nigs nogging, "peacefully protesting" by lighting fires and throwing bricks through Windows/at police.

Blm don't like whitey being all white near them as they protest against discrimination

Harass the autists

Autists try to leave

Are attacked physically


break contact and run away

Are cornered by the mob

BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
>sheeeeeeet intensifies
>din do nuffinz, it's whiteys fault for being there filming us committing criminal acts like evil white racists so we had to go worldstar nigga

Present day

>>28040952
That would be used in a defense.

We were seeing how far the goverment would go in regards to accusations.

If these 4 get some decent enough lawyers and some good forensic evidence....well the happening 2.0 might be amazing.

Didn't they shoot in self defense? Or did they fire randomly into the crowd like some faggots.

Were these dudes in the mn /k/ meetup videos that got taken down? I cant find them anymore.

>>28040952
Except the vid BlackPowderRanger posted before the first night they trolled can be used to prove they were there to escalate and incite an already tense situation. If the prosecution proves this (easy), they can be shown to have been active participants. Under MN law, this means the shoot was not self defense.

I give the shooter less than a 10% chance of getting off.

>>28040966

From the livestreams I saw, none of them engaged in any confrontation in from of the protesters, they were simply observers.

>>28040965
4 guys = a riot now?....

ummm...'kay then.

>>28040990
doesnt matter if they were there to incite. They were leaving PEACEFULLY when they were attacked.

they will get off scott free

>>28040990
They were filming more or less the entire time they were at the protest tough, right? If there's nothing in there that shows them being belligerent, does that discount the pre-protest video?

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>>28040890

>photos of a gathering of men
>the men are wearing camouflage clothing and holding guns
>several flags including a Confederate flag are visible


>mfw I am in several pictures from /k/ meetups with my face uncovered
>mfw I'm forever associated with a racist domestic terrorist group
>my fucking face when everyone on /k/ said not to go to meetups because of shit exactly like this, but I didn't listen

God damn it

Can anyone link me some references for later viewing?

I totally ignored this shit on the news.

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>>28040990
good point.
>being charged with meme-ing too hard

>>28041002
Doesn't matter. They were not unwilling participants, as they went there with the expressed, video documented purpose of trolling.

>>28041004
Nope. Intent and state of mind will both be very negative points for them, and those are big portions of determining whether the shoot was good in MN.

>>28041023
trolling isnt illegal.

memes are not illegal.

Attacking people for no reason is illegal.

They were leaving.

And were attacked without provication.

unless the laws have been changed and you can count memes as physical violence now.

They were acting in self defense.

hurting feelings does not give you the right to mob people.

they will get off 100% scott free if their lawyer is competent

>>28040917
Supposedly a couple of guys from /k/ and
/pol/ decide to go to the blm happening. They started doing video of the protesters and talking to them and it pissed them off.

Then a mob tried to attack them, they fled, got cornered, and one of them shot at the mob.

So far that's all I got from this...

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>>28040903
black helicopters inbound
I have the do/k/uments

>>28041006
It's too late now. You know what needs to be done.
Activate code 4

>>28041039
>hurting feelings does not give you the right to mob people

It does if you're a white cis male and they're PoC, womyn, or trans, at least in liberal states.

These guys are so fucked it's not even funny, they're going to write a bigger book to throw at them to appease SJW keks

>>28040878
>Nathan Gustavsson
That is the guy queerbait stole the trip from.

Top fucking kek

>>28041039
>video yourself underlining your motives for being there (trolling), including dropping racially charged words/phrases and flashing your carry piece
>keep returning, even though your vid was found by the protesters and you've been actively fingered as a dangerous white supremacist
>continue trolling protest
>get confronted
>have heated words
>get chased off
>turn and shoot

It's the first two things that are going to fuck them. It goes way beyond reasonable standards for innocent behavior and well into racially charged active participation in escalating the conflict. In MN, it will be a slam dunk for a conviction on the shooter, BlackPowderRanger. Especially since they lowballed the charges. Their burden is especially low when compared with, say, attempted murder.

Scarsella will serve hard time. At least 5 with parole in 2. He will also be a felon, and have no firearms rights.

>>28040993
Trying to incite a riot. This is important when they go there saying they're going to stir things up and cause commotion. They even meme'd make the fire rise.

And take that into account their 4chan postings using derogatory language towards blacks, seen with a confederate flag, and then they go to a black protest to stir things up...

They're idiots and have an orgy of evidence against them.

>>28041039
>>28041079
Oh, and let's not forget the supreme level of fucked when the contents of their internet histories and email accounts are presented in open court. Every ironic "race war" statement, every over the top bit of sarcasm. It'll all be read into record. Think about that for a minute.

>>28041079
>Scarsella will serve hard time. At least 5 with parole in 2. He will also be a felon, and have no firearms rights.

He'll just have to take a few tips from BlackPowderRanger then.

>>28040681

So you shoot some people in self defense and they fucking clean out your house?

What the fuck is this? Fuck this gay earth.

>>28041006
Seva here, that's why I took off my trip and never show up to your meets. I knew shit like this was going to happen...
Shame too, I really wanted to meet some of you.

>>28041079
it cant fuck them legally.

that the problem.

hurting feelings is not violence. And violence is needed to justify mob behavior in the first place.

if they were mobbed for no other reason than looking scary. They have every right to shoot these niggers where they stand.

sorry.

this is cut and dry and unless they stack the jury with dumb niggers with ADHD

they will get off.

>>28041091
this.

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>guy on /b/ posts pics of killing his wife a few years ago
>/tv/ crashes a plane into les bains with no survivors
>/r9k/ starts the beta uprising
>/k/ accidentally creates a race riot

I'm honestly impressed. No matter what happens, this is going to be hilarious

>>28041091
>prosecutor red in the face screaming "DINDU IS A DEROGATORY TERM FOR BLACK PEOPLE"

>>28041075
We haven't descended to kangaroo courts yet
>nigs nog
>da _____ be racis!
>massive media circus trial
>acquitted of all charges.jpg
>riot for the latest jordans
>someone dindu nuffin during aforementioned riot
>da _____ be racis!
Ad infinitum

Imagine the asshurt if/when 10 odd individuals from the "peaceful protest" and the shot assholes end up arrested for hate crime battery once there faces chimping get posted all over Fox news.

>>28040875
>>28040890

Which name is which tripfag?

>>28041092
i dont have to.

you have to understand what happened here.

