what's the Ottoman empire remembered like in your country?

it is not remembered at all

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>>74205881
for being converted cucks

>>74205881
oppression, genocides, backwardness, rapes, killings, sandmonkeys blowing up the Parthenon.

>>74205881
Good allies.

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>>74205960
>sandmonkeys blowing up the Parthenon
the venetians blew it up, not the ottomans

>>74206039
because you used it to store gunpowder in

>>74205881
Nobody knows them here.

>>74205881
Also why not the 1683 map?

>>74205881
We're sorry for Vienna.

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>>74206077
because the greeks put it on a strategically important hill. This tells us that actually greeks blew up the parthenon

not quite fondly

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They were literally the devil.

Between köçekler and hamam it seems like they really knew how to have a good time

>>74205881
Turkish raids.

>>74205881
That they couldn't conquer us

My grandpa told me they could have conquered europe if they wanted

>>74205881
that they actively tried to genocide and convert christians

but in reality it really wasnt all that bad

nobody knows a single goddamn thing

>>74206362
well, they wanted to, but alas they couldnt

>>74206362
lmfao they did want to, they just couldn't do it

Based ally against subhuman slav trash

>>74205960
>oppression
>genocide
>rapes
>killings
But that is literally western civilization

>>74205881
I learned about the Tanzimat modernization movement at school
but i don't remember the rest... maybe it forgotten or not learned..

>>74206386
>>74206401
t. ottoman rape babies

>>74206362
to conquer Europe they needed to get past Vienna or take Malta something they never managed

>>74206480
lmfao we killed 200,000 turks and displaced 2 million

if anything they're the rape babies

>>74206418
>But that is literally every civilization
FTFY

>>74205881
Armenian genocide. Thats all.
>>74206362
Mehmet II couldve done it but was killed by his own people. Suleiman the Magnificent irreversibly f**ked everything up.

>>74206524
Tbh their mistake was focussing expansion towards north, if only they focus on expanding westward to Italy history would be very different

>>74205881
Oppression, stagnation, poverty, ill education, high tax... but stable

they were mentioned once in history class and thats it

>>74205881
a bunch of cucks that couldn't even conquer us for some reason

>>74206362
Actually, they were more than able to. They could've easily completey destroyed Vienna, razed everything in the path similiar to the mongols, but the Ottoman realized that Vienna was extremely important, so instead of destroying it, they wanted to preserve it. Now, if Vienna ever fell, which at this point in time, was pretty much a glorified gigantic castle to hold off the Ottomans, Europe would lay open for a French and Ottoman invasion nobody could've been able to stop.

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>>74206559
>bulgaria was under ottoman rule for 500 years
>were litterally rape babies
>lost its european identity and race under the ottomans
>lived in peace until the russians chimped you out
>get cucked by other balkan shitholes that had the same history
>>>calls the ottomans rape babies

yeah that makes sense

Moroccan masterrace here,

They never conquered us so we basically don't give a shit about them KEK

>>74206747
wallachia and moldavia were puppets and tributaries. also we did conquer the south east

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I wish I found some better empire no one’s ever heard,
I wish I had a better technology that conquer some better places,
I wish I found some reforms in an order that is new,
I wish I didn't have to kill every time I rule,

I was told when I get strong all my enemies would disapear,
But now we're not that strong and we care what UN think.
My name’s ‘Turk’ and I care what NATO think

Wish we could turn back time, to the good ol’ days,
When Mehter band sang us to conquer but now we’re stressed out.

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>>74205881
c*nverted greek traitors

>>74205881
for genociding armenians mostly

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>>74205881
I did a presentation on the Ottoman Empire in high school, also mentioned this:

>Turkey (or the Ottoman empire) acknowledged Finland on the 21st of February 1918, during the visit of the Finnish delegation searching support for the new state. A member of the delegation, professor J.J. Mikkola described the reception the delegation received in the following words : "The hospitality and friendliness was as from a fairytale. Everyone from the sultan to the journalists treated us Finns as dear northern relatives of the Turks, whom they met again after separation lasting for thousands of years." This despite the fact that officially Finland, as an ex-grand duchy of Russia, was still at war with Turkey.

