Japanese Thread / 日本語スレッド

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Ohayo~

>>69163169
*Previous Thread >>69133997
...sorry

>>69162601
>internet friend is not friend

this post still makes me mad a thread later. how can people this ignorant exist.

こんにちは

>>69163169
乙

>>69163194
おはよ~

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>>69163214
ah so...

white male + asian female = fetish and stereotypes
brown male + asian female = true love

>>69163266
As long as the black dudes take the Filipinos and Vietnamese, and leave the Japanese and Chinese for white dudes, then that's perfectly fine.

jannyを斬る

>>69163214
It really isn't though..

>>69163169
乙
なんだなんだ?両方消えたのかw

>>69163214
I'd argue that someone isn't your friend until you've gotten drunk with him or her.

>>69163169
乙

>>69163194
>>69163223
ohayo&こんにちは

>>69163332
are you the denmark faggot who works on a hotel?
had you detected any prostitution, escort activities on the hotel?

>>69163266
>>69163332
Why are you so eager to sexualize women of different race?
Have you grew up being sexually so repressed that you think having sex with women of your own race is like having sex with your own mother?

>>69163397
I have to throw out junkies and drunk guests with prostitutes on such a daily basis that I call myself half receptionist, half bouncer now.

So yes. Every time I go to work in the morning, I'm accosted by at least two prostitutes.

管理人死ねや白豚

>>69163356
You know people meet their future wives/husbands on the internet, right?

Like it has literally resulted in thousands of marriages all across the globe.

Friendship in and of itself is a much easier hurdle to reach.

管理人=ひろゆき…………
ひろゆき死ね←同意

ドーナツ食ってんじゃねーぞ糞管理人

こんな嘘ばかりのスレ取り消せ。
クソボケが 、アホクソボケカスが。
根性無しのカスの集まりが。
どうせ何もできんのやろが?
カスはカスらしく黙っとらんかい!クソボケ!
何なんじゃアホが。この根性無しのクズが。
クソボケクズ。クズの集まりじゃねえか。
ポンコツのクソドアホが。ボンクラだろがてめえら。
はっきり言っといてやるよ。 てめえらなんか、何一つ怖くないわ、
このクズ以下のポンコツボンクラが。

>>69163424
I just want to bang around the world.

I even considered getting a tattoo of the map of the world on my back, and fill in the color of every country I've banged a woman in.

>>69163211
Don’t worry

>>69163470
Just like a marriage where the couple doesn't see each other except over the internet couldn't be considered marriage,
a friendship not in grounded in reality can't be considered friendship.

Female have demand , male have no demand .
male's life is shit

>>69163497
That's gross honestly.
Why this obsession over such a trivial matter?

>>69163623
Why is it gross? Sex is a natural, healthy thing, and fun as hell. Traveling is also really fun. Girls are cute. It's a combination of all the best things in the world.

>>69163643
suite yourself.

>>69097124

>>69163679
m8 you've been rambling for days about getting laid with that Viet girl

Now is not the time to be a hypocrite. You've experienced first hand how awesome sex is. Now imagine doing that all across the globe with tonnes of different, interesting women.

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>>69163169
まだメリクリ
>>69162180 #
i think she is just a woman
there is such a kind of the women everywhere
But i like a woman
>>69162455 #
above
>>69163223
ちわっす
>>69163334
脳天直下 唐竹割りで

>>69163602
When will you realize that friendship is something that exists only in the heart, alongside something such as love?

You don't need a physical prescence to define that which you hold in your heart.

I think the Japanese think about it this way, too.

>>69163702
Don't confuse my flag with my person.
I am not the one you are thinking of.
There are more than a few germans regularly visiting the japanese thread.

>>69163748
Oh

My apologies then.

>>69163334
YOUがCANできるならDOしちゃいなよ

>>69163438
I guess eastern europe prostitutes are popular in denmak
but what about asian hookers?

