エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General

Is it really untranslated? I remember fully finishing it, including missing content, years ago.

What are your predictions about Cube's current project? Another kusoge?
http://www.cuffs-cube.jp/products/yurauka/

>>17327069

I'm planning on continuing some stuff I put on hold for a bit right now.

For one thing there's Pastel Chime 3. Story is still as ass as ever, mostly being based around enemies being either brainwashed, misunderstanding something, being betrayed by someone or mabye just blackmailed. It's silly as hell, though the game takes its mainplot serious. Unfortunately. Because it has a rather fun cast that would fit a not that serious story much better. Pretty much Material Brave tier story, with better characters.
Gameplay is alright though. Some of the rpg elements aren't too great and some of the balancing is weird (why's def not doing anything?), but it's fun enough. I like how most maps have a bit of an optional hard mode built in, usually in regards to treasure. My last map had 3 treasure-chests for which I essentially had to go past the boss with some characters to get them, which basically means getting beaten up more by the boss.


Apart of that it's also time to continue Mori Dreamers with its sequel coming soon and all.

>>17327331
>Apart of that it's also time to continue Mori Dreamers with its sequel coming soon and all.
I had to drop it, its twist insulted my intelligence to an extremely high degree.

Do you guys read manga? Every time I pick something up I just go "this is so much worse than eroge" and put it down again. At least for things that try to be serious, the medium seems to work better for snappy comedy. Not sure where I'm going with this, I guess I'm interested in hearing what other VN readers like and recommend.

Oh yeah there's also a manga adaption of a few VNs like Tsukihime and Umineko but I can't say I'm too interested in them.

>>17327389
>At least for things that try to be serious, the medium seems to work better for snappy comedy
That's basically eroge though, manga at least can have several, long-winded arcs that happen in a continuum.

>>17327389
>Do you guys read manga?
I used to but I got sick of waiting long periods of times for new chapters

>>17327381

I hope it's not the twist that was not supposed to be a twist.
I kinda remember an anon here complaining about it being a terrible murder mystery, even though it's not even trying to be a murder mystery and making that rather clear as well.

>>17327423
>even though it's not even trying to be a murder mystery
Everything related to Joker is supposed to be a mystery, not something you can tell in the fucking prologue with incredibly stupid developments.

>>17327407
What do you mean? Manga chapters are 20 pages and a volume can be done in a few minutes. Meanwhile even short comedy VNs go on for 10+ hours. Hardly snappy.
>>17327419
What about completed series?

>>17327444
>What about completed series?
If a series I was interested in reading gets completed then I just read it in bulk.

>>17327389
I've read good manga and good eroge too, at probably the same fraction. It's possible if you're unfamiliar with the medium you end up getting the more popular, mediocre duds while the hidden gems go unnoticed. Same thing generally happens to anyone just dipping their toes into a new area of interest.

I'd try and recommend some things but I don't know your tastes or what you're looking for.

>>17327389
Manga is a much better medium overall because there is a lot more variety. Seems like your experience is only with weekly shitty ones.

>>17327504
>I'd try and recommend some things but I don't know your tastes or what you're looking for.
I guess I'm looking for something that isn't endlessly long, complete (or looking to be completed within a year~) and has a well written, engaging scenario. My tastes in eroge aren't all that special, I like the usual stuff like Subahibi, Harukuru, Asairo, anything by Maruto and so on. My favorite manga I tried to date is probably Aku no Hana but the second half sucked and the authors other stuff sucked even worse. Tried the first few chapters of a bunch of popular shit like Punpun and 20th Century Boys but dropped them very quickly out of boredom.

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Whelp, I'm in love.

>>17327634
S T O P M A K I N G Y O U R C G S I D E W A Y S

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>>17327069
>Cross Channel
>untranslated
what?

>>17327608
Give Ressentiment a shot, it's completed, short-ish, and about a fat pig otaku who gets a VR headset to meet his loli waifu.

Or one of Mizukami's works, they always start pretty shounen but have excellent characters and development, you can really feel that the guy knows people and especially how they deal with death and loss. Spirit Circle probably gets to the "good stuff" fastest but I think Sengoku Youko is his best.

Or failing that there's always douman seiman for weirdly funny and touching stuff. His shorts in Nickelodeon are my favourite shit but if you want a continuous story then The Voynich Hotel is a good bet.

Sugar Dark is also a real good adorable love story involving gore porn and immortal eldritch horrors that doesn't outstay its welcome or introduce a lot of the bullshit that usually accompanies love stories.

Kokou no Hito is also a hell of a ride but starts off kinda shounen before becoming something entirely...else. Worth it almost entirely for the art.

And there's Saikyou Densetsu Kurosawa if you wanna alternate between feeling inspired and also like shit. But it's pretty well known so maybe you've already tried it.

I won't pretend any of them are perfect but maybe you'll find something to like in there. Polite sage for off-topic.

though if someone can recommend me a vn that feels like douman's style I would love that.

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>>17327647

B-But she wouldn't fit otherwise!

Though I do agree. Funny enough, not tilted CG are becoming kinda rare I feel.

>>17327608

Maybe try something like Miman Renai, which may have somewhat of a relevance to the eroge medium. (keep in mind that the story in that is not eroge lolicon, even though you may think so, it takes a more.. "realistic" approach)
Or something short like Negative Happy Chainsaw Edge. Short, crazy and I enjoyed it.

That said, I almost never read manga, so eh. I think the most manga I read were touhou doujinshi at some point.

>>17327647
but you gotta fit her butt, panties, legs, tits and face all in the shot while having them close enough for the viewer to lick. god forbid we miss out on any one of them.

the only other alternative is to contort her into jello-bone positions.

>>17327724
Yes, if you don't install the patch, it is untranslated for you.

>>17327728
Thanks for the write-up. I've actually given Voynich by douman a shot a few years ago but it felt very disjointed with no real scenario to speak of. Basically just a bizzare comedy. I think the chapters were only like 6 pages long or something? Not really a lot of room to work with. Samidare by Mizukami I've tried but it didn't hook me either. Will check out the other stuff you listed, I'm actually a fan of FKMT's Kaiji anime. Polite-saging as well.
>>17327760
Thanks, will check them out.

Also did you guys know that looseboy had an original manga? Eroge writers doing manga sounds like it could be interesting.

>>17327389
Yeah I enjoy manga sometimes more than eroge.
Mainly cause I'm not staring at the same sprites for 50 hours and have more variety in art.

>>17324977
What exactly is Higurashi Sui? I've been interested in reading Higurashi for a while now but all the different versions and releases confuse me. Umineko seemed simple with just having to read the 8 episodes in succession, but idk how to go about reading Higurashi.

>>17327634
That game is truly divine. I need them to make something else soon. Hell, even just something from that artist would be great.

/jp/ are there any good セカイ系 eroge? I mean I'm not expecting anything on the level of Iriya, but surely there has to be something decent out there, right?

>>17327634
Yeah this game's great.

Who here has started to skip H-scenes in non-nukige VNs? Can't fucking stand them anymore, they're all the same.

>>17327389
I mainly read manga out of all the Japanese media I consume. I read a ton of it. I actually really dislike VNs, though I like eroge. It works well as porn.

>>17327841
>it felt very disjointed with no real scenario to speak of. Basically just a bizzare comedy
Yeah, that's it. And on that note, that's most of his manga. When I reread Voynich for a review last year I came away thinking "holy shit, this manga isn't ABOUT anything". I love it though.

I think you might like Sekine-kun no Koi. It's completed though.

>>17329312
I feel they're necessary for love progression, however one I feel is enough.

>>17329312
What games are you talking about?

>>17327608
Maybe you'd like Birdmen.

>>17327608
When in doubt, Adachi's stuff never fails to deliver. Read Touch.

>>17329312
I know that feeling. I don't skip them because I'm autistic and want to read everything but they bore me and don't give me a boner unless I really like the girl/scenario.

>>17329419
I'm not that dude but personally I can't help but feel like I have to read them. Even if there's a 99% chance nothing of importance happens during an H scene I can't neglect that 1%.

I know eroge is mostly for escapism but are there any 社会派 recommendations? Anything that deals deeply with or provides commentary about real world issues as a cornerstone of its plot or at some point in the story either directly or metaphorically.

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>>17329233
Higurashi Sui is probably what you want.
It has pretty much all released arcs, from the original ones to the extra ones from other console ports, and the ones adapted from the manga. I think there are around 20 arcs in total?
Combined with high production values like nice backgrounds, a few CGs in every arc, over 100 BGMs, fully voiced with a damn good cast (i.e. Wakamoto, Sawashiro, OnoD, Nakamura) and great special effects.

