Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1817

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>>71710692
what the fuck did they even learn in the first semester?

>>71709745
That's great. I wonder if it bothers them to only use hiragana though, what if they can't read the kanji I use?!

>>71709955
Tell me more anon, I need to learn how to have a conversation with someone.

Bobu wa sakana ga suki da.

If I have a question about sentences, is it alright if I ask?

>>71710692
That's what happens when people take foreign languages as a required course when they don't give a shit about it, the sad thing is those people will probably still pass the class.

>>71710916
Is this a trick question?

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「くせに」と「のに」の違いは何?

>>71710843
the -masu form of verbs and some i-adjectives. To be fair, we were taught suru, they just apparently neglected study between semesters and just forgot it all. There's like, 5 people in the class who I think are serious about the language and the rest are just there for a hopefully easy grade.

Almost every single class, SOMEONE asks how to say that you played something. They never remember "suru", it's going to become an in-class meme at this point.

Another thing nobody ever remembers is that you don't have to put a を in 勉強する and other suru verbs.

And, this is more of a cultural thing, but EVERY SINGLE TIME someone sneezes, someone asks the teacher "how do you say 'excuse me' in Japanese?" and the teacher says "you don't".

In One Ear, Out The Other: The Class

>>71710916
いや、出なさい

二重顎のバーガー君

>>71711045
Are you at an N3 level already?

>>71711005
noni has no emphasis, kuseni puts emphasis on the sentence. Like when you scold someone you would use kuseni instead of noni
But kuseni is only used in a negative manner. also check DOIG

>>71711088
Probably N4, honestly. My grammar is probably N3 but I don't have the vocab.

>>71711124
>know more grammar than vocabulary
H-how?

>>71711045
Wow, the Japanese class aren't near that bad at my school. In my class at least half the class seemed like they wanted to learn and tried to understand and study. Even those who were just doing it for the requirement at least tried and weren't near this ignorant. Maybe I just got lucky.

>>71711124
You should speak up in class and answer more questions and maybe a QT 6.5/10 will ask you to help her out with some nihongo benkiyouSURU.

This is your time to shine. Don't waste it anon, like I did. ;_;

>>71711169
Grammar is consistent across vocab, you learn one rule and you're fine for every word you'll ever come across.

Vocab is harder because you learn a word and you just know that word, only a few dozen thousand to go. I also put very little focus on nouns since you can "open" a lot of things, but a door is a door is a door. A lot of things are "cute", but a cat is a cat is a cat.

>>71711169
If you just take a class on campus and don't study outside of it, but still take the class seriously its relatively easy for your grammar to outclass your vocab as classes don't tend to teach a whole lot of vocab.

>>71711228
>maybe a QT 6.5/10 will ask you to help her out with some nihongo benkiyouSURU.
>tfw this actually happens more often than not

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>>71711045
Why are you wasting your time and money on that garbage? I'm a full-time engineering student and I self-study Japanese, and I'm far more advanced than my ""Japanese Major"" friend, who's been in college a year longer than I.

>>71711228
Student D usually speaks up after a few seconds if nobody else answers, and while he's not a meme spouter or anything I'm pretty sure he chans. Bastard has a 7/10 Spanish girl who sits next to him and they crack jokes at each other during group work.

>tfw he's shining and I'm not
ち、ちくしょう・・・!!

>>71711346
You need a 102-level proficiency in a foreign language to graduate, and you can't just test out.

>>71711240
>Grammar is consistent across vocab, you learn one rule and you're fine for every word you'll ever come across.
Really. I guess now I should just study grammar and catch them all before I dive back into vocab.

>>71711307
In my case I got paired with the QT 6.5/10 for a project and she had taken Japanese for 4 years in high school so at the time knew more than me.

>>71711346
I'm an engineering major too that just took it for the easy A to boost my GPA.

>>71711370
>You need a 102-level proficiency in a foreign language to graduate, and you can't just test out.
Just keep going to the classes but learn alone ahead. If you go along with the speed of the classes you will never finish Genki (I assume you use it in class)

>>71711433
This. If you gotta take the class to pass, do it, but you will need more than they can offer you if you really want to learn the language.

>>71711370
>Student D usually speaks up after a few seconds if nobody else answers, and while he's not a meme spouter or anything I'm pretty sure he chans. Bastard has a 7/10 Spanish girl who sits next to him and they crack jokes at each other during group work.
What if he goes to /djt/

>>71711045
>"how do you say 'excuse me' in Japanese?" and the teacher says "you don't".

So if I'm talking to a Japanese person, and I have to stop talking for a moment and sneeze once or twice, I'm not supposed to say anything? Shouldn't you at least say 失礼します or すいません ?

>>71711551
good luck finding me I'm 1 out of 13 other students.

>>71711588
oops, I meant 'excuse you', as in 'bless you' when you sneeze.

>>71711624
Ah, gotcha

>>71711588
I don't know for sure but I think in that instance you would but if its a random person on the train or something you wouldn't say anything to someone who sneezed.

>>71711551
そうしてもstudent dにはあいつが誰だと分かっていないはずだ

>>71711745
>tfw your japanese is too shit to understand what this anon is saying
This grammar stuff is killing me.

>Even if it were the case that student d was that guy then I don't know what I would do anyways?

Is this right?

Just dropping this here too since I didn't notice you had moved threads already when I posted it
>>71703679
>>71703725
>implying subs 10 years ago were simulcast subs or couple hour rush jobs
Also the sub quality doesn't matter much when you hear the same shit over and over subbed in slightly different ways. With enough context around the words and enough repetition it is not hard to figure out what the actual meaning is and what situations it is used in

>>71711745
>Bastard has a 7/10 Spanish girl who sits next to him and they crack jokes at each other during group work.
この説明程度は多分足りると思います。

>>71711960
Nope.

>>71712059
>説明程度は多分足りる

It's okay to put 程度 next to 説明 like that?

>>71711960
I was saying "even if (he) does, he shouldn't be able to tell who that guy (you) is"

>>71712169
It might not be, I can't confirm or deny. It seemed most natural to me, but I'm certainly not 100% proficient.

>>71712261
if you google it and put it in quotes it appears fairly often so it should be fine

>>71712167
>>71712186
I don't see how this works.

Okay so, には sets student d as a topic right? and therefore あいつが refers to him again? I'm not understanding what 誰だと means though.わかっていないはずだ is straightforward, I think.

>>71712352
だと is being used as the quoting particle.

お茶だと言った means "(he) said 'green tea'".
かわいいと言った means "(he) said 'cute'".
面白いと思った means "(he) thought 'interesting'".

Apply that to わかっていない

then add はずだ to that idea.

>>71712352
basically what he's saying >>71712446

when you come across this type of grammar just imagine anything between は and と as a sentence in quotes

How did a language as old as Japanese end up with so many loan-words? Watching subbed anime and every other word seems to be a loan word. Even simple words like "risk". You guys been around this long and never took a chance?

