07th expansion thread

Reposting just in case :

link to EP1-EP6 Explanation
>http://pastebin.com/EAnWKaKV
link to the Sprite Batch
>https://www.mediafire.com/?nx7jbx84zr29k
link to the Original/PS3/Steam sprite comparison images
>mega:///#!JdoyFAQB!KV5KiHjRovwZPtEMkhLGg0gMF5gAii6XC8UWCFeEvm0
link to the main wiki (beware that although the wiki is correct on a big sum of topics, it's not an omnipotent information source, so do not trust every word without comparing it to your own experiences and those of other anons)
>http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Umineko_no_Naku_Koro_ni_Wiki

link for Ougon Musou Kyoku/CROSS (In order to unlock Lambdadelta and Bern, you need to install in order OMK->OMK Patch->OMK-CROSS->CROSS Patch in the same folder. The Installer might take a bit to load, but be patient enough and it'll be just fine. This torrent includes all four parts mentioned above.)
>magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3a9a05a5223fbbe59de31644579e644050e6c044&dn=Ougon+Musou+Kyoku+%2B+Cross+Expansion+and+patch+updates&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

Alternatively, you can download the pre-installed version of CROSS from here.
>https://mega.nz/#F!U5ZWCTiT!CGakA0jIaRJHwIOgoqoEDw

Keep it to one thread or they're going to get pruned again.

>>15668360
This thread was done two minutes earlier.

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rip dlanor thread

may she forever remain the best

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>/seacats/ is kill

>>15668493
What with that theory that Ange and Erika are the same person?

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Rosa was the best Ushiromiya mother.

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>>15668510
I shipe Erika and Battler.

Post badass seacats music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CghhwavahxM

>>15668528
>badass
>no organ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPkKuKc4-2I for life.

>>15668536
Not always : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ksK1dudxDw

>mfw the Steam version of umineko doesn't have a sound test option
Why live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35dnAFiOz1k

>>15668543
What is the fucking point in getting the Steam version?

>>15668543
>sound test option
You mean the Music Box? It's there

>>15668549
Buying the game and giving Ryukishi my money.

Since I pirated the shit out of it when it came out.

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>>15668554
>paying money for seacats
It isn't THAT good of a series.

>>15668559
Watch a nigga BITE like eatin' a McWhooper down in compton

>>15668559
It kept me busy for weeks and I read all of it, so I think it deserves my brouzoufs.

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>>15668563
>>15668572
It is a mediocre series written by a hack of a writer. Why would you feel bad about not paying him any money?

>>15668577
Because I'm too lazy to pirate it again and the music causes me to experience intense nostalgia.

>>15668556
Okay, so how about that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWPBKAqJgsw

Mind you, I don't know if there are organs. I don't know much about music.

>>15668577
Are you trying to get him to justify your own love for this serie?

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>>15668583
Fair enough.

>>15668587
I ain't even trying,

>>15668593
I d-don't like it or anything, really...

>>15668617
Jesus, the faces the witches makes are horrifying.

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>>15668625
VN expressions were better

>>15668631
Ryukishi's pictures are actually tolerable because of how goofy his style was.

>>15668636
I really didn't see them as goofy. I thought they were unique and expressive. I don't think his Umineko sprites looked bad.

>>15668643
i agree.. at first they looked bad but they grow on you over time

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Did we lose a couple threads?

>>15668720
The last thread got deleted for some reason.

>>15668720
>yfw they are pads
Poor Georges is in for a surprise.

>>15668549
Better translation, lambda is dropping F bomb constantly for example.

Can someone help me solve umineko I have read it a few times but still am confused

>>15668400
I wanna cute Dlanor and pat her on the head.

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When is the graphics mod for Steam Umineko and Steam Tatarigoroshi coming out? I wanna play those updated translations but the "updated" Steam graphics are so bad.

>>15668846
Can't you still apply the PS3 sprite patch like you do with the original?
Or is the file directory formatted differently?
I never had a chance to buy it myself, so I'm not that knowledgeable about it

>>15668841
Simply put, all the episodes are written by different characters.
The first two were found in bottles, the others were written by Touhya to help Battler remember, and the last are Ange's conclusion.

Need more details?

>>15668805
No boobs and no hole.

Their weeding night will be hilarious

>>15668877
There's always the backhole. But between Jessica, Battler and Georges...

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>>15668885
Battler is always the one who wins.

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>>15668856
>the others were written by Touhya to help Battler remember
That's not completely right, they were written after he got his memories back

Yes I have a few questions .. mainly how everything was supposed to make Battler remember his promise, and also how Beatrice was being manipulated by the other two witches.
I am also having trouble linking all the episodes into one solution

>>15668899
I also have a question about episode 6.. it says Beatrice was created to serve battler..but i can't really see how based on the first 4 episodes. She also becomes the full Beatrice to save battler from a closed room. So is that already applying to battler before episode 6?

>>15668896
I thought he only regained his memory in the end, where he goes to meet Ange in the rebuilt Rokkenjima?

>>15668899
The others witches may or may not exist. It depends if you consider that the episode really happened or not.
But the basic idea is that it's like that:
>Beatrice is buttdevastated
>she makes a plan to kill everyone in Rokkenjima because fuck you
Since she succeeds, Lambdadelta aknowledge her as a witch and help her set up a game, just so that she can lure Bernkastel in a game and ogle her or something, meanwhile Bernkastel just tries to win.

>>15668906
Because "Beatrice" basically presses all of Battler's fetishes : a busty, blonde, smart woman.

>>15668805
Not in the GOLDEN LAND.

>>15668912
>Since she succeeds

She never actually got to because of Kyrie and Rudolf. Rokkenjima happened before EP1, which is a message bottle story Yasu wrote.

>>15668912
Yes but it's mentioned multiple times Beatrice is a "bird in a cage" due to both of the witches. So it's not that simple

>>15668720
Yes. Apparently generals are only allowed if you don't call them that. Also, any conversation of how those threads were deleted also gets deleted in about 5-10 minutes.

>>15668942
Time line is this:
>Confession of the golden witch
>EP7 Tea Party
>Manga Chapter "When the Seagulls Cry"
>Ep1
>Ep2, etc.

>>15668950
which is a bullshit retcon but whatever.

>>15668954
Its not a retcon. It's always been that way, the manga just spells it out in a completely explicit manner.

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Dumping my quicky translations that no one else will bother with because they aren't filthy fujoshi

>>15668957
no, Meta-Battler being post-Magic Ending Battler and not the Battler from EP1's fragment is bullshit.

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>>15668545
TENGEN TOPPA OH DESIRE

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>>15668967
Will is perfect

>>15668971
Whatever you say, stay in denial.

