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Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1410/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (61.1%)"
Amairo IsleNauts - prologue and common route fully translated, Shirley route 10% TL, Masaki 18.5% TL, Konoka 55% TL, bonus 20% TL, prologue patch out
Aokana - Common route + 2 character routes translation done
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 32,907 / 64,574 (50.96%) lines translated
Ayakashi Gohan - 49% complete
>Black Wolves Saga: 62/65 scripts translated, 51/65 scripts edited
Bunny Black 2 - To be translated
Clover Day's - 100% of the common route + 348/711 KB, 119/743 KB, 92/764, 338/846 and 74/722 KB of 5 routes translated
Flight Diary - 14.8% translated
Gore Screaming Show - Prologue and day one patch released
HaraKano - Ayana Seno's route patch released
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 - 11409 lines translated
Hoka no Onna - 48.68% translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - New project started, prologue mostly translated
>Ken ga Kimi: 115/122 scripts translated, 100/122 scripts edited
Kiminozo - Common route translation complete
>Koichoco - Going through finishing touches
>Koiken Otome - 96.62% translated, 88.90% edited, prologue patch released
Kurukuru Fanatic - 87.5% translated
Lovely Cation- 26% of lines completed
Lover Able - 6.84% translated
Majikoi A-1 - 11.4%
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Only project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, new demo patch for items, skills, and gameplay text, etc
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
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>Noble Works - 54,169 / 57,690 (93.9%) lines translated, partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - 266/268 scripts translated, 196/268 through TLC+Editing, 121/268 scripts finalized
PersonA - 44% translated
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 22583/30040 (75.18%) lines translated
SakuSaku - 100% translated, 31858/49257 (65%) lines finalized
>Starry Sky In Summer - All scripts translated, 171/177 scripts edited
Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 100% translated and edited, QC and technical work remains
Tsujidou-san no Jun'ai Road - 12/323 scripts translated
Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete - 4282/35056 (15.7%) lines translated
>White Album 2 - 10671/35275 (30.25%) lines of closing chapter translated
>Witch's Garden - 40435/67201 (60.17%) lines translated, 2221/67201 (3.31%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 78.42%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited


Official work

MangaGamer
>KARA NO SHOUJO 2 - RELEASED
EUPHORIA - demo released, 11/27 RELEASE
Free Friends 2 - 100% translated and edited
>HIGURASHI HOU - WATAGANASHI 11/13 RELEASE
Bokuten - 66.5% translated, 30.05% edited
Da Capo 3 - 61.4% translated, 23.47% edited
Gahkthun - 100% translated and edited
OZMAFIA - 89% translated
House in Fata Morgana - 85% translated
Myth - 57.12% translated, 45.8% edited
My Boss Wife is My Ex - 100% translated and edited
Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, 18.13% TL 18.13% edited
Supipara - Ch 1 100% translated and edited
Yurirei - 72% translated, 63% edited
Himawari - TL and editing finished
>Beat Blades Haruka - 79.1% Translated
Umineko - Picked up
Tokyo Babel - 56% translated
Negai no Kakera - Picked up
Princess Evangile W Happiness - Picked up
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JAST
Sonicomi - Fully translated, building launcher
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- main scenerio 100% translated and edited, extra content 33% done
>Flowers - 100% translated, in editing, preparing to port
Seinarukana- Waiting on LE materials. QA checking.
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sumeragi Ryoko - 100% translated, waiting on test build
Sweet Home - 10% translated


Sekai/Denpa
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title in TL through end of Nov
Clannad - 2 of 3 QC passes done, 4Q 2015 release
WAS - Kickstarter finished, delayed
Atom Grrrl - 100% translated
>Narcissu 3rd - 62.41% translated
>Narcissu 0 - 13.40% translated
WEE 3 - 7.39% translated
Nenokami - 37.79% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - picked up
Sacrament Sheep - In Beta
Memory's Dogma - Kickstarter reached goal
>G-Senjou - Released but who cares
Chrono Clock - Picked up
Root Double - Picked up
Tenshin Ranman - Picked up
Witch Boy - Kickstarter failed
Darekoi - Picked up
Wagamama High Spec - 2016 release
Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - Picked up


Other
>EIYUU SENKI - NOV 12TH RELEASE
Harmonia - On Steam GL
>Little Busters - Picked up
>Tomoyo After - Picked up
Muv Luv Trilogy - Kickstarter Started
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 2367/10293 (23%) lines translated
Harvest December - 3DS ports being released
>NORN9 - RELEASED NOVEMBER 3RD
Undertale - Still awesome
>Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Kickstarter preview up
>The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki SC - RELEASED!!!
Magical Eyes - Winter release planned
>Zero Time Dilemma - 2016 release
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sakuuta soon
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>>14316654
OH BABY!
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Yeah man, because I really want MORE of Scaji's pretentious gibberish.
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All these titles I enjoyed being dirtied by filthy translations. What a shame.
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>>14316741
Oh, shut up, Moogy.
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>>14316741
Why not just leave the English-speaking internet entirely and not have to deal with this shit anymore?
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>>14316823
I am confident in my jap reading skills but not my production, and I like you guys. It's just that I hate how atrocious the translation scene is, full of machine translation with some cleaning and everyone still reading them.
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>>14316851
Does it really matter as long as they're still enjoying them? Sure, you can get mad if you see someone complain about bad writing, as I do when I see that happen with Fate/stay night, but generally people don't complain. Aside from about Fate/stay night, for some reason. Because in the end, most people even enjoy stuff like Sakura Beach.
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Look at that, G-Senjou's not even in the top sellers. Can you say FLOP OF THE CENTURY?
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>>14317003
Wait, what the fuck?

>G-Senjou no Maou - Voiced Edition
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>>14317003
Did anyone actually expect it to chart?
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>>14317153
Dovac probably. Lol, bitch got owned.
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>>14316996
Yes, you insecure little shit.
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>>14317194
You sure made an excellent counterpoint, cunt.
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>>14317051
Steam users are cheapskates, so I expected the non-voiced $20 version to sell better. dovac must've figured that without kickstarter and with how Kaijitsu sold that giving a cheaper option was the only way to increase sales.
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>>14317344
I was thinking the same thing. It's a clever scheme to appeal to the Steam crowd that only wants to buy stuff if it's cheap, since a lot of people have been okay with playing those Sakura games without voice acting. This wouldn't be the worst idea for MangaGamer to try with some of their more expensive games, but they're too cool to do something so scummy, I guess.

Honestly, if the full VN were that price, it would be a pretty reasonable price for the game. It's not worth the $40 pricetag.
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Hey, here's some free emotes if you're interested. I know you fellas love free stuff.

(-'⇀'-) (-'ᵕ'-) (-`´-) (-˘̀ᵕ˘́-) (-'̀︿'́-) (-´'~'̀-) (-‶'▱'‶-) ( ・▿・ )
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>>14317417
Steam users are complaining about what the voice patch costs, so the decision has pissed off some people.

Many Steam users are used to voiceless oelvns and like lets players narrating the entire game, so most likely don't mind another voiceless game, since it's half the price of the voiced version.
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>>14317484
>lets players narrating the entire game

Seems difficult. How do they do the girl voices?
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did mub run yurofront get translated? I've seen people posting screencaps with english text. it was probably translated by someone who can't actually read moon so I don't know why I bothered getting excited.
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>>14317677
If it was released by Alternative Project or Alternative Translations or whatever the fuck they call themselves, then yes. One of their guys was caught copy pasting out of Google Translate, somehow none of them noticed, and upon this being pointed out, they all rushed to defend him.
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Adoration is not Euro Front.
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how did sekai manage to pick up people even worse than dovac to handle public-facing matters?
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>>14317885
Well, considering the people in the company are incompetent, it figures that they wouldn't know what a competent employee looks like and would hire even more incompetent ones.

I also don't understand how someone who would use an avatar of a "gangsta" Mario would even have an interest in this line of work.
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>>14317891
Is Hulk Hogan "gangsta?"
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>>14317933
Yes. He calls everyone "brotha" like a black guy. What isn't gangsta about that?
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Fuck VNs. Mushihimesama is on Steam now. Go buy that instead.
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Seems like sekai is censoring discussions on gsenjou forums again. They'll never learn huh.
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What's up with JAST?
Everything is fully translated or not even begun translating.

Are they going to release 5 things at once in a package deal or what.

What are their translators working on right now then since apparently Sweet Home is the only thing below 100% and above 0%
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>>14318201
They wouldn't be JAST if they were competently managed.
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>>14317615
>How do they do the girl voices?
Hilariously. Some try to do different girl voices, while some just speak in their regular voice.

Also, some lets players are actually girls.
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>>14318163
If it's about the cropping issue, then their pinned post already said that they'd lock or delete any thread that brings it up.
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>>14318066
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People are only allowed the stream the first chapter of G-Senjou.
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>>14318305
It's nice to see that once again, their mea culpa is "blame the developers."
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>>14318306

It's a shame that mangagamer doesn't do the same thing. Would likely help their PR.
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I still can't believe with the launch discount that the voiceless version of G-Senjou is only $14. It might be bad for longer vns if people start expecting this price for full-length vns, especially at launch, though.
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>>14318306
I love how its always "devs are the bad ones". Every single time. Despite such things never happening with any other localization company.
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>>14318337
Its a shame that people who want to localize visual novels suck at running businesses to the point where their audience hates them.

>>14318346
When I saw the price, I was also quite surprised. The release is usually a time of high sales, yet they decide to release it very very cheap, butchering their own profits. People who wanted to buy it on release wouldve payed the full 20/40. What they shouldve done was put it on sale for a while after clannad came out, a time where people wouldve have finished G Senjou for full price and have spread good news and making it more well known.

However, regarding price expectations some normal RPGs sell for like 40 normal price and others sell for 60 normal price. When longer VNs come out for higher, people will expect it to be longer / better as well.
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>>14318377
When it comes to streaming, many Japanese devs are against it. MOONSTONE (likely due to Evangile's success) and some of MG's other partners are okay with it, but that doesn't mean that all of their games are allowed to be completely streamed.

Other games published by Sekai Project are allowed to be streamed, but games like Grisaia and G-Senjou aren't, because the devs don't want them to be.
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>>14318377
And it's always after a round or two of SP fucking shit up and pissing everyone off. Every single time, it's
>Do something shitty
>People get pissed off
>SP tells them to fuck off, starts banning, etc
>Even more people get pissed off from their reaction
>Oh, we mean it was the devs who told us we have to do it. We're totally on your side and have no choice.
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>>14318305
I don't even know why people want to stream themselves fucking reading.
Even moreso, I don't know who would even want to watch someone fucking reading

How do you fap to H while streaming?

