エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General

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>>17352726
Explain further.

>>17352726
Man, Parfait is such a good game, kamige even.

Is it ok to talk about VNs that originally came out in English but were later untranslated into Japanese?

>>17352369
Why would you advertise it as "last game in the series" anyway? You're blocking yourself from making any money from that series in the future, how is that desirable?

>>17352492
I'm assuming these videos are recorded in dev machines, so even devs playtest with this insane lag and don't feel like maybe they should optimize the damn thing?

>>17353040
Going in and optimizing an inefficient piece of software is not always easy, and developer time is limited and expensive.

Speaking of Parfait, does anyone have a download link? I've been trying to find it from nyaa, animesharing, and obscure chinese websites, but everything was dead. Which is strange for such a profilic game.

>>17353803
>obscure Chinese websites
https://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=1369752137&uk=4261503633
If you can't find anything else, maybe try this. Some people report issues with unzipping though. Parfait.exe opens the Japanese version while 帕露菲.exe is for the Chink version.
The game's also on AnimeBytes if you have an account.

>>17353803
Use the torrent for giga games pack and not the parfait ones.

>>17352970
If Rea's route wasn't so crap I'd agree, what a waste of a great girl.

>>17353026
Yes. I'm currently writing a new VN called "Dies irae".

>>17353980
I heard of that one

>>17353986
Yeah, it's pretty old. But I'm making a VN based on it.

>>17352726
So the steam version of Symphonic Rain has a Japanese language option apparently. Does anyone know a link that isn't a virus? I found this one but I wanted to ask here first
http://igg-games.com/symphonic-rain-free-download-2.html

>>17354092

http://store.steampowered.com/app/654880/

http://www.waffle1999.com/game/74kyonyu3if/

Is anyone caught up on Flowers? Wondering if it's worth it with the series coming to a close soon. It looks

nice but I fell for the "nice visuals, boring story" trap one too many times.

>>17354795

I liked the first game well enough, until I hit the ending. That was so dumb, I'm still not sure I want more. Probably not though.

>>17354823
I heard the sequels are a big improvement.

>>17354802
>Tfw was reading Hoshi Ori
>Lost all will to finish it and play VNs in general
I don't care about catching fishes or leaking aquarium goddamit.

>>17354849
We warned you.

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>>17354849
Why the fuck do you play slice-of-life waifu game in the first place if you can't enjoy mundane group activities with your chosen waifu?

>>17354849
The visuals aren't even that good.

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>>17354795
I'm hyped.

In the Spring chapter, Rikka isn't exactly the most pleasant girl. Then there's the incredible and shameful cliffhanger with Mayuri's route. Why was that done like that? Well, obviously to hook you through all the season until the final Winter chapter. They (I.G.) got a lot of shit because of that. Have in mind, those episodes are priced around half what costs a full game, at about 4800 yen each. Yet, in duration, they are almost like a fully featured game. Almost smashed the box in the trashbin, because I didn't expect having to bother with a cliffhanger for years. But again, they did the same shit or worse with Kara no Shoujo.

The Summer episode, centered around Erika, was gold. A full pleasure to read. Maybe a bit slow at the start, it really catches on fire after the introductions. They step it up a lot in number of scenes and CG. It includes a theatrical representation of Rapuntzel and a ballet very nicely done of The Sleeping Beauty. Mayuri is still awol, but Suou is very present during the whole chapter (poor Suou is a depressive trainwreck, but still provides for some very interesting developments). In this chapter, another character is introduced at the start, Chidori, who becomes Erika's mutual love interest thanks to the nun's deed who decided to pair them up as Amitié. It starts with a very rough relation that wraps up progressively. At this point I knew the series was saved.

The third chapter centers around Yuzuriha, the doubtlessly best character in all the series. Smart and talkative without being cocky as Erika was, yet witty and fun. A Sun that delivers life wherever she breathes. This chapter truly resurrect the series from its initial letdown and made people to come back to it, as the devs themselves acknowledged. It also provides even more CG.

Nothing is known about the Winter chapter. Absolute secretism other than it will give conclusion to Suou and Mayuri's route.

Two and three are more or less standalone. It seems, after the first chapter, someone caught the writer and the whole team by the balls and told them to step it up, and they did so. They also survived these years thanks to their events and the Manyo concerts.

The best part? The drawings and the music. Some more elaborated CG events at the second episode.
The worst part? Episodic all ages yuri. And the writing; difficult to explain. Its strongest point is the elaborated writing style yet it's also its weakest point because the dumb author introduces so many tryhard stupid anachronistic jokes and references. But nothing is worse than the fuck-it cliffhanger at the first chapter. Still it will depend on how the last chapter is delivered and so far there is reason for optimism.

>>17354932
>cliffhanger

I think those are supposed to make you interested in a sequel, and not make you never want to touch the series again.
Honestly I don't care about a cliffhanger. I never really did. Yet, while during my time reading it, I was always thinking of continuing reading the series, but once I got the ending, all interest evaporated in an instant. By now I have somewhat forgotten, why it was so terrible, but regardless... there was a lot more wrong with that ending than just being a cliffhanger.

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Kukuri a cute, A CUTE!

>>17355231
I've been putting that off for months. Something else always distracts my dick. Cute chest, though.

>>17355789
It's written by Banya though? Also AKB are bound to be shit, no matter who writes them

>>17355800
Yes I made a mistake, leaving AKS behind, a dark nukige where you have sex for money and power is always intersting to read. In 手垢塗れの堕天使
you play as male MC with a low self esteem this time, and the main heroine is the idol. What will the idol get from having sex with him? Is going to be the intersting part.

>>17355829
>What will the idol get from having sex with him?
Protag got plastic surgery so he looks like an ikemen, that's why the girls like him. I found him insufferable as he still behaves like an ultra beta and the two H scenes (more like one and half) weren't even that hot. Probably won't check the full game

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7 more.

>>17355829
>What will the idol get from having sex with him?

Probably children.

Is there actually a pregnant idol game already? Not one where you make them pregnant and destroy them or whatever, one where the girls are pregnant and they HAVE to be so, to stay idols, as that's part of their success? Would be kinda funny, as that'd be the complete 180° of the normal idol scene.

>>17355909
That seems extremely realistic, plastic surgery won't fix your personality even if it stems off being ugly.

Opinions on 何処へ行くの、あの日?

>>17356325
good

>>17356330
hmm, can you elaborate?

>>17356325
I didn't love it, game made me feel sticky

>>17356353
just read EGS reviews, or better yet, don't, and play it blind

>>17356325
The only good Kure game.

>>17356469
i see you haven't played あした出逢った少女

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Because of ad:lib actually having a release this month as well, I figured I'd go back to dokodona and play some other routes aside of the one I did last year. I also read (most) of common again. The game pretty nicely reminded me, why it's so nice and in a way also different from typical moege. The whole scene with the protag's friend surrounding the birthday worries in Tsubasa's route are absolutely gold. Best stuff I've read in a moege in a while, and it didn't even involve a heroine. The game really isn't afraid to show, how little freedom one has with a girlfriend. Wait, both girlfriends are doing something with their friends? FREEDOM!
Everything past that is for the most part good comedy. Though the friend is generally pretty nice. Helps, that Tsubasa is his sister, and that's a rather normal brother sister relationship. Something you normally don't really get so see in VNs either. She has her ways to make her brother do, what she wants... especially after he got his girlfriend, which just happens to be her best friend. It's.. something else.

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>>17356880
Yeah I really liked Tsubasa, the 4-way hangouts were surprisingly really fun. Made me wish they didn't magically make everyone else in a game disappear once you get on the girl's route in a lot of other games. Plus she's a cutie. Reminds me of Iroha from Oregairu.