They shot 5 people for what reason.

because they were being attacked.

it doesnt matter if they literally just got back from a klan meeting.

the evidence shows they defended themselves.


the only way they can lose this is if the DA chooses light charges like disturbing the peace or something. But even then , that doesnt adress the fact they shot somebody.

its going to be attempted murder.

thats the only way i can see this happening.

>>28041104
You really have no clue how your own legal system works, do you?

Jesus Christ. The vid from before the first night in and of itself is a legal incitement/aggravation to violence. The rest is just fucking gravy.

MN law is pretty clear, and it equates to "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". If they'd never gotten the retarded idea to poke and troll enraged protesters for almost a week, while publicly posting retarded racist shit, none of this would have happened. As far as MN law is concerned, this is more than enough to turn a self-defense case on its head.

>>28041098
Chicago ;^)

>>28041023
>trolling.

trolling is protected by the first amendment. If niggers and shitty prosecutors don't like it, too goddamn bad.

Protesting a protest is illegal?

>>28041075
but what if one of them is gay?
/k/ is pretty faggy

>>28041129
You have no clue how MN self defense law works. None whatsoever. You're running on "the way it should be" and "if the world wuz fair".

It's time to go outside and meet the real world.

>>28040903
>4U
CIA/Illuminarti confirmed

>>28041091
>>28041092
Except you forgot that said messages were NOT mentioned at the BLM protest itself and that they previously attended without any conflict in the past.

The first video of them dancing and making memes is not illegal, just poor taste.

I reckon assault charges beat in the future with good lawyer and some injuries to indicate aelf defense and maybe the riot charges if they emphasize no prior criminal record AND peaceful intentions via their disengagement several times.

But they also need to move the trial out of the city.

>>28041129
>attempted murder.

It's already been announced as five counts of assault plus a riot charge for the shooter. Lower burden of proof, the case is a slam dunk. The DA will eat him for breakfast.

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>>28041092
>Oh, and let's not forget the supreme level of fucked when the contents of their internet histories and email accounts are presented in open court. Every ironic "race war" statement, every over the top bit of sarcasm. It'll all be read into record. Think about that for a minute.

Youch, better them than me. I can't imagine seeing some of the vitriolic shit I've posted both here and on /pol/ being read aloud in a courtroom and associated with my name. FUCK that...

I'm going to hold my tongue on the issue until it's over. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not going to pretend I have any idea what I'm talking about.

From a personal standpoint, however, I feel like they were idiots for attending the protest, but I also feel like the shooting was 100% justified from what I know. I don't know if it was legally justified, and am not going to pretend like I'm an authority on the matter.

I hope they all get off the hook. They played a stupid game insofar that they attended a protest populated almost entirely with angry niggers. Their prize should not be prison time and the loss of their gun rights.

>>28041139
No. It is not. Just as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is not. If your free speech is intended to cause imminent violent confrontation or panic, it is at the least incitement to riot.

>>28041131
They didn't poke and piss off everyone when they were THERE.

They also tried to leave peacefully.

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>>28041131
no its not. Its a video from the night before talking shit. It would be valid evidence if they showed up and started waving their guns around talking about race war. That DIDNT happen

they didnt incite violence. They danced around like autistic people spouting memes. And black people irrationally chased them like tribe monkeys because these autistic children were encroaching on their SERIOUS PROTEST.

They then decided to LEAVE.

and when they left. Its called DE-ESCALATION

When this happens. All "incitement" charges that could be made legally possible, disappear in a fucking cloud of smoke.

This circles around to HURT FEELINGS.

they left and the feelings of these niggers were so HURT they decided to attack them while they were leaving.

they have no case.

>>28041150
>peaceful intentions
This might have worked without the vid before the first night and the emails. Now? Fucked.

So Saiga sold them out?

>>28041173
Sure. That's the case defense will in part try to make, but with less retardation and an actual knowledge of the law.

But they will lose. Those boys completely buried themselves under an orgy of evidence going to intent to incite, and all because they just had to be attention whoring man children for their interwebs autist "friends".

>>28041200
>So Saiga sold them out?
pretty much. also Saiga confirmed for POG too scared to go on this operation.

>>28041167

>what are fire alarms

that argument is fucking retarded. stop being a nigger sympathizer

>>28041207
>Saiga confirmed for POG too scared to go on this operation
Or he was smart enough to know after the first night that going back was a stupid idea.

>>28041173
>they left and the feelings of these niggers were so HURT they decided to attack them while they were leaving.

They still went to a peaceful protest armed with a previous video showing intent to start shit up and a huge history log with emails calling blacks derogatory things. That's like covering yourself in raw steak, walking into the woods, and then getting upset you have defend yourself from wolves and bears.

>>28041179
>multiple vids of nigs admitting to assaulting white people for wearing a scarf in below freezing weather
>vid of two nogs "removing" mugged anon
>the next night nogs mob 4 anons and start assaulting them
>not a single report of niggers assaulting the people throwing molotovs

>>28041179
no.

they left the area.

its called de-escalation.

When you leave the area like this. Any "incitement" goes out the window.

sorry. but you dont understand how the law works.

hurt feelings is not a valid reason to attack people.

but getting assaulted by a mob of people IS a valid reason to fucking unload on them with a gun.

>>28040681
What a couple of fucking idiots. I mean seriously.

I'm not saying they weren't justified in defending themselves, but they were fucking retarded for going to a blm protest and making videos spouting /pol/ maymays. I don't think they even had any ill intent, they wanted to make some funny ebin trole videos, which makes them retarded.

>>28041179
>>28041167
>if you show up to a westborough Baptist church protest dressed like a stormtrooper holding a sign that says "I'm fucking the big bearish one after the protest" then you've forfeited your right to resist a violent assault upon your person since you were "inciting" them.

Yeah go fuck yourself.

This is fucking bull shit. All they need is a good lawyer and they're free and the chimps will chimp again. We should start a go fund me for the bail. /k/ and 4chan making history again fellas.

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>>28041006
Do not worry anon. The government already has your name and address and knows about everything you post.

I'm sure everyone who has ever posted on this board is on a watchlist, going to a /k/ meet changes nothing.

>>28041209
>nigger sympathizer
>actually understand how the legal system works and has a rational read on the charges from a lawyer's standpoint

Pick one. Frankly I don't give a fuck what you think. You sound just about dumb enough to be sitting in Scarsella's shoes soon enough.

>>28041214
This

>>28041233
Yeah we should get a gofundme set up or something. As stupid as they were being by even going there in the first place, they don't deserve to be in jail.

>>28041167
>yelling "fire" in a crowded theater
Holy shit are you really using that fucking argument? Yes, yelling fire in a crowded theatre is protected free speech. Stop being stupid.

