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final solution edition
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>>77498362
>algeria
>same side as israel
kek
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>>77498493
Algeria is a Jewish country
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>>77498362
>Tunisia not allied to Wahhabis and Libya
>Turkey allied to Wahhabi, not to Iran
>Qatar allied to SA
>Morocco allied to SA
that being said, I'd rush to Iran's side desu
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>>77498524
this

>>77498493
the retards have a hate boner for Shia, the fell for the fitna meme
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>>77498524
>
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sage this thread
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>>77497127
Bismillah
>>77497362
Inshallah
>>77497457
Astafirghullah
>>77497575
Mashallah
>>77497711
Allah Ackbar
>>77497792
Takbir
>>77497906
Amin
>>77498655
La
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>>77498362
A war like this would be badass. But you underestimate how many people would be involved, and forgot some major players.

Such as; Turkmenistan, Russia, Azerbaijin, etc.
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>>77498705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb4ozEOZh8U
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>>77498362
Right side will win lol. Can't wait for foreheadstabbers to die out
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>>77498619
Le islamig unity hahah xDDDDDD

Please kill yourself achmet Shi'ism is Persian Fanfic
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>>77498710
Not to mention the US. They'd jump at the slightest occasion to nuke Iran into oblivion, which would piss off Russia. In the end it goes back to the prolongations of the Cold War, so the US will probably bitch slap SA and tell them to behave. Despite having Japan and Worst Korea on their side, I don't think the US think they can easily take on Russia, because that wouldn't sit well with China, Best Korea and the 2020 superpower.
>Turmenistan
what is their end game anyway ?
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>>77498755
https://youtu.be/qnYuNI7dLOc
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>>77498870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3zt6y-DsU [Embed]
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>>77498793
allah is a sad virgin subhuman with repressed homo cuck fantasies
muhammad's mouth is my personalized custom dick-moisturizing device
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>>77498870
The U.S. is in op's pic lad.
And I'm not sure about Turkmenistan.. But they were bad enough to make Iran and USA work together
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Alliance

>implying Korea won't be reunited before 2020
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>>77498362
>siding with usa, israel, egypt, saudi arabia
fuck no son
but we would liberate south-azerbaijan and steal iranic qties though
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>>77498793
>falling for the takfiri Jew

>>77498945
>implying Korea won't be reunited before 2020
Inshallah !
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>>77498962
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>>77498886
هههههههههه يا سلام هذا المنشور جعلني اختنق من الضحك هاءهاءهاءهء الخوض ههههههه ارجوك ههههههه لالالالالا ههههههههه مثير مثييييييييير جدا جدا جدا ااااااااه
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>>77499068
هههههه انا ايضا احب تسعة غاغ ههههه احب حس السخرية في ذلك الموقع هههههههههاءهاءهاءههههههه
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>US
>UK
>Israel

I think we already have a winner here. I'm betting on whatever side Israel is on.
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>>77499068
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>>77498987
>>implying Korea won't be reunited before 2020
Tbh this is one of the reasons korean might be worth learning. Either because off massive amounts of people leaving korea after unificatino, or because you want to work there after unification. Either way, likely to happen before 2050 I think, depending on how fatso does.
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Im proud to be fighting against khommie dogs
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https://discord.gg/Ztbwq9
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الله يستر المنشور الكريه الذي يكتبه هذا المتوحد عقليا الاقل انسانية الاصفر
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>>77498870
>what is their end game anyway ?
Achieving relevance.
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>>77498619
>the retards have a hate boner for Shia, t
Wtf I'm algerian now
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>>77499351
إلى الجحيم معكي
discordian lesser-humans pls go
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how to detect low IQ reddit immigrants:
>wtf i'm X now ;)) :DDd
thrilling news american cumstains, i'm filtering your flag
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>>77499639
>thing 4chan has been saying for a decade now
>saying it makes you a redditor
>being mad at this in particular when the quality of posts on /mena/ is abhorrent
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Fucking dirty khommie cock sucking lebanese. Inshallah israel will bomb you back to the middle age. Oh except that would actually be an improvement for your inbred shithole
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>>77499495
;-; idiot .
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>tfw have a lot to say about this thread already but I am not in the position to do so since I just let out my angsty feelings earlier
it's a special kind of hell
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Anyone has pics of Iraqi neo-nazi qt from mena discord server?
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wow, i didn't expect such an intellectual powerhouse of a rebuttal honestly, just wow. i give americans one chance at retribution for me not to filter their travesty of a flag and this brilliant clown just chattered my bridge of forgiveness with a post that i won't even dignify with a (you) let alone me jeopardizing my intellectual integrity by reading it.
bye bye Sharty McFly
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ON THIS DAY IN 1952 BASED NASSER BTFO KING FAROUK
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انكح ترامب وانكح البيض
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يا إخوتني الغالون في سوريا، حان الوقت لنا لالتوحيد. دعونا نحيي تقاليدنا القديمة، و بإغراق العقائد الإبراهيمية السرطانية التي كانت تندلع منذ زمن طويل علاقاتنا مع شقوق الحرب والمعاناة التي لا تنتهي
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>>77498987
When you will reddit tier unity faggots accept Takfirism as the final redpill?
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>>77500184
:))
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>>77500060
هذا
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Stop being sectarian
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>>77500236
(: أسلافي على التوالي من اليسار إلى اليمين
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>>77500184
Your facades are so fucking shit pig dick

