/lang/ - Language Learning

>>78685606
>Language learning resources:
http://4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

http://www.duolingo.com/
>Duolingo is a free language-learning platform that includes a language-learning website and app, as well as a digital language proficiency assessment exam. Duolingo offers all its language courses free of charge.

>>>/t/746368
>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30+ languages.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk#
>Google Drive folder with books for all kinds of languages.

https://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html
>Drill based courses with text and audio.The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) is the United States federal government's primary training institution for employees of the U.S. foreign affairs community.These courses are all in public domain and free to download.Site may go down sometimes but you can search for fsi on google and easily find a mirror.

https://www.memrise.com/
>Free resource to learn vocabulary, nice flash cards.

https://lingvist.com/
>It's kinda like Clozemaster in the sense that you get a sentence and have to fill in the missing word, also has nice statistics about your progress, grammar tips and more information about a word (noun gender, verb aspects for Russian, etc.)

ankisrs.net/
>A flash card program

https://www.clozemaster.com/languages
>Clozemaster is language learning gamification through mass exposure to vocabulary in context.Can be a great supplementary tool, not recommended for absolute beginners.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/
>Tatoeba is a collection of sentences and translations with over 300 hundred languages to chose from.

radio.garden/
>Listen to radio all around the world through an interactive globe

https://forvo.com
>Has pronunciation for lots of words in lots of languages

>>78685636
http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
>Check out information about languages and their difficulties

http://lexicity.com/
>An invaluable resource for comparative language study as well as those interested in ancient languages

http://cosmogyros.tumblr.com/post/108962232110/huge-new-language-learning-collection
>A very extensive language learning collection for 90+ languages.

http://www.dliflc.edu/resources/products/
>Similar to FSI, drill-based courses with text and audio issued by the US government.These courses were made for millitary personel in mind unlike FSI.

http://en.childrenslibrary.org
>Lots of childrens books in various languages, categories 3-5yo, 6-9yo, 10-13yo.

https://www.hellotalk.com/#en
>The app is basically whatsapp, but only connects you with people who are native in the language you are trying to learn. It also has a facebook type section where you can share pics and stuff too.

https://www.italki.com/
https://www.mylanguageexchange.com/
https://www.interpals.net/
http://www.gospeaky.net/
https://www.speaky.com/
https://polyglotclub.com/
http://lang-8.com/
>Few more language exchange communities like Hellotalk:

http://www.goethe-verlag.com/
>A mostly free site which offers audio and drill like exercises for 40+ languages.

http://www.languagetransfer.org/
>A free resource with recordings to learn a language.

https://babadum.com
>Flash card game with a focus on vocabulary.

http://context.reverso.net/translation/
>A website like Tatoeba (also has a Firefox extension!)

>>78685671
LANGUAGE-SPECIFIC IMAGE GUIDES/WALKTHROUGHS:

>Arabic
https://i.imgur.com/GaPEIBr.png

>Farsi
https://i.imgur.com/zAN5eMU.png

>Finnish
https://i.imgur.com/thYqRE9.png

>French
https://i.imgur.com/UpCEFWl.png

>German
https://i.imgur.com/ZTrFFlB.png
https://i.imgur.com/CzpgmUP.png

>Japanese
https://i.imgur.com/Ur8PzMZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/InA8n4n.png

>Mandarin (traditional characters)
https://i.imgur.com/mNvOu9i.png

>Russian
https://i.imgur.com/zhwCKlo.png

>Spanish
https://i.imgur.com/AKboS8t.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IQW5sKT.png

>Swedish
https://i.imgur.com/zjjjxct.png

>Turkish
https://i.imgur.com/IgPQdj8.jpg

I want to learn over 10 languages but due to that I will none of them ever learn

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>>78686605
>I will none of them ever learn
was that on purpose?

>>78686641
Sorry there's been a foreign exchange student from germany and I tried conversing with German

>>78686605
Just start learning one language at a time, maaaybe two if you're comfortable with it. Just go for it, see where you end up.

>>78687036
That's the other problem. By the time I start to feel confident in another language I just go to a different one and lose progress in the first (german)

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Tried speaking a bit of Spanish today to some workers, they were so happy and one is learning English but I really didn't do very well. I hope it gets easier.

/blog post

>>78687712
I dıd too! Kında
It was Turkish and they didn't speak it and were Mexican and it was on accident since I was really caught up in my studies before they came in. Felt really silly for awhile after but on the plus side I think I formed a coherent sentence.

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>>78685606
I was wondering when the new /lang/ would pop up
We let the other one die too early

>>78687712
Nice, I've yet to speak Russian face-to-face with anyone. Just the thought is making me anxious.

theres a latina qt at work but im gonna espagueti all over myself if i try to talk to her, what do

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>>78687712
good job anon

keep in mind that they might start gradually increasing the speed at which they speak when you talk to them for more than a few minutes (without even realizing it), which can be a problem. That's what happened to me with an Uruguayan lady I used to work with very briefly quite a while ago. She would start pretty clearly, but then the more we spoke, the more incomprehensible it became, so don't be shy to just ask "puede repetir mas lentamente por favor?"