>>28041167
Are the dindus getting charged too than? They could have provoked the defendants into a verbal shouting match?

Whitey went to protest the protest. Not the idea behind it, but the fact that the mob was vandalizing a city which he felt was not the proper way to seek recourse.

The ski masks, they wore those to defend their identity. They were worried that if pictures were taken of them they would be classed as racists, went they went to protest the senseless acts of vandalism.

When a previously violent crowd engages with another, then escalates the confrontation by moving towards the other crowd in a different manner, they should be at fault . Not only that, but the defendants also tried to deescalate by leaving but they were persued by the mob and cornered, which led to the last choice the defendants had left, which was to defend themselves from a larger, violent crowd.

That's how I'd spin it

>>28041229
Welcome to MN law.

It would behoove all of us to actually fucking learn the self defense laws in our own states before popping off.

>>28041218
>they still went to a protest armed

irrelevant

>with intent to start shit

Which they objectively didnt do. At all. in fact. The confrentation happened when they left A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE FUCKING PROTEST. they didnt incite anything. they were leaving and chimps decided to show who runs the block and they got blown the fuck away.

>emails of RACIST THINGS

irrelevant unless these things were acted upon. Which they were not.
You dont understand the law. So stop pretending you do

>>28041172
No you see they triggered a hunting instinct in the noggins by running away.. Just like you should not run away from a bear. That is not leaving peacefully, that is provocation.

>>28041254
>Which they objectively didnt do.
Dipshit thought it would be funny to post a video of him holding a gun on their way to the protest. Tell me how easy it's going to be to prove they didn't intend to incite shit in court.

Common sense dictates that they were all stupid for being there. Common sense also dictates that they legitimately feared for their lives when they were chases a full block from the protest by an angry mob that started assaulting them.

However, court cases aren't dictated by common sense.

>>28041218
>blaming the person for being attacked by wolves
>not blaming the wolves for being fucking animals and attacking you for the color of your jerky coat
You don't lose the legal right to protect yourself from felony hate crime aggravated assault AND battery because you refuse to remove your scarf in the Chicago winter, especially after retreating and being cornered by rioters.

Holy fuck. You are all going to feel like fucking morons when the DA drains this case, nothing but net.

He clearly undercharged them to be absolutely sure to get all four convictions. In MN, in this case? He can stand up in court and conduct a cricket symphony with his dick and meet his burden.

Those boys are going to prison. Well, the shooter definitely is. The others might get reduced sentencing for first time offenses, depending on their records.

>>28041273
>Dipshit thought it would be funny to post a video of him holding a gun on their way to the protest
Wasn't that Saiga Marine who did that? He wasn't even at the shooting, so how does that impact those who were?

I'm not keeping up with this case, so I really don't know.

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>>28040875
>search and recovery mission
>mfw this comment was made about lolis in need of rescue

>>28041254
>irrelevant unless these things were acted upon. Which they were not.

>Going to a black protest shooting a bunch of blacks with an internet history of hating blacks and a video previously showing you holding a gun saying you were going to start shit

Sure thing.

>>28041274
>However, court cases aren't dictated by common sense.
Nope. This one will be dictated by MN law, which BPR clearly didn't bother to familiarize himself with before he shot some people.

>>28041245
Um, what? I'm pretty sure it's definitely not protected speech.

>>28040725
To plant evidence on it so they can convict him of something.

>>28041285
The one holding the 1911 in the vid and doing most of the talking is blackpowderranger. The same one who was the shooter a few nights later. The gun displayed was the same calibre as the shots fired. Pretty sure it will be the same weapon.

>>28041288
>i literally eat globs of shit and have no understanding of legal context

just stop while you are ahead cupcake

>>28041250
Welcome to my retarded understanding of duty to retreat
They did and were literally cornered and surrounded and physically attacked for the second time

Replace "peaceful protesters" protesting descrimination by attacking the 4 white people for being near them with the westborough Baptist church doing the exact same thing and suddenly the PC dialogue changes

>>28041297
>>28041247

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Fucking trip fags. lol. Enjoy turning over your guns Saiga and others... and enjoy not being able to own guns again

>>28041273
because he didnt incite anything.

they were leaving and were attacked a block away from the protest

>>28041250
http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_25898652/st-paul-man-who-shot-teen-at-store
you should learn it
now back to reddit faggot

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>>28041247
>yelling fire in a crowded theatre is protected free speech
>an example that a supreme court judge (one of the faggots who decides these things) used to describe what was NOT protected free speech
Pick two.

>>28041273
Apparently taking a picture with a gun is now illegal.

Welcome to liberal /k/

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>>28041286
>Cross examination: That word you just said in the video. Loli. Can you define that?

>>28041315
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater

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>>28041317
lol no shit. tripfags btfo

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>>28041051
>mfw I haven't taken the dokument off my desktop
Let them come, my dildos are ready

>>28041173

The prosecutors are just trying to say they went there to incite a riot, they incited a riot, then they tried to claim self-defense after they got the reaction they were looking for. They're not being charges for the assault with a deadly weapon. I don't think the prosecutors are trying to say the shooting wasn't in self-defense.

Basically: you know how niggers are, you know how you have to tiptoe around them. You know being White and not acknowledging your privilege in their presence, having nice shit or holding a contrary opinion enraged them. So why'd you do it? You knew what would happen.

>>28041312
>I will not explain the legal context but just throw shit at everyone and call them wrong

Thanks for that.

>>28041167
>Just as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is not.
Do any of you retards know where this phrase came from? The court case had to do with a guy who was protesting WW1 by encouraging people to dodge the draft. Stop saying this shit if you dont realize how retarded it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

>>28041346
I hate tripfags.

>>28041314
In MN there is not only a duty to retreat BUT ALSO a duty to be an unwilling participant. They pass the first, flagrantly fail the second.

>>28041354
no they didnt incite a riot

because a riot didnt happen.

>>28040940
Only if you are white.

>>28041327
I agree they weren't. They were just being fucking stupid by going there.

You and I might feel that way, but tell me how you're going to fight that in court.

>>28041342
>Apparently taking a picture with a gun is now illegal.
I never said it wasn't. Prove to jury that the DA is going to try to convince he was inciting shit.
I've said they were justified in defending themselves, but who gives a shit about how we feel, it's up to 12 jurors now unless he takes a plea.

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Here is what black powder ranger was charged with , along with assault.


>Riot second degree.When three or more persons assembled disturb the public peace by an intentional act or threat of unlawful force or violence to person or property, each participant who is armed with a dangerous weapon or knows that any other participant is armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of riot second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both.