I hate you never fucking talk to me again IDIOT .
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>paranoid discordian non-human circlejerking faggot thinks i'm some roleplaying persona
get out more idiot
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>He's a disgusting pan syrian LARPing about a dead ideology
(You) I guess
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fuck off mudslime
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secularism bro
we are all one XD
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>>77498362
God bless Lebanon.
A reminder that Elie Hobeika did nothing wrong.
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>ebin fictional racewar shitpost
>they actually get emotionally involved in it and argue


imbeciles motherfuckers, stupid thread full of idiots
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>>77498362
As much as I dislike shi'ism and disagree about what they say about ali (رضي الله عنه ) ,this is exactly what the beady Anglo said in the 17th century
>Hey see that guy
>yeah
>he insulted your mum and is planning on invading you
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>but don't worr, I, the eternal Anglo will help you
*war commences*
*Anglo side wins*
>oh now that you are weakened,I will conquer you too
*beady Anglo now controls both sides and laughs*
Replace beady anglo with more relevant country like the us or Russia
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>>77500852
you're still a sandnigger tho, don't think your sandnigger people with their sandnigger religion is better than the others, sandnigger
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>>77501510
>they actually get emotionally involved in it and argue
amusing, truly
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fuck off mudslime
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>77501759
>fuck off mudslime
>/mena/
>fuck off mudslime
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>returning to a general even after everyone admits they hate you
amusing, truly
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>>77500197
stay jahil brah
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اخرج خيطي أقل إنسانية غجري
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>Couple of S*nni Iraqis and an Algerian fag is everyone
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غجري
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>>77501594
I agree with your post but
>ali (رضي الله عنه )
why not صلّى اللّه عليه و سلّم though ? We ask God to bless Muhammad and his people with his prayers and benedictions in every prayer
Ali doesn't count as such despite being his cousin AND son in law ?

>>77501635
>WE BURBURZ BE WITE N SHIET
You're as much of a sandnigger, if not more, nigger.
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>>77500184
will your people push me down and beat me if i refuse?
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>>77502079
I should have written (كرم الله وجهه الكريم )
But (صلى الله عليه وسلم ) is for the prophet.it was the prophet who carried the message not ali,but this isn't meant as a diminishing of alis actions and great deeds.
T.egyptian who believes umayyade kaliphs were kafirs except for umar bin Abdulaziz
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>>77498571
Do it now and GTFO of my country
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>>77498571
>, I'd rush to Iran's side desu
based
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>>77502459
not for you anti-khamenei shill

Khamanei is Iran and Iran is Khamenei.
Long live Khamenei.
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>>77500852
he is right.You are still arab.
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>ooga booga
amusing, truly
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>>77502351
why would you oppose this?
is your anus that prolapsed by anglo/french turbokike cock that you like our current meme borders ?
c'mmon al*ve
fucking victim complex palis
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>>77498362
>houthis
>yemen aremy
same side lol
>palestine not on syria side
kek
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>Long live Khamenei.
>unironically supporting a idiot who bought his titles
>not based Ayatollah ''civil government, fuck theocracy'' Sistani

also
>shill
if only. no one pays me for my shitposts, sadly
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>>77502645
>>palestine not on syria side
You'd be SHOCKED how much Palestinians hate Shias.

Whilst Bashar al-Assad you won't see a Palestine-Syria alliance for a while.

I know there's a moderate anti-shia feeling in all sunni countries but in Palestine they go all out. It's kind of a kick in the balls seeing how loyal Hezbollah and Iran are to the Palestinian cause.
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>>77502666
Answer me this gypsy shia bro.
What do you want for Iran?

Do you want a complete overhaul of the system or do you simply want a superior ayatollah after Khamenei dies?

Do you want Turkish style secularism or full on western degeneracy?

