Vocaloid Thread

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Halloween edition? Halloween edition.

inb4 thread gets derailed by the "marketing vs sexuality" debate again and reaches post limit before the 31st

>>15994609
Well I'm no critic but for your first EP it's okay.
Koritsu and Broken dolls sound poorly mixed it's just confusing to listen to can't really describe it.
Mass Paroxysm is the best track there for me.

Also the sound cloud player is fucking awful holy shit.

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>>15994382
i hate it when tags aren't correct first thing out of the archive. here's a fixed link

>Party Junkie [WAV].rar (363MB)
https://mega.nz/#!BMNyGIDb!_hMwPayePlInxCqHzaXAwFktzBLrFzpqq5zuh0Z0SlM

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Would anyone happen to have アヒル童話 please?
http://vocadb.net/Al/12199
http://www5.atwiki.jp/hmiku/pages/16531.html
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14646790

From VOM@S 16.

Miku Expo officially announced for China this December. You thought it was over, but it keeps getting bigger.

>>15997985
Good, that means Miku will come back to California soon. Visual is also really good.

>>15997985
>EU still getting boned
JUST

>>15998017
>he actually thinks CFM cares about Europe.

There's no Vocaloid scene in existence (try and name 3 notable European producers) and they are already a few fanmade events anyways. Europe already got THE END opera, and that's that.

Europe doesn't make money and that's the truth.

>playing f2nd on vita
>come up to technical zone(s) on Kagerou Daze
>game starts reading single scratch inputs as either multiple scratches close together or no scratch at all
I'm livid.

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I really like ATOLS's stuff, especially some of the more weird stuff he makes, less so the dubstep stuff.
キメラ is probably one of my favorite songs by him.
宇宙大規模11次元構造体 is also really good.
Anyone have anything to recommend that's similar?

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>>15998206
You're not using the sticks?

>>15999577
God, which Project Diva has this dialogue?

>>15999577
What did she mean by this?

>>15999660
F 2nd Diva Room

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wow i did it, good job me

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Thoughts on the new reol album?

>>16002434
not vocaloid so fuck off for starters, also reol's voice sounds like fucking garbage

>>16002434
See
>>16002494

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>>15999577
Nope, was using touch screen. Can't get myself used to the analog sticks.

>>16001886
gg I still can't get past the halfway mark

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Why is Deco*27 so based.

>>16002919
It's hard to believe people can prefect this. I know they do it but it's ridiculous. I wonder how much of it is reading vs memorization.

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Is Migu gay?

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>>16004007
If that was the case, how would you explain this?

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>>16004007
That's not even Migu.

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>>16003702
This album is good as fuck.

>>16004368
didnt even bother downloading it d e s u

>>16004149
B-but she got a close hair color and a somewhat similar hairstyle, it's literally miku haha!

>>16004123
>Miku x Kaito
Ew

i wish Crypton got Hidari to do the new art or someone who's art didn't look so stiff and lifeless.

>>15997985
I wonder if this is part of the reason the DVD hasn't been announced yet. Maybe it's going to have footage from every country, so it won't be done until after they have this show.

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>posting a picture of miku saying "delete" is against the rules according to some autist janitor

>>16002434
Not bad, but I expected more from Giga and Reol. No title- and Gokusaishiki were a lot better.

>>16002494
I think it's fine talk about utaites here, since they're closely related to the vocaloid scene. Also Reol's voice sounds great.

>>16005586
utaites are iffy, and then that's if and only if it's a cover of a vocaloid song.
if it's a nonvocaloid work, it has no business in a vocaloid thread. pretty simple. reol is not "vocaloid related"

>>16005617
Reol wrote the lyrics for several popular vocaloid songs, and became famous within the vocaloid community for that and for her covers. She is vocaloid related.

>>16005991
She's a has been. If she was writing Vocaloid lyrics now for a song published today, then she would be permitted. But she did lyric writing years ago and at this rate is slowly moving toward a debut career away from the Vocaloid scene

Now fuck off, 3DPD is disgusting and her fans are absolute cancer.

>>16005991
when and if she makes a new vocaloid song, then it's vocaloid related. a song or album that has no vocaloid vocals on it is not vocaloid related.
this isn't a difficult concept. song has no vocaloid in it, it's not vocaloid related.

>>16006010
lol "permitted"
honestly, since most people in this thread are familiar with utaite, it's not completely outrageous to talk about them here, and the same goes for utau and stuff
it's just like talking about the careers of vocaloid producers outside of the vocaloid scene, and reol is a well-known figure in the vocaloid community
why make other threads specifically for utaite or utau or cevio when really a lot of the same people are participating in these conversations. not everything we talk about in this thread has to be something everyone is interested in, like the sega games and certain genres of music. let's just talk about it all here, it's basically all one fanbase anyways

>>16006229
>not everything we talk about in this thread has to be something everyone is interested in
no one is saying you can only discuss things everyone is interested, just that we keep it down to things related to vocaloid.
honestly, is it so much to ask that we keep the vocaloid thread related to vocaloid?

>>16006010
>But she did lyric writing years ago
Two years isn't such a big time.
>at this rate is slowly moving toward a debut career away from the Vocaloid scene
That's just speculation. We don't know that for sure.

>>16006031
Reol, the same way as Giga, will always be "vocaloid related" since they are (were, maybe) vocaloid producers. If a song or album with no vocaloid vocals is made by a (ex) vocaloid producer, it has relation with the vocaloid scene, even if little.
Now, whether it is "related enough" to be posted here it's a subjective matter.

>>16006229
I agree with you. These vocaloid threads are slow anyway, it wouldn't hurt talk about utaites and such here.

>>16006229
Please make your own utaite thread on /jp/ so we can just change the subject already. You seem to be the only one who even cares about Reol. Your argumentation of wanting to post Reol is lowering the quality of this thread overall.

Besides, utaites were a thing before Vocaloid fandom was even a thing, NND had utaites that covered other songs. Utaites are not solely vocaloid related, they branch out from other fandoms as well.

Utaites is NND culture so make your own utaite thread or you can just fuck off.

Also, read >>16006253
Just in case you still don't get it.

>>16006256
Can we talk about the upcoming Yakuza 6 game? Y'know, Sega made Vocaloid games in the past, so that means Sega is Vocaloid related, right? So it should be fine if we talk about Yakuza. After all, these threads are so slow, there's no problem with completely running them into the ground with off topic garbage.

>>16006285
Only if they make project diva a playable arcade game in Yakuza 7

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>>16006285
Kek, this guy gets it

>>16006274
not the guy who posted the reol album, just saying i think multiple people in this thread would be interested
it's just easier to have all this vocaloid-related stuff in one place, and reol has definitely made a name for herself in the vocaloid fanbase so what she's doing now is relevant, however tangentially. we've had many less interesting and less related topics than reol
some people in this thread might never find the designated utaite or utau or cevio thread, this way the question can reach as many interested people as possible
you can ignore it if you aren't interested, is it that difficult?

>>16006285
weren't we talking about that producer who left vocaloid to form his own band a while ago? it's just interesting to see people move on with their careers and compare their new stuff with their old stuff, it's not like this guy's trying to turn the whole thread into an utaite conversation
also, sega is a large company and vocaloid is only a fraction of what it's known for, reol has been primarily known for vocaloid-related stuff her whole career, that's not even a comparison

>>16006366
It is easy to keep all the Vocaloid related stuff in one place, that's what the thread is for. If GigaP or Reol made a Vocaloid, it'd be more than welcomed here. They have, however, not made a Vocaloid album, this, it is not welcomed here, as made evident by the arguing.