>>78688327
Try it anyway

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How do you stay motivated? Learning Japanese has seriously made me question my own intellect, it feels like I'm making zero progress no matter how hard I work.

I've been learning some Ukrainian.

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>>78688137
Very nice. I've been telling my uber eats drivers (all Spanish speaking) to have a nice afternoon: que tenga buenas tardes.

>>78688196
I get scared talking to people in English, let alone Spanish. But we just have to push through.

>>78688327
My Spanish is still terrible, I'm only two months in and people seem extremely pleased when I attempt to speak with them. Spanish people are apparently the complete opposite of the french. We have it on easy-mode finding people willing to chat with.

>>78688339
Sí, gracias. Yo digo "puede hablar un poco más despacio por favor?" or repetir is más mejor desu.

>>78688447
I'm guessing you're of Ukrainian descent? How are you finding it?

>>78688410
Making a habit/routine out of your studying is VERY important. Especially if you're a very routine-oriented person. I myself am like that (for example, at my old job I was free to arrive and leave whenever I wanted provided I did a certain number of hours per week, and yet I ended up doing the exact same schedule every single day down to the very minute, without any exceptions), and so it was important for me right from day one to establish a routine.

Otherwise, try to keep in mind that you still have plenty of really neat things to learn, you just have to keep going forward.

Another thing which could help is media/culture. Keep watching your favorite chinese cartoons, and pay special attention to the language and to how much you like it (or, if not animu, then music, movies, or anything else).

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>>78688768
>at my old job I was free to arrive and leave whenever I wanted provided I did a certain number of hours per week, and yet I ended up doing the exact same schedule every single day down to the very minute, without any exceptions
And you say your autism is figurative, not literal

>>78688888
In my defense I took the bus to get to work, so that obviously influenced the whole "down to the minute" part.

>>78688768
I'm not of Ukrainian descent, but I do live near lots of Ukrainian speakers. I'm also very interested in Ukraine's culture and history. I've gotten used to the alphabet and am learning the basic vocabulary. Ukrainian is quite a beautiful language.

>>78688888
I have this autism as well. It's an advantage in certain things, such as learning. Nice quints by the way.

>>78689751
It's also an advantage in that >>78688964 did his job well. I had a part-time job with a chill boss who said the same thing to me, "come whenever", but I have no discipline and I just got fired.
And thanks. I took a screenshot for future reference.

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>>78689919
I typed that a bit too fast, and I'm not sure if it's really clear: I did not come in enough at all, hence why I got fired

For those of you using Duolingo what do you normally prioritize? Learning new skills or strengthening old ones? If you have a set amount of XP you shoot for every day how do you normally split it?

>>78689919
>It's also an advantage in that >>78688964 (You) did his job well
Generally yes, but there was a couple of instances where I could have stayed longer to fix something or another (and then left earlier the next day for example), but I didn't want to break my schedule so I just left it until the next day, which wasn't ideal.

Luckily my boss was understanding (though he would constantly banter me because of my rigid routine/schedule).

>>78690083
I try to balance it with the other tools I'm learning, like try to pace the lessons so they come about when I'm learning it in Pimsleur or Michel Thomas.

>>78690083
Learning new ones

>>78690083
This blogpost I found on the Duolingo forums
http://gregreflects.blogspot.de/2014/12/how-to-make-gold-duolingo-tree.html
suggests it's best to do more strenghtening than new skills, in order to keep the tree golden. I try to do 3-4 old + 2 new.

>>78690732
That is really helpful actually, thanks! I was worried that Duolingo didn't know when I was mousing over words and having trouble with them. Makes me feel a little better.

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didn't study today
feel like a piece of shit

>>78691775
You still have two hours left in the day, get on it.

>>78691829
You're right. Will make some coffee and do some stuff.

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>that reaction
kek

>>78692880
Please translate autistic leaf friend

>You can ignore/skip words in the memrise app
Suddenly I feel like giving this a try again for building vocab, now that I don't have to learn things I don't feel like needing yet.

>inb4 I end up in a conversation about militaries and will be at a loss of words in Iran
>>78692880
Translation for those that don't speak that?

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>>78693808
Forgot pic related

>>78693692
I don't speak Russian so you'll have to ask someone else if you want a complete reliable translation, but based on the little I do know (and with the help of Wiktionary), it's basically something like "what does this research prove? Mari are the most Turkic people?? what country are you from?????? answer me", and I have no clue what that last word means, I presume it's some sort of insult or pejorative term

>>78694092
I put that last word into google and it came back as a misspelling of the russian word for discuss. So maybe he just really likes this kind of research

>>78693886
Yeah it's always puzzling when courses include that sort of vocabulary at the beginning, and even more so when they include words which you aren't even sure what they mean in English (like "philology"). But personally I still learn them rather than ignore them. I figure I might as well, if I continue long enough I'll have to learn them eventually, so why not just include it now, it's not like it really has that much of an impact either way.

