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Visual Novels 2016-05-01 21:53:18 Post No.15155447
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Visual Novels Anonymous 2016-05-01 21:53:18 Post No. 15155447 [Report] [View this topic]

so, /jp/, it's been a while since I've looked for any visual novels. Which ones are shit, and which ones should I look into getting?
Also general VN thread, I guess.

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Anonymous 2016-05-01 22:03:24 Post No.15155488
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I'm going to be without Internet for awhile. I'm looking for something that extracts and then shows definitions and/or furigana. Is there a hooking dictionary that doesn't use Internet? Is that what ATLUS is for? Like AGTH+translation aggregator+ATLUS is what I want?

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>>15155488
>I'm going to be without Internet for awhile
Why?

Anonymous 2016-05-01 22:06:03 Post No.15155503
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>>15155488
Yeah, pretty much. ATLUS/whatever your dictionary of choice with a text hooker and Translation Aggregator should do the trick.

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2016-04-29 17:50:46 Post No.15144378
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Anonymous 2016-04-29 17:50:46 Post No. 15144378 [Report] [View this topic]

Dead!

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not dead

Anonymous 2016-04-30 15:16:19 Post No.15148200
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lol is this undertale hehehe!!

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Anonymous 2016-04-30 16:18:27 Post No.15148483 [Report]

no more dying DEAD

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Anonymous 2016-04-25 05:08:25 Post No. 15125190 [Report] [View this topic]

What are your thoughts on the Doctor, /jp/?

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Anonymous 2016-04-25 05:10:55 Post No.15125198
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Symmetric granny!

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>>15125190
>What are your thoughts on the Doctor, /jp/?

Vaa vaa voom! Also I wish I was the dude in the pic. I would take such a deep breath.

Anonymous 2016-04-25 05:22:48 Post No.15125242
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She's not really my type. Good source of fun drugs, though.

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BABYMETAL & SAKURA GAKUIN GENERAL #213: WHY NOT BOTH? EDITION 2016-05-10 21:28:30 Post No.15211218
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BABYMETAL & SAKURA GAKUIN GENERAL #213: WHY NOT BOTH? EDITION Anonymous 2016-05-10 21:28:30 Post No. 15211218 [Report] [View this topic]

alone in a hotel room with moimoi subedition

>FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/CCWYjhyG

>BABYMETAL WORLD TOUR 2016:
US (May 10, 11, 13, 14)
CH (Jun 2)
AT (Jun 3)
NL (Jun 5)
DE (Jun 7, 8)
UK (Jun 10)
FR (Jun 11)
US (Jul 12, 14, 15, 17)
JP (Jul 24, Aug 6, 7, 12, 13, 14, 21)
Tokyo Dome (Sep 19)

>SAKURA GAKUIN:
Transfer-in Orientation (Jun 19)

>NEW VIDEOS:
BM: https://youtu.be/r6UZFkrv9-E & https://youtu.be/X-KZkcKTLf0 & https://youtu.be/Sj88dysX9jE & https://youtu.be/sw_PhuwzwWY & https://youtu.be/jTkbL-6nkqw & http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x47xzu0
SG: https://youtu.be/uUPO1MYr2RI & http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48cu98 & http://www.dailymotion.com/video/kfae31c1hdROaOgMpTJ & http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x496wi1 & http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wj4o1
NoS: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x45afgf & https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x42butc
Grads: https://youtu.be/Z-asfMte17s & https://youtu.be/fVE7saPlMOA & https://youtu.be/VVELgcxiF2c

>EVERY WEEK:
Sakura Gakuin (Mon 19:00 JST)
https://logirl.favclip.com/p/live

Night of Spica (check schedule: stolabo-tokyo.com)
http://twitcasting.tv/stolabo_tokyo

>MERCHANDISE:
asmart.jp/sakuragakuin
asmart.jp/babymetal
asmart.jp/muto_ayami
http://babymetal.tmstor.es/
http://babymetal.gomerch.com/
http://www.mflstores.com/mfl/babymetal.html/

>THE SPREADSHEET:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1inuuituVibgwZPWlmyll4Q3jLEGQye9PcsGiPZHTU0Y

>Previously on /bmsg/: >>15201971

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Anonymous 2016-05-10 21:30:17 Post No.15211231
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First

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>>15211218
Approved.