>>16006274
>You seem to be the only one who even cares about Reol.
There's at least three people posting in favor of Reol here.

>>16006436
Guess what, all 3 faggots are the ones clogging up the thread and derailing it. GJ Reol fags for shitting up a thread.
Read this if they're still confused as to why people are annoyed >>16006388

To summarize: Reols newest album does NOT feature any vocaloids. Therefore it doesn't belong here. Discuss it somewhere else.
>b-but my Reol and Giga-P were involved in Vocaloid
Two wrongs don't make a right. Also re-read this sentence
"This album that anons want to talk about does NOT feature any Vocaloids"
Reol fags need to make an utaite thread and fuck off.

This is "Vocaloid thread" not "Vocaloid culture thread". Do I need to spoon feed it anymore now or does it make sense now?

>>16006476
what about utau?

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>>16006488
Utau is a synth like Vocaloid so people don't mind as much compared to utaites.
There's more connections since Utau wouldn't exist without Vocaloid. Utaites have existed before Vocaloid so it's not as closely connected.

>>16006494
despite whichever one came first, they're still very closely related. utau and vocaloid share the same function, utaite and vocaloid share (mostly) the same songs. they're just connected in different ways

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>>16006532
Yeah, utaites cover Vocaloid songs. I don't mind stuff like that. It's when people try to post an utaites original album (not featuring any vocaloids or Vocaloid original songs) that's just outright annoying.

It would be like me posting about Bump of Chicken and their newest album in this thread because awhile back Bump of Chicken had a collab song with Hatsune Miku. It's ok to talk about the collab song with Miku here since it featured Miku, but it's not okay to talk about Bump of Chicken's newest discography just because they interacted with Vocaloid in the past.

I hope the braindead Reol fags will eventually get it and just make their own utaite thread.

>>16006532
Where's the line? Can I post Anamanaguchi here? Or Wagakki Band? Or The M Machine?

>>16006556
idk i think it's reasonable to ask about people's thoughts on the album, like how it compares to her old style of singing or songs, since giga worked on it too. it's just talking about how some prominent vocaloid figures have branched out and comparing it to old stuff and speculating about the future

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>>16006584
Read >>16006556
You can talk about the past Vocaloid collaborations those musicians have done but you can't talk about their recent discography if it doesn't involve Vocaloid. It's very simple once you think about it.

>>16006589
okay stop with the dumb examples. reol and giga are clearly very well-known people in the vocaloid fandom whom many vocaloid fans would be interested in. anamanaguchi opened for a concert like once. and we still talked about their songs too when that news came out.
idk much about the wagakki band, but from what i've read they take vocaloid songs and combine it with japanese instruments and a rock style? so that's not too far off from the vocaloid jazz sessions, is it?

>>16006556
>I hope the braindead Reol fags will eventually get it and just make their own utaite thread.
See >>16006031 and >>16006366

>>16006476
>all 3 faggots are the ones clogging up the thread and derailing it.
Actually, it's the people complaining about Reol that are derailing the thread. You see, this all started with >>16002434 and if people hadn't started complaining about the Reol posting, the only reply would be >>16005586 and we could move along with the thread with no body getting mad. Is it that hard just ignore a few posts?

>>16006642
>See >>16006031 and >>16006366
Wrong quote. It's actually >>16006229 and >>16006366

>>16006604
meant to quote >>16006584

Why does this thread attract so many SJW retards. I swear we always have the same shitheads arguing about stupid shits.

Are you coming straight from VO or something? Go fuck back off.

>>16007383
How is that SJW though?

Can we talk about sexy mmds here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM56bE5q7J8

>>16007457
Only the cute ones that lewd ones go to /e/

Hey this is kinda vague but does anyone happen to remember that mmd somebody posted here a while ago where there were like two rows of different Miku models staying in place and all doing the same thing?

>>16007457
What's with MMD's and this song?
I hear it all the damn time.

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Looking for Setsuna Code in 320k by Last Note please. Mikudb only has it in 170k and it sounds like crap.

Flac is fine too but I'd end up having to convert it to 320k anyway since I lack space. Pretty please.

>>16007457
They belong to /e/ and /h/.
There are even general threads for discussing them.

>>16007833
There's A LOT of MMD's of the Maria, Miume and Niina dance covers of Maria's songs (Girls, Lamb, Pink Cat and Gokuraku Jodo). Gokuraku Jodo, particularly, started receiveing a shit ton of MMD videos a couple weeks ago, for some reason.

>>16002494
Holy shit fuck off, reol has actually been collaborating with gigaP on vocaloid songs and I think she has actually wrote the lyrics for somw giga songs, only a newfag who mostly plays projectdivas would call her "unrelated to vocaloid".

I do agree tho that talk related to utaites and their albums belongs to another thread.

>>16008603
I don't care if Reol had been composing vocaloid songs for 9 years, if she makes a song or album that doesn't have vocaloid vocals on it, it doesn't go in the vocaloid thread. She isn't "related to vocaloid" just because she wrote some lyrics or did some covers. Her vocaloid songs are vocaloid related because they have vocaloid vocals on them.
I can't believe how difficult this is for some people to understand.

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>last thread was destroyed with arguments about lewd figures
>this thread destroyed with arguments about some 3dpd slut

>>16008716
it really doesn't help that it's reol of all people
maybe if supercell or hitorie our anyone relevant or talented, there wouldn't've been a shit show, but it had to be REOL

I don't know REOL but somehow Youtube kept pestering me with her today in the video recommendations so I ended up watching that 2 millions view video and it was awful. She's gross.

>>16008716
>this thread destroyed
We are still on 70 replys, this thread will be fine if people just stop talking shit.

>>16008729
>Reol is not relevant or talented
Nice bait, faggot.

Can we drop this discussion already?

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What is the point of this trend that has appeared during the recent years of featuring your own OCs on your Vocaloid story-songs?

I just don't get it. I would if there were no alternatives to the vocaloid software but, why would you spend around 3000Y on some virtual singer to roleplay your OC when you can just a) download a fairly decent quality UTAU, b) collab with some uttaite (something like Sound Horizon did) c) even sing it yourself. In top of that most of Vocaloid OC songs tend to have a poor tunning quality and the vocaloid singer just really feels like a placeholder in these songs.

Not ranting or anything, I'm just really curious about what other people thing about this. In my case normally I find OC songs to have a 3edgy5me story and designs so I directly ignore them.

>>16008836
it's not bait, mate, reol is shit
she's only popular because gigap makes good songs

>>16008852
They want the BRS audience.

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>>16008852
>What is the point of
People expressing themselves artistically.
>a) download a fairly decent quality UTAU, b) collab with some uttaite (something like Sound Horizon did) c) even sing it yourself.
no
To a lot of people and artists Vocaloid are instruments rather than characters. Pretty sure that if we'd make the count, there are actually much, much more songs featuring stories, themes, etc, completely unrelated to Vocaloid rather than ones that do. It's just that newfriends like you are mostly attracted to Vocaloid songs putting the characters themselves ahead, and thus why those songs have more views, then you get a snowball effect, with artists like MichieM easily attracting people but artists like １０日P not having a quarter of his total views because he put his personal feelings and creations over easy pandering.