Sekai Project is probably obliged to do this, because of Akabei2Soft's tyranny.
Many VNs, when you open them, tell you not to stream them or upload gameplay videos on the screen that you never read.
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>>14318273
Pinned post? What pinned post? There's no cropping issues, pinned posts about it or any complainers, anon. Sekai Project was always in was with Ostasia.
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>>14318406
Go ahead and post about it then.
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>>14318406
Are discussions on steam always this terrible?
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>>14318420
Yes. They are the core userbase of SP. That should explain a lot to you.
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>>14318406
Time to start posting so I can make a fuss on reddit when I get banned. Others should join me.
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>>14318406
They unpinned the post.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/377670/discussions/0/490124466479176329/
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>>14318431
Maybe they realized that pinning the very thing they don't want people to know about was a stupid idea.
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>>14318431
Well considering they're pro-censorship this doesn't surprise me the least.
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>>14318406
Did you mean to make a 1984 reference but you fucked up the sentence somehow? Which, even if it's possibly unintentional, is actually good because it adds layers to the joke since that's how a Sekai Project translation would look.
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>>14318450
Censor the games, censor any criticism. It's consistent, I'll give them that.
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It would be nice if the Aokana group released a partial patch of what they have so far so that when the anime airs in winter next year, we can all not be secondaries and shitpost on /a/ about how superior primaries are.

I'm going to be too interested to not watch it, but I also don't want to watch an adaptation that will probably be worse than the source and ruin my impression of it.
Same with Kouya.
Being an EOP sucks.
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>>14318478
>It's consistent, I'll give them that.
Oh, they're very consistent. Just like how they consistently need kickstarters to translate shit that's already been translated for years. Or like how they're consistently fucking up these translations, somehow. Or consistently being greedy and baiting backers with exclusive merch instead of doing small, limited releases for all the fans who want some.

Yes, they're very consistent.
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>>14318506
The Kouya anime is airing before the game releases anyway.
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>>14318506
I'm not going to watch it because the patch is already coming along pretty well and VN adaptations butcher the material so often that it perplexes me that they keep trying to do them when other types of adaptations generally turn out much better. I don't have to worry about my impression being ruined because I know how bad of a representation these anime are so I don't let them change my perceptions.
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Since this thread has a lot of non-Americans, I have a question. How come Europeans kiss people who aren't family members all the time?
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>>14318618
I am from Yurop and don´t do it. Are you perhaps talking about French or others from area of Mediterranean Sea ?
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>>14318643
Probably. Seeing a French person do it made me think about it but I've seen it with non-French people so I said Europe to be safe. Also, why don't you do it?
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>>14316654
Why did they turn her into a big boobed slut with bad art?
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>>14317885
Isn't that the guy who wrote the Yu-no article for HG101?
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"SURE AM GLAD I HAVE CLOSED CAPTIONS" - Guy who doesn't know Japanese
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>>14318664
Interestingly enough, her breast size factors quite a bit to the story, or at least to a lot of funny conversations. I do like her better drawn with sensible size breasts myself, too, though.
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>>14318794
Those don't even look all that big to me. Are eroge readers insane?
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>>14318794
That doesn't excuse them from being out of proportion and badly drawn, though. I'm aware that the original artist is no longer with Makura so they probably couldn't use the CGs he did, but they could have gotten Kagome or someone else to do Rin's and Shizuku's CGs. There's so much sameface it hurts to even look at.
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>>14316654
subahibi never
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>>14318943
Seems that way
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>>14318943
I'm sure herkz will start editing it one day.
I'm not sure if he'll ever finish editing it though.
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>>14318990
Herkz's editing is literally nothing. If the rest of the patch existed there'd be no reason for it not to be released by now. As it is, he's just pretending the work is in his hands so that they have an excuse to never release anything else.
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>>14319003
on Aug 9 he edited the page of references on the subahibi wiki
http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=Subarashiki_Hibi:References&diff=119573&oldid=119467
I just found this right now. I was curious about the subahibi page of tlwiki and saw the references page and felt like seeing what it had in store. At the bottom was edited aug 9. Checked the revision history and the last one to edit it was Herkz.
The only explanation for this is that he's reading/editing it right now and came across an unlisted reference and added it.
That's around 25 days the second pass of editing was supposed to start.
Looking at his contributions he also edited the walkthrough page.
The project probably is in herkz's hands right now. He just cant hold all the subahibis.

Believe
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>>14319024
When you think about it, herkz is quite possibly one of the worst people ever to be editing Subahibi. If you look at his opinions of stuff on places like Twitter/Reddit and his ask.fm, very obvious social commentary just flies completely over his head. He is the poster boy for taking things at face value and one of the least insightful people I have seen on the internet. And this is the fucker editing Subahibi. I feel sorry for Scaji.
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>>14319032
That's why he's taking so long
He's reading/watching everything that is reference in subahibi when its referenced, so he is able to edit it with absolute of the reference. In addition, he is studying humanities in other non-referenced works to improve his understanding of society and past societies. He's doing it for us. For free. When subahibi comes out, we'll be sorry to have ever doubted him.
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>>14319049
Yeah, I wish, but retards don't exactly stop being retarded.
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>>14319024
Never realized how similar FFTA and Undertale are.
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>>14318990
At this point, I'm almost certain they're trying to make an official release out of it somehow. This silence is much too unnatural.
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>>14319176
He's just busy with other stuff
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>>14319176
Who is? SP? Is this another reason to bring out the pitchforks?
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>>14319203
SP can't possibly do Subahibi with the content it contains, even setting aside sex. It would be MG if anything.

That reminds me, that was another game where the project went silent and it seemed probable that it was because of negotiations for a patch. But it was a while ago now so I forget what game.
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>>14319185
He's not fucking "busy" with other stuff. He's a NEET who doesn't DO other stuff. He's just not working on it, either because he's lazy or because the project is dropped.
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>>14319239
Or maybe because he fansubs
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>>14319265
He literally presses the spellcheck button and calls it a day. He doesn't actually do anything of note for Commie despite owning the group.
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>>14319265
He doesn't know Japanese.
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>>14319276
Pretty sure he knows some. Also, you don't have to know Japanese to fansub.
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>>14319235
I guess I'd be ok with waiting for an official release if it was MG making sure its a legit translation
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>>14319284
He literally presses the spellcheck button and calls it a day. He doesn't actually do anything of note for Commie despite owning the group.
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>>14319302
That'd be for the best. I read the partial and it's full of pretty blatant translation errors. Considering their editor doesn't know Japanese I doubt he'll catch them.
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>>14319235
>would be MG if anything.
Just imagine what would happen id JAST got the license. SubaHibi release would at minimum be on 2017.

>that was another game where the project went silent and it seemed probable that it was because of negotiations for a patch. But it was a while ago now so I forget what game
Wasn't that a Moonstone game?
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>>14319284
Herkz knows some Furigana I believe
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>>14319349
Which is the equivalent of knowing your ABCs, not the actual fucking language. And I know what you meant but I don't think you understand what furigana means.
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>>14318661
We shake hands instead
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>>14319363
I'm going to be straight with you, I saw it in an anime. I don't know anything about real people.
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>>14319329
lol
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>>14319382
Mmm, I can taste the salt from Herkz's tears. *lick lick*
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>>14319369
You saw in anime Europeans kissing as greeting ?
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>>14319389
Yes. They called it a "bise."
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How come Sekai Project keeps on shitting out bad translations? You'd think they'd have learned by now?
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>>14319394
It must have been French
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Can someone upload steam version of G-senjou?
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>>14319415
Yup, it is set in France. But in my travels I have seen a British girl do it too. So maybe part of Europe really likes kissing? I dunno.
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>>14319416
Why in the FUCK would you want that, you PIECE OF SHIT?
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>>14319427
Because 1280x720.
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>>14319416
The only difference between that and the all-ages fan TL patch is the cropped, 720p CG.
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>>14319428
You SHALLOW MOTHERFUCKER. You're not READY for G-Senjou, it's TOO DEEP FOR YOU.
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>>14319426
It's a pretty common greeting in Eastern Europe / Russia, too, especially among older women.
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>>14319410
Because people keep buying them
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>>14319447
Ahhh, Russians. Of course.
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Apparently, when Conjueror finishes his part of Tokyo Babel he'll translate Change.
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>>14319467
Shame it's not true. Better than another chuuni shit desu.
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>>14319472
Desu yo ne.
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>>14319467
He already confirmed he's doing Bullet Butlers next.
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>>14319491
Why do they keep picking games no one is going to buy? The only chuunishit anyone would buy is from Light or Lass.
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>>14319496
You can't be seriously putting Lass above propeller. Are you out of your mind?

Or are EOPs clueless to that extent?
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>>14319504
He says "chuunishit." He was daft from the start. Not an EOP thing, just an idiot thing.
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>>14319496
The Ayakashibito fan patch helped make Propeller more popular in the west. Chuuni is what the Naruto fans want.
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>>14319504
>>14319509
Oh yes, those famous Propeller games that hardly anyone in the English community has ever heard of besides Asairo. You got me, man.
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>>14319513
> Ayakashibito fan patch helped make Propeller more popular in the west
Patch is out more than year now, and its still has only slightly more than 500 vote on vndb. Chuunishit is doomed in west.
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>>14319513
The number of DLs for the Ayakashibito patch was pretty tiny, iirc.
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>>14319504
Let me laugh at you more now.
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>>14319519
>Asairo
If a translation of Asairo is eventually announced, I'll only feel pity for the translator. He'll probably want to kill himself.
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>>14319520
Acting like vndb scores and votes are a measure of a vns quality.
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>>14319526
Sougeki no Jaeger and Pygmalion are considered Propellers worst works. And Pygmalion and Tokyo Babel are all-ages, which EGS tends to give lower scores.
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>>14319532
Its a measure of vns popularity in west.
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>>14319548
Most games are only popular because they've been fan TLed, have an anime, or someone like Moogy says they're the best games ever.
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>>14319526
evolimit, Kitto, Chronobelt, and Bullet Butlers have median scores of 80. Ayakashibito is rated at 85. Those are the popular Propeller games.
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>>14319551
Yes. Ayakashibito was fantled and is very unpopular compared to other fantled games. That's the point.
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>>14319567
Once it get put on Steam it will one of the most popular vns in the west. Just like what happened with Princess Evangile.
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>>14319567
It has over 500 votes on vndb and has an average score close to 8/10.
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>>14319586
While something as terrible as Shuffle has 2300 votes and FSN has 6500 votes.
>Popularity: ranked #101 with a score of 11.51
This is below huge batch of untranslated game, complete disaster when considering it commercial perspectives.
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>>14319519
Nobody in the English community has heard of Himawari, must be a trash game.
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>>14319586
> It has over 500 votes on vndb
Hinatabokko has over 800, and no one gives a shit about Hinatabokko.
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>>14319590
Princess Evangile only has just over 600 votes and has a rating of 7.6, so it's not exactly an indicator of sales potential.
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>>14319593
>muh no-name lolige
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>>14319526
>using EGS as a source

This guy's a fucking retard.
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Ayakashibito is the biggest action visual novel after FSN as far as eroge are concerned in Japan (bigger than Dies Irae) so it's more likely a problem with the genre in general, not propeller why it's not particularly popular in the west.

In any case, you'd have to be really out of touch not to know of propeller and Higashide Yuuichirou if you weren't an EOP.

