Elona

Congrats anons! You get to decide which of these lovely contestants wins the honor of being sand bagged in my little girls prison/gene engineering/execution/play room.
Just know all contestants not picked will get the consolation prize of being disassembled into genes to be shoved into the little girl like all female npcs before them!

Now for our lovely contestants! Younger Sister Rebecca, Young Lady Elizabeth, Dogsister Dorothy, Catsister Katie, and Alexis the Nurse (male)!

Place your votes now!

>>17391745
Young ladies should be tied up and spanked.

>>17391745
Younger sister is for ryona. Sandbag her and let your little girl mercilessly beat her to a pulp. Make sure your little girl doesn't let up until she's a sopping wet mess down there, one final blow sending her over the edge of ecstasy as she shows the younger sister her place. Only then are things as they should be.

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>>17391745
What the fuck

The dogsister obviously

You know I hear Thief is pretty good, and their passive does sound pretty awesome, but god damn.

I have bad luck ever trying it out. Maybe I try to use Pickpocket too much, and should just do my usual shtick of living in Yowyn forever as I gather crops and maybe eventually remember Pickpocket exists.

The Class-unique Feats are kinda neat though. Some anyway, Farmer's is pretty garbage, but something like Warmage is pretty neat. And the previously mentioned Thief.

>>17391900
You forget the insurmountable king of class feats.
TOURIST!!!

>>17391924
Aawww yeah nothing like losing twice as much gold from random events! : ^ )

Though really to be honest, Farmer is a really solid start. It's a shame the class feat is completely worthless. By my math, all it does is increase the Decapitation chance from like, 12.5% to 14%. Woo.

>>17391783
>>17391824
>>17391871
All marvelous points!
Looks like noone seems to care about the cat and the trap, so I suppose they will be the first to become gene smoothies! Providing all those essential vitamins and genetic memories that little girls need to annihilate their enemies!

So now we have 3 cuties remaining. Which will come out on top? And who else will win a one way trip to becoming a disembodied voice in a small child's mind for all eternity?
YOU DECIDE!

>>17391684
Is Yacatect suppose to be the avacado?

I'm a bit tempted to try out EIIJII MOODO... but then I feel like I'm really not gonna get 'better' at this game...

That and actually leveling up faster is sort of bad.

>>17392102
Younger Sister Cult representative here.
You wil regret if you'll make the wrong choice here, buddy.

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We still don't have wish messages or moongates, but thank goodness death messages are back. It wouldn't be Elona without them.

>>17392242
Itzpalt is a kiwi.

>>17391684
Hell yeah got into 3 parts of the OP collage.

>>17392272
I couldn't actually get chat to work. I looked at the 'guide' on it, but now I just get a big pop-up full of HTML dialogue.

I think it worked briefly, then it somehow stopped after a single message.

>>17391684
Those sprites are all very cute

>>17392258
I am sorry good sir, but despite your religious connections I am not the one pulling the strings.
The people will decide who shall be the lucky girl to keep her autonomy. I will merely tally the votes.

To be honest if no one had replied in a bout a day, I likely would have chosen dog sister. So you cultists win this round...

>>17392272

eh how you get the chat working?

>>17392280
If that popup is big and full of html, that means you haven't replaced server.txt

Don't edit it, just delete is and make a new file called server.txt and paste this into it:

elochat-proxy.shiroko.yi.org%elona.squares.net%

and make sure serverList is set to 1 in config.txt

>>17392446
It's not worth it, there's a couple people who just say really cringy shit and pretend to be ingame news chatter

>>17392470
If done right, it should make a pop-up with that server name when you load in?

>>17392559
Right.
You can hit / and tab over over to the chat.
If it's full of messages about Super God Maximus dying it's working

>>17392653
Aah its two tabs to see that chat. Neat.

>>17392272
>but I'm a nyoro~n penis
What did he mean by this?

I'm on a new computer and having a strange problem on character creation. On the appearance customization step, the game starts going slower the more clothing options I visualize, up to a point where the game simply gets stuck and I have to close it. Never had this problem before, and looking it up I didn't find it mentioned elsewhere. Any clues? I'm running windows 10 and executing with windows 7 compatibility. I'm aware it's a buggy piece of shit.

>>17392788
Game shouldn't be buggy since it can pretty much run on a toaster. What do you have installed?

Wiki says that pets disregard complicated body penalty while being ridden. Can anyone comfirm this?

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I was inspired by the conversation about talk files last thread so I made a quick one for my dog sister, based it on best wolf girl. Figured I'd share it here to spread the love. I apologize for the wall of text.

%txtCalm,EN //"I'm not a dog, a wolf! We're super cool."
%txtAggro,EN //"Grrrrrrrrrr! *Bark!* *Bark!* *Bark!*"
%txtDead,EN //"Miyubiiiii!!!"
%txtKilled,EN //"Awoooo!"
%txtWelcome,EN //"Welcome into my pack!"
%txtDialog,EN //"I am the great wolf Lanka! The Proud Wolf Leader!"
%txtMaterial,EN //"Ah! Give them back! I need them so I have something to smell when you're not around!!"
%txtBfast,EN //"I put in a lot of my love for {player} when cooking it~! Say aaaah~"
%txtNight,EN //"Th... this is... my chance to expand the pack...!!!"
%txtInsult,EN //"I won't forgive you if you take an attitute like that with me, I'm the Leader!!"
%txtInsult2,EN //"The Leader's orders are absolute!"
%txtDiscipline,EN //"This is like I'm a pet, and I'm supposed to be the boss as well..."
%txtDiscipline2,EN //"Kyuuun, kyuuun"
%txtDisciplineOff,EN //"A-A wolf doesn't take handouts from stranger!!"
%txtDisciplineEat,EN //"*Wharbl!*"
%txtMeal,EN //"The Leader gets first pick on the food. It's only obvious."
%txtCharge,EN //"That's right, wolves hunt in packs!"
%txtChargeS,EN //"How dare you... How dare you threaten my packmates!!!"
%txtChargeA,EN //"I'll rip you to shreds between my fangs!!!"
%txtKizuna,EN //
%txtSpecial,EN //"*Bark!* *Bark!*"

%txtKiss,EN //"*Lick* *Lick*"
%txtChoco,EN //"It's Lanka's special... "Lanka's LOVE"!!
%txtNade,EN //"Praise me~ Praise me~"
%txtHug,EN //"I never thought I'd be getting this much attention after making a pack you know~ Being a boss feels so... good!!"
%txtFawnOn,EN //"Stop going against the boss constantly!!"
%txtMidNight,EN //"If you don't leave I'll... I'll... NEVER SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN!!"
%txtRideOff,EN //"Having troubles with a disobedient underling... this must be what it feels like to be the boss!"
%txtRideOffPC,EN //"Fine, even you want to join later I'm not gonna let you!"
%txtRideOn,EN //"This is like I'm a pet, and I'm supposed to be the boss as well..."
%txtRideOnPC,EN //"That's right, I'm the Boss of this pack!"
%txtLimit,EN //
%txtMultiple,EN //
%txtDrain,EN //"*Kyuuun, kyuuun.*"
%txtCreate,EN //"Ah! Give them back! I need them so I have something to smell when you're not around!!"
%txtEXAct,EN //Join Pack
%txtEXReact,EN //"We can understand each other through licky-licking you know~!"

Damn these threads became /v/ incarnate, what happened.

>>17393295
What do you mean?

>>17393295
Not weeb 'nough? yeah

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Ehekatl watches over me.

>>17393206
That's cute but put your wall in a pastebin next time

>>17393206
You should make a cnpc.
What bit would be good for Lanka?

>>17393988
cTemper,cSeeInvisi,cResFear,cHorse

>>17393988
Welp, hacking a lanka sprite asap now.
Need to parse the chapter for a good goofy pose.
I need to get comfy with az painter anyway.