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Why it is so hard to learn non-romance languages

>>78694092
>I have no clue what that last word means, I presume it's some sort of insult or pejorative term
I'd like to know as well, because I think it could either be an insult, or mean "we will discuss (it)"

пo + диcкycиpy + eм
perfective prefixe + something which looks like "discussion" + 1st person plural ending

Hopefully a Russanon will chime in

>>78694335
because they're different than what you're used to?

>>78694452
i know what's the reason you silly amerilard, i'm just being a whiny bitch

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>>78694399
>>78694287
>So maybe he just really likes this kind of research
>"we will discuss (it)"
It would quite funny if he really was genuinely curious rather than angry, seeing as his message comes as being extremely butthurt.

>>78694590
He could be an assblasted professor of Mari literature with a burning hatred for Turks but a deep love of civilized discussion.

>>78694399
пoдиcкyтиpyeм* :^)
зaхoди пoчaщe в тг.

>>78694690
I guess it's one of those things which we might very well never find out for sure.

We are perhaps doomed to forever remain puzzled by the true intentions of Evgeni Ivanov.

>>78694860
нaпишy этoт paccкaз и пpидy :x

>>78694860
so what does it mean?

Never knew language learning could be so frustrating.
Tried to form a few of my own sentences in German and they were utterly wrong.

>>78695008
>we will discuss
like let's talk

>>78695123
Don't worry, it's part of the process, and ultimately the best way to learn

Keep in mind that eventually you will actually succeed.

>>78695170
thank you

>>78695423
It still seems like a bit of an angry message. No-one is that eager... "WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM???? LET'S TALK!"

(bump)

>>78695123
I know that feeling, I want to learn it. But when it cmes to the declension cases I start to lurch. I mean, I can tell the differences between them, but to memorise all the words, to use them properly, it always gets me off.

>>78698165
It's frustrating to be sure. I can understand sentences provided I know the vocab for the most part, but I'm really lost when it comes to structuring my own. There's so much to keep in mind, it really mindfloods me.
It feels like there's such a larger barrier to entry in it compared to when I was learning Spanish.

>>78698521
I have the same problem, I thnk the ony way is practising and try to master it while time elapses. Do you have any friend who speaks german?

>>78698736
I talk with an Austrian girl on Tandem, but I honestly don't think I could put her through my awful German in conversation, it'd be frustrating for both parties at this point in time.
Though I do sometimes ask her to correct sentences for me, which is handy enough.

>>78698830
well, I something that works for me and I haven't tried with german is reading a lot about things that i'm interested in, no matter whether I fathom al the text or not. At the beginning I don't really understand that much, but with time my level gets better and better. I try to analyse and focus on the patrons of the sentences and repeat them in my head. I also write a lot, it helps to clarify some ideas and to get familiar with the language. Idk why, but it helps me to improve.

>>78699096
I really should read more German I think. For a while I was trying to primarily read my news in it, though I've been slowing down lately because I've gotten a bit busier and it obviously takes longer to get through each story.
As for writing, what do you write about? Do you talk to other people, or just try and translate sentences?

>>78699333
I write about anything, that is experiences, stories, articles, tales and so on. Honestly many of those texts (at the beginning) have mistakes (horrible mistakes), when I re-read them I try to correct them myself. I also try to write short texts (5-10 lines) and ask for corrections. But if you are struggling with sentences order, you should follow a grammar books. I recommend the ones of gogle drive (everyday german, I guess), it helped me alot with french (everyday french)

any guide to learn russian cursive?

>>78699779
just use youtube and google templates for practicing

>>78685721
>French
>https://i.imgur.com/UpCEFWl.png
Duolingo and lingvist are both starting to become a slog. With duolingo everything is "decaying" faster than I can learn and lingvist words are starting to not stick. What do?

>>78699900
just take a couple of days (more, if necessary) to just review what you know rather than learn new things

>>78699900
>>78690732
the link might interest you

>>78699900
You don't need to keep your Duolingo tree completely golden, lots of mine are decayed. I just go back to whatever I'm struggling with.

Lingvist you might just need to slow down on. Maybe make some actual flashcards of the words you are stuck on and study them outside of the computer.

>>78701634
About to take an introductory language class at my university, what should I expect? It's farsi btw.

>>78702762
Wew didn't mean to reply

>>78702762
except it to be slow

Remember, even if the class is only a couple times a week, it's still important to study every single day.

>>78695423
>and ultimately the best way to learn
Objectively incorrect, output does not improve comprehension. The only way we learn how to create natural sentences and communicate in a fluent manner is my massive amounts of comprehensive input. That is, reading and listening.

Output as a beginner is a complete waste of time aside from ego fulfillment related purposes.

>>78703883
I was talking more about the mistakes rather than the method, i.e. how it's easier to remember something when you make a mistake.

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>tfw not C2 in all languages

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>one bonus skill not accessible anymore
>finished one of the two skills yet it's at zero
>the link to the skill itself is not working anymore also (https://www.duolingo.com/skill/tr/Detailed-Family)

>>78708179
is that the turkish tree?

so are we back to the ways of "the thread dies before reaching 85 posts"?
it's been active this summer, at least comparingly

on another note,
how awful is this translation?