My guess for why the brand might not be as well known around here is that Moogy hasn't played their action titles, and it seems it's solely the games he praises that get hyped in this place (even though no one seems to want to admit it).
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>>14319605
>even though no one seems to want to admit it
Including you?
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>>14319559
Hey, those aren't going to get translated! You're confusing popularity in Japan to what's known and popular in the West. Try to find people hyping for those titles.
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>>14319605
Literally nothing gets hyped in this place besides Muramasa, Baldr Sky and Dies Irae. It's not about Moogy, it's about the community picking three games and refusing to give a fuck about anything else.
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>>14319605
Most vndb users never heard about mugi. I guess people just don't connect it to being "same genre as FSN", FSN being top #1 game shows that people love chuunishit.
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>>14319615
Lots of people hype Evolimit, and most people thought we were going to get Bullet Butlers once the Propeller partnership was leaked.
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>>14319615
> Try to find people hyping for those titles.
Few tweets from Moogy and it would be next Subahibi-tier hype.
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>>14319596
It also came out semi-recently compared to those other games.

>>14319593
Yes they have.
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>>14319526
Maybe you should've scrolled down, and taken a screenshot of proper propeller's games instead of coming off as a clueless twat? Jaeger and Pygmalion were made after Higashide left the company, and he WAS propeller (the brand is now as good as dead).

Ironically, he's working for Type-Moon now (Fate/Go).
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>>14319620
Hidshide did some work on some Fate projects, so they should really hype that up when Tokyo Babel is about to come out.
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>>14319617
>Muramasa, Baldr Sky and Dies Irae.
Oretsuba and WA2 too.
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>>14319617
My hype for Muramasa died after I read Hanachirasu.
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>>14319621
>Lots of people
I've hardly seen it mentioned let alone hyped.
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>>14319622
People exaggerate how much other people care about Moogy. And then it gives him a massive ego, so fuck you.
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>>14319628
Why would I? Only the recent titles are going to be brought over because MangaGamer doesn't want to work on anything that isn't in widescreen, dunce.
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>>14319640
Ayakashibito has a Vita port, so it has widescreen, all-ages Steam potential.
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>>14319635
Don't care about those dumb moege.
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>>14319575
Except for the fact that it isn't nearly that popular
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>>14319640
MangaGamer is putting Kindred Spirits on Steam and that's not widescreen.
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>>14319644
> Ayakashibito has a Vita port
No. It's psp and ps2.
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>>14319653
Obviously there are exceptions but MG staff often dismiss non widescreen titles.
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>>14319647
Good, since dovac says that OreTsuba and White Album 2 are impossible.


>Baldr Sky duology
>Ever17 -the out of infinity-
>Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai
>Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai!
>Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai! S
>White Album 2

https://forums.sekaiproject.com/t/frequently-requested-games/292
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>>14319663
They can just crop them to make them 720p.
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Kara no Shoujo 2 has been cracked. Hopefully MG managed to sell alot of copies before that happened.
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>>14319665
>Ever17
Why?
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>>14319678
It's due to who owns the rights to it.
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dovac thinks that the Narcissu kickstarter honestly has a chance to hit 100k.
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>>14319496
>Light
Fuck chuunishit, I want Gunjou no Sora wo Koete.
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>>14319733
Unfortunately, it could.
> $120,166 trending toward
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>>14319754
That's based on the rush at the start of the campaign. The trending amount drops drastically toward the end of the campaign. They've had far fewer pledges the last few days.
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>>14319758
I know, but 100k$ is still within spread margin. Magical boy had few spikes in the middle of campaign once they started to promote it properly, so its not impossible for same thing happening with Narcissu + finishing rush.
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I wish I had the balls to open some fake company and promise the stars from the sky in some Kikestarter project. Never has it been easier to scam so many people with so little effort.
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>>14319772
Based on the average pledge amount, they need over 400 more backers just to hit the base goal. That might be possible, but 100k seems farfetched at this point.
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>>14319777
Looking at AJ Tilley, you could release shit and just keep doing it over and over again. So long as there's porn, then people will keep donating. You're not technically doing anything wrong in that case.
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Why donate to Narcissu when you can buy a voiceless verison of G-Senjou for only $14? It's like Sekai was trying to steal its own thunder.
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>>14319829
When you are burning through last reserves, you can become a bit desperate to get more funds.
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I'm disappointed in tlwiki, the editor of the fan translation is openly endorsing sekai's practices in censorship and shitty behavior. I bet sekai threatened him legally to only talk about how great this is.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999935899/recommended/377670/
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>>14319881
TLWiki was supporting SP for a long time. G-String wouldn't happen if Moogy wouldn't push it and convince tl team to cooperate with dovac and then coordinate whole thing.
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This is hilarious. The Sekai script is worse than the fan TL.

>While playing the 1st chapter I noticed that there are many places where there are "?!" instad of "Maou" or "Devil". I'm pretty certain that was not the case in the fan translation.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/377670/discussions/0/490125103627402242/
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Hahaha get fucked sekai
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>>14319970
Old news.
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>>14319970
>All those spelling and grammatical errors
Isn't that supposed to be their official Patreon? Where they release official statements?
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>>14319970
I would be laughing with you but who cares about winged cloud?
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>>14319970
I'd be laughing too if you weren't backing Winged Cloud on patreon
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>>14319970
>storys
>STORYS

Winged Cloud, everyone. A company dedicated to writing - bringing you the best storys.
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>>14319665
Why do people even ask companies to release shit that's already translated?
Ever17 was an official release too.
Does anybody know why baldr is on there? Is it just too long or are there legal complications?
Well doest matter heroduc is translating this as we speak.
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>>14319928
I've noticed that the "big scene dudes" like Herkz and Moogy all do horrible things like supporting Sekai Project and using Reddit. None of them ever have good things to say about MangaGamer. It bugs me, it's like they're trying to force this shitty company to the forefront just because it's "their internet friends" and just completely ignoring the good company that has standards because they're not part of the big cult. Notice how for all their translation errors, Moogy, who is KNOWN for shitting all over Ixrec's translations, has NEVER ONCE criticized Sekai Project translations. It's like, when you have to push a company this hard to get people to accept them, maybe you should look at it and realize there's something wrong with it.
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>>14320528
They think the companies are their friends and want to give them easy work. They also think it will let them support the creators of the games when really it's just the companies making money. People are all too eager to make visual novels accepted in the west and are very dumb about how they go about it.
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>>14320531
Wrong, Moogy doesn't criticize SP PUBLICLY but he was laughing his ass off on IRC when NekoPara was released and mocked SP translators for it for ages.
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>>14320541
That's even worse. Doesn't have the balls to do it in public because he thinks he might get a job there someday.
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>>14319369
>>14318643

French definitely do it, I should know I am french
Faire la bise is pretty common, even in workplace and shit
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>>14320550
And come to think of it Nekopara wasn't even a Sekai Project translation. They got their own translator and just released it through Sekai Project. So if that's the only one Moogy was criticizing then he's scared to criticize something they actually did, too. Hell, he could be criticizing them releasing all these fan translations, but NOPE, completely silent. Fuck this coward.
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>>14320559
> And come to think of it Nekopara wasn't even a Sekai Project translation
Not true. It was SP's translators under SP control. Where the fuck you got this bullshit?
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>>14320559
dovac himself claimed responsibility for shitty translation, arguing it was shit because of deadlines.
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>>14320541
I also remember Herkz shit talking the Clannad translation sometime ago.
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>>14320550
It's not about sekai project specifically. Moogys very well known so his opinions and voice spread well and have some influence. Talking shit on a company publicly would ruin his image completely as a person in the localization industry. Who would want to hire or work with someone who publicly bad mouths another company's work in a nonconstructive way? While he doesn't tweet about it, he probably goes on here to shitpost anonymously like the rest of us. I haven't even read anything from sekai to judge their work. He probably doesn't bother reading their random doujin Sakura-tier shit either since he only likes hipster shit
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>>14320567
It was translated by a native Japanese translator hired by Neko Works. This shit is well known.

>>14320573
Dovac makes shit PR decisions, news at 11.
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>>14320752
That makes all the times Sekai Project said that they were doing the translation, and that they would be bringing on extra translators to improve the quality a little silly then.
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>>14320628
>Talking shit on a company publicly would ruin his image completely as a person in the localization industry.

As if it hasn't already been ruined by his complete failure to translate Trample on Schatten. Moogy has never and will never get another job in the industry. Yet he still fancies himself as some sort of VN bigshot.
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>>14320764
Yes, it does. But you should have known better - Sekai Project has been known to lie about the work they're doing on a translation before. Like how they say they're going to do a bunch of editing and then they just release the fan translation as-is. Nekopara was one Japanese nerd who also did the Chinese translation, that's it. He probably didn't even get paid well for it.
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>>14320752
> It was translated by a native Japanese translator hired by Neko Works
No, it wasn't, stop making up shit. It was SP's "translator", living in USA. There are even accounts of other SP translators meeting him in person and discussing how to butcher NekoPara more.
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>>14320787
So, to get this straight SP's translators aren't to blame is because SP lies about every aspect of their translations.

Okay.
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>>14320810
>>14320830
SP doesn't HAVE translators, you fucking retards.
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>>14320936
Shows how little you really know. Or you are just shitposting here.
They have several full-time translators, like that Aginyan faggot or that Batman-Trantez faggot.
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>>14320628
rekt m8
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>>14320954
Oh yes, the soap opera guy who doesn't know Japanese and the guy who acts like he was the driving force of Narcissu when he wasn't even the one who translated it. Such great "translators" there. (They are not translators, idiot.)
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>>14320981
They are employed as translators => they are translators. Whether they can translate is irrelevant.
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>>14320960
I predicted last thread that he would repost this on Twitter with some condescending comment and dodge the accusations, and he did not disappoint. This fucking guy trying to victimize himself when he outright said he enjoys pissing people off. And "I basically never look at it" yet he can't help but post screencaps and keep bringing this thread up, because he craves the attention. Yet he won't actually respond to any of the accusations because he knows they're true, he just goes on some unrelated cocky tirade about racism. Yeah, because accusing a guy of being a bad editor makes you racist. I get it, he's trying to play the race card for sympathy. What a cunt.
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>>14320985
If they've never actually done their job, then no, they are not translators.
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Sekai Project just pinned a post to Sakura Beach 2's discussion forum. This is strange, since Sekai isn't their publisher any more. Unless the entire thing was a ruse to make it look like Sekai's not the one publishing those crappy games.
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>>14321031
dovac is missing all that sakura money and trying to show them that he would like to be buddies again.
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>>14321031
If I had to guess they probably haven't taken away Sekai Project's forum powers and Sekai Project is trying to ingratiate themselves with Winged Cloud to maybe try and get them back.

Also, wow, that game is already out? How the hell do they make these so fast? I know the story isn't much work, but surely making the art at least takes up a fair amount of time.
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>>14321048
They're reusing art assets. Only one new sprite set needs to be made for the new character and then any new CGs they decide to make.
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>>14321051
Tachie and CG are two most cost and labor intense components of VN.
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>>14321034
Either WC pinned the post, or Sekai did, which means they still have access to do so. The latter of which would be odd.