>>17393531
You'll love that disease for a long time. Rods of firewall stack for recipes, teleport other is easy to get charges of, free silence and speed when you're too illiterate to read those books or unlucky with scrolls, free thunder vortex and all the weird ball spells.

Then lategame you'll remember you're going to get fucked the instant you find a rod of wish. Make sure to carry a few cure corruptions in your inventory so you can quaff them on the world map!

>>17394052
Yep I got it at perfect point. I can craft rods now thanks to influx of material scrolls, got rare rods from magical plants but rods of wishes are way too far ahead. Even more so, i gained it just at the moment when i filled second storage house with rods.

First disease is a bit questionable for loss char but still works really well at this stage, I wonder if i should just leave it be. At very high levels VG could deal something like 2mil damage with this LER boost, 4 mil with uncontroll. Bonus MP for shield and early cap for extra experience are too tasty.

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I've been out for a few years, this is new, isn't it? What are the 'rules' (file size, format restrictions, transparency, etc.) for custom standup portraits?

Well, charged attack special action is fucking broken, used it and threw a rock instead of hitting with melee and my character kept throwing for 40-50 throws until the enemy died

>>17394201
bmp 24 bit 0 0 0 black is transparent, size is apparently scaled with 800x600 resolution in mind, but i never tried sized different from original 300x500

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Ano pls. I'm literally forced to stop dumping plat on gardening potency due to this shit.

>>17394305
Where the hell are all your scarecrows

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>>17394310
?

>>17394329
You're missing about 30

>>17394347
I have to camp furniture vendors for several years to fill even 6 farms with that amount.

>>17394362
Oh i'm dumb i could simply buy more farms for this. Still too expensive for me at that point.

>>17394362
If you have pickpocket, just repeatedly steal all the snow scarecrows in noyel

>>17394367
lv3 pickpocket wont help much.

>>17394347
So, why 30? Is it a vague guesstimation?

Got a younger catsister, can I rewire her AI to have her prioritize using her bow before South Tyris, or do I have to wait until then? She's so frail in melee.

>>17394477
Try Doujou. Or Custom AI from Elona+ Custom mod.

>>17394486
Oh, it seems it only changes flavor text. I guess the only option is Custom AI.

>>17394477
Self Status = Brainwashed: Move (Away)
Target Distance = 1: Attack (Melee)
Target Distance < 6: Attack (Ranged)
Target Distance > 1: Move (Forward)

Alternatively, you could give her a whip; the default AI will use those. (There's no way to do a distant melee attack with custom AI as far as I can tell.)
Or if you want her to actively avoid melee:

Self Status = Brainwashed: Move (Away)
Target Distance = 1: Move (Away)
Target Distance < 6: Attack (Ranged)
Target Distance > 1: Move (Forward)

(The Brainwashed line is optional, but if there's room for it it'd keep her from attacking you.)

>>17394237
Wait what? You can have full portraits bigger than 300x500? Since when?

>>17394237
Any size works BUT it will always center by the upper left corner.

>>17394572
Just checked, you can feed image larger than base but game automatically crops right/bottom sides above 300x500.
I've had a larger image and didnt notice why it looks this way at first.

>>17394449
Well, the code looks like this, as far as I can see (E+Custom 1.70.1):


if ( adata(16, gdata(20)) == 103 ) {
p = limit(rnd((sdata(180, 0) + 1) / 20 + 1), 1, 5)
repeat p
flt calcobjlv((sdata(180, 0) + 1) / 3 + 1), 2
dbid = 0
fltn "wild"
characreate -1, dbid, -3, 0
cbitmod 964, rc, 1
loop
}

Now from what I understand,
>if ( adata(16, gdata(20)) == 103 )
Means, "are we on a crop map?"
And
>sdata(180, 0)
Appears to be something like the player's gardening level.
So it looks like it spawns more and stronger monsters (higher loop count and higher level) based on gardening.

The object ids for snow scarecrow and scarecrow are 274 and 590, respectively, in E+Custom. I have found zero references to anything that checks those item ids for anything other than descriptions.

Has this been a myth the whole time?

>>17394775
Couldn`t find any references for either scarecrow as well.

First roll is randomized amount of monsters based on gardening, with maximum of 5.
with amount of monsters decided by randomized 1 - ((gardening+1)/20+1))

You get 50% chance for maximum spawn at lv179 gardening.


Second roll is monster level, supposedly (Gardening LV+1)/3+1, which roughly fits the level range of actually generated monsters for me.

Found sdata 180 being mentioned there:

listn(0, listmax) = "採取する" + "(" + skillname(180) + ": " + sdata(180, 0) + ")"
listmax++
atxrefval1 = 7
}
This is a piece of code for bush gathering spot, and indeed, sdata (180,0) refers to gardening skill level.

Judging by sdata(180, 0) * 2 + 5 > rnd(atxlv + 1) formula used to calculate succes of gathering, full skill level value used, since atxlv = nefia level.


Conclusion: its no wonder VG is so op, farming would be impossibly hard for non-combat characters without this skill.

>#defcfunc calcobjlv int calcobjlv_arg1
>if ( calcobjlv_arg1 <= 0 ) {
> objlv@m43 = gdata(22)
>}
>else {
> objlv@m43 = calcobjlv_arg1
>}
>if ( gdata(20) == 30 ) {
> objlv@m43 = 1
>}
>repeat 3, 1
> p@m43 = rnd(30 + cnt * 5)
> if ( p@m43 == 0 ) {
> objlv@m43 += rnd(10 * cnt)
> continue
> }
> break
>loop
>if ( calcobjlv_arg1 <= 3 ) {
> if ( rnd(4) != 0 ) {
> objlv@m43 = rnd(3) + 1
> }
>}
>return objlv@m43
Meh i cant read that shit. Supposedly calcobjlv_arg1 = 2 for farm spawn and cnt is the result of gardening/3 part of the spawn formula, but I'm not sure what i see there.

Its like reading complicated story with MT. So very 'fun'.

>>17394960
>calcobjlv_arg1
is, in this case (sdata(180, 0) + 1) / 3 + 1, which translates into (gardening + 1) / 3 + 1
It means the game will only spawn monsters with level roughly up to ~gardening/3, and "quality" of 2 (normal, non-boss).

>>17394987
Thank you for deciphering this.

Its time to ALP Karatas now, I guess.

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Hey guys. Sorry for the delay, but the next stop on the Nightmare train has just arrived! Itzpalt saw his element dragon, and saw that it was good. So he decided to take it up a notch for his next creation.

Behold! The Element Maneki! Just like all other maneki crabs, it abuses its multiple gather to surround itself with a small army. Once it has an army, it takes advantage of its ally with over-ray! (and collected power to help build gauge for it) It doesn't do as much damage as expected, but with an entire's floor worth of mobs, the animation time will make you want to kill yourself anyway! For even more danger, it has a special surprise for when it is low on health, just to fuck your shit up even further.

Oh yeah, and because Itzpalt made it, it's immune to all elements barring magic. Because fuck you.

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Sorta forgot to mention, but the Element crab comes with two versions, one that splits, and one that doesn't. Choose the split version if you want to ruin your game forever. DL link here:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/s43vk8mqa1wublj/Elemental_Maneki.zip

Tune in tomorrow for the final destination on the Nightmare train for now, as I'm sorta running out of ideas. But don't worry, the next crab will be by far the worst. So nasty, even Kai would dread its existence.

>>17394052
Does it give you wish stock if you pick up a rod of wish? If so, how much?
I ask because super late game you may actually get more casts of wish that way.