It's pretty much a combination of all the previous ports, with added voicing for everything that wasn't voiced before and polished assets. This leads to some wonky CG artwork, but otherwise is pretty much perfect. I don't think there's any other release that comes close to this one.

>>17329694
I wish rewrite and little busters had a remake with updated art.
I can't deal with it's art style.

>>17329753
I actually kind of liked Rewrite's art, but I can see how it would be hated by some. I wasn't a big fan of LB's art.

>>17329753
I'd rather want new art for Air/Clannad. Those two are way worse.
But no, Key was too cheap for that.

>>17329795
Didn't they just redo Planetarian? I realize that one is way shorter and easier to remake than the other two, but perhaps its a sign they'd be open to doing something similar with their other titles in the future.

>>17329795
Not cheap, just bankrupt.

>>17329811
Was that a redo? I thought they just made it HD, with no additional/new art.

>>17329861
Oh was there nothing new? I haven't actually played it yet so I can't say I suppose I just assumed. Shame on me for not assuming the worst from Key.

>>17329866
I played it and yeah, it's just higher resolution. They didn't even port it to Siglus, it's still on Reallive. The art is fine anyway, since it was done by 駒都えーじ rather than by someone at Key.

>>17329694
Oh shit, this has a digital release now. I guess there is no more excuses.

>>17329693
Re;LieF

>>17329278
Sense Off

>>17327389
You should check out Missile to Plancktone from Romeo.

>>17329693
I haven't actually read it but World End Economica might fit that criteria.

>>17329312

Skip them if you don't use them, I guess. Unless you really like something or it seems like it could be important enough for you to care.

I generally skip most of them. That's necessary anyway. Unlike nukige you only read to fap, other stuff is a bit different. And still they tend to bombard you with ~8 hcg scenes within 2 hours or so. They aren't made to be all used.

>>17330197
Thanks for the suggestion. It looks pretty hard to track down but I'll be sure to try it out.

>>17330295
http://yun.baidu.com/share/link?uk=438413292&shareid=330491&third=0&adapt=pc&fr=ftw
pw: ammyyk
You might have to do something to get the BGM working, fix is in this chain >>17059333

What are some visual novels with good world-building?

>>17330116
Just be prepared to spend at least 100 hours on it, and most likely something around 140-200 depending on your speed.

>>17330482
Machine Chronicle series (Kikaijikake no Eve > Amatsukaze > Felshis)

>>17330314
Thanks. I will give it a try when I am in the right mood for it.

I uploaded it to mega for the convenience of future generations.

sense off ～a sacred story in the wind～
otherwise
元長柾木
BGM fix >>17059333
https://mega.nz/#!CxQkgQDB!EdhuX2qfLVU9Hucq6eA-cJ6FVC9NHBNIkwuMIYS0Yr8

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I wonder if this is a coincidence.

>>17329693
Sumire

>>17330642
This looks very interesting. Thanks for the upload.

>>17327389
The real problem with manga and LNs is their plot. Authors rarely think through how the story should go beforehand: that's why many useless characters appear out of nowhere or some plot arcs end abruptly. This happens with vns too, but plot-oriented vns are usually well-tied from start to finish.

>>17331620
Not true. The reason why things may end abruptly is because they get axed. That's really the only difference, VNs are released as a full product (usually).

>>17331635
> Not true. The reason why things may end abruptly is because they get axed.
What about the vampire arc in Gantz? Or bleach?

>>17331620

Unless we are talking about REALLY long running series, axed is more likely. But that's similar to anime really. In exchange VNs tend to have quota writing, meaning they are usually padded. Overall good experiences however can be found in any medium.

>>17331671
The short running series are short usually because they get axed very often. Creators of long running series milk the manga as long as they can.

ttp://www.mangagamer.org/minori/

Suddenly sorry HENTAI gentlemen everyone
The URL project is going to the next step with $ 2000
We Japanese also are looking forward to the continuation of this game
To do that we need your cooperation.
Please ask for "sppl"

From HENTAI gamers in Japan

PS:
I am not good at English.
I use machine translation. I apologize for being unnatural sentences.

-Below original-

突然ごめんよ　HENTAI紳士のみんな
URLのプロジェクトがあと$2000で次のステップに進むんだ
私達日本人も　このゲームの　続きが出ることを　楽しみにしている
そのためには　君たちの協力が　必要だ
「sppl」をどうかよろしく頼む

日本のHENTAIゲーマーより

追伸：
英語が苦手で。
機械翻訳を利用している。不自然な文章であることを詫びる。

>>17331914
クソゲーじゃん、これ
失敗すればいい

辛辣すぎて逆にワロタ
あと本国民湧くの早すぎだろ

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>>17331914
kek

>>17331914
Also try there >>17296282

>>17331946
Please be nice to the Japanese.

>>17331914
An episodic piecemeal VN with no porn. Pass.

I been playing 装甲悪鬼村正 and near the end of kanae's route (the 2nd to last choice) it continues to crash.

I have no idea what has been causing this. Does anyone know of this bug? I have not tried reinstalling yet as I am not sure what would happen to the save.

ttp://www.nitroplus.co.jp/support/sp18/sp18a/
"装甲悪鬼村正" has two versions
A patch exists in the older version
There is a possibility of defect of the video codec

Worked like a charm, knew I could rely on you guys. Thank you.

>>17332305
Ah damn can't use my old savefiles.
That kind of blows but as long as it doesnt happen again.

>>17332089
>being nice to nbkz

>>17327213

The version I read was confusing and didnt flow well, although I'm not sure if that was because the characters are literally autistic and the world isn't tethered to itself or because the translation was done by an amateur

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>>17329233
>>17329694
The extra arcs weren't written by Ryuukishi, the redrawn art misses the originals unique charm and expressivity and voices are superfluous and break the reading flow. The original Comiket releases are perfect and the only way anyone should experience Higurashi.

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Okay I'm kinda lost with this game as it has perspective changes but it doesn't tell whose it is, it throws me off.
Also I'm still reading so sorry if it's explained later.

I just want to ask something.

So the dad experiments on people on turning them into mermaids to collect tears which can heal.
How is this not caught by the police?
When the mc and his two sisters escaped how did they not tell the police or anything?
I mean three kids who were thought to be missing were found. I mean I get Akari picked them up but when they went back to their lives and school wouldn't that raise eyebrows?

Also what the fuck, Eishi shot a gun and missed his dad and his dad kicked a rock and hit his eye. Not only that but notbody ran after him.

>>17327389
I'm actually more inclined to pick up a manga than a VN. Really good ones have me reading for hours on end.

Man, Natsu no Iro no Nostalgia has a lovely OST. Seems like a nice entry in the "move back to your old house in the boonies and bang your sister" sub-genre.

>>17334951
Too bad the game is fucking garbage
Fucking
Garbage

>>17335001
dammit anon you're killing my motivation here

Is it a particular bad route or something or is the whole thing ass?

>>17334549
>police
>when the super hospital has both an amazing reputation and huge influence everywhere

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>>17335072
I love these characters so much, the story is decent but the characters are amazing. I love her voice the most.

>>17335145

But nobody questioned kids coming back from the dead?
I mean seriously?
Mum dies, kids are missing all of a sudden they come back and two of them suffer mental issues, and nobody says 'hmm something doesn't add up'.
I mean I get they may have power but it doesn't mean they won't be under suspicion if a bunch of traumatized missing kids point fingers.

>>17335169
The hjospital covered it all up, they are STILL employing the kidnapper so it's pretty much a 'let's pretend he was justa crazy psycho who totally wasn't working for us, police will do something about it lol'

>>17335175
That's bullshit but I feel like it's believable.

>>17335180
Money and having deals with basically every singel important person in the country/world does wonders.

>>17335169
But the kids just got kidnapped by Shit Dad, there's no need for a big investigation into a super high profile hospital when all signs point to it just being a guy who locked his kids and another girl in a basement for years.

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man this game really makes you feel terrible if you don't pick setsuna's route in CC

Also, this is probably a stupid comparison but Setsuna reminds me of the girl from The Brothers Karamazov, Katerina Ivanovna, i'm not too far into it but it feels like Setsuna gets a hard on from thinking of herself as a scapegoat.

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heh

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>>17335355
chronobucks was very moe and deserved this award

>>17335030

There's one anon here who posts that about all Kure games. There's no reason or explanation for it.