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Just finished twincest route and it was fucking lovely, Miu is miracle of modern moe-engineering. And fucked up in the head just the way I like it. I really hope the other routes are even remotely as good.

If I have to bitch, there was maybe a little too much porn, but at least it felt relationshippy instead of cheap excuses to get the reader to crank one out. And I guess that nebulous quality of "really good but missing that indefinable something keeping it from being amazing" but I should read the rest of it before passing judgement.

Soundtrack is just gorgeous.

>>17358552
I have always wanted to play this because of the summer feel and good art and BGM. But then I remeber the horrible bland writing and stop.

Does anyone know where to find the 3 DLCs (append patches) for royal garden?

Why do eroge use so heavy censors compared to eromanga?

Can someone upload 手垢塗れの堕天使 trial on mega?

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Done with Pastel Chime 3. (hard route)

At the end I didn't really bother with the plot anymore, as it's just retarded. Whatever you fight, there's some kind of betrayal or mindcontrol involved. Either your enemy is betrayed by their "boss", or your characters are betrayed by someone who then is your enemy. At one point even your characters are betrayed by someone, who is betrayed by someone, who is also betrayed by someone. It's utterly retarded, really.
As such, the enemies aren't worth talking about. Yet the game acts as if it was. The actual bad guys are too shallow to care about, the other ones were only fooled anyway. There's literally 0 interesting conflict in this game.
It's sad. The game is obviously inspired by Persona, but completely failed at the story part. In Persona 4 you may not have much of a story, but at least you are dealing with inner conflicts of characters for a good chunk of the game. Obviously betrayal and such isn't necessarily bad if it happens, but if literally EVERY enemy is in some way either betrayed/controlled or betrays someone (or both at the same time!), it gets retarded.

But at least you have the "s-links". Those are varying in quality. If they try too much story, it gets retarded, otherwise you can have some good fun. This is also where randomly best girl of the game appears, as a minor side character. (Botan)
These are very badly connected with the main-story, which isn't so different in Persona, but here they are quite a bit longer. Gives in part a weird feeling. You don't actually have to even see ero-scenes with at least Lilly to get her ending. I'd assume that's similar to all but one of the other heroines. Getting their link towards the ero has no gameplay advantage anymore either, and is fairly costly, too. That's where NG+ comes into play. Aka, have fun replaying shit to see more scenes here.

The gameplay is also rather wonky. The stats are an unbalanced mess. Def doesn't do anything, which pretty much leads to a domino effect. It's also incredibly minimalistic and kinda boring. +5% physical damage here, -5% magical damage taken there, or how about +10% hit chance? Yeah, thanks. I'm so excited. I suppose that makes balancing things easier. Binds level up based on the character level, which means you can't grind a low level bind later on, which is another crappy design decision. Speaking of binds, there's nowhere near enough. At the second half of the game, you get way too little, plus some just suck as, again, anything defensive is useless. Obviously no fusion to really customize your abilities or whatever either.
Elements and whatnot also give persona vibes, but are also minimalistic. Resistance lowers damage a little bit, weakness raises it. But really just like 20% or something. Null... nulls damage, and reflect reflects. But I've never seen that. Why? Because you ALWAYS see resistances. So why would you ever hit something with an element that'd get reflected or nulled? They really didn't think things through.
Finally there are too many item cheats. Characters can equip up to three consumable items, and some are dumb. Tension+ and damage+ (for one attack) come to mind. Cheap and OP as fuck.


Plus Disc I'll not be playing. Supposed to be mostly ero. I'll check NG+, but I think I'm done. Doubt there's much reason to play on, given that I don't care about more s-link scenes and there probably only being old battles with higher stats as additional challenges. It was still.. kinda enjoyable, but I can't recommend this.

Is 9-nine-ここのつここのかここのいろ on nyaa? I can't find it but I'm retarded.

>>17359352

I just searched for ここのつここ and it was there.

>>17359401

I see now, thanks, I'm retarded.

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Low resolution pictures from Light's new Sora no Baroque

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>>17354932
Is there actual romance in Flowers? I like yuri but I avoid yuri VNs because I get the impression a lot are either just subtext or not very good.

>>17359544

Yes, but it's constrained by being all ages so it lacks the hot passion of the bodies interweaving. The story provides for reason to halt further development beyond the initial romance phase, which can be bad in some cases. On the other hand, you avoid (unnecessary?) fanservice scenes, although the author cannot avoid fanservice retorts in the text. It doesn't get to a Sarah Waters level, to be clear about its quality.
You could define two parts in a Flowers chapter. The first part or common route has the main character playing the role of Sherlock Holmes, solving a case under the theme of The Seven Mysteries adapted to the school setting. The second part then proceeds to develop the romance until the point where it gets cockblocked. Is it worth it? Depends how the romance between Suou and Mayuri gets solved in the final chapter. But there is no reason to assume it will be any different than a satisfactory end that stops at the height of the romantic peak, before it gets the opportunity to develop into more vulgar content. All ages, mannnnn.

>>17359682
It being all ages is one of the reasons I'm actually interested in it to be honest.

>>17353891
No kidding.
>Rea has to/decides to return to the main Curio store which is at a 2-hour train distance from MC's home
>MC obviously gets mad at her but everything is relatively normal so far
>MC starts getting home late for a few nights and one morning Yui (Rea's sister) leaves a phone message to go out with MC, while Rea was in his room
>Yui gets flustered when Rea picks up the call and hangs up
>Rea starts to suspect an affair and gets flustered, MC gets distant
>Rea starts crying her eyes out every night and can't focus well on her job, her shop manager​ threatens with giving her the boot
>MC says he has something to tell her, she thinks he's breaking up with her
>No, it's a fucking RUSE to make her realize that MC is more important to her than her job and convince her to not return to the main store
>Everyone, including her fucking sister who had just recently reconciled with Rea, was in on it

>>17359682
I don't mind all ages, I'm just too used to proper relationships in my VNs that stopping at JUST GOOD FRIENDS wouldn't feel rewarding.
From what you're saying it sounds like something I'd like. I'll wait for the last volume before starting. Thanks.

>>17359700
It's made for you, then.
The only people who got angry are the old fans who came from previous I.G. works expecting a full self contained visual novel (i.e. non episodic), sex and gore galore.
Also, episodes Summer and Autumn are independent enough by themselves. It's only the first one that has the cliffhanger in the Suou route.

>>17359731
>I'm just too used to proper relationships in my VNs
I wouldn't call H-scenes for the entire route a proper relationship, but whatever floats your boat.

Could somebody upload a crack for kkk?

>>17359787
Well I'm going off my own experience here. I avoid VNs like that.

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What VNs have heroines like #1?

>>17359499
>>17359505
>>17359509
>>17359513
Looks like some random otome game.

>>17360193

Just like Dies Irae. That was also an otome game. All those fujoshi shipping the dudes.

>>17359830

1? Where's 6?

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>>17360250
Yui from Flyable Heart?

>>17354092

I tried getting a torrent from nyaa but I can't change the language to Japanese :/

>>17359830
Why do Japanese girls think a grumbling tummy is embarassing?

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And done with Tsubasa's route in Dokodona. Well, that ended abruptly. At first I though, it'd be a bit more of a normal route, as it started pretty "normal", but in the end I'm not sure if it was much longer than Ishi's route. Just different. This simple had no final drama arc or anything.
Still fun, and in typical Dokodona way it made me think once more, what most moege do wrong. And in this case: Family. Tsubasa herself may be a fun girl herself (though my heart still belongs to Ishi), but what makes her special is her brother and to an extend also her best friend. The brother, also the best friend of the protag, is actually a really great character and due to the obviously coming familiar ties with him and his girlfriend it's just something else.