Any ideas for AE86 dialog?
%txtCalm,EN
"*muffled eurobeat*"
"*revevevevev*"
%txtAggro,EN
"I won't lose... to a scumbag like you!"
"You'll never overtake me!"
%txtDead,EN
"*overrevs*"
%txtKilled,EN
"The GT-R spun out!"
%txtWelcome,EN
"revevevev-vrooom!"
%txtDialog,EN
Hi.
What's up?
Dude...
%txtMaterial,EN
"This stuff keeps getting stuck in my filter."
%txtBfast,EN
"Ready to deliver some tofu?"
%txtNight,EN
"revevevev-ooov"//is this an intelligible onomatopoeia for car shutting off?
%txtInsult,EN
"You're car is slow."
"You fight like a two cylinder!"
%txtInsult2,EN
"You suck!"
"You will die alone."
%txtDiscipline,EN
"Stop!"
%txtDiscipline2,EN
"Stop!"
%txtDisciplineOff,EN
"Please...stop..."
%txtDisciplineEat,EN
"Can I eat this food?"
%txtCharge,EN
"I will protect you!"
%txtCharge,EN
"I started to charge from now."
%txtCharge,EN
"How about this attack?"
%txtKizuna,EN
"Perfect rev matching!"
%txtSpecial,EN
"Weee."
%txtKiss,EN
"Woohoo!"
%txtChoco,EN
"Woohoo!"
%txtNade,EN
"The AE86 sparkles."
%txtHug,EN
"Weee."
%txtFawnOn,EN
"Weee."
%txtMidNight,EN
"ZZZ.."
%txtRideOff,EN
"That was a good run."
%txtRideOffPC,EN
"Weee."
%txtRideOn,EN
"Let's go!"
%txtRideOnPC,EN
"I don't think we're doing this right..."
%txtLimit,EN
"Speed car, speed car, AE86 is coming!"
%txtMultiple,EN
"Weee."
%txtDrain,EN
"Weee."
%txtCreate,EN
"Weee."
%txtEXAct,EN
To blindfold
%txtEXReact,EN
"Weee."
%txtDialogB,EN
I am somewhat pounding.
%txtDialogE,EN
Please do not be mean...
%txtDialogF,EN
I'm fun!
%txtDialogH,EN
Very happy!
%endTxt

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I would nuke every city in North Tyris for a wish right now.

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>>17395044
>multiple gather -> Over-ray
>cResElem
>>17395049
>split


Help

>>17395069
No clue.

>>17394915
So it's a myth. Scarecrows don't stop wild spawn on crops.

>>17395049
Nasty. What level is this guy? Are my ventures to DL400 enough to meet it and die horribly?

>>17395049
Just dont make the resele+armour+metal+superior mag res combo, that would be a foul.

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>>17395073
>You're car

>>17395167
Better start leveling Water Bolt.

What guild rank do I need to be to reserve Oracle spellbooks?

>>17395163
It's level 200. Higher than other naturally spawning mobs IIRC.

>>17395167
:)

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>>17395191
Oh by the way, finally met atlas manakei. You should've make him at least a little bit <boss-like>, because he was too insane to do anything to me or my team.

>>17395044
You need to make a custom map just filled with all these variants at some run down crab research lab.
Let Irva experience true terror.

>>17395243
Thanks for actually downloading these. Do let me know how they perform in case there's something wrong with them. Hope you don't mind references to 11 year old memes too.

So <enemies with these> are immune to insanity? Huh. Something to note for the next one. I'm too lazy to fix that right now, so insane manekis will have to suffice.

>>17395281
Sorry for double post. I have no idea how to make custom maps though, so someone else is gonna have to do that. I wonder if the old map making guy is still around.

>>17395297
Well, about the only "wrong" thing I can recall is that he doesn't attack me until I attack first.

>So <enemies with these> are immune to insanity?
Yeah, <upgraded> {enemies} are immune to insanity and bunch of other status effects. They also are resistant to hexes and, IIRC, have 5 times as much HP to chew through.

>>17395325
Hmm. Not sure what could be causing that. But as long as he spams multiple gather regardless, it should be fine. You gotta attack him to kill him, or else face a small army.

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Just when I got first curse drake for her, Arasiel pulls this.

>>17395345
What's his "relation."? Because he also attacks my enemies like a neutral, except I can't displace him, only attack.

Bronze coins are a new addition since the last time I played - what does the 'special menu' I can order from innkeepers with them do? Should I be saving them for something else?

>>17395404
It adds attribute growth boost to every stat just like when you eat raw equipment that protects some attribute.
You can also use it to upgrade cart and your shopkeeper's CHA and negotiation potentials.

>>17395404
Entire party will become complete satiated and get 1500 turns of increased stat growth for every stat.

How does curse affect potions if you use them offensively? Does cursed potion of poison do more damage when thrown or less?

>>17395363
-2, which should be hostility.

>>17395404
>>17395412
In relation to the cart, its the only way to upgrade it now. And it caps out at 10 bronze coins per upgrade.

Don't worry about hoarding them, they aren't too hard to get. There's supposed to be plans for them to be used for more in the future though.

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>>17395425
Hm. Try -3, it worked well enough for my custom npcs. Damn, meteor is stronk in enemy hands.

>>17395532
I'll give it a try tomorrow. I'll make the crabs have <rarity> too. Also, if you hate meteor, have fun with the Element Crab!

Are laser guns only ranged weapons that do 100% of it's damage across almost all ranges?

>>17395629
There's also the Nightmare.

>>17395629
>>17395637
This is honestly why I usually don't bother with ranged characters.
At least with everything else I don't have to make sure I'm in the goddamn Goldilocks zone every time I make an attack.

>>17395676
While it's true that magic auto-hits, there's something that it lacks: crits. For instance, +throwing rock can get you a 1.5x modifier rather than 1.0x at the right distance, and there are a lot of good special actions for ranged. Plus, you get to use special ammo, and special ammo is basically cheating

>>17395688
Since crits roll full damage, on a flatfooted enemy you might do better with ranged than a single target magic spell even early on, and ball spells have worse range than a sniper rifle. That said I used to hate range as well before I noticed these things

>>17395637
So basically stick with my artefact laser gun and get some good ammo for it, preferably heavy as shit ammo.

>>17395688
>Each of the distance multipliers gets +05 to it, and when attacking, the pierce will increase to 70%.

1.05x, not 1.5x

And magic has the same damage reduction with range, just like most ranged weapons.

>>17395688
Casting has conditional weaknesses for elemental spells (almost akin to an auto-crit), while Magic and Water spells bypass traditional defenses.
Granted Water has the shittiest scaling imaginable.

Honestly, well-equipped throwing char is very scary due to many skills that scale with throwing, and very good overall synergy between buffs, over-long throw and ranged aoe attack.

>>17395722
Magic falls off at a distance? Never noticed this, it always seemed to be the same damage. And I really thought +05 meant +0.5, rather than +0.05

>>17395722
>>17395749

>As of Elona+ 1.32, magical dart, bolt and ball spells have a range modifier much like ranged weapons. The modifier is identical for all spell types and is equal to (100 / (75 + range* 25))%. An adjacent enemy is considered to be at range 1 and takes 1.00x damage, whereas an enemy at range 2 takes (1.00/1.25)x damage, and so on.

Well shit. I'm supposed to stand right in their face, huh.

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>>17395749
>>17395760
The wiki claims there is a distance modifier, but I'm doubtful of this.
I'm testing it on shit in the wild and my ice bolt seems to hit for ~5k at max distance and right up in their face, when it should be doing less than half as much at max distance.

>>17395760
Well I guess it makes sense it would hurt more to take an explosion of fireball point blank to the face.
Still seems a bit counter intuitive for a full mage though.

>>17395749
I didnt notice 50% damage bonus, but i didn`t test it extensively. Maybe stone's random damage is the reason.
1.5x + over long throw would hit like a truck.