If you wanna know some faults of the game, you can probably check out EGS for that. I myself think that the game is perfectly fine. There are problems, mostly structure related, and you have to obviously deal with what the VN is in the first place, but if you like the general ideas behind it, it's fine. Definitely a title that gets kinda killed by being an eroge though. Or rather what's probably still kinda expected of Kure/Moonstone and they "need" to deliver in some form. Mori Dreamers 2 probably only exists because of that reason, though I've not yet finished the main-route of 1 to be absolutely sure. (It's not enforced last though, so I'm not even sure where the "2" will be taking place..)

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>>17335355
Stopped caring about moege awards long time ago.

>>17335406
Ah good, thanks for that. I don't expect a masterpiece since I haven't really heard anyone talk about this one but so far it seems quite interesting, the presentation and music are great, and the girls are all very pretty. Plenty of time to shit the bed later on but I'm not getting too many warning signs yet.

And I wanna know why the fuck the loli caved in some dude's head with a rock and everyone still hangs around with her like it's nothing, so there's that keeping me reading.

>>17335180
It's believable because it actually happens. The absurd influence of money is one big theme of the game as well. Right here and now many people in the government and in the CEO circle do all kinds of shady and plainly criminal shit and they will never get caught nor judged.

>>17335433
It was insanely boring, but you can't win against clochette.
Also istoria was ridden with typos and bugs a release, people hate that.

>>17335446
True it's the worst engine I've ever encountered.
But I loved that game.

>>17335458
Play haruka kanata, without patches.

>>17335435
>spoiler

That's the kind of stuff why I like Kure. He writes shit so very very gray. That girl was a fun loli.

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Let's all get drunk while there's someone out to get us.

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>>17335475
''Well-intentioned'' incredibly fucked up stuff is not what I''d call grey.

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>>17335484
I also consider girls kissing girls as cheating,so this kills the moebuta inside me.
FUCK.

>>17335486
>same face
>same eyes,
>same antenna
hmm

>>17335500
Sisters.

>>17335486

You may wanna look up what grey means then. Provided whatever is well intentioned actually makes sense (is justifiable), that is exactly what grey means.

>>17335605
>Provided whatever is well intentioned actually makes sense (is justifiable)
Which is why it was "well intentioned", just batshit insane and outright retarded and only made sense in the crazy mind of the person who did it.
It was fun, but outright black.

>>17335608

If you are talking about that situation, it's one that's very understandable, and every young girl would try to do the same. Yes, it was a special situation. But trying to make your mother happy is one of the most normal things in the world. That's the thing that is important here.

You are focusing too much on the act itself and some backgrounds you've learned later on, and ignore the ideal the character pursued. What the character wants to do is white. The way the character tried that is not white. As such -> grey. Also "crazy mind" matters only, if it's beyond help. You can't really say that here.

>>17335741
>What the character wants to do is white. The way the character tried that is not white. As such -> grey.
I can't agree with this, good intentions mean shit if all you do is fuck over people, it's an extremely basic definition of gray which makes for extremely bad writing.
Exact same situation but way better done was Rena from Higurashi, who actually felt grey enough before going insane.

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Suisouginka

Well fuck.
Who did you guys pick?

I feel compelled to pick my sister because well... She's my sister, and what kinda family would I be if I didn't. Her words really hurt when she said I like Sayo or Kukuri more than her.
I mean in this situation I really can't see you picking anybody else, what kinda brother would I be.

This VN is amazing, I love it so much, but I hate how they got me to love all the characters only to end with this.
I'm assuming in the true end you say fuck you let's play a card to decide or something like that. I mean I see no other bargaining chips (pun intended).

>>17335793
>I mean in this situation I really can't see you picking anybody else, what kinda brother would I be.
The shitty one Yuura expects you to be,
because Eishi is clearly into Kukuri.
Went with Yuura first because I didn't like her much as a heroine anyway, so better be done with her soon.

>>17335827
He says he's not into her and hasn't known her that long, but even then.

Family that you're known your whole life VS
Crush that you haven't known that long.

I seriously don't get why this is a choice.
I'd get if it were Sayo and Kukuri.

I mean if my family and crush was on the line I'd pick my family even if I don't have romantic feelings for my family like normal people. I don't even like Yuura, she's probably my least favourite heroine, but I'd still pick her.

>>17335875
Because he's the only person Kukuri has and he swore he'd never betray her again.
Also Saayo and kukuri wouldn't even be a choice because he'd choose Sayo 100% of the times,.
for some reasons you still don't know.

>>17335887
I get he made the promise but still, family takes precedence. Would you give up a family member for a promise you made with somebody you met recently?

I'm not saying I don't like Kukuri or don't think much about her promise but
I just don't get how you could you leave somebody you've known your whole life for somebody you've met.
You can make more friends, crushes, and even marry again.
However you only have one family. She saved his life too and they've been through tons of hardships together. I just don't see how I could abandon somebody I grew up with like that. Even if she didn't have a romance route I'd still pick her.

>>17335923
Because you should respect the person's wishes for once. Yuura is sick of Eishin needing to do all the hard choices and losing what's good in his life, so she choose to sacrifice herself for him and even Yuura agrees dropping her is the best choice he can make if he wants to be happy.

>>17335929
Okay fair enough, if they want it that way.
But still until normal circumstances I would choose my way.

>>17335769
>fuck over people

That didn't even really happen. People were in Eden because of themselves, and it's not like she killed the man or anything. At least as far as I remember.

Also keep in mind the overall theme of the VN. And think about the difference of children and insane people. I kinda feel like you are forgetting or perhaps not realizing the point of the story.

>>17335923

The choice would clearly be obvious if you weren't forgetting the added benefit of Masashi leaving Saya alone if you let him have Yuura. It's pretty well done imo and makes you take a lot of Eishi's stuff that he's struggled with in the story regarding ~Family~ into account with the choice. It's cruel as fuck but I laughed out loud for a solid minute or two, best choice ever.

>>17336619
It really is the perfect worst choice ever.

I liked that Yurugi's route is the one in which anything even remotely dramatic happens off-screen, she has no emotional baggage whatsoever, and the only bad things that happen are that her friend gets sad and has a minor crisis over her choice of future career. Because getting to her route requires Eishi to cut out everything in his life that makes him unhappy, and once he does, his life turns into a mediocre moege.

>>17336848
>his life turns into a mediocre moege.
That's all the side routes.

>>17336917
At least the other girls had some dangling thread of existing major plot point to go on, Yurugi's was literally 'oh no my friend is sad we should try and cheer her up in between all this ichaicha we are doing'.

But yeah the writer's always been bad at side routes, it's clear he's got one plot he wants to do and everyone else gets filler.

>>17327069
I am interested in reading this as my first Japanese VN: 追奏のオーグメント - https://vndb.org/v9890

Is it too hard for a first attempted reading, assuming that I am willing to put in a lot of time on trying to understand the lines?

Also, has anyone who started with a really hard to read VN felt that was the right or wrong choice?

>>17336619
>>17336848
Yeah I get that Sayo might be in trouble but that makes little difference, really.
I'd pick my little sister over some girl I've known for a short time.
Like I said the reason I can kinda support choosing to give up Yuura is that she wanted it, otherwise I'd go with the girl who saved my life, gone through tons of shit together, and known the longest, over some fleeting love I've know for a little while.
Besides even Eishi says this but there's no guarantee his dad will leave Sayo 100% if he chooses to leave Yuura.

>>17337152
99% of VNs are the exact same "difficulty": standard Japanese aimed at adults. The linked one is no exception. Picking something you want to read is the most important thing.

>>17337167
Fair enough, choices rarely can be exactly equal. It's easy to see why it's a hard choice for Eishi though.

Picking Kukuri (to throw away) puts you on the side routes which are considerably less good than the main one, by the way.

>>17337152
I fucking hate character spacing this wide.
Ｉｔ’ｓ　ｌｉｋｅ　ｒｅａｄｉｎｇ　ｓｏｍｅｔｈｉｎｇ　ｌｉｋｅ　ｔｈｉｓ　ａｌｌ　ｔｈｅ　ｔｉｍｅ．
I really don't know people put up with it.

>>17337152
Kinda agree with>>17337190
Most are similar but just have different writing styles that can throw you off.

>>17337225
Poor text presentation can really hurt a game in my opinion.

>>17337167

Well alright man, I don't really care to convince you otherwise so this is my last post. It isn't a matter of "might be in trouble", and all I can say is you're overlooking some big aspects of that scene and the story as a whole if you really think that it's such an obvious choice. Good luck with the rest.

>>17337196

Picking either at that point puts you on the side routes and all of them are terrible. The true route is locked until you clear all four of them.

>>17337225
i don't really see the problem with it, and it's probably not too hard to somehow fix. 縦書き bothers me much more

Is there a way of playing Umineko on a PC with PS3 sprites and voices + Japanese text?