I'm not judging, I love everything in the Vocaloid scene, but to me you're simply a holding a very limited perspective on all of this. There is nothing that says people shouldn't use Vocaloid the way they like, if anything, it's all the opposite, it's wonderful what Vocaloid has to offer, artistically and creativity-wise.

>>16008875
Brs was more of a theme though. It didn't feature a storyline revolving around the character like Kagepro did for example.

>>16008206
saw someone post a picture of their physical copy of that a few threads ago.

>>16008852
>>16008882
Getting famous as a vocaloid producer is easier than as a nico indie artist. And being famous for a vocaloid story song allows you to make money writting light novels about your story afterwards.

>>16008882
>newfriends like you

I've been here since 2009 smartass. Nice strawman asuming that due I don't like edgy OCs that means I have to be a newfag that just discovered Miku and friends.

>Pretty sure that if we'd make the count, there are actually much, much more songs featuring stories, themes, etc, completely unrelated to Vocaloid rather than ones that do.

Not really, I think we would find songs about random themes in general. I was talking about songs with a fixed storyline and OCs than something sporadical. You may find songs with a picture of a random character like for puting any random example this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLZcsPYdRII where the P simply chosed not to feature Miku on the video and it has very little relevance to the song.

> like １０日P not having a quarter of his total views because he put his personal feelings and creations over easy pandering.

Woah, now it turns out using the Vocaloid characters everyone knows vocaloid for it's pandering. Look, I think you didn't get was I talking about. I was talking about OC songs in the style of Kagepro, which involves storylines and such. I'm fine most of songs that just don't have a kawaii uguu vocaloid drawing in their video, I was just wondering about people who seem to come up with a whole story and characters from 0 and for some reason instead of using any other media they decide to make vocaloid songs. Nothing wrong with that but I noticed tons of them the last years and I feels more like a "trend" that many new artists follow because everyone does it now, like when in 2010 sagas featured Vocaloids instead.

> but to me you're simply a holding a very limited perspective on all of this. There is nothing that says people shouldn't use Vocaloid the way they like, if anything, it's all the opposite, it's wonderful what Vocaloid has to offer, artistically and creativity-wise.

Not judging, but why to get so defensive for a simple question? People comes up with new ideas and other people may like them or not. Apart that you completely missed the point of my post, some people (specially people who's been here before than you and has seen how things have evolved over time) may disagree with other what other people does. Nothing wrong with that.

Which year you entered vocaloid? Out of curiosity.

>>16008965
>edgy OCs
stopped reading there

>>16008968
Aww, did I offended you, sweetheart?

>>16008977
for that you'd have to learn English first

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anyone else ever have an issue being able to set folders and filenames with japanese characters on windows 10? they just show up as question marks. the search results for this problem are polluted with issues i'm not having, so i can't figure out how to fix it.

>>16008852
What difference would it make if they made the song with vocaloid vs human singers? 99% of the time, when people use vocaloid, it's because they don't have access to good human vocals. This is made evident by artists that "graduate" from vocaloid.
But anyway, I think the point is if you want to build a world and tell a story with characters in it, you're gonna need to make characters. The vocalist is only there to tell the story, but the story isn't about them. Not many songs with Miku in them have Miku being Miku, if that makes sense. Miku is just singing a song, but she's not telling her story, just a story.

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>>16008965
You typed a lot of words there but somehow ended up missing the most important parts of my post.
>People expressing themselves artistically.
>To a lot of people and artists Vocaloid are instruments rather than characters.
And that's it.
To give you an idea, myself I have projects I'm working on and the idea of using Vocaloid for the music/OST went through my mind. It's in no way to follow some sort of "trend" or anything like that, it's simply because for so many years now I've exclusively listened to Vocaloid music/artists, it's a really important part of my life so it wouldn't be odd to use Vocaloid (as instruments) to help building what I'm trying to achieve. I assume the more or less the same happens for other people. Does it help?

It's your right to not like it, but to literally say they should be using means other than Vocaloid to build their own little world is just silly, people are free to use Vocaloid if they like them as instruments.
>Woah
Like I said I'm not bothered in the slightest, I was just saying things as they are, although it might have sounded accusing. I love everything about Vocaloid.

>I noticed tons of them the last years and I feels more like a "trend" that many new artists follow because everyone does it now
Could you explicitly tell us who? It'd have helped getting your message across better. You're telling me I'm missing your point but while I understand why you think I do, I'm not exactly missing it actually. A lot of artists have OCs and stories as well, they're just less obvious because either the musical style isn't something that'd get super popular as opposed to something like Last Note's stuff, or because they didn't promote themselves with good artists/PVs. There's also the fact that 99% of non-Japanese Vocaloid fans can't speak the language and thus can't really tell whether an album has a story, etc or not. Now if you mean promoting manga/LNs/etc, alright, it's already more niche.

I started listening to Vocaloid thanks to Double Lariat; I don't remember what year it was.

>>16009014
You probably need to install Japanese into your computer. Never used Win10 so I don't know how to do it but googling it should help.

>>16009014
I don't use 10, but it's probably because you have no fonts or unicode isn't installed or something.

Do they show up anywhere?
Can you see these? あいえおう

>>16009153
yes I can see Japanese displayed in all programs. I have Japanese IME installed and I can even type it, but I can't copy and paste it.

>>16009176
Huh, then it shouldn't be either of those things.
I really have no idea, sorry.

>>16009198
蝶々P feat. 初音ミク - 世界の終わり
can copy into firefox, but not file explorer. perhaps this is a problem with Segoe UI font, but it shouldn't be. the only other possible cause i can think of is windows 10 is fucking garbage.

>>16009254
>the only other possible cause i can think of is windows 10 is fucking garbage.
Nah, it's a problem on your machine. If you can type Japanese, then just rename the folder.

>>16009254
But you can manually name the files in file explorer and it shows up correctly?

Only thing I can think of is a) try changing the font, and b) try running jp locale.

Neither of these should be necessary to copy text though.

>>16009269
thing is, I'm organizing my vocaloid collection. I've got over a thousand albums and folder names to change. Manually typing them out would be torture. Plus I can't read kanji well.

>>16009274
oh great I just looked it up and Microsoft has removed the option to change your system's default display font. The only way to do it is with some fishy registry hack. There has to be a simpler solution.

I'm pasting from different sources, firefox to file explorer and foobar to file explorer, still changing all the characters to question marks. Windows 10 was a mistake.

looks like windows 10 doesn't support app locale anymore either. I shouldn't have to change my entire system locale to Japanese just to paste text, when I can view and type it just fine.

>>16009014
Is it completely properly tagged? I got this issue because I didn't realize I didn't have the file names saved with the right tags to read the Japanese text.

...although this shouldn't affect just naming the folders though... so this is probably not it.

>>16009371
yes the album is properly tagged. id3v2.3|id3v1 both present and I'm testing different albums, all are pasting into file explorer as question marks.

weird thing is, it doesn't turn into question marks until i commit the rename change to the folder. when it's pasted in and in edit mode, it's displaying just fine.