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>>15668977
Lion moe

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>>15668971
He's kind of both, since he doesn't remember anything

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>>15668805

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>>15668984
already posted this a few days ago

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>>15668999
not mine but a goody

>>15668990
no, it's either one or the other. if he was just an amnesiac, he shouldn't have a straight track of memories, and since he never went hmm for some reason I have no memories of what I did yesterday or any hints at all of him NOT being from EP1's fragment him having some vaguely defined amnesia is a complete asspull and a retcon.

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>>15668971
Okay then.

>>15668942
She suceeds, since she ascend to witchhood. Her closed box of Rokkenjima worked.

>>15669015
glad we have that straightened out.

what is the true form of beatrice that she wants battler to find?

>>15669022
Yasu.

>>15669012
There doesn't need to be hints, its not a mystery part of the series. There wasn't any hints about Tohya until Episode 8.

>>15669021
Glad to see you're a retard that can't understand the explicit way the manga is written.

>>15669022
the true form of her crotch

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Anyone else love this as much as me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj_S_FPsDes

>>15669033
Literally all I understand are "chinchin", who means penis, and "Otou-sama", who means father.
I take it Battler asks which one has the dick, and Beatrice is horrified.

>>15669033
Maybe if I could read moonrunes.

What's your favorite Higurashi Op and why is it this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJgr8D6SVu4

>>15669024
Because despite what anti-fantasyfags say, knowing that Tohya exists really doesn't change anything about the game other than the parts relevant to Ange, which were built up to prior.

And not having any hints or foreshadowing is proof of either terrible writing or a retcon. It doesn't need to be part of a mystery to be a complete asspull.

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>>15669060
Well since rokkenjima prime takes place before the games its kind of fucking obvious Meta-Battler is prime Battler. You don't need any foreshadowing to figure out something so obvious.

>>15669029
glad to see you don't know what a retcon is.

>>15669068
EP1 isn't a game because you sort of need more than one player for that.

>>15669044
>>15669047
I'll just translate Battler since he's the comedy. Zepar and Furfur mostly are just deflecting and trying to remain cool but eventually Furfur breaks down.

>More importantly which one of you has a peepee?

>Furfur (furu furu) as in your peepee goes *wiggle wiggle* (furu furu)?

>DYU YUU HABU PEE PEE?

>Something about grabbing both their crouches at once to feel which one has what (GOOD)

>WHICH ONE PEE PEE?

>>15669069
Its always been that way. Its not a recton.
Prime takes place before the games.
The manga just spells it out in a more obvious way.
I'm just going to stop responding now unless you say something exceptionally retarded, because its obvious nothing I say will sway your denial in the slightest.

>>15669078
So "chinchin" is a childish term for a wang?

>>15669075
Its always referred to as a game. Your headcanon doesn't change that fact.

>>15669084
It's not denial. Just because prime took place first doesn't mean Meta-Battler is Prime Battler.

>>15669091
yeah, its pretty a juvenile term

>>15669093
Yes, it's a 'gameboard', but not in the same way that EP2-6 are because there's only one Battler.

>>15669044
>>15669047
>>15669058
"Well then, those who wish to receive the blessing, the miracle of love may come forth!"
"Rather than that, which one of you two is the one with a penis?"
"F-Father?"
"Uhuhu, oops, straight into the chase, huh?"
"I got kinda taken aback without noticing, right Zepar?"
"Which of the two of you is the one with a penis?"
"Father!"
"Is there one (a penis, self implied), is there not one? Such things are trivial."
"Zepar and Furfur, there's no reason to bother with gender on cute things like us!"
"Does the name Furfur (pun written as furu furu which roughly translates to a dangling SFX a penis makes) imply the furu furu a penis makes?"
"Father!!"
"Hahahah! You sure are in high spirits (/hot blooded), aren't you Battler?!"
"Regarding who's what is something we'll leave up to your imagination!"
"Ｄｏ　ｙｏｕ　ｈａｖｅ　ｃｈｉｎｃｈｉｎ？"
"Please help me Zepar!"
"Furfur!"
"But it's a simple thing. Just show me"
"Show what?!"
"Father?!"
"Battler, we'd like you to avoid profound questions."
"Y-Yes, using sexual harassment against a demon makes you a bad person!"
"Love and sexual identification are two different things. Us two are demons of love!"
"We're not in a position to satisfy your sexual curiosity. I'd love if you'd come to understand that!"
"You may allow me to go 'crack' and put my hands right below those bulging areas between your thighs"
*Aaah! Ｇｏｏｄ"
"Sexual harassment!"
"Furfur!"
"I can't do this anymore.."
"I'm going home.."
"You're not acting like yourself-!"
"To which of the two of you is there a-"
"Please stop already!"

This was a translation of a gag that ended up being not that funny once you actually bother with it sponsored by everyone's loved No.1 erikafag

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>>15669004

This Dlanor face always makes me lose.

>>15669151
Dunno, I like Beatrice in this.

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>>15669151
>everyone's loved No.1 erikafag

You sound like cancer and should feel bad.

>>15669159
same, Will's shame is great too.

>>15669166
Whatever helps you sleep at night, man

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I hate Bernkastel.
But Rika is cute and deserves a good ending.

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Explain pls

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>>15669238

>>15669250
More indepth than that, anon

Is it explained anywhere why there's a huge age difference between Rika at the end of Higurashi and Bern at the beginning of Umineko? I mean, when Rika separates from Bern, she'd be 100 years old at that point, but she then claims to be 1000+ years old in Umineko. What was she doing for those 900+ years?

I screwed up by playing Umineko before Higurashi, so I don't remember if there was an explanation for this or not.

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>>15669308
They're not the same characters. Umineko's Bernkastel and Higurashi's Bernkastel are different characters that just happen to look the same.

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Post your favorite pages of the manga

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>>15669368
What the fuck.

Can we just post cute stuff?

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>>15669342
But what about this then? Did that just coincidentally happen to her as well?

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I always feel so bad whenever Kumasawa, Gohda and Nanjo die.

Definitely the underdog characters in Umineko.

>>15669386
>manga
Nice try but I'm referring to the canon VN. The retcon manga doesn't count.

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>>15669398
>Feeling bad for Kumasawa and Nanjo
Only Godha and Jessica were decent human beings
Krauss too but he was kind of a bully when he was young

>>15669402
And here comes the big one

>>15669398
They all tried to fix Kinzo's obsession and help, and got killed for that.

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>>15669368
Holy shit I want to fug that Battler

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>>15669414
Erika, try to control your desires.

I wish they used Dread of the Grave more often. I really like it, but I can't remember any time they used it.

Except at the end of the first Tea Party when Battler challenges Beatrice.

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>>15669402
That scene is in the VN as well

>>15669382
>those cunty witch faces

Im laffin. R07 sure has a way with emotional expression

>>15669386
Do we have much of a theory on Lambda's backstory? We know she existed before Higu. Perhaps her origins are in a yet to be revealed work?