What do you want for Iran?
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>>77502636
>why would you oppose this?
i wouldnt.
im just pointing out your countrymen a shit
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habbening
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>>77498793
>is Persian Fanfic
Then why does it glorify Arabs far more than Sunni Islam does?
If anything that would be Sunni Islam because they put more emphasis on the Persian sahaba than Shia Islam does.
It's from a Sunni Hadith after all that says Omar Ibn Al Khattab said on his deathbed that he would've made Saleh (a Persian sahaba) the next Khalifa if he were still alive.
If it were Persian fanfic it wouldn't make sense then why the part of Persia that is now Iran was Sunni until the 1500s when it became Shia through genocide and demographic replacement, while Shia have always existed.
>>77498619
>Algerians have a hate boner for Shia
Really? There's this Algerian salafist kid who sees me as his role model kek. I would've never guessed.
>>77501594
What do shia say about Ali you do not like? This is a good opportunity for me to correct any misconceptions you have, and tell you whether they are true, or if you are simply misinformed.
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Christ almighty the noobs that visit this general... you are so bad
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>77502920
>post retro ironic lol so randumb le suicidal dolphin gif XD
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>>77502774
ahh yes, fuck those leb meanies big baddies that welcomed palestinians in their country out of pure kindness and allowed them to arm themselves to the teeth
what has Ararat ever done for us?
but hey let's keep hating lebs because it's a cool and hip mena thing :)
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>>77502743
>What do you want for Iran?
a weak Supreme leader acting like a constitutional monarch without actually giving orders
increased powers, preferably all of it, to the elected institutions. presidency, parliament....etc
castration of the IRG or putting them under the command of the parliament, so they won't act by themselves

>secularism
i don't give a fuck. I just want the people to chose themselves.
if we vote for full degeneracy so be it
if we vote to stone people so be it
but the people should decide

i myself am somewhat conservative, and prefer ''secularism'' as in, we send the Mullahs back into the mosques. kinda like the US has. where you can be as conservative as you want, invoke religion in your decision and apply it into laws...etc but the priest stay in their churches
I hate French ''laicite''

i wouldn't call this ''turkish secularism'' as i think it's much harsher then what i mentioned above. but i do like what they did with the Dyianet, and that the clergy knows it's place
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Reminder that Pakistan will dominate the whole Islamic world within 40 years
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>>77502990
what makes you think i give a flying fuck about palistenians ?
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STOP

KILLING

JEWS
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shut your face now
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>>77503016
they'll starve in 20.
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>>77503045
i don't know why arabs keep doing this. they know the real enemy is the other arabs.
why not blow up the lebanese embassy ? it's probably much less guarded
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>>77502902
>why does it glorify Arabs
It doesn't.
I call it Persian fanfic because of it's dominance in historically Persian territory.
>>77503016
lel
even if you guys manage to free yourselves from your military and intelligence services you guys will never reach anywhere in the muslim world cuz of racism

dirty dirty pajeets
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>>77502999
What do you think Iranians would vote for?

I've been to Tehran and there I saw girls wearing hijab but also faces covered in make up as well. They had loose fitting clothes but their fingernails were painted and they just seemed like they wanted more freedom.
Of course that's just from me glaring at them, I can't speak farsi so I didn't ask.

Do you think they'd vote for secularism or go full on Saudi like the Kuwaitis and Moroccans did when they were allowed to vote?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWDVEZWqAOw
Pakistan has by far the strongest Muslim military, the sixth in the world, nuclear weapons, a huge population, the SSG is one of the top special forces, and the ISI if it wanted, could fuck any MENA intelligence. The economy is soon going to surpass any MENA one with Chinese support.

Once Kashmir is liberated we will be coming for you, oh Arab. The new caliphate will be from Islamabad.
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>>77503124
it's a random nutjob, doesn't know better.
but i agree bomb Ryiadh if you wanna attack zionists allies
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>>77502902
>Ali was supposed to carry the risala but gibril got "lost" in the dark and chose Muhammed
Also the shit like "I don't believe in allah and his messenger but I believe in ali"
And the various sahabis shia ppl insult on a daily basis saying that ali hated them too,as if they lived with him and saw him.does it really enter your mind that someone like ali who wanted the best for his fellow companions,would hate people that fought for the prophet,protected him and helped establish the islamic empire ?
Also the sayings that ali will rise from the dead and kill the sunna.
I do not think ali would kill muslims
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>>77502369
>believes umayyade kaliphs were kafirs except for umar bin Abdulaziz
same
except when you say
>اللهم صل و سلم على محمد وعلى آل محمد
>للهم بارك على محمد وعلى آل محمد
>وعلى آل محمد
???
So you don't include his children, their children, his parents, and the rest pf his family (Hamza, Abu Talib, Ali, his wives) ?