Just realized I can't even type Japanese into a folder name either. I can type 日本語 anywhere else.

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Could I get MAYU song recommendations please?

What are the most popular songs that come to mind when thinking of MAYU / the ones you like most? Personally aside from ぬいぐるみになりたい ("I want to become a plushie") I can't think of much (it's a pretty good song by the way).

>>16009512
One of my favorites is Uso to Nuigurumi by Dixie Flatline. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19497806

Also check out the UtataP stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTLM7d74w_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2eBHok71nA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alz67LkQCbw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNOZ-qa5N4Y

>>16008206
>>16008947
Me. I'm not on my pc right now but I'll upload it soon.

>>16009718
Thanks! I appreciate it. Checking them out.

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I want to hug Miku.

>>16009879
What if Miku doesn't want to be hugged?

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>>16009910
I will continue to admire her beauty from afar. I still want to hug her though.

>>16009910
>tfw if Miku was real she'd never let you hug her

>>16010011
but Miku loves everyone
I'm sure she'd give you a hug too

What is the difference between GUMI and Megpoid?

If it's the same then why are there two different ways to call her?

>>16010256
To be honest, I don't know for sure.
My guess would be it's from the provider's name.
Gackpoid - Kamui Gakupo(Gackt)
Megpoid - Gumi(Nakajima Megumi)

>>16010288
Oh, I didn't know his, that'd make sense.

>>16010256
Megpoid is the software name, Gumi is the character's name.

>>16008206
>>16008947
>>16009796
Done. Here you go: https://mega.nz/#!HRg1ULqA!eTu4GokHjbx2tpwlI7UEHoNMg-jA_p1rYpcgiWL-9oA

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>>16010466
Anon who initially asked.
Thanks a lot for your time!

>>16010597
I love this song. It might be my favorite Gumi song. I wish I could find more of Sunfish's albums online. I think I only got 2 or 3 from the usual places.

>>16010619
If you'd like GUMI recommendations I'd gladly link you a couple songs as a thanks for Setsuna Code.

Well whether you're that anon or not actually.

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>>16010642
Different anon, but just post whatever you want. We could use some more music on the thread.

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when does ios get miku picture?!

>>16010766
Fuck that, ios gets EVERYTHING. Let at least one thing be for Android. Stupid Japan and their iPhone obsession.

>>16010757
Well not exactly only GUMI related but in this case I recommend the "VOCALOID3 meets TRF" album. I've never seen anyone recommending it. I don't know anything about TRF but listening to it reminds me of the 90s, some songs feel a bit spooky too, so perfect with Halloween around the corner.

http://mikudb.moe/album/vocaloid3-meets-trf/

I particularly like tracks #03 (Lapis), #04 (VY1V3), #06 (Lily) and #09 GUMI).

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>>16010782
Forgot I had that album, but there's some really nice, easily overlooked tracks in this one. My favorite is 5, I'm a sucker for みきとP.

I'll throw in an album too
http://vocadb.net/Al/9151

>>16010466
Um... tracks 01 to 08 are 320k, but 09 to 19 are in 192k. Do you have an idea why? First time seeing something like this.

Looking back the one from mikudb is like that as well apparently... I might have made you rip your CD for no reason anon, sorry. Still I'm quite curious as to why it did that, as I don't doubt your ability to rip a CD properly. I'm not knowledgeable enough to make an educated guess.

I suppose a workaround would be ripping in lossless to then convert it ourselves from lossless to mp3. Implying that's not what you already did in the first place though; I'm just assuming you ripped to mp3 directly and because of how the CD is somehow made (blame Last Note) it ended up being that way.

the total length of setsuna code is over 80 minutes. is it a two disc release? perhaps compression settings were lost between discs.

>>16010982
No idea, I had that ripped from a while ago, just uploaded the file again now. I'll look into it tomorrow.

>>16010011
Yes she will.
You just have to wait in line for hours

>>16009396
>>16009484
Based on these, I'd say it's a problem with Windows 10. Also that sounds really fucking annoying, I'm sorry dude.

Can gumikutards be a thing now? Judging some of these shitposts in this thread they officially are more abnoxious than fucking Lentards.

>>16012655
Tell us about how your favorite vocaloid is, like, Mayu or some other irrelevant wholoid.

>>16012655
Please enlighten us.

Would anyone happen to have Re:nG's "The Sheltered World"? mikudb's links aren't working.

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>>16012643
To make things worse, after some more troubleshooting I found out some more peculiar things
1) this only affected folders that I had copied from another hard drive (large music collection) so I was able to paste Japanese into brand new folder names, but not the foreign ones.
2) creating a copy of the affected folder fixes the problem. Why? I don't know.
3) creating a copy of the folder also peculiarly switched the folder name back to it's foreign original. I made a copy of a folder called "??P - ?????" and it made "End of the World - Copy". The album was 世界の終わり by 蝶々P

Apparently Windows 10 can store pseudonames for folders? Is that a real feature?

>>16013116
You can buy it off Amazon MP3 for under $10.

>>16014320
It's not that I mind paying for it, but if anyone happens to have 320 kbps or FLAC, it'd be really appreciated.

>>16012655
They always were desu. The loudest Lenfags of the fandom are teenage girls, and you'd expect them to be obnoxious anyway; the shitposters here are all grown men

>>16010982
>>16011840
Fresh rip. Seems to be alright now, if not let me know: https://mega.nz/#!eQpXgagb!iT3TaivpenZIIB8MMX-1mBv6cJTX0rt7YUBszg0yxas

>>16009512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRZSibBrrg

Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit as fuck bros
https://youtu.be/uXqCg6DREYE

>PinocchioPwill be releasing his third album on November 23rd titledHUMAN.
>This album will not only feature VOCALOID but also human vocals as well!
And another one goneand , another one gone, another one bites the dust.

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Perfect. Thanks again anon!
And sorry for the trouble.

>>16014680
Nice, cheers.

>>16014922
Meant for >>16014624 by the way, oops.

>>16014761
I really can't imagine Pinocchio leaving the scene. He just must had decided to sing a little bit. He's not a great singer btw.

>>16015316
have*

>>16015316
Not really any harder to imagine than any of the other producer who got popular and left.

>>16015365
I don't know, dude. He is one of the oldest big producers still active, and he seems very attached to Miku, kinda like Mitchie M.

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>>16015395
>follow siva on twitter
>1 follower you know
>Mitchie M
Mien niegger

>>16015395
Yeah the "still active" part is kinda the kicker because most of the old gods aren't active anymore.
The only famous producer that would actually surprise me if he quit would be Lamaze, or maybe owata.

>>16012863
I like Tonio.

>>16014761
It's just him singing, he already featured himself in antenna a fair amount, I don't think he's trying to move away from vocaloid but instead just mix himself in a bit more.

That said I don't really like his singing.

What's the common outcome after producers "move on" from vocaloid? Do they go big time or do they flop? Are there ones who go back to vocaloids?

>>16015743
Usually, big producers who move on from vocaloid have successful careers. They move on because they have potential to be popular even outside the vocaloid community, after all. Ryo, wowaka, Hachi and Kemu, for example, are doing great.
Also, Ryo released two vocaloid songs after he moved on, and Hachi one, if that counts as go back to vocaloid.

>>16014751
Noice. Is there an easy way to get all future tone DLCs? Or do you just buy them one by one?