>>74205881
Blocking Wikipedia.

>>74205881
savages. and i don't care about meme battles like gallipoli

>>74205881
Honestly not remembered

>>74206899
>south east
Dobrogea wasn't much about romania until the crimean war
>puppets
Enjoyed a lot more freedom than the other puppets and revolted quite often, sometimes even with the help of european powers (mostly poland)

>>74207040
its actually back up

>>74205881
They used to come every year and take most beautiful children (girls) to Turkey as a tribute. Local mothers would mutilate their daughter's faces in fear of Turks taking them.

I would burn that shithole of a country out of existence if could.

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>>74207050
>>>>>>>>>meme battles

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>>74207050
>be Australian
>get ATATÜRK'D

>>74207077
Wrong. We were sending octopuses to rape your women with their tentacles

>>74207088
>says this AFTER commanding the slaughter of anglos

really noble of Atajew

>>74207061
Are you allowed here? Did you asked permission?

>>74207104
Faggot+British puppet=Ataturk

>>74207131
Don't be mad m8 he did them a favour

>>74205881
as the only people that brought order and tame in the balkans
we need them back t b h

>>74206865
>moroccan
>masterrace

>>74207111
>Have no oppressive overpowered neighbour
>Still be a shithole

Only a Turk could achieve this.

>>74207224
That would be the Byzantines, that is before you Slavs invaded their land.

>>74206789
>bulgaria was under ottoman rule for 500 years
ok
>were litterally rape babies
wrong lmfao
no muslim married a christian and no christian married a mudslime
>lost its european identity and race under the ottomans
we're not any different from before ottoman times
>lived in peace until the russians chimped you out
wrong
>get cucked by other balkan shitholes that had the same history
wrong again
>>>calls the ottomans rape babies
the ottomans literally are rape babies
we fucked your asses in the 19th and 20th century

turks lived here but were massacred and raped en masse

and then again during communism times

90% of the turks living in bulgaria were either killed or displaced

>>74207259
>Spanish
>European
>Not a Moro rape baby

The average Spanish skin color and hair color tells of your ACTUAL heritage, amigo

>>74207326
Why do Bulgars hate fellow Turkics?

>>74207311
byzantines were too meak
balkans are shit people and historically only the most brutal dictators managed to keep us in check.

>>74207390
because theyre autistic mudslime arabs and not really turkic

>>74207419
>Be involved in countless civil wars
>Get invaded by opportunistic Slavs when you're too busy fighting each other
>Get called meek
???

>>74205881
except the Serbs, Croats and somewhat Intelligent people, most think it was good old times
no joke

>>74207516
Only Bosnian Muslims think that, and they are far from being brightest people on peninsula

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Umm, i think we once fought against them under Russian empire, the volunteer rifle guard battallion was sent to bulgaria.

>>74207077
>>74207077
>I would burn that shithole of a country out of existence if could.
yeah,how about you finish of Russia first, before you make a new overpowered Enemy...

>>74207386
>implying moroccans are not deported moriscos (cucked converts) which where blacked after the reconquista.
t. quadroon

>>74207699
yes
we have some memmorials of fallen finnish soldiers

>>74207802
Michel-François, est-ce toi, amour?

>>74207429
Bulgaria is the laughing stock of Europe, along with Romania.

Do you actually feel some sort of superiority here?

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i think from examining this thread one can conclude people, especially from the areas that was conquered by the ottomans, still remember it with a whole lot of butthurt, which makes me very happy.

>>74207699
why THE FUCK does EVERY finnish paint look like part of a gay movie

>>74208030
>Do you actually feel some sort of superiority here?
over turks - yes

>>74208030
Atleast Bulgaria is Europe not Arab like you t*rks

>>74205881
https://youtu.be/oAHRp7jjaOg
(They're not really remembered actually)

as fucking morons who lost to our glorious winged hussars

we survived heh

>>74205881
Only good thing they left was burek and sarma.

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>>74205881
Faggots couldn't even get past us.

Also, to all the Turks itt
>pic related

>>74206787
THEN THE WINGED (you)SSARS ARRIVED

>>74206434
South korea is our greatest ally

>>74209501
That's a profit m8.