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>>69163617
その代償が
肉穴
漢はつらいっすね
>>69163725
それを真顔で言うのは
中二病
>>69163748
コテつけて

>>69163694
>>>/out/

>>69163725
Ok, then am I friends with my waifu because I hold her in my heart?
Are we in love because I do love her?
As you can see, this definition leads to conflict with normal reason.
A relationship, whether friendship or marriage is a societal thing, just as the words defining them are grounded on the basis of society.
Now, what is the defining property of friendship then?
this is not my task to define,
but I do think that you will have to at least see a person sometimes in reality to consider yourself friends.

>>69163643
Life-long exclusive monogamy is a natural, healthy thing.
All other sexual activity is unnatural and unhealthy (and, what is more, morally and socially harmful).

Do you use voice chat option with steam?

>>69163872
So you think of friendship only as a social connection

You're wrong, because friendship is something that can be felt as well. It's a feeling, an emotion. And that emotion can carry over to internet relationships, too.

You must not spend a lot of time using social communication, it seems that way at least.

>>69163748
German koreaboo come to this thread every day
and he is really annoying us

>>69163643
at least, lacking ethical mind is barbaric

>>69163725
When will you realise that friendship is something that exists only in action, with real presence and deeds, just like love and virtue?

You don't need an ideal to define reality.

I think the Japanese think about it this way, too.

>>69163853
what's it like being a social reject in japan, davido-kun?

can't fucking wait until i'm in kyoto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSCWE7jqbGE

づひアひへ エら び へエくセ ヤレひくセ

>>69163944
are you the anon who asked about rpg's and the winter sale?

>>69163973
He has been annoyinng me for quite a while too.

>>69163957
It's nice that you think about it in such a way, but I disagree.

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>>69164000
If you keep taking the world at face value, you'll never appreciate the beauty of this world, friend.

>>69163944
When playing a game that doesn't have its own in-built voice-chat, or when I only want to talk to my friends and not other players, I use Steam's voice-chat.

何故なのか

>>69164025
If you keep obsessing over fanciful abstractions, you'll never appreciate the truth of this world, which is the real source of all beauty and goodness.

>>69164025
>you'll never appreciate the beauty of this world, friend.
Why?

>>69164051
Do you live your life on the side of "money rules over all else"?

You know, the side where you disregard friends, family, girls just to get a well-paying job?

I wonder if our mindsets on this matter depend on which side of the game of life we stand, the financial side or the social side.

>>69164013
it's not me.

>>69164029
thanks. I want to talk to other by VC. Do you have any recommendations?

>>69164083
No.

>>69164090
It depends on who you want to talk to, and why. Also I guess it's really up to you and the other person what platform you use - there's no reason you can't use Steam to talk to people.

>>69163812
I never see them on the street, but there's a lot of thai hookers in the massage parlors.

>>69163997
Explain to me why doing something fun and natural is unethical?

>>69164065
take the world at face value and you'll never take anything from it

if you look at a painting in the museum, do you just see a drawing, or do you try to discern what the painting is trying to represent?

Life is about intrepretation. Friendship is no different.

>>69164115
What does "No." mean? You stand on the social side?

That can't be true. If you actually were seeking success in the social department you'd understand the point I was making. At least you should.

>>69164171
>false dichotomies

なんでアルベルトって急に消えるの
猫みたいな奴だな

>>69164155
It is because no Christianity.

>>69164190
>thinking that's a false dichotomy

that's the proof your incompetence right there

>>69163497
>I even considered getting a tattoo of the map of the world on my back

just so you know, Here in Japan, people who have gotten a tattoo tend to be viewed as Yakuza or something by some Japanese, especially old ones, so if you are going to come to Japan, I recommend that you should be careful of not exposing it to others.

>>69164223
>everyone cares either about money or social life
>not both
>not neither
>not anything else
That is absolutely a false dichotomy.

>>69164271
All decent people abhor tattoos.
The problem in the West is rife indecency.

>>69164216
but there's almost no christians in nippon either

>>69164171
Everything you say is just an empty appeal to emotion.