>>17337301
Oh, is that where the true route branches off? I burnt out halfway through Kukuri's route so never got to the end. Should really get back into it and finish now that I've emptied my melodrama gauge.

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SuisouGinka

Wait why? I mean sure she's in trouble.
But you finally paid off the debt.
You should in fact stay together in case the dad comes back , maybe plan a counter attack.
Does she expect you to give up your flesh and blood?
Once again I get this is a hard choice but this game likes punishing the MC for making hard decisions.

>>17337348

Yeah. Other people have said this before but you really aren't missing much if you just ctrl through all four of the side routes and go for the true end.

>>17337359
In not just this instance but multiple instances. The game like punishing the MC

>>17337359

I told you, man. It's ultimately a choice between Yuura and Sayo. This is what happens when you miss the point that hard.

>>17337374
Yeah but you're not giving up Sayo, you're back to base 1 before you met Kukuri pretty much.
I just don't get why Sayo moved away this bad from you. I mean you should alll stick together when you're in danger.
I mean it's great she's over her trauma but I didn't expect her to leave.
Does she want you to give up you sister?

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>>17337363
My 'tism won't let me with characters I like. It's fine though, all the discussion lately is making me want to get back in and finish. I'm just glad it's finally getting some love around here, it got bashed pretty hard over the typos/bugs when it first came out (not exactly unfairly either, but still).

>>17337396
I'm just glad it's finally getting some love around here
It's pretty much favourite VN, I seriously don't know how it lost to Chollete or why people even like Chollete, the art is horrendous.

>>17337401
Same reason [your favourite restaurant] isn't as popular as McDick's, probably.

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>>17337410
No but I mean the art is bad, I'd get if it was Yuzusoft or SMEE or somebody with a passable art style but the art is bad.
It looks deviant art tier.
Is the story that great?

I mean I just can't see why somebody would think this looks that great. She honestly looks like she has down-syndrome with her head's shape..

>>17337337
>縦書き bothers me much more

But that's proper Japanese.

>>17337337
Ａｒｅ　ｙｏｕ　ｆｉｎｅ　ｒｅａｄｉｎｇ　ｔｅｘｔ　ｌｉｋｅ　ｔｈｉｓ？

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Last 10 days.

>>17337434
Is this the legendary koibanana?

>>17337433
no that would get annoying after a bit, but the jp text isn't nearly as atrocious. it's much more bearable than if it were written in half width for example

>>17337396
Bugs can be annoying, but idk why people freak out about typos. You can always discern what was actually meant. If typos ruined a work for you then you probably were never going to like it in the first place. If you take a great work and add some typos to it then its still going to be great. Never played Suisou Ginka but my autism couldn't let this go without chiming in.

>>17337374
What point am I missing?
I've been thinking and I tried to put myself in her shoes.
Yes I'd kinda be upset that I'm in trouble but then I'd realize that Eishi is in a bind too, he has to get rid of a person from his life. His sister he's known his whole life or this girl he just met. I mean Kukuri and Eishi even then didn't hang out that long.
I just don't get why she straight up says goodbye. She treats him like he made a bad decision. He helped her get over his father's debt too. He betrayed Kukuri for her before too.
If anything if I was in her shoes I'd want to stay close to avoid his dad coming back and kidnapping me. Further more she loves him.
Still if I am missing something please let me know.
I just don't quite get it.

>>17337190
Well, what I want to read most is 最果てのイマhttps://vndb.org/v1278 , but everyone has said that it is ridiculously hard to read, so I have shied away from it.

>>17337771
Yeah that is the 1%. If you want, try Kazoku Keikaku by the same author. A lot more accessible and also very very good.

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Doctors often say don't put anything larger than elbow in your ear (pretty much meaning nothing)

This is dangerous, you can rupture your eardrums and cause life long pain.

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>>17337791
>don't put anything larger than elbow in your ear
>elbow
friend I am really hoping that is a typo or autocorrect because I'll be damned if I can put anything even remotely approaching the size of my elbow in my ear.

nipponese q-tips do look pretty huge though.

>>17337806
My bad I mean smaller.

It pretty much mean don't put anything in, as nothing like an elbow can fit.

>>17337817
I guess it's like me saying
>At the very least get 100% in the exam.
Meaning get 100%.
>Don't put anything smaller than your elbow in.
Means your elbow is minimum, and since you can't put it in. Put nothing in.

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>>17337817
I have a minor q-tip addiction so I spit in the face of Death each morning, but I'd never let someone else clean my ears like those weirdos, that's just asking for brain damage.

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>>17327069
I'm reading that again, since Asairo 2 years ago i haven't player a Vn , and since my moonspeak is extremely bad and i need to read it with the Dictionary in my hand, i really want to know EXACTLY what are they saying in himanatsu this time.

>>17337853
Same I used to do it everyday but don't anymore.
Don't do it man, I got it stuck in my ear.
The tip fell off and got stuck.
The more I tried to take it out the further it got stuck in.
This happened twice.
Twice the doctor had to use water pumps to flush it out.
It hurts like a mother fucker.
My ear still hurts.

>>17337854
>That filename
Please explain

>>17337918
Jesus that's almost enough to make me want to stop. I can't stop though, it's an honest to god addiction.

>>17337923
Guy on left adopt girl on right when she was a kid

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>>17337923

Play the game and find out. Be aware that route is from Konno Asta with all the typical weaknesses that you can also find in, for example, Konosora.

>>17337923
Himawari no Kyoukai to Nagai Natsuyasumi
Aka Himanatsu:
The story of a boy that comes at his "hometown" from university as Vacation.
And there he meet some old friends.
Beside having a strange supernatural Feels to it in each route i didn't follow, there are 3 girls in total, and a little child which is an a Abandoned little girl called hinasakura.
in Hina's route which is possibly the best route of the game, unlockable only after completing once the "true route", the Mc is now a father figure to this girl after staying by her side for 10 years (discovering that her mother is related to him but not the cause of her abandonment) the route is mostly about a girl going full UsagiDrop for her Virgin Fatherfigure , but their interaction are cute as hell.

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>>17337960
>>17337923
forgot the pic.
This anyway was probably one of the few LN i really wished to see some other media about, dunno maybe some 1vol Manga like it happened for AmairoIsland

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>>17330314
>>17330642
played around with it a bit and under windows 7 using virtual clone drive or daemon tools i had no problems with sound. the game is supposed to read the music from the disc and if you don't have it mounted it should give you an error like pic related. i can only guess your problems are OS or mounting software related

the cue file is also for the wrong game

>>17337936
What?
Then he married her?
That's kinda hot.
I wish Tales of Grace ended like this

>>17337960
Did they get married after that? Well Hare Nochi Kitto Nanohana Biyori was way more fucked up than it though; in the end the heroine (your wife) dies while giving birth do a daughter. Then mc raises her by himself, but apparently her soul was your dead wife's one after all and when she becomes 5 year old she starts to remember all her old memories, literally becomes to your ex wife.

In short mc's 5 years old daughter suddenly becomes to his dead wife and now they are literally one person / same person. Even mc at the end becomes like wtf I do now

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>>17338038
And this is the CG of it, what a great couple.

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So, done with Mori Dreamers. Once again a little Kure typical, eroge "killing" eroge.


The game is roughly split into 2 parts, with the second part being essentially the character routes.

Part 1 is roughly speaking about the protag and how he deals with what happens with and to Madoka. After the (in my opinion fairly strong) prologue, the game does spend some time which certainly feels a little "filler", but this is where most of the game's spooky time lies and it's not bad or anything. After that you get the main-plot. There's also some mystery aspects here and there. For the most part those work out fine, though I felt that one chapter was rather.. convenient. It was a little too obvious what was going on, while the protag needed forever to catch on. (It's where I put the game on-hold) Probably the one biggest weakness of part 1.
Overall I quite liked the mainstory. The main characters were mostly interesting and offered fair and nice moral dilemmas. Villains don't grow on trees and I feel like the more important ones were shown rather nicely with logical backgrounds. In fact, I would've wanted a bit more about some of them. The one on pic related was quite nice. Though at least there are reasons given, and there's no back-paddling. Way too many authors love their drama which doesn't actually exist, because that leads to easy solutions. So the authors just overdramatize everything and leave out information, just so they can end up saying "hey, it's actually not bad and this person is great after all!". Not here. There's enough given to show, that there's a reason why the characters act like they do, and what motivated to them to do so in the first place. It's "understandable" why they ended up like they are, even if it's not acceptable what they do. And I like this grey-ish tone. Won't make a mass-murderer a good guy, but at least you know how that ended up happening and how fucked up and sad the world we live in can be. It's all a fairly nice tragedy.

