White americans are dying at an alarming rate.

>>72698745
White working class Americans and it's due to substance abuse and suicide.

>>>/b/

>>72698745
It's because the democrats have sold out their traditional working class base to become a party of bourgeois neoliberal technocrats

I don't know whether to be happy or scared from this.

On one hand, it makes my people that much more unique...
But on the other hand, it makes my hide that much more valuable...

>>72698959
It's because the republicans refuse to help the poors actually

>>72698989
Neither the democrats nor the republicans care about the proletariat: it's just that the republicans don't try anymore to give the impression that they do

>going to college
>leave with debt that you'll never pay off

>>72698989
Mmm yes, indeed. I am now depressed I didn't vote for Hillary; going to go kill myself now

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>>72698989
Oh yeah, that whole "helping the poor" thing is working out great here.

>>72699034
republicans are actively trying to repel obamacare, pushing many poors and old white people out of health care

painting them as 2 sides of the same coin is hypocritical

>>72699077
How do you know this trend is related to social welfare policy?

White people everywhere are decreasing.

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Hmmmm

>>72698959
>d-democrats are responsible for this

Who wants to throw three million people that get treatment for addiction to the street? It's that awesome GOP healthcare bill.

White rural working-class Americans are voting against their own interests.

>>72699077

its different
The USA has working class white people who make 2000 dollars per month and dont have access to healthcare, so if they have a toothache or break and arm its a huge problem.
And if they are old they may have been through many jobs since the 70s, each one worse than the previous one.

they have nothing in common to the very savage lumpen proletarians of latin america, those would get food stamps and free healthcare in the USA.

>>72699105
The graph starts when the socialist nigger-friendly president got elected, not only did he break the country with terrible economic policies but he also actively normalized and promoted decadent favela murderous """culture""".

>>72699144
AHhh yes "free" trade

>>72699163
>even though the trend continues through a Democrat government, it is definitively the republican's fault

>>72699091
Obamacare was, in the first place, a milquetoast capitulation to the interests of capital--arcane, often ineffectual, and heavily means tested. If the Democrats had just stuck to their guns and implemented a single payer system in 2009, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. Universal benefits are the ones that win political capital, because they improve the lives of a broader cross section of the electorate; unlike Obamacare, which, although it has indeed helped many, generates intra-class resentment due to the exclusivity of its subsidies and skyrocketing premiums. The democrats thought they could serve both the interests of the people and the profits of private insurance companies, and for this they have paid dearly.

>>72699258
Enjoy your "pain clinics". After all, healthcare is a commodity, like everything else. Anything else would be literally communism.

wtf! I love Communism now!

How do we convince the working class to come to our side, brothers?

>>72699413
It IS a commodity you daft little third world shit. Why wouldn't it be?

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>>72699514
Google Murray Bookchin

VIVA ROJAVA

>>72699541
Because it's a human right in all the civilized nations of the world.

>>72699589
>the work of another is my RIGHT
I thought we agreed slavery was wrong

>>72699163
That's not true at all. Republicans 100% support helping them poor suburban white children that lost their way. After all, it's not their fault. It's the inner city youth who know full well what they're doing and are fully responsible for their own demise republicans have a problem with.

>>72699557
>Jew
Of course

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>>72699625
By that metric, the labor of the police officer, the schoolteacher and the fireman are already your property. Are they your slaves?

>>72699736
Jews are good you treacherous WASP

>>72699737
None of their services are my right (supreme court even ruled on this). You said healthcare was a right.

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Why does everyone hate the white working class? People always say the "they vote against their interests" meme but surely that doesn't mean they ALL need to be generalized as a bunch of useless hillbillies.

>republicans haven't had power for nearly a decade in the USA
>blame the republicans

really makes you think

>>72699077
why are you acting like the god, would've allowed single payer system to be implemented

>>72698745
This is due primarily to meth iirc.

>>72699298
This. Obamacare has been a political failure and if anything, single-payer has become more popular among the American electorate. If the Democrats would have taken the lead on this back in 2009 instead of sucking off insurance companies and cowering from Republican bullshit in congress, then they'd have been the party that gave the people what they didn't even know they wanted. Instead, they're the party who drove deductibles up and dropped millions of dollars on a website that didn't work.