If I look at an painting, I am seeing a drawing. (painting and drawing are just different words for the same thing after all)
This doesn't mean that I can't "try to discern what the painting represents".
In the first place I will have to see the drawing to discern anything from it.

Life may be about interpretation (or not), but that doesn't mean that other people have to accept your interpretation.

>>69164292
>painting and drawing are just different words for the same thing after all

That's not true
Paintings are done with paint
Drawings are done with pencil or pen

>>69164274
life only allows you to focus on one thing. either financial happiness or social happiness

if you're stupid enough to try to get both you won't reach either. i wish you the best of luck on that endeavor, my australian friend.

どうでもいい

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>>69164001
俺はディビッド君じゃないけど
漢(おとこ)は、口に出して言うのではなく
背中で語るものなのさ
それが美学だ

>>69164292
>Life may be about interpretation (or not), but that doesn't mean that other people have to accept your interpretation.

Yes, but if you discern a meaning from one painting and meet someone else that discerns the same meaning from that painting, that's a connection between you.

Friendship is about finding what connects you to the other person. If you just take the world at face value you will never find or appreciate such connections.

>>69164325
>all-or-nothing thinking
>obsession with some abstract state of "happiness"
>cannot focus on knowledge, mastery, power, etc.
Your philosophy is astoundingly childish.

In any event, back to the topic of friendship:
A man is what he does. There is no friendship (nor love, nor anything else) without real action. On-line interaction is a shoddy approximation of real action in the real world, and cannot ever serve as a proper substitute.

なんか日本も日本語すらも関係なくなっているみたい…

>>69164355
>>69164399
英語喋んな欧米

>>69164423
豪は欧米じゃないぞ

と言うか君も参加すればいいじゃないか
何か意見あるだろう

>>69164303
I see.

>>69164355
>that's a connection between you.
Or it isn't? Also, why do I have to meet him to have this connection? If I have to meet him, doesn't that mean you have to actually meet your internet-friends, for you to be real friends?
>Friendship is about finding what connects you to the other person.
Why? I don't think so. Also we aren't talking about what friendship is about, but what friendship is.
If you want me to at least acknowledge your definition, at least try to properly define it.
> If you just take the world at face value you will never find or appreciate such connections.
Again the same bullshit. Maybe not everyone is like you?
Maybe I can appreciate the world at "face value" whatever the hell that shit means.

You are basically throwing around empty words, and want me to agree with you on their basis.
But I disagree.

>>69164419
ネットの友達は本当の友達か

>tfw my package with Minna No Nihongo still travel from Vladivostok to another end of the country.
Living in the biggest country on Earth sucks

ネ友は真の友たりえるか?

わりとどうでもいい!

Why are literally all Australian flags like this?

>>69164484
The better question is why does anyone still respond to them

>>69164472
みんなの日本語は糞
日本への招待を勧める

>>69164484
>Why are literally all Australian flags always right?

>>69164484
僕は日本人だよ

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>>69163169

>>69164355
>>69164452
All of you here are my friends!
so make piece

>>69164437
なんやねんおまえ俺が英語喋れんのバカにしてんのか
もうええわテレビ見る

it depends on what you consider a friend tb h

i agree with the burger that it's possible to be friends with someone on the internet, but like ""real life"" i'd need a year of social contact with that person before that certain trust can start building.

>>69164452
It's really difficult to explain because it's something that developed naturally when you live life a certain way.

In the West, that is places like Germany, Europe, America, friendships aren't really that deep and so for your style of thinking it really isn't that far off the mark.

Asia's a bit different though with their honor code. The concept of friendship goes a bit into the self-awareness department that i'm trying to put into words for the past 10 posts or so but i'm finding it very hard to explain.

For now, we can agree to disagree.

When you argue with someone on here, there's a high chance he is a teenager.