>>71712576
Japan loves to modernize their language all the time. Just look at how they've shortened a ton of stuff just because they're too lazy to actually say it right.

>>71711005
when you are trying to insult and make someone mad/offensive, kuseni is very effective.

with "kuseni", let's try to translate the following sentences.

though he is an adult, he still watches Anime

even though he has studied Japanese for after all three years, he doesn't speak Japanese well.

this is Japan!! Don't talk big when you are a mere Gaijin here!!

>>71712344
Hey, that's pretty handy. Thanks Germany.

>>71712576
Doesn't 冒険 mean risk?

Thought your sentences didn't sound quite right so I made my own for practice. Feel free to correct any mistakes

>>71711745
そうだとしてもあいつが誰だかstudent dには分からないはず

>>71712059
これだけの情報があれば分かると思います

yep actually "risuku" very often comes out of Japs mouths. deal with it

>>71712446
Right, this brings back memories of when I learned it with the 言った and 思った, I don't see it anywhere though, so I guess I forgot about it.

>>71712515
Wait, that makes sense, but isn't a bit different from what that other anon said? Other anon's explanation included わかっていない and だと, but yours seems to imply you only need to look at what's inbetween は and と which is あいつが誰だ.

>>71712843
Yeah

hyper-literally:
>"that guy, who" is not understanding, expected to

semi-literal translation attempt (to keep original grammar intact)
>He is not expected to understand who that guy is.
something like that.

What counts for Japanese people when they're discovering new writers: The amount of kanji that the writer know? History quality itself?

Could you recommend me some Japanese modern writes, please? I h8 Murakami tbqh, is there any other?

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>>71712706
yea I think your sentence is better 2bh, I'm not sure if mine is wrong though

I just did the J-CAT online tesuto. I thought I was in for a nice little test similar to the N5 sample questions that the JLPT has on its website.

Nope. Not even close.

Fuck sakes that was difficult. Too hazukashii to even post my scores.

>>71713068
Did you encounter N4 stuff or something? N5 isn't even all that much stuff if you watch anime.

Which is "softer", あほ or ばか?

>>71712955
>What counts for Japanese people when they're discovering new writers: The amount of kanji that the writer know? History quality itself?

I keep reading this and it gets dumber every time

>>71713293
The questions were way beyond my level, but I believe the final scores are adjusted for the difficulty level of the questions. There was a self-assessment of your Japanese level before the test, maybe I ranked myself way too highly.

Regardless, I got rocked. Never have I felt more dekinai.

foreigners also judge a person by appearance.
they believe that a person who has a face of a kind of Japanese and speaks a kind of Japanese is Japanese.

Japanese always don't judge a person by appearance.
For example, we think Japanese-American is American usually, even if he has the same face as ours.

東朝鮮=east korea is a slang meaning of 'fuck Jap' on internet usually.

>>71713479
You definitely screwed yourself with the assessment.

Is there something easier I can read that's harder than NHK Easy but less hard than regular NHK? NHK is really too hard for me right now.

it depends. but I heard Osaka people got baka seriously or autistic.

>>71713879

Well something that helps me with NHK is following a certain set of topics day by day. Think like the Kim Jong Nam murder case. You can jot down some of the words you don't understand, make a kind of mini, temporary vocab list that are key to the topic, and follow the story as it unfolds, each day getting new words but also reaffirming past ones. So like speaking of the Nam murder, I've learned words like 殺害、北朝鮮、毒物、etc.etc.

Correct me if this is not the case for you, but the hardest thing about NHK news articles for me is the wide the vocabulary used, particularly nouns. The grammar is very utilitarian and straightforward, being national news and all.

>>71713879
Normal japanese material like manga and VNs.

>>71698816
What software is this? I've been waiting for someone to post a screenshot that mentions it in the filename or exposes the URL, but I haven't seen anything.

It looks like duolingo's theme but isn't that not out yet?

>>71713767
lol, what the fuck does that have to do with anything DJT related?

>>71714353
that's duolingo. probably the reverse course (i.e english for japanese speakers)

>>71711124
N3 includes more than most people think

>>71714476
Such as?

>>71714677
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/JLPT_Guide/JLPT_N3_Grammar

Obviously not all of these are that high level, but I doubt that any Japanese II class covers more than half of the grammar on there. There's more if you count all of the various adverbs and articles that have specific grammatical purposes.

>>71714844
Jap Class guy desu. I only use the class as a supplement, I mostly self-study.

>spend 10 seconds trying to read a word
>oh wait, it's a fucking name

>>71714844
I mean do you really have to know ALL of them? Even for JLPT?

>>71715136
You'd learn all that shit by reading one porno game in Japanese.

>>71715210
You mean I'd have to learn all of those to read one porno game. But really what porno games are we talking about?

>>71711588
まじめな話
もし誰かがくしゃみをして「失礼」と言ったら、「いいえ(大丈夫です、お気になさらず)」と単純な答えを返すのが普通です。

文化的な話
日本では、「くしゃみの隙に悪魔が入り込む」といった考えはありません。なので神のご加護は必要ありません。
くしゃみは「誰かがその人の噂をしている印」という考え方はあります。よくアニメやドラマで、登場人物たちが誰かの噂話をしている場面の後、噂された本人がくしゃみをしている場面が差し込まれるのはそのためです。

女の子の話
JC or JK は独自ルールを守っていることが多いです。誰かがくしゃみをした後、最初に「ハッピーアイスクリーム!」と叫んだ人が、みんなからアイスクリームを奢ってもらえる、とか。でも、本当に奢ったりはせず、「ハッピーアイスクリーム競争」を楽しむだけです。

But I'm a very BBA, so I don't know today's JK's rule. Sorry!

>>71713767
You are retarded, Japanese people judge any white person born in Japan as if they were American.

What is the difference between that and judging an American-born Japanese by her appearance and calling her Japanese?

>>71715136
No single JLPT N3 test will likely use everything on that list, but it's all possible to appear. It's all essential grammar anyway.

>>71715326
Also t. guy who passed N3 last year

はぁっ、はっくしょん!
失礼。

>>71715365
あなたはかわいいしょうじょですか

>>71715261
Any medium length VN or other text will use every piece of grammar on that list. You don't need to learn it before reading, you can read while looking things up.

>>71715289
In English if you speak the same word at the same time, we have "Jinx! You owe me a soda!"

>>71715365
Happy ice creamu!

>>71715420
女性の股間に普通ない膨らみのある可愛い少女です。

>>71715508
アイスがないけど他の舐められる棒状のものなら一本あるよ。ほれ

Just started reading Yotsuba. What does しな mean in the following sentence?
>まぁいいか、ジャンボが二人分働くしな。

>>71715835
Maybe the し is being used to express that there are more reasons than just that he's tall, and な is for emphasis.