>>77502406
>my
good one
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>>77498362
Exclude Libya and Algeria and everything's fine. I think algeria would take Syria's side as their leader's are always full of thit and ready to betray anyone for their profit. They cannot be bought they can only be rented.
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>>77503126
Doesn't matter if Iranians or Arabs are racist to us, we can kill them all. Also the military is not that much of a nusiance, the real problem was the economy and with Nawaz and Chinese support that will be finished soon.
>>77503114
better than most mena countries, and China will make us rich. google cpec
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>>77503016
>being leaded by muslim pajeets
I'd rather worship chickens like the pinoys used to do
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>>77503225
>as their leader's are always full of thit and ready to betray anyone for their profit.
Algeria's leader won't be alive in 2020.
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>>77503146
>What do you think Iranians would vote for?
>go full on Saudi

unlikely, you don't go to another extreme after being ruled by it for 30+ years.
my guess? kinda what Malaysia has or a AKP kind of party. something along those lines

in the end i don't care, i just want the people to decide.
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>>77503253
Indonesia is gay anyway
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>>77502902
>salafist
those come in various types. If he's the wahhabi kinda durka then he probably doesn't know you're Shii
If he's the kind of Salaf based Abdullah Al-Zubayr son of Asmaa daughter of Abi Bakr was, which is the only right kind of salaf there is, then of course he's an exception.
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>>77502743
>>77502999
forgot to mention i want the elimination or full castration of those unelected institutions that monitor the parliament, laws...etc

>>77503269
you're underestimating the eternal chair-man
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Why are there so many european flags posting here?
Why do you care about the country your parents/ancestors fled from?
You're a disgrace
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>>77503170
>Pakistan has by far the strongest Muslim military
Biggest doesn't imply capable. You guys surrendered to Poo in the loos for christ sake. The only thing Pakistanis are able to conquer is little boys.
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>>77503253
Reality is that almost half of Pakistanis are as light as Central Asians, and about 5 percent (Nuristanis, some Kashmiris, Kalash) are European looking. Even so, the darker ones are very useful to our society. Arabs never created anything without Iran or Turkey, thousnads of civilizations were created in Pakistan, including Harrapan which is one of the major ones in the ancient world.
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>>77503349
I'm a loser amongst other white people so I have to talk to arab monkeys to feel superior
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>>77503170
>strongest Muslim military
hahah color me impressed
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>>77503351
yeah, away from our nation in bengal, America lost in Vietnam, doesn't mean they would not crush any nation in conventional war. We never surrendered to India on our own borders
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daily reminder not to answer to white shits.
ignore them.
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greatest ally
oh greatest ally
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>>77503352
>WE'RE WHITE AND PALE
Leave this thread you stinky curry nigger, I can tell a house belongs to a south Asian just by walking past it.
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>>77503352
>Arabs never created anything without Iran or Turkey,
kinda based tbhwyf
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>>77503436
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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god bless america and all the beautiful people in it
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>>77503414
I'm not European, I am part of the glorious Kashmiri Dogra Rajput master race, who will lead the nation of Pakistan to the conquest of Iran, Arabia, Misr, Sham and eventually Al Quds.
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>>77503458
so, these women were due to the problem in your society. We are colonizing you soon. If our armed forces cant take out the Ar*bs, Britanistan's can
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>>77503349
>lives in a cucked continent
>y-you're a disgrace
kek
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>>77503458
>Leave this thread you stinky curry nigger, I can tell a house belongs to a south Asian just by walking past it.
T B H
Pakis are very diverse. Punjabis, Sindhs, Kashmiri, Pashtuns, Balochs.....etc some are white.