>>17395749
At least thats what changelog says, never really tested it.


Well melee is still the king of raw damage, but ranged got crazy burst damage with good ammo or an extremely potent kit and layered bonuses for throwing. Most importantly, ranged is much more safe for permadeath in general. Accidental overcasts happen too often.

>>17395788
Yeah I've been playing full mage for a while and I've never noticed this, and I had assumed it was like D&D rules, you hit them automatically and so deal damage. Reflex save is whatever, none of that shit here.

>>17395788
full mage got bolt spells to work at long range.

>>17395789
Maybe wizard class secretly ignores this? That would be a good feat as opposed to 10% mana saving anyway

>>17395775
It's for magic dart like only if I remember correctly.

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>>17395722
>>17395749
>>17395760
>>17395775
>>17395788
>>17395789
>>17395794
>>17395796
>>17395802
>· Eliminated distance attenuation of all attack magic including ball type magic.
The distance modifier was completely eliminated for all magic in 1.39.

>>17395801
Doubtful. Personally i never noticed the drop of damage with warmage.

>>17395802
>>17395760
Changelog says different thing.

>>17395805
Christ why even read the wiki

>>17395805
Thank you. I missed the most important part somehow. I blame endless changelogs.

>>17395814
Wiki is so outdated it's not even a bad joke now

>>17395817
Well it certainly doesn't help that the English wiki has the nerf, but not that it was undone.

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>>17395044
Thanks for your creations. All three crabs are now in my game and I'm awaiting to see them in the void. Chose the split version for both performaid crab and the element crab. I'll report back when I see them down there. I think I see a sprite that looks very familiar in this pic >>17395049. I'm honored yet scared that I might be being used as a training dummy against these Armageddon engine crabs lol. Hopefully Kai and team will do alright when we seem them in the void.

Threw a quick edit on the wiki page to hopefully prevent further confusion.

>>17395829
Kai is so strong he needs completely unfair void-buffed creatures to even be worried about death, on a loss character no less. I'd guess a meteor from a Lv500 Element Crab would barely scratch you

>>17395851
Thanks!

I like this game a lot

>>17395864
Well, it would scratch him, but Kai has way too much HP to be fazed by most things. I can imagine maybe predators with capped-out stats and skills doing a number on him, but that's about it.

I wonder if Bloodyshade reads that Elona Custom (Feature Request Thread) part of the wiki's forum. So many new skills are missing for pets.

>>17395908

god moth skill stuff is not white listed

So Rats have highest breeding power in the game, what about their evolution forms? Do they keep the same or lose/gain more?

>>17395829
I'm so honoured that our local godslayer has noticed me. Mad props for you taking the risk. In all honesty, I'm not sure how difficult they'll actually be at your level, so you're sorta are the testing dummy here.
btw, I'm using the same PCC as you because it's one of the few good male pccs out there.

>>17395884
I did think about a crazy martial artist themed crab, but I don't think enemies can get the 8 attacks that MA do since they can't get the extra attack equipment. Not sure how much more dangerous predator enemies are compared to others, so some input from high levelled players would be nice. I need more ideas for future crabs, after all.

>>17395884
Not to mention he has barrier so enemies have to smash through his also large mp pool to even get to his hp.

I just discovered that Absolute Protect can put your defender in negative HP without killing him.

I wonder if I should just save up for an Estate, or just get a like, Cozy House or something.

The cave in Vernis has its charm, you know but its kind of far from the Farm I put up near Yowyn, which makes collecting my pitiful salary or bills a bit out of the way...

Where do people like to set up their own little collection of buildings? It'd be neat if one day we could actually make a little functional town or something, although the Praise system seems to be sort of working that way for the actual towns.

>>17395920
Breeding power only depends on level and race, evolition is unrelated.
>>17395911
There is at least a dozen of skills not whitelisted at the moment.
>>17395959
Megid flame, emergency evasion, super regene and metal(5 turn damage reduction one) skills, turn area into water tiles or water ball with lower chance, main weapon is ice ball. Speed, Divine wisdom, Holy Veil(lol) buffs.

>>17395998
I set it up around Palmia(close enough to yowyn) or Port Kapul(pet arena instead of quest grinding)

>>17395995
If you heal him but not enough to take him out if the negative does that instakill him?

>>17396010
>evolition is unrelated.
Ah, good to know, thanks for the info.

Regarding buisness cards and changing classes, do you get the skills you don't have by switching to a class that does have it or is that not possible?
Further more can you switch to any non-default class that other NPCs have?

If you guys want stuff whitelisted you've got to post it in that main E+C development thread. BloodyShade responds to that stuff. Just be nice!

>>17396010
Megid flame, silent ocean and MA with ice element with super regen at low HP sounds like a nasty combo. The issue with having loads of buffs/debuffs is that you can't modify cNPC AI like you can with pets in custom, so I imagine several turns go to waster.

>>17396025
Whitelisted?
What do you mean?

>>17395998
I never figured this out either. I've got a house a little east of Lumiest, but farms there always snow, so I had to set those up around Lumiest and southwest. I set it near Lumiest so I could get fast travel to Noyel and Lumiest (spellwriter), but then again I have SLB, not sure if you have thse yet. Since tax prepay forms have obsoleted living near the embassy, if you already have an altar in your house, the only question is what areas do you prioritize? (Reason I mention the altar is that some like to put their house near the Truce Grounds)

If you like going back and forth to a food vendor there's always Port Kapul. What I haven't figured out is whether or not I should have set up my home/shop in South Tyris instead. I never spend any time there, and that's probably incorrect. I can't even imagine what'll happen when I get to the 3rd continent.

So really, it's all to taste, and no matter what you pick, you'll probably feel like you screwed up.

>>17396023
You get passive buff from class if you used proper class name(lowercase). You can then rename class again to something of your own, and pet will retain last proper class' passive buff.

>>17396025
Good to know! I wasn`t sure where to post the list.
>>17396031
I think at least speed buff would be useful enough. Too bad you cant write proper AI like the one for original game monsters.
Anyway i just posted everything i could imagine that could strengthen kid with this direction.

>>17396054
South tyris got maid mansion and you can set up 2 shops if you need. North tyris is still the main grind spot due to void and several return spots (like little sister mansion to read art of () books and such)

>>17396063
I never bought that thing, I can't pull enough music tickets to even consider travelling back and forth to Arcbelc from Mansion. If it's more useful than that I guess I can spring for it. Thanks, now I don't feel so bad about staying in N. Tyris most of the time.

>>17396055
So going for predator would only give the class feat passive, but not the +10 speed?
Dang, I guess they're only good for changing up your pets and switching classes once you're midgame and need something better.

>>17396022
No, checks for 0 or less HP only happen when losing them.

>>17396031
Another variant is a splitter tank (high life, armour+resele bits) with eye of mana and multiple gather.
Or mistletoe, probably better to check source for better source of mana burn(inner god one aside)

>>17396173
What about a tank splitter that has greater throw potion?

>>17396173
The crab I'm releasing tomorrow has something to that effect. Don't worry.

>>17396180
Why not a greater throw potion bell/quickling?

>>17396180
Greater throw potion is nasty, but not fatal. You'll lose 20% of your stats to high potion of disaster, but that's it.

>>17396180
Why stop here? just dump metal, armour, resele splitter god that prevents teleportation and casts mewmewmew
Greater throw potion is more of an extremely annoying move than a dangerous one.

>>17396193
Oh I thought disaster stacked.

Of all the lovely things about Elona, there are still fewer that entertain me more than my pet catgirl going nothin' personnel kid on someone who gets too close to me, shadowstepping behind them, and executing them with a smile

Is paralysis negation just much rarer than other enchantments, or have I been unlucky? Plenty of negates other, but I'm still open to paralysis.