Nuevas habladurias de fichaje llegan de Inglaterra, despues de noticias en la presa francés que alegaron que Mbappe y Fabinho también se fueran a ir a PSG de Monaco, que ya habia perdido unas estrellas del equipo ganador del ano pasado como Mendy, Bernardo Silva y Bakayoko

>>78708973
Looks like it
>>78708179
It's still working for me, did yours come back?

>>78708973
Yes

>>78710924
No

>>78711254
That's odd, is there an option to repurchase it? The bonus skills seem kind of buggy to me. I stumbled my way through the big family skill only once and got nearly everything wrong the first time but it's stayed golden ever since. I think it was two weeks ago

>>78707558
>tfw just want to be C2 in French, C1 in Mandarin, and at least B2 in all my other languages
>tfw barely B2 in French and A1/A2 in everything else

JUST

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>Just made it through 10% of my jap vocab core 10k anki cards after ~3 months.

The core vocab deck has my increased my progress 10x, since I have enough time to do an hour a day instead of needing 4-6 for textbook work, which is almost impossible during the Uni semester. Ill just have to catch up with more of the textbook grammar at after this semester, but it's way better than having to come to a dead stop whenever Uni starts.

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>>78710527
I'm here a lot. I could shitpost more but it's a fine line between getting more activity versus keeping the quality high. I try to only make valuable posts.

>>78707558
Haven't seen this chart before, very cool. My level varies by category. I'm A1 for listening, A2 for the rest. I guess that's maybe just the nature of Spanish being a language that is spoken pretty quickly.

>>78712430
>10k
fuck that's a daunting number. I'm trying to get 1100 words right now and seems to be taking a long time.

Is German more useful than French?

>>78713155
Depends. I for sure spend more time talking to Germans than French people.

Which languages have the most complicated grammar?

>latin

>>78713155
Depends on what you want.
If you want to read literature or culture, I'd advise french.
If you want to learn a job or do anything useful, I'd advise german.

>t. german speaking frog

>>78713442
Latin is not that hard to read and comprehend.

If you want to produce correct latin, that's another story.

>>78713450
I already have a good job.

Mainly for holidays, food and cool city breaks

>>78695423
The word пoдиcкycиpyeм (a mistake from пoдиcкyтиpyeм) is funny in itself because it is deliberately a high register, scholarly word ("let us discuss") framed as an informal one, down to context and the use of the prefix "пo-" to make it completely analogous to "пoгoвopим". In fact, it's essentially a stand-in for the expected neutral "пoгoвopим". It's a stylistic device to soften threatening speech, to add a little irony, perhaps.

>>78692880
There's a typo as well. He typed "этoм" instead of "этим".

I have a Turkish question. I've been trying out Pimsleur and they've been using "bizde" and "sizde" to mean "our place" and "your place" respectively. But don't those just mean "us too" and "you too"? Like "bizde iyiyiz" is "we are fine too". They'll say things like "bizde çay içerim" (this also seems like a typo, wouldn't it be içeriz?) to mean "let's drink tea at our place"
Really wouldn't that just mean "we also drink tea"?

Is there any language without a fatal flaw?

Chinese -Awful people and country.
Russian -Ugly language, shit hole of a country.
Italian- French is more useful.
French - Spanish has more resources. Also you sound like a faggot speaking it.
Spanish - Only useful because of latin america.
German - Ugly language. Most educated germans speak English.
Turkish.- No historical literature because of arabic and ottoman turkish.
Arabic - Stupidly hard, no resources, dialects. Also a shithole.
HIndi. - Too much English influence, English is the lingua franca of India, not hindi.
Farsi - Heavily idiomatic speech, taarof, autism cannot handle that shit.
Japanese - Useless weeb language.
etc

>>78714709
English

>>78713891
Both areas are overrun by sand people.
Culture and History are great in both countries.
Food is better in France.

In both countries, you may be treated like shit if you at least don't make the effort to speak a little of the language.

>>78714709
You're mistaking the language for its users and the country.

If your only remark concerning German or Russian is that "it's ugly", please stay nekulturny and leave the fun for the big boys.

>>78714748
Ah yes, the antithesis to phonetic spelling.

>>78714709
>Russian - ugly language
dumb post

>>78714709
>Chinese -Awful people and country.
RIP manadrinbro.

>>78714331
Bizde and bizde are visually indentical but mean very different things. One equates to "at ours" or "at us" and the other is "we also," de meaning also or too.

Common small talk is:

>Merhaba, nasılsın?
>Iyiyim, ya sen?
>Ben de (I'm also) iyiyim

For the second part, are you sure it wasn't içelim? The 'lim' suffix translates roughly to "let's."

>>78715484
Thinking back to it you're probably right in that it was içelim. I'd forgotten about that suffix. And thanks for the clarification on that

>>78714875
True I think I might lean towards French here because its easy to get to and I really enjoyed my time in Brittany.

And French countryside is the best in Europe i think? Your country is so big I had no idea.

>>78714709
retarded post desu senpai

>>78716020
French countryside is very diverse, but so is german countryside as well.

You'll have Provence, Rocamadour only in France, and you'll have Lüneburger Heide and Bayern only in Germany...

Do yourself a favour, learn both. I've never regretted learning a foreign language.