Most moege simple focus so much on the girl, that they completely forget everything else. Sure, sometimes that makes sense. Ishi for example also doesn't have much of a family she brings with her. But in exchange, the mother of the protag has a major role in that route, which was also nice. As simple as Dokodona kinda is, strangely enough it does so many things that should be normal, but for whatever reason aren't. Will be interesting to see, if the next ad:lib title holds up with this. But before that, I'll probably still do Abe's route and round it off with another playthrough of Ishi's. Ageishi and the teacher aren't my thing. Although I wouldn't be surprised, if there's some good stuff in those routes as well...

>>17360420
>Japanese girls
Anime girls. Do you think Japanese girls like being petted too?

>>17360420
Because it applies that girls have a digestive system, which they do not have because that's embarrassing.

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Last 6 with Renfa!

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>>17360516

Wait, they don't?

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Are you guys ready for the best release of the year in a week?

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>>17356059
Well of course there is
https://vndb.org/v5486

>>17352726
Anyone know where I could download Paradise Lost and Kajiri Kamui Kagura? Been looking everywhere for a download.

>>17361013
Is that a trap or a futa?

>>17361124
Trap

>>17361166
Also acceptable

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Is there an updated version of this document?

New SMEE, are you ready?

http://www.hook-net.jp/smee/makinglovers/teaser.html

>>17361366
Is there a site that posts all new announcements or something?

>>17361366
Depend on the artist, if he is the guy from their last game then personally not that much hyped.

>>17361013
>>17361124
>>17361166
How come traps are pretty popular in eroge but there are rarely gay scenes? Crossdressing is inherently gay so I don't see how you can like one without liking the other

>>17361496
Denial I guess.

>>17361496
Because eroge is extremely standard when it comes to H-scenes. Basically every H-scene boils down to blowjob, titjob, or vaginal sex. Anything that breaks that mold will threaten and intimidate most otaku. Gay traps are more likely to be in doujin games.

>>17361496
There were a couple of proper ones in tantei seven and it was even more of a reason to be hated.

>>17361579
There was a trap in Tantei Seven?

CUTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjU-Omy_1Zk

How do I finish eroge faster?
There's so many things I want play, but I'm afraid I'll miss the discussion.

>>17361791
Read more instead of shitposting. Disable internet.

>>17361791
don't read things like they're a list you gotta check off, you dork. read something because you enjoy it and want to see how it ends. otherwise you might as well just hold down the ctrl key and make up your own story from the CG gallery.

read what you want and then talk about it after, chances are someone on here'll want to talk about it too.

>>17361820
The thing is next week a bunch of games are coming out that I want like Bimen, Hikari no umi, hatsujou sprinkle, ouchi.
I really can't play them all at the same time. Yet I want to experience them all and discuss when it happens.
Not only that but there's games from this year I have yet to finish like TanteiSeven and SuisouGinka.
I want to take my time but can't keep up with new releases.

>>17361820
What if it's something that's already been translated? Or is going to be soon?

>>17361861
Why would that matter?

>>17361874
Where do you think we are?

>>17361883
The untranslated VN thread. So again, why would that matter?

>>17361861
I don't really read things in Japanese that are translated to English, I play them in English.
That said I barely read any VNs in English.

Someone dump KKK for us.

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>>17361859
well I can virtually guarantee the discussion for biman is going to be pretty much limited to 'muh dick.'

thing is no one else can really keep up with all the new releases either so we just pick one or two (if any). or simply wait until opinions trickle in from everyone else. though christ, there's probably only like what, two dozen regulars in these threads?

anyway. most everyone else is in the same boat and so will probably be willing to discuss these things for quite some time after they come out. the only real alternative is that you skim through it and thus barely even get to get in on the discussion.

just relax, mate. pick a thing you want to read and there'll likely be other people playing it at the same time. the things you don't get around to until later, people will probably still want to talk about when you're done. or you might find out it actually sucked ass and so you get to dodge the bullet.

>>17361073
This kkk dl works https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/67087
When you check nyaa make sure you're on sukebei and try downloading things even if the site says that they have 0 seeders.
They're both on animebytes if you're able to get an account there.

>>17361380
I usually use this one http://blog.livedoor.jp/twode_perf/

Honestly I don't remember the last time I played and finished a title on its release day. Usually I just wait for people's opinions and/or EGS before playing unless it's from a studio I'm familiar with.
There are too many decent to great titles in my backlog and time is limited that I can't really risk going through stuffs that might turn out to be garbage.

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Come on Japan, someone among the 127 million people living there must know English.

>>17362659
I don't know the context, but I don't see what's engrishy about that, assuming she's actually taking pudding to someone.

>>17362728
She's asking how long does the pudding last. I get what she meant by keep but it sounds really wrong.

>>17362758
Looks like one of the 127 million people in Japan is better at English than you are.

>>17362758
"Keep" is the correct word in this context (when referring to the food remaining in a good/fresh condition).

>>17362758
that's a legit and common way to say that, friend. in fact you wouldn't say last unless say the pudding was getting slowly eaten by someone along the way.

>>17362758
>I get what she meant by keep but it sounds really wrong.
Well it's correct English, nonetheless.

>>17361271
I think these are the same polls: https://www18.atwiki.jp/2chbesteroge/

>>17362827
It's not common though.
Even if you google it Google's results will give you 'last' instead of 'keep'.

>>17362869
It may not be common to kids raised on the internet with limited vocabulary.

>>17362879
Find me something beside that picture that uses keep like that.
I doubt you'd find much, if at all.
I've even seen foetid used more than that.

>>17362894
>seen
Talk to real people. Watch actual live action. Get off the internet.

>>17362797
>>17362825
>>17362827
>>17362832
No fucking way it's common but alright it's correct English. Must be a regional thing.

>>17362904
Find then show me a live action show that uses. A cooking show that uses it.
Most cooking shows I know use rotten or before it goes bad or stale.

Also
>seen
>watch
okay

>>17362659
>keep
If she's supposed to sound formal/polite/proper, then that's acceptable.

>>17362758
>last
If she's supposed to sound formal/polite/proper, then that's too casual.

>>17362918
>keep
>d (1) : to cause to remain in a given place, situation, or condition keep him waiting (2) : to preserve (food) in an unspoiled condition

It's the grammatically correct way to say it and I've personally heard it and used it many times.

>anecdotal evidence
finding the right combination of quote marks to google this shit is a pain so that is the most effort I'm willing to put into this.

>>17358552
I was considering reading that but most things I see say its shit and the writing is horrible. Miu looks mega cute though and I like twincest so I'm tempted to do it anyway.

>>17362945
My point wasn't that it's not proper English.
My point was it's rarely used.

>>17362958
I dunno where the horrible part comes from, I mean it's not winning any awards but it's not offensive either. Serviceable, I guess? It's no Hapymaher at least.

I honestly have no idea why. Maybe one of the other routes is the literary equivalent of a wet cockslap to the face.

>>17362912
>regional thing
Dude what are you on?

>>17362971
and mine is that it isn't rarely used either. i don't know where you live, but if i were to use it in conversation with anyone around here no one would even lift an eyebrow.

it does tend to be used with certain types of food that go bad in certain types of ways. that pudding for instance obviously isn't going to go rotten on the way to her friend's house, it'll just separate or get squishy or something that will change its condition.

>>17362945
"doesn't keep for"
"won't keep for"
"long do they keep"
Just search for how it'd be used.

I did Yurugi's route in SuisouGinka
Is her route meant to be this short?
I finish it in about 25 minutes without CTRL.
The sex was sudden and forced in.
There wasn't much icha other than during sex and over kinda poorly done.

What happened?
Did another person write this part?

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>>17363097
Also just started Yuura's route and this bit is killing me inside.

>>17363097
welcome to this writer's side routes. I think he actually does outsource the porn to an intern or something, they usually barely even remember the personality the girl is supposed to have. i don't remember it being THAT short, but it's definitely not long.