>>77503511
wasn't speaking of you. was speaking of the prtuguese dude
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>>77503037
sorry i almost forgot you were a self-hating dyouth
so why do you hate lebs so much? did one make you sit on a bottle or is it the we wuz phoenician larping?
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Palestine?
Nah not a fan.
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>>77503398
That's not the same thing faggot you didn't invade a foreign land, Bangladesh was your territory until they launched the war of independence.
>>77503572
>Not our problem we're rapists
Typical paki
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>>77503671
>>77503572
can you namefag.
it's confusing...
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>>77503596
Two questions I have about Arabs to Lebs and Palestinians respectively
1. Lebs, Phalange war criminals from your civil war are still in politics, why do you let them! is this some ultra cucking!
2. Palestinians, how the fuck are you so cucked to be settled. We Kashmiris are under a much more severe occupation with more than a million soldiers, but we forced all the Hindus to leave Kashmir- watch and learn from this wiki article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus
Please learn these tactics. Are Palestinians legitimately pussies?
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>>77503206
My. Not yours.
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>>77503671
>>77503671
britfag doesn't understand colonies- how ironic
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>>77503126
>It doesn't.
>The prophet wasn't Arab
>His daughter wasn't Arab
>The 12 imams weren't Arab
Kek ok
>I call it Persian fanfic because of it's dominance in historically Persian territory.
Yet Afghanistan and Tajikstan are still Sunni today. So because only 1 country that was once part of a dead empire is today shia, you automatically associate it with everyone who is from what was once that empire? Pretty stupid if you ask me.
For your sake I hope this was just b8
>>77503204
>Ali was supposed to carry the risala but gibril got "lost" in the dark and chose Muhammed
This is misinformation and is simply not true. It is propaganda spread by people who want to divide Muslims. If anyone actually believes this then they are not Shia, Sunni, or Muslim for that matter.
>Also the shit like "I don't believe in allah and his messenger but I believe in ali"
Another statement that is not true and anyone who says this is not a Shia, Sunni, or Muslim. Ali is important of course because we believe prophet Mohammad (saw) named him his successor, but he is still seen as below the prophet by far. The prophet is still the prophet and no man is seen like he is.
>And the various sahabis shia ppl insult on a daily basis saying that ali hated them too
Top scholars have actually gone out of their ways issuing fatwas banning this because of the few isolated incidents this happened. But anyone who does this is not a Muslim either.
>Also the sayings that ali will rise from the dead and kill the sunna.
I have never heard of this either.
Again, it seems that you have listened to or seen wahhabi propaganda aimed at dividing Muslims by spreading lies about Shia Muslims and Shia views.
If any of this stuff was said in Iran that person would be arrested and thrown in prison for blasphemy against Islam.
>>77503334
He knows I'm shia and from Iran, but that I consider myself Muslim first and foremost. He's also like 11 years old though.
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Paki girls are sluts in the UK lads

If you need somewhere to put your penis come on over.
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>>77503841
False equivalence paki
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Sakuya is disgusted with you homosexuals !
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>>7750389
we don't care if you fuck our women, makes colonizing you much easier. Even if no kids, once someone has been BROWNED, there is no way back
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>>77503930
I'm black
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>>77503955
Good, you weaken the brits more- so the Pakis wil dominate
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>there is an actual poo talking shit
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>>77503596
>so why do you hate lebs so much?
i don't understand the question
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>>77503126
>>77503857
Shiism isn't Persian, read fucking history. Egypt was shia at some point, Morocco is has laways been borderline Shia/Sunni.

>>77503857
>11 years old
I hope he won't get brainwashed by retarded relatives into demonizing Shia like most Algerians do.

>>77503955
opinion systematically dismissed
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>>77503998
>uzbek
hahahahahahah- at least people know we exist
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>>77503995
prettiest girl I've ever met was half paki half welsh.

You should let Welsh bulls ride your women.
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>>77504078
Wales will weaken you further, Islam will still dominate UK
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>>77504057
>Our rape babies are talking
It's ok rather be known for nothing then be known for something negative
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>>77504040
ت. فلسطيز
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>>77504163
dumb frogposter
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>>77504163
haha, give you that Uzbeks did conquer Hindpoos, but they never interbred with the Indians, Indians were too strong with caste
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>>77503857
>Just because the prophets family were ethnically Arab, Shi'ism is somehow an Arab centric ideology.
Pls re read what you're posting before calling me stupid
Shia theology and practice developed under Safavid rule rather than when Shia dynasties ruled the Maghreb.
If Imam Ali were alive today his Islam & practices would be more similar to that of the Sunni than the Shia.
>>77504043
Yes it is. See above, when Maghreb was Shia only its ruling dynasties were Shia rather than inhabitants.
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>>77504043
>Shiism isn't Persian, read fucking history. Egypt was shia at some point, Morocco is has laways been borderline Shia/Sunni.
Exactly what I'm trying to say.
Iran only became shia through genocide and demographic replacement. So it wasn't even natural.
>I hope he won't get brainwashed by retarded relatives into demonizing Shia like most Algerians do.
I doubt it will since he looks up to me as his role model.
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<3
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Can Islam resist western degeneracy? Someday the still religious people who went here solely for money will regret their decision. One ramadan they will realize their imam is a transsexual lesbian and that you are sharing your holiday with shia, culturally curious protestants and youth who just want an excuse to get drunk.
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>>77504228
Kys