>>71716002
The sentence is saying something like "Whatever, Jumbo will have to work for two people" or something like that, it has nothing to do with him being tall.

>>71716104
Oops, dyslexia. Maybe it means that he will do the work for two people, among other reasons. し and な still holding the same meanings.

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>>71715486
Interesting.
...Soda, something expressing admiration for Western civilization of Japanese who were still pure.

ジャンボが二人分働く(だろう)しな/働く(だろう)しね

how about this?

>>71716151

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDsPg0qMlzo

>>71715835


>>71716002
>>71716128
These are both wrong.

しな here is just a shortened phrase implying しなきゃ,(as in the "must do" form of します) which completes the idea of him "having to do" work for two people. Without that, the sentence lacks a verb, and would just be "Jumbo two people's share of work."

>>71716309
Why Japanese People

In romaji how do you say traps aren't gay?

>>71716309
Stop
>>71716456
He's lying to you.
しな is just the particles し and な in succession.

>>71716309
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>71716128
>>71716309
I wonder, what's meant by "work for two people"?
For me it sounds like "work to help two people" or "work to please two people"

二人分働く=二人分の仕事をする=人の二倍仕事をする

So, doesn't it go to be something like "work twice as much as a normal person"?

>>71716473
omedetou, shinji-kun

>>71716309
恥ずかしくないの?

>>71716530
"Work for two people" means "the amount of work two people would (normally) do"

>>71716970
not really, you'd say the work of two people

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Can anyone help me with what she's saying here?

>>71717212
>the work of two people
Not him. I don't think I've ever heard it like that. It's always "work for two people"

>おまえみたいに行き遅れたらどにもならんしな
How rude is saying this to someone who haven't married yet? What is it assuming anyway?

it's nothing compared to "unsold stuff" or "used stuff". still, don't blame me even if one of single women stabbed you.

>>71717717
>all these 7-1s
please delete this post

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>>71717862

アラサだし。

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>>71717862
I can't see any problem

For stuff like ”りょうりをするのが下手です” and ”りょうりをするのがきらいです” is the ”を” needed or can I drop it from both?

>>71716970
>>71717212
>>71717492
Thank you, minasan.
So, "work for two people" means 二人分の仕事
1つ賢くなりました。

>>71711045
What college?

>>71715835
Probably this person wanted a one more person for his work. However, he failed. Then, he tried to persuade himself by two reasons. (As >>71716128 says, the "し" expresses something parallel, the "な" is one kind of emotional emphasis. )

まあ、いいか、Oh, it's OK anyways, (I gave up another person. = reason 1)
ジャンボが二人分働くだろうしな、Jumbo will do work for two people. ( so that I can manage my work. = reason 2)

>>71718422
p-please help me too >>71717530

>>71718422
Ah, I kind of understand now. Wasn't な a manlier version of ね though? Shouldn't that mean it asks for confirmation, not emphasis?

くつをかいましたばよかった

Am I using this right?

>>71718782
hello, you really should read japanese the manga way, it's quite good and has a complete section regarding things like this

>>71718293
anyone?

>>71718855
Oh, I have that one downloaded, haven't read it much though, always used Tae Kim. Thanks for the advice anyway. Which section are you referring to?

>>71719022
opening it now would crash my computer hue, but i'm sure it is right at the beginning bro

there's also the summary too, it's listed there

>>71712955
murakami ryu. he seems either loved or hated. 限りなく透明に近いブルー is quite disgusting but fascinating. it's very dialogue-heavy though (and many, many non-joyo kanji) so a difficult read. it has been translated into english (almost transparent blue). i started reading メランコリア yesterday and at first i was a bit annoyed with his 白人コンプレックス (evident in other books too), but soon i was almost magically drawn in.

>>71712955
You don't hate it. You are just an outsider who can't understand it

>tfw saw someone use おれ today
>tfw /djt/ doesn't joke about it anymore

>>71718484
very rude in two meanings.

1.
These words are usually used for women.
"行き遅れる” means "嫁に行き遅れる”.
If you use "嫁に行く” instead of "結婚する”, you would be regarded as a person who have an idea that a woman is someone who is chosen by a man and is taken to his house as one of his family members.

2.
Then, " 行き遅れる” has a nuance of "行きたいけれど行けない". That means "though she wants to marry, she doesn't deserve to marry" or "no man chooses her".

So these words are very rude because these include both slight for the woman whole and slights for the individual.

It is OK as far as a woman says about oneself. But when a man uses it for a woman, please prepare for not getting even GIRI-CHOKO on Valentine Day.

>>71719877
We have already transcended.
我が is the new standard, 某 is used by former bokufags.

>>71717530
どうにもならん=no way
し=again
な=isn't it ?

>>71718782
yes.
you are right.

>>71717448
I don't want to go through life with a wrinkled brow.
In other words, I don't want to go through life worrying or being displeased (with something).

>>71718833
かえばよかった

>>71718833
くつを かえば よかった
くつを かったら よかった

くつを かいましたら よかった ←awkward
くつを おかいになりましたら よろしかったのに

>>71720663
ごめんリロってなかった

>>71718293
>>71718870
either are OK
We often attach a noun and an auxiliary verb and use it like a verb.

りょうり+を+する
Noun + particle + verb

りょうり+する
Noun + auxiliary verb

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Is rosetta stone worth a download?

I want to practice speaking and listening. Looking for something repetitive.

>>71721108
>I want to practice speaking and listening.
We're here for you. Or some people are.

>>71721150
No. Are those people going to be on at my convenience? Anytime I want to practice, are they going to be available? Also I'm starting from nearly scratch.

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>>71721150
That came off super dicky btw. sry. I'm just frustrated cause I can't get an answer.

All I want in Anki with voice (speaking to me and speaking to it). Here's this word, it's pronunciation, it's kana, and maybe used in a sentence. Then I can repeat it back. That's all. Why is this so difficult to find? Am I retarded?

Personally. I learn best through repetition and memorizing.

>tfw not a neet anymore and don't have unlimited time to study
I'm already forgetting grammar.

>>71723158
thats why you never go full wageslave and just grab a part timer you hide from centerlink

step it up fampai

If there are more than four kana in a row
I just don't read it
I just skip to the next available kanji

Japanese should be all kanji desu

>>71723648
That's what Japs do when they read quickly apparently, just scan for kanji and infer the grammar.

>>71723648
china man detected

>>71723793
nope

If you don't prefer kanji to kana, your a brainlet sorry

>>71723648
なにそれ、まぁそういうことはわかるけど

does this just show up as " "

So
学 = academic
生 = life
学生 = academic life/ student.

Did I technically learn 2 kanjis or 3? when you get 2 kanjis to come up with a new word, does that count as one?