>>17363109
and yeah, don't think you're gonna get away drama-free.

>>17363142
It hurts more since she's best girl, but yeah maybe it was a bit longer like 30 minutes, maybe a bit more?

>>17363097
>>17363167
All side routes kind of suck, you might want to ctrl through them. The main branch is the important part of the game.

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>>17363167
I know, right? She deserved better, even if she didn't really have much to do with the main plot.

>>17363188
How bad are they? I thought some of KamiMaho's side routes were pretty good, are they much worse than them?

>>17362993
Not that anon, but I agree that it isn't that rare. I would bet it's been years since I've used that word with that meaning but like you said no one will think twice about it if I did.

Let this be a reminder not to question japanese english when you don't have a good understanding of it yourself.

>>17363363
To be fair to that anon 99.9% of the time their English is shitty. So if they used something that isn't commonly said where he lives then it's logical to assume the nips are at it again.

>>17363097
You can just skip all routes and miss nothing in the true apparently

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>>17363363

>>17363363
>>17363666

Japanese English in VNs are is art.

Does anyone have a download link to SNuff FLag - あるいは睡蓮へ光が射すように

>>17363709
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ171393.html

>>17363714
>1,890円

>>17363718
Yup, what a steal. It's 30% off too right now, don't miss it!

>>17363923
Triggered ESL in action.

>>17363939

It's out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJur8wpfYM

>>17363939
About 10 years ago in fact. But don't worry, it'll keep.

>>17363930
Not him but it really isn't common like at all, sure people won't be confused, but it's seldom used.

>>17363963
Damn that's nice

>>17363973
Not true, I see it used all the time.

>>17363963
That doesn't even sound like Japanese...

>>17364116

It's why this is the wrong thread for Dies Irae and we talk about it. It's originally latin. Everything else is just translations.

>>17363973
>but it's seldom used
"seldom used" is seldom used.

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Anyone got a NoDVD patch for Baldr Sky 1? All the Korean and Chinese ones aren't working - still get the insert DVD error

>>17364613
You're supposed to combine them and launch from Dive2. AlphaROM works.

>>17364613
Look for
(NoCD Patch) AlphaROM 3.2 ジャンゴ型汎用 rev2

>>17359812
alpharom

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The heroine perspective stories aren't by Romeo but what about 'After Story' and 'Cross†'Channel' (the bottom right two)?

>>17364684
Tower of friends is by Romeo.

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Last 5 days, almost there!

>>17352726
>What are you looking forward to?
I'm looking forward to Dies irae being released.

>>17364694
Is that the 'Cross†'Channel' story? I can't seem to find トモダチの塔 anywhere in the game. Is it even included in Final Complete?

>>17365021
No. You shouldn't be touching Final Complete at all in the first place.

>>17365021
It is, can't remember the name but it starts with Taichi riding his bike.

>>17365021
I'm 80% sure Cross†'Channel is tower of friends. I lost my save data so I can't look at the extras again to check, but I remember the prime being the main indicator of tower of friends.

>>17365021
>>17366378
Yes, it is. Originally it was released in CC artbook.

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>>17365029
why? new cgs look good and new content even if not by romeo still seems interesting

>>17352726
Is Ushinawareta Mirai etc etc worth a read?
The anime's 1st episode caught my eye that CG though

>>17366895
It's not exactly good but depending on your tolerance and how much you want to masturbate to the art it could be bearable.

>>17366916
This is pretty accurate.

>>17366916
>bearable
How does it fuck up?
Well, I was more interested in the story.

What are some games that you have to play with a guide? Games that, even though were clearly meant to be read in certain order, the developers for some reason didn't enforce it.

Also, what are some games that you should not play with a guide, for whatever reason?

>>17367646
On a related note, I have an urge to always read with a guide no matter what because I'm afraid of missing a CG or nice scene in a route, but at the same time I feel like that could be spoiling the experience with some games, especially if the choice/mystery is supposed to be part of the fun (like in a mystery-based VN).

Anyone else have/had this problem? How do you deal with it? One blind run, then follow a guide for the remaining routes/endings, or what?

>>17367646
>What are some games that you have to play with a guide?
A fuck ton. Though rather than "have to" it's more the fact that it's more convenient and the system is shitty designed. Like YU-NO.

>Also, what are some games that you should not play with a guide, for whatever reason?
Tototo, or a classic dating sims like Doukyuusei. In the former because of spoilers, in the latter to truly get into the feel of real dating. Also I'd say stuff with flowcharts like Appliques games are better played without a walkthrough.

>>17367646

You should never touch Magical Charming without a guide. You may just end up hating yourself and the game. Although I personally didn't like what I've read of the "true route" anyway. Even WITH a guide, it was a major pain in the fucking ass, and the story wasn't my thing either.

Similarly, Chaos;Child. In this case it's more because experimenting is the worst thing ever with its skipping speed and possible crashes. Even following the guide at seiya will have you skip around 5 hours to see everything. And you obviously can't just do something else, you get relatively frequent shit where your input is needed in some way.

Seisai no Resonance has a not locked true route. I don't think it's a good idea to play it first. Don't need to do it last either, but.. yeah. Second time and onwards you can skip gameplay, which I think you want in the true route. Also if you want to read other routes, you should probably do it before.

>>17367713
>I don't think it's a good idea to play it first
Why not? Or rather than first I wanted to make it the only route I played when I get around to it.

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It is a shame that Satou-san (I mean Satouin of course) doesn't have a route. She's smart, levelheaded and cute but stuck in position of side-character. Inui Saki ("archrival" of the game) got the same treatment but she'll get a route in sequel at least. This situation isn't that rare and I can remember many other examples of great side-girls but it is always pains my heart.

>>17367798
I can hear the OHOHOs from here. Fuck it's been forever since I found a good ojou route.

>>17367779

Well, it's the true route, so it'll feel rather weird to do other routes afterwards. Some may not care too much about that, but yeah.. it has all you'd expect a true route to have.

Then the aforementioned gameplay. I still don't know if something was bugged, or if the chosen difficulty somehow changed because I played some other mode at some point or whatever, but the last battle in my first route was a bitch on "easy". You essentially could only get "hit" once without dying. I've never seen anyone else having had that big of an issue, so I wouldn't be surprised if something got messed up for me in SOME way, but yeah.

Finally it's about atmosphere and such as well. I feel like going a more "normal" way first is an advantage. Why is kinda a spoiler, but it's probably at its best if you come from Yuu's route, like I did, and you actually like Yuu at least well enough. But regardless of that, it's a clear "final" thing to do, in my opinion. The roommate way may work better, as that's a more "normal" view on things you get, that is lacking in the true one.
That said, if you actually play it blind, it's not like you'll really have the choice. The game has a good amount of kinda blind choices, and the initial branch is old rpg style questions you get, as in "this is the situation, what would you do?". It's actually kinda cool, as it's about partnering girls and finding out their affinities towards each other, but.. yeah. You have three possible partners you can get there. That roughly defines which routes in the end are possible. I'd just do the questions honestly and roll with what you get. If it allows you the true route.. so be it I guess?

>>17367667
I used to do one blind run first, but then I played Steins;Gate 0 and got the Altair end on my first run. It was super anti-climactic and then Mother Goose and Automaton just weren't as good. Reading only Stardust at the end felt really empty.
Honestly, it pretty much ruined my experience with the game and now I can't play anything without a guide

>>17367713
>And you obviously can't just do something else, you get relatively frequent shit where your input is needed in some way.
I had it up on my second monitor so I could go do other stuff and look back whenever I needed to make a choice. Still a disaster, although not as bad as the atrocity that was Chaos;Head's choice system.