TFW they get a fucking 10,000 dollar fine.

and then niggers burn down the city in a chimpout

>>28041365
a bunch of niggers telling everyone to "put dat foam mup" so they can beat you to death with no witnesses is inciting a riot

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/show/live-wcco-video/

LIVE NOW

>>28041365

What's the legal definition of a riot? In Texas it's like 7 or more people fighting or whatever. 4 of /k/, at least 5 nogs.

Ok since this argument is just going to circle around until someone blows up over the same points for the sake of post counts can the peanut gallery and armchair lawyers please shut up?

>>28041370
the way they always fight it.

the way zim zam got off.

explaining step by step to everybody on the jury that despite being racist spergs. Legally they dindu nuffin

>>28040875
>>28040890


SEE HOW THIS SHIT GITS SPUN?

THIS IS WHY YOU FAGS NEED TO TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN YOURSELVES TO NOT PANIC AND CALL AFUCKING LAWYER FIRST

CALL A LAWYER FIRST
CALL A LAWYER FIRST

DO NOT ADMIT TO ANYTHING

DO NOT TRY AND DEFEND YOUR POSITION TO THE POLICE

DO NOT SPEAK TO THE POLICE


CALL A FUCKING LAWYER FIRST

>>28041361
>The First Amendment holding in Schenck was later overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot). The test in Brandenburg is the current High Court jurisprudence on the ability of government to proscribe speech after that fact.

This is directly applicable in this case, RE: the vid before the first night combined with subsequent actions. It's also an upheld precedent for the last 50 years.

Those boys are fucked.

>>28041343
>The state calls the defendant's waifu to the stand
>Objection! Your honor this is blatant violation of spousal privilege.
>Sustained, by the state can call the defendant's raifu to the stand

What dark times to live

>>28041344
So in the case it incites imminent unlawful action shouting fire in a crowded theatre is NOT protected speech.

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2nd degree felony.

5 counts against him.

count of riot in second degree for each

CONFIRMED FOR SICK PEOPLE


http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/show/live-wcco-video/

DISCUSSING /k/ RIGHT NOW!

>>28040681
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>>28041389
...well that was supposed to say "blows up the sun"... but whatever.

>>28041385
hennepin county officially keksville

>>28040965
They need to get good lawyers and sue the police and the city for millions.

>>28041390
Sure if you go through it, but as other anon's have mentioned that MN law is different. You have to think now about how the DA is going to present a case based on the evidence to convict him.

>>28041393
>THIS IS WHY YOU FAGS NEED TO TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN YOURSELVES TO NOT PANIC AND CALL AFUCKING LAWYER FIRST
Their problem was the first thing the shooter did was call a cop buddy from high school who immediately sold him out.

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>>28041385
>the defendant's own video shows that these are sick people
sides in orbit

>>28041386
In MN it's 3 (maybe 4) or more people.

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>>28041006
>tfw asian
>tfw will be seen as a misguided autistic retard instead of a white supremacist

>>28041250
Can you cite the relevant laws in Minnesota regarding incitement?

Soooo.. there's allegedly more than one confession according to the news conference?

hard to tell because it the feed keeps crashing.

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>>28041364
>leave the protest
>followed and confronted at a back alley
>run white boi run.jpg
>Get cornered and blocked in
>physically attacked the second time
The first "incident" of saigafaggot with his 1911 is unrelated and a seperate instance. Being at the protest and leaving is another instance. Being chased and cornered is another instance. The last one is all that matters in the eye of the law.

>inb4 no bu...
So you think Minnesota allows revenge attacks? Because that is what you're saying these fine pillars of the community turning their lives around were able to do because a different white person trolled them on a different day and because they weren't satisfied with assaulting these autists earlier that evening.

It doesn't go both ways. You don't lose your right to self defense because you were in an arguement with your attacker last week.

fuck...

this is the death of 4chan.

>>28040681

no hate crime... but 2nd felony assault?

>>28041439
That was BlackPowderRanger and his 1911. Saiga was sitting to the left. Likely the same weapon used in the shooting. Does not look good.

>>28041439
dont argue with a closet SJW

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/show/live-wcco-video/
>http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/show/live-wcco-video/
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/show/live-wcco-video/
>http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/show/live-wcco-video/

>>28041447
If the college shooting linked to /r9k/ wasn't the death of 4chan, what makes you think an arguably justifiable defensive shooting with no deaths will be?

If they had immediately called the police after the altercation with the protesters, they wouldn't be in this mess.

Hopefully they can post bail soon and win the trial.

>>28041039
What don't you understand about white=racist criminal in obamas America?

This is not an exaggeration, you are guilty no matter what, even if a judge laughs it out of court you are forever guilty.

>>28041448
He just addressed that on the livestream about it
Something about it not adding anything to the eventual punishment.

>>28041439
>You don't lose your right to self defense because you were in an arguement with your attacker last week.
You do in MN if you show up every day of that week to harass him. Which publicly making racist comments, distributing them widely and then showing up to stare at him from across the street would easily be construed as.

>>28041383
>Riot second degree.When three or more persons assembled disturb the public peace by an intentional act or threat of unlawful force or violence to person or property, each participant who is armed with a dangerous weapon or knows that any other participant is armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of riot second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both.
Sooooo.... the next time we make fun of niggers in RL and not on the Internet, we should go in pairs. Okay. Important safety tip.

/scribbles note

>>28041455
Agreed. I don't understand why the fuck they wouldn't call the police. If I was in their situation, I'd call the police immediately after I left the area, tell them what happened, and ask to come to the police station for both your protection and to make official statements.

>attempted murder
who is this nigger

HOBBITS AND WIZARDS AND SHIT

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>>28040875

>>28041455
they did exactly that.
BPR did anyway, the other 3 turned themselves in to a police station as well.

>>28041458
>lawyer admitting he has no case
>>28041463
>harrassing

>>28041454
becuase the prosecutor said they are looking at charging others, directly referencing the 4chan threads.

>>28040681

cowboy blackguy is total gold

>>28041424
Is there a better time to be an intogunz minority? i feel like i have a super power.

>>28040882
this. are these the same guys? i have no idea what is going on lol

Ummm... what's up with cowboy?

>>28041488
He's read a couple of lawbooks in his time.
The only downside is that no /k/unts showed up for some more IRL baneposting

>>28041488
>attempted murder
>take my word though, I'm an ex con

>>28041491
>"i'm a con myself"
>uhhhhhhhh

>>28041490
My only regret is that I'm not black so I could fuck with people even more.

Thank god they fixed the stereo at the end of the conference.