>>77504246
Pakistan was part of the Mughal empire buddy also the key word is rape
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ignore white shits please.
we aren't reddit here to answer questions
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> Egypt was shia at some point, Morocco is has laways been borderline Shia/Sunni.
I should just blame myself for reading through these redundant conversations, did I honestly expect intellectual talk or someshit
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>>77504434
>reading theological debates on 4chan
there was your mistake mate
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>the maghreb didn't even convert to islam proper before the Almohads came
>Le Idrissides wuz secular shias das mean all mokokans ad de time wuz shia too
kankerboef
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every faggot nigger or niggerfaggot leave this thread now
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To anyone who wants to escape >>>/v/eddit
>>77504572
>>77504572
>>77504572
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don't fucking (You) me pedocunt you're guilty of the same crime
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>>77504277
It is an Arab centric ideology when the figures that distinguish it from Sunni Islam were all Arab.
Much more so than Sunni Islam anyways.
>Shia theology and practice developed under Safavid rule rather than when Shia dynasties ruled the Maghreb.
Safavids were Turks who journeyed to Arab lands to learn about Shiism.
They only wanted Shia Islam because they wanted their own brand of Islam to compete with the Ottomans.
Shia Islam was already practiced and developed long before them. They learned about it from Arabs and then adopted it.
>when Maghreb was Shia only its ruling dynasties were Shia rather than inhabitants.
Also you realize when Islam first reached Egypt, it was Shia Islam? And that's what it's inhabitants were first exposed to and picked up? They only became Sunni when they were conquered by the Umayyids or Abbasids I can't remember which.
>If Imam Ali were alive today his Islam & practices would be more similar to that of the Sunni than the Shia.
Because both Sunni and Shia Islam are 99.99% identical, with history and politics being the divider, not practice of religion.
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wow, the biggest cunt of the entire lot just arrived
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>>77504751
It's only Arab centric when the notion of "Arabism" is identified as part of its theology which isn't the case at all in Shi'ism.
>already practiced and developed long before them
Not true, outside of South Iraq it was dying until the Persians developed on it to make it more acceptable for the masses.
>it was Shia Islam
False, Byzantines were very intolerant of Muslims and viewed them as a threat Islam arrived to Egypt with the Islamic conquer of Cairo.
> 99.99% identical
False again we don't practice idolatry and self flagellation like you lot
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>>77505213
Ya Ali ya Hussein
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Anyone has pics of the qt shia neonazi iraqi grill?
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>>77505306
Imam Ali was a cuck, Omar was a real alpha.
Sunni Islam took us to the South of France and Vienna meanwhile Shi'ism amounted to nothing but chest beating, something an animal like a gorilla is capable of.
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>>77505213
>is identified as part of its theology which isn't the case at all in Shi'ism
The theologies are identical with the exception of who should lead the caliphate.
>Not true, outside of South Iraq it was dying until the Persians developed on it to make it more acceptable for the masses.
And yet Shah Ismail also went to the Arabian Peninsula and even Lebanon to learn about it.
As for dying not really it always existed, there was just no stronghold for them until the Safavids made their empire Shia.
They imported Arab Shia to demographically replace the Persian Sunni that fled and that they genocided
>False, Byzantines were very intolerant of Muslims and viewed them as a threat Islam arrived to Egypt with the Islamic conquer of Cairo.
The Fatamids came before the Abbasids lel
>False again we don't practice idolatry and self flagellation like you lot
Nice meme. Shia don't do this either. Its considered haram.
This is how I know you're a kaffir shill trying to divide Muslims.
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>>77505573
>The theologies are identical
The first point in our discussion though is whether Shi'ism is about "Arabism"
>The Fatamids came before the Abbasids lel
What? The Fatamids established during the 900s whereas the Islamic conquer of Cairo took place in 642.
>Nice meme.
Nice taqqiyah
Worship of shrines, Shia figures and beating oneself is common throughout the all Shia populations you lying dog.
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>>77505464
Ali was the only one to duel amr at khandaq with a sword made by God how can anyone get more alpha than that?
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>>77504277
>Maghreb was Shia only its ruling dynasties were Shia rather than inhabitants.
Except this isn't true, Shia has a deep history in Morocco (and the rest of Maghreb though this is quite anecdotal) you just need to look the scenery or hear people talk to realize it. Either open a book or travel there by yourself, but get your facts straight.

>>77504287
may God keep discord away from you

>>77504359
>sharing your holiday with shia
Literally nothing wrong with that, fitna Jew. Fuck off.

>>77505464
Umar would bitch slap you for insulting Ali, moron.
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Lanat Abu bakr lanat Umar
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>>77505987
Stop making shit up idiot also Umar was happy Ali was killed.
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>>77505805
>The first point in our discussion though is whether Shi'ism is about "Arabism"
They both are in a way. But Shia put more importance on it, like how Seyyeds are seen as nobles, and that the 12 imams and all leaders of the caliphate have to be Seyyeds.
>What? The Fatamids established during the 900s whereas the Islamic conquer of Cairo took place in 642.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam_in_Egypt
>Nice taqqiyah
It's not, but nice try at dividing muslims.
>Worship of shrines
Nope. You can go to the shrines of Imams to pay your respects, but that is the same as going to the tomb of your grandfather to pay your respects to him.
>Shia figures
Again nice lie at trying to divide muslims.
>beating oneself is common throughout the all Shia populations you lying dog.
Then why do the top shia scholars say its haram that anyone who does this is not a shia or a muslim, and why is it illegal to so such a thing in Iran?
I guess by your logic ISIS is sunni too lmao.