>>16015999
There's a season pass.
But Project Diva Arcade Future Tone is not Project Diva Future Tone, so don't buy the DLC expecting to play those songs this weekend...or ever, probably.

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how is whoo pronounced?

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>>16016280

>>16016280
Like wuu I think.
I haven't seen it officially written in kana anywhere.

>>16014751
>CR reporting this as PS4 DLC
Quality

>>16018656
Professionals

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This is merely a cute child. There is nothing sexual about her.

>>16019611
14 is old enough to sexual.

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So I listened to this like 20 times before knowing what it was about: https://youtu.be/Y4OSgehVkUM

Now I like it even more

>>16003702
I wouldn't dare to call bad, I found it quite good.
Although the only release that I really REALLY enjoyed was AVtechNO!'s INCOHERENT.

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I got a package from Japan today

>>16020366
I've debated getting those full graphic shirts before, let me know how they hold up in the wash.

>>16019752
All masa songs sound the same.

>>16020759
Hand wash in cold water and hang dry, they'll last forever.

>>16020778

what do i look like, a washerwoman

>>16020846
He didn't really say you had to do it, just tell your mom to wash it that way when she does the rest of your laundry.

>>16020889
His mother is dead.

>>16020962
Then how does she do his laundry?

>>16020968

very carefully

>>16020366
33 years old bearded man here, I wish I could wear cute shirts like the left one

>>16021395
What's stopping you?

>>16021413
Society?

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Luka?
Isn't that a man's name?

>>16015601
Isn't Yuyoyuppe singing now, too?

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>>16021609
A girl this cute can't possibly be a girl.

>>16022982
Why do western people even buy manga?
It's expensive, the money doesn't go to the actual author and it's useless after you read it.

>>16023079
How is a western person importing manga different?

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>>16022936
>>16021609
STOP

>>16023110
Nevermind, I forgot about importing.

>>16022982
dam i lov mai waifu

I started playing diva x today.

After collecting the 5 chaos crystals or whatever I don't want to play anymore.

Is this normal? I'm glad I chose to buy future tone over this.

>>16024397
>Pirating Migu
You don't deserve any of those

>>16024619
I'd be pissed if I spent money on diva x. Especially after seeing the trophies for it.

At least with the money I saved I can buy the other half of future tone.

>>16024638
X is fine as an installment of the PJD series. I think F 2nd was better because it had better pvs (thanks PSVR) and better songs, but X is well acceptable.
FT doesn't almost count as a PJD release, it's just like a big collector's edition release or something. No new content, just old content rereleased on a new system. Comparing X to FT is dumb. X is fine.

>>16024798
I wouldn't go that far. Isn't that like saying comparing the PSP games to the vita games is dumb?

I think there's more than enough different and similar between the two that warrants a comparison especially since they came out at the same time and cost roughly the same amount to buy. To say FT has no new content is pretty out there.

I would even go as far to argue that x isn't a good installment of the diva series because of some of the downgrades and "upgrades" involved. I may have even enjoyed playing miracle girls festival more.

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>>16024798
They were just holding back to do a big release for the 10th anniversary of Miku next year, right? Right...? Guys...?

>>16024883
I'll make it simple and short.
FT has no original content. It's all ported/remastered. If it was a new game, it would've been ¥70,000.
Would it be worth it then?

>>16024923
You know every song has a new note mapping right? Future tone plays differently than the games it's songs are "ported" from. Does new gameplay not count as new content?

How much "new content" does diva x really have? How much are rush notes worth? Do they have a net increase over those shitty connected star notes that were removed?

There's more to a game's quality than original content. For example, if you want to play dress up in FT you play a song or two, buy the module, and wear it. In diva x you play a song and clear the chance time for a 1/250 chance to get the one you want.

But hey it's got like 20 new songs so I guess it's a good game then. Oh yeah, and it's got an original story too.

>>16025014
>You know every song has a new note mapping
That's not true and even if it was, a chart set for a song would take one person maybe 2 hours depending on how hard the extreme was. It's not new gameplay, it's just copied over from the Arcade.
>How much "new content" does diva x really have?
Every song is new (except one) plus 1 original song and 6 medleys which had to be produced just for it, every song has new choreography, a new stage, and there's lots of new modules.

The one thing you can say about FT being better than X is that the Arcade gameplay is better than the portable releases. But that's the difference between arcade and portable, not FT and X. That's why it's not fair to compare those two games like that, you have to compare arcade to portable, in which case yes, arcade has significant better mechanics.
There is no portable game that could ever hope to be comparable to FT as standalone releases. X could have been completely perfect; 30 song set list with completely concrete tracks, nonPSVR friendly PVs, no drop or skill system, and it would still be disappointing compared to FT. Do you get that? Because it would still use portable mechanics, it would never be as good.
FT is an unfair behemoth of a game that has no right to exist on the PS4 but was given to us graciously as a gift and we should consider ourselves blessed it exists at all. But the only reason it exists at all is because all of the content, or like 99% of the content since some songs have new Extreme charts, is ported or remastered.

If you want to compare X to F2nd, that's valid. The set list is weaker, the PVs are weaker, and the drop and skill system is bad (I like the story mode, though, it can stay).

>>16025105
Well I meant new compared to the portable games considering it was already labelled a "a big collectors edition" previously. Sorry if you couldn't understand that.

I guess it's silly of me to judge games by their gameplay and not the amount of new content in the first place.

So in conclusion X is a fine addition to the series while being worse in almost every way. Got it.

>>16025320
You're really a special piece of shit. We could've kept the discussion civil but if you have to resort being condescending and sarcastic without actually responding to my points, I won't hesitate to call you out for being ignorant and dense.
>I guess it's silly of me to judge games by their gameplay and not the amount of new content in the first place.
Again, that's fine. Arcade has better mechanics than portable. No one is arguing this point. But like I said earlier if you could read, that is not X's fault, it's the portable series fault. FT has better gameplay than X, F 2nd, F, Extend, 2nd, and PJD. Calling out X for having bad gameplay is unfair to X because compared to the rest of the portable releases, it's exactly the same, with the addition of rush notes.
>So in conclusion X is a fine addition to the series while being worse in almost every way. Got it.
It is fine. Being not as good as F 2nd doesn't make it bad. It's better than all the other portable releases except F 2nd. It's still good. It's by no means a bad game just because the drop system is stupid. If you want to critique games by gameplay like you insist on saying you do, X nails the gameplay and most of the charts are really good, if a little easy, but the portable ones always are.

>>16025407
I don't know why you're still arguing, I said you were right. It was "dumb" of me to compare two games with similar gameplay, that came out at the same time, for the same system, and around the same price. How "dumb" of me. You win the argument. "Did you get that?"

Exactly when did we first stop being civil again?

>>16021438
>society has a law against wearing cute clothing
What third world country do you live in anon?

>>16025687
America.

>>16025678
You're right about one thing; you are dumb, you sarcastic prick.

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>>16025721
How have you not realized yet that no one really gives a shit about stuff like what shirt someone is wearing? I walk around my air force base wearing pic related and I see other people wearing anime related stuff all the time.

>>16025795
I also live on base and whether or not they say anything, you can tell it's weird when everyone else in line at the DMV is in fatigues and there I am, sticking out like a sugoku itai yubi.
I still wear them, but only on special occasions.