>>15669441
But you are wrong
The song that plays during Ep 1 TP is Prision Strip
Dread of the grave plays when Battler finds out a master Key in Jessica's corpse and in other battles of wits aganist Beato

jp help me reach the level of game master.. with your help i can do it

>>15669582
Step 1 : create yourself an imaginary friend.
Step 2 : create 10 more.
Step 3 : commit mass murder.
Step 4 : ?????
Step 5 : you are now a witch.

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>>15669589
>choosing Endless difficulty

Easier ways to be a witch. Just find out what magic works best for you and be acknowledged

>>15669402
Hey, calling out the manga for retcons is my thing. And that's not a retcon, dumbass.

>>15669308
Witch age is metaphorical. For instance, depending on who you ask, Beatrice is either 19 years old, 6 years old, or 1 year old (I think the letter incident was one year ago?) but she's regarded as a thousand year old witch.

Although, Bern HAS gone an indeterminate amount of time fucking around in different fragments after she stopped serving Featherine, and an equally indeterminate amount of time doing that after she realized she wasn't the 'right' Rika and became a witch.

>>15669600
Nah, don't need that last part. What we know for certain is this:

1. Endure an unimaginable amount of suffering
2. ?????
3. Do something impressive
4. ?????
5. Witch

or you could just be worst girl impress your master enough to get her to pretend you're a witch.

>>15669655
You have be acknowledged, its the only real requirement. It takes at least two to make a universe and furniture doesn't count.

>>15669664
Lambda's story never mentioned her being acknowledged. Battler was already using golden witch magic before 34 declared that he was a witch. Lambdadelta's 'acknowledgment' of Beatrice was that she was ALREADY a witch.

Also, a witch and a universe are two different things.

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>>15669699
You should go back and re-read things regarding being a witch/god and the allegory for a universe. In normal circumstances you must have acknowledgment from a being higher than you. Battler was not a witch until he fulfilled the requirement set up by "the rules" and acknowledged by Lambda and Featherine.

Also in Higurashi Takano for the same reason needed the acknowledgement of society at large in order to become a God which is just a higher form of a witch. Even though she had the equivalent of Red Truth on her side it didn't matter if no one believed her father's thesis. Similar to how Virgilias gift of "Natsuhi is not the culprit" was useless to Battler before being acknowledged by the rules of the game and being allowed to use golden truth in his own right as a witch.

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>RUDOLF/KYRIE CULPRIT THEORY hurr durr
>muh ep 7 tea party
>muh ep 8 Bern Puzzle

>there isn't literally a single piece of evidence but if y-you don't b-believe it you are a retard

When will this autism end already?

>>15669398
Gohda is actually fucking popular.

Kumasawa is en entirely useless character so she deserves the unpopularity.

Nanjo and Genji are underrated as fuck, though.

>>15669742
>Takano for the same reason needed the acknowledgement of society at large in order to become a God which is just a higher form of a witch.

NO.

The 'gods' Lambda referse to in Lambda's Diary refers to are creator witches. Like Featherine. Which Takano did not even come CLOSE to being. Takano wanted to become God in the more traditional sense.

>>15669405
Actually, most of them were decent in my opinion.

The really shitty ones were: Rudolf, Eva, Kinzo, Yasu.

>>15669752
Hey, I don't like it any more than you do but it's pretty hard to deny it when R07 went LOOK LOOK THIS IS THE ONLY ANSWER THIS MANGA IS TOTALLY CANON.

>>15669788
Man you are so off base and clueless for someone that clearly seems to be very into WTC. Takano wanted to be God in the very figurative sense of the word by spearheading the Truth of Hinamizawa syndrome in the name of her father.

She is linchpin for the whole Higurashi story and its her force of will that earns her the same protection that any "witch" gets from Lambda and achieved the same result in ever shard except the one "miracle" where she was defeated. If she had won against Rika in the end she would have achieved her result and moved up from witch to God of the "Great Hinamizawa Disaster" as a permanent fixture of that universe, writing the narrative as she saw fit.

>>15669792
I can't take the manga seriously when it is so obvious that the only reason it was made this way is because of all the shit R07 got from fans for ep8.

It just screams "Hey guys sorry for that shitty ep8, here is everything you have ever wanted to see, I made it just for you guys so please don't be assblasted anymore, okay? Keep on buying 07th Expansion stuff!!"

>>15669811
I didn't really get that impression. To me it just seems like he wanted to reveal everything in the end, since the manga is more or less the ending of Umineko as a whole

>>15669804
Nothing I said contradicts any of that, except for the fact that you say she's a witch and what you said would happen if Lambda had won, both of which seems to me like nothing but conjecture.

>>15669842
>he wanted to reveal everything in the end
Nah, I am almost certain that he only did it because of the pressure. Why not reveal everything in ep 8 game too then? Because fans weren't content. R07 said that the heavy criticism almost made him quit writing entirely. Obviously he expected different/better results.

I get that he pretty much ended the franchise with the manga and thus it can be seen as him wanting to reveal everything before closing the curtain....but I am not buying it. Honestly, I don't the manga would be different the VN it weren't for shit he got for ep8.

Well, e8 sucks anyway in my opinion - regardless of whether it is the manga or VN. He should have just ended the whole thing after ep7.

>>15669842
He's said from the beginning that he WOULDN'T outright say the answer, though.

>>15669873
I don't see the point or threat of Takano winning or Lambda's protection if you don't interpret it as her fulfilling her wish of becoming a God through her force of will.

I really have a hard time talking to you autistic types that refuse to understand clear implications and parallels because they are not spelled out in a literal sense for you (and even then).

>>15669874
>He should have just ended the whole thing after ep7.
But then it wouldn't really have an ending though. Say what you will about EP8, but at least it's climatic.

>>15669879
But he did that even before Episode 8's manga existed. There are lots of interviews where he comfirms that Yasu is the culprit and all that

>>15669886
>I don't see the point or threat of Takano winning or Lambda's protection if you don't interpret it as her fulfilling her wish of becoming a God through her force of will.
The difference is your interpretation of becoming a god is far more literal than mine.

>clear implications and parallels
The clear implication that being on the winning team would give her UNLIMITED POWER?

>>15669887
It had a FAR BETTER ending than ep8. Twilight was fucking fan-fiction tier. Literally pointless waste of time. I got the impression that he didn't really know what to do for the last episode since everything that was necessary was said in ep7 already.

>>15669898
You do understand everything in WTC that is supernatural is allegorical right? I mean, I think you LITERALLY think witches and creator gods are magic and that the same rules don't apply to Takano because she's speaking figuratively. Takano becomes a god by dictating the Truth of Hinamizawa Syndrome and the pursuant Disaster. This puts her on the level of "God" i.e. someone who dictates reality. Its as simple as that.