But nice try at divide and conquer kaffir. Too bad you are too uneducated about Islam to be able to larp and shill effectively.
>>77505987
Based
>may God keep discord away from you
Thank you brother, I pray for the same for you.
>>77506324
This isn't me btw. I'll turn on my trip to keep imposters from larping as me.
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>>77506551
akhi my sides are hurting right now why you do this to me
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Not sure whether to participate.
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>>77506551
Not sure if it was intentional or not, but damn. It sure was effective.
Thanks man

>>77507051
>Then why do the top shia scholars say its haram that anyone who does this is not a shia or a muslim, and why is it illegal to so such a thing in Iran?
They do ? Nice, actually Shia doctrine isn't as weird as I thought. Now that I think of it, a lot of Sunnis religiously follow the habit of visiting their dead relatives despite the obvious innovative character of this act. And most Sunni scholars denounce it, so one can't really go and pretend it's part of Sunna, because it clearly isn't.
>>
>>77507321
You're welcome into /Maghreb/ if you hate this type of stuff.
If you're okay with it continue and ignore the message
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>>77507406
The biggest crime in the history of humanity is what Umar and Abu bakr did to Ali I will never betray Ali Marg Umar Marg Abu bakr
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>>77507406
>They do ?
Yup
>Nice, actually Shia doctrine isn't as weird as I thought. Now that I think of it
The only real difference is about the Imams vs Khalifa
Other than that there aren't many notable differences, besides the small stuff such as praying with your hands folded or down, etc
>Now that I think of it, a lot of Sunnis religiously follow the habit of visiting their dead relatives despite the obvious innovative character of this act. And most Sunni scholars denounce it, so one can't really go and pretend it's part of Sunna, because it clearly isn't.
Yup. Just because you see one isolated incident on youtube, doesn't mean that its a part of sunni or shia islam as a whole. You have to listen to what the top most knowledgeable scholars say.
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>>77507930
Sup
>what they did to him
You mean accept being elected ? Look I don't give a shit about political issues that happened over a millennium ago. You're free to worry about it if you like, but my mind is busy with not letting fitna tear muslims apart TODAY
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>>77508389
>pic
XDDDD TOP MAYMAYZ LOL LE TUMBLR PARTY VAN
is this the dawn of a new dank arabic memezzz :~~~D ?
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>>77507930
Nice larp kaffir
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>>77508389
He's likely either a white guy or a diaspora atheist larping as his grandparents religion in order to damage islam.
>>
>>77507440
Well, I'm sort of torn between doing actual work and being on 4chan. And I'm banking on working and chain-smoking.
>>
>>77508389
>Accept being elected
>Sunni knowledge of history

>>77508552
>>77508669
Bachem ma Irani astum wa ma shia astum ya Ali ya Hussein
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>>77507406
Shiism is idolatry, Shias worship Imam Ali and beat themselves, they're not a minority I dont mean with knives and stuff normal chest beating is wide spread.
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>>77507406
>>77508142
To jump into this, apparently opinion is divided among grand ayatollahs, quoth wiki (take that as however credible you want). But both Khomeini and Khameini are against it yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatbir#Views_of_Grand_Ayatollahs_regarding_Tatbir
Of fifteen listed there I count 4 allowing it

>>77508142
You're the guy who knows farsi right? Got time for a quick question?
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>>77509025
>Bachem ma Irani astum wa ma shia astum ya Ali ya Hussein
That is very shitty grammar. So confirmed you're not a native farsi speaker and are likely a diaspora kaffir larping as a muslim.
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>>77509025
>>77509406
you guys keep trying
i'm sure you'll succeed eventually

>>77509497
good post
>>
Why do Israelis on /int/ always pretend that they want peace with the arabs and that we should not be fighting but the moment they step onto /pol/ or post in a pali thread they immediately turn 180 and start bragging about how they're such great kebabremovers?
Fucking disgusting behavior
>>
>>77509560
>trusting jews
that was your first mistake
>>
>>77509406
We've been over this before, but in accordance with the Amman message, the following denominations are considered proper muslims, as agreed upon by all their big hoohas, and it is forbidden to declare them takfir.
>Sunni Hanafi
>Sunni Maliki
>Sunni Shafi'i
>Sunni Hanbali
>Shia Jaʿfari
>Shia Zaydi
>Ẓāhirī
>Ibadi
>the Ashʿari/Maturidi creed
>real Tasawwuf (Sufism)
>true Salafi thought
http://ammanmessage.com