~~My current favorite Marina picture btw~~

Anonymous 2016-05-10 21:31:09 Post No.15211240
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>>15211218
>pic
You dumb cunt.

Anonymous
2016-05-10 20:34:01 Post No.15210942
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Anonymous 2016-05-10 20:34:01 Post No. 15210942 [Report] [View this topic]

You've got a lot of guts talking down to me like that mister~

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Anonymous 2016-05-10 20:53:56 Post No.15211033
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Help the boatsluts are leaking from their thread again

Anonymous 2016-05-10 21:08:43 Post No.15211105
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Anonymous 2016-05-10 21:08:43 Post No.15211105 [Report]

Cute as fuck.

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>>15210942
Not really, you were all designed by your corporation to be cock slaves of shitty otaku, so.

Anonymous
2016-05-10 16:27:49 Post No.15209965
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Anonymous 2016-05-10 16:27:49 Post No. 15209965 [Report] [View this topic]

Tenshi eati- wait what happened!?

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Anonymous 2016-05-10 16:48:48 Post No.15210020
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>>15209965
She lost her colours.

Anonymous 2016-05-10 17:09:56 Post No.15210084
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>>15209965
Her corndog accidentally fell to the ground like an ice cream cone.

Anonymous 2016-05-10 18:55:10 Post No.15210514
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Someone ate her peaches.

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AKB General 578 2016-05-10 15:14:54 Post No.15209637
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AKB General 578 Anonymous 2016-05-10 15:14:54 Post No. 15209637 [Report] [View this topic]

Previous thread: >>15204720

All AKB sub-groups and related *48/*46 groups welcome.
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/y0xcf3Pt

>News
(05/25) Nogizaka46 2nd Album (Sorezore no Isu).
(06/01) AKB48 44th Single (Tsubasa wa Iranai). Mukaichi Mion center.
(06/10-12) Nogizaka46 2nd 46-hour TV stream.
(06/15-08/30) Nogizaka46 Midsummer Nationwide Tour.
(06/18) AKB48 45th Single Selection General Election to be held in Niigata: http://sousenkyo.akb48.co.jp/
(07/08) Documentary of AKB48.
(07/11-08/15) HKT48 Midsummer Hall Tour.

>Useful Links
LODs and Live Shows: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JnKp_AEeGUNTNePfY3C3AO4veiVi7frza82lRo44ejQ
48/46 Group Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1HFVF5iQBgvjDrPnmwfbq0Iz6VvaOmDep0C2x8yoMo
AKB48 Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dUAcADxd9BOvJGXXQdPTZ6L7co5N2GhWFiTnpFz68qk
HKT48 Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13WO-YcaJkph2yu75SwCjEu5DCMC50mZhccureCnwQQA
Nogizaka46 Masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17eKIpPGgBA1YUV5bI3yyKyQYcW9hqM9iLaFZcZP3mLA
AKB H/S: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oATy7ZX78NxKUr3WVNbg4eZ8sfKDZKCpBT61p0RAsrA
Nogizaka H/S: http://ameblo.jp/seto-kasumi/

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Anonymous 2016-05-10 15:16:53 Post No.15209647
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I really do love Nyanyase after all

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Daily Forehead

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Happy Birthday Kurenyan!

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Anonymous 2016-05-10 02:43:25 Post No. 15207409 [Report] [View this topic]

リアルふたば

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Anonymous 2016-05-10 03:41:30 Post No.15207608
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Thanks for reminding me I don't speak moon.

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>>15207409
Don't tell me that Japan is having "slutwalks" too...

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Anonymous 2016-05-10 05:03:03 Post No.15207899 [Report]

再稼働 restarting (nuclear reactor)
絶対許早苗 https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/48075

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Tsukihime doesn't work properly 2016-05-09 19:11:23 Post No.15205242
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Tsukihime doesn't work properly Anonymous 2016-05-09 19:11:23 Post No. 15205242 [Report] [View this topic]

I know I'm such a faggot for posting this, but I desperately need help regarding Tsukihime's text. It turns to pic related but later appears as whole text and disappears really fast so its unreadable. What can I fucking do?