>>71723906
>tfw to intelligent too like easy writing systems

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>>71711551
>What if he goes to /djt/

>>71724312
sorry if this was confusing

So if I combine two individual kanjis to form a new word (i.e student) does that count as another kanji itself?

>>71725231
You just form a new (compound) word. You don't form another kanji doing that as you don't form a new letter combining "I" and "T" forming "it"

>>71725295
I see, so 学生 doesn't count in the 2500+ kanjis I have to learn, right?

>>71724312
2 kanjis

Multiple words
生 (Nama) raw
生きる (Ikiru) to live
生まれ (Umareru) being born
学 (Gaku) study
学生
...

Learn about the on and kun readings

>>71725310
Technically, yeah. But 学 and 生, you have to learn it individually.

>>71725386
>>71725403
thanks lads!

I want past JLPT tests to practice.
Where can I find tests from previous years? The links are constantly being taken down.

>>71725386
>>71725420
To expand on my post.
Kanji actually aren't 'words', they're more like letters that make up a word.

Sure there are some single kanji words (like 生) but that's not always the case.

Their reading depends on how they're used. Namely the 'onyoumi' and 'kunyoumi'. And each kanji often has multiple on and kun readings.


Normally you only use the onyoumi for compound words without any kana. However this is incredibly irregular.

And then there are tbe hundreds of exceptions.

Eg. 食
On reading: shoku
Kun reading tabe
Irregular reading: ku

The most common and 'easiest' ones usually have the most exceptions.

The whole writing system is an absolute fucking mess.

>>71723158
I know that feel.
Started working full-time last week.

However, while I study less each time I study, I do consistently study every day now.

>>71725646
Thank you for that.

How do I approach kanji? Do I study one learn all of its Onyomi and Kunyomi and how they fit into context? or do I learn that along the way when confronted with said Kanji in a sentence?

I mean what would be more efficient?

>>71724312
Technically, you learned two compound-radicals and one compound-compound-radical.

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>>71711960
>>71712352
>[そうしてもstudent dにはあいつが誰だと分かっていないはずだ
Even if it were so, student d could not know who that guy was、I guess.
>>71712706
>そうだとしてもあいつが誰だかstudent dには分からないはず
正解
>これだけの情報があれば分かると思います
*これくらいの(この程度の)
>>71712746
Shut up, Korean
>>71713338
関東ではバカ、関西ではアホです
関西人は、アホは許容できますが、バカと言われれば怒ります。
関東では逆です
if you want know more, come to JP
>>71713767
本当に
ただ、このスレの住人は、日本語同様に日本についても理解できない
>>71714152
たまたま、金正男暗殺のニュースを聞いたのだろう
>>71698816
He finally started to recover
彼は最終的に回復し始めた。
し;サ変動詞連用形の活用語尾
>>71715365
I think someone gossiped about you
>>71715666
*女性の股間に普通「は」ない膨らみのある可愛い少女です。
この「は」は、対比の「は」。入れた方が語調が良い。

>want to study at work
>can't ever concentrate because they play music constantly
>brain dead plebs don't even listen to it, they just want noise in the background
Fucking mind pollution is what it is.

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>>71715835
>>71716002
>>71716309
>>71716456
>>71716456
まぁいいか、ジャンボが二人分働くしな=まぁいいか、ジャンボが二人分働くし→まぁ、ジャンボが二人分働くので、気にしない。;Well, I do not care because the jumbo works for two people.
「し」は、サ変動詞の連用形語尾、「な」は終助詞
文法的には、連用止めの倒置形
>>71718833
靴を買ったのでよかった。I'm happy because I bought shoes.
靴を買えたことはよかった。It was good that I bought shoes.

>>71727366
*Well, I do not care because Jumbo works for two people.
たぶん、Jumboは固有名詞

>>71726963
>what are earplugs?

>>71726963
what do you do for work?

>>71726102
Personally I use the wanikani anki deck.

They only teach you one reading per kanji (usually the on) and you learn the others through vocab.

>>71726963
>study at work
You should be working at wor
Also, if you can't mentally blockout noise, you're a brainlet

So I have to take some side courses for my degree and I figured I'd just take japanese because it's probably free points anyway.
But now I still have some points left I need to fill and I don't know what to take. Would you advise for or against a basic chinese class? I'm also mildly interested in those other moon languages but I fear I might get confused by different pronunciations and meanings.

>>71726890
>>71727366
Please stop posting in these threads, pantuya, and stop ban evading.

>>71727883
Retail maintenance.

>>71728167
How strong is your Japanese? If it's rather beginner level, doing a 普通话 class can introduce confusion if your understanding of the basics of Japanese are still forming.
Here are some thoughts and experiences on the subject of learning multiple languages at the same time, from Steve Kaufmann:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQy2ZaFGEXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VIZAR2_o8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11vCm1991mk

He is a bit of a dork but very experienced with languages and pretty humble and unpretentious about his stuff, which can be enjoyable to listen to.

>>71728020
I can block out noise, I can even block or screaming children, but music I can't ignore. It just gets stick in my head.

>>71728421
Do they play commercial radio? After a while that shit starts to make me feel fucking nauseous, don't know why.
Random music in the workplace is kind of annoying in my opinion.

>>71728487
I wish. They've been playing the same damn play list of mostly 70s pop songs for the last 18 months.

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>>71728524
oh lord have mercy on your soul

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>>71728524
That's still commercial shit to me: a barrage of pop songs with annoying advertisements spliced between.
On the subject, not long ago I was listening to some random radio station in 岐阜、via Internet radio and they were playing non-stop western pop songs from the 80s.

>>71725422
Anyone?

>>71728171
Do not obstruct posting the right things.
Only you might be stupid

>>71728828
Did you try Jcat?

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>>71728841
wew, that English.

>>71728951
Pantuya is a gaijin living in Japan who pretends to be Japanese. He is a pervert who used to post photos of his daughter online. Also a serial ban evader.

>>71728853
No.
I don't know about this stuff. I just want to practice for N3.

>>71728988
Try Jcat.

>>71728981
He has an hafu daughter?
>>71728988
What about these
yuki-nezumi.blogspot
.se/2013/04/jlpt-moshi-to-taisaku-n3.html

>>71728988
There are some older papers here:
Pastebin because something about the post hits the spam filter. Odd.

http://pastebin.com/A4UvJDzK

>>71728981
So you're saying he's just pretending his English is shit to make it seem like he's a nip? That'd be pretty damn autistic.

>>71729398
More or less. You have no idea, but you probably don't want to know. He's pretty infamous and I'm sure anons in the other Japanese thread would be happy to tell you all about it. I feel bad for responding to him because he is one of those types who are better off ignored.
Don't mean to sound rude but would you mind if I left it at that? I shouldn't have brought drama into this thread in the first place.

>>71729026
I registered, but I didn't want to give my real name. I did the sample question, but it refused to show my answers, kek.

>>71729152
Thank you, this is exactly what I needed. I heard there were official books containing material from past tests and this seems like it at first glance.