>>16025795
>>16025807
I thought the military had a dress code?

>>16026229
Yeah but it doesn't say like "no weeb shit". Basically, wear a shirt and pants, don't be indecent, be clean, stuff like that, basic shit. You can't wear a shirt that says "Jesus is a cunt" or "fuck Obama"

Only cute little girls can pull off Miku shirts in public. Are any of you anons little girls? Probably not.

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>>16026383
I am. On the inside.

>>16026383
Little girls can pull their shirts off in public?

>>16027182
Ha ha. Very funny.

I'm sure you know what I meant. But just in case you're ESL, only little girls can get away with wearing Miku shirts in public without getting judgement from strangers and/or immediate family members.

>>16027969
Why should I care about getting judgment?

>>16027182
Well, if they are little enough...

>>16028133
Since you seem to be in a questions type of mood:
Why should you care about my response?
Why should you care, period?

You can be as apathetic as you want but at the end of the day, you have to interact with other people to get groceries, go to the bank, job interview, go out to eat, etc.

Heck, I judge those who wear anime/character shirts and I post here. What do you think the average judgement is for a stranger who doesn't care about Anime/Manga/Miku/Japanese culture? Spoiler alert: it's terrible.

I'd rather not be frowned upon so I keep the Miku shirts at home since I'm not a cute little girl.

>>16028561
> you have to interact with other people to get groceries, go to the bank, job interview, go out to eat, etc.
But those people don't matter. Like, at all. What they think has literally zero effect on your life whatsoever. Unless you're actually dumb enough to wear a graphic tee to a job interview, regardless of what the graphic was.

What's disgraceful that you think Miku is something to be ashamed of. Really says a lot more about you than it does them.

>>16028561
I literally do not give a fuck about what bank tellers, grocery clerks, or waiters think of me. They will provide me the service as long as I have the means to pay for it. I'm lucky enough to work at a job where people do not care about what you wear either.

>>16028587
>>16028601
It's amazing how easily these threads become derailed...

>>16028817
Miku is dying there is nothing new to talk about.

>>16030751
There's new music, but no one ever posts random shit they find or new albums.

>>16031052
There's no good new music though

>>16031528
You have to go back >>>/mu/

>>16031566
/mu/ doesn't have good taste in music, they're worse there than here about prioritizing obscurity over quality, and thinking popular music is inherently bad. Yet they don't know shit until p4k or Fantano make a post about.
Basically, people who appreciate good music don't go to /mu/

https://youtu.be/gThlC2JYAOk
Thoughts?

>>16032111
I love symphonic covers, I have big expectations about this.

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>>16026383
>>16027182
Rekt

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>tfw vocaloids will race each other

>>16032728
>tfw no miku party game
>no miku kart game
>she couldn't even get into Sanic racing

>>16031528
How about music just passable enough to download off the internet for free?

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BEST

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What are the chances of Miku singing in the opening ceremony of the Olympics (not counting the unofficial poll)?

>>16032987
0%
It's not even a maybe.

As a person who doesn't follow the Vocaloid scene closely, I'm just curious, how do you guys draw the line between old, established names and relatively new producers?

I happened to come across this (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28399590) yesterday, and I wouldn't know whether that guy (hayabusa?) has been around already and for how long.

>>16033084
>how do you guys draw the line between old, established names and relatively new producers?
Old: 2007-2010
Established: 2011-2013
Relatively new: 2014-

>I happened to come across this (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28399590) yesterday, and I wouldn't know whether that guy (hayabusa?) has been around already and for how long.
Hayabusa's first upload is from december 31, 2014, se he's relatively new.

>>16033071
You mean we are not going to get a pop cover of Kimigayo sung by Migu and the Emperor dancing like a little girl? What a disappointment.

>>16032987
I would give it a 50/50.

>>16032987
Maybe as a collaboration with an actually popular band like BUMP OF CHICKEN. Miku herself doesn't have the popularity to warrant being featured in the Olympics, and the nips are trying to hide otaku culture in general.

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>>16033675
I personally hold on the hope that they try to make something completely different to everyone else before, and using a Vocaloid is, well, very different.

But deep inside I know japanese won't dare.

>>16032796
Maybe if downloading from Nico wasn't fucked since a few months ago..

>>16031528
>There's no good new music though
>>16003702

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>>16033961
>downloading from nico ever

>>16034096
Well, where do you download from?

>>16034013
That was discussed a ton when it came out. It's not new anymore.

>>16034146
I just wait for the album to come out

>>16033675
>was on letterman the ultimate sign that you made it as an artist
>international tours
she's popular enough

>>16034241
So you import everything?

>>16034272
No, if you've never heard of them, mikudb.moe and sometimes dojin.co

If I can, I'll try to purchase from bandcamp

>>16034309
>mikudb.moe
isn't that like, just pirating?

>>16034324
Yes, but I end up buying from artists I only found from pirating, so I don't feel too bad about it.

Does anyone have All Things Must Pass in FLAC?

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Post spookaloids!

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>>16035298
boo

>>16034356
I find it more acceptable to use stuff producers share themselves.

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>>16035298
>spookaloids

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Any kikuo fans here? I'm starting to love his music , especially Kikuo Miku 1-4. But i haven't listen Kikuo Miku.

>>16035634
I meant Kikuo World 1-3 album. I heard there's a compilation of remixes like VRUSH UP or something like that. Anyone knew that album before?

>>16035353
Looks gyaru to me.

>>16031615
That's why I told you to go there.

>>16034096
>>16034241
Not all songs end up on a album, and even if they do, the versions aren't always the same.

Saying something like "hurr I don't download from nico" is just incredibly casual and ignorant.

As for downloading from nico itself I don't see how it's fucked up, I've had no problem doing so recently.

>>16035298
What's song is this already, please?

Image searching the pic isn't finding anything, not even the original artist.

>>16036021
What does a lack of good vocaloid music have to do with what board I go to?

>>16036079
It literally says it right on the image. The title of the song is written on it.

>>16036079
It's Musunde Hiraite Rasetsu to Mukuro. Producer is Hachi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKffZySqQts

>>16036416
There are people who can't read moon, you know.

>>16036468
>彼は日本語読めない
笑

>>16036031
>Not all songs end up on a album, and even if they do, the versions aren't always the same.
Fucking this. It happened several times a producer made a remake that wasn't as good as the original.

>I don't see how it's fucked up
See >>16023145
>It always only reports the low-quality variant

Basically, both Nicofox and NNDD(which I used) gets a shit quality version of the videos which end up over 100MB.(or so it seems)

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>>16036713
To illustrate
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>>16036747
~75MB screenshot
The browser serves the top one, but downloaders get this version of the videos.

What's revolting is that before they started doing this, even the ~80MB videos didn't look NEARLY as bad.

>>16036765
and before someone says "who cares about the video", the sound quality suffers in a similar way.

>>16036713
I use Jdownloader2 and only download when it's night over there so I don't end up downloading in LQ (when they restrict bandwidth). This program is basically godlike, you can download anything you want with it.

Try it out and tell me how it goes for you.

>>16036922
I'm premium, it shouldn't affect me.

>>16036958
Try the program anyway.

>>16036971
This might sound dumb but how do I use it?