The only people remembering it are salty
>WE WUZ
turks

No one else cares

>>74205881
Worthless kebabniggers that got BTFO by our voivodes throughout history.

The Ottoman Empire is never spoken of here. Even when WWI is being discussed they are seldom mentioned. Most notable to Americans for the Armenian Genocide and Gallipoli.

>>74205881
>what's the Ottoman empire remembered like in your country?
It isnt

As a shitty enemy we used to beat all the time.

>>74207151
wtf? He BTFO the anglo

Roaches with too much power.

>>74213687
That battle was a meme. Plus weren't you Krauts getting raped by the Ruskis back then?

>>74205881
it isn't except by nerds like me

One of the greatest and most tolerant Empires#
If Ottoman Empire existed today, we wouldn't have a crisis in the middle east

>>74213764
How exactly was the battle a meme?
Churchill was fired because he lost the battle

>>74207151
Nah. This mene is forced by butthurt islamist and useless minorities. No turk nationalist is pro anglo. You can find some germanophil but even its not that many.

>>74213914
KEK I can't keep up with your arguments so I will just call you a Nazi son of a bitch and leave the thread forever

>>74214104
pls dont leave, my Berber friend :(

>>74214060
>Islamist minority
>In Turkey

Enjoy the age of the Supreme Fuhrer Erdogan, you kafir fuck.

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Good fun, desu.

>>74214159
See? We're dealing with these retarded Kemalists here. Even you have more info about my country.

>>74214166
Tell me about Portugal, what are you guys doing right now?

It's funny how Portugal is so close to Morocco yet we know almost nothing about you.

>100 replies and no sign of Ikibey
Is he finally dead?

>>74214312
i really dont know man
that guy is uhh... special

>>74214159
Erdogan is populist. He crushed gulenists now he will crush other islamists cults as well. (Kuytulists ismailists and naksis)

>>74214312
>>74214428

I only started browsing /int/ lately, who are you talking about? Some wacky tripfag?

>>74214557
you now the "i am greek" guy
that spams all the threads?

>>74214500
>now he will crush other islamists cults as well.
Go back to Toru. Erdoğan will never fight Sufis. People like retarted Kuytul is hiding Salafis. They'd be rekt soon.

No one in Spain knows about Ottoman empire nor most of the ancient history

>>74214644
Goatfuckers >>>/out/.

>>74205881
Like a losers

>>74214500
Redpill me on Erdogan, is he Russia's bitch, Europe's bitch, or America's bitch?

>>74215190
just your average dictator
an opportunist, will do whatever necessary to stay in power

>>74214253
>what are you guys doing right now?
Laying low, eating, drinking and be generally melancholic. Same old, same old.

Seems like now that the crisis is over for Europe we're getting some updraft (which the government thinks it's thanks to them, but they had nothing to do with it), so life is getting a little less miserable.

>>74215190
He's showing everyone the middle finger while also being everyone's bitch.

>>74215237
>>74215326
Are you two different Krauts or the same Kraut?

Anyway, you seem to know a lot about Turkey and Supreme Fuhrer Erdogan. What is Turkey's standing on ISIS? Other than the bombings in Istanbul, does it strategically benefit Turkey since ISIS is killing Kurds en masse or does it hurt their interests?

Erdogan refused fighting ISIS for so long and some rumours say Turkey is buying oil from them.

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>>74207077
>be georgian
>your parents mutilate your face so you won't get fucked by a turk
Signs of high intelligence indeed

>>74215519
it's mene. erdogan is too rich to commit such things especially when barrel of oil was about 20 dollars. he was mayor of istanbul then prime minister now he will be president. he might be richest person in turkey.
and turey support issi is a mene created by kidf to declare themselves some sort of legitimacy.

>>74215657
Kek what? Can you elaborate?

>>74215668
Get the autocorrect to English, bro. It's butchering your words.

>>74215519
As you already said, ISIS is useful for Erdogan, because they fight against Kurds, so he doesn't fight ISIS too hard, although I dont think he would actually support them

>>74205917
This. I'm not even sure if my highschool history book even mentioned the Ottomans.