>>71729193
The first link was useful, thank you.
I found the second link myself too, but I have a distaste for messy chinese sites and had a hard time extracting useful information from it.
I knew about the 3rd and 4th links beforehand too. The 3rd is just an extended rip of the official sample questions which can be found on the jlpt site while the 4th contains a lot of outdated stuff I didn't want to bother with unless there weren't newer material around.

Please translate

男の娘としては好きだぞ

ホモが生まれる動画

こいつにもナニがあるんだよなぁ

>>71730227
Stop watching gay porn, son.

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>>71730197
>I registered, but I didn't want to give my real name. I did the sample question, but it refused to show my answers, kek.

Reviews reseted 1 hour earlier (fuck DST) so I fiddled with the settings, pushing it one hour forward.

But now instead of 13 or so cards, I have 20 new ones waiting for me.

Fuck this gay software.

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>>71730197
There are a bunch of textbooks for N levels, in the CoR as well:
https://mega.nz/#F!AZJFBRSA!iGEeELlrbTiA61_LIKKZIA
https://mega.nz/#F!jVNGwKKa!pUIEn073HgNisxM2HsEY-Q
https://mega.nz/#F!2N9k0SpC!OUr1gBeGYIPaeOokjgnYEQ

>>71730445
>user error
>somehow the programs fault

>>71730445
You shouldn't be doing your reviews an hour before reset 先輩

pls help

Is anki supposed to take longer and longer to do as time goes on? It used to take me almost exactly an hour every day, and as of this last week it's been taking 90 minutes every day.

>>71731260
If you have more cards due each day then yes it will take longer.

>>71731366
Is there any way to keep it from becoming unmanageable? Should I just turn down new cards for a while?

>>71731412
Yeah that's the easiest way also this plug-in might help if you're seeing certain days are longer than others https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1417170896

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>>71731488
Thanks a ton my man. My load is really consistent right now, about 250 reviews a day, but I'll keep that plugin in mind.

>>71730227
i love her as a Tom girl
it's the movie which causes gays
it is a Dick that she also has!

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>>71730227
T R A P S R G A Y
R
A
P
S

R

G
A
Y

>>71730986
>user error
No, I had already set it up to compensate for DST, but Anki, while using my clock in the settings panel, has an internal clock of some sort that decides when DST is over, always on a separate date from reality. So, without notice, it pushes the time 1 hour back/forward when its servers think it's time to.

Screw that, learned 25 cards today instead of 20. May hell come my way.

>>71728951
I understood it just fine, though

>>71732032
Why are you doing your reps right before it resets?
Why isn't your reset time set in middle of when you are sleeping?

Still sounds like user error

>>71732178
This. The latest I've ever had to do reps was about one in the morning, but I still have the reset time set to about 6 AM, just in case I really screw up someday and need to start them at 4 AM.

>>71730445
it's not that big of a deal, like at all

こんにちは
「変な力」って一体なんですか?

>>71732032
I wish I was still doing one deck of vocabulary a day and not four.

>tfw Anki takes literal hours if i'm not focused

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>>71732485
I'm the same way. It helps me a lot if I get rid of physical distractions and remember to look at the big picture.

Have any of you used the Japanese for Dummies book? What did you think?

It though it is actually pretty good, in fact one of the better books available, for beginners yet I never see it mentioned.
Likewise the Chinese for Dummies book is also good if you're interested in that, but the Korean for Dummies book is pretty bad and should be avoided.

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>>71732178
>>71732252
My circadian cycle lies somewhere between 26 and 28 hours, I sleep an average of 8:40 h a (24h) day and I work from home, so I have no routine whatsoever.

I do it one hour before reset because I currently have some sleep debt and I try to sleep as much as I can while still managing to do my reps daily.
I am waiting for the day of the week/forthnight when I manage to go to bed earlier and wake up several hours before the reset, so I can start climbing this madness hill again.

>tfw you finally have conversations with your Japanese and realize just how clunky it is
I guess I'm not as good as I thought I was
Perhaps /djt/ has always been that way though with barely passing their JLPT

>>71732675
Speaking and listening is really hard, being able to do that to a full extent is basically fluency for all intents and purposes. Don't think of it as an obstacle so much as a literal endgame for now.

And honestly it's impossible to practice those things without having Japanese peers who will listen and speak to you. In Florida, that's the case unless I'm really assertive about looking for others. It's pretty much the reason why immersion is great; you to speak and listen.

how to learn lanaguages which use a different alphabet?

learn the words in the different alphabet

or learn the pronunciation in english and then write them on that language?

>>71732824
This sounds a lot like should I learn romaji, and the answer is no you should not learn with romaji.

>>71732912
im learning persian/farsi

>>71732675
understanding and speaking a language really are different things, just because you understand a language doesn't mean that you can speak it

the only thing that helps is practice

>>71732824
Learn the words in the target script, but the meanings in whatever language you're the most comfortable with. Then later down the line when you've become good, you switch to a dictionary in the target language to learn the details.

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>tfw I woke up early today and got my reps done before leaving for classes

feels good man

>>71732405
I'm really not sure, but after googling it I'd say it's some kind of a synonym for having special interests/abilities thus a powerlevel of some sort... just my impression though, I coulsn't find a definition or something

>>71733143
That's what I do, go to sleep at like 9 or 10 then do reps at around 4 or 5

Japanese friends, at what reading level would you say this novel is?

http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/001030/files/4803_14204.html

>>71733264
Tell some more about your routine. Was thinking of trying the same.

>>71732803
Good thing you're here to be my Japanese peers am I right?

>>71732971
Definitely. I'm going to work more on this. It almost feels like saying you don't truly know Japanese if you can't speak it.

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>>71733496
The four skills of reading, listening, writing, and speaking ought to be viewed in that order, because each one feeds the next. You can’t say what you don’t know, and reading is much easier to learn words from than listening.

If you do extensive reading, the large quantity of exposure helps the learner to think in the target language, which in turn improves output abilities.

http://www.robwaring.org/er/what_and_why/er_is_vital.htm

Also see language learning myths: “The best way to learn a foreign language is to speak it”
http://www.antimoon.com/other/myths-speaking.htm

>>71733496
it often feels like as if understanding and speaking go through different connections in your brain
you can see it with exchange students that use "like" all the time, or when I had to give presentations in english

there are just some words that you would instantly recognize when reading them, but you couldn't use them in actual speech even if your life depended on it because this connection is just missing/not established yet

Is there a deck for verbs that has the stem form and all the conjugations and holds back the conjugations until after you've learnt the stem form (is that possible in anki)?
Having to remember the rules is one thing but I reckon most Japanese kids learn them by rote and I'd like to give that a try.