>>28041493
see
>>28040966

>>28041482
Big deal. It's not the first time 4chan has been in the public spotlight in a negative way.

4chan is safe. /k/ is safe. I'd even bet that /pol/ is safe. Who are they going to charge that will directly impact 4chan, Hiroshimoot?

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>>28041482
Oh this is going to be wonderful. We'll be watching livestreams of the trial -- on /pol/, unfortunately -- and waiting with our ears pricked for any mention of our now-infamous Indonesian Etch-A-Sketch forum.

This is possibly the best chance we will ever have to troll the rest of the world. This will be better than Zimmerman.

>>28041476
When did they call the police? From my understanding, the guy who actually shot was arrested by swat in his home a few days later.
If he called the police the night of the self-defense shooting and they cleared him of any wrong doing, they wouldn't arrest him with swat.

This fucking black cowboy isnt even the one talking about the charges brought.. who the fuck is this niggerboy

>>28041496
>do you think it was their plan to get caught?
>*get tazed

are they really going to interview the cowboy?

did that last question ask about the BLM protesters breaking shit getting charged with anything? couldn't hear the questions for shit.

>>28041503
>>28041502
To be fair, a lot of cons who aren't completely retarded know a thing or two about how law works.
>>28041521
Probably an activist, place is is a dead zone now with the recent PP shooting.

>>28041520
He didn't call the police. He called a friend who was a cop who then called the police. Swat did arrest him in his home.

>>28041546
This cop... is he a tripfag on this board?

>>28041526
>"And, uh, the defendants are big guys-"
>"FOR U."
I swear, the trial will be like primetime

>>28041546
Who was arrested by swat then?

All of you 4chan people are sick bigots. This guy will get whats coming to him in court.

You all need help

>>28041555
Not that I know of.

>>28041555
Not that we know of.

>>28041561
*NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER*

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>>28040681
THIS IS THE GREATEST!
And there were faggots saying the charges would be dropped and they'd be released!

>>28041560
The guy who did the shooting.

The guy's friend (the cop) is the one who informed the police who the shooter was, where he lived, etc.

>>28041570
Okay, which goddam trip are we talking about? I'm getting confused. We need our own rap sheet, timeline, etc. Or at least I do.

>>28041561
Least we aren't fat, nigger dick sucking, tumblerinas.

>>28041561
All of you BLM people are dindu muffins. Those thugs who assaulted those kommando got what was coming to them.

You all need some jobs.

>>28040990
Where in MN law is that the case? I can only find the following statutes on self-defense:

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609&view=chapter#stat.609.065

>Except as otherwise provided in subdivision 2, reasonable force may be used upon or toward the person of another without the other's consent when the following circumstances exist or the actor reasonably believes them to exist:

>(3) when used by any person in resisting or aiding another to resist an offense against the person; or

I can't find anything about active participation.

>>28041581
>>28041585
ok guys let's leave that shit to /pol/

allow us to discuss the current event without spewing shit.

>>28041570
Well, he should have called 911 immediately following the attack and not his friend who is a cop.
The fact that he called his friend makes him look guilty and trying to use connections to get away with a crime.

Not saying he is guilty but he fucked up.

>>28041595
>not including the original "bigots" post
Fuck off.

>>28041595
um no.
non whites voting is the reason we will lose the second amendment in the next 50 years

hang from a tree please

>>28041575
The guy who was with Saiga the first night. I forget his name.

>>28041595
Why would you expect any less from a hategroup collaboration website?

>>28041614
That was BPR

We need a gofundme

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>>28041482

'One charge of inciting genocide by means of electronic medium and another of conspiracy to invade sovereign territory contrary to sec.71 of the UN charter of Human Rights and Global Stability"

If a bunch of nigs zerg rushed you what would you have done?

>>28041595
I wasn't even being pol, I was just make making light of the way that anon b8ed.

You better not call me that again or I'll show up to where you work and dance and take video of you, only to shoot you after you assault me.

>>28041605
>Not saying he is guilty but he fucked up.
Yeah, no disagreement here. I think that's the general consensus on /k/.

I'm glad the niggers in Cleveland are incredibly lazy so I don't have to deal with BLM protest. A 12 year old kid got shot dead last year and nothing happened at all short of a few (small) protests.

>>28040725

To fuck with his life.

My dad had a business and the police seized his computers for literally no reason.

The police know damn well where you live but if you have a job they will wait until you clock in at work, so that you get fired.

They will wait until you get in your car so they can tow your car and get you with other charges.


Then they wonder why people hate them...

There are two kinds of police forces. The police force they hire to be the face of the organization, for the community to see.. and the real police force that is no better than the mafia and always more criminal than the people they arrest.

Read the gospel... why do you think Jesus stood up for a prostitute? The Pharisees were probably hiring prostitutes in private then stoning them in public.

It's corrupt and fake as fuck.

The police operate on theft and intimidation. I feel bad for the good cops that are being used and still getting hate.

>>28041581
...you know that fat part is a projection

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OFFICIAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAY BY PLAY

>saigamarine and blackpowderranger go to protest to livestream for /pol/
>get media attention
>blackpowderranger, arcticfox, and two other /k/ anons go to protest
>are confronted by protesters
>blackpowderranger shoots 5 protesters and /k/ flees the scene
>blackpowderranger then calls an old high school classmate who is also a cop to confess that he shot 5 people
>cop classmate calls Minneapolis PD, who have Bloomington PD raid blackpowderranger
>saigamarine arrested and released
>arcticfox and 2 other /k/ anons turn themselves in
>blackpowderranger charged with 2nd degree riot and 5 counts of 2nd degree assault with bail set at half a million dollarydoos
>arcticfox and two other anons charged with 2nd degree assault with bail set at a quarter of a million dollarydoos

saigamarine officially luckiest tripfag on earth

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>>28040890
They're gonna get assraped by the prosecutor

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>>28041614
Okay, thanks.

>>28041615
This. There are going to be curious Internet wanderers and hyped-up BLM members and Millenial SJW's wandering through here for the next week or so, and again after the trial starts. We ought to do everything in our power to permanently warp their fragile little minds.

>>28041644
Thank you.

>>28041644
>>arcticfox and two other anons charged with 2nd degree riot with bail set at a quarter of a million dollarydoos
fixed

>>28041644
When I first saw that picture I thought it was from some ISIS clip.

>>28041657
Anybody know if that sort of mindbendingly hueg sum is customary when setting bail for someone inciting to riot? It would surprise me if it were. It would also surprise me if it weren't a sop to the nignog/SJW constituency. But I remain willing to be surprised.