WC does't need Sekai any more. They have their own audience, so there's no reason for them to go back to Sekai. They'd just be giving Sekai free money if they did that.
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>>14321052
I don't even know what Tachie is.
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>>14321061
Then use google, bitch.
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>>14321061
立ち絵
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>>14320985
Stop posting
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>>14321055
Sekai Project still has a loyal fanbase, so it might be that they're still trying to keep around the people who are loyal to SP but not Winged Cloud.
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>>14321052
I work on EVNs. It's true that they are, but when you have everything else planned out, and assuming there's not a whole lot to do (Sakura Beach 2 for example), they can get done pretty quick. It probably didn't take more than a month, if that, for all the new assets to be made.
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>>14321067
Because its too uncomfortable for you to be exposed as retard and having no counter-arguments?
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>>14321064
Fuck you, whore. Suck my dick.
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>>14321075
I'm not the anon you were replying to. You're just really dumb.
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>>14321068
I doubt those people would keep buying Sakura games if they weren't already fans of the Sakura series. Most of Sekai's fans want deep story vns.
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>>14321086
>Most of Sekai's fans want deep story vns.

LOL!
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>>14321083
Sure you aren't. Now go treat your butthurt.
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>>14321094
They want the Ever17's, which means they want mysteries and twists. Then there's the ones who want romantic moe games.
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>>14321106
I thought they wanted memes and anime girls.
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>>14321124
They want it all, since Sekai's attracted an audience with varied tastes. It's like on MG's forums when the mains requests are various nukige and generic moege #5778.
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>>14321136

MG's forums are full of a handful of really autistic weirdos. I don't think they're representative of the entire customerbase.
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>>14321136
Well, MG's biggest titles are various shitty nukige and generic moege like Princess Evangile.
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>>14321149
>really autistic weirdos
sounds representative to me
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Was Doddler allowed outside on Halloween?
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>>14321124
Not really Sekai Project's customer base. Nekopara's an outlier, those people don't buy other SP titles.
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"design choice"
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>>14321152
>generic moege like Princess Evangile.

Confirmed for knowing nothing about Princess Evangile.
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>>14320960
This has nothing to do with SP, Moogy, or speaking ill toward translations from official works publicly.
This is just Herkz racking in popularity points for top idol.
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>>14321226
It has mediocre ratings on vndb and it's even lower on EGS. I've read it and enjoyed it, but I'm not going to pretend it's something more.
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>>14321086
Here's what I think might be going on. Winged Cloud splitting from Sekai Project isn't widely known, so in one final display of bitterness they're linking the Patreon so that people can see WC unprofessionally whining about Sekai Project.
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>>14321235
>Let me make my point by linking review averages!

Retard. Go back to /v/.
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>>14319957
>Well, it's an issue so minor you can basically ignore it. It won't affect your reception of the game that much

People will defend literally anything these days. SP should chop VNs up and sell the common route as a base with individual routes as DLC, seems pretty clear they can do anything and people will keep sucking their dick and asking for more.
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>>14321244
People are seriously way too forgiving of Sekai Project just because "OMG THEY'RE MAKING VNS POPULAR IN THE WEST!". So is MangaGamer, and they're not bungling it, so fuck off.
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>>14321242
Nothing wrong with that when I'm already making broad statements about it. I think it's actually underrated a bit compared to other moege but they're not unreasonable scores.
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>>14321244
>sell the common route as a base with individual routes as DLC

You joke, but I've actually seen people complain that we /didn't/ do that because they didn't want to pay for routes featuring characters they weren't attracted to.
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>>14321254
It doesn't seem like a bad business model if the total cost of all the DLC is the same price as the game would have been already.
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>>14321253
Well don't make broad statements. That is the problem killing discussion. All people who make broad statements are stupid.
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>>14321261
Yeah, it would probably make money off people who wouldn't buy the game otherwise.
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>>14321219
Just like the typing by line instead of by letter, which looks like absolute shit.
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>>14321219
The original developer is Japanese. They didn't pick the fucking font. What is with Sekai Project blatantly lying to customers just to make excuses for not having to do things? This is so lazy, a good indie dev would be like "Alright, let me get on fixing that" but these guys are like "NOPE SHUT UP IT'S THE DEVELOPER'S FAULT FUCK YOU."
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I am so glad I read G-Senjou years ago when the patch came out before Sekai Project started ruining things on the scene and everyone got angry about everything.
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>>14321261
I'm pretty sure companies would end up worse off if people bought routes one by one. Can you honestly say you'd buy e.g. all five heroines in an average game? I wonder if the average player even completes one route, let alone be persuaded to make 2-4 more purchases .

Even if the lower prices attract more people to give it a go, I'm doubtful the lower average spend would offset them (especially in a small market like VNs). Much easier to sell the common + a chosen route as the product and the other routes as the replayability.
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So Sekai Project and Winged Cloud patched things up. Dovac's back on top!
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>>14321318
Nice try, Dovac. But worst try.
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>>14321318
Patched up or not, money still goes only to WC.
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>>14321283
To derail slightly, the font in KnS2 looks fucking awesome even when full screen. I wish everything had such crisp text (it helps the font was well chosen too). Considering reading is 95% of the product it's amazing how little attention most companies seem to pay to text rendering, Japanese devs included.
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You ever notice that Herkz is so egotistical that when the board attacks HIM, it's suddenly the worst place ever? Nevermind that we praise people who deserve praise all the time, such as Doddler. But because we dared to criticize Herkz, we're suddenly the worst people on the internet. Get over it, Herkz. It's time to realize that when a lot of people have issues with your behavior, the problem is you, and not them.
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>>14321329
Yeah, but who gets to pin Steam forum threads? Sekai Project has all the real power.
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>>14321346
Its more funny how calling out him on his lack of knowledge or skill is now suddenly "racist". Lazy arrogant basement-dwellers are now separate race.
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>>14321357
People like to pull out the "You're racist!" accusation when they know they can't say anything else to defend themselves. It's pathetic.
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Herkz calling it racism just shows another reason why he is not qualified to be an editor. HE DOES NOT KNOW THE DEFINITION OF ENGLISH WORDS. And this is the idiot editing Subahibi. I feel sorry for Scaji.
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>>14321369

Dude, stop being so racist.
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http://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answer/132119377649

What the...fuck? How does this happen from playing a VN?
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>>14320960
Did someone here actually post something racist about herkz or is he just being dumb?

Does anyone even know what race he is?
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>>14321406
White straight male.
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>>14321406
He's just being dumb. "4chan's saying mean things about me, I'll call them racist!" Dude drags his own reputation through the mud without even trying.
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>>14321388
Unity engine has all sorts of weird issues.
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>>14321416
Issues that fucking set the computer on fire? Why do people use it?
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MangaGamer just updated their progress on a bunch of stuff. Tomorrow's VNTS will have the numbers so I don't need to post them I guess. But I think it's impressive how MangaGamer is just blasting through the translations of all their recent stuff, I've never seen them go as quickly as they have lately.

Also if you think this picture is cute and look up the source, you're gonna get mad. :)
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>>14321418
It's accessible, well documented, and supports cross-platform development well. It's convenient for indies. Ask Doddler, he'll probably give you a more detailed answer.
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>>14321451
Alright, message sent.
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Le respect est le lien de l amitié.

Which is why Herkz has no friends. All he ever does is sit around insulting people. I imagine he's one of those people who has never had a meaningful conversation with anyone he's talked to online, he just wakes up every day and gets ready for another round of insulting people on IRC and Twitter. I've known these types people personally, you can tell how empty they are because they don't know how to talk to someone normally. Just shit talking and memes.
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I really want to play Tasogaredoki. Hopefully it'l actually get made and not dropped.
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>>14321564
If it does, the other two won't. And the first one is pretty much nothing but the introduction for the others.
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>>14321575
Not the first time that's happened.
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>>14321575
In that case, maybe the grisaia thing happens and people want more?
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>>14321577
>>14321582
Such is the plight of Japanese-Nonreading-Friends.

Also I believe the English communities are now beyond possilibity of Grisaia-like success to anything. Yes, le Reddit and Fuwanovels can still muster up some support, but that seems mostly work for just playing for previously existing fan-translations.

Well, to project the future, 吸血鬼姫のリブラ Kickstarter will be very telling.
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>>14321597
>playing for previously existing fan-translations.
*paying
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>>14321597
I mean there are anime adaptations that stop after the "introduction". Ugh.
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>>14321597
Why? It's literally a no-name game from a no-name company who has never made or been associated with anything of any note.
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>>14321832
Because it will show whether or not even unknown VNs without hype can succeed on KS.

onomatope*'s VNs have consistently okayish scores on EGS, so it's not like they're making crap.
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/brand.php?brand=3088
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>>14321843
>all but one is below 70

You obviously don't know what the typical EGS score range is.
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>>14321843
Don't link that shitty website to make a point. Your first line is right though. This is a test of what exactly can make it on Kickstarter. If a no-name, probably unnotable game can do it, anything can.
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>>14321853
Pff, EGS is more telling than anything you could ever link on the Western side.
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>>14321856
Yeah, and what it's telling us is that almost nobody's played their games, and that they're below average even for generic moege.
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>>14321856
There is nothing you can fucking link period. This isn't even ABOUT linking some shit to make a point.
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>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/world-end-economica-complete/posts/1407174

Sekai Project's Kickstarter updates are just advertisements for Narcissu Kickstarter.

"Here's an update, so in return, we expect you to back this next project"

Do they have no shame?
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>>14321898
Obviously not.
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>>14321898
>estimated delivery: May 2015
>November 2015: Our new translator has finished reading episode.01 and episode.02 and will start working on episode.03 full time next week At this rate we're looking at an estimated 6 month turn around for getting the game out to backers.