And then comes part 2, the routes. Oh boy. With the exception of the main-route and a small part of another one, you could think, those come right out of a moege. It kinda makes sense that there's some fluff, story-wise, but that was just.. no. The main-route is the best idea to play, the rest should probably be ignored. This is way too heavy on the "eroge expectations". In fact, one funny thing about the game is how unimportant the heroines are for the story. They have a role in the setting, but the main-story does not really include any of them. It felt rather weird. But of course you need a certain amount of heroines with routes and ero-scenes, or else your game won't sell, so, there you go. Kure doesn't exactly excel at those "moe" scenes though, and the heroines are also honestly not made for that stuff I feel. I also heavily missed a bridge between part 1 and 2 to make the romance a little.. more understandable.
But anyway, the main-route continues the plot of part1 a little bit and gives some nice backgrounds. It's actually a route that feels like it belongs to the game. So I'm not complaining too much there. Though this route does have a fair amount of fluff as well, before it shoves the girl aside and does plot. Yep, the main-heroine doesn't matter. Why would she matter? Could be literally any other girl as well. Made me wonder, why it wasn't just written like that...


Overall I enjoyed the spooky stuff and the main-story quite a bit. Presentation was also fairly nice (over 160cg, fitting atmospheric music) and so on. But the engine is utter garbage. Oh boy. Not as terrible as Chaos;Child's, but it's not that far away.

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This game is cute I don't know why you guys said it's bad, the art and writing is pretty decent.

>>17338698
thats because youre a dumb moebuta

>>17338678
Thanks for the writeup. Is it enforced route order or can you beeline straight for the main route and skip the other stuff?

>>17338678
Yes, Moonstone's engine is garbage, and half the QoL features don't even work right.

>>17337989
You probably didn't wait enough to notice the real problem - that the music doesn't loop.

>>17338698
If you stick to Anzu and Tsubame, sure, the game is even good.

Is Totono worth playing if you know the twist? It seems like a game that's ruined if you know the main gimmick before you play it.

>>17338678
This imouto girl looks like a mega cutie. Although based on the writeup it seems like the heroine routes aren't the game's strength.

>>17340208
Not really, it relies solely on its gimmick. Bad characters, bad writing. Play 水仙花 instead.

>>17340208
It's rather fun even if you know about it, wouldn't have played if I hadn't known, found it pretty solid overall.

>>17335355
Deserved, I also think that Fia is the miracle of the universe screw you guys.

>>17340208
>>17340450
>>17340462
What's the gimmick? Curious and I don't have any desire to play it.

>>17340506
Black haired heroine, Miyuki, is aware of it being a game so when you do her route and then do Aoi's, she snaps and goes batshit because you, the player, cheated on her, cue tons of meta stuff because she has god on dialup.

>>17339182

It doesn't enforce things, which is good, as the other routes have nothing to do with the main-plot. You get a bit about the heroines in question, but with one exception it doesn't feel like it belongs to the game as a route. It's really just mostly fluff.

>>17339744

The main issue I have is that it's SLOW.
From the save of the first "choose one of the 4 girls" to the end of the common route, you skip for like 20 minutes.
There are also certain unskipable parts, and you generally can't skip the waiting time when SFX play to symbolize actions. For example the jingle, when the characters enter a café or whatever, you gotta wait for like 5 seconds for things to continue. And there are quite a few bridges like that, as well as general not skipable effects I guess. Now that stuff wasn't THAT weird 15 years ago, but we are kinda at a point, where you shouldn't be forced to wait for every tine little shit. It's most likely also the reason, why skipping itself is so slow.


>>17340310

I think she's a fine and in some ways perceptive character. The enjoyment of the route really just depends on how much you like her and don't mind a full force moege route in a game, where it.. doesn't fit very well. The route itself is a little about the family and some backgrounds, but I don't think that's very interesting by itself. I guess you could consider it a side-route, but it's not really short enough for that.
But yeah, I don't know about the routes. Maybe Kure isn't that good at romance/SOL. Or maybe that the switch was too sudden (which is quite a problem plot-wise as well), or it doesn't fit very well into the game (even though it kinda makes sense happening). Regardless I didn't really enjoy most of the routes.

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What game is this?
From what I know.
Apparently you date your daughter who's a reincarnation of your loli wife who's your best friend's sister, who's also your osnajimi

>>17340559
The names are clearly visible on the screenshot.

>>17340559
晴のちきっと菜の花びより

>>17340510
On one hand that sounds interesting but on the other hand it sounds like something I would not be a fan of if I didn't know that's what I was signing up for.

>>17340559
There's been several post of this game seemingly out of nowhere in the past thread or two.

>>17340576
Thank you very much

>>17340579
The game is less about the twist and more about what it does after that, which is pretty interesting because a psychotic meta yandere having a mental breakdown is fun.

>>17340510
What happens if you do the other heroine first?

>>17340610
Locked route order, Aoi needs to be pursued hard and her route is fairly unique even without the twist that happens at the end.

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anyone know how to find the URL for a company's dead website? trying to see if a copy survived on web archive but vndb is the only place i can usually find them, for example i'm trying to find the site for あいあい

>>17340043
i did actually notice that but reading normally it didn't seem to be a problem, and no one mentioned it being one

>>17341055
>and no one mentioned it being one

How about inmm.dll manual. That's the thing it fixes.

>>17337338
no.

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>>17340559
Nigga please spoiler those screenshots, I'm playing it right now.
>>17340583
That would be me, if you're referring to the last thread.

>>17340559
I just mentioned it at above, >>17338038

Who started the "guy is trapped in a time-looping pocket universe with several mentally unstable girls and has to give them armchair therapy to get out but the twist is that he's the most mentally unstable of them all" sub-genre anyway? Cross Channel? Or is that just the most famous one? I swear I've seen loads of variations on this theme.

>>17342419
Loops / time travel / alternate worlds have always been naturally popular in VNs thanks to the route system. It lends itself to those stories perfectly. Also I'm not sure what twist you're talking about but the game outright states that Taichi had by far the highest score on the adaptation exam very early into it, nor can I think of any other loop stories with a protagonist like him.

>>17342476
sorry, I ended up getting too specific there. It doesn't have to be time loops, just as long as it's somewhere where the characters are essentially isolated from the rest of the world.

I realize it's a type of story that lends itself well to vns, I was just curious if CC was the first to blend together the whole "closed circle of mentally unstable teens". I haven't read much old stuff so I was wondering how far back the roots go.

>>17342419
Groundhog Day?

>>17342419
We're talking abou vn only? Kusarihime maybe.

>>17342572
Yeah. Meteor did that one, right? Weren't him and Romeo college buddies or something? Wonder if the whole thing came out of some wild booze-filled night out at the bar.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to trace an ancestral family tree, I'm just curious. I'm a bit of a litfag and vn stories do things that don't seem to fit a lot of the usual story conventions. Had to come from somewhere, right?

>>17342419
In pandora no yume the MC ended up the most fucked up of the bunch, but because of the loops themselves, he was pretty healthy otherwise.

>>17341055
Found it by googling, there isn't much archived of it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20040411152923/http://aiai-soft.com:80/
Link to the work page if you were looking for info on their games: https://web.archive.org/web/20040611192317fw_/http://www.aiai-soft.com:80/work.html

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9 more.

>>17341396
Where did you download it?
I've been through subeki, anime-sharing, nemu and I really can't find one with more than 2 seeders and peers.

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Well?

>>17344242
I want to play this buy I can't stand horror. Also sharex is better for screenshots, I think most people use it. Try it.

>>17344355
The horror is light, you should avoid it because the writing is absolute garbage

>>17344355
This one doesn't have any horror as far as I know, though it's got some death and some bad stuff.

Is the quality noticeably bad? I'm used to saving my screenshots to paint so I can give them dumb filenames and put them in the appropriate dumb folders.

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I want to translate Sugarfull Tempering someday. I've never translated a VN before, just songs and doujin books.

>>17344385
no better time to start than the present.

just keep in mind translating a vn is an ungodly long effort and you will most likely give up like a third of the way in when you realize it's been months. oh and translating sex scenes, especially vn ones, is utterly soul-destroying in a way that can't really be explained until you try it yourself.

but fight-o and all that.

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>>17344385
If you ever want help, I'll be glad to so.
I've been wanting to get into translating some VNs for a while.

>>17343799
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BybFSjTDNm4Cdjg2QUk2ODZNZmM/view
Found the vanilla base game on the indonesian translation group page along with 1.01 patch. You have to download 1.02 patch from Parasol site if you want 1 extra route.