>>69164419
日本旗&日本語の荒らしが来てたからしばらくlurkしていようと思ったら、うたた寝してたw
英文ずっと見てると眠くなるw

>>69164563
日本語でもいいけどな
まあ言いたいのは、
話がつまらない時や理解しにくい時は、他人を黙らせようとするのではなく、
自分がしたい話を勝手にするのが一番効果的だって事

>>69164587
>In the West ... friendships aren't really that deep
This is an entirely unreasonable generalisation.

>>69164607
This is something I tend to forget.
Thanks for reminding me.

There's different levels of friends imo

>people you know and get along with that you see out of routine (uni, work etc) but make no effort to contact outside of that
>people you make an effort to talk to, but only talk about non-personal stuff with
>people who you can talk personally with

This is a pretty simplified summary. Any of the above situations could count as "friends" even though there's largely different levels of closeness

>>69164687
They really aren't.

They used to be. But in the current milennial age, at least here in America, friendships are literally a joke

>"Hey let's get high"
>"Sure xDDD"

your friend probably forgot you exist the next day

Do you hug your friends or would they think you're gay if you try?

>>69164466
4chanへ来て感じたことは、オタクと変態は国境を越えるってことだなw
>>69164663
正論

>>69164741
It's still possible to have close friends who legitimately care about you, even though people like what you describe also exist

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>>69164741
pic. related it's you

>>69164733
Only the third type is a friend. The first two are just acquaintances.

>>69164811
>Only the third type is a friend. The first two are just acquaintances.
I agree with you in part, but people still refer to the first two as "friends" in real life

also is it just me or have (You)s been replaced with a dotted line?

>>69164783
But such relationships aren't the norm in the west, by any means. And even then, there are certain risks in trying to engage in such relationships in an individualist culture.

'tis the reason why our divorce rates in the west are 50% and higher, but the divorce rate in asia is sitting 20% and lower.

my argument is that it is indeed possible to achieve the kind of 'close friends that legitimately care about you' thing you just spoke of, it's possible for that to be the case online. no physical prescense is required.

>>69163497
うぇいるど

>>69164838
It's just (You)

>>69164838
Notably Japs will call bare acquaintances 友達, which flies in the face of yankee-doodle's claim about honoraburu Asiatics.

Just (You).

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>>69164914
>>69164926
this isn't funny guys
refresh the page and see what it looks like for (You)

おせちの注文はお済みですか

綿棒あったあああ!

>>69164926
He is also missing that not all Asian culture is the same.
In Southeast China friends are often thought of as people who can provide something for you.

>>69164955
No more (You)...

This is a stupid change because now Ctrl+F (Y won't work.

>>69164955
I did, and nothing changed.

>>69164926
pretty sure most would call their acquaintances 知り合い

>>69164845
>no physical presence is required.
By personal experience I'd say while it's not inherently required it certainly helps a lot with maintaining friends
I had friends that I went to school with, and didn't see physically outside of school days. After school finished, we didn't see each other in person anymore. We maintained contact for a few months but eventually drifted away. There were a few other contributing factors (one of them got a gf who he spends most of his time with) but in general I find that people prioritize the people they see in real life over those that they only contact online.

>>69165069
Well I want to tie this into japanese a little bit.

I'm learning japanese for the purpose of moving to japan, so I sort of have a motivation for trying to achieve the "deep friendship" i speak about, because i'm going to be relying on that as a bridge to japan in the future.

so far it seems to be working pretty well. So in a case like mine, the "physical prescense" isn't really an option, so i've had to develop my social skills such as that I can develop such social connections without being restrained by distance. I'm becoming quite good at it, actually.

I have noticed my other friendships start declining though, like you mentioned, but that's the tradeoff I guess.

>>69165062
I dunno m8, I've personally encountered plenty of people referring to others who I know aren't really their friends as 友達.

It's also common to use 友達 to refer to another person's friends. For example, a mother might say that one of her son's friends from school came around to drop off homework, even though the person is just a random classmate and not an actual friend.