Close!
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>>14321898
The translator is going to be the same one as that shitty cyclops game? He couldn't even get the the first few sentences right. Sekai qualitty right there.
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>>14321923
Keep in mind too that this was done after the first chapter. It's been 18 months since the KS ended, they're on their third translator, and have only translated one chapter of a tiny doujin game.
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>>14321942
Got examples? I don't want to touch that piece of crap myself, but love seeing SP embarrass themselves.
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>>14321898
they are panic mode because the kickstarter is stalled which is great two failures in a row will be pretty funny
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>>14321993
God, I hope so. They are a plague.
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>>14321993
I really hope it does happen. But yeah, you can tell when things are going wrong for Sekai because they start trying to advertise their stuff in the most nonsensical of places. Planetarian's sales are shit? Well damn, better tell the Sakura Spirit fans to buy it, they're totally the same audience.
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>>14321993
I hope Root Double doesn't sink with Sekai.
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>>14322073
I hope it does, because there's no way that an actual VN studio signed with them contingent on fucking crowdfunding, and SP has said that they'll translate just about everything they've Kickstarted anyway. It'd be nice if they had to shell out some of their own money instead of taking advantage of the ignorant fandom.
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>>14321942
Now each of the WEE episodes can get a shitty translation done by a different person. Sekai Project quality right there. They might even get it done right within 2 years of the Kickstarter!
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>>14321219
What game is this for?
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>>14321993
Narcissu will probably still make the 75k goal after the end of project surge. If only they hadn't dropped the 150k goal.
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>>14322132
More's the pity considering how full of bullshit it is about "making a new game."
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>>14322142
Now we'll get to hear about how they're making the game because of Dovac's generosity despite not making the full costs of it in the kickstarter.
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>>14321235
I don't even usually enjoy moege, because the genre is pretty dull to me as a whole, but even I liked Evangile. Ruriko provided alot of entertaining moments for me.
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>>14322153
And then, as expected, it won't make a profit and with all the big companies having jumped ship on them, they'll be that much closer to dying.
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Hey, just wondering, who was it that made money off World End Economica initially? I bought Ch. 1 back when it first came out and I'm pretty sure Sekai Project's name wasn't on it at the time but it is now. They didn't get any of my money for that, right?
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>>14322157
They put an impressive amount of thought into the setting and characters.
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>>14322159
I love how G-Senjou didn't even make it into the popular new releases section. Practically every visual novel has no trouble getting there these days, but G-Senjou? Nowhere to be found. They really fucked up with this one.
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>>14322166

WEE ep1 was originally localized by Spicy Tail themselves. They sold through MangaGamer initially (MG was just the storefront, not the localizer on the title). Then Sekai acquired the rights.
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>>14322166
Spicy Tails put it out initially, but IIRC by the time it got on Steam Sekai Project was already involved.
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>>14321254
Is MG considering the G-Senjou model of releasing voiced and unvoiced versions? I usually play with the voices either off or low volume anyway.
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>>14322172
Ah, good, so it all went to the developer. Well, the cut that Steam didn't take, anyway. I'm satisfied with that.
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>>14322172
>WEE ep1 was originally localized by Spicy Tail themselves.
Well, kind of. It was localized by an MG translator at the time, but not under MG. Said translator was fired from MG and all his work thrown away, whereupon he went over to head up SP's 'license acquirement and translation' shit or whatever they called it.
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>>14322180
Sekai Project became the publisher when the game was on Greenlight, so they got a cut of all the Steam sales too.
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>>14321261

I could see it working for certain games (the type with firm route splits and without much of an overarching plot, like many moege or even a lot of otome), but it'd be pretty awful for anything that actually has a story.

>>14322178

We don't have plans to do anything like that right now. We do have a couple of games where there are voices (or more full voicing) owned by another entity that could hypothetically get the DLC treatment in the future if those voices/additional voices could be acquired later (but that's always a big if)––that's really the only sort of scenario I see that sort of arrangement happening.

Personally I don't like the idea of hacking VNs up piecemeal (unless there's some sort of natural break-point), but it's entirely possible that market demands will force that sort of model more in the future. No one on steam wants to pay more than single-digit prices for anything after all.
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>>14322238
When's Seinarukana coming out?
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>>14322253
That's from JAST so maybe summer 2016.

>>14322238
Whens Gahkthun coming out. Also, what are the next probable or expected Liarsoft titles? (if any)
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>>14322272
Jast obviously doesn't know.
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>>14322272
>Whens Gahkthun coming out. Also, what are the next probable or expected Liarsoft titles? (if any)

Soon™

Well, we got Yurirei. It's hard to say what would be next yet (even if I knew I couldn't tell you anyway).
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>>14322289
Different person, but any particular games you would LIKE to get? I don't expect any guarantees that you'll actually get them or anything, just wondering what you'd personally be interested in that's feasible.
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>>14322306
Gakuen Handsome
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>>14322310
Wow, purple guy. I can't even.
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I never understood why the sea creature metaphors in Nasu writing. Of all things, why that?
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>>14322554
It's probably a cultural thing, seeing how Japan is close to the sea in all directions. They likely have a lot more knowledge of maritime creatures compared to most of us.
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>>14322636
It would make sense (even though it sounds like something you just made up on the spot) but I've never seen any other Japanese writer do it. What's Nasu's deal?
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>>14321086
yeah no. if you want deep story VNs you won't get it
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Pretty pathetic to think that the Hatoful Boyfriend guy on his own is a better, faster, more accurate translator than the entirety of Sekai Project.
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what a madman
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>>14322875

Sugoi sugoi!
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>>14322875
Who would guess that translating porn scenes is faster than all-ages (i.e. no easy porn scenes) chuuni game.
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>>14322875
Too bad his work is gonna be wasted on a lowercase typing retard.
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How is Sekai Project not getting absolutely crucified for straight up lying and claiming they're making a game that's already made. Their fans are obsessed, sure, but shouldn't the information be getting out there and destroying them?
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>>14322910

It's still a massive amount of text. The pace he's working at is pretty insane.

>>14322930

Stockholm Syndrome?
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>>14322930
>Their fans are obsessed, sure, but shouldn't the information be getting out there and destroying them?
Their fans are con-going retards and get all their VN on steam. They don't know shit; they only know what Sekai tells them. Making games that are already made and translating things that are already translated. Nothing new here. Sekai has been shaping up to be the crunchyroll of VN. Their fans are equally fuck.
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>>14322930
No one cares enough about some Narcissu side stories to bother. No one is talking about it, and no one other than the 700 people who backed it (and probably back every one of their Kickstarters automatically) even pays attention to it.
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>>14322964
What's the issue with Crunchyroll exactly? At least they don't pretend they're making the anime, and most of their translations are better than fansubs.
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>>14322238
Not like I don't want to, I just don't have the money for it.
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>>14322964
>>14322968
Yeah, but a news site could report on it since they report on literally everything else SP does. Has not a single person sent this story to Kotaku or Polygon? They'd love an excuse to stir some shit up.
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>>14323021
> writing negative press about sekai
Not going to happen. Don't know how much dovac is paying to them, but press is simply ignoring all and every fault of SP.
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>>14321357
Link?
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>>14323030
This very thread has screenshot, you dumb fuck
>>14320960
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>>14323027
On the bright side he's apparently leaking money like a very leaky thing because of all these people he's throwing the cash at. This is not gonna last much longer. Another Kickstarter failure or two and he's donezo.
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>>14322968
I'd like to play the one set in the 70's!
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>>14322984
The same issue people really have with Sekai Project: They're popular and mainstream, and they cater to retards.
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>>14323067
We hate SP because they are scam company, running kickstarters with goals 3-10 times bigger than actually needed, re-releasing already translated games, hiring apes with zero knowledge of japanese as "translators", persuading japan companies to stop doing ero and so on.
Mainstream and retard catering is irrelevant. I would even support ripping off retards and bringing their money to industry if it wouldn't mean that I'm getting fucked along.
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>>14323099
How are you getting fucked if you just ignore Sekai altogether? It's not like they harm MG or JAST's output. The only argument you listed I can see would harm you would be
>persuading japan companies to stop doing ero
but do you really think Sekai has that kind of influence? Isn't the success all-ages VNs are getting on Steam (which isn't just Sekai Project) the more likely culprit?
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>>14320960
Isn't Herkz white, though?
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>>14323156
1. SP kickstarters making 500k+$ are bigger influence than steam.
2. Re. "which isn't just SP": other companies like MG and JAST don't try to influence yet not released games and when licensing existing stuff their stance is "lets do both versions". On other hand, SP is trying to make developers make new all-ages or easily bucherable into all-ages games, and they are telling devs that ero doesn't matter for western market and nobody wants it here.
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>>14323160
>but do you really think Sekai has that kind of influence? Isn't the success all-ages VNs are getting on Steam (which isn't just Sekai Project) the more likely culprit?
Although it's true that VNs sell more on Steam, by releasing both adult and all ages version you satisfy everyone and get even more sales. Imagine the following example: in 1000 people, 750 buy the all ages version and 250 only buy the adult version. Why wouldn't you release both versions and instead of getting 750 sales you get 1000 sales? There's literally nothing to lose. MG does exactly this and apparently SP and now FF (Fruitbat Factory - given their history, they'll only release a all ages version of LB) prefer to simply ignore those 250 (it's worth noting that SP either gives extremely low priority to the adult version or outright ignores it).

By only releasing a all ages version of a adult VN you're actively encouraging the japanese companies to censor their VNs without making a uncut version available. Not showing the japanese developer that there is interest on the adult version is the publisher fault (in case the publisher doesn't even try to get the adult version) and the consequences of this can be catastrophic for those of us who actually care for having sex (regardless of its meaning) on their VNs. This is what happens when people with no respect for the culture try to make things their way.
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>>14323099
>>14323049

So he both owns a scam company raking in far more money than needed through all the kickstarters, yet at the same time almost bankrupt. Gee, it's almost as though people on here don't have a clue what they're talking about.
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>>14323245
He wastes money on useless things. Like, he bought never-to-be-actually-created ship from Star Citizen for several thousand dollars. He spent hundreds of thousands dollars on various software licenses and development which ultimately turned out useless: certain CRM soft, kickstarter ripoff, translation soft and so on. He wasted tons of money on luxury office. He wasted tons of money on regular trips to Japan, accompanied by interpreter because he can't speak any japanese, he gifted tons of money to various jap developers hoping they would later let him license their games and so on and on.
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>>14323273
proof where?
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>>14323281>>14323284
Is this your first VNTS thread? Everything I've posted there was said by dovac himself on twitter/reddit/vndb and was reposted here. Do you also need proof that sun is yellow?
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>>14323286
so the proof is I didn't lurk enough?
ok I'll go now
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Spending thousands on star citizen ships:
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/373274174887706624
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/515380859168247810
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/528297265765421056


Kickstarter ripoff they developed out of KS money and never used:
https://crowdfunding.sekaiproject.com/

Gifting money to jap developers:
https://vndb.org/t6599#2
https://vndb.org/t6693.23
> My company spent over 4.5M JPY in assistance to various companies and creators in Japan in this year alone. Our loans have nothing attached to them so if they run away with the money I get to explain it to the board.

And on and on. Once again, this shit was posted here dozens of times, read archives if you are this new.
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>>14323298
>>14323286
I am not new. I know there is some truth in your statements, but /jp/ exaggerates more and more each time things are posted, and occasionally /jp/ simply makes up things completely. In this case...

>ship from Star Citizen for several thousand dollars.
Where does the 'several thousand' come from? I do indeed recall that someone Sekai-related tweeted something about a really expensive ship, but I don't think it said they actually bought that ship for that much real-life money (and I'm not sure if it was dovac saying it; I know that some people involved in Sekai have well-paid full-time jobs outside of Sekai).

>He spent hundreds of thousands dollars on various software licenses and development

>kickstarter ripoff
Did Sekai spend a lot of cash on it? It could very well have just been built in-house.

>certain CRM soft
>translation soft
They made their own, that much we know. Did they pay a lot for licenses for stuff they used before that? What did development of these things cost? We don't know.

>and so on.
>hundreds of thousands dollars
What else? Even if you fuck up tremendously and go for max expenditures, I doubt you'd reach such a sum for these three products (assuming you're not professionally producing it for resale).

>He wasted tons of money on luxury office.
They have a place they call their office, which we have exactly one picture of. We don't even know if it's a proper office, or if it's run out of someone's home. Assuming it's a 'luxury office' and he wasted 'tons of money' on it goes even further.

>He wasted tons of money on regular trips to Japan
Which is pretty normal if you're doing licensing. The CEO of the company I work for makes constant trips to the US. He just needs to be there for license negotiations.