>>28040903
4th Reich

>>28041644
I get the high bail for BPR, but the other 3 did nothing but troll a protest as far as I can tell. Even your average /k/ poster isn't stupid enough to pose a flight risk.

>>28041594
Here's the best layman's explanation I could find. It's case law in MN, based on the Boyce case in MN that went to their supreme court.

https://books.google.com/books?id=2UNCAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=minnesota+reluctant+participant&source=bl&ots=Rg1diceZP9&sig=GiVvD49Sdhk7came9KBZkVF6aGQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnmung8bjJAhWEyj4KHaOECMEQ6AEIKjAC#v=onepage&q=minnesota%20reluctant%20participant&f=false

>>28040875

God damn, saiga just rolled over and snitched on all of them!

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>>28040681
>MUH 45 STRONK MMAYMAY
maybe this meme can die now since no one died...

>>28041671
>tripfag so sheltered he doesn't know how bail works
It's supposed to be large and intimidating so you don't fucking run, you retard.

>>28041200
>So Saiga sold them out?
How the fuck is he not in jail and being charged? Something very wrong about that. Anyone else thinks is funny that one of the boards biggest attention whores and the guy who started all this leeeguun bullshit with a fucking live stream on /pol/ of all places has gone silent? I wonder just how descriptive he was telling the police about how he tried to talk everyone out of going back that night.
>>28041218
>They still went to a peaceful protest armed with a previous video showing intent to start shit up and a huge history log with emails calling blacks derogatory things. That's like covering yourself in raw steak, walking into the woods, and then getting upset you have defend yourself from wolves and bears.
This is why they are all going to jail and everyone in their immediate circle of friends is now on the watchlists that matter. They will have all of their words and actions closely watched. Prepare your collective ani MNfags.
The "peaceful protesters" used firebombs and the media doesn't call them rioters. The game is stacked against Americans who want these marxist socialists stopped. These America hating "protesters" who commit so many acts of violence and intimidation and are openly funded by George Soros, the guy who spent 33 million dollars keeping the Ferguson fires stoked and many more millions of $$$ to feed the largest camps of occutards three times a day should be treated like the treasonous criminals they are, but our leftist media will never report the violence behind it all.

These idiots brought this on themselves but they are bringing it on us as well. It's only a matter of time now. They fashioned the noose that will silence us all.


Men it's been good to know you.

>>28041039
>trolling isnt illegal

yeah, you're 100% right.

but it sure makes you LOOK like the badguy in court.

just remember that, assholes

God damn it guys.

I always knew people here were autistic, but to get this much negative attention on a national level? What the actual fuck?

4chan won't go down from this, but its certainly another nail in its coffin.

>>28041009
This

I've been busy lately and didn't know this had turned into such a big deal.

>tfw my propaganda campaign worked

feels great man.

>>28041699

>yfw saiga is actually cia

>>28041699
are you an actual nogunz?

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>>28041713
>yfw saiga is jew

>>28041701
>reasons I barely lurk regular chan anymore

>>28041418
>"Yea I can trust this cop"
Stupid enough to fucking deserve this shit

>>28041699
>How the fuck is he not in jail and being charged?
Because he wasn't there.

>>28041724
All the moronic /pol/ crossposters? Yeah.

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So what agencies are going to send undercover officers to Nuggetfest now?

>>28041722

from what ive heard hes not circumsiced

>>28040681
Good. Those tripfags deserve every one of those charges.

>>28041463
If that were the case there would be a whole lot of people shooting their managers in MN

>>28041741
>from what I've heard
anon...

>>28041700
To hell with this he said/she said/they said bullshit. Any kind of public gathering I ever attend for the rest of my life where there might be any kind of violency shit, I'm wearing a headcam and filming the entire time.

And so help me Hannah, I will put it up on Liveleak BEFORE calling the cops.

>>28041594
It's the duty to be the non-aggressor, both in the immediate tactical situation and the overall confrontation. It's taught in every MN concealed carry class, and features in just about every MN carry book.

>>28041713
He's a liberal planted here to obstruct and destabilize gun rights and gun advocates. They let him go because his work isn't done.

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OFFICIAL DRAMATIS PERSONAE

J.S. - saigamarine
Scarsella - blackpowderranger
Nathan - arcticfox
other two - anons

>>28041570

Can't blame the cop. He could lose his job. Don't fucking call me on my main line if you're in deep shit. I got a burner phone for shit like this, set up in some homeless dude's name.

>>28041732
>implying I care about that

>>28041690
>It is a general rule that the legal excuse of self-defense is available only to those who act honestly and in good faith. The rule requires (1) the absence of aggression or provocation on the part of the slayer; (2) the actual and honest belief of the slayer that he was in imminent danger of death, great bodily harm, or some felony and it was necessary to take the action he did; (3) the existence of reasonable grounds for such belief; and (4) the duty of the slayer to retreat or avoid the danger if reasonably possible. 9 Dunnell, Dig. (3 ed.) § 4245; 40 C.J.S., Homicide, §§ 122 and 126; 41 C.J.S., Homicide, § 395, p. 229.

Based on their actions on that night, I did not see evidence of aggression or provocation. Provocation is a specific term, and relates to an immediate act, not something that happened several days ago. Just standing around and refusing to remove their face coverings would not constitute provocation.

Another important case:

>MN Supreme Court wrote:
[t]he law does not permit or justify one who intends to commit an assault upon another to design in advance his own defense by instigating a quarrel or a combat with a view thereby to create a situation wherein the infliction of the intended injury will appear to have been done in self-defense. State v. Love, 285 Minn. 444, 451, 173 N.W.2d 423, 427 (1970) (quoting trial court’s instructions).

Note the key example:

>Nevertheless, if an aggressor withdraws from the conflict and communicates that withdrawal, expressly or impliedly, the right to claim self-defense is restored. Bellcourt v. State,390 N.W.2d 269, 272 (Minn.1986).

They retreated, so even if provocation initially existed, their right to self-defense was restored by their repeated attempts to escape.

>>28041754
This. Basically in MN, and in many duty to retreat states, there is a legal burden on determining a self defense shoot to prove that you weren't running around looking for a fight.

>>28041759

im still saying hes working for the cia or nsa

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fund raiser when ????

>>28041761
>thinking like a criminal, planning ahead

>>28041771
>thinking any other chan is safe from this
All it takes is one retard and then the servers take a broadside of newfags and it's sunk for a good while. That's if the owners don't get frustrated and leave.

>>28041760
no need for any of that, let the prosecution figure out which one posted which pepe.

never did like arctic fox though.