I made a little thing https://pastebin.com/SQrQtdiL
For the Misc. Information in the OP pastebin

>>17396338
>https://pastebin.com/SQrQtdiL
Appreciated!

About how many statues/cards before it's worth buying a museum in 1.70? Just saving the all up in a storage house for now.

>>17396361
I could write down each stat for race and class individually so that you could simply do 2+2 on whats max and min for combinations, but I'm having a little of a brain fart trying to figure out min and max for Predator and Gunner classes.

>>17396013
I did think of Port Kapul, since Palmia does lack a pet arena, and its normally kind of out of the way, so I could Return to it at least.

>>17396054
I always feel like I screwed up at SOMETHING in Elona. :(

Are the tax prepay forms those like tax certificate things? They seem suspiciously cheap for what they list, so I suspect you have to buy it, then have all the gold on hand for the certificate...

>>17396405
Yeah, all you do is buy the forms and then submit them in the pay box, THEN it deducts it from your cash on hand. Think of the cost of buying the cert like the cost of buying a kitty bank. For instance I bought 4x 1.2m certs, used one, and 4x 12m certs even though I do not have 48m on hand and I did not turn them in. I just did it in case I need them.

>>17396361
>>17396374
I updated it a bit, got the Predator and Gunner written down, as well as giving a more detailed per attribute-class/race 'chart'.

>>17396193
Effectively losing a high potion of soma is one hell of an annoyance.

>>17396193

somas are pain in the ass to make

The Statues of Lulwy in Lumiest can't be stolen, but you can use them just like the one from the Rare Books quest. They're all on different cooldowns, too.

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>>17396367
When it comes to salary the museum pays the most compared to other activities that contribute to it. At max rank you get around 20k/month while the maintenance cost is about 1500/month. If you already have some statues/cards you may already have the potential to offset the maintenance fee and profit. I say just go for it and buy it to get it out of the way.

>>17396880
>around 20k/month
Correction about 40k a month. I forgot that you get paid the first and 15th of every month. Maintenance is the same though.

>>17396880
I think you get 1/3rd of breaking even with just one rogue boss statue&card, museums are pretty much fastest building to start breaking even.

>>17397175
wait christ what the hell are you doing

Do the god buffs/items let you raise your stats that high that fast? I've not bothered yet and people seem to have much higher stats than I do at those levels.

Man these Bards are really stingy with Stradivarius. Been clearing them out of every town when I drop by and no luck still... is it really that rare, or do I need to do something besides shanking everyone of them?

>>17397423
Best bet is to always use Oracle, and hit up Noyel during Jurefest.

>>17397432
I completely forgot Oracles actually had a use like that, besides for selling as they're actually worth a pretty penny.

what do I do to make my custom npc use swarm frequently but boost rarely?
aiMove. "100"
aiDist. "1"
aiHeal. "-1"
aiAct. "647,631,-1,-1,-1"
aiActSubFreq. "0"
aiActSub. "0,0,0,0,0"

>>17397423
Have you tried pickpocketing their instruments before you kill them? IIRC, bards respawn with the same instrument every time, unless you take it away which causes them to generate a new one.

>>17397175
Farming xp with meteor and summon spirit, huh?

Anyone have something like hentai portraits? i need it to self insert role playing

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Praise Ehekatl! After a friggin half of a year of checking 4 upgraded merchants bi-daily I finally got that damned BBQ set.

>>17398631
You were really unlucky, I got two off the embassy in under a week

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How do I fix this?

>>17398659
Update your spritesheet graphic\item.bmp

>>17398663
How do I do that? is it on the pastebin?

>>17398676
Simply re-install fresh version if you didnt mod it. I'd suggest re-downloading the game from original source.

>>17398529
Guys? please help

>>17398529
>>17398720
It's not clear what you're even asking. You want random portraits made using hentai doujin characters? Why not make them yourself? It takes under a minute to make one and it's better to choose yourself, I don't know your tastes

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>>17398529

>>17398631
Wait you actually can buy the BBQ set? By the wording on the wiki, I thought a Food Processor was the best you could buy, and a BBQ Set would only spawn in Party Time!

>>17399228
You usually need some investment to get it from shop. Its a common, albeit relatively expensive, furniture. Like King's Bed.

>>17398747
Maybe something with Kagami art

>>17399546
So you want someone to replace all the character portraits with art by kagami hino.

>>17399562
It's Kagami Hirotaka, but yeah.

I'm always tempted to try and pick Yacatect for a god, because I'm always wanting more and more platinum coins... but the pet is just a goose, who doesn't become a cute girl until it evolves.

And who doesn't want a giant harem of cute girls?

>>17399633
The answer is always custom sprites\PCC.

Sorry everyone, but what is Elona+ Custom? it been long times since i got back to this.

>>17399641
Does feel a bit like cheating, although I do need some kind of special sprites for duplicates... I can't tell my two younger sisters apart right now, and I can't evolve them for a looooong time.

Looking at the pastebin, only the PCCs seem to be not 'outdated', although I'm not sure what those are. Guess one way to find out.

>>17399681
Custom is a mod of Elona+, basically it takes the latest E+ and translates a lot of text/enables cutscenes/adds QOL features. Using it or even switching back and forth from it and normal E+ will not break your game or saves

>>17399681
latest version at
> http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014
description is at
> http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/Elona_Custom

Most important feature, aside from what >>17399695 said, is that it provides the ability to program your pets with fairly well-balanced custom AI.
> http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4

>>17399686
Customization shouldnt make you feel like that. There are many PCC versions of vanilla sprites as well, with them you could view your younger sisters from all sides. you can fiddle a bit with sprites and make a copy with different color for clothes/hair, there are many simple ways to customize your bunch of slaves to make it look like a proper party.
And dont forget about talk.txt

>>17399686
Check tieba pack

>>17399597
Sure. Took me about 1 hour. File is at www.sendspace.com/file/9sei0t , extract this and replace the face1.bmp file with this bmp. As always, back up your original file. Let me know if there's a problem.

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For some reason, it seems like resource spots in dungeons use a global value to determine how many uses they have until they run out.
If you search a resource spot until it's just about to run out, then head to another resource spot, the second spot will deplete in only a couple searches. You can then go back to the first spot and get a full amount of uses out of it again.
You could use this to get more resources from "better" spots by resetting the counter on the junk spots.

It seems that someone in the wiki's comments noticed the same phenomenon, so it's not just me.

>>17399901
Yeah it's a thing. It always felt like cheating to me

>>17399855
Face1 file in /graphics/ not /user/graphics btw.

>>17399855
Not that guy but why they're all ass though, and what is the limpbizkitman doing there?

>>17399855
thank you so much, everything work fine, but why there are so many ass?

>>17398631
What was the merchant level?

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>>17399942
This post made me curious so I checked, o im laffin

>>17399965
50 to 60, I used +50 investment once on all traders which sold furniure.

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All right guys. The finale to the Nightmare Train for now is finally here!

Disaster! A lecture at the adventure seminar on gene engineering has gone horribly wrong, and now the sturdy mascot has been merged with a multitude of crabs. The crabs began summoning an army of monsters, and the security team could not even scratch the monstrosities. Overwhelmed, they resorted to telporting the crabs out. Whilst the seminar was saved, these nightmares are still out there. Undefeatable, and with an army of terrors...

The Karata Maneki can only use multiple gather and summon monsters. So it's no biggie right? Well, as the name implies, the Karata Maneki is everyone's favourite mascot on steroids. cResEle, high resistance to pure magic, cArmour AND cMetal for 97.5% physical damage reduction, and as a God race, has a high life pool! All this combines to make this crab near unkillable. Whilst you do no damage, he summons his legions, and with no escape thanks to MG, you will be overwhelmed. Unless you are Kai, you better pack some prevent teleport equipment, or else you're never getting off Mr. Crab's Wild Ride!