>accompanied by interpreter because he can't speak any japanese
As in, a professional interpreter? Because those would be ridiculously expensive. I'm pretty sure he brings someone else from Sekai to interpret, otherwise negotiation costs would soon exceed the actual translation costs.

>he gifted tons of money to various jap developers hoping they would later let him license their games
One could argue loans are not gifts, but yeah, it gets pretty close to this. I don't mind them supporting developers.

Now for a particularly damning accusation:
>they developed out of KS money
What proof is there they did any of this out of KS money? When devs do unrelated shit out of KS money, you notice by them running out of money required to complete the project. Sekai does not seem to have run out of money for any KS project yet. What reason do you have to assume they did something as fraudulent as this? Remember they also get plenty of money from actual game sales.
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>>14323466
>Where does the 'several thousand' come from? I do indeed recall that someone Sekai-related tweeted something about a really expensive ship, but I don't think it said they actually bought that ship for that much real-life money (and I'm not sure if it was dovac saying it; I know that some people involved in Sekai have well-paid full-time jobs outside of Sekai).
I just posted links in post above. It was dovac, and it clearly says he owns EVERY ship in Star Citizen. Total cost here exceeds 10000$.
>It could very well have just been built in-house.
As if building kickstarter-like platform in-house now suddenly makes it cheap to do, huh. You should go check how much it costs to develop such large-scale e-commerce app from scratch.
>They made their own
Can't find that tweet series, but dovac once publicly grieved that insanely-overpriced solution he bought license for turned out completely useless and he was looking for other one to buy next. It certainly wasn't in-house or cheap.
>As in, a professional interpreter?
Yes, he mentioned he was hiring one.
>brings someone else from Sekai to interpret
Are you kidding? There's nobody on Sekai roster who can interpret japanese live. Their best is translating written text with dictionary.
> I don't mind them supporting developers.
Whether its good for industry or not, its very bad way to handle company funds, especially when company in such dire need of competent staff for all positions. Just having good project manager and good chief translator would improve quality and speed several times.
> you notice by them running out of money required to complete the project
And that's exactly why none of VN kickstarters shipped any physical rewards. He's stalling them by making up various excuses ("3rd translator ran away w/out doing any work and we too stupid no not notice it for months because why would we ever have weekly reviews and shared repository") while desperately trying to bring in fresh money via new kickstarters.
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>>14323466
>I'm pretty sure he brings someone else from Sekai to interpret
Ha!
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>>14323466
>What proof is there they did any of this out of KS money?
There's no other major money source. When he was running WEE kickstarter, he confessed on irc that he was taking many short-term loans to survive till kickstarter end, and he was deep in red. Obvious that kickstarter money went to repay loans and pay salary after that.
No reason to expect that his financial discipline improved since those times, and liabilities from WEE and other kickstarters are still there.
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>>14323298
If he helped fund Sumire why the fuck isn't he releasing it?
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>>14323678
"No strings attached". Devs took money but refused to provide license or anything at all in return.
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Meh, seems like I can't read dovac's timeline past Jul 17. Is there a way to download all his tweets?
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Btw, found this little gem regarding SP financial well-being, not enough funds to license cheap doujin game:
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/642137281306845184
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10800$ for support system license he didn't need.
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/612117086123393024
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>>14323612
>he confessed on irc that he was taking many short-term loans to survive till kickstarter end, and he was deep in red
I know he once said Sekai is in the red. Which is very normal, MangaGamer was also in the red for years. Being in the red as a company and being in the red as a person are completely different things. I never heard anything about him taking short-term loans to survive; can you provide a source for this?

>>14323704
I'm not sure if it's possible for other people to do so. Theoretically there is an option to download your own tweets, but it never worked for me.

>>14323706
He says 'not enough resources'. Which can mean any number of things; most likely in this case it was 'not enough translators/editors/QCers'.
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>>14323744
2014 Jul 03, #tlwiki:
dovac: TinFoil: too bad I'll be bankrupt in about 3 months
TinFoil: dovac: no income coming in? are you going to pull a startup pump and dump? :P
dovac: TinFoil: burn rate too high, blew though a year's funding during my last trip to Japan
dovac: but i'll be pivioting sooner or later
TinFoil: did you at least get a year's funding in future plans in return?
dovac: i have no idea
dovac: kickstarters tend to go overbudget
dovac: and late
dovac: so that is the biggest issue
TinFoil: sounds like a small business living life on the edge to me!
herkz: well apparently people on kickstarter will give him a lot of money
dovac: doesn't mean its all mine
herkz: same difference
herkz: you can afford to license bigger titles
dovac: we can revisit this tomorrow after 5pm
herkz: or even if they cost the same, pay translators a decent wage
herkz: lol
dovac: i need to finish the fault demo
witchcapture: dovac, is your company VC funded or boostrapped?
dovac: no one else does though
dovac: witchcapture: bootstrapped
witchcapture: cool, well done
dovac: i've self funded it entirely
dovac: i only recent started to take loans from friends/family
dovac: to cover the shortfall for the next few months
dovac: also
dovac: why would VC fund this
dovac: the market isn't big enough to have 3 players imo
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>>14323760
>dovac: TinFoil: burn rate too high, blew though a year's funding during my last trip to Japan
This is pretty much everything one needs to know about dovac and SP.
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>>14323768
Japanese girls are expensive, bro.
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>>14323768
You might be misunderstanding. He might be talking about acquiring new licenses, establishing new business contacts, investing in future deals, and so on. What are you going to do if opportunity knocks on your door, let is pass?
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>>14323284
Check vndb. dovac said he gave NekoNeko Soft $40,000, because bribery for licenses like Scarlett is how he's planning on "saving" the vn industry.
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>>14323819
I'd rather see a proper translation for Mizuiro and Giniro
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I think it's funny that Sekai keeps plugging the Narcissu kickstarter when just about all of the updates are about their current projects being delayed in some way.
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I submitted a few tips to kotaku and polygon to raise awareness of sekai's business practices. I suggest others to do the same. They need to be stopped at all costs.
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>>14324223
Remember that people who call Sekai out over their obvious mishandling of things aren't their audience.
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>>14324223
Those sites are just as cancerous as Sekai, though.
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>>14324223
>They need to be stopped at all costs.
If it's 'at all costs', wouldn't it be much easier and faster to just murder dovac and threaten that anybody that continues to be involved with Sekai will meet the same fate? I'm fairly sure that would make Sekai go out of business real fast.
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is aokana a machine tl?
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>>14324242
One, that would be illegal and immoral.

Two, anons here are too cheap and lazy to go to that much effort.
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>>14324242
This. Step up your game, anon, sending emails is not "at all costs".
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>>14324257
>sending emails is not "at all costs".
It is in the age of the internet.

This is also why SJWs have it too easy nowadays. Back in the day, people actually had to protest march and had fire hoses sprayed at them and police brutality. You actually had to show conviction in what you believed in.
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>>14324249
Everything is machine translated unless it's approved by Moogy or released by MangaGamer.
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>>14324273
It's not just SJWs. The people here are no different. They're making themselves feel good by protesting against the evil Sekai Corp. They're making a change, the heroes! It also happens with other fanbases, video games are an example I know of. But it happens everywhere.

Humans are just made to fight for a common goal, and our culture only reinforces that need for unity. So when people can fight for a common goal with barely any effort, of course they'll jump on the opportunity.
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>>14323273

Yeah, you really don't have a clue.

Everybody wastes money on useless things, he's allowed to spend money on things he enjoys there's no evidence he used KS money and he could have bought most of them back when he had money in his account, your software allegation is unsupported and most likely hyperbole, you have no proof he wasted money on a luxury office remembering a luxury office is different to having a luxurious item in his office, the money he spend in Japan were most likely business transactions and negotiations, and finally the money he 'gifted' to Japanese companies weren't 'gifts' but rather 'loans.'

You are pretty much the typical 4chan user, that is you have no clue. Pity, this used to be a rather decent place.
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>>14324273

Remember when Gamergate was 'sticking it to the man' by doing nothing more than sending emails? Every week another email campaign. Fast forward many months later... nothing's changed. What a surprise.
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>>14324413
>Pity, this used to be a rather decent place
dovac's shill trying hard to fit in, what an amusing show.
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Has MG said if Euphoria is gonna have any content cut?
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>>14324466

Your eyelids still glued closed by cum. What an amusing show.
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>>14324438
It's because secretly it's not about change. It's about <furigana="doing nothing">making a change</furigana>. The process is what makes people feel good, not the result.
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>>14324413
dovac said the money he gave to the devs had no-strings attached and that they could even never repay him. Remember his comment about having to explain it to his board of directors if that happened?
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>>14324413
>the money he spend in Japan were most likely business transactions and negotiations, and finally the money he 'gifted' to Japanese companies weren't 'gifts' but rather 'loans.'

Yes, taking the CEOs to the kyabakura and paying for moet and hookers... what a great investment
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>>14324503

A loan in good-faith. Them not repaying him would be the same as a loan written off, but it was still a loan under a gentleman's agreement of repayment. It's more that he's too good-hearted than he's out to scam people.

But yeah, business is a cut-throat environment. He's probably learned a couple of lessons in what's been a turbulent couple of years. Remembering that the vast majority of small businesses close inside the first year or two, he's done fairly well.
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>>14324513

Someone who doesn't know how business is done in Japan. Do everybody a favour and shove a dick in your ignorant mouth. Your continuous high-pitched, retarded whining is irritating.
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>>14323245
You're pretty dumb if you don't understand how both of those things could be the case. Regardless of whether or not they actually are.
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>>14324513
A vn youtuber I watch who's friends with some evn devs said that dovac (at least used to) have verbal agreements on publishing their games. This could lead to problems down the road depending on how much the other party really took those verbal agreements seriously.
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>>14324506

Congratulations. You're fucking retarded. Do not grab $200, rather jump off the nearest cliff.
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>>14324477
Why would they?
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>>14324523

You're pretty retarded if you don't understand how running a scam company and raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars for personal investment will unlikely result in him being bankrupt inside of a year due to business expenditure.
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>>14324527

Yeah, he's less professional but nicer. He seems to have entered the business world a little naive. /jp/ jumps down his throat because the board is populated by bitchy little attention-seeking cocksuckers. They demand people pay attention to them, and if they don't they chuck a fucking tantrum like a bunch of fucking kids.
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>>14324513
>A loan in good-faith.
>gentleman's agreement
These are concepts that don't have a place in modern business transactions and for good reason. The honor people sought to protect is at an all-time low. And forget gratitude.

They probably happily took dovac's money and have no intention of licensing anything to him.
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>>14324513
Didn't Sekai only become an official business in 2014? That means that 2016-2017 will be its defining years.
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>>14324552

Yep. He's too nice, it seems. He's going to get taken advantage of, business and 'nice' don't go together.
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>>14324547
I bet you're that guy from who was like "MangaGamer is horrible! Stop accusing me of being a Sekai Project employee, shills!"