And I read the Seisai no Resonance true route (normal ending) first, it's okay to play first I think, it doesn't really have any major reveals that negatively affect your experience of the other routes. The main issue is doing the good ending has slightly less impact if you've left a long gap between reading the rest of the route. I'd just do what >>17367842 recommended and play blind.

>>17367857

Damn, that reminds me the worst case of "NEED GUIDE" I've ever encountered, including "it kinda ruined the game for me": Virtue's Last Reward.

That game allows you to freely jump around the flowchart, but in exchange, it has one million "half endings", which you can get past with a certain item or information you get from another branch. This is so heavy, that you can't even finish the game without that happening once. And the content past the "to be continued" ending is generally short and not very impressive either.
If that wasn't bad enough I then ended up in a branch where I needed a password or something, and the protag was like "if I think just a little more, I should get it. I feel like I should know this!". So I was sitting there and thought and tried and eventually gave up and looked online. Game lied. I rage quit.

Honestly, the biggest complaint people had about 999 was the awful coffin ending. And what did they do in the sequel? Make every branch into one, AND lie to the player? Holy shit. It's one of the worst VN game designs I know. I only don't call it the worst, because something like Root Double does exist...

>>17367909
Wasn't that kinda the point of VLR though? That you're supposed to be jumping all around the timeline, and you have the actual plot-related ability to jump to anywhere on the flowchart and progress as far as you can from there. I don't recall having had any problem with it since 999 basically spelled it out that the plot requires player input because you yourself are a character.

>>17367798
how easy is aokana for a newbie trying not to be an EOP?

>>17367976
how easy is it for you to read that screenshot?

>>17367963

It was done absolutely horribly though. The branches are short anyway, with some endings being so abrupt, I'm not sure why they even exist like that. The game always cuts away if things get interesting. Getting back later killed the flow and you just have some 10 minutes of whatever to read. And it then lies in regards to what you can do and what you can't.

The story can be quite nice at times, but I still feel like they did literally everything they could to not have it be like that. The problem is also, that certain solutions just don't work because they aren't the one the game wants, even though they work just as much. But that's a general problem with games like VLR I guess. I mean, I know I had really bad luck with my blind choices. It should not happen though. You should at least not get told you can solve something you can't.

>>17368010
I mean I'm obviously not reading at fluent/native speeds, but I can understand it just fine. Is that representative of the difficulty as a whole?

>>17368011
But 999 was all about learning thing in one branch and using it in another. I think you may have just misinterpreted what they said by "if I think just a little more, I should get it. I feel like I should know this!" They wanted you to go try another branch without stating it outright since it's not something Siggy was supposed to know at that point.

Though I dunno why I'm defending it, VLR was pretty weak and really only served to cement my suspicions that Uchikoshi a) only knows how to write one plot with the same one twist and b) had no intention whatsoever of tying up any plot threads related to 999. Didn't touch ZTD and from everything I've heard I made the right choice.

>>17368026
probably? i don't know, i've never read it. but if you can understand a random page that isn't all ...s and uus then you're probably okay.

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I just had the ultimate choice.

Did anyone here played Green Green here? I'm interested in playing it just for the Futaba, but seems like there is a route for her at both of first and third game. Is the third game's one the continuation of first game, or is it something completely different than first game's futaba route?

Also which other heroines are worth of playing?

>>17368064
>that last page
you flew too close to the sun, icarus-nii-chan.

>>17361366
Nice bar background.
I'm hoping for non-highschool setting.

>>17368497
Most likely part-time workplace like in Loverable and Pure x Connect.

>>17368064
wtf picked up

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Am I losing out on much by skipping Asuka's route in Himawari? It feels like most of the things were explained, though I did take a while to finish 2048/Aqua's route so there might be some plot threads I forgot about. I just don't like Asuka or Akira at all and would prefer not to bother with them unless I'm missing something really worthwhile by skipping it.

>>17368812
This is the equivalent of skipping Rea's route in Dies Irae, or Suzuno's route in Flyable Heart, or Shizuka's route in Harukuru, or Heaven's Feel.

Hello /jp/ I don't much about VNs but is there a vanilla romance involving a lot of blushes, cuddles, unintentional happenings and ichaicha?

Most stuff does it haphazardly, or has some other overarching plot that is a hindrance to or just gets in the way of it.

>>17367707
>a classic dating sims like Doukyuusei
No way. Doukyuusei is less of 'Dating Sim' and more of 'Stalking Simulator', both of Doukyuusei games are pain in the ass to go through without any walkthrough whatsoever. Always use walkthrough for that.

Kakyuusei however, the easier girls can be earned without walkthrough and has actual dating mechanics in it instead of date from triggering event flags. It should be played without walkthrough for the first time, then use walkthrough to get the missing CGs/get the harder girls with bizzare event flags.

>>17363709
What is that, some doujin game? Looks kind of cool. A shame it only has 6 downloads after a few weeks. Might get it in a few weeks when I'm done with everything I'm playing.

>>17368064
That maid looks cute as fuck and I would love to be called her baka aniki. Is her route okay?

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Dammit bro, I'm glad that you helped the project with your girlfriend and you're both loving each other, but control the impulse you maniac.

>>17368092
No one? I thought it was pretty famous at the older days.

>>17369112
>Why do you even reply to EOPs?
boredom or fun
take your pick
Also why are you so angry how does this affect you?

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Also Marika's dad best tsundere. I wish he has his own sprite.

>>17368925
>>17368925
>then use walkthrough to get the missing CGs/get the harder girls with bizzare event flags
Well that's your problem. You play like a collector instead of just going with the flow and acting as you would. I think the games entirely lose the point and fun with a walkthrough, but whatever floats your boat. Doukyuusei isn't even that hard without a 攻略.

>>17367707
>and the system is shitty designed. Like YU-NO.
How bad is it? I heard somewhere that the system is quite interesting so I was planning to play it sooner or later.

>>17369401
You should play it anyways because it's a great game. I think what you heard about might be the dialogue options. That part is fine. The jewel save system however... just don't play the game without a walkthrough.

>>17369385
>You play like a collector instead of just going with the flow and acting as you would.
Anon, nobody gives a shit about playing naturally on subsequent playthrough with the same girl. Anyone that don't care about the leftover CGs will already drop the game/chasing another girl by this point.
>Doukyuusei isn't even that hard without a 攻略.
Yeah, go try finding girl the girls in 20+ places with limited save and no indicator if you're missed crucial plot of the girls that you like. Or the fact that you can get locked out from getting one girl because you want to settle a debt that you have with another girl. Also fuck the save system.

>>17368812
Some of Asuka route's stuff gets brought up again in Aqua After, though overall yeah it strangely has much less major plot revelations than the previous routes. The epilogue however is pretty important, so you can't skip the route altogether.

The following unvoiced spriteless side stories could be skipped I guess, but they do flesh out some background information if you're interested and has characters that are somewhat related to Aqua After. こもれび is a bit boring but かげろう is pretty entertaining and has the juicier background plot stuff.

Remember that Aqua After isn't included in the remake so you have to play it separately, after finishing the other stuff first of course.

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>>17368989

The game is fairly linear, and most of the routes are only minor side-content, which includes hers. It's fine, for what it is, and a nice little "what if..?", but that's about it. She has her role in the story though.
Mind you, it's not a moege. Things like dating or the romance isn't the main thing. And if you have a too weak heart, then the one other enforced "route" may not leave you too happy. Especially if you like the girl. Pic unrelated.

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So poor that she has to take a bath at the school and live at the cave? This is getting ridiculous.

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>>17369947

At least she takes care of her hair and has nice clothes! Being a bishojou is more important than anything else. Plus, maybe the cave is close to school?

Sen no Hatou is getting PS4 and Vita versions.

>>17370149
And it still won't manage to be decent.

>>17370157

Agreed.