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仕事納めた!
>>69164155
日本には、ウクライナからたくさんの娼婦が来ています
>>69164419
結構、楽しんで見てはいるが
議論に噛むつもりはない
ただ、安い人生哲学だなと
>>69164437
一つだけ
論題と直接の関係はないけど
女との「愛」とは異なる「友情」について
20代の頃は、その存在を信じた
30代になって、そんなものはないと思った
今は、あるかなと思う
どう思う?
人生のstageで答えは変わり得る
それは「現実」であろうが、「ネット」であろうが

>>69165182
Can you imagine your parents telling you an acquaintance of your came by to give you something? Parents say friend because they don't know intimate detail of his life so it's easier just say friend

>>69165173
So-called "deep friendship" develops over years of doing things together. Being together comes first, and friendship may follow later.

You don't establish a genuine connection with a stranger without spending time with them. After all, mannerisms, body language, personality, etc., are very important parts of socialisation that cannot be properly understood without face-to-face interaction.

>>69164955
>it's not a joke
おのれ、ヒロ~

>>69165069
isn't this more of a common point problem?
As in if you meet people in real life you might talk about whatever but you wouldn't message them with the same topic
At least that's my experience

>>69165254
>As in if you meet people in real life you might talk about whatever but you wouldn't message them with the same topic
This is probably part of it. Smalltalk doesn't really exist online in the same way it does in real life, because interactions with other people online are much more deliberate and feel like they need more of a purpose

>>69165301
>Smalltalk doesn't really exist online in the same way it does in real life

this this this

main reason why real life friends > online friends any day.

the feeling of just going to my friends room', sitting down talking about some bullshit and then walking away (even if the conversation hasnt ended yet.) is the best. so simple yet so fun.

安心でチュウ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocaumww0Qvs

>>69165413
そうだな

>>69165211
ある異性の人と長い間一緒に過ごすなら、愛情が生まれるではないか
そうでなければお見合い結婚のような伝統などはとても無理なはずだ

これを認めれば、同じように、
ある同性の人と長い間一緒に過ごすなら、友情が生まれるだろう

しかしその場の雰囲気による
同級生や部活の仲間は友達になる事は多いが、
比較的に同僚と友達になる事は少ないだろう
職場の公式的な感じで距離感が強いからかな
確かに個人の性格や態度にもよるからこんな場面だと友達は出来るか出来ないか、絶対的な事は言えない

要するに、
人生のステージによって友情は有り得るかどうかが変わると言うより、
人生のステージによって、他人との時間の過ごし方が変わるだけで、友情が生まれるかはそれに従うのだろう

説明はちょっと無茶苦茶だけど、分かるかな

>>69165253
yeah, it's the long game.

but it works online and i have the proof right here. a handwritten letter from an "internet friend".

anki or memrise.

I dwindled off anki for a good couple of months and felt like trying something new because I forgot everything.

but holy shit memrise feels slow.

>>69165620
forgot your image bud

>>69164974
実家に帰った時に食べる予定だから
伊達巻とチーズかまぼこ(好物)以外は買ってない。
アメちゃんちの新年はどんな感じ?

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パール兄弟 / ようこそ!ひとりぼっち
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4esndhJoyE0

>>69165211
横から嘴挟むけど、恋愛感情を挟まない男女間の友情って難しいと思う。
好意を抱いた相手を同性の友人とは違い、独占(付き合う)できると思うとそうしたくなってしまうから。
でも、一番気の合う友人兼、恋人にはなれると信じてる。
パンツ屋も嫁とはオタク仲間で楽しいって前に言ってたよね?

>>69164466
>ネットの友達は本当の友達か
SAOではふつうに恋人や友達になってたけどSFみたいなものだからな
現代の技術でリアルな関係築けるとは思えないけどな
ネトゲとかやらないから実際のところはわからないけど

>tfw ywn go to japan with your best bro and share a bed and go to onsen together

>>69166240
Gay?

>>69164271
It's not like anon would be filling in anything on that map to begin with so it wouldn't really be an issue.