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>government run healthcare for 300 million people in a non-homogeneous country

nah, i already pay too much into medicare/aid

why the fuck would i want to pay even more and have the quality of care go down?

get rid of medicaid and leave medicare for the old people that don't work

>>72699832
Well, trump is a crony. I mean, they had no choice but to vote for him, but what made people think that he was different from any corrupt Wall Street billionaire

I'm on obamacare funded state medicaid ask me anything.

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>>72698745
It's mostly the useless ones dying out.

>>72699832
/pol/ actually loves them. Everyone generalizes a lot, liberals are all either white kids living in fantasy world and having 100 meter walls around some gated communities separating them from reality, or nigs on welfare, neither capable of thinking.

Working class is full of racists and idiots voting against their interest being unable to grasp the intricacies of the world due to their lack of education and so are incapable of thinking and shouldn't vote.

Etc etc. It's always good to pretend the other group shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I, personally, just dislike traditional people who shun education and science and believe that obvious truths are always right. Aligns pretty well with working class alright. But that's just me being an annoying technocrat/something hybrid

>>72700607
What's your age, weight, and blood type? Any chronic illness?

>>72700681
26 years old probably somewhere around 160-180 lbs (I'm fit not fat at all), no idea what my blood type is.

I have no chronic illness (besides maybe chronic depression that I just started getting treated). I only use it for prescriptions and in fact stopped going to things like the dentist and doctor when I got put on it because I have so much respect for the tax payer. If I didn't have it my prescriptions would cost a huge portion of my monthly income.

>>72700676
Have you ever considered that perhaps much of the working class may be ignorant because of their material conditions, and not the other way around?

good, they had everything and more that's coming

>>72700676
>Working class is full of racists and idiots voting against their interest being unable to grasp the intricacies of the world due to their lack of education and so are incapable of thinking and shouldn't vote.

Some are racist but I would emphasize idiot above all else. Actually, naive is a better depiction. I mean how else do you think these people are able to come to the conclusion that a man living in a golden palace is fighting for the common man's interest?

>>72700766
If you don't get regular checkups and dental care you could actually end up costing the system more because of issues that are not recognized early. You should go to the dentist and the doctor for checkups mate.

>>72700780
That depends. Lots of people aren't really ignorant because they lack money, it's something more ingrained like culture.

We have plenty of farmers who can get pretty rich with all the donations and the like but that doesn't seem to make them any smarter and they certainly don't want to educate their children further.
There is a difference between a man running a business, and engineer/scientist switching between work and research, and a basketball player.

Doesn't America still have plenty of private schools where children get sent just because religious people want religious education and none of that evil evolution.

Sure it would be all good if people just stopped being ignorant and I do support government putting money specifically into education and making it widely available, still doesn't change the fact that I view the stereotyped working class member negatively.

>>72700908
I will go to get physicals but I'm at an age where it's not really necessary and I stay in pretty good shape and take vitamins.

Right before I got taken off my parents insurance I made sure to get all my dental work done so that, at least for the time being, is not that big of a concern either. I'd like to wait to do either until I get off medicaid.

It's how I was brought up, if you're doing something on somebody else dollar then you should be pinching pennies and treating it with as much respect as possible.

The US was doomed post WW2.
It started with military keynesianism and mass food production. Continued with mass labor outsourcing and population replacement, it's just a way to keep the books looking up.

The US has no business being as economically well off as it is, we're literally a service economy.

>>72700979
>Doesn't America still have plenty of private schools where children get sent just because religious people want religious education and none of that evil evolution.
Very much a meme.
Private schools educate much better than public schools. Public schools are fucked due to the teachers' union. Horrible teachers hang around forever and they cater to the lowest common minority. They're glorified babysitting.