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I really feel for Eishi, he essentially made a decision of blue or red, left or right, not pulling the lever of the trolley problem.
Yet he gets shit from most people. I still don't get their animosity if they were in his shoes would they do the same thing with a clear mind? I really think he made a logical choice or a choice that was difficult to make but still did it like a man.

Yurugi really seems to confort him well.
She really has a way with words.
I really love Yurugi for being the sun in this gloomy days.
His motivation to keep on keeping on.
If I were him I'd form a hero association and take on the evil hospital and save the girl.

>>17344501
Wow thanks, what was the site though?
I really should make a list of these.

>>17344514
https://vnherosoft.wordpress.com/
VNDB already listed the site, that's how I found it.

>>17344507
Yurugi's probably the best girl for his mental health, too bad literally everyone else in the story wants otherwise.

>>17344540
Thanks,
they have some pretty decent reviews even if I'm reading through a Indonesian to English Translator.

>In our lives, people we love and we love, could have lost any advance notice, anytime, anywhere. And that's something you can not prevent.
>Through this Visual Novel, perhaps we are told to re-contemplate, that indeed losing someone we love is painful, sad. But how long do we continue to grieve? How long do we continue to blame ourselves?
>No one tells us to forget everything, it's precious memories for us, the foundation for us, so we can become stronger people, and maybe we can find real happiness.

>>17344569
sorry meant to reply to >>17344533
don't know how that happened

>>17340559
>that spoiler
What the actual fuck.
Picked up.

I know you guys may not know, but where can I get japanese fonts like these.
Black outline/shadow with white text.
>>17344471
>>17341396
>>17340559
>>17338698
>>17338678
>>17337791
These seem to be same font. So it might be a well known type of font
.

>>17344385
You should give few more years to study. Even of English and writing. Surely it can't hurt.

And also ask elsewhere as ultimately this isn't a thread for translation discussion of any kind.

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hmmm....

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I wanted a harem end or something for this game or an ending where everybody is happy, and it looks like the game answered me.

It really would solve most of the problems though.

Is there a good site to kind find guides for VNs?

>>17345161
I normally just find stuff on vndb, omochikaeri, on this thread or just when browsing.

>>17345161
Google [VN name in Japanese] 攻略.

>>17344385
How is it anyway? Looks sweet and I'm deciding between it and recette.

>>17345249
Both are garbage.

>>17345249
>>17345251
Both are iyashi-kei, but Shugaten is definitely better, at least it has something going for in the story. Recette is a complete snorefest where literally nothing happens.

>>17344941

You mean it would ignore the problems.

>>17340608
But if you do the routes in the other order nothing happens?

>>17345329
There's no other order.

>>17345300
what?

>>17345357
Harem implies not choosing more than choosing, so by choosing them all you choose no one and solves nothing beyond dicking them all.

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There are five cakes of different flavors. You can't decide on which one to eat, so you eat all five cakes. Unfortunately, that means you didn't eat any cake at all.

>>17345370
>food analogy
Because people are food and hunger is love.

>>17345366
>Harem implies not choosing more than choosing,
What?
That makes no sense.
If anything you choose more than one.

STOP THIS AUTISTIC DISCUSSION YOU DO IT EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH THE EXACT SAME POSTS AND ARGUMENTS AHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17345384
Maybe we should make a "Morality of harem endings in VNs General" for these guys, it'd probably be more active than the rest of this thread.

>>17345370
It means that you didn't indicate which you like the most. Like it or not, in reality people are selfish beings. Harem ends are just unrealistic in our society.

>>17345366

>Friend wants to hang out, other friend wants to hang out. >Instead of choosing one to hang out, you say 'hey why not hang out all together'.
>Sure that sounds fun

>Do you want this dollar bill or that dollar bill?
>Can I have both?
>Sure why not?

>Do you want this free car or this free house?
>Wow I wish i could have both
>Sure thing here you go.

Choosing one when you can choose many is stupid even if you are against harems that argument has no basis.

Still I don't want shitstorm so I'll leave things now.

>>17345394
Love is not the same as friendship or possession of worldly materials

>>17345394
These are all stupid comparisons. It's clear there's a distinct difference in the angle which you guys are looking at this situation. The anon you're replying to is concerned in the actual morals, ethics, feelings, and emotions involved in a harem ending and how those things make such endings inherently unlikely or illogical in our society.

You however seem to be looking at it from the angle of "I want more girls at once in muh porn games." I'm not going to say either of these views are wrong but its clear you guys won't come to an understanding when looking at the situation from such differing angles.

>>17345390
>unrealistic

>Hey look at this 1000 year old loli vampire
>Hey I have enough energy to destroy this planet, yet things aren't revolving around my mass.
>This really attractive 10/10 girl is comepeting with other 10/10 girls for this unattractive normal guy.

>>17345399
>Harem implies not choosing more than choosing,
The argument is wanting more than one things is like choosing nothing, which makes no sense.
Also this is fiction your argument is kinda invalid. It's like saying a love between a monster and human is unreal as they're a different species thus it's a mental problem as they're aren't attracted to their own race.

>>17345405
I just want the girls to be happy. A harem means everybody is happy, it doesn't mean sex. You can just continue your normal days with girls all loving the mc.
>it's not real happiness.
It's fiction, if a robot can love a man and people not be concerned if it's just programming and not real love, or if a tiny loli can bench press a building, this can be true love, if the author writes.

If you say it's unrealistic I say look at all the other unrealistic representation of things in media including love.
If you say they're all mental, then every anime girl is mental, girls who have anger issues and beat up guys, are super stoic and don't know anything about the outside world, girls that a super into their relative. etc.
Consider this my last post on this matter.

>>17345420
>Consider this my last post on this matter.
Your other post was already your "last post". Fucking retarded autist.

>>17345377
Because analogies are literal

>>17345420
And this response makes it even clearer that you are looking at it from a completely different angle. As for the "It's fiction" excuse: people tend to be much more okay with suspending disbelief for the impossible than they are for the improbable. For example: The MC can conjure a fireball in his hand with the snap of his fingers? Okay, sweet. The MC can easily outshooot swathes of trained professionals despite never having held a gun before in his life? Hold the phone, buddy.

1000 year loli vampires, infinite MCs, and ugly boring MCs being surrounded by hordes of cute girls are impossibilities. This is much more acceptable in fiction than a work set in a society 99% like the one in which we live having a harem ending that makes sense. If it's a nukige, then there's pretty much an implicit disclaimer of "Everything you are about to read is just bullshit to for the sake of helping you fap." But for a normal game that isn't the case. People like things to make sense.

>>17345379

X people want a different a and b.
Everyone could share a, but b is impossible.

Harem means, everyone at least drops the wish of b. It's at most a compromise. And because people tend to not just do so, they'd continue right where they stopped, even if you get your technical "harem". Why do you think, problems exist in the first place? If all wishes could just happily co-exist, there'd be no need to struggle and fight. The fact that they CAN'T created the problems.


I really don't know how you can't understand, that when most people romantically love another one, they want to be special and the most important person to this other person. It's natural. Harem forces that to be dropped. There's a difference between friendship and love, and it's exactly that bit. It's what makes love special. If you cut that out, what's the difference between friendship and love?
If you want friendship, that's fine. If you want fuckbuddies, that's fine. If you want to own women, that's fine. But romance tends to be a little different. It's about a significant other, a better half, a soulmate. It's about finding that one special person in your life. Ideally at least. But that ideal is what the romance genre is about and what romance technically is.

There are exceptions, but those usually don't solve the issue either. They are also just as much if not more of a struggle. The requirement for a romantic relationship between more than 2 people is, that everyone loves everyone equally. That's not really a normal harem though, as the girls would obviously struggle themselves between going with one of the other girls, or the MC, just like the MC struggles. All of them need to have the same struggle essentially. You can kinda see an issue already. How likely is that to happen with 5 people or even more?
However, even if that happens, it's not stable. And ignoring that issue is essentially ignoring the problem, which is common in eroge. Which is why I wrote, that it would ignore the problem and not solve it. At the very least with so many characters I'm fairly sure that writing that in a reasonable way is close to impossible, so there'd be no other way other than to ignore the issues. Or have a compromise that doesn't solve anything either.

>>17345452
>infinite MCs
Meant to say infinite energy MCs

I wasn't gonna respond but my but my autism compels me.
I'm just gonna filter after this to stop any urges.

>>17345455
True love is a hollywood/media meme.
We ourselves implemented rules of breeding and polygamy was banned to prevent rich people from taking all potential mates.
Humans want to breed, that's natural.
With nature out of the way.