Always thought that I had no time for language learning, only felt as if I had only one hour for it. But after sitting down and writing out my entire schedule, I realize I have been leaving out four hours that are mysteriously unaccounted before.
>tfw huge time wasting faggot

>>78716203

Really only Provence and what ever that is? Isn't most of France countryside. I have a friend in La Rochelle and its amazing round there and have been along the alpine side a few times. Along with that taking the TGV from Paris > Nice twice now and its almost all green.


Never been to "Lüneburger Heide" sorta looks like UK a bit.

>>78716240
I consider myself pretty busy and I find a lot of time. 45min in the car due to going and coming from work, then generally have 45min at lunch, then maybe another 30min to an hour at night before bed. Ends up being somewhere between 2-3 hours per day. Some days I'm a bit zapped and can't do that much, but, this is a long term journey so as long as on average we study well we're going to make it.

tfw no studying the past few days because I came home from work and crashed

sleep deprivation is terrible I don't know why I do this to myself

>>78718120
When I'm tired I still study but it really does make a huge difference in how much I progress. I think just light reviewing is useful when very tired, because I've noticed when I'm on just a few hours of sleep I barely retain any new information.

Spanish question:
>I am sorry but I don't understand what you are saying
>Lo siento, pero no comprendo lo que dice

Why is there a "lo" after comprendo?

>>78718326
I don't speak Spanish, but in Latin and French, they don't say 'what', but 'that which'. So I'm guessing 'lo' is the definite article referring to the antecedent of the relative clause.

>>78714709
You have the shit opinions of someone who has never been to any of these places.

>>78718326
It's literally
I'm sorry, but I don't understand *this* what you say

Why is french so hard to pronounce? The letters have no relation to the sound you have to make, they're just vague suggestions

>>78718643
Makes more sense than English, to be fair.

>>78718675
English is incredibly easy to pronounce based on what is written, I don't know what you're talking about here.

>>78718753
http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html
Yeah right

>>78718753
I read what you read.
How would you pronounce each read there? English has a lot of words like these as well as a host of other difficulties that make it really hard for foreigners learn.

>>78718753
Americans can have no valid opinion on pronunciation.

>>78718807
>http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html
english was a mistake

>>78718845
Technically, both pronunciations of read are valid for both "read"s in your example :^)

>currently studying Spanish
>want to start studying Icelandic as well
Anyone with some experience in studying two quite different languages at the same time? Pros/cons of it?

>>78718807
>>78718881
>corps
so it just ignores "rps"?
>plaid
"plad".. ok
>choir
always thought it was pronounced as core
>Terpsichore?????
>similes
>mica
(why is it said like "mai-ka" instead of "mi-ka")
>balmoral

I'm glad that nobody uses most of these words.

>>78719482
>always thought it was pronounced as core

Sort of like cquire in Acquire

hopefully hurricane harvey doesn't kill me while i'm conjugating verbs

>>78719482
Choir isn't core it's like
kwhy-er

>>78719482
Corps = kor (not an English word)
Plaid = plad (not an English word)
Choir = kwair (southern), kwai'a (northern) (not an English word)
Terpsichore = terpsi-core, the Muse of dance (not an English word)
Similie = simi-lee (not an English word)
Mica = mai-ka (not an English word) (it's not mikka because generally vowels before double consonants are short, otherwise they are long)
Balmoral = bal-moral (one of the Queen's castles in Scotland) (not an English word)

>>78719759
>not an English word
So English pronunciation isn't too bad then? :3
>>78719609
>>78719747
Yeah, I looked them up.
Considering what >>78719759 said, these words surely aren't accurate at testing ones English pronunciation, are they?

>>78719990
They're not English words, but some of them do have unique English pronunciations. We don't pronounce 'Terpsicore' like Ancient Greeks, nor 'plaid' or 'Balmoral' like Scots-Gaels.

Words like
> squirrel
> third
> thirteenth
> twelfth
would test basic English pronunciation better, I think.

>>78720148
sk-whirl
th-erd
ther-teen-th
twell-fh

:v )

>>78720399
skwi-rell
therd
ther-teenth
twel-fth

The 'lfth' of the last one must be almost impossible for non-natives.

>>78718505
Thanks!

>>78699900
Hey I'm the guy who made that flowchart.
If you feel like you are starting to get really annoyed in something and it's not just a discipline issue, feel free to decrease the amount you do in lingvist and duolingo. Especially duolingo, feel free to decrease that a lot or even stop it, as I mentioned in the chart.
Focus more on putting words into anki and learning them

>>78723514
Not that anon, but, I agree. Duolingo is a learning "toy" more than anything else, and Lingvist is probably better for intermediate level than beginner.