>>15669909
No it didn't at all.
Ep8 is the perfect conclusion and its obvious thats what it was leading up to.
There were so many loose ends at that point.

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Seriously, what the hell, Battler?

>>15669909
7 was shit until the tea party though, just an info-dump without an actual plot.

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Explain the mystery.

>>15670218
Holy shit, rosatricefags STILL exist?

>>15670212
I agree with him, someone explain

>>15669909
Even if you hated it, Episode 8 was necessary to tie up Ange's story. I'm not sure how you could think that the ending to episode 7 was a satisfying end to Umineko as a whole.

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>>15670212
it's a murder mystery novel where the murders are not the mystery

>>15669919
>You do understand everything in WTC that is supernatural is allegorical right? I mean, I think you LITERALLY think witches and creator gods are magic
They are. Bern and 34, for one, don't make sense if they aren't.

I do admit that I misinterpreted your statement that she would be 'a permanent fixture of that universe, writing the narrative as she saw fit' as her becoming a being similar to Featherine, though.

>>15669752
>Manga confirms it in multiple ways
>Bern continues to taunt Clair's corpse about it even after Ange is chewed up
>Hurr durr manga isn't canon R07 is trying to trick you hurr durr

When will this autism end already?

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Let's talk about Erika!

>>15670343
Let's not!

>>15670347
Okay!

>>15670343
I want to bully her!

>>15670343
Her boyfriend was a scumbag

>>15670449
Just like he "lacked loved" to hide all the evidence of him cheating.

Just like he called his loved one annoying and dumped her?

You can fake being in love but there's just so much evidence against him that any rational person would be able to tell that he was cheating on her.

There's only so many coincidences you can encounter before having to conclude that the unknown perfume, the unexplained disappearances and the weird glances he's giving to that other girl all lead to one thing.

You don't even need to be a detective to uncover the truth behind that.

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Fuck this shit post moar Dlanor

How do I replace wa_022.ogg and wa_023.ogg in the Steam version of Higurashi with the ones on the old MangaGamer version? I tried to do it but those effects played at double speed after I replaced them.

They're the creepy piano chord ( https://youtu.be/fxjS0vbygUY )and the other unsettling sound ( https://youtu.be/iVay367HM3Y )

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>>15670513
Okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4xsax5gQQo

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>>15670506
Imagine yourself in FErika's shoes. You're a super detective that can notice minor details with ease. One day you notice something off with your loved one, and the next day and the day after. So you decide to investigate and you come up with all this evidence that points to him cheating on you.

What are you to do at that point?
Keep trusting him, even though the evidence doesn't add up? Yes you could keep trusting him and become a victim of manipulation or perhaps he's telling the truth and you just misunderstood the evidence.

Bottom line is, do you trust your self more than you do someone else, and for me the answer is quite obvious

>>15670607
>>15670628
You and me are falling out. You can sleep on the couch tonight

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>>15670513
Sure.

>>15669752
Never.

Why did Eva never told Ange the truth?

>>15671219
If Ange doesn't deserve the truth, then what does Berkastel deserves?

>>15671282
That works too I guess.

>>15671282
>Dlanor
>a detective who hates magic and burn her own father at the pyre
>sides with Buttkastel

>>15671392
I wasn't aware my ass was that great.

>>15671436
No shit Captain Obvious. Remember too that blood vessels are full of blood, or that chocolate is 30% cocoa and 70% sugar.

>>15671282
Why is her left arm like that? Is it a robot arm? Or a glove?

>>15671459
Just a glove.
She uses her armored arm to run into things while slashing them with her unarmored arm.

Think of it as a shield.

>>15671459
It's a chess piece showing her strategical superiority

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>>15670321
>Manga
>literally written to please stupid goats
>taking it seriously
And this is why I don't like Umineko. Because of its stupid fans.

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>>15671851

>>15669943
>ep 8 is the perfect conclusion
It is a fucking disgrace.
>There were so many loose ends at that point.
Like what?

>>15670149
>o-okay I should a write a last chapter
>h-hmm what should it be about?! Idk
>okay let's have everyone in the cast fight against goats
And you call it an actual plot?

7 was one of the best episodes because it actually focused on the mystery instead of fucking around. If anything, the plot wasn't a single bit more retarded than ep8 which consisted of 80% fucking around.

>>15670251
Episode 7 ending with Battler taking Ange to Rokkenjima and showing her "the truth" could have been an ideal ending. I don't it would need more explaining.

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>>15671866
>if I can't argue back then it must be bait
Fucking newfags I swear.

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>>15671880

>>15671880
There's more to the story than just the mystery. An entire episode dedicated solely to explaining shit may be important, but it's boring as hell. Episode 7 has the least replay value of all the episodes because once you know the truth, there's very little else the story has to offer.

And I don't understand what you dislike about Episode 8. Just saying "it's shit" gives me very little to work with.

>o-okay I should a write a last chapter
>h-hmm what should it be about?! Idk
>okay let's have everyone in the cast fight against goats

This doesn't actually tell me anything about what you disliked about it. you can make any development in any story sound bad by phrasing it like that. For example,

>o-okay I need to a write the explanation
>h-hmm how should I present it?! Idk
>okay let's have some new detective solve it for them.

>>15671992
>o-okay, I hate the episode 8
>h-hmm I need to give a reason, do I?
>okay let's just say it's shit

It really works.

>>15671992
>>15672051
I think it is obvious what is so about ep8. It is a mess. It doesn't add anything necessary to the story. It feels like a OVA made after an anime series is over. It is a little bonus but it doesn't feel like it belongs to the series. Probably good for those who want to see their favorite characters shine one last time.

>There's more to the story than just the mystery
Absolute cancer.
>An entire episode dedicated solely to explaining shit may be important, but it's boring as hell.
Yeah, I bet you missed those epic faggot fantasy scenes, right? Fucking plebs. If there isn't an epic fight scene in it then it is boring! Yeah right.
>Episode 7 has the least replay value of all the episodes because once you know the truth, there's very little else the story has to offer.
Again, I am sorry you can't appreciate a good story and would rather watch those gay ass magic scenes.



>o-okay I need to a write the explanation
>h-hmm how should I present it?! Idk
>okay let's have some new detective solve it for them.
It was the most rational way to do it, after all, Battler already solved everything by the time of ep7 so it was necessary to get a new detective.

>>15672621
Episode 8 was mandatory to show what happens in the real world and recap Yasu's sad life.

>>15672806
>I don't have a penis
>abloo bloo

>>15673214
Holy shit you have to be the most obnoxious person I've ever met on 4chan. And that's saying A LOT.
Throw yourself off a cliff and chop your own dick off.