Sometimes being in love means being away or even leaving the person if that makes them happy.
How can you call that love if you aren't with the person?
Sometimes love means you have to disobey a parent and run away.
Does that mean you didn't love your parent?
Once again, if you can accept love between a robot and human where the robot doesn't really even understand love and is just reciprocating emotions, I don't see what's so hard to get with people being fine with harems. Relationships are all different.
It might not be the amazing love you want with two people loving another but each relationship is different. The people love another equally OR love each other in different ways. Just because you love a parent and your wife doesn't mean it's diminished or if you have a crush on multiple people it doesn't mean it's diminished. Furthermore it's fiction as I keep saying, a person may not be satisfied with a robot in real life but fine in fiction the same way with harems.
Love isn't clear cut.
Harems make everybody happy in the fiction they're in.
Sure you can argue, that love isn't as real as one to one relationships.
However the people in it are happy.
You arguing that people would have problems with another, however that's up to the writer.
if the girls struggle it can make a good story, if they don't maybe the writer can make it interesting in other ways.

>>17345452
Most of those stories involve realism to a degree like the vampire loli going to school or the ugly MC actually having legit relationships.
Why don't you question those relationships?
Why don't you say hey that relationship is so far fetched with the 1000 year old loli drinking blood and nearly killing him almost every day say it's a weird relationship.
The beautiful women being attracted to that man and all fighting over him and say that's a weird relationship there might be something wrong.
Still you accept it and read it and don't throw tantrums.
These stories are meant to entertain nothing more.
I know there might be problems with harems in real life. I just see it as ichaicha and no definite open end.

>>17345558
>Harems make everybody happy in the fiction they're in.
By lobotomizing the cast and never addressing the girls's feelings properly, girls ok with harem ends feel like retards.

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タイトル：バルドブリンガー
原画：あめとゆき、アルデヒド、石神一威、うすめ四郎、菊地政治、きのこむし、蔓木鋼音、緋ノ丘シュウジ、みやま零、もとみやみつき、夜ノみつき（50音順）
シナリオ：科、企画屋
ジャンル：サイバーバンクアクションアドベンチャー
発売時期：10月27日発売予定

>>17345558
If you're gonna do this at least spell something out with the capitals.

>>17345571
>シナリオ：科、企画屋
no

>>17345571
If the author gets an editor it may be good, I quite liked zero, but the text was super dull and long winded for no reason.

>>17345571
So it's the last Baldr game? They should've picked a better writer.

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I will never understand this general's hatred for wanting multiple women.

>>17345774
Loyalty is the most important thing to me. How can I be loyal to multiple women when they will eventually turn on eachother in jealousy because women are idiots and think with emotion instead of logic?

>>17345801
>women when they will eventually turn on eachother in jealousy because women are idiots and think with emotion instead of logic?
Be honest. If you were sharing 1 girl with 3 dudes, would you "be logical" and wait your turn while the other dudes are fucking her? Doubt. (and if you say "i just wouldn't be in a 3m1g harem, well, that's why people dont like 3g1m harems!)

>>17345815
I would be the girl in that situation if I were to allow myself to be in a situation such as that.

>>17345870
That's a roundabout way of saying "I just wouldn't be in a 3m1g harem", to which I repeat: That's why people don't like 3g1m harems: they recognize that they're only reasonable/good from the perspective of the 1, and not the 3.

>>17345774
Harems are great, mang.

What I dislike is your typical "sex is bad" (aka fearful of any sexual advances or innuendo) sheep-like and feminine protagonist made for a Japanese loser to self-insert getting a harem. It does not make sense.

Take Utawarerumono, for instance. Hakuoro's made sense - he was this silent, alpha dude taking the top spot and leading everyone else where we wanted to go. Awkward re: sex, but it made sense why all the girls wanted a piece of him.

Now take Uta 2's Haku, the passive faggot. And yet you have girls like Kuon and Rurutie falling head over heels with him. Or Uta 3's Haku/Oshtor who is suddenly a pussy magnet to girls like Sis and Atoui (who should have wiped their asses with him) just because he's now a second fiddle to the powers-that-be?

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stream, kickstarters and other american intervention finaly killed untranslated eroge now

>>17345895
Haku is great dude. Far from the usual beta protag.

>>17345897
They're a decade behind

>>17345774
I can't speak for everyone else, but I am completely fine with actual harems in nukige. In any other ge, they are unnecessary and ruin pretty much every character involved. In order for harems to work you have to turn the heroines into completely mindless slaves who only live for MC's dick to the point where they ignore or even get along with other girls and you have to turn MC into complete selfish trash, which is why I feel it doesn't belong in actual romance games or eroge with serious plot.

>>17345920
Yeah we got it dude. You made this post like hundred times by now.

>>17345774
They're great wish we had more actual harem VNs(Non-nukige) where the girls even make up rules in regards to household and stuff instead of the usual Harem endings. Would be amusing.

>>17345589
Zero had a lot of annoying info dumps, but I really loved the characters, especially Fran and Sakura.

>>17345920
Do you actually copy paste this thing or write a new one at each time?

>>17327724
ixrecs tl is garbage and ghs is 90% fanfic

>>17345558
>Why don't you question those relationships?
Because it's a logical extension of how potentially a relationship like that might go if such things existed. The thing is they don't so there's a lot more free reign there. When it comes to harems its something that actually can exist, but doesn't in any area with a reasonable amount of women's rights because it just doesn't hold up.

>>17346112
We get it dude
>Muh realism
>Muh women rights

>>17341104
never heard of that before and didn't look into it, seems interesting though and might give it a try for some games

>>17342832
nothing i tried got me any results, what exactly did you google to find that? i actually just wanted to triple check that they didn't release any patches for their games

>>17346112
>When it comes to harems its something that actually can exist, but doesn't in any area with a reasonable amount of women's rights

>doesn't in any area with a reasonable amount of women's rights

I've moved 3-4 schools in different countries when I was a kid, and every school had a popular guy/s who all the cute girls slept with / wanted to sleep with while rest had to deal with uglies/fatties/LTR.

I made a fuck buddy later on who told me about the "big boys" in town - guys who the "cute, innocent" girls she knew kept fucking while keeping their boyfriends/husbands as safety nets.

Harems aren't fantasy, sad story but true.

>>17346291
That's not a harem though, just plain cheating no feelings involved.

>>17346214
I don't even give a shit about women's rights though. Just pointing out that in civilized society harems are nearly nonexistent.

>>17346291
That's a couple girls sleeping around cheating on their husband. Definitely not the type of harem we're talking about here, if you'd even call that a harem in the first place, which I suspect most people wouldn't.

>>17346541
So is incest, but nobody ever complains about that one.

>>17346548
You have a point to an extent, but incest is definitely much more common. But leaving it purely at that would be losing sight of the original issue. Despite its frequency in real life, it's much less far fetched. I personally know of multiple people who've dabbled in some incest at one point or another. Although not brother-sister like most VNs tend to be.

>>17344242
Nope, perfectly ok

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>>17346548
Different anon chiming in here, I think the reason you can get away with incest is because a writer can come up with a variety of halfway believable reasons why two blood-related people would want to fuck without particularly needing to warp their personalities too much. It also helps the reader is usually willing to meet them halfway in terms of suspending disbelief.

For harems, you either have to lobotomize a big chunk of what we expect a normal (or normal for 2D at least) person to act like, or else come up with some truly extravagant circumstances in order to make it plausible (see Harukuru for a good example). Or else the reader is willing to meet them all the way over on the other side and don't really care about a sense of realism (see harems in typical nukige).

t. biased incest fan

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>>17346559
I know a guy in high school that got transferred out of school rumor has it because his parents found out he was fucking his sister.

I dated a girl in college who admitted to me after about 4 dates that she was in love with her brother and it wasn't fair that god gave her the only boy she would ever love and made him her brother.

And finally I worked in a home for troubled boys for a season and all of them there (about 6 total while I worked there) were there for raping a sister. Because the family doesn't want to send their own boy to jail the only thing to do is put them in a home for troubled boys and they end up here. One boy tried to convince me that the whole thing was consensual and he was only there because his sister cried rape after their parents found out in order to avoid getting in trouble. Sad to say that I believed him.

I am utterly convinced that incest is far more prevalent than people want to admit but social norms prevent people from talking about it.

>>17346247
"あいあい" "秘女一夜" ウェブサイト

Led me to http://www.paradisearmy.com/L92GA.HTM which had the site address.

>>17346585
Just going to add that no one here is attacking harems. I'm perfectly fine with a good harem if its in the right time/place (99% of the time a nukige). It's just I suppose I feel the need to point out why using harems to "solve everything" in non-nukige would be extremely jarring and unrealistic most of the time.