>>78714331
mate you got it all wrong, I suggest you do work on grammar before going for pimsleur because it's really easy to mistake these things, especially since Turkish has a fuckton of homonyms
actually it's a very, very common thing to confuse agglutination "-de/-da" with conjunction "de/da" in Turkish. sadly even most of the turkish people do it too. so I will break it down for you
-it doesn't matter how you use "de/da", it will always follow vowel harmony, that's why I'm writing both "de" and "da"
- conjunction "de/da" means "also, too". It's usually used after a noun. It's ALWAYS written separately, no apostrophes even there is a name, no "softening of the constant", always follows vowel harmony
>O da oraya gitti - He went there too
>Mahmut da araba aldı - Mahmut too bought a car (notice that there is no softening, if it was a agglutination it would be "Mahmut'ta", not "Mahmut'da", also you see that there is no apostrophe since it's a conjunction)
>Şu kalemi de alalım. - Let's buy that pencil too. ( followed vowel harmony, also you see that those nouns can get different agglutinations (-i in this case) and still be used with "de/da")
-there are some seperate cases of using it as a conjunction, but I think those are too advanced for you now

>>78685721
Got one for Latin?

>tfw you love Italian but French is more useful

Fuck it, don't care if I'll drive myself crazy. I'll learn both.

>>78724340
The Latin course is easy:

1. Lingua Latina, pars 1
2. Lingua Latina, pars 2

>>78724409
>not learning spanish which is 2x as useful as those combined

kek son.

>>78724436
>learning a language from only one source

>>78724409
You already know Spanish, right?

Honestly, I'd rather learn Italian than French also. French isn't that useful and they tend to be asshole, versus the Italians have always been pretty nice and they have good car magazines.

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>>78724718
here's a more complete guide which is based on those books

>>78720148
Nice, those are much easier.
>>78720475
>twelfth
"Sixth" is quite annoying, as well. I know how to pronounce them both, though, it takes effort to pronounce them properly.

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>puede ayudarle can mean "she can help you" all the way to "I can help"
I'm too dumb for language

>>78726097
>"I can help"
that doesn't seem correct to me

"puede" is strictly 3rd person singular, so it's either he/she/it, or formal singular (i.e. "usted"). As for the "le" at the end, it also is strictly 3rd person singular, so again it means the object is either him/her, or formal singular "you" (usted).

So the actual possibilities are
>He/She/It can help him.
>He/She/It can help her.
>He/She/It can help you (formal).
>You (formal) can help him.
>You (formal) can help her.

But with context it's not at all difficult to work out what's the real meaning.

>>78724333
using "-de/-da" for agglutination is a whole different thing
-it's usually(if not always) written with a noun JOINTLY except using it with a name (İstanbul'da, Ayşe'de, Karadeniz'de)
-it usually means "at, in".
>Karadeniz'de somon yoktur. - There is no salmon in Black Sea (it's a name so it got an apostrophe. also followed vowel harmony)

>Denizde yüzemedim. - I couldn't swim in the sea (it's not a name so it's written jointly)

>Çantamda üç tane kitap var. - There are three books in my backpack/purse/bag.
>>notice that the full sentence is "Benim çantamda üç tane kitap var.", however the agglutination for possession (-m in this case) gives enough information about whose bag it is, so "benim" isn't needed.
>>also notice that "-da" is used after "-m". it always works like this. you can even stretch it a lot, like "çantamdakilerdenmişçesine". good language innit

by the way, it's actually "hardening of the consonant" not "softening", forgot about what I said before
>Mahmut süpermarkette dans ediyor - Mahmut is dancing in the supermarket. (it's "süpermarkette", not "süpermarketde", this is what hardening is)

>İncirlik'te bir Amerikan hava üssü var. - There is an American air base in İncirlik ("İncirlik'te", not "İncirlik'de", also a result of hardening, ignore the rest of the sentence.)

more info about hardening here, sorry for my shitty english
http://lang-8.com/521144/journals/173152661950174982857488878751067661899

>>78726294
Thanks

>>78724333
Ah I guess what confused me is that I've seen bende, sende, sizde etc. written like that with the spaces excluded. I'd always seen de/da as a conjunction used with a space in other examples but assumed with the personal pronouns there was an exception. Turns out it was just poor grammar.
On a related note I found a good guide for it online. If you can remove de/da and it still forms a coherent sentence then you should be using it as a conjunction, if not it has to be a suffix.

Thanks you!

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>in less than 7 days I will be in a country I haven't been to, staying at the place of a person I've never met before and then go to a birthday party full of nubile student chicks communicating in a language I'm barely B2

Fucking end it, I should've never stopped being an autist NEET. Now it's too late. Flight already booked.

>>78726807
How do you know they're nubile? Maybe they'll be uggos.

Anyway, you've made it this far, which means you probably have what it takes. I can't really say for sure since I myself don't think I could have ever gotten as far as you have, but I'm betting you'll succeed.

And if all else fails, just learn some good pickup lines such as this :
>Tu suces pour un choco ?

>>78726807
>literally living the life
I can't get laid in my home country very well, but when I travel it is easy. I guess since they know you are leaving.

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>>78726997
>How do you know they're nubile?
med students
>And if all else fails, just learn some good pickup lines

>Euh hehe, ça roule ma poule ?

Like this?

>>78726807
Which country?

>>78727149
The neutral one.

>>78726611
yeah I forgot to answer your question lol
>Bizde iyiyiz - a totally wrong sentence
>Biz de iyiyiz - we are good too/ we are doing fine too
>Bizde çay içelim - Let's drink tea at my/our place (my or our depending on the context)
>Biz de çay içelim. - We too should drink tea.