>>15673472
Kinzo, please. You already done enough.

The more I read umineko, the moreI want to write my own mystery novel.

But if I know how to make a murder, I don't know how to keep the novel running for so long. I don't know how Ryukishi managed to make 8 episodes with "the maid was actually the culprit".

>>15673504
>I don't know how Ryukishi managed to make 8 episodes with "the maid was actually the culprit".

I get the feeling you're trying to make people argue again.

>>15672806
> to show what happens in the real world
Not mandatory.

>and recap Yasu's sad life
It was shown in fucking detail in Requiem. No need to recap it. Absolutely not mandatory.

The whole episode was just cash-grabbing,

>>15673504
Don't focus solely on the mystery. Make something atmospheric and develop your characters before destroying them.

>>15673504
Mystery doesn't necessarily have murder in it.

>>15673525
>it was the maid who in fact was the butler all along
>nobody ever noticed
>pointing out how ridiculous the whole thing is will get you labeled as a troll
Never change, seacat fans.

>>15673547
Sincere question, but why develop characters that will die?
I can see why you do it in Umineko and Higurashi since it repeats, (through my image of Krauss shattered in that one episode), but in normal mystery?

>>15673562
Not to mention the good old "the family doctor knew about Kinzo's secret child it all along".
Everyone focuses on the Ushiromiya and forget that the servants and the good doktor Nanjo knew everything.

>>15673572
Because it makes you care for them and actually crafts a world around what's going on. If you just introduce characters with a bland background mentioned in passing, you don't care for them. Just because you know they won't make it doesn't excuse poor development. Even mysteries need a well rounded universe to them, else it's only interesting for the puzzle. Developing a character deeply gives more insight into their motivations, and can make for very tragic and atmospheric outcomes.

>>15673572
To make you empatize with them and bring in you in the story as the puzzle solver.

>>15673572
>through my image of Krauss shattered in that one episode
???

>Sincere question, but why develop characters that will die?
You don't need to develop, I think it is enough if you just make them interesting and enjoyable.

>Not to mention the good old "the family doctor knew about Kinzo's secret child it all along".
Everyone focuses on the Ushiromiya and forget that the servants and the good doktor Nanjo knew everything.

The funniest thing is R07 somehow thinks that a transgender maid disguising himself as the butler being a culprit is something special and praise-worthy.

>>15673637
>???
He's always described as the firstborn, and when Kinzo is revealed dead, it's shown he's actually a beta cuck that let Nasuhi take care of everything

And Kanon isn't the butler, he's a servant.

>>15673647
Your image is supposed to be changed. The point is that he's not what he appears to be to his family. That's character development that contributes to the hopelessness of the family that eventually led to the gold room massacre.

>>15673637
>The funniest thing is R07 somehow thinks that a transgender maid disguising himself as the butler being a culprit is something special and praise-worthy
I'd say that in the VN community that deserves a bit of praise, especially if you plan on keeping the subject relatively serious, because a culprit like that is bound to illicit a lot of comedy if handled improperly

>>15670543
Where's the full image? The searches give nothing.

>>15673647
>it's shown he's actually a beta cuck that let Nasuhi take care of everything

Actually, that is why I like Krauss better than the rest of the siblings. He isn't a complete scumbag, he just pretends to be one because he have to or otherwise his siblings wouldn't take him seriously.

>And Kanon isn't the butler, he's a servant.
You know what I mean...

>>15673675
In the VN-genre Umineko as a whole deserves praise, I think. Still, R07 aimed too high when he made it and fell flat in the very end.

>>15673637
>transgender
Yasu isn't transgendered. She's not under the delusion that she's a boy, she's even more batshit insane than that.

>>15673747
You got it wrong. She IS a boy, but raised as a girl.
Like Gwyndolin from Dark Souls, with less snakes.

>>15673562
It really isn't that ridiculous at all.
Why the fuck would you even suspect that two different people you've met are the same person?

>>15673768
>You got it wrong, She IS a boy, but raised as a girl
[citation needed]
Yasu's gender is ambiguous. Its for the reader to decide.
Personally, I find that all of the narrative and dialogue points to her being a girl.

>>15673774
You don't have to suspect, you would notice it instantly. Unless Yasu can change his voice when he changes persona and can disguise himself as well as a special agent, the whole thing is bound to fail.

>>15673784
No, you really wouldn't.
Not everyone is as insightful as you, oh mister genius.

>>15673784
Like I said, nobody is even going to think that two people are the same person unless they can read fucking minds or are omniscient.

>>15673793
>No, you really wouldn't.
Can you even comprehend how hard it is to actually disguise yourself? It isn't as simple as putting on different clothes and a hat. Grow up already.

>Not everyone is as insightful as you, oh mister genius.
It isn't about being insightful, probably even a faggot like you could realize when someone is disguising himself as someone other. Disguising yourself takes skills and a long practice.

>>15673820
And like I said there is no need to even think. If one of your friends came to your house in woman's clothes I bet you wouldn't realize that either, right? Fuck off.

>>15673781
>Yasu's gender is ambiguous. Its for the reader to decide.

A body that can't make love implies more than just damage of the female genitalia. I really don't understand why people still think Yasu is a girl. Why the gender confusion then? What about damage to the feminine genitalia would cause confusion about gender represented by Zepar/Furfur Kanon/Shannon? In contrast, the neutering of male sexual potency, the resulting hormonal effects, and the physical change from an external penis to something that more closely resembles female genitalia makes much more sense. Add on to that being raised as a girl and you have the basis for Yasu's insanity. Thinking Yasu's a girl just lightly paints over all the tragedy to make it more easier to digest.

>>15673784
Boys and girl actually sound similar. It's during puberty that a male's voice become low-pitched.

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>>15673875
And I wish I could spend a hot passionate night with George-sama in my bed.

>>15673898
Yes, they sound similar but you would realize if the same person talks to you in different clothes.

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>>15673905
George didn't deserve it to be dead.

>>15673831
>Can you even comprehend how hard it is to actually disguise yourself? It isn't as simple as putting on different clothes and a hat. Grow up already.
I have to agree with this guy. If you pay attention, you can differentiate between people close to you and tell who's who. It's actually quite amazing

>>15673918
Agreed. Most fans hate him but I found him really cool and sexy.

>>15673930
> between people close to you and tell who's who just by looking at their eyes

Sorry

>>15673831
>>15673849
>>15673915
Such a thing wouldn't even cross your fucking mind though. There are two different people you meet and then suddenly you're like "OH WAIT YOU'RE THE SAME PEOPLE I MAGICALLY SAW THROUGH YOUR DISGUISE!!!", that's what's hard to swallow.

>>15673849
That's a completely different thing.
Yasu had the proper set up that would make it difficult to discern Kanon as Shannon. What's ridiculous is you expecting someone to suddenly reach such an absurd conclusion and think they're the same person.