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>>17370073
She bathes there because she's so poor that she don't have money to use public bath house.

And there's something fishy with the childhood friend's act here. Why act lovey-dovey if she feels she doesn't deserve him?

>>17370157
Yeah, sadly.

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Too fishy.

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How is Monmusu? The newest two games in the series sure have high scores on egs for unvoiced RPG maker stuff and the old trilogy are between 80-86 too.

>>17370256
deserving of its scores. though if you're new to the series i would wait for the final installment so you can just marathon it, or only play the first trilogy and wait on the second since the games combine and progress carries over. your opinion of the first game should determine if you keep playing or drop it

>>17370256
>>17370346
Oh i didnt know there was a new monmusu series. Is it same setting with the older ones?

>>17370390
yes and no, i haven't played it yet since i'm waiting for all parts to be released but supposedly the ending of the first trilogy wasn't supposed to happen and created a time rift, so the characters and setting are technically the same but from different timelines, some radically different

>>17370438

Aren't the rpg maker parts a little too long to play back to back anyway? The first alone has an average of 50 hours on EGS.
Though I guess some really like playing something long as fuck back to back like that.

Anyone else saving up their cum for release week? Haven't fapped for the last 4 days and it's gonna be hard keeping up for another 4 days but my mind is resolute. Though this is the first time in... years I have gone without fapping for more than 3 days. I'm having pretty bad withdrawal headaches, but I imagine they will be gone once my brain rewires itself. BiMan4 better be uploaded instantly!

>>17370569
i'm not someone to normally get hyped for things but i recall finishing part 1 of the original trilogy, eagerly awaiting part 2, finishing it in 2 days, and realizing i had many more months to wait for part 3. even in the first part of the rpg maker trilogy they included some end-game content that you could grind for and i'm personally not 100% confident i could stop myself from doing so even knowing it would be a waste of time since i could just get to it later through normal game progression

>>17370812
You might get cucked by PlayDRM

>>17370812
>BiMan4 better be uploaded instantly
Of course it will, on release date. Get your credit card ready.

>>17370812
Since mai stopped cracking PlayDRM, You probably will not be able to play it, at least for a month or something.

>>17370812
You could just buy it if you want to play it instantly.

I need obscure eroge recommendations.
You know, weird shit from the early 2000's and that kida jazz.

Shit like this:
https://vndb.org/v6955
https://vndb.org/v7792

>>17371613
Did you play Pieta? How is it?

>>17371613
ひなたのつき, or Cross Channel with traps
To quote a EGS review
>ひなたのつき哲学的な超傑作。エロゲ史に残る名作なのに誰一人気がつかない。

>>17371625
Not yet but its on my PTR list lol.

From the guy who wrote Sayooshi so I have high expectations, but it's supposedly unfinished.

>>17371638
Thx anon this stuff is what I'm looking for

>>17371613
https://vndb.org/v7272

>>17371613
https://vndb.org/v14874 and others from the brand
https://vndb.org/v7272
https://vndb.org/v11285
https://vndb.org/v2548
https://vndb.org/v4138 and others from the brand
https://vndb.org/v18503
https://vndb.org/v18854
https://vndb.org/v9805
https://vndb.org/v10914

>>17371613
https://vndb.org/v3900
https://vndb.org/v2344
https://vndb.org/v431
https://vndb.org/v10338
https://vndb.org/v6228
https://vndb.org/v2342
https://vndb.org/v217
https://vndb.org/v3061
https://vndb.org/v913

>>17372189
Only like two of those are "obscure". Hello, world and Suigetsu are extremely huge dude.

>>17372210
well they were obscure for me

Does anyone have the version 1.02 patch of Daiteikoku? I can never download anything from Alicesoft because of the block.

>>17372210
Many vns was popular back in the days, but now no one remembers them. when was last time you hear about revive, suigetsu or masaru?

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Finished Newton, I quite enjoyed the main-story. The side-routes are a bit weird. They aren't bad, but some of them kinda make the main-route feel a bit weird, which is unfortunate.
The ending itself was also nicely bittersweet. You don't find that in many eroge nowadays. (especially not those, which you'd think are some kind of moege at first view) Because of that (?) there is a not canon epilogue that's a happy ending of sorts, though the author made very sure you understand, that it's not canon. But I think that's for the best. I suppose it's rather rare to see a not canon "doujinshi style" additional epilogue/route, but it works quite well as a final something here.


Yeah, I liked it. If anything though, the game was a little too fast paced. Yes, a VN too fast paced, crazy I know. Some things I feel like should've been shown a bit more or become a bit more of a topic. There's also one villain of sorts in the story, but he is a rather weak character as well, and not exactly a high point of the story. There was a lot of fun to be had though and some rather nice characters and such as well. And bonus points for Lavi's bonus h-content featuring her inventions. Though I'm sure the latter one will be too weird for most people.

>>17372306
I actually hear about suigetsu somewhat often.

>>17354092
You change the language in steam and it redownloads the game.

>>17371638

Based on what I've played of this game, I have an extremely hard time believing its anywhere near as good as that guy said it was.

>>17370164
>>17369947
I remember asking about this game a few years a go but nobody replied and I ended up not playing it.

Has reading ruined other things for you?
Like I keep reading japanese text and now I feel like I can't watch videos, games or even anime without Japanese subtitles.

>>17373122
I find that to be true if the media in question was originally japanese. English is fine if it's the original language, but if not I want the japanese.

This is fucking annoying when it comes to games since importing is way more expensive almost all of the time.

>>17373344
For me my inner miserliness thankfully wins out most of the time when it comes to games unless it's something I'm eagerly anticipating and don't want to wait for it to be localized.

What do you guys use to take screenshots?

>>17373632
ShareX, it's good

>>17373632
this>>17373708
my only problem is the naming convention doesn't put spaces but underscores.

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>>17373741
You can change it.

>>17373632
Alt+Print

>>17373870
No I mean for something like, %t or %pn the process name or windows name, if it has a space in it then it replaces the space with an underscore

>>17362196
the nyaa dl is dead.

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>>17373953
I'm downloading it fine, maybe it was dead an hour ago though. If you can't connect to the seeders then make sure your ports are open.

>>17373122
I can't read human handwriting anymore...

>>17373122
I guess anime and LNs. They feel too slow and unsatisfying compared to eroge.

>>17374393

Wait what? If anything it should be the other way around. At least with anime. Most anime have 4 hours. That's it. That's way different (and less) than the quotas VN writers gotta fill.

What are some good, lesser known charage that aren't too heavy on the drama?

>>17374658
空のつくりかた maybe.

>>17374742

This looks good, adult protagonist is a big plus too. Thank you.

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This VN is making me wish I had a daughter

So it seems we are getting something about Sakura no Toki this weekend. Hype.

>>17375258
i want crazy game from scaji, something like subahibi or nijuuei, not another boring charage about schoolgirls.

>>17375258
Are you guys gonna play the trial when it comes out? I feel tempted but I don't want to cuck myself so I might just wait for the full game.

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>>17372400
I actually liked how the "villain" ended early seeing he's not as interesting and it would feel everything would drag on with him still on the story. Also about how the VN itself has few fillers at the expense of character development (like maybe doing icha icha for 2 hours or some shit). And that bittersweet ending.

>>17375449

I'd rather have an interesting villain though. The game generally had a bunch of shortcuts here and there, and those aren't always that pretty I feel. Some things could've needed a bit more attention.
And by that I don't mean the lovey dovey stuff, that's also mostly missing I guess. That being rather minor is fine, although completely ignoring how characters end up interested in each other feels rather weird at times making it not fine. Some of the branches are just weird as fuck. Which is why I feel that those side-routes drag the game down, even though they aren't terrible. It's just that the way they exist it drags the main-game down.