>assumed with the personal pronouns there was an exception
there is never an exception. if you mean "too" it will always be a conjunction(always separated), if you mean "at/in" it will always be a suffix(always joint), it's simple really.

>>78727143
>Tu suces pour un choco
is better, trust us

How hard is it to learn Hebrew?

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>>78685606
>What language are you learning?
Czech and Latvian

>>78727143
>Euh hehe, ça roule ma poule ?
That's perfect

Just remember to say it with a bit of a stammer, and include a few inappropriate instances of "t-toi aussi" in the conversation.

>>78727272
Went to school with a Jewish girl who spoke it well just from going to Synagog. I guess they teach it there. Now I see her on Facebook going to Israel a lot.

slow day aye boys?

>>78727073
>>78727073
>>78727073

>tfw the Irishman killed the thread

I have been studying Italian for two years and I think I could give some guidelines for people who want to learn it.

First of all; If you are not a speaker of spanish takes the course of FSI, they give much importance to the pronunciation aspect that is fundamental in Italian, it is not a meme that the tone of voice in Italian changes the meaning of a sentence.

Okay, let's continue.

That two words are identical in English and Italian does not mean that they pronounce the same, PLEASE! TAKE THIS POINT SERIOUSLY!

>https://es.forvo.com/word/sport/#en
>https://es.forvo.com/word/sport/#it

Notice the difference, right?

Well, now you should learn the pronouns, essere, stare, avere, tenere, andare, fare, the present, the remote past and the simple future of the indicative and the copulative conjunctions in Italian (e, ed, né, nemmeno, neanche, neppure, anche, pure).

Every day try to write a sentence with these grammatical resources, grammatically Italian is strange even for a Spanish, they have many elements that have 0 sense in my language, so if you speak English in yours will be worse.

For example: Cosa non faccio è raccontarti la stessa storia continuamente.

Your answer will be that you do not have the level of vocabulary to make a sentence of such level of complexity; Well if it's true, so try to do this.

For example: The thing i don´t faccio is tell the same history over and over again.

Write down all the words that you could not say in Italian, search and rewrite the sentence, you will have many grammatical errors, a BARBARITY, every structure that you think may have some complexity, write it down. The reason for this is that you see the differences between the two languages as soon as possible and do not make silly mistakes, a silly mistake in my case would confuse the personal pronoun with the object complement, because in both languages they are used in different ways.

More.

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When you can master these 6 verbs without problems in the 3 verb tenses and have some vocabulary post in /ita/ if you do not know what to post, better, we do not need more shitpost, just read, start using clozemaster, anki and lisent italian music, ONLY MUSIC, the italians speak very fast, but they sing slowly and clearly.

Well, keep the phrases routine, but now you must learn all the verbal tenses except the trapassato remoto is a verbal time really little used.

You are in the final stretch, well, there is a lot of way, but if you did the phrases like I said you should have some fluidity, something... Now you must learn as many adverbs, prepositions and conjunctions as possible, And practicing them with tenses Also uses some dictionary of most used words of the Italian and tries to introduce words of the same and when you finish writing the sentences read aloud, correctly, no incorrect intonations.

After that you should just talk to Italians.

For a Spanish speaker.

Escucha, a pesar de los memes el italiano y el español no se parecen mucho, hay muchas diferencias gramaticales pero... Adivina... :^) TAMPOCO SON TANTAS.

Hay un libro que las resume todas, consiguelo estudialas, practicalas y alé, solo te queda aprenderte todas las chorraditas que faltan se llama "Curso de lengua italiana parte teórica" de Manuel Carrera Díaz, es bastante especifico.

Luego evita cualquier curso en inglés, te explicara cosas obvias y usa elblogdegramaticaitaliana para cualquier duda, vigila la pronunciación que es bastante diferente a la nuestra.

For a french.

Italian for French is Portuguese for Spanish; Just practice and follow some course but it should not cost you much. Tries to monitor all existing differences and practices every day.

>>78688410
Just apply it somehow you will feel better when you see that you made use of it

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>>78690083
I just do whatever i feel like.sometimes i just repeat and other days i go for something new

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I'M NOT STUDYING ENOUGH

>>78729594
how much do you study, hermann?

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>>78729944
NOT ENOUGH

I did about an hour and a half today, but that was comparing the corrections I got on my "story" in Russian, looking up stuff, translating the Russian telegram chat etc. It doesn't feel meaningful like a lesson in my textbook or a new Duolingo skill.
Wbu

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Where the FUCK do I find online stuff for ICELANDIC

ICELANDDDDDDDDDD

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>>78729594
>>78730308
>tfw I'm going to have to change my language-learning schedule/routine soon because of a new semester starting (and this time, unlike my summer semester, with morning classes)
>tfw I won't be able to keep studying until 2 am as I currently do, and I'll have to fit my language learning somewhere during the day

>>78730308
Occasionally I spend some time reading and copying out a few pages of Latin.