>>15673960
No, it isn't different. To pretend there is both Shannon and Kanon the person Yasu is deceiving already had to meet one of them first. Example: If you meet Kanon first and then you meet Shannon you would immediately realize the trick. Unless, Yasu went through some special training for spies, I am not believing this shit.

>>15673948
Good point ignoring everything I said.
It is not the kind of thing you do consciously, it is a sub-conscious thing. When you meet someone who you have seen before but in different clothes you would notice it almost instantly. Unless you are mentally handicapped, that is.

>>15674010
>Unless you are mentally handicapped, that is
THIS JUST IN
THE ENTIRE USHIROMIYA FAMILY CONFIRMED TO BE MENTALLY CHALLENGED

>>15674018
More like "nobody give the servants more than a passing glance".
Maybe Gohda could've figured it out, but not the others.

>>15674010
Cosmetics can do magic at some degree and the height can also change with the type of shoe Yasu used as Kanon/Shannon. The breast is also a factor here.

>>15674025
If they are this retarded by this logic even a complete stranger could walk freely in the mansion as long as they dressed like a servant. Fucking absurd.

>>15674033
It's not about being retarded, it's about not talking with the servants.
Stop being so self-centered, you goddamn egotistical retard.

>>15674033
That wouldn't happen though, since Genji was in charge of the servants. He probably would have noticed

>>15674054
The biggest hole in your theory would be Jessica

>>15674032
>Cosmetics can do magic at some degree
Yes, some degree.

>the height can also change with the type of shoe Yasu used as Kanon/Shannon
I don't think it was the case though. Shannon working in high heels? Nah.

>The breast is also a factor here.
OK.

So cosmetics and breast? That alone isn't enough. An amateur person couldn't do this shit, there is no way.

>>15673784
>>15673849

>You don't have to suspect, you would notice it instantly.

Not really. I once stood on a rooftop by a public park for an hour or so to see if anybody would notice. I was clearly visible, I just didn't move or draw attention to myself. Several people walked right bellow me, but not a single person happened to glance up as they went by.

>>15674061
She barely talks with Shannon and is mostly about Kanon.

>>15674054
>Stop being so self-centered, you goddamn egotistical retard.
And you stop playing dumb right now. You can't believe this bullshit either. Just try to introduce yourself to some people and then after half an hour go and ask them if need some, while wearing fake fake breasts and women's clothes and let's see if you can fool them. Fucking retard.

>>15674054
>>15674061 is right. Jessica shits all over that theory.

>>15674083
Really?

>>15674075
What does that have to do with disguising yourself as someone else?

>>15674083
>She barely talks with Shannon
All right, now I know you are full of shit. Shannon and Jessica have always been best friends, if you paid attention to story you would remember.

>>15674101
My bad. It is the truth and it is fucking stupid.

>>15674100
>it's just fiction guys :^)
If we weren't talking about a mystery then I would accept it. If it was a comedy or something, I would accept it. But when the story takes itself seriously and tries to present this truth as something that is logical I call it bullshit.

>>15674089
>"I know better than anyone what they think!!!!!"

>>15674075
Sometimes people don't notice what they don't look for, even if it's plain as day.

>>15674064
Yeah, but Yasu's NOT an amateur. Even before "Kanon" was created Yasu had been altering their appearance and behavior on a daily basis for years.

>>15674129
*sigh* I don't know what is wrong with you but I'll explain one last time. YOU. DON'T. HAVE.TO.THINK....to reach the conclusion that someone you have met earlier is disguising himself as someone else. It is something that you have no control over, it is automatic.

Now I want you to actually argue instead of just using the meme arrow one liners.

>>15674151
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I'd a narrator

>>15674143
Yes, I know he is just a mediocre writer but I can't stand when some people just eat bullshit because they are lazy to think.

>>15674151
Yasu is amateur. He self-taught himself so that means he is an amateur. He didn't receive any special training or anything like that, he didn't learn how to act or how to disguise himself like a pro.

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>>15673875

You can always start anon.

>>15674184
>I can't stand when some people just eat bullshit because they are lazy to think.

I'm not going to discard the entirety of a story that was fun and atmospheric because one element is a bit farfetched. Nothing to do with being "too lazy to think" unless you're one of the idiots who thinks there's a *real* story hidden away that Ryukishi is obscuring.

>>15674154
>*sigh*
Back to gaia-online you go.

>>15674200
>little flaw
I wouldn't mind it if it was some little flaw, I wouldn't care. But this is a pretty big fuck up, in my opinion.

>Hey, take that back
Though it is true. His only good works were Higurashi and Umineko ep1.

>>15674214
>unless you're one of the idiots who thinks there's a *real* story hidden away that Ryukishi is obscuring.
I feel like Battler in ep1 tea party.
Why did everyone stop thinking?

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>be autistlord
>have tulpa
>tried to summon satan
>knows hebrew
Why haven't I become a witch yet?

>>15674235
That girl looks familiar.

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>>15674244
Ever read Medaka Box?

>>15674255
Welp. Turns out I don't knew her, in fact.

Is it possible to do netplay in Ougon Musou with someone who only has the base game if you have CROSS? I doubt it but was just wondering.

>>15674310
no

I have a question regarding episode 6. How did Battler revive Beato the player? I know its technically impossible for Beatrice to die fully, but the player can die. I am kind of confused as to how he revived her to begin with

>>15674373
He created a new Beato.

>>15672621
I never even mentioned the magic fights, so I would appreciate it if you'd stop trying to make me sound like some shonen fanboy who only cares about flashy fight scenes.

That being said, I think the fights are alright, or at least they're not as horrible as you're making them out to be. I don't understand why you're so hostile when it comes to them.

When I said that the're was more to Umineko than the mystery, I was referring to other aspects of the story such as character development, tragedy, narrative, etc.

One of the best things about Umineko is it's characters. Their personalities, backgrounds, and motivations are all very well developed over the course of the story. Even those without much screen time like Gohda and Hideyoshi still have plenty of characterization compared to the minor characters in other stories.

There's also the whole matter with regards to the story's romantic elements, although I'm gonna take a guess and say that you disliked that part as well, right? If I'm wrong then I apologize. But from what I've seen, those who dislike Episode 8 also tend to dislike Episode 6, and claim that the focus on love detracts from the story.

Without all those other elements coming into play, Umineko would be little more than a logic puzzle. Intellectually stimulating to be sure, but not something that I would have enjoyed as much as I do now.

What it all come down to is appreciating the story's emotional appeal in addition to it's intellectual appeal.