>>17346604
>I am utterly convinced that incest is far more prevalent than people want to admit but social norms prevent people from talking about it.

Yeah I would 100% believe that. You have those rapes you mentioned being hushed and put on the down low. Then you also have probably 95% of consensual cases being completely carried out in secret due to the people involved not being idiots and knowing that if it got out their lives would be ruined.

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>>17346628
Wasn't attacking anything either, just trying to provide a reasonable explanation for why people are more willing to suspend disbelief for incest.

I get what the anon who sparked all this is feeling though, I mean with the vn he's reading, the writer has what I'm pretty sure is an actual fetish for making the reader feel awful about only being able to make one girl happy at the expense of the others. The intended feeling for you to come away from his stuff is, 'if only there was some way to make everyone happy', hence why a lot of the drama works.

But of course the answer is always 'well there isn't, so pick the one you most wanna see with her shirt off/the one with the saddest backstory and deal with it'.

Recommendations for non moege, down to earth romance eroge? Stuff like Koi de wa Naku I guess

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Let's take a break from girls.

>>17346541
>civilized society harems are nearly nonexistent
I guess it's usually much easier to justify it in fantasy settings.

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>>17346713
Bokunatsu and skiokaze from the same writer

>>17346713
WA2, Symphonic Rain, Crescendo, Teninai

>>17346738
>bokunatsu
>down to earth romance

>>17346742
Teninai is extremely stupid and not just because it's 'depressing' it's realistic.
Symphni rain too, the whole thing is way too far from realistic.

why is there so much autism in the anime community? fuck this im quittig anime and going full time on eroge.

>>17346765
Didn't know this thread was about anime.

Does anyone know if Dies irae has been released yet?

>>17346713
Are Koinaku's non-true routes painful to read? I'm not sure to get this or not, since I don't like the idea of having to get the mandatory 'bad' endings several times before being able to get the true route with happy ending, especially if the drama is retarded or forced, but I like the concept of main couple in one game with their own POV and characterization instead of one male protagonist and bunch of romanceable heroines.

>>17346806
The one focused on Tasuku is good, the second one is decent and the last one is unneeded.
They are not bad endings either.

>>17346793
No.

>>17346818
Do you happen to know when it's getting released?

>>17346826
Oh anon, why don't you just google it instead of asking simple question like that in the thread for untranslated VNs?

>>17346841
I can't use that website for various reasons, sorry.
So do you happen to know about my question?

>>17346826
9.29, that's about three months after the English release by the way. Also pretty much exactly twice as expensive. Rough time for eroge fans incapable of reading in English.

>>17346849
>9.29
Is that a date? I can't read this weird format. Please use either European or American formats.

>>17346559
>>17346585
The only difference I see here is that harems require a more open mind than incest does.

When does Aokana get good?

https://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/2017/07/19/july-2017-eroge-releases/#more-33228

>>17346906
Golden Hours, Dreamers 2, Shin Koihime

>>17346906
Probably nothing unless golden hour doesn't suck in everything but one route. Yay!

>>17346885

Once the kana turn ao.

>>17346906
Apeiria, backlog.

>>17346875

I'm not even that sure about it. The value for a single girl goes down hard in eroge, as most people just go through them girl by girl. You see a romance with all of them anyway, so might as well do it at the same time, right...? In a way, harem is more honest here.
It's a good reason to watch some anime or read a manga every now and then. I personally value characters that don't have routes/ero in eroge quite highly for that reason as well. And why I dislike when a sequel/fandisc only comes out to to "fix" that, especially if there's a reason for why there wasn't any route/ero.

>>17346817
>They are not bad endings either.
Elaborate, please? They're 'male MC did not get female MC' endings, right?

>>17346906
Moonstone, Vanadis and Campus are confirmed PlayDRM
Can't wait to see which brands join the DRM train this month

>>17346875
If you leave your mind too open your brain will fall out.

Anyone here ever play this? If so any opinions on it?

>>17347062
https://vndb.org/v9913#main

I'm a fucking idiot and forgot the link.

>>17345801
Are you serious? Men are even worse when it comes to jealousy. Did you forget all those otaku who sperg out every few months or all those guys who hit or even kill their girlfriends? Wow so logical and rational. Kill yourself.

What are some (perferably English-speaking) VN blogs I should be following? Any youtubers?

I only know of hau omochikaeri and need more knowledgeable VN people in my life.

>>17347181
Anons stay stupid shit all the time dude no need to get so worked up

>>17347226
Erogamescape

>>17346744
?

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Has anyone here read this?

Someone recommend me something decently hard to read

>>17347717
>>17347672

>>17347717
>For harems, you either have to lobotomize a big chunk of what we expect a normal (or normal for 2D at least) person to act like

Quite a few eroge already have several girls attracted to the mc to begin with, harems just continue that, rather than focusing it.

>>17347748
I agree that is also a hard Visual novel

>>17347748
meant to quote>>17346585

How long do you guys think i'll take to be able to read VN in Moonpanese like a retarded 4years old?
i'm pretty good with languages, and i now after a tons of anime understand a bit of Jap, (not to mention as a ESL i literally learnt english with manga and anime translations).
I've just started to stop fapping and instead searching Vn with an actual plot, and now i sit here learning the basic with googletranslator in a tab to help me.
How cancerous am i at this point?

>>17347672
Yes, can't really recommend it unless you've already gone through raiLsoft's entire catalogue

>>17348051
Look mate, just get started 'reading' those porn games this very night. Fake it til you make it is basically this threads M.O., and with the great aptitude for languages you are displaying I reckon you'll be up there with the rest of us in a jiffy.

>>17329694
Does anyone know what the easiest way to play Higurashi fully voiced on PC would be?

>>17348051
We hate harems, lolis, moege and japanese.
Your questions falls into the last.

Does anyone else feel that people overrate Hiei's writing ability when it comes to Baldr? I've seen a lot of people complaining about the Zero guy working on the new Baldr game, but it's not like Hiei was some god-tier scenario writer in the first place. Baldr Sky's scenario was pretty mediocre. None of the characters had much going for them and most of them were pretty forgettable. The way the concept of AI was handled in the baldr unvierse ended up being extremely retarded, and the true route turned into a shitfest from chapter 9 onwards.

I think the only reason people overrate Baldr Sky is either because it's an eroge and thus people go into it without many expectations in the first place, or they control'd through the story and played only the gameplay segments. I don't know much about this Zero guy, but Baldr hasn't really been known for it's amazing scenario.

>>17348304
Just remember that zero was even worse.

>>17348304

I haven't played Zero, but Hiei has some major issues with villains, at least for me. I just don't enjoy villains, that kick cats and laugh in weird ways, but don't do much else. Especially Gilbert, who dies in ways that'd make him eligible for the Darwin award, but is still taken seriously by people. Especially the protagonist, who just LOVES to scream at him to stop and get angry at that sad brainless bastard.
In addition to that, you have literal rpg boss-dialogue going on as well. You know, the kind of cutscene that only exists, because you have to have a scene before the characters beat up the boss. Even if everyone knows that the boss will be fought, first of all you have to tell them how wrong it is what they are doing, and that they should stop.

It's weird. Sometimes he tries to give the bad guys a little bit of background, so you can actually understand what they are doing, but soon enough he goes straight back to "kick the kitten" type stuff. I did like the different factions, with different ideas they fight for, the overall setting and whatnot. But most of the villains were a massive disappointment for me, because the whole setting just crumbles.

>>17348347
>first of all you have to tell them how wrong it is what they are doing, and that they should stop
but this is like anime writing 101, everyone knows you can't win a fight unless you first prove you are correct and they are wrong. it's like calling out your attack names, if you don't, then we all know it's not gonna defeat the villain.

the sad thing is I'm being facetious but a lot of people have come to expect this sort of thing due to years and years of basic pattern recognition.

but I ain't even read any of the Baldur's Gate series so what do I know.

>>17348304
I unironically think that Baldr Sky is the best game/vn I have ever played. I enjoyed every minute of playing it. The prose is mediocre at best, but the way he crafted the story and how each successive route slowly unveiled the truth while diving into each heroines' arcs kept me enthralled for the whole 50+ hour journey. I thought the "twist" in the final route was genius and the final deux ex machina was both justified and fully gratifying since it was foreshadowed way back in the first route.

Baldr Heart on the other hand, was a complete let down. Didn't care for any of the characters, the setting, or the story.

I haven't played Baldr Force.

Looking at the other games Hiei has written, he seems like a one trick pony to me.

Are there any good sites other than amazon, surugaya, yahoo auctions, and mandarake to get used VN 特典?