I'd like to progress faster, but I never know if I'm ready

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>>78730454
Disastrous. It seems only get real work done during the late evening and night these days.
T'étudies quoi, si je peux me permettre de te demander?

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>>78730673
Je suis le Marianon.

>>78730811
Yeah I mean, what are you studying at university :P since you mentioned about semesters and classes

>>78731114
-about*

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>>78731114
Ingénierie mécanique

no bully

>>78730308
German senpai, use http://pushkininstitute.ru. Read the wiki, I wrote that part, tell me if you have questions: 4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/Russian

>>78731260
Noice, I'm neet right now so can't bully

>>78731274
The wiki was one of the first things I read when I decided to learn Russian, and actually I was using your link before buying the Assimil textbook. Thanks for writing all that. The pushkin institute's interface is a bit awkward though, 2bh. I might give it another shot once I'm done with the Assimil.

>>78731619
The interface is odd, is flawed as fuck, but it has the most complete course you'll find out there. And it's free (aka paid by Russian tax payers, mad russianbros?). Also, lurk 2ch, russia's 4chan.

How do I learn Python?

>>78732053
Find some sneks and get hissing

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>>78732053
hisssssssss

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>>78732233
why aren't animals smart enough to have languages so i can learn them? i just want to talk to birds you feel me

>>78732843
Don't dolphins sort of have a language thing going on? I think scientists are still trying to figure that one out.

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WTF Ginger Mongols.

Time to learn yдмypт кыл.

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>>78732843
God I wish I could have had conversations with my dog.
miss you doggo

>>78732843
Because it's a cruel world we live in
>>78733109
Rip doggo, I know the feel man

>>78733066
The Department of Finno-Ugric Studies of the University of Vienna, i.e. the same autists who've invested 10 years (!) of effort into making Mari as learnable for non-Russian gaijins as possible, have now started working on Udmurt if I'm not mistaken.

Oh, poor Marianon ;_;

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>>78733839
what do you mean?

>>78734038
Just feeling sorry for you :3

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>>78734053
y-you too

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>>78734156
Thank you for being kind with me, anon

>>78730413
icelandiconline.com
plus a dropbox folder
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bcjv6n9o3kib8vp/AABhVX33Gkh0FkGfBmi5mZTna?dl=0

бымп

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My pure and sweet qt apparently has a boyfriend

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>>78736459
They keep kissing now I have to find a new qt to listen to Spanish from

>>78736459
wow lewd

>>78736536
good luck, Anon

Unfortunately I doubt there are that many pure grills who stream themselves speaking

Anyone here learnt Polish?

What's it like, and are there any good resources?

>>78735900
caґe

>>78736642
Yeah I'll just keep watching this whore then. When her boyfriend isn't there with her. She's pretty easy to understand. Had another qt in Spain for a while that would just have a cigarette the same time every day and was also easy to understand. I can't handle the screamers and mumblers.

Quick question, for anyone who has Duolingo Spanish completely finished (or very close), could you post some example sentences or screenshots from the very last lessons? Thank you very much if someone does this!

Holy mother of Joseph. Where have you been all my life /lang/? Later I would like to make some questions but until then cheers.

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>>78737373
This is the last one, " Conditional Perfect"

>>78737756
Woah thank you very much! For some reason I was expecting the sentences to be much longer. Like translating paragraphs. Not sure who or what I heard that from.

thread shall not die

Is playing Sims in your target language helpful?

>>78727143
>Ehh bebe, vous voulez de sexe? ;)

what language is this lad speaking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHGKl7Ggctk
i assume hindi, but if so, is it an accurate historical reading of hindi?

>>78740588
according to this https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/6vr29w/crusader_kings_ii_jade_dragon_gamescom/dm2j1cn/ comment and a couple others its modern hindi.

>>78735900
Regarding English loanwords in Mari usage I suspect that they get filtered through Russian first, which actually has its own board culture and slang to boot, so I have a feeling that in Mari it would still be "бaмп", as in Russian.

>>78718753
Bullshit. French orthography may be bloated due to historical and etymological spelling but it's much more consistent and there are clear rules to how pronounce letters 90% of the time.
Compare English:
ea /i:/ 'lead' (verb), /e/ 'lead' (metal), /ei/ 'steak';
ough /oʊ/ 'though', /u:/ 'through', /ʌf/ 'cough', /ʌp/ 'hiccough', /aʊ/ 'plough'

and French:
au, eau /o/ 'cause', 'eau'
ou /u/ 'trou', 'coup'
oi /wa/ 'soi', 'loi'

>>78739236
i'd say so

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Which country speaks the best Spanish?

>>78743193
Phillipines

>>78739236
Whatever you can put in the target language, do it. Youtube, do it. Facebook, do it. Things that you use everyday, even if you don't actively read it, do it. You'll get used to it over time.

IMMERSE YOURSELVES BROTHERS

>>78739236
Absolutely.

>>78739236
I'd argue that any game set to your language is helpful. A whole bunch of GBA/DS/3DS games also have localization for many european languages, if you're learning one of those for example. (English/French/German/Italian/Spanish in general I believe.)

does anyone have good resources for auslan, they are really hard to find, and I dont want to fork out hundreds of dollars for a full course