The sick old man of Europe or something. All we learn about the Ottomans in the US is during lessons on WWI where they talk about how weak and pathetic it was.

>>74205881
All we learned in school was
>Turks take over Middle East
>Shitty in WWI
>They get mad and kill Armenians

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>disorganized
>cowardly
>incompetent
>savage
>sandnigger-mongoloid mudslimes

>>74215519
Different Krauts.
Erdogan DEFINITELY helped ISIS as mentioned here
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/wikileaks-turkey-isis-oil-minister-email-cache-leaks-claims-a7460736.html
But fun fact: The wikileaks article discussing this was published in 2000, MSM only revealed it last year in 2016 after the coup.
Suspicious, right? As if they had known and supported Erdogan's deals with ISIS and only revealed it now when it came in handy.

>>74216530
>Was published in 2000

Are you sure you didn't make a typo?

>>74216530
there was nothing in those emails nor in article. you should bother to read it first before posting here. repeating 500 times erdogan support issi doesn't make it reality.
and dont get me wrong. i never voted for erdogan. but spouting allegations without ANY proof sounds stupid. i'd like to also know if you have something to back your claims

>>74205881
constant zerg rush, incompetent af, coward af, homo af, clusterfuck with no native population, cultural appropriation from everywhere
t. Geo

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>>74205881
faggots who are the root cause of everything that's bad in Hungary today

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>>74205881
They made their subjects dumb.

>>74214630
I think he is banned

It used to be 'the country that still existed the last time the Cubs won the World Series' but now that's not as relevant anymore.

>>74216698
journal-neo.org/2015/08/24/erdogan-s-dirty-dangerous-isis-games/
Sorry, went full retard. I meant 2014.
>>74216717
But Turkey is the only route. Oil and weapons are moving through Turkey.
That said, I don't think only Turkey is involved. More like the entire west, Israel, Saudi Arabia and whoever else wants Assad to go down.

>>74217110

>incompetent
>coward

OE was a military superpower for at least 2 straight centuries. From the 1300s to the 1700s their military power was at its peak unbeatable. I guess you remember them as weak because when Russia really came into its own is when they were on a steep decline.

>>74205881
Greatest ally desu

>>74205881
It isn't

>>74206418
yeah, but western civilization had also arts, science, etc, dumb sandmonkey, why else would you be living in Australia if the sandmonkey civilization was the same with western civilization?
get that through your small thick skull

>>74206039
don't worry, I don't expect you take any blame, ofcourse you're gonna blame it to someone else
you deny genociding whole races didn't think you'd have any problem denying blowing the Parthenon.

it's classic sandmonkey behavior that want so badly to pass as anon sandmonkey

>>74218121
>butthurt

>>74205881
Tried to send us food but evil anglos stopped them. Thank you Ottomans.

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>>74205881
It was a cool empire in the XVI century and at the end of the XVII it turn into garbage tier.

>>74217854
While the ottomans were considered invincible by Europeans until the siege of Malta, they did lose a lot of battles with heavy losses during their stay in Europe, their stagnation and decline lasted longer than their explosive expansion. Because some of these defeats were against vastly smaller forces (and because culture of folk revolved around these victories for the Europeans and much less around their earlier defeats) they got the reputation for being poor strategists and cowards, whereas the defenders were praised as heroes. After all, the question was how do we perceive them, not what they actually were.

>>74205881
They lost to us 10 times out of 12. That's all we know about them.

nothing relevant, sometimes i heard about osmans and ottomans and thought who the fuck this otto guy is.
Tunred out it was turks kek

>>74206865
>Moroccan
>masterrace

bad command or file name

>>74220153
Kek. All of balkans combined caused less problems than karamanids, hell konya a city had infamous rebellions thus most of them genocided by ottomans. If you kin were a bit compotent with that taugh geography you wouldnt lose that fast against a city state.

>>74207516
fuck off Mujo

>>74206164
It'll be the Roman's fault when Russia blows up Istanbul to control the strait too, huh?

>>74205881
I doubt that 80% of the population actually knows that it even existed.