Sadly, this guy cannot split. Noa/Ano had the foresight to stop cMetal/Armour npcs from splitting. Still, this crab is more dangerous than the rest. Install with caution. DL link for him and the rest of the crabs here:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2h23m9ohuo6h5ww/Nightmare_Manekis.zip

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Well, that's the end of the nightmare train for now, as I'm running out of ideas for the moment. Maybe I'll make some more when this fad dies out. Thanks for your positive reception, and thank you to those with the balls to install them. Especially those on loss mode like Kai. Do post your encounters with them here, so that the community and I can read all about (mis)adventures, and for me to fix any issues that become apparent.

The DL link above contains not only the Karata Crab, but all the other crabs too in one file. All the crabs have been updated to fix issues, so I suggest taking the time to re-add them if you've already installed them, assuming that's how it works. Because of this, I ask Mr. Pastebin to remove the links to the other crabs and instead like just this one to remove clutter on the mod pastebin.

Note: The image cannot be attained in normal gameplay anymore, as their <rarity> stops them from being dominated. No crab waifu for you :(

>>17399855
You waste 1 hour to make this fucking ass?

>>17399855
Make taimanin asagi portrait please, no ass please.

>>17400235
Sorry, I was fucking my sister. I'll have it done right away sir.

>>17400206
ALP says: liez(to note)

>>17388034
>>17388460
>>17388527
>>17388537
Should have checked the pastebin.

>>17400235
I think the joke was that you should do it yourself faggot

>>17400281
Oh. I thought ALP only worked on static npcs. Neat to know.

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This rare item drop flag somehow breaks things here and there.

How do you calculate invoke's chance? If i have Invoke Lulwy's trick [###] will i get 6% chance?(2% base chance according to wiki)

>>17400600
>The chance of a specific invoke is fixed and #s will only affect the strength of this invoke.

So uh, you get 3 tricks

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>>17400406
I was thinking the same thing today man, I have never seen so many happy beds in all my years playing

Does everyone just make their own sprite sheets for monsters/npcs nowadays? After using the higher quality ones for so long going back to vanilla feels weird.

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>>17400179
>>17400206
mfw

>>17400745
I simply tossed all the modded spritesheets layer by layer in one big psd and made my own version. Best effort/satisfaction ratio by me, making my own spritesheet would take several days of lurking.

Do salespeople at the cyberdome sell miracle level equipment if invested in?

Any way to negate confusion from Uncontroll?

>>17400815
drink a healing potion or vernis original.

>>17400745
I do it sprite by sprite so I don't have to keep editing it when updates and new monsters come out. This way only the ones I want get changed

>>17400828
*for pets.
Since items that prevent confusion have no effect on it, I guess there is no way at all to prevent confusion?

>>17400853
Get 30 (40?) Marksman for Rampage

>>17400943
Do you get 50% str/dex buff with rampage?

>>17400406
I agree, it makes some rare item seems trivial now.
How many evo heart till I start throwing them away?
>>17400745
I started editing one. Very far from finished.

I wish I could get an updated version of this http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:24987
The guy who posted it is obviously japanese. I wonder where he uploads his stuff

>>17401103
You can update it yourself in like 15 minutes. He's also most certainly Chinese, by the way.

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1 ALP left. 1 party spot left. Yes/No?

>>17401103
I'm using half of it in 1.70.1
Only need any image editor with grid and masked layers.

>>17401134
Is this the sprite set that's in the OP? Fuck that's cute

>>17401134
And 50 stacks of gain material scrolls for that chance to get 1 magic ink, still not sure if i should used it or get some actually interesting npc/god instead.
>>17401163
Dunno this sprite set is half-done yet and is made with 5 different sprite sets mixed together

>>17399811
Tieba pack?

>>17399797
True... too bad by default you only have like, male body and female body. I might try some of these PCC packs out, not too sure what those'll change, but one way to find out!

Just discovered the Beautify Elona Plus thing, got excited, then realized it is outdated.

How difficult would it be for a person with absolutely no idea what goes into these packs to learn and update it for 1.68?
Not willing to just give up even though the creator said he likely wouldn't update it, but I'm not sure what I would need to edit/add to make it work.

>>17401406
I meant 1.69/1.70.
Haven't updated my elona+ to 1.70 yet but would if that somehow made fixing Beautify easier.

>>17401406
only need to add new sprites from graphics/map#,face#,items.bmp from original game. Its very simple to do with any editor that supports layers - open modded file, insert non-modded file with the same name from 1.70 below it, on parts where new sprites exist erase modded file's area.

>>17401434
Oh so I just need to edit those .bmp files with gimp or something? Sounds easy enough.

Would I need to go through and add any songs since apparently Beautify also replaces music?
Would anything particularly special or vexing need to be done to handle the nefia fever clock flames?

>>17401504
The flames appear on interface.bmp, same procedure applies.
Just copy em over, or supply your own replacement.

>>17401504
For Evochat sprite, exhentai is a wonderful source, search for chara in the artist cg and game cg section.
The problem is there's too many to choose from.

>>17401504
nefia fewer clock fires is just a small separate area in interface.bmp
nothing else has to be done

>>17400798
Fyi yes, waiting on that living sniper rifle

Oh, and nothing beats Nausicaa's or Kiki's parts from ghibli music pack, FF pack feels really bleak to me after this, although those tracks are the part of the actual game ost.
Ghibli's combat music is a bit meh, tho.

>>17401551
I have never been able to move on from the old-ass RPG music pack, maybe I should give those a try one day.

>>17401551
I'm a fan of the EO music pack, but I like EO in general.

>>17401551
Wild arm music pack for me.
Never played long without it.

>>17401576
>>17401569
Thosse music packs are nice.

But i still prefer returning to Port Kapul to craft, train my pets and res-kill netori personified while listening to the absolutely perfectly fitting sound track for those chill moments.
Derphy's track fits incredibly well, too

One day i'll combine battle/event music from other packs, maybe, and it will be a pure bliss.

About what level should I be running into the Hearts for Pet Evolution? I know it says like, level 29+ mobs, but I'm not really sure when... like in Danger Level 29+ dungeons?

A five head god, but whats this next to it? A shade that turned itself into a five head god? Oh thanks cool

>>17401681
They just want to talk to you Anon.
Don't be rude and listen politely.

>>17401639
yeah. or just get a bit of gold and buy one

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Talk about Nausicaa, Elona really needs those caterpillars to fight meshera menace.(shameless /r/ for sprite/pcc)

>>17401721
Like happy bed, the rare drop boost made them too frequent a drop.
It's not worth paying for one anymore (which is a bad balance move).

>>17401702
You try listening to 10 heads talk at once while 5 more are down the hall yelling about pizza rolls

>>17401763
Nah, look at the big picture, now the door's open to use them in even more recipes

>>17401721
>1.5M gold base price
Y-yeah just a little...

>>17401808
Get a waifu. (S)he will gift you priceless hand-knitted goods daily. Sell this shit in your shop.

If you pick up a high value item (tower shield, fairy hat, bulletproof jacket, etc) and it happens to be perl, don't jump to superior material scroll! perl turns into griffon scale with just one change material scroll, almost tripling the material value modifier.

Can anyone please explain to me why my character is running in place and accepts minimal inputs until it eventually starves to death

>>17401848
All I have is 2 little girls and 2 younger sisters.
I haven't mastered the art of getting any pets that aren't from the Slave Master or from a diary still.

I haven't got a shop yet still. I probably should at some point.

Also I can't, for the love of me, figure out how I'm lugging around like 100s of stuff. I only have 15s equipped! And I don't see enough stuff in my inventory to be the other like 80... blowing my mind.