>>69166254
I prefer the term poofter.

>>69166254
what was gay about that post?

>>69166365
>share a bed

>>69166412
haven't you ever slept in the same bed as a platonic friend?

>>69166428
hell no but it's another thing to >ywn at the thought of it battyboy

>>69166428
I did, but not out of desire to do so.
I would ultimately prefer to not share it.

>>69166462
>not share
we share everything together on this thread.
we are friends.
tell us.

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>>69166240
>>69166254
kek

>>69166505
gay

do you ever hug a friend of the same sex?

>>69166505
You misunderstood me.
The thing I am referring to when talking about sharing is the bed.
I did not wish to share the bed with my friend, but had to do it because other options were worse.

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>>69165608
言いたいことはわかるよ

ただ、例えば、僕の職場では女子の割合が高く
一種の「疑似恋愛」は、職場の潤滑剤だった
ところが、それが一瞬にして「不倫」に変わる
泥沼の不倫劇に

結局は女が職場を追われて自殺した

現実に於いては、恋愛と友情の選択は、右手を切るか左手を切るかというような堪え難い選択であるばかりではなく、命をも奪うこともある

そういう体験は、女とは「他人の関係」を保ち、一定の距離を保つことを教える
日本の大人の社会は、その距離感の上に立つ

寧ろ、肉体のないネットの方が純愛や友情を育めるかもしれないね

>>69166570
>other options were worse.
what were the other options?

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>>69166505
>we are friends.
と..友達..?

>>69166568
no.

>>69166599
またやるのかw

>>69166599
don't interrupt me when i'm talking to my friends.

>>69166616
why not?

>>69166568
yes but we hardly hug friends or family. not social custom

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>>69166656
that's not japanese.

>>69166680

なぜ?

(better?)

>>69166689
what are the purposes of hugging and why is hugging the only way to achieve them?

>>69166733
hugging feels nice
knowing that you have a close enough relationship with someone that they are comfortable with you wrapping your arms around them is nice

>>69166592
sleeping in a chair
sleeping on the floor
not sleeping at all

>>69166773
>sleeping on the floor
don't you want the traditional japanese experience?

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>>69166108
>>69166765
子供も当然のように「美術部」だけどね
娘と来季は何をみるべきと話せるのは嬉しいが
廻りと話が合わないとか
困った

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>>69166765
we bow.

>>69166789
Well, the futon wasn't that different from the floor in the end.

>>69166765
>>69166792
Sorry
i mistook the link

>>69166792
でも、親が自分の趣味に理解あるのって結構嬉しいと思うよ。

BSでセガールの死の標的放送してる

世界ネコ歩きﾊｼﾞﾏﾀ

>>69166108
>>69166982
>パンツ屋
>嫁
>親

>>69166820
別の人ここで、誰でもおれ触るのこと嫌いだ
握手も不潔です, お辞儀にはましと思う
悪い日本語はごめんね

once againanother morning on the toilet

>>69167116
well perhaps you should stop going to sleep there

>>69167086
仲の良い友達とはhugも握手もしたいけど、
初対面の人や嫌いな人とするのは辛そうだ。

Do you personally know any foreigners that were able to get Japanese citizenship?

>>69167077
this.
it's unbelievable that some people still believe that he has his wife and daughter in real life.

Keine (You)s für den Aljoscha mehr

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>japanese seinfeld

dang

can you imagine how much is lost in translation?

>>69167264
dann, schreib bitte auf Japanisch

>>69167285
I can't help but think they probably butchered it, but I'd love to watch a couple of episodes of it in Japanese for the heck of it.

(You) の件ですけど
4chanX を使っている人には(You)は普通に見えてるそうです

>>69167231 (あなた)
>Do you personally know any foreigners that were able to get Japanese citizenship?
I don't know anyone who'd even know japanese...