>It was the most rational way to do it, after all, Battler already solved everything by the time of ep7 so it was necessary to get a new detective.
I understand the need for another detective, but Will just felt underwhelming to me, especially since the concept of switching detectives wasn't as fresh anymore after they'd just gotten finished doing that exact same premise with Erika, who stood out much more by comparison. And it's not just Erika. A lot of entertaining characters were absent in Requiem; Battler, Beatrice, Lambdadelta, and even Ange up until the tea party. In order to make up for all those major absences, I feel like it would have been better to try to develop some of the characters that were already available rather than making a new one. For instance, they could have tried having Dlanor act as detective, maybe give her some more development before having her fight alongside Battler's in Episode 8.

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>>15674089
It is very likely Jessica could have known there was something going on between Shannon and Kanon, that doesn't disprove the theory, it just shows that Jessica never wanted to call Kanon out on it.

>>15674231
I'm still here. I've just been busy with all the other nude edits.

>>15674379
I thought it was the same Beato?

>>15674533
No, she's just acting same. The original Beato left for good at the end of Ep 5.

>>15674560
It said inside the episode it was the same soul as beatrice just without memories

>>15674508
>That being said, I think the fights are alright, or at least they're not as horrible as you're making them out to be. I don't understand why you're so hostile when it comes to them.
The series heavily bitch-slapped me with ep2 onwards. I am one of those guys who liked ep1 the most so I wanted to kill R07 when I saw he shitted up the the whole thing with fantasy elements.

>When I said that the're was more to Umineko than the mystery, I was referring to other aspects of the story such as character development, tragedy, narrative, etc.
Certainly, you have a point.

>One of the best things about Umineko is it's characters. Their personalities, backgrounds, and motivations are all very well developed over the course of the story. Even those without much screen time like Gohda and Hideyoshi still have plenty of characterization compared to the minor characters in other stories.
Now, now let's not go overboard - there are lots of characters who get introduced and then they appear as only background characters later on - Ronove, Virgilia, Gaap, most fantasy characters for example. Umineko suffers from the issue that there are too many characters in it. Too many useless characters.
And about the examples you mentioned - Hideyoshi and Gohda can both be literally summed up in a few words. Hideyoshi - kind guy who likes history and talks in a funny way. Gohda - show-off master chef who can be an ass sometimes but good guy on the inside.

Yes, there are good characters in Umineko, but most of the characters don't do much. What was the purpose of Ange's bodyguard? What was the purpose of Kumasawa? Just to mention the two most bland ones.

>>15674508
>There's also the whole matter with regards to the story's romantic elements, although I'm gonna take a guess and say that you disliked that part as well, right? If I'm wrong then I apologize. But from what I've seen, those who dislike Episode 8 also tend to dislike Episode 6, and claim that the focus on love detracts from the story.

You guessed right, ep6 and ep8 are the weakest ones in my eyes.
My order is
Legend > Banquet > End > Requiem > Alliance> Turn > Dawn > Twilight

To tell the truth, I am not entirely anti-romance. I just don't like teen romance. I liked the parts about the adult's relationships but Shannon and Kanon....god I hated them.

>Without all those other elements coming into play, Umineko would be little more than a logic puzzle. Intellectually stimulating to be sure, but not something that I would have enjoyed as much as I do now.
Character development is one thing but some characters are down-right boring. Again, Shannon and Kanon. Why is it necessary to listen to ">tfw furniture" for hours? All right, Yasu and all but still....those two got an ungodly amount of screen time.

>What it all come down to is appreciating the story's emotional appeal in addition to it's intellectual appeal.
Sadly, a lot of times the emotional appeal fell flat for me.

>"waaa everyone shoulda knew that Kannon and Shannon were the same person"
>"I'm so le smart I would've figured it"
>"I would also have figured where Kinzo's money is, because I'm very intelligent"
No. They're described as brother and sister. People from the same family look very much alike.

>>15674675
No you dumbass, "they aren't related by blood". It was always said that they come from the same orphanage, that is all. Now go back and read it again, you retard.

What is the meaning of the butterfly brooch in episode 2? How is beatrice giving them the ability to love when they technically are all 3 the same person?

>>15674508
>I understand the need for another detective, but Will just felt underwhelming to me,
Definitely agreeing on that. Though Dlanor is the same for me. Erika was the most entertaining character in Chiru.
>A lot of entertaining characters were absent in Requiem; Battler, Beatrice, Lambdadelta, and even Ange up until the tea party.
Actually, I liked that change. I have never been crazy about any of those characters except for Ange so it was a like breath of fresh air. And I ended up liking Lion quite much.

>I feel like it would have been better to try to develop some of the characters that were already available rather than making a new one. For instance, they could have tried having Dlanor act as detective, maybe give her some more development before having her fight alongside Battler's in Episode 8.
I have always thought it would have been ironic if someone other than Battler from the main characters solved the mystery of Beatrice. Like, Jessica and George investigating the case with Bernkastel's help.

>>15674736
I never understood Will's role.
If Yasu wanted a detective, why not use Battler?

>>15674675
They're only ever described as having a relationship like brother and sister

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>>15674675
They're described as being 'like siblings', but they never pretended to be related by blood

>>15674720
Beatrice is the dominant personality so the others are forbidden from experiencing love.

>>15674744
>>15674746
Ha, my bad. I guess I misunderstood, I always believed they were literally brothers and sisters.

My apologies.

>>15674741
It wasn't Yasu who wanted a detective. Will's involvement was because of Bern.

>>15674741
Yasu didn't write Episode 7, if I remember correctly, Tohya did. Will's role was Tohya expressing the fact that he had failed since he discovered the truth too late.

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>>15674750
Battler was kind of entertaining but a shit detective.
Will is actually a good detective but he isn't entertaining.
Erika is where it's at.

God I hate Erika faggotry

>>15674764
Episode 7 wasn't written by anyone, I am quite sure.

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>>15674746
Those sprites are awful.
Original is so much better.

Speaking of original sprites, is it possible to play the VN with original sprites + voices?

>>15674851
Voices?

>>15674802
agreed.. the steam sprites are probably the worst

>>15674836
If you're talking about Steam's release, you can turn on the original sprites.

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>>15674807
Rudolf looks like a train hit him after he had hangover. Seriously, he looks like shit.

>>15674864
Yes, certainly. The ps3 ones are much better but I still like the original the most.

>>15674877
He looks like he hasn't slept in ten years.

Also,
>mangagamer's translation
>uses japanese honorifics
>ellipsis use five dots instead of the usual three
This triggers my autism.

>>15674890
His face looks older than usual too, in my opinion. Almost everyone looks older.

>>15674893
>ellipsis use five dots instead of the usual three
Hm? What do you mean?

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>>15674903
It means that... usually... you use three points... but Umineko uses more points than needed.

>>15674893
>>uses japanese honorifics
Didn't the old translation also do that?