>>28041790
Hey man, gotta do what you gotta do

>>28041790

Pretty much, but it ain't coming back to me.

>>28041317
>tripfags get their guns taken away and are unable to circlejerk on /k/ anymore

This is a good thing. A very good thing...

>>28041754
See my post here >>28041777 on legal clarifications. Their immediate actions at the protest did not constitute aggression, and their withdrawal allowed for the restoration of a self-defense claim (even if there was aggression).

>where the defendant is the original aggressor in an incident giving rise to his self-defense claim, an instruction on self-defense will be available to him only if he actually and in good faith withdraws from the conflict and communicates that withdrawal, expressly or impliedly, to his intended victim.

>>28041777
This. Prosecution overcharged expecting them to turn and cut deals. Fully expect them all to walk.

>>28041801
how so? wouldn't it just be like making more australians?

>>28041777
Oh shiggity, if what this anon says is right shit is going to burn.

yfw /pol/ is the new stormfront for the press
http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/inside-pol-4chans-racist-heart.html

>>28041780

this

he always seemed a bit too clean cut. but just enough scruff..

>>28041777
>Based on their actions on that night,
It's not just their overt actions. If prosecution can prove that their ongoing presence there was the result of an agenda of incitement (which trolling will be considered), the DA will meet the burden for showing them as spoiling for a fight. The vid that BPR posted before his first visit will be enough for this. His emails will be icing on the cake.

>They retreated
Not initially, and not until the conflict had become violent. Furthermore, if it is proven that he turned and shot before all avenues of retreat were exhausted, self defense is void. The prosecution can argue that the "retreat" was a tactical withdrawal to a more constrictive place (alleyway) to help the shooter overcome the numbers advantage and engage them on a single axis rather than being surrounded 180 degrees. This tactical thinking narrative can be supported by the shooter's wearing of body armor and his emails.

Are these those faggots that were in that video dancing around and shit?
Fuck those faggots, they can't dance for shit.

>>28041777
Trips = Truth

Is there video anywhere of them leaving/being threatened that can be accessed now?

>>28041801
>circlejerk on /k/ anymore
theyll still be able to just like the other 80% of this board that is noguns

But at least they wont tripfag...at least their original name

>>28040681
Gofundme dot com slash fvcn3c2k
What else should I write

>>28041842
Do they videos of blacks telling what they did / happened count as evidence?

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>>28041821
>/pol/ is the new stormfront for the press
>its a bunch of jews, slavs, turks and poo in loos shitposting nonstop

NO CASUAL RACISTS

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-university-of-chicago-gun-threat-met-20151130-story.html#nt=outfit

>>28041859
Well I meant if they were streaming, is that video out there? Or was there any media that got any of what actually happened? I admit I am totally out of the loop on this one.

>>28041863
>implying that wasn't what storm front was

>>28041827
you dont know what you are talking about at all buddy.

none of the things you just said has been presented as actual evidence.

based on interviews they DID exhaust all methods of retreat. and were leaving when they were attacked by a mob

>>28041857
change 'did not do anything illegal" to dindu nuthin.

I have to think of a cool trip to use now.

We tripfags must replenish our ranks.

>>28041827
The problem with your argument is twofold. The first point has to do with video evidence of what they were doing during the night. The evidence of that night alone shows that they were not provoking anyone. If anything, the BLM protesters were inciting violence by their actions.

The second point is that the second video, combined with BLM witness reports after the shooting shows that they had exhausted all avenues attempting to escape from the agitated group. They were trapped and could no longer retreat.

A prosecutor could try your "tactical withdrawal" argument, but I honestly don't see it working. It's a bad argument and one that can be easily deflected by the defense showing the location and also the video from that night.

But even if it was a tactical withdrawal, the protesters should not have followed them. The conflict was stopped by the three men retreating (for whatever reason). Following them and committing violence upon them was an aggressive act.

>>28041899
>the case for the defense is the only case which will be presented in court

ok anon.

>>28040681
can someone link me the video of these dudes being chased and the vids of the protesters explaining how they assaulted them?

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WTF is wrong with the U.S. justice system

>>the 4
Right to freedom of speech
Right to peaceably assemble
Right to bear arms
Right to defend ones life

>>BLM
Right to peacebly assemble
Right to freedom of speech
no right to not be offended by other opinions
no right to stop assembly / remove people on public property especially if you disagree with their opinions
no right to attack people

Regardless of how much of an arsehole someone is, you cant take away their rights.

How the fuck is this still going on?

>>28041863
>jews, slavs and turks
You just described 50% of Stormfront. The other half were some obese Merricunts working minimum wage jobs.

>>28041865
>I will be armed with an M-4 carbine and two desert eagles

>>28041467
>the next time we make fun of niggers in RL and not on the Internet,
It pleases me immensely that you just set yourself up for charges of premeditated crimes. If you ever get involved is a racially charged situation this can and will be used against you in a court of law. Everyone here who posts the /pol/ bullshit deserves what they get.

>>28041079
>>28041091
You guys really think that going somewhere to "stir things up" constitutes a crime, and it's impossible to prove they were, in fact, simply standing in public, exercising free speech?
> what is the line between free speech, including the right to ridicule or even counter protest, and inciting a riot under the law in Minnesota?
Are you guys lawfags, or are you just SJWs wishing desperately for your hated enemy to be convicted, because that's what it sounds like.
> wtb actual lawfag plz

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>>28040886
>Stay White

>>28040813
god that was a long stretch to be able to say "unarmed black man" in the title.

>>28041929
just watched this, kind of sort of what you're asking for I think
>>28041769

Serves them right for living in a shithole like Minnesota.

>>28041104
>i have no idea what im talking about

listen dipshit, if you say you're going to do things that a reasonable person would believe would lead to violence, and the you do it, and then doing those things LEADS TO VIOLENCE, you've commited a crime.

If you're retarded enough to have filmed/recorded/saved to digital media yourself saying these things, they are admissible in court as proof of your INTENT to commit those crimes.

If you commit a crime (which he WILL be found guilty of, because he was stupid about it) and during the commision of that crime people get killed/hurt, then you are then ALSO responsible for those injuries/deaths as if you had caused them personally.

scarcella will get 3 to 5 years for aggravated assault and rioting, he'll probably serve 1 to 3 and have 10 years probation, hell also get fucked in civil court. he will never own guns again.

The others are being held until they make bail or decide to testify against scarsella

everyone else will be allowed to plea out, with minor shit, probably misdemeanors with probation, maybe as little as DC deoending on the roles they played and their cooperation

This is why you talk to lawyers first.