Fuck you.
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>>14324538
Lottery winners can blow millions of dollars in several years or less. If dovac is super bad at managing money, then it's super easy to burn through a few hundred thousand dollars.
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>>14324583

Lottery winners who blow millions have some visible form of their stupidity. A new boat. A mansion. A harem. So why don't you show us where Dovac has blown his hundreds of thousands.
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>>14323201

I wonder how much the PM version of eden* sold compared to the steam version.
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>>14324575

Going with assumptions now. You're that desperate for something to say? Shut up retard, and keep it shut until you have something to fucking say.
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>>14323903
Just wondering, has Sekai Project ever actually revealed the identities of any of their translators? Or have any of them stepped forward to reveal themselves? I find it so weird that they say "the translator who did this is also doing this" without saying their name.

Also, do you think the "right now" implies that Narcissu will eventually not be free?
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>>14324594
Star Citizen isn't out yet. The fortune he gave to Japanese devs is gone. I can't take a picture of the 5 star hotels he stays at, gourmet room service he orders, and first class plane tickets he buys on a regular basis.
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>>14324604
Well, it's not an assumption anymore. That response has thoroughly convinced me you are him. So suck my dick and fuck right off, you little bitch.
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>>14324612

A few thousand on Star Citizen, is that all you have to go with? Oh, that and an unbacked assertion about his Japanese loans?

Wining and dining is necessary in the Japanese business world. In other words, it's a business expense. Any knowledge of Japanese culture will tell you this. First class tickets are cheap. Where are the hundreds of thousands of dollars?

I think so far you've attributed to 10. Impressive.
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>>14324594
Just because dovac doesn't tweet about those things doesn't mean he doesn't have all that and more.
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>>14324613

An assumption, and a strawman. Basically because you're too retarded for anything else. Jam your mouth back on your Daddy's dick like a little bitch, you imbred, motherfucker. Jam it on there, because your father is probably sick of fucking the donkey in the barn that's your mother.
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>>14324605
I think they just meant that it's available now, as opposed to TBA like so many of their projects are.

At the current average of $65 per backer, Narcissu still needs 400 more backers to succeed.
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>>14324625
You're gay and dumb.
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>>14324633
That would make sense. Not the first time Dovac's sucked at wording.

Well, I hope the company continues to fall apart, but in the meantime I look forward to pirating this Atom Grrl thing when it's out. Never knew how much I wanted to play a game set in my hometown.
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Hey, new board for posting about Sekai Project.
>>>/trash/
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>>14324527
Verbal agreements are still legally binding, just hard to enforce.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_contract

If either party has, for example, e-mails to prove certain things were agreed on verbally, then these can be enforced through legal action if necessary.

>>14324604
>>14324613
>>14324625
>>14324635
Children, please go back to >>>/b/.
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fuck off dovac.
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>>14324756
>Verbal agreements are still legally binding, just hard to enforce.
Also are easy to abuse and can get you into hot water .
See the whole FIFA Blatter contract mess.
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>>14324756
Verbal agreements, even in email form likely won't have all the details worked out. How long is the partnership? If the dev decides to self-publish (Winged Cloud) does the former publisher not get a cent of money once the switch occurs?
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>>14324413
>He can waste money however he wants and nobody's allowed to call him retarded for crying poverty.
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>>14324413
>Pity, this used to be a rather decent place.
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Anybody from MG want to comment on this?

http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/12157-sukimazakura-to-uso-no-machi-translation-project-partial-patch-i-released/

Is he going to be left alone to do his own thing or will you guys try to get him to work with MG after one of your other propeller works are released?
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>>14325406
I doubt they can say anything about it, but that game does not seem like it would be a very high priority for MangaGamer anyway. Looks cool though.
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>>14325406
>I'm not doing this project for anything other than my own benefit and experience with the language. As such, if I ever get to a point where I feel that negative criticism (as opposed to constructive criticism) or outright negativity is interfering with my ability to enjoy what I'm doing, then I may just abandon publicly releasing the project altogether. So my point is to just avoid being a jerk and everything'll be fine. I know people will inevitably complain and nitpick, but keep it limited to the normal places (you know what I'm talking about) and I'll have no issue. Basically, unless you have something meaningful to say, please don't say anything at all. I'd prefer having one appreciative soul enjoy my work than for 10,000 complainers to do the same.

Doesn't sound like someone to bother recruiting. Criticism=them holding back fanpatch.
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>>14325462
Oh, so it's Ixrec.
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>>14325406
No.
>I'm still learning the language. Take that however you please. However, with that said, I feel that nothing of importance was lost in translation and the English reads perfectly fine. Do you have any trouble reading what I've typed so far? Good, then you won't have any trouble reading this VN. Perhaps if you're a 100% literal person or someone who doesn't like for things to be localized to the receiving audience (especially jokes), then you won't like this project.
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>>14325406
If MG wanted money they would have chosen this title.
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>>14325462
>>14325406
Well, sounds like we're free to rip it apart on /jp/.

>5.) If I notice any mistakes, can I contact you about them?
>
>Yes! That's the whole point of me starting this. As long as you're not super condescending or acting as though I've done a grave sin by trying to make a VN accessible to people who, in all likelihood, would never have had any chance at all of reading it otherwise, then by all means! A lot of the jokes were completely lost on me, so I'd totally appreciate any help you can give me! Or just any pointers in general. You can reach me at [email protected].

Personally, I feel this is a good attitude to take. So can someone point out some basic mistakes in the translation so we know how bad it is?
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>>14325478
To be fair, his English is pretty good, at least.
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>>14325480
Eh? It just looks like some forgettable moege. Why bother when it's the chuunige that will sell?
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>>14325532
>Personally, I feel this is a good attitude to take.

>No matter what kind of mistakes I make or how unqualified I am, you better be respectful to me.

Yeah, that's a great attitude.
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>>14325551
I was talking about the 'tell me about my mistakes' part, not the 'no bitching in my thread' part. The latter is unfortunately the standard on Fuwa.
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>>14325532
Sounds like someone is scared of getting his feelings hurt when someone points out that editing Atlas output is a bad way to translate.

Missing jokes is a good indication that he hasn't spent enough time with the language to be qualified to say whether anything of importance was lost in translation.
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>>14325536
Have fun reading his fanfiction.
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>>14325406
>the English reads perfectly fine.

>>14325536
>his English is pretty good

And yet, the screencaps he posted are the standard almost-English Fuwanovel always produces.
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>>14325557
Even Ixrec encouraged people to tell him about his mistakes, but when people found a ton of them he freaked out.
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>>14325532
>trying to make a VN accessible to people who, in all likelihood, would never have had any chance at all of reading it otherwise
He's using this shit as justification to release a translation with no regards for quality. True VN fan here man.
Fuck the author, fuck the developer and fuck the respect the VN deserves.
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>>14325567
Nothing important was lost.

But he's sure he missed a lot of jokes.

So he thinks that he missed nothing, but she's sure that he missed things.

Cognitive dissonance is a wonderful thing.
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>>14325580
As long as the story he tells matches the pictures he's sure it's close enough.
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>>14325557
Bitching in general doesn't really solve any problems.
He's doing this out of his own volition for himself, but felt like sharing it to the community.
He didnt announce it as a "Translation Project" in the translation projects sections since its not specifically created for fan TL readers.
We can treat it as a project that doesn't even exist.
If people do help him and point out mistakes, it could result in a really good product.
He's not looking for any professional position, which is why he continued to do this alone, without contacting MG. So we shouldn't judge him as if hes getting paid since any incompetence is just because he's not skilled enough yet, which is why he's working on this as practice.
If we point out all his mistakes and he takes it very well, and uses it constructively, then thats good. But everybody takes a negative attitude and start bitching at him for everything, then nobody wins.

If MG decides to pick this up and release it before he finishes, he'll probably still continue for his own sake.
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>>14325574
He has no editor. He joined the army which implies he didnt get college+ education or was not really fond of highschool - level education. You can't expect his writing to be exemplary. If he takes in an editor or stylistic writer into his team, it'll probably be a lot better.
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>>14325623
Remind me how that worked out for Koirizo.
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>>14325610
He admitted that he's still learning the language, which means he shouldn't be trying to translate yet, since he's not to that level of literacy.
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>>14325610
Learning Japanese by "practicing" translating never works out well. Look at Ixrec. You just end up convinced that your own wrong interpretations are correct, rather than reading as much as you can to gain familiarity with the language.

Learn Japanese first, then translate. Never the other way around.
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>>14325568
There's nothing wrong with reading fanfiction if it's good.
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>>14325629
Pretty decently, as I remember. There weren't any real problems with that translation.
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>>14325678
You don't remember right at all. The translation was about 50% wrong. Someone posted a segment, daring people to find errors. Two of the first three lines in it were completely wrong.
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>>14325462
Someone should register there and tell him that he sucks and should kill himself. Seems like easy project to disrupt.
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>>14325687
That was from a really early beta patch.
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>>14325721
Of course it was.
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>>14325722
Thank you for agreeing. Nice to see people on this site with some sense.
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>>14325687
No one ever did the work to substantiate that.
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>>14325754
>This translation is good. Here's an example showing it's good.
>Your example is full of basic errors. Here are a number of them and why they're wrong.
>YOU'VE NEVER SHOWN IT'S BAD

Ti9 pls
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>>14325763
Accusing every person of being Ti9 just because they rightfully point out that you're full of shit is boring and immature.
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>>14325774
Bitch to someone who's wrong.
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>>14325721
That's true. They never got rid of the bad translators or found good ones, and they never redid the old work, but IT'S TOTALLY FINE NOW GUYS.
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Now only if he kills himself we win.
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>>14325782
Done.
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>>14325799
How many months before he comes back to Twitter this time?
>>
So I grabbed some lines from the Sukimazakura translation (I think the opening lines? Haven't started playing it yet) and the original game using a hex editor.

【優真】「桜の……国?」
【Yuma】「A Cherry Blossom Country...?」
【咲良】「…………」
【Sakura】「…………」
いや。違う、これは。
No, that's not quite right.
【優真】「国というよりは<都会,まち>……か」
【Yuma】「More like a city than a country.」
都会。
A city.
それは、桜の都会だった。
That is, a Cherry Blossom City.
【咲良】「…………」
【Sakura】「…………」
【咲良】「ね、ねぇ、兄さん、これなに?」
【Sakura】「Hey, hey, brother. What is this place?」
【優真】「なんだろうな」
【Yuma】「That's a good question.」
【咲良】「夢、じゃないわよね……」
【Sakura】「This...isn't a dream, right?」
空を見上げれば、とんでもない花曇り。
When I look up, the sky is completely covered in a spring haze.
そう、花で、曇っている。空を桜の花が覆っているのだ。
Indeed, covered in a cloud of flowers. The sky is being obscured by a cherry blossom tree.
【優真】「ほっぺたでもつねってみたらどうだ?」
【Yuma】「How about you pinch your cheeks to check?」

Please shit over it and tell us how bad it is.
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>>14325799
How many times does this make?
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>>14325799
This is the fourth or fifth time he's supposedly abandoned Twitter forever.
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>>14325799
More confirmation he comes here even though he pretends not to, considering that's a reaction to >>14323298 and the related discussion.