>>17371613
Yo that first one has sister maid heroines? Sign me up. Haven't looked at all yet but it looks like it would be difficult to find.

>>17375449
please use sharex

>>17377122
Who gives a shit.

Has eroge ruined things for you?
Do you think you'll be very get married?
Have kids? Or will you keep playing eroge even when you hit 40, 50 and so-on?

I mean our world is pretty different now you're all tech savy to an extent and chances are still will be at those ages.

>>17377129
I read eroge with my gf :)

>>17377129
Not sure if its because of the eroges, but at least I wont be able to marry for sure. I own a middle size company and have a good income so getting a woman to marry is not a problem, actually had three marriage candidates in last 5 years which my mother found because I'm refusing to show any interest in it, but couldnt accept any of them at all. I even slept with the last one a couple times, with a "hey maybe if I fuck her I can feel something for her and start a relationship from there" but nope, I just cant feel any shit for them, everything seems so fake and bad. Well its probably because they're after my money and doesnt feel anything for me as well though.

I'm perfectly fine with this, you can call me stingy but I worked too hard for this stuff and definitely dont want to share all of it with something like a sex toy anyway.

>>17377202
If you met someone before you started your company or one who doesn't know your income, would have been fine to marry?

>>17374897
Same. I've thought of countless ways I could accomplish this game's theme for myself. The only thing I can think of is pay some Chinese farmer's daughter $30,000 to have my child and not name me the father then go pick her up 16 years later and take her home with me but then the girl would never know I'm her father so .... it's less immoral and exciting.

>>17377299

うは。犯罪臭い。

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What's a game where you play as a cute girl, I'm tired of self insert faceless betas.

Even if you turn into a girl like like Newton.

>>17377299
y'know when you put an actual price on it like that it sounds infinitely creepier than if you were just throwing around ideas

>>17377413
There's a gorillion of yurishit VNs.

>>17377422
Are there any that you play as a girl but get with guys or even a vn with no romance but a story.
I'm not into Yuri.

>>17377426
chuusotsu

>>17377426
>but get with guys
It's called otome. There's a thread for people like you.

>>17377436
I don't want otomoge, I'd ask there if I wanted.
I want something like majokoi or even like danganronpa v3 unless you consider those otomoge too.

>>17377429
Thanks any others?

>>17377442
That's exactly what you want and described.

>>17377451
Do you seriously consider majokoi or danganronpa an otomoge?
I don't want otomoge I just want female protagonists that isn't Yuri, it doesn't even have to have romance.
Just females protagonists that isn't Yuri or an otomoge.
Fuck I'd be fine. with monsters or non human protagonists.

I just don't like self insert beta males like you.

>>17377474
>Are there any that you play as a girl but get with guys
This is an otome. You're in the closet.

>>17377478
Then I guess nukige where you play as a girl and fuck guys or majokoi is an otomoge too. Not to mention that Danganronpa is now an otomoge hybrid by your definition.

And like I said it doesn't have to have be female just not self insert male and I also said it doesn't even have to have romance. Seems you like to ignore that part.
That said are you 'merely pretending to be retarded' or do you just lack basic reading comprehension?

Also
>This is an otome. You're in the closet.
A closet female?

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>>17377413
滅び朽ちる世界に追憶の花束を

>>17377503
looks cute thanks anon

>>17377502
It's amusing how desperately you're trying to backpedal yourself out of this with semantics but one of the requirements you listed is still "getting with guys". There'd be no reason to request it in the first place if you weren't interested in that. The sooner you accept your homosexual tendencies rather than being so strongly in denial about them the better your life will be.

>>17377547
No, here's what happened, I asked for a game with a cute girl as I'm tired of self insert beta males.
You said there's Yuri shit.
I said i'm not interested in girls with girls but rather if they end up with guys or even if there's no relationship involved.
You then replied saying that I want otomoge, completely dismissing the second point.
I said I don't as there's games with female protagonists that aren't otomoge like danganronpa and majokoi.

Here's where your autism kicks in. You saw my other criteria and points but decided fuck that shit.
You thought 'I make a funny, I call him gay, you now like otomoge and nothing else you say matters, I ignore you don't want yuri but don't ignore you want otomoge.'
So you decided to post just that.
Now I call you out on your lack of reading comprehension, and overall EBIN funny 'you are now gay' faggotry. By mentioning nukige has female protaginists and even ask you if you consider those other games as otomoge or not.
You thought to continue with your ignorance and just keep spouting your poorly put together arguement.
Next I respond, which is pretty poor on my part for responding to the mentally immature.
You then continue on your charade of shitposting and instead of reading you desicde to say 'hey you like arguing, you must be gay'!
Which brings us to this, you apparently think straight relationships are gay, if seen from the point of view of the female and consider yuri straight as they're both females.
No doubt you will cherry pick what you want from this post or just ignore it and continue with your charade.
If you ever had a thought of comitting suicide I'd go for it, no doubt your parents and other many others would be more than pleased.
Consider this me filtering you.

>>17377635

You do realize that you yourself are dismissing, that you are fine with the girl ending up with guys? That IS what's commonly referred to as otomege. Perhaps you don't ONLY want that, which is fine, but if you are actually fine with the female protag ending up with guys, do check that stuff out.
You can go to their thread and ask for something not too heavy on romance as well, perhaps with a bunch of other female side characters. Some otome games even have friendship routes for girls. But we here don't really know much about it, nor does that stuff belong here as we have a separate thread for it. There isn't really anything inherently wrong with guys enjoying shoujo works either, so just take a look around and ask there. With "our" kind of VN, there's also plenty of stuff not very focused on romance, so otomege should have SOMETHING there as well. It's not all the female targeted equivalent of dumb het moege.


If for whatever reason you hate the sound of "otomege", try out something like Sakurai's steampunk series. It's one of the few series that's not really for a specific gender. Depending on the game you may have a male or female protag, though perspective may also change around. They are very untypical for eroge, though that's somewhat normal for liar-soft I guess.
Also generally speaking, you have better luck with stuff that changes perspectives. A 100% female protag is very rare in games without at least yuri subtext or being an otomege.

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>>17377299
Ideally you'd want it to be exactly like the game, so you have a wife who's busy with work so can't come home and leaves your daughters with you. That way you get the added fun of NTRing her while having her financially support your lifestyle. Realistically I guess finding such a wife would be difficult so you'd have to compromise. You could do your idea but actually stay with the girl a bit so she remember you when you go to collect her 11 years later.

>>17377635
Check out 虜ノ雫.
But man, that post was some passive aggressive gay closet shit. I don't know if what you really want are otome games, now.

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heh

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Fucking hell you people told me this one wasn't scary you goddamn liars

>>17371613
Do you have the second one? It's nowhere to be found.

>>17378270
This is why I didn't read it.
Lurk moar

>>17377831
Why is the 3rd dimension such a bitch?

>>17378525
I'm also confused as fuck because there's that other image of her that's been posted a few times in these threads but I was convinced it was from Sakura no Mori for some reason.

oh well, surprises are good I guess

I've been wondering for a while but what's with japanese media and portraying bad guys as comically evil?

They may act normal but when other people find out they're evil, their personality goes for ride and they become sick, laugh maniacally and overall break their character.
I mean I get they were putting on a facade to trick people.
However why can't they have the same personality or an improved personality over some generic evil one.
It really feels like a cop out like the writer doesn't want you to sympathize with the evil character or they can't write a good evil person so they make them as hate-able and annoying as possible.
It really is a disappointment. The only decent evil characters I've seen are protagonists really.

>>17378721
>I've been wondering for a while but what's with japanese media and portraying bad guys as comically evil?

I feel like this happens in a lot of American media as well. Although I must say Japanese media seems like the worst, most consistent offender in this area. I also hate it and cringe whenever a villain does an evil maniacal laugh or changes personality.