In a bit of a pickle, but not the good kind. Would love a bit of help.
The other day I uploaded a couple of LN rips for an anon, in epub and zip format (the zip is the same contents of the epub). They can be easily opened and read in Firefox but the problem is that rikaisama highlights words but doesn't provide a pop-up for anything. I feel kind of like a dick because unless the anon is aware that he can extract the zip and read the LN via individual xhtml files, which do work fine with rikai, he is probably going to have to manually look up every unknown word he comes across.
Does anyone know how to get rikaisama working with epubs in firefox?

Sorry NZbru.


>>71733743
Sort of, in a way:
https://mega.nz/#!BVxVxCYJ!TxjoWahUsWEGm5SDhHEYQQfCb-2088X5SdrVmF_0HJY

>>71733353
If you are interested in this novel, give it a shot. Try to read at least some 20-30 pages (or something similar) and then decide if it is too hard, too boring or whatsoever. Don't look for excuses and ask before you even started if it is too hard for you. You can do it if you don't give up. But if you never start you will never accomplish anything.
I read a bit of it, sounds like native stuff. Which is good, it will help you improve quite a bit.

>>71733631
Where does listening come in helping writing?
I for one find every skill feeds each other, speaking helps to reinforce listened/read patterns and that will help me recalling set expressions when writing, for instance.

But yeah, reading and speaking are definitely the most basic and most advanced skills.

Funny thing: I can speak and write some pretty okay French, but I can't for the life of me understand when someone speaks its. Too contracted, just like when those nip businessmen start speaking and fuck up comprehension.

>>71733354
I have work part time from 6-10 some mornings and classes at 11 everyday and between classes do homework after classes, around 3-5, I do grammar study/reading and finish any homework I have to do for the day. Sometimes I have events and meetings for things later in the night and don't sleep till about midnight or 1 AM, in these cases I either do the reps earlier in the day between classes or whatever, or just suck it up and do them tired. The first option kinda sucks because I end up doing 2 sets of reps in 1 period of me being awake but I haven't really found a way to fix this without changing the reset time and the second option sucks because doing reps when tired is awful.

>>71733631
>you need to read the equivalent of 4 bibles before finding the word "relativity" 5 times.

What.

>>71714844
>>71714677
>>71714476
>>71711124
What the actual fuck?
We did Genki 1 and 2 the first year, and then we were shipped off to Japan and told to pass N3.
And it was easy.

How does one say you do something less than once over a time period?
I already know the pattern (period に frequency) and I think there is a modifier to make the "less than" statement.

>>71734689
Maybe not the mechanical aspects of writing but the flow of the spoken language can help in understanding the flow of how thought is structured in the language and in turn this sort of intimate familiarity can lead to a more natural paced writing style, depending on the type of writing.
You know how people will commonly tell you to read out something you have written to get a feel for how it reads? That sort of thing.

>>71735243
>and then we were shipped off to Japan and told to pass N3
How much time elapsed between arriving in Japan and passing N3?

>>71735243
I am calling bullshit in Genki having enough vocab and especially kanji to pass N3

>>71735530
Half a semester

>>71735578
Well, we used Intermediate Japanese I during our half semester before the N3 test in Japan, and wrote a lot of essays using dictionaries.
Also, kanji is a small part of N3, as far as I can remember.

>>71735578
>>71735677
Oh, and we also had 日本語総まとめ:文法 and 聴解 in Japan.

>>71735782
>>71735677
bruv...

>>71735829
That was just a couple of months, though?

>>71735855
Well the time it took isn't as important as the amount of content you went through during it. If you did a lot of that textbook and sou matome n3 you can't say you passed n3 on genki alone

>>71735948
Well, during the whole semester (including the time AFTER N3) we didn't get half-way through either of these books:
>>71735782
>>71735677

So, basically, we did it with Genki 1 and 2 knowledge, plus some basic introduction into more advanced stuff.

>>71733264
I'm >>71733143

Yeah, it feels really good to have them done right away. For the past 6 months I've been doing them in the afternoon/evening, but I could see this being a huge boost to my productivity.

When writing how important is it to differentiate between 儿 and ハ I know in some kanji it might make a differences but is it wrong enough to fix when my 儿's look more like ハ's?

What's the difference between adj + の and adj + さ?

How are you supposed to learn with Anki?
I dont write anything dont, but I think Im probably only going to be able to recall and not write anything
Is starting a vocabulary booklet a good idea?

Okay I'm only on adjectives of tae Kim and I'm already getting lost.

What to do

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>>71734035
I've finished volume 3, I've been reading it using Gitden Reader on my phone. It's every bit as amazing as I expected, literally the 2nd best LN ever made, thanks again.

And yeah that's really not a problem, I'm not a beginner, nor is this the kind of work you'd want to read while looking up every second word. You'd want to properly appreciate the beautiful prose and emotionally powerful writing.

>>71739959
some specific problem?

adding only 30 new words a day on anki I've fallen a bit behind in the last week. Tomorrow I'll have 500 cards to do, and if I were to do them all they would probably result in 1500-2000 reviews with my shitty retention. At 12 cards per minute, that's almost 3 hours.

Do you think it's better to power trough it tomorrow or recover over a week?

>>71741057
Do as much as you can until you feel your concentration and performance dropping and then stop for the day, alternatively it might work to get to that point then stop for a couple hours and come back to it with renewed concentration. Anki is only effective for a limited amount of time.

>>71741057
How far are you in?

>>71741277
you mean how many cards I have? 1800. Barely just started.

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>>71710617
Yooooo Shiba! Check your email, you still around on these threads?

im getting overhelmed by amount of anki cards which makes it harder for me to remember anything
should i give up on new cards and just focus on previous ones? or try to keep up with ankis tempo?

>山寺の小僧 谷川に行て
>あづきを洗ひ居たりしを
>同宿の坊主意趣ありて
>谷川へつき落しけるが 岩にうたれて死したり
>それよりして彼小僧の霊魂おりゝ出て小豆をあらひ
>泣つ笑ひつなす事になんありし
Can anyone explain what the しを and なんありし parts are?

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I happen to have a laptop with a japanese keyboard, and I find extremely difficult to type using the kanas in each key. But the layout makes no sense at all, for me at least, and apparently is arranged in somewhat order, like the QWERTY layout. So, this brings out my curiosity.

Do japs type everything in romanji? If not, how do they get used to type in this things following the layout?

>>71742916
>If not, how do they get used to type in this things following the layout
i dont know man maybe because theyve always been using it lmao
its like asking how could someone get used to typing with qwerty layout

>>71742563
I lapsed for a month and a bit and had 300 cards to get through and had forgotten most of the kanji, so I've set new cards to 0 and am spending the week just doing reviews. Getting back into it was actually surprisingly easy, so it may be worth giving up new cards for a bit and focusing on really learning what you've already got.

>>71742916
Most type in romaji, kana input is usually used by older people. If you want to get used to typing with kana input I found a typing exercise program for it I can link.