This is why you keep a fucking flash drive preloaded with Daves Boot & Nuke to wipe your PC and if you must keep info, back it up on externals and hide that shit off you property somewhere.

This is why you call a lawyer first

This is why you have friends to hold your guns while shit plays out

This is why you call a lawyer first

This is why in 8 billion previous threads countless anons have told you dumb fucks not to talk to the goddamn police.

Did I mention call a lawyer first?

Now you all get to see first fucking hand how this shit plays out in real life.

>>28041908
And one additional point- CRIMJIG 7.07 revised 2008 and 2011 (jury instruction guides) has been changed to state that a person does not lose his reluctant participant status by initiating an "incident", even an argument, provided his actions were lawful. Arguing with someone, following someone, giving someone the stink eye are all legal, and thus are not justification for a person losing his reluctant participant status if the incident escalates to violence.

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>>28041947
Yes, because the DA will have access to the NSA's metadata program.

Fag.

>>28041737
>Implying Nuggetfest hasn't been a honeypot for every alphabet soup agency out there.

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>>28041641
Yeah

>>28041959
Capped for future reference.

We'll see, I guess.

>>28041908
>The second point is that the second video, combined with BLM witness reports after the shooting shows that they had exhausted all avenues attempting to escape from the agitated group.
Nope. Alley had two exits, and one was clear.

>It's a bad argument and one that can be easily deflected by the defense showing the location and also the video from that night.
Depends on what shakes out of their email boxes. If they were discussing withdrawal routes and strongpoint locations as an oh shit option, they will be easily fucked.

>But even if it was a tactical withdrawal, the protesters should not have followed them.
No argument there, but they aren't the ones on trial.

>The conflict was stopped by the three men retreating (for whatever reason).
Nope. The conflict is stopped when the confrontation is over. Prosecution will make the argument that it was a running conflict, not two separate ones. They've got a pretty good chance of making that stick, too.

>Following them and committing violence upon them was an aggressive act.
True. But again, they aren't on trial. Also, the racist vid initially and publicly posted followed by several nights of harassment by people the protesters considered with good reason to be armed and racist can be twisted into an argument for a state of reasonable fear for the mob. Not a perfect argument, but enough to convince a jury? After they see that vid? Probably. Have you seen it? It looks like a fucking ISIS vid (unintentionally or not).

>>28041963
Except for the fact that a state of implied violent threat can be made on the initial video, which contains the phrase "we're gonna go see what these dindus are dinduing about, and yes, we're locked and loaded" while prominently displaying a carry piece. There are many cases which have upheld similar videos and public statements as violent threat and incitement.

>>28041640
I grew a tinfoil hat while I read this. Anyone else get that too?

>>28041737
ATF fo sho
Maybe some homeland security related agents if the current administration wants to push for gun control harder and play firearm owners out as terrorists

>>28041956

>yotuube comments

ho lee fuk

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>>28041972
>Everyone is an agent
>it eventually is just a big interdepartmental party
>to keep up apprences they regularly post on 4chan
>and sell products
>and post dank memes
>yfw it turns out this entire board is nothing but operatives shit talking each other

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>>28041644

HE'LL BE BACK

>>28041998
Thats what it is now. Without the agencies

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>MFW tripfags getting felony charges

Skol that shit up your ass Vikings fans.

>>28041998
you guys are alright, don't come to the gear queer threads tomorrow

So did the charges get released yet?

It's past 1:30PM central time.

>>28040681
Let this be a lesson, tripfagging only ends in death or prison rape. kek

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>>28041467
so all these charges hinge on the prosecution proving it was
> an intentional act or threat of unlawful force or violence to person or property
Sounds like it will boil down to proving their comments constituted a "threat", or that the self-defense shooting was unlawful violence. They'll try to argue that the use of racist language = intent to do physical harm, and that having a weapon was also an indication of that intent.

The defense will have to establish that the purpose of being armed was for personal protection, and that there was no intent to do violence, es evidenced by:
> protestors approached and engaged them
> protestors threw the first punches
> the 4 chose to retreat instead of fight
> the 4 were forced to use a weapon due to being pursued by individuals that already demonstrated violent intent

Not sure it would be relevant that the protesters have met the legal definition as "rioters" for several weeks, since they're not on trial here. It will help establish that it was reasonable for the 4 to go down there armed with the intent of self-defense in an emergency.

tbqhfam, the violence of the BLM folks on video for weeks and weeks is what will establish that is was self-defense intent to arm himself before going anywhere near the rioters. If the lawyer is competant, that's what he'll develop as a narrative.

In any case, they can't afford decent representation without a fundraiser. Better get on that.

> pic unrelated, it pisses off SJWs

>>28041989
Not really. Cops literally robbed a friend after threatening him with a gun. I had a shit ton of drugs disappear during an arrest. It's not that much of a stretch.

>>28042015
All four are getting charged with second degree riot, shooter getting charged with 5 counts of assault with deadly weapon.

>>28040903
Half Life 4 confirmed.

>>28042038
Documentation?

Reminder not to meme IRL

>>28041984
>alley
You have to watch the video again- they were trapped within the alley and could not move. They were fully surrounded

>No Argument
The actions of the victims do play a role- see the appropriate MN statutes.

>Nope
No, the trio showed de-escalation by retreating on both occasions. "Conflict" is not a legal term. The legal consideration relates to whether the trio met the four considerations for lawful self-defense.

>Except for the fact

The other two were not in that video, and again, their actions during the protest were neither criminal nor aggressive. Intent is nothing without actual action.

Overall, we can see how the three men's actions meet the standards for self-defense, and how it is a fairly open-and-shut case. Videos of their actual behavior, combined with that of immediate witness reports and video of the incident bear this out.

>>28042052
google "mn blm protest shooter charged"
It's on all major media outlets

>>28042052
>he is too lazy to google it

I found the token black guy!

>>28041092
>Oh, and let's not forget the supreme level of fucked when the contents of their internet histories and email accounts are presented in open court.

>2015
>not truecrypting/veracrypting or even at least bitlockering your hard drive
>not encrypting your phone

Do these /k/ommandos even think ahead about anything?

>>28042022
>They'll try to argue that the use of racist language = intent to do physical harm, and that having a weapon was also an indication of that intent.
Without the vid from before the first troll and a clean email trawl, they'd probably fail this burden. With it? With a jury deciding? They'll probably clear it. In the vid, you have a masked man making racist statements while displaying the very gun probably used in the shooting. And that's before we get to the emails they used to organize the meet and troll. Do you honestly think these poltards didn't drop the phrase "race war" at least once?