Bahai, ahmaddiya and all the like are fair game though
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>>77498362
>Israel and Jordan on the same side
Might as well put Australians with us
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>>77509406
>Shiism is idolatry, Shias worship Imam Ali and beat themselves
Nope. We just believe the prophet (saw) named him his successor.
>chest beating is wide spread.
Nope. Even light chest tapping is rare. But nice try kaffir.
>>77509497
Those 4 aren't considered to be muslims by Khomeini and Khamenei. Even though Sistanti has also deemed it haram I don't know whether he considers those 4 "Ayatollah" to be muslim or not, as it is a direct violation of the qur'an, and the few "Ayatollah's" who allow it are allowing something that is a direct violation of the qur'an.
>You're the guy who knows farsi right? Got time for a quick question?
I'm busy with a homework project right now, but if I have the time later then sure.
>>
>>77509768
No hurry, I can always check the thread later. Just wondering how far back knowledge of modern literary persian will take me. I assume that the difference between colloquial/literary is because language developed and that the "written rules" are just old and never updated. (And perhaps even political, which dialect would be the new official then). Partially because I was listening to some radio earlier today and they suddenly had a recital of one of Hafez's poems. (Radio Tooka, if that means anything)

Also, isn't saying that those guys aren't muslims a pretty big deal if it comes from the Supreme Leader?
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>>77509747
>Laythi isn't part of it
>Jariri not cited
>Thawri nowhere to be seen
>no Awza'ee either
welp, it was nice knowing you lads. But from now on we're enemies I guess

It's funny that they said "true" salafi lel
I wonder how durkas feel about this
>>
>>77510862
I don't think it uses extinct schools of thought (or are they still living?)
>>
>>77509560
>>77509595
Please delete this. Anti-Semitism is not acceptable on /mena/.
>>
if Get you homosexuals will never discuss politics or theology ever again
>>
If dubs I take Morocco out to a nice steak dinner.
>>
>>77509747
The amman message is a political one a genuine theological one.
>>77509768
Maybe in Iran but not Iraq.
>>
>>77498362
can someone post the discord please
>>
>>77512781
i can are you beur?
>>
>>77512931
do i need to be?
>>
>>77509747
>The Amman Message
This is some top tier shitposting.
>>
>>77513007
you need not to be a stranger
>>
>>77503801
ISraelis are no Hindus
>>
>>77513196
im not
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>>77509560
Because it's different types of people? /pol/ is more right wing so that applies to the Jews there as well. That being said I'm in favor of killing every Palestinian, children too. Women are our trophies.


Well no kill the fat ones too.
>>
>>77513320
you are either the romanian guy with a proxy or dqn you need to ask alex for an invite link then
>>
>>77509503
>Diaspora kaffir larping as a Muslim

Assuming and making takfir is haram. It's sad to see you all the murderers of Ali over your own brother
>>
>>77513350
?? who??
give contact of him
>>
>>77513372
*Support the murderers of Ali over your own brother
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>>77513469
bait harder
>>
>>77513730
You killed Hussain no question
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbala
>>
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Why Egyptians so racist?
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>>77513929
because dey wuz kangz and they own the word.
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>>77513905
I swear it wasn't me
on 10 October 680 I was walking my dog around the outskirts of Kuffa
I remember like it was yesterday, it was a rainy day and I had just healed from cancer
ask anyone, people saw me everywhere I have an alibi
hah ! checkmate
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What a shit thread. This is what happens when you move away from the light of El and his children. It's not too late to repent and return to the truth.
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>>77514042
You support the killers also anyone who doesn't believe in the twelve imamah are kuffar
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>>77514141
Shut the fuck up, you larping faggot
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>>77515941
>>
Ines Boubakri
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>>77516110
>Al Maktoum
My roommate knew some Al Maktoum prince, I think the current head's nephew or something
was invited at his place and shit
what did she win anyway ?
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ليش اليهود يكرهون ليلة الدخلة؟
لأن بيها حماس و فتح
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>>77516574
A medal for (Tu)nisia in fencing
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why can't Palestinians handle banter :|
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>>77510112
Literary persian has probably not changed since Ferdowsi's Shahnemah iirc.
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>>77517793
Holy kek that was amazing
>>
Who are the heretics of the muslim world?

Cause from here you arr rook same
>>
>>77517997
Unchanged for 1000 years? dang
>>
Why do people here think mena is their personal blog? So many long posts astoghfirullah
>>
Astafirghullah

Alhamdulillah

Bismillah

Inshallah

Mashallah

Amin
>>
this thread is less called for than a sex scene of a eunuch
let it die already and stop being autistic
you cuck nigger sunnis
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don't mind Sakuya lads just fishing a sinking thread
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>>77522828
Why did you do this
/mena/ should not be bumped
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>>77523003
You guys can keep khrieg. But I agree.
>>
I hate Tunisians
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>>77524924
Me too
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Does /mena/ love Hong Kong?
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