>>15674921
That's impressive that you notice little differences like this.
How much points does Kanon use usually? He always start off with a long ................ before saying anything.

>>15674930
>That's impressive that you notice little differences like this.
Not really, that's my job.
Plus, if you write even a little bit, you learn about stuff like that.

>>15674926
It did? I guess my nostalgia google conveniently removed them.

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>>15674921
That's how the Japanese writing is. Although it seems MangaGamer added a few extra here for some reason

>>15674940
>disdain growing
Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if Japanese had no idea how things works in English.
I don't see them using these points to end a sentence, so maybe they just don't know how to use them "properly".

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>>15674940
>added a few extra here
Nevermind, this isn't the same scene you posted, it just had the same background. The English line has the same amount of periods as the Japanese one. My bad

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>>15674807
>>15674877
Better?

>>15675056
Good job on the girls but Rudolf still looks old to me.

>>15675056
Just remove the pockets under Rudolf's eyes and he'll be the dashing rogue we all know.

Okay, honest question. Is this Lion or not? I honestly have no idea.

Quote from ryukishi - >They are all a bunch of villains pretending to be allies (smile). Anyway, as I've said in the beginning, "the problems you have to solve aren't just the who and the how, you should also take a look at the various situations." I've been hoping everyone will think closely on all sides to come up with the truth. Also, I like nesting a trap inside another trap. People have a tendency to be satisfied once they've discovered a single truth, but they never thought that beyond this so-called truth is the ultimate truth.

Maybe rosatrice actually is true?

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>>15675063
>>15675068

>>15675102
Even if that were the case, I can't see him getting the manga out there like he did with the truths they show, then just leaving it alone indefinitely.

>>15675140
Looks pretty good.

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>>15675102
>Also, I like nesting a trap inside another trap. People have a tendency to be satisfied once they've discovered a single truth, but they never thought that beyond this so-called truth is the ultimate truth.

I don't know if rosatrice is true but this is why I will never stop looking for the truth of Umineko. I won't accept any tricks by ryukishi.
Yasu=Shannon=Kanon? Yeah right!!
Kyrie/Rudolf culprit theory? You wish!!
I won't fall for the "canon" shit.

Those of you who haven't given up yet, post your craziest theories. We will figure everything out.

>>15675159
angetrice

>>15675189
Many new people are playing umineko for the first time due to the steam release. There's still reasons to talk about it

>>15675189
Then you can leave.

>>15675159
Moon-chan 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>15675194
Or it's mostly just two attention whores feeding eachother (You)s

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>>15675181

[Blue Activates]
Ushiromiya Ange was there. She was on Rokkenjima during those two days.
The reason Rudolf and Kyrie left her home was because they were afraid of her. The young girl already showed signs of craziness so they didn't bring her along. However!! She sneaked out and followed after the family! Battler was her accomplice and helped her to stay hidden from the eyes of the other!! They killed everyone but in the end Eva found out they are culprits but she believed Battler forced Ange into killing and shot Battler! She didn't know that it was the other way around!! Ange attacked Eva and the two fought. Ange was hit hard on her head, causing her to pass out. After they returned from Rokkenjima Eva forced little Ange into electro-shock therapy and therefore her memories concerning those two fateful days were erased!! This is the truth of Rokkenjima!!!

>>15675248
Splendid blue truth

>>15675248
Better than platform x

>>15675563
>Ryukishi is basically saying "lol I shit on my readers"
He seems pretty unsufferable when you actually read what he says.

>>15675573
>that scene in ep8 when Will is fighting a goat who stopped thinking
>R07 self-inserted himself as Will in that scene and owned the ignorant reader
Seriously, why does he get butthurt so easily?
Yeah yeah we get it, everyone is stupid.

>>15675685
To be honest i doubt ryukishi really thinks that about his readers, but who knows.

>>15675685
Yeah, that annoyed me too.
I mean, at first I tried to play the game, I paused it, tried to make my own theory.
But most often, my theories were better than Battler's and I ended up facepalming at his stupidity, so I eventually gave up on trying to figuring things out.
And then there's this strawman goat who just doesn't want to think.

Anyone thought about replacing some of the music with tracks from the anime? I did this a while back and found the whole game pretty fresh after that.

>>15675732
The music is the best thing in Umineko, why replace it?

>>15675732
Isn't the anime's music mostly tracks from the VN anyway? Or am I remembering wrong?

>>15675739
The anime has good music too since a lot of it is based on the game music.
>why replace it
To gain new experiences. I mean yeah Umineko has top tier music but if you listened to them a thousand times already even good music like this starts to get boring after a while.

>>15675756
They are remixes mostly but there quite a few original tracks too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbd6zVvXJaI

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>>15675722
Fun fact: when I first played Umineko a while back I didn't even start thinking. I just accepted magic as it was and laughed along with Beato when she trolled Battler over and over again.

>>15674235
because you didn't want it bad enough.

>>15675732
The anime had some okay remixes, but none of them hold a candle to the original ones. And the other tracks from the anime just have a different and more whimsical sort of atmosphere to them.

>>15675801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34McTvgOMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWDH2ARCVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZKsusxlvqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky-XfsOPwsU

Also
>the other tracks from the anime just have a different and more whimsical sort of atmosphere to them.
What exactly do you mean? I think all of them suits Umineko perfectly. If the anime did something, it was the music.

>>15675794
Fun fact : I bothered trying making theories about the murders but I never bothered thinking about who wrote the episodes or what they were.

>>15675842
I just accepted that they were different kakeras like in Higurashi and well...I was right. Kind of.

And I remember I also kind of waited for one of the pieces on the game board to remember another world like Keiichi did in Higurashi,

It says magic is meant to make people happy, and made by love.. where is that inside the games vs Beatrice?

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>>15675722
>>15675685
Did you guys seriously get mad at the Goats in EP8?
I thought it was a genius move.

STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING

USHIROMIYA KYRIE CAN NOT SAVE BATTLER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uy6rfyZwnU

>>15676550
is that a fucking mac window

>>15674251
I'm mostly over my waifu phase, although I sometimes like to claim Bernkastel in waifu claim threads just because I can.

>>15674128
Don't be an idiot. If you want to harp on flaws and ill-conceived conceits then at least aim for the biggest one: the rain

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Reminder that red can't allways be used.

>>15674178
Criminally underrated girl.
>tfw you will never spend your days carefree in a mansion near the ocean with a qt Christmas cake, writing and reading mysteries together

>>15675573
>>15675685
>thinking any of the characters are self inserts of the author
Fuck off.

>>15675835
>anime's remixes of hope and worldenddominator will never be released
why even live

>>15678882
It was pretty obvious that R07 self-inserted himself in that scene. Keep living in denial.

>>15678980
I have never understood why they couldn't release the full ost. This pisses me of so much.