>>16037011
Disregard that, I figured it out.
It gave me the same low-quality file.

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>>16037011
>>16037046
So premium is a hack? I can't think of anything but this.
Screencap I just took, nnd at the moment I'm typing this is still in low quality mod.

I can assure you that if you wait until it goes away you'll be able to download things in normal quality.

>>16036468
Thanks.

>>16035634
I've been really into kikuo miku 4 this past week.

Just got open back headphones and his mixes sound really nice with a bigger soundstage.

>>16037167
That's "economy mode", premium users are unaffected by it.
The issue must be Nico changing some files and the download programs unable to access the new 100MB< ones.(and maybe get redirected)

There's a "hack" an anon mentioned in the other thread involving looking at network traffic and grabbing the link to the file, but it's a troublesome method.

If memory serves me, economy mode should end in about an hour, or that's how it was before I got prem. I'll try again later, but it's very unlikely to be the cause.
The program I used before(NNDD) warns before downloading economy mode videos, and it didn't detect them as being those.

Well you can try downloading a recent Weekly ranking video and see if it's bad quality or not.
You can use my pics from earlier for comparison.

>>16037231
I'll try again in an hour or two as well then and show you the results using JDL2. We'll see.

>>16037263
Thanks.

>>16037266
Let us decide on a video, post a link if you want.

>>16037269
okay, here's one
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29654067

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>>16037280
80mb
854x480

Mmmmmm... that sucks.

>>16037332
Even though the resolution is probably bigger than economy used to be, this audio/video compression kills it.

>>16037345
Yeah I don't get it. Same resolution as this >>16036747 but awful quality.

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>>16037351
Now try this older video
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29008088
filesize is nearly the same, but the quality is actually good.
Either I'm missing something, or what the fuck are they doing.

>>16037443
87mb
854x480

Yup, pretty weird indeed. By the way JDL2 also has an option to detect whether nico is in economy mode or not in the option.

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Forgot pic.

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>>16037476
>>16037479

Yeah, I might start using it since NNDD requires a VM for me.

I just hope someone finds out what they changed and fixes one of the downloaders so I can go back to mass-downloading songs from the rankings again...

Thanks for confirming Anon.

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>orchestral starduster
https://youtu.be/gThlC2JYAOk

>>16036713
>It happened several times a producer made a remake that wasn't as good as the original.
Like what? Just curious.

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>>16037505
You're welcome.

>>16037508
>Like what? Just curious.
Not him but it happens with pretty much most artists and most songs. Not always and necessarily a case where the album version is "not as good", but often it ends up being arranged differently, and thus sounding differently. So naturally in those cases I always like having both versions.

An example would be Heavenz's Telomere's First Cry. PV version sounds amazing, album version not so much (the one from the compilation that is - I don't know if it had then been re-released).

Also another very obvious example would be one of DECO's latest songs having GUMI for singer but Miku in the album version. So once again, saying something like "downloading from nnd is useless" is retarded. Not even counting songs that don't end up on albums or even artists who don't ever release any CDs.

>>16037508
I suppose it boils down to opinions.

I didn't like the remake of Plastic Marionette(album ver)
(or the Proof one either)
The game version(IA/VT) of Hoshizora no Lion
The album version of Sonorous (sound collection - new original)

These are all "compared to the original", the ones uploaded(first) I guess.
Sometimes the tuning, sometimes the instruments, the arrangement, but they feel "off" in some(wrong) way.

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>>16037557
>>16037585
Thanks, I'll check these out. Even if it's more of a sidegrade, hearing different arrangements are fun.

>>16037653
I mean it's not always bad, but I guess the ones that didn't work out stand out more(on a personal level of course)

For example, the "re-recording ver" of THE INVISIBLE FACT is alright(or great even), different singer, and almost sounds like a new song, or an entirely new take on the idea.
I was annoyed by people saying "how much better it is than the original", even though they're quite different.

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Ok, I guess I'll give some quick impressions of what I've heard so far.

>>16037557
>Heavenz's Telomere's First Cry
Honestly, the CD sounds better to me. The arrangement is the same so I wouldn't go out of my way to download this one. Also, It has been released on two compilation albums, Popstar the vocaloid and Gekkabijin.

>>16037585
>Plastic Marionette(album ver)
Ok, some pretty big changes here and I agree there's some things that was better in the original arrangement. I do want to note that the mastering is better in the new version, which makes sense.

>>16037715
>THE INVISIBLE FACT
Another cool example, I like that the original goes straight into a full beat where the remake is kind of a slow build. If I had to choose, I do have to go with the new version though. The tuning with Yukari just fits so well.

Another interesting remake is ichinose LUPO's 君と僕のあすの歌. Just thought I would share, even if both versions have been released on albums.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18459148
https://mega.nz/#!c19znbbC!OPR2jDSjV8IQxJIcPJPtkaxV38ud_cOwqxML-uaoa7o

>>16037878
>THE INVISIBLE FACT
I personally prefer Miku's version, she sounds kind of, I don't know, aggressive? It just goes so well with the music of the original.

>Plastic Marionette
I understand that the remake sounds more cleaner but the lack of buzzing which might have been due to not so great instruments(?) is a trade-off which changes the feel of the song and might not be actually worth it.

As for the last song, they both sound alright. Doesn't feel like an upgrade or downgrade. I suppose it also depends on how attached you are to a version...

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>>16037878
>Honestly, the CD sounds better to me.
Well, to each their own. Ultimately the point I wanted to convey is that versions differ, not necessarily in good or bad, just different, and I like to have them all. I think it's interesting that people have different opinions over this.

I re-listened to the gekkabijin version and the instruments just sound off to me. Battery is weird. During the emotional part at 3min the guitar doesn't have any punch either. Miku's singing(? don't know how to call it) at the start and end of the song also have much more emotion in the original PV version.
Now while I'm being "harsh" I still think it's an interesting version and I'm actually glad he went on changing it, better have two instead of one after all.

In case people care about what we've been talking about :
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19180162
http://mikudb.moe/album/gekkabijin/

Just listened to the "POPsTAR the VOCALOID Season2" version and... it's pretty much the same as the original PV version, but slightly better I would say after only listening to it once. So considering you said...
>The arrangement is the same so I wouldn't go out of my way to download this one.
it looks like there perhaps was a misunderstanding.
http://mikudb.moe/album/pop%e2%98%85star-vocaloid-season2/

If you're interested, I just learned about a 3rd version here (completely new arrange; a collab it seems) :
http://mikudb.moe/album/traveler/
Pretty nice.

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>>16038190
I can't really find the differences you're referring to. Maybe we need a third opinion, but the arrangement sounds exactly the same to me, only difference is I'm listening to a flac copy of the album, so it sounds marginally fuller than the PV version. Want me to upload my copy?

>http://mikudb.moe/album/traveler/
That's a really sweet arrangement and album

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>>16038258
I have it in .flac as well. I'm not sure what to tell you. The gekkabijin version is clearly different to the original PV or POPsTAR version (those two are the same). Like not just some slight differences most wouldn't notice, parts are clearly different. The "OhhOhhhhohhhh" (0:10~ to 0:25~ | 1:35~ to 1:50~ | 3:48~ to 4:15~) particularly, on top of the other stuff I typed up there.

If we can't still understand each other here we might need a third opinion indeed, though it's not exactly a big deal either anyway.