Happy fat yank frolicking in the burg

Yonder, painted musketeer

Happy fat yank leaking red

>>72700808
He talked shit about spics, niggers, libtards, king nig, said he'd give everyone jobs, and promised to make America just the same as it was in the time pappy tells stories about. He's so rich, and only good people can be rich because financial status is based entirely on merit and individual exceptionalism.
He identified a few real issues not being addressed.

>>72701070
>The US was doomed at it's point of most strength relative to the rest of the world

what?

>>72701070
A service economy is really just a servant economy.

>be black and descended from slaves
>through hard work and determination family becomes rich and successful
>somehow descendants of European immigrants who were given everything in the world to progress are somehow dirt poor and actively voting against their interests

No sympathy for rural working class whites. There's a reason they vote for Republicans and indirectly like to blame black people for all their problems.

>>72701412
mah niggah (no offence)

It's opium.

Heroin and prescription painkillers to be exact. It's a huge issue that most regions won't even acknowledge but it's big particularly with whites (of all ages and incomes).

>>72701412
>European immigrants who were given everything in the world to progress

99.999999% of all humans prior to like the modern era lived in complete and utter misery, black or white.

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>>72701412
>it's another bourgeois liberal blames the poor for their own exploitation episode

Lad...

>>72701618
no ur wrong

most white people who fled europe to live in the USA were super wealthy and rich

>>72701324
Government contracts, many of them military and food subsides make up the bulk of the US' economy. Everything else is just a flee. Government keeps bloating because it's how we keep countless businesses alive. Largely this was decided post-WW2 because they were afraid the revolutionary would slump after government contracts ended. Though it's not sustainable at all.

>>72701752
*economy

>>72701618
They immigrated to the most prosperous nation on the planet that was obsessed with white supremacy and placed them on top of the racial totem pole above nonwhites.

They were by far the main demographic on the planet that had the most opportunities. Literally all you had to do was exist, be white and not be retarded to be given a steady path to middle class success.

No one is forcing these people to stay in rural areas. Black people also came from rural areas but actively traveled across the country to find opportunities and went to big cities.

>>72701655
Hell no, just a very small percentage sitting top of everyone else. Pioneering would probably be classified as suicide today.

>>72701809
You have anti-discriminatory laws and not much to bitch about considering you're living in the golden age of opportunity. Everyone before you had to work ten times as hard for half as much.

>>72698745
Good, white europeans are next.

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>>72701811
>tfw no unclaimed territories thousands of miles away to settle and improve

Really bad feeling

Good. Fuck whites.

>>72701655
Yes, always those millions of wealthy Irishmen and Italians totally didn't live in ghettos until 30 years ago

>>72702056
You know most people to colonize space will be 3rd worlders because first worlders would be comfy enough on earth.

>>72702169
Space is no joke. They had a civilian onboard once and the whole shuttle exploded.

Not at all like boats, those were full of kidnapped children that survived. Occasionally.

>>72701914
Not true. If anything this generation has to find ways to become competitive since there's an extreme shortage of jobs compared to the last generation.

To get any sort of decent job in this country nowadays it's expected to at least have a four year degree and plenty of experience under your belt. This is why rural white areas are falling behind. They refuse to do what everyone else is doing (or at least feel they lack the opportunity to). America doesn't have or need labor intensive jobs like it once did.

Also what do anti discriminatory laws have to do with anything. Are discriminatory laws needed for rural whites to be competitive? If not it should be a non issue. They've had plenty of time to attain an edge over minorities for this to even be an issue.

>>72702262
Service jobs are more numerous than ever. What makes you think you're too good for McDonalds without a degree?

>>72702248
The more we use a tech the safer and better it becomes. At some point it will be about who is willing work like crazy with no prospect of pay in a can in space or on another planet with 20 other guys with barely enough space to fart.

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>>72699298
This.

Should've listened to Sanders.

>>72702262
There are no jobs. Your going to work in government/healthcare, corn/oil, or service.

You're extremely well off if you find a job outside of that.

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>>72698745
its drugs 100%
the same thing is a major issue here
rural and poor white communities are utterly ravaged by drug abuse and nothing is done about it because both the liberals and tories only care about their voting base in the cities


the only party with a sensible drug plan is the NDP because their voting base is those poor whites.