>>17401894
traveller's food in cargo?
anyway my little girl(first, one and only)'s very first gift was a robe with a worth of around 800k gold
just get her tailoring and carpentry as per easy gene engineering guide from wikia guides section.

>>17401886
This bug is really old but I don't remember why it happens. I've never had this issue. Check this out http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ#Technical
If you look it up you'll probably come across many others who had the same problem

>>17401914
Damn. I hope I can fix it.

>>17401894
in layman's, get knokout and maybe gentle face feats, hit mob with a level equal or lower thn monster ball's until it's hp is close to 0, [T]hrow monster ball at mob. Poison/Bleeding are possible alternatives. Craft your own balls with pot of fusion recipe.

>>17401909
Don't even have anything in cargo. It baffles me. I'll figure it out eventually... maybe.

I should really get Gene Engineering and figure out how to do all that.

>>17401931
Good thing I have a Pot of Fusion at least! I think I need Carpentry still. Haven't gotten a bunch of skills I probably need still. Seems I also have to get Pick Pocket just so I can get a darn Stradavius to spawn.

Gotta say, one big downside to having more then a few pets?

Really tough to feed them. Wish there was an easy way to just give them food, gotta give them those food potentials!

>>17402013

with custom they auto eat any food they are holding.

>>17402238
Oh? So could I just like, stockpile a bunch of food on them, and they'll eat it when they get hungry? It seems in default that doesn't happen, so maybe its something I have to enable...

>>17401251
If you look in the pastebins you will find it, it's a HUGE collection of sprites

Can anyone explain how custom handles Synchro Hearts SA?
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona%2B_special_action_learning#Synchro_Hearts

Can i use it in custom script?
Requirements to use it, if its usable? Like, does it work separately from custom AI or i need to set something like <if player health < 20% blah blah>

>>17402238
Is that what that "eat food from inventory" option does? I thought it meant MY inventory; didn't want pets spontaneously eating my herbs.

>>17403395
No, you got an option as to let pets eat food that is in their inventory, so you can keep one pet as designated food carrier and others as something else.

>>17402840
Alright anon thanks, been digging through some of the other ones as well. Took me a little bit to figure out how to use them properly. Wasn't there some way to turn 'off' armor equips showing up?

Also, where do you put like chara sprites? I don't see an obvious folder to put them in.

>>17403747
user/graphic
name them pic_0 and up for unique sprite.
Isn't is written on the sprite sheet though?

>>17403785
Well I did see a few sprite sheets, and some of the downloads just had individual chara_# files as well.

A bit wary to try a sprite sheet since I'm unsure what it'll do if it tries to spawn a newer NPC or something that doesn't exist on the sprite sheet.

I tried the Moongate pack as well, but that didn't seem to work.

>>17403829
Sprite sheet only replace preexisting creatures.
They can't bake anything in your saves.

How exactly does fever mode work again? Just idle for 10 minutes irl and then it goes off?

>>17404020
It has a chance to happen near the end of every month not divisible by 3.
Basically the opposite of ether wind.

>>17404020
Fever mode is like etherwind, a random world condition.
10 mins is for rare drop flag, which boosts droprate of rare items.

>>17404027
>>17404030
So once Fever mode goes off it's permanent until you quit/crash?

>>17404038
Is Etherwind permanent until you quit/crash? You've got your answer.

>>17404042
>You've got your answer.
Well I got the fever mode on and it's not stopping/going away, so my game is bugged I suppose.

>>17404051
It just lasts at the longest until the end of your current month.
If it lasts longer then yeah, your game is bugged.

>>17404030
Wait there's a rare drop flag?

>>17403747
Dresser to turn off equips
https://pastebin.com/uAVqeTbz recap on how to do everything

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>Tfw got etherwind due to a Ragnarock explosion in a dungeon and it's cutting into Nefian Fever time
>Tfw thinking of leaving the house with a bunch of cure corruption pots and saying fuck it

I thought I was cool for surviving my first Ragnarok without even breaking a sweat but I forgot that Etherwind is bad

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After ~50 realtime hours of playtime, finally a lucky day. I have enough materials to make 300 of every item except those that require leather. 20 treasure maps. 240 casino chips. 96 yen coins. I am going to blast so hard. It's time to reach a new powerlevel. Haaaaaa...AAAAAAAAAA

>>17404184
>240 casino chips
I hope you have a multifloor palace to dump all your loot, gl getting business cards

Do you bet 1 chip or 20?

>>17404248
I always bet 1 because I want max corruption potions, and I feel getting to a business card isn't much less likely by betting 1 rather than 5+, since while the # of wins needed goes down, the # of games you get is massively cut.

However idk if that's the perfect solution, so do what makes you happy

>>17404248
It's better to bet one, because it's essentially 20 cure corruption potions vs minor chance of some good gear, and you can get good gear much more reliably with crafting but can't get cure corruption potions as easily.

>>17404264
And you can never have too many cure corruption potions, because you never know when the Etherwind will blindside you!

Speaking of Etherwind, Ether stuff is completely safe for pets yeah?

>>17404295
Yeah pets are not affected by ether material, etherwind or corruption at all. Also cure corruption potions are very handy to trade for valuable items (e.g. artifact) with adventurers

So how really useful is Pick Pocket? Since its a Thief Guild restricted skill, I'd be more keen on just trying a Thief instead of joining that Guild and not getting access to all three Guild Trainers at my house, and having to change later...

From what I read yesterday, it does seem to be the only way to get a Stradivarius, besides relying on the bards randomly dropping their instrument so a new one will spawn, or getting lucky enough for one of them to initially spawn with it.

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>>17404184
It's going to take me an in-game week to sort through all these crafted items. Going back and forth to empty filled inventory in the shop/storage, each of which was packed quickly, took so much time I didn't even go to the casino. By the time the 1500 turns were over, I still had materials left. At one point I crafted so many spears I couldn't move, but the house had reached the item limit so I couldn't drop them either. Drinking a hero potion luckily took me right to the encumbrance level that I could drag myself to the shop before going at it again

>>17404449
How do you feel about the damage potential of a blank artifact for artifact fusion vs a living weapon? I notice that the only option for extra damage out of a fused weapon is magic damage, which I know is usually better than all other types, but you can also do that with living weapons, no?

>>17404444
>only way to get a Stradivarius,
9000 ticket in south tyris, can be savescummed for quality. (which serves no purpose really.)

>>17404479
I don't think they're on that level of music tickets yet.

>>17404444
Pickpocket is great for:
1) Getting sox (artifact fusion, just stockpile em)
2) Ripping off speed rings
3) FRUIT TREES, YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH
4) Pretty furniture
5) Training dex quickly

When you get tough enough, do your guild Lv40 quest to kill an enemy guild leader; choose Thief guild. Teleport away the guard onthe stairs, put on incognito, go downstairs. Only one that'll fight you with incognito on is Guild leader. They're a bit tough though. THEN with incognito on, talk to the trainer; they'll teach ya pickpocket. Alternatively, teleport the guild leader away from you whenever they get close.

>>17404495
You don't need to be on the quest to sneak in tho, just if you're gonna kill em might as well kill two birds with one encounter

>>17404478
I dunno man, a living weapon might take less effort if you get the right month/enhancement value

>>17404501
Living weapon upgrades depend on the month now?

>>17404508
Yep, it seems to change every single update what the months correspond to.

>>17404508
Yeah there is this table that determines what you can pick from, and it changes per month but also changes depending on the +enchant of the weapon.

>>17404479
Why would you waste tickets on a Strad?
Strad isn't even that good.

Can lucky buffs stack, as in Lucky day, blessed food and statue of Ehekatl?

>>17404552
Different magnitudes of the same buff, so no.