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Anonymous 2016-05-09 19:13:27 Post No.15205250
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Anonymous 2016-05-09 19:13:27 Post No.15205250 [Report]

Post information; OS, how you are running it, etc
You better do it faggot because I'm probably the only one on /jp/ nice enough to help you

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Anonymous 2016-05-09 19:16:15 Post No.15205265 [Report]

downgrade to windows 7 then try it

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>>15205242
Windows 10 and the game works fine but the text is shitty. There is nothing else to comment. My computer is also pretty new so the problem shouldn't be that either.

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Anonymous 2016-05-09 12:07:16 Post No. 15203283 [Report] [View this topic]

I want to capture a dark elf!
What's the best way to lure them?!

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Anonymous 2016-05-09 13:35:59 Post No.15203551
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Anonymous 2016-05-09 13:35:59 Post No.15203551 [Report]

The promise of shelter, security and food.

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Anonymous 2016-05-09 14:13:12 Post No.15203731 [Report]

The promise of watermelon, fried chicken, and grape soda.

Anonymous 2016-05-09 14:41:40 Post No.15203856
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>>15203283
What do you want it for?

Anonymous
2016-05-09 02:31:56 Post No.15201154
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Anonymous 2016-05-09 02:31:56 Post No. 15201154 [Report] [View this topic]

Holding hands? with the woman who beat me up?

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>>15201154
She never said how tightly!

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She wants to make it up to you.

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Anonymous 2016-05-10 09:53:33 Post No.15208728 [Report]

Holy crap, dude. You got beat up by Kogasa?

Anonymous
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Visual Novel Music Anonymous 2016-05-08 09:52:39 Post No. 15195890 [Report] [View this topic]

ITT: Post some of your favorite songs from visual novels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF0YGQumqJQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9yoeUXJvmA

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Anonymous 2016-05-08 18:28:25 Post No.15198423
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>>15195890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3K8tne5v3o

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I hpe you realize this will become an Umineko thread.
I cant think of any VN with a better OST or one more varied.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxKp-Vk6BqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP-2PwmX7rA

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Youmu is sex

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Casual sex with Youmu!

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>>15188052
God, I hate it when doujins draw normally skinny characters all bloated and fat like that.

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>>15188070
Welcome to the Touhou fandom, where not a single portion of any character is portrayed accurately whatsoever.

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General Nutaku and DMM Thread 105 2016-05-06 23:59:44 Post No.15187009
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General Nutaku and DMM Thread 105 Anonymous 2016-05-06 23:59:44 Post No. 15187009 [Report] [View this topic]

Last thread: >>15168535

Aigis Event: The Princess, The Bandits, and The Capital of Evil Spirits
http://harem-battle.club/millennium-war-aigis/1419-princess-bandits-capital-evil-spirits-guide.html

Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Millennium War Aigis:
>Eng Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>Eng ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png

Osawari Island:
>Jp Osawari wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/
>Osawari chat
http://osawari.chatango.com/
>Jp Alchemy Page
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/d/%cf%a3%b6%e2
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Dragon Tactics:
>Jp Wiki
http://ドラゴンタクティクスメモリー.攻略wiki.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Dragon Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://drapro.wiki.fc2.com/

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

Quiz of Valkyrie:
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/quizofwalkure/

Flower Knight Girl:
>Eng Wiki
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/
>Jp Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/

DMM

X-Overd:
>Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/x-overd/

Sengoku Providence:
>Wiki
http://xn--dck1bzb8cufqbe7009ew8ua.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?

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Anonymous 2016-05-07 00:09:12 Post No.15187042
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I want to fuck "Heavenly Bamboo"

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Anonymous 2016-05-07 00:30:55 Post No.15187168 [Report]

nutaku was a mistake.

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Anonymous 2016-05-07 00:32:31 Post No.15187178 [Report]

Reminder this is the NUTAKU thread. DMM users were only let in to take refuge because their thread is always dead.

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Drama Anonymous 2016-05-06 23:33:14 Post No. 15186910 [Report] [View this topic]

Which dramas are you watching this season, /jp/?

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Anonymous 2016-05-06 23:34:43 Post No.15186914
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Anonymous 2016-05-06 23:34:43 Post No.15186914 [Report]

IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR STREET

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Anonymous 2016-05-06 23:38:09 Post No.15186928 [Report]

>>15186914
SO THAT'S HOW THAT SONG WAS CALLED

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Anonymous 2016-05-07 08:09:59 Post No.15189251 [Report]

Any relation to Fuller House?

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