>>17378721
>>17378872
it's bad writing 101, gotta make sure we know for sure they're evil because the plot won't work if there's no bad guy to do bad things. though i think there's something cultural in that nips aren't great with subtlety and work best with more overt social cues.

personally my least favourite type of bad villain writing is the sympathy bait ones where they try too hard to make them understandable/sympathetic but they shit the bed on the characterization or it comes out of nowhere, so they expect you to feel sorry for a shitheel who's spent like 20 hours antagonizing everyone because he got bad touched as a kid or some junk.

>>17378721

It's really a Japanese thing to overdramatize in general. That's part of it. It's also lazy writing.
Personally I'm not a fan of it either. I enjoy if enemies are actually acting in a way, you can at least sorta understand. It's fine if it's wrong, even obviously wrong, but as long as they themselves have an understandable goal: Sure. Like, you know, wanting to save someone they love or preventing "worse", provided there's actually a good chance that there IS worse. And so on.

There are a few games that do this fairly well. Ar Tonelico 3 comes to mind with its whole setting. The "bad guys" (or girls in this case I guess) simply do something which is necessary to sustain their world. The party essentially doesn't get to know that for a while and their actions seem rather evil and dominating, but there's good reason for it. It's not ideal, but in the end the party simply grasps at straws and their way is more of a gamble than anything.
It's an easy to create conflict. Do you want to keep a status quo, even if it requires periodic sacrifices, or do you want to gamble to perhaps solve the situation though it could also ruin everything? Both ways are understandable. As long as one side isn't doing silly villain laughs that is.

The main plot of Fortissimo is also really nice in that all characters have their reasons for fighting. No blackmail, mind-control or other silly things involved, aside of the general setting making them fight to a certain extend. (pretty much, once the fighting area is created, someone has to die in the next whatever amount of hours, or the whole island they are on gets pretty much destroyed, killing everyone on it) That said, people try to find solutions and stand by their own believes when it comes to when, who and why to fight. In a certain way even "if". They got into a really shitty situation together and yet they know, at some point they may need to fight, as their own priorities simply clash. Much better than "well, they were just randomly mind-controlled, blackmailed or fooled" and after defeating them, they are automatically good guys. The much more indirect pressure of the setting allowed a lot. They are all dealing with the same unchangeable situation, HOW they deal with it is what leads to all kinds of nice discussions and such as well.



Unfortunately this kind of stuff his actually somewhat rare. A lot of villains aren't even worth looking at, because they are too shallow, or they just get their "feel for the maniac!" random scene a short time before they get defeated. But it has to be liked to an extend in Japan, otherwise games like Baldr Sky Dive wouldn't be as popular.

>>17378390
pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=519860&uk=3845635793 密码:wt7u

>>17378390
http://xn--e1aaowadjh.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1079664

This wasn't hard to find at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg3SlFb6fZc

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>>17379679

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Really?
Really?

>>17379860
What about it?

>>17379860
That company always did stuff like that. I think Moonstone does too.

>>17379872
I think it's pretty bizarre, but then again it's a good protection against EOPs, so it's funny too.

>>17379860
Hey, it works against people from Anime-Sharing.

>>17379876
>That company always did stuff like that.

And now they are dead.

>I think Moonstone does too

At least the 3 recent Kure works don't. They do the "typical" PlayDRM I'm pretty sure, but that's it.

>>17379860
Better than having to sign up to a DRM botnet to play.

>>17379902
I haven't actually played any of their games from the last few years, but I think I remember princess evangile's installer asking to write out 薔薇.

>>17379860
Hey at least it's only at the beginning.

There are a couple of doujin games that have random anti-gaijin quizzes all over their game.

>>17379917

Doujin can be really funny, given that there may not be a walkthrough either. I have yet to see that though.

>>17379917
Lol really, I've never seen stuff like this before.

>>17379945
>>17379949
First thing that comes to mind are the ROBF series and Maidensnow Eve.

There are others but I already forgot.

I'm finding SukiSuki hilarious, not gonna lie.

>>17380009
Why would you lie? Are you known to lie a lot?

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>trap
>twins
>incest
>brocon
>true love story
>nukige
>arguable the best artist in eroge

TOMORROW

>>17380474
It's shit.

>>17380474

CG gallery.

RJ171393 torrent when?

>>17380540
http://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ171393.html

>>17380474
Yeah, if only it wasn't just another nukige.

>>17380474
Hyped, gonna be the best release of the year so far.

>>17380540
>>17380553
Is this the new SubaHibi?

>>17378270
anyone mind typing down that title for me?

Does anyone know why eroge as a medium begin stagnating after like 2009 in the first place?
Do you think eroge will rise from the ashes or deteriorate even more?

>>17380862
Less sales, less people willing to take risks. The best eroge writers transferred over to light novels for the most part too as it pays better. Or cases like F/GO grabbing Sakurai and Higashide.
There is practically no way for eroge to make a return to the 00's glory of experimental titles save for a literal miracle. Luckily that era left us lots of nice titles for the backlog and we still get a few alright games per year at least.

>>17380854
Learn Japanese.

Black sheep town might be the last great eroge desu
You should probably quit after its released

>>17380944
hi moogy wannabe

>>17380949
No according to moogy rance 10 will be the last bastion
L2moogy faggot

eroge will die in about twenty five minutes
mark my words

>>17381236

Damn, I just missed it!

>>17380944
What about 太陽の子

>>17381400
The staff imploded.

>>17380474
The main girl looks too slutty for me. This would be much better if she looked more cute and innocent.

>>17381415
That's what makes the game so promising, her being a ドS that teases and forces the protag to crossdress. The sleep-inducing archetype you want is already in every single generic moege anyways.

>>17381630
>a ドS
I guess I just don't have that fetish.

>>17380474
>best
no

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Tried to finish up Shinsou Noise, which I put on-hold after chapter 4. But chapter 5 is just boring and 6 was terrible. It's unfortunate, as the game had a relatively nice cast, solid production values and so on. But it just goes so down-hill.


The problem is mostly the awful structure. You get into the game with a fairly interesting main mystery. But that's hardly dealt with. Instead you get random cases, which aren't exactly short either. After a bunch of them, that "main mystery" gets randomly solved. It feels so very unimpressive. Though I guess at that point, you don't really care much anymore anyway. You may wanna know whodunnit, but just to be FINALLY done with the freakin' thing.
There are also issues with a main villain or whatever only really getting introduced in the second last chapter (last with an actual "case" even), which feels very dumb as well. Then again, the whole chapter 4 reveal was dumb already. That should've been an "end of prologue" thing I feel.

Speaking of which, the game would've been better without the silly main-mystery, and simply could've introduced all the staff from chapter 4 at the beginning of the game and just have a minor overarching plot regarding the main villain, while having random cases. Or, you know, actually having a game about the mystery they established at the beginning. They tried both at the same time of sorts, and as such kinda failed at both. So in the end, this is just another case of "great girl trapped in bad game" game. Saya was really a great genre-savvy girl.

>>17381782
This is exactly what I felt about the game. Everything became too dull very quickly and I stopped at chapter 4 three months ago. Wanting to know what happened to Sakura is really the only thing is stopping me from uninstalling this from my PC.

So I heard Monobeno is close to 5Mb in script size. Is that actually all in the main plot, or is a good chunk of that available in an extra menu for H-scenes? If so how long is the main game actually?
I really want to play it but the length is terrifying...

>>17382108

It may be an accident doubling of the scriptsize. The EGS average playtime and vndb length aren't really speaking for a close to 5mb game, but more to one with half that length.

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>>17382108
The content is easily accessible through the scene index.
For example, Natsu has 22 scenes for the main route, 20 scenes for the After route and 11 H-scenes. Let's say each scene takes 15-30 minutes to read.