>>17404515
Getting a godly strad was just a collection thing.>>17404508

>>17404566
Aw, so 777 is the highest.

Does Itzpalt feat also increase elemental weapon damage? I know it says spells on the wiki, but the wiki isn't always comprehensive. Also, does something like Magic Damage #### (400) mean deals base 400 extra magic damage or that it adds 40% of weapon damage after applying skills as magic damage, or what? The wiki page "reading damage rolls" explains nothing.

>>17404784
Pretty sure it's spells only, since it increases the size of the dice for those elemental spells. It's not a flat addition.
Magical damage on weapons means that some fraction of your physical damage is also dealt as that elements damage, proportional to the enchant value in some way.
I don't know if the exact formula is anywhere though.

>>17404479
Thing is, to get music tickets you need a good instrument already. I was just gonna wait to get the Stradivarius then get Performing. Like I waited to do Cooking until I could find a Food Processor and turn it into Paper.

>>17404495
I hadn't even known you could use the other NPCs inside the guild hall if you incognito in. Huh. Since I also need to get Magic Control, which is Mages Guild only... I can get it at creation, perhaps, but then I don't have Gardening which makes doing anything to get early platinum a bit trickier.

>>17404878
>Thing is, to get music tickets you need a good instrument already.
Or have Ensemble.
Which makes instruments obsolete, so yeah.

>>17404878
Art of performing->ensemble->strad
Is what I did, though my char is a dinosaur and was able to play her horn initiallly (@theputty ranch...)

>>17404887
Isn't ensemble boosted by instrument now?
Or is it the dance?

>>17404917
Either way it's faster to just get a Grand Piano and throw a single scroll of superior material into it.

Is there an easier way to gain AP on high speed pets? I want to learn some skills for my quickling but tag-teaming with me or my other pets doesn't seem to help.

>>17404945
1. Void
2. Void
3. Always Void

>>17404887
Yeah but to have Ensamble, you have to already have Performing up to 30... which means you needed a good instrument!
(Or I guess, throw your bonus points at it)

Also technically, you don't earn as much coinage using Ensamble.

>>17405030
>you don't earn as much coinage using Ensamble
You're thinking of Fascination Dance. Ensemble earns you MORE rewards.
As far as getting an instrument to begin with, see >>17404924

>>17405030
I put my bonus points into it. Remember to always keep potential as close to 400% as possible and you can almost get one skill level per point

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>>17391684
i have created a custom pcc using this website

http://www.geocities.jp/kurororo4/looseleaf/

however, there appears to be a problem: the bodies from the website appear to be larger than the default body pccs,
causing etc accesories to appear in the wrong place on the characters body.
is there some way to fix this or do i have to draw a pcc from scratch?
pic related is the pcc

>>17405127
It's because the site was for vanilla Elona. Back then all sprites were that size. Since E+, the default sprites and all of the clothes have been changed to be smaller and reworked. So every sprite made for vanilla will have the same problem. Your best bet is either using the new defaults or creating (image editing program) your own.

>>17405138
thanks, will have to try that

>>17405127
There is an option in the options menu somewhere to reduce the size of all PCCs, making ones that size look normal sized. However, this also makes all PCCs designed for E+ much smaller too.

>>17405154
Making your own takes a lot of time though, so what most players do is use a premade custom one collected and put in various packs (check pastebin). You can just use them as a body and turn off the default parts+clothes. It's also easier to just edit one of them.

>>17404816
Neato. I'll do my best to dig it up at some point, but I'm not great at reading this code.

>>17404924
>>17404887
>>17404878
Wait instrument types matter? Like cooking? Didn't you guys say they don't a while bacK?

>>17405198
They do matter, but not for Fascination Dance and maybe? for Ensemble.
Check the wiki page on Instruments for their ranking.

>>17405205
And I kept using a flocking harmonica for performing, Luwly damnit.

We need a kind Anon to finally unweil code part of the ensemble action to determine whether pets actually use instruments or its just another misunderstood line from the changelog.
>>17405205
Grand Piano is still the best, Stradivarius is here only for the sense of accomplishment. Simply use inferior material scroll and carry your own portable monster.

>>17405182
Pastebin packs are horribly mismatched with their sizes though, cant mix them together most of the time.

>all potential at Suberb
>gain 1 attribute point per herb i eat
>picked Juere race

oh boy

>>17405326
Just put a hunger demon from puppy cave to your ranch.

And make a gene for proper masterrace fairy char asap.

>>17405305
Stradivarius also has the 'increases reward' modifier on it though, and weighs a fraction of the weight, even taking into account paper modifier.

I find it quite tedious to manage positive traits from the ether disease. Any tips? Got a couple of shining hedgehogs at my ranch just in case.

>>17405343
I don't think anyone actually know what difference that attribute makes, if any.
And again, by the time you actually get a Strad, the weight of a light material piano is not an issue.

>>17405030
Third option I did. Get performer book, go to Noyel. Devoted all snow days to reading book in inn. Profit.

>>17405343
Does it work for party time ratings? Since thrown rewards are no different from a pile of shit most of the time, and ensemble>fascinating dance transition is inevitable.

>>17405350
Better chance at getting <artifacts> instead of just great items, if I read the code right. Can't be sure, though, since performance code is particularly confusing.

>>17405305
No, they don't use instruments.

>>17405377
I wonder if changelog lies or Ano rolled back that feature. Would it be too much to ask for a piece of code responsible for this? I'd like to take a look at this myself, but still cant figure out how to find such stuff yet.

>>17405397
Such devotion~
That's inspiring, if lacking in color.
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=18366755

>>17405445
His waifu is truly loved.

>>17405397
https://pastebin.com/VmbSSB4m

Here's ensemble. It calls on the regular performing (with ensemble boost though), then goes into hard-to-decipher code of performing itself.

>>17405635
Much appreciated.
Wait wait. Does it use ens mod instead of instrument mode for performing, then?

I wonder if any android code editor/viewer could handle such a big file on tab. It looks like a decent nighttime puzzle.

*anyone got 1.70 source uploaded separately from the game somewhere?

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>>17405686
Nevermind, Bloodyshade's ftp works for me now.
Time to delve in

https://pastebin.com/JyqQz7Td

My answer is so long and weird looking 4chan won't let me post it

>>17405805
Answer to these posts
>>17405686
>>17405635

So, at equal skill ( let's say every attribute and skill maxed ), which activity gives more satisfaction point in party quest ?
Stradivarius, grand piano, ensemble, preaching, captivation dance, love potion..?

>>17405829
Assumingly all NPCs got max satisfaction they are able to contribute to total score. Once you reliably get this score with any of those options, fastest action will be better. Captivation dance is faster than perform/ensemble, forgot about preaching.

>>17405686
It's actually the same performing as with instrument, except without. Instead of getting bonuses from instrument (from carefully checking the code, it looks like they don't exist anyway) you'll get bonuses from your pets' performance skill. You'll also get more rewards with ensemble; more gold (still capped at (NPC level) * 5 for each NPC generous enough) and increased quality of rewards (3 with a 1/3 chance of being 4 if the ensemble isn't shitty, and 3 with 1/20 chance of being 4 if the ensemble is shitty).
ensci's only function is to increase your gold rewards, it seems. inv(25, ci) is quality of the instrument.

>>17405807
Of course I didn't post it; EnsembleStart is custom's code, and it only exists to make you able to share ensemble money with your pets.

>>17405829
At high enough skill they'll all give maximum satisfaction points.

>>17405807
Somehow it looks like ensemble provides substitution for instrument bonus with a limit of 300 instead of 200something for normal instruments, but its mostly a wild guess of mine.
There are weird checks which i cant understand at all.
I wonder if i'll get thru source.hsp text search before falling asleep...

>>17405882
Ok, then it doesn't work in either