I use kana input because in english I use Dvorak (I'm probably going to get judged for this) so typing in romaji input is kinda hard when it takes qwerty and my fingers are used to dvorak.

>>71743116
>If you want to get used to typing with kana input I found a typing exercise program for it I can link.
Why not, at least to see how they do it.

>>71743116
>I use kana input because in english I use Dvorak (I'm probably going to get judged for this) so typing in romaji input is kinda hard when it takes qwerty and my fingers are used to dvorak.
I'm using some shitty French keyboard layout and I can type without the software switching back to Qwerty.

>>71742916
They type in romaji and learn romanization wrong because of this.

So konitiha, tuduku, sindeiru, mettyakuttya, mazidesuka...

When on phones they can use another input method based on less buttons and directional gestures, although many just suck it up and use a regular QWERTY touch keyboard like in the West..

>>71743863
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~BG8J-IMMR/
The file is called MIKAKANA.LZH

>>71743107
>>71742563

>300 cards
babby tier
I do that every day in 30 minutes

stop making shitty cards and falling for the X a day in Anki meme and add at your own pace and you wont have a deck of shitty leeches

>>71744263
My keyboard is a qwerty keyboard and I use Windows to change the input mode to a Dvorak layout. When I change the input mode to my IME it uses the keyboards direct input which is qwerty unless I specify kana input.

So far I've found no settings in the IME to use romaji input+Dvorak layout.

>>71744491
Some of us have just started recently. I'm also using core 6k, not making my own yet.

>>71744491
When you're first starting out and almost every kanji is a struggle, learning vocab is sort of like pulling teeth.

Don't forget that having previous / related knowledge of readings and radicals helps a ton.

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So I'm an American who is planning to spend about 3-6 months in Japan at a Japanese language school learning Japanese, anyway they suggested I at least learn Hiragana and Katakana which would help immensely, and was wondering if anyone knows any reputable study materials I could use, like perhaps a good textbook, or just book in general?

Thanks

PS: Sorry I didn't write this in Japanese, seems like most people in this thread are writing in Japanese..

>>71744778
Yes.
https://youtu.be/oZEA54VJEdE
Ill-repute though it may be

>>71744532
On Linux, the IME use your last active layout and doesn't give a fuck about your keyboard, so you don't even need to mess with the settings.

http://rtkwiki.koohii.com/wiki/Using_the_IME_in_Windows
This should work.

>>71745059
Oh shit, thanks man I actually just use Linux on my laptop with windows on my desktop but have never needed to type Japanese on my laptop. The reasons I should switch to Linux on my desktop seem to grow more and more everyday...

>>71744778
As much as it's a terrible resource in general I found the hiragana section of textfugu was surprisingly good, especially in regards to pronunciation and the r sound. This is also in the free section so if you use it don't worry about the bullshit $100 they charge for the full course.

>>71745346
>bullshit $100 they charge for the full course.

It's funny because I know of at least TWO really good textbooks/books in general for beginner Japanese that you can both for roughly $30 or so and they're both reputable and have tons of positive reviews from people who purchased/used them. Kind of sad some places charge $100 for a language program, and it's one thing if you're paying a lot of money to learn it in a formal setting at a university/school. Obviously that's more expensive but you're getting a formalized course from a professional instructor who speaks fluent Japanese.

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bonjour

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>>71744778
>seems like most people in this thread are writing in Japanese..
How to spot the retarded copypasting shit from the Japanese Thread.

>>71745712
>une feuille
hon hon hon

>>71745446
I could almost understand if it was actually a good and comprehensive resource, but last time I checked it doesn't even cover half of what tae kim does and what it does it covers in an elongated retarded way. A lot of the lessons in it aren't even about japanese but about keeping motivated or debating whether you should tell your friends you are learning Japanese. Keeping motivated is important but not worth near the amount of time textfugu gives it.

>>71742601
>を
接続助詞
《接続》活用語の連体形に付く。まれに体言に付く。
〔順接の確定条件〕…ので。…から。

>なんありし
>some websites suggest ~ことになった or ことになりました
>なん and なむ are different spellings but the same word like color and colour
>なむありし
>なむ is 強調の係助詞 in this case
>on top of that it works as 係り結び
>係り結び forces to inflect conjugated form in the end of sentence
>し is originally 過去の助動詞 「き」. し is its 連体形, not 終止形 as it should be. this is how 係り結び works.

to be honest I can't into old words for shit. I was sleeping in its grammer class

>>71746797
Thanks!
>some websites suggest ~ことになった or ことになりました
That's what I guessed as well, but I don't why it's ある then.

>>71739007
It means the difference between 見 and 貝, just to name one example. So yes, you should write it properly.

>>71747067
don't know*

>>71747067
I guess ありき means あった/ありました. In English, they are like THERE WAS something like an event/something like an event happened./had(experienced) something etc

>>71746374
>tfw every friend you told to learn Japanese was too lazy to even learn hiragana much less katakana and kanji

ねdjt友達はどう会う

>>71746797
>>71742601
that is ancient writings, so we don't learn it as common national language grammar.

>>71752031
What do you learn?

>>71750782
普通は一緒に面白くて社会に認められている動作などするの為に、少なくとも二つの個人は同じ場所で会うということだ

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>>71750306
Heh, I feed off the flesh of the fallen.

On just the last 15 months I've had:
- Friend who got me into French, but quit in 2 weeks while I kept going;
- Friend who got hyped by me learning French and started German, dropped in a day;
- Aunt who dropped English after 1 week;
- Brother who dropped Spanish in 3 days;
- 5 friends who dropped or are stalled in Japanese, including a language major majoring in Japanese.

One of the Japanese learning friends did several hundred cards on Core, but felt like restarting after a 2-month hiatus. Then he went as far as finishing Core2k, but lost it all when formatting his PC.
He's the only one who's excused for his dekinainess.

I wonder how difficult it is to write an instruction manual in Japanese. Would it be N1 level? Like for example cooking recipes or using a tool.

>>71753680
>Heh, I feed off the flesh of the fallen.
It's rather depressing for me really, 2 friends of mine don't even understand easy English, they hate learning other languages, they don't give a fuck and I just annoy them when I talk about Japanese.

One other friend kinda encourages me to go on, but I'm kinda jelly cause his passion is programming, he learns more stuff and has fun doing it while he also increases his chances of getting a good job by doing what he likes, while I learn Japanese to play Japanese games and jerk it to Japanese eroge.

Job opportunity? Let's be honest maybe one out of 100 anons will actually score a job in Japan.

It's just depressing to spend sooo much time on learning Japanese, when no one else around you gives a flying fuck, even worse if anyone gives a fuck they'll be like "anon can you read this?" and of course whatever Japanese text they show you will have words you never saw and you'll fail and they'll be like "anon you are learning for 1 1/2 years and you can't read this?"