>>72702321
There's nothing inherently undignified about labor that is not academic or clerical in nature, or at least there shouldn't be: the point is that people can't support a decent standard of living on jobs like that anymore. Real wages have stagnated for decades.

>>72702391
Yeah, but space isn't tech. It's full of radiation and shit. Consider the deep sea, we can send robots down there but people will just explode.

>>72702321
The minimum wage in America is incredibly low. You cannot realistically expect to live a somewhat comtortable life on it alone without public assistance.

The thing is rural whites vote against public assistance. Who's fault is that?

There's a reason why they're against public assistance to the point of stunting their own growth.

>>72698745
>old people dying out at very fast rates

Gee, what a fucking surprise.

>>72702321
The burger is right though, look at work participation rates from china to india to america, it's all falling, robots and automation are making getting a job more difficult than ever.
We're probably way past peek consumption too. The infinite growth of the service sector is a meme.

>>72699793
>None of their services are my right
You have a right to education and to be assisted by the police, fire department, etc. if you call them. They are literally called public fucking servants.
Jesus fucking christ, stop selling your nation down the shithole.

>>72700780
>because of their material conditions
They have access to the Internet. No fucking excuse. They're just intellectually lazy.

>>72699241
Lol the south and the southwest arent where the factories were

>>72702524
They're from a time when you could make it on your own. Find a job, any job, go to work, come home, repeat and you were alright.

For a number of reasons that's impossible today.

>>72702656
>bud dey got internet
that's literally a /pol/ argument about niggers

>>72702656
The Internet cannot replace a quality K-12 education and having enough to eat

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>be born a pigskin in the wealthiest nation in the world
>piss it all away because you want to be a teen parent and shoot up heroin and live the rest of your life on NEETbux

>>72698745
>Believing the Wall Street Jewnal

>>72702722
They need to adjust and/or move on. America doesn't need labor jobs like that anymore.

Blacks also came from rural areas where they could do they same but moved en masse to industrial parts of the nation to find more work and opportunity.

>>72702876
If America no longer needs labor jobs, then you'd better not object to the massive federal education programs it's going to take to bring these people back into the economy and give them a fighting chance.

>>72703007
I don't mind. I'm all for them.

The irony of the situation is that these people are the ones against these federal programs. How am I supposed to feel sympathy for them not receiving aid from said programs?

>>72702262
>Extreme shortage of jobs
We're actually facing a shortage of skilled workers. People are continuing to work at McDonalds and the like rather than learning a trade or improving their prospects. The average age of plumbers is in the 50s or something

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>it's a "bourgeoisie blames the poor for problems the bourgeoisie caused" episode
No wait... I mean, those dumb poor people have so much opportunity. Why don't they just pull themselves out of the lower class? This is the land of opportunity after all, you can do anything. All White people have always been extremely rich, how could white people possibly be poor?

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>>72699195

>>72703860
>a poor person has food to eat

Oh no, the horror!

>>72703952
t. Frito Lay

>>72702566
Populations are getting older though

>>72698745
this happens when white people are becoming more equal with POC. To white people equality seems like oppression. fuck whitey

>>72705457
>equality means everyone has to have a shitty life, rather than raising everyone up

Hm you must be a radlib, eh lad? Or just a /pol/yp impersonating one

>>72701412
Blacks have gotten tonnes of help and they're still largely poor, stupid violent trash.

>>72703625

Go back to cripplechan.

>>72705651
False

>>72701412
>what is affirmative action, social housing and other free nigger gibs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvDBtjE8i04

>>72698745
thanks obama

>>72705801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1hlBeAK4Wc

>>72705801
Shucky darn mufuggin crackaz be keepin da kangz down nigga hyuk hyuk

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>>72705500
and you must be white, eh lad

>>72706055
That doesn't look vegan halal to me. Are you sure you're a true leftyclucker?

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>>72706145
Only tree hundred galories :-DDDD

>>72706259
Cluck cluck cluck

>>72706346
nod an argumend :-DDDDD