>and album
Looking forward to listen to it later.

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>>16038292
Oh that really helps, I kept listening for instrumental changes I somehow phased out backing vocals. To be honest, I was layering the tracks to see if they diverged so I guess that wouldnt really help me catch those kind of differences. As an aside, I don't think those vocals are miku, so maybe that's why they took it out?

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>>16038322
It's Miku for both. I don't think there was a reason in particular, these sorts of stuff happen. Other artists like monoca:factory or kous were doing it all the time.

Just noticed that song is now 4 years old, damn. Time really flew by.

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>>16038382
Yeah that's kind of frustrating, but clearly I'm not observant enough to notice anyways so there's that. Thanks for the recommendations!

>>16037198
I've got them all in FLAC (rip my sd card spaces) and i have to say it's amazing when i put my philipps headphones. btw, is Kikuo Live album worth to listen?

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>>16030751
>>16031528

what is effort. what is doing ya own damn research instead of wanting to be spoonfed.

Also wtf are the mods doing, it feels like they only did a cleanup effort during Mikuexpo season, now all these threads have been shit up by derailing and general "would you fug miku/miku isn't for sexual purposes" bullshit. Same with /jp/ honestly...

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>>16040532
>what is effort. what is doing ya own damn research instead of wanting to be spoonfed.
They're the same kind of people who'd tell you "no new good music were released" after 2012 or some pointless shit like that. Best to sigh and ignore, friend.

>>16040741
I mean, there's been some good music after 2012, sure. But compare 2016 to 2008-2011.

>>16040532
What relationship is there between the vocaloid scene being in decline and spoon feeding people?

>>16040455
>I've got them all in FLAC
>(rip my sd card spaces)
Please let me I'm misunderstanding this post, and you're not actually listening to flac. My sides can't take it.

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>>16041077
There's also this thing about Miku steadily losing popularity since 2013. I know, I know, the Vocaloid world is much more than Miku, but since she is 3 or 4 times more popular than the runner up Vocaloid, I think it's good for assess Vocaloid popularity as a whole.

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>>16041221

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What video/song is pic related from?

>>16041221
>>16041231
What does this data even presents?

>>16041474
Well, the second one is clearly labelled as to what it represents...

>>16041477
I don't read moon.

>>16041365
Probably
https://youtu.be/DeagaoWabTM

>>16041231
nnd =! everything that's been released

nnd as a platform for artists lost in popularity because it's a bag of shit as a website.

>>16041077
>>16041221
>>16041231
Well if there isn't anything good anymore then you're free to go, no one is keeping you here.

>>16041490
thank you based anon

>>16041518
It's really hard to follow your train of thought, man.
>"they just don't make vocaloid music as good as they used to"
>wow I'm not gonna spoon feed you, do some research
>"it's just that the whole scene is in slow decline"
>then you can just leave
It's like you're responding to someone else but keep accidentally quoting me. There's no correlation whatsoever between my posts and your responses and it's confusing the heck outta me.

>>16041549
Not them, but if those actually are your posts, they probably mean
>there's still good music, go find it yourself
and
>if you don't like any of the new songs you can just leave

I had a similar discussion before and the conclusion was "maybe it's your turn to leave the ride" and "Might as well free some room".

I know this hobby is all about "community", but like in real life, ultimately, you're on your own in the end.

>>16041616
I don't understand why someone has to get off the ride just because the ride is slowing down.

>>16041549
Why are you assuming I posted any of the stuff above?

Every thread we have shits like you posting this :
>they just don't make vocaloid music as good as they used to
Have you listened to everything that's been made ever? Do you have like 10TOs of Vocaloid music? Listened to all the artists and songs ever made? Given the sorts of things you've said and plan to respond : most likely not. Ironic isn't it?

If you can't understand what such a statement sound terribly immature to most of us then there's no point continuing this conversation, and like other anon just said, if you can't find yourself anymore here then find yourself some other hobbies.

>>16041630
It's a secret of no one that the scene as changed, yet "not as good songs as they used to" is not even slightly relevant here. Why would songs magically become """less good"" all of a sudden? Can you at least understand why it is retarded to say something like this when it comes to music? If not you might take a look at what subjectivity is, and also reflect on your ego before judging thousands of artists solely based on your personal feelings. Get some self-awareness. We don't need people like you.

>>16041638
>We don't need people like you.
Come on now anon, don't be elitist.

>>16041638
Judging from that wall of text, it looks like I struck a nerve. I'm not going to read any of it, but I'll assume you're upset, and for the sake of your blood pressure, let's just drop the conversation and enjoy the vocaloid scene for what little time it has left.

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>tfw your husbando gets a new figure

>>16041652
>>16041666
>I don't have any rebuttal so I'll play the "stuck a nerve contempt" card
Whatever helps you sleep at night, anon.

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>>16041680
Speaking of figurines, what are those things bottom right? Can I find and buy them anywhere?

I've tried to search but to no end. Only thing I can find is Gumi's Nendoroid.

>>16041684
And I gave you such an easy out, too. All you had to do was walk away.
Oh well.
There's nothing to rebut. You're not making points. It's a simple, observable fact that many of the producers that were popular have left the scene or are borderline inactive, and the producers taking their places as the new popular names aren't as good. The quality of songs today aren't as good as what they used to be because the producers aren't as talented. It's pretty simple.

>>16041684
Like I said, I had this same conversation a long time ago. Granted, I don't go around saying it in every thread, but I think it's idiotic and elitist to tell someone to quit just because they have some negative opinions.

>>16041699
I did make points. You just refuse to see them. Your posts have no substance whatsoever aside from "Vocaloid sucks now"; people try to explain to you why this is a stupid statement to make and you then call on them for being mad or out of the line.

What the hell, man. Once again, learn what subjectivity and egocentricity are - though I'm probably wasting my time typing this considering how your typing style reeks as shit.

>>16041707
Stop samefagging, if not stop being a SJW.

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>>16041693
I don't speak moon, anon. They could be prototypes for something that hasn't been made available yet. The orange reminds me of goodsmile, but I think they might be nendoroid copies. How recent is the image?

>>16041745
>発売日：2013
under the poster. So not quite recent I assume.

>>16041745
>How recent is the image?

>MEGPOID the music
Anon, I...

>>16041734
>I did make points.
Not really.
Also, look up what subjective means because you're not using it the way you think you are. If music was subjective, you wouldn't be able to say I was wrong or stupid. If music was subjective, my opinion of "the music isn't as good as it used to be" would be equally as valid as your opinion.

>>16041734
>SJW
Wow, you really showed me.

>>16041762
>If music was subjective
It is. You don't think so?

>my opinion of "the music isn't as good as it used to be" would be equally as valid as your opinion
It is indeed. You're entitled to think and feel the way you do. Now trying to pass it as a general truth or use your opinion as an argument? That's not so subjective anymore then. That's what I've been aiming at here, not your taste or anything like that.

Although if I did wanted to be a jerk I would go on and project about how people only caring about mainstreams like you seem to do are the first one to come here and post stuff like "vocaloid is dedd and suck now 2009 forever!!". I never hear the people with diverse taste from this thread complaining about these things. Makes sense to me but perhaps it does not to you.

>>16041770
Stop samefagging. I have nothing to show you.