Don't get me wrong, I love learning Japanese and I definitely won't give up but still...
I mean it's not easy, so much time and effort is needed to keep going and eventually reach the goal, I just wish someone would appreciate it sometimes.

Other hobbies make you fit (sports) or increase your job opportunities (coding) Japanese on the other hand is just a niche as fuck hobby for nerds, at least here in Germany, you can't even buy any Japanese learning books in stores, there is simply no one learning Japanese.
Same for job opportunities, there is no need for Japanese speaking people here.

Sorry for the blogpost.

I'm struggling to understand one line of a conversation.

>再会してから連絡とかしたの?
>してません。 いいようでてからおいちるも <ー なんだこれ???
>そうなの?
>良いんの決まりなんです。

The line's audio:
http://www45.zippyshare.com/v/UYReOmQW/file.html

Any ideas?

>>71754544
Are you me anon?

Especially this part.
>I mean it's not easy, so much time and effort is needed to keep going and eventually reach the goal, I just wish someone would appreciate it sometimes.
>I just wish someone would appreciate it sometimes.

>>71754424
You can't really use JLPT as a measure. You can ace N1 while being completely retarded when it comes to production, relatively speaking. That aside, the difficulty depends a lot on what kind of instruction manual you're talking about. If you're just writing a cooking recipe you'll post on some blog, then that's not going to be particularly hard if you just study a bit how they're normally written and learn the terms. If you're talking about a full-blown printed instruction manual for some product then that's probably going to be very demanding. If it's for something like a household appliance, I think it would probably be extremely difficult due to the formal style and technical terms you'd have to master.

>>71755034
◯を出てから一度も
With no context clues, I can't make out what ◯ is supposed to be, but it sounds like いん to me. Would perhaps 院を出てから一度も fit the context?

>>71755301
>◯を出てから一度も
Sorry, I mean ◯を出てからは一度も.

>>71754544
>even worse if anyone gives a fuck they'll be like "anon can you read this?" and of course whatever Japanese text they show you will have words you never saw and you'll fail
Holy shit, I definitely relate with this one. Also when I say I draw and people want caricatures. Or when I say I'm learning music theory and they ask me to play a song on the spot. I think pretty much anyone will go through this, though, so don't worry too much.

But hey, learning Japanese was an eye-opener to me - I had never tackled a subject actively like this before, forcing myself to do it for X hours every day and accomplish Y goals in Z months.
I feel like I can learn anything from now on if I'm able to set goals and go by chunks. Be it lifting, programming or having my own knitting empire!

If you want to learn programing, just do as you did with Japanese, set a programming time, a reading-books-on-programming time, etc. And just like you can't translate seemingly basic shit sometimes, you won't be able to program awesome stuff for a good while. It's part of the process.

You can do it, Fritz.

>>71755301
>Would perhaps 院を出てから一度も fit the context?
I think you're right about 院を出てから. That does fit this context very well. I'm not nearly as certain about いちども. I don't hear a ど at all but can't say for certain what it is. I feel like I'm going to settle on it being 落ちる since that's got so many meanings that I can make the translation fit pretty much any context that I want.

>>71754544
Well think of it this way. Judging from your flag, you’re trilingual (maybe more?) and that’s something many people aren’t. I get that learning Japanese is one of the most difficult languages to learn, and when people don’t seem to give a fuck, it’s kinda insulting to all the hard work you put into it. But I think other people don’t really get how much work you have to actually put into it and also they don’t understand why you would want to learn it in the first place.

The opinions of other people shouldn’t matter anyway. What your end goal for learning Japanese? That’s what matters in the end. For me, it’s was to go visit Japan and spar other Japanese people in Judo/Bjj. Now, I don’t necessarily need Japanese to do all that, but I wanted to learn another language so those things happened coincide (and also read anime and manga). Yours can just be “i want to learn Japanese so I can watch/read raws and fap”.

It’s not like the effort in learning Japanese will go to waste. You learn skills from it that you can apply elsewhere in your life like >>71755357
said. Skills and a language that you can keep forever if you keep at it.

>>71755592
>I'm not nearly as certain about いちども.
Wut. I'd say with like 99.9% certainty that she says 一度も. Fits perfectly as an answer to the question too.

>>71755675
After very carefully playing the audio back over and over again, I think I've found the ど you're hearing. It's very faint from being followed by like a simultaneous ち and a pant from the fact that she's currently exercising, but you've convinced me. ありがとう先輩

except the blank in which we are supposed to put 院, his answer is perfect. even I am not sure of 院. at first I thought that was 委員, however 委員から出る is obviously weird.

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Lets study hard today!

>>71755957
きょうはハードべんきょうしましょうですか

>>71755937
大学院のことを院って言うみたいに、何かの養成院とか矯正院とかを院って呼ぶ設定なのかもね

>>71755034
>>良いんの決まりなんです
これもたぶん「院の決まりなんです」なのではないかと

>>71756232
>これもたぶん「院の決まりなんです」なのではないかと
はい、その間違えがもう気付いた。

>>71755957
my 勉強 has been weak recent days. can't tell if it's 風邪 or 花粉. at least i have done my reviews for today.

>>71754544
N4を持ってて、在留ビザと就労ビザがあれば、結構仕事あるんだけどね。

外国人の英語教員を雇うのに、就労ビザを持っていることが必要って、順序逆じゃないかって思うんだけど

If you have N4↑, a residence visa and a working visa, there are work.
I wonder whether order is correct if the school require to have a working visa to foreigners who apply to the English teacher.

↓給食も食べられるw
http://www.city.urasoe.lg.jp/docs/2016120200167/file_contents/29.pdf#search=%27AET+%EF%BC%92%EF%BC%99%27
http://www.tsukubainfo.jp/jp/info/2016/1117_0938.html

>>71752121
ancient language and modern language have each different grammar.
though, both of them are things we shoud not learn only for memorization.

>>71756983
>"Hey, I finally know Japanese!"
>residence visa magically appears in my hands
It's not that simple, tomodachi.

おやすみ, DJT.

Wish me luck as I try to get my reps done early in the morning tomorrow.

>tfw you brain forgets for a couple seconds how to spell メニュー in english.

Honestly the Engrish meniyu makes more sense.

>>71759117
美女

>>71756476
>花粉
花粉症か、最低ですね
全部痒い

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6rb6kknj3A

おもしろい

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>>71759801
>that kimochi when わたしのあたまは大きすぎる、だからわかりません

>>71742601
全体の現代語訳は多分こんな感じ。

山寺の小僧が谷川に行って
小豆を洗っていたところ
同じ寺の坊主が(小僧に)恨みを持っていて
谷川へ突き落としたのだが岩に当たって死んでしまった
それよりその小僧の霊魂が度々出て小豆を洗い
泣いたり笑ったりしているという事であった

しを probably means したのを in 現代語.
I am not sure about なんありし