I suspect he's even the guy that kept arguing in posts like >>14324413. Look, the time of the tweets even matches.
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>>14325806
>Hey, hey, brother.

HULK HOGAN CONFIRMED
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>>14325806
Well, for a strat, he's literally translated 国 as country when that's obviously incorrect, so he's just using the first definition on the dictionary entry. He maintains Japanese sentence structure, which is imbecilic and also grammatically fucked up in English. And has mistranslated 桜の花 as cherry blossom tree.

So that's a great start.
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>>14325818
Dovac has been coming to /jp/ to talk shit forever. It's one of his favorite ways to stroke his ego and generate drama centered around himself.

He just does it anonymously now, since he kept putting his foot in his mouth.
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>>14325824
I don't see how country is incorrect in that context.
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>>14325818
It could be Dovac, or just another Sekai Project employee. They do go and obnoxiously shill everywhere for SP anywhere VNs are discussed.
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>>14325799
What does FUD stand for? I don't understand these obscure idiot acronyms.

Also I like how his pinned tweet is extremely appropriate despite being from months ago.
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>>14325914
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

Learn to use Google to solve these problems on your own.
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>>14325914
"Obscure." Maybe to those unfamiliar with the English language.
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>>14325926
>>14325933
Why would I know something like this? Why is something so stupid even an acronym? I'm not going to google something an idiot says. There was no need to make an acronym of that in the first place.
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>>14325995
Bitch, it's been a term for longer than you've been alive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
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>>14325995
>Why would I know something like this?
Because it's a commonly used acronym in English? Dovac is a moron, but you're giving him a run for his money right now.
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>>14325799
> this will be my last post on twitter
... he said for fifth time.
I bet he will not last even 2 months this time.
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>>14325995
It's better to fix your ignorance than get outraged at a common use of the language.
>>
To be fair, he's not even using FUD particularly well. SP, and he, have provided numerous legitimate problems and inconsistencies in what he says and what he does. Accusing their problems and fuckups of being FUD instead of addressing them shows that their strategy for 'fixing' them is to continue to accuse everyone who has a problem with anything they do of being haters.
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>>14322984
>and most of their translations are better than fansubs.
hahahahahahahahaha
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>>14325824
Strangely enough, it doesn't seem wrong. There is actually a giant cherry blossom tree which they refer to as 桜の花. Can someone who actually knows Japanese comment on this?
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>>14326071
We can add inability to keep tense consistent to his list of sins.
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>>14326071
桜の花 is just the blossoms.
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>>14326009
>Dovac
>having money

Good one!
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>>14326095
But they already noticed the petals, then they noticed there was a huge tree covering the city. And Sakura clearly said '桜の花' in that line.
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>>14326052
Truth. This is just yet another one of Dovac's "haters gonna hate" whines and not an appropriate time to be complaining about FUD.

By the way, ever noticed that Herkz does the same fucking thing as Dovac? Why are such shitty people also such prominent names in this community?
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>>14326119
You need to brush up on your idioms as well as your acronyms.
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>>14326132
It's weird that you're trying to say what's written in Japanese is wrong.
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>>14325806
It's probably a better translation than this meh game deserves.

"is being obscured" is bad writing 101, but I guess a proper editor would fix that.

国 as Country, and 桜の花 as cherry blossom tree depend on the context, but I'd normally translate the former as land or kingdom, or maybe some other a little bit more poetic word depending on the context.

No real translation errors otherwise.
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>>14326053
He's not wrong, though it's not like your pathetic excuse for a point qualifies as a counterargument. Fansubbers are all a bunch of idiots who throw memes in their translations and get overly liberal just because they think they're funnier than the original writer (not unlike how NIS America does things, which is why they're so shit). Crunchyroll translations are faithful without being stilted.
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>>14326132
桜の花 can be a fancy/poetic, somewhat feminine way to refer to a sakura tree. The guy who pointed out that it's "absolutely wrong" likely only has rudimentary Japanese skills.
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>>14326173
So the people criticizing translations in this thread are complete amateurs. Not surprising.
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>>14326173
You believe that this 'translator' who is just learning the language, admits that he doesn't understand most jokes in Japanese, and lacks even a high school level of English writing ability, but is nevertheless translating using poetic metaphor.

Speaking of cognitive dissonance...

>>14326189
Please don't samefag so obviously.
>>
>>14326195
Please don't fag so obviously.
>>
Another patch attempt by someone who by his own admittance has no bussiness translating anything.

Another patch showcase full of mistakes.

Another shitty argument about it.

And in the future another translation attempt that will stop incomplete.

That's the VNTS life.
>>
>>14326243
Oh no. A non-translation for a terrible game by someone unqualified might not be finished.
>>
>>14326053
Fansubs are dead. Crunchyroll wins by default.
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>>14326287
Fansubs aren't dead as long as Herkz keeps keeping them alive.

Man, I can't even type that with a straight face.
>>
>>14326299
But herkz and people like him are not making own fantranslations, they just add memes here and there to crunchyroll subs. I think its unfair to true fansubbers to call these freaks fansubbers.
>>
>>14326282
SukimaZakura isn't terrible. Also I'm not lamenting it.
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>>14326151
>Fansubbers are all a bunch of idiots who throw memes in their translations and get overly liberal just because they think they're funnier than the original writer
That is just commie for the most part. Also the "professionals" like Funimation can be just as bad with adding memes as well.

>>14326299
>Herkz keeps keeping them alive
Considering most fansubs are just edits of the official translations, they are fairly close to being dead.
>>
>>14326324
You know what I'm lamenting? That so few people have played the masterpiece that is Lamento. It's even got a good translation and everything.
>>
>>14326349
>That so few people have played the masterpiece that is Lamento.
>Yaoi
>Anal Sex
>Uke Protagonist
>Yaoi Rape
Might be a reason for that.
>>
>>14326325
This discussion isn't about Funimation, I know they suck and it annoys me because Crunchyroll is good but Funimation makes official translations look bad.

And the meme subs are everywhere, look at FFF or UTW. Plus the ones who aren't meme subbers like Vivid literally just paste the official translation onto a different encode and call it a day.
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>>14326364
>Crunchyroll is good
They're literally made up of random ex-fansubbers, some of whom are horrendous. Do we need to bring up the airport incident from a few weeks ago?
>>
>>14326361
Yes, it's understandable. But man, that shit is like the holy grail of yaoi. Once you have consumed its wonder you will want nothing else.
>>
>>14326349
Never heard of it, and this >>14326361 is why.
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>>14326364
>This discussion isn't about Funimation
Is still worth bringing up since they get around half the shows a season now.

>>14326369
Rather have then over Funimation any day. Not like the fansub scene is going to pick up any time soon after all.
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>>14326369
The "airport incident" was from something they did last year, and it's common knowledge that they fired that translator. Unlike Funi, Crunchyroll doesn't hold back. If you deliver shit, you're out. Amusingly, I've heard Herkz applied for Crunchyroll but failed their test.
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>>14326379
The existence of something worse doesn't elevate anything else.
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>>14326379
I suppose, which is annoying. Their bullshit is exactly the reason why people have no faith in official work. They need to learn that Funi is not representative of all translations.
>>
>>14326383
Well the whole discussion here is about how fansubs are much worse than Crunchyroll's translations, so way to miss the point.
>>
>>14326383
It doesn't, but when there is nothing else to go with other than commie and FFF (who will fall behind as usual) as alternatives then what would you suggest? Well other than improve on your Japanese and watch it raw that is.
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>>14326400
You'll notice that Funimation has no part in that, dumbfuck.
>>
>>14326373
>Never heard of Nitroplus' best selling game

Even if you don't care about yaoi this is inexcusable.
>>
>>14326400
Yes, they're better than fansubs, which is exactly the thing that they're made of, except when they suck, which is frequently.

Convincing.
>>
>>14326403
I don't understand why FFF keeps picking up shows when they clearly hate fansubbing.
>>
>>14326409
"Hurr they're former fansubbers so they're still fansubbers" is a ridiculously stupid thing to say. No, idiot, they're people that got a job because they take their work seriously. Like MangaGamer, which is why MG's work is of consistently better quality than fan translations. Also you've sure provided tons of great examples to support your point.
>>
You know how you can tell Herkz is unqualified to be an editor? He loves Heartcatch Precure, an absolutely awful show and easily the worst Precure. This man doesn't know shit about anything, especially not editing.
>>
This is the second thread in a row of people jacking off in an outrage over fucking herkz. Why do you guys give a shit about that attention whore? He's probably creaming himself over all this goddamn attention.

How bout instead of posting about him when there's nothing to gain and the only thing that will happen is that he'll snap your post and shit upon it from his twitter perch, resulting in him making ya'll even more angry, you instead just don't talk about the faggot? Save that outrage for posting stuff that's actually seriously damaging to him, like that frontwing bitching of his. Especially since you can bet your ass he's too much of an egomaniac not to make more fuckups like that.
>>
>>14326446
I've heard that if you masturbate too much, you die, so I am trying to kill him.
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>>14326422
Aside from all the times when they fucked things up.

Which happen literally all the time.
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>>14326465
"It happened because it did" - You
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>>14325799
Oh nice he left his email. I signed him up for some gay porn, escort services, and to some racist mailing lists. Flooding his email box is going to be so fun.
>>
>>14326473
Did you actually do that? Because I had a similar idea. Like next time I see someone ask for moot's email on /qa/, I'll give them Dovac's. Stuff like that.
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>>14326473
He'll likely just close the account and open a new one.
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>>14326195
Considering the metaphor translation fits far, far better than your translation, which makes no sense in context...I'd say, yes, he seems to have translated that line well.
>>
>>14326527
You think that when it says there is a cloud of petals, it's supposed to say a cloud of tree.

Are you even trying to convincingly shitpost anymore or just going through the motions?
>>
>>14326468
>It never happens and when it does, it doesn't count, because I said so.
>>
>>14326585
>そう、花で、曇っている。空を桜の花が覆っているのだ。
>Indeed, covered in a cloud of flowers. The sky is being obscured by a cherry blossom tree.

>そう、花で、曇っている。
>Indeed, covered in a cloud of flowers.
>空を桜の花が覆っているのだ。
>The sky is being obscured by a cherry blossom tree.
>桜の花
>cherry blossom tree

Stop being retarded. I know you're shitposting, but people are going to be parroting this for several threads as "proof" the translation is bad.
>>
>>14326664
>英語では桜の花のことをCherry blossomと呼ぶのが一般的
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>>14326518
That's okay, the damage will already be done and people won't be able to contact him.
>>
>>14326590
YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING ANY FUCKING EXAMPLES, RETARD.
>>
>>14326446

Because the thread is full of kids in the middle of a perpetual tantrum.
>>
>>14326664
The translation is bad.
>>
>>14326372
In other words, it turns you gay?
>>
>>14326372
>Lamento
>the holy grail of yaoi

Yeah, no. Get some better taste.
>>
>>14327116
What's the best then, literal faglord?
>>
>>14327227
Hadaka Shitsuji.
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>>14327227

I think that's a dumb question but there are plenty of other BL games that are arguably better than Lamento like Shingakkou or BaraKi or hell even Sweet Pool
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