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>>69167285
references are lost, play on the language, but showing a void and timing is never lost

グテン・アーベンド~ (´・ω・｀)ﾉｼ
友情の議論なんては珍しいね、このスレには

とにかく、英語に関して質問を答えてみよう (｀・ω・´)

>>69167285
>>69167379
Oh shit, niconico has full episodes:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9935075

何が起きてんだ?
4chanXオフでレスがついたら変になるの?

ちょっとテストです

>>69167476
Guten Abendってドイツ語で「こんばんは」か
Guten Morgen(こんにちは) くらいしか知らなかった

>>69167535
自演でテストごめん

>>69167540
>guten morgen(こんにちは)
guten morgen(おはよう)*

>>69167506
(You)の代わりアンダーラインが「………」
のようになってるようです

>>69167660
へえー…バグですかねえ
4chanXをオフにしても自分の環境では何も起きませんでした

>>69167674
なんだそれ

>>69167503
>>69167445
>>69167379
stream when?

anyways, i dont know much about japanese culture but there are a japanese seinfeld would require tons of cultural context. i'm talking about paragraph translators note. but then again maybe i'm exaggerating.

honestly i would love to show a jap friend here or anywhere an episode of seinfeld in japanese and see if they have any questions/confusions.

>>69167693
4chanXをオフにしてからリフレッシュが必要かと…

>>69167674
風邪ひいた?

>>69167706
あれだよウンコ

>>69167476
こんばんは。質問お願いします!
「良いお年を」と今年中に言いたくて調べていたら色々みつけたんだけど
1. I wish you good luck for the next year!
2. With wishes that next year will be an even better one.
3.I hope the coming year will be filled with peace.
これらにはpolite度の違いはありますか?

>>69167476
オージー先生、ぐーてんあーべんと(´・ω・｀)ﾉｼ

>>69167738
別ブラウザにしてみたけどだめでした

誰かスクリーンショット持ってたら見せてくれー

>>69167660
>>69167693
>>69167738
4chanXを入れてない俺の環境でも
普通に(You)が表示されてる。

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>>69168004
>>69168039
どうぞ

>>69168092
ありがとうございます!
もしかしたら同じ症状が起きてたけど、気づかなかっただけかもしれないw
そういえば(You)がそもそも表示されてなかったです

>>69167852
polite度なら、どれでも問題ない
文法的に、2は完全な文ではないから使い方に気をつけないといけない
例えば手紙の挨拶としては使える
>Dear Anonymous,
>
>Happy New Year! I look forward to ...
>...
>With wishes that next year will be an even better one,
>
>Anonymous

>>69167922
先生と呼ばれる資格がないもん (´・ω・｀)

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>>69168092
原因は何なんだろうね
こっちは正常。

>>69168137
ありがとう!たびたびごめん・・
>Happy New Year! I look forward to ...
>...
>With wishes that next year will be an even better one,
ということは、"Happy New Year!"は2017になってからじゃなく今からでも使えるの?
あと、
>3.I hope the coming year will be filled with peace.
を
I wish the coming year would be filled with peace.
とした時はどうですか?I hope と I wish のニュアンス?に差はありますか?

test
はらへった…

>>69168389
自己レス
オムレツでも食べようかなあ

>>69168192
>>>/qa/911852 が原因のようです

>>69168326
>ということは、"Happy New Year!"は2017になってからじゃなく今からでも使えるの?
あっ、いいえ、それは失敗です (´・ω・｀)ｼｭﾐﾏｾﾝ

wishがちょっと変な響きなのでhopeの方がいいと思う
それにwillをwouldに変えるのは間違ってる

What japanese last name you like the most ?

おはようございますでしょう

>>69168525
柊

>>69168491
白いの何?
>>69168526
おはよ

>>69168423
なるほど、ありがとう

お外はまだ暗いものの、確かにおはようございますの時だった

>>69168450
大丈夫!Happy New Year! は来年使えばいいんだね、ありがとう!!!
>wishがちょっと変な響きなのでhopeの方がいい
「hope は期待や願望が実現する可能性は十分にあり得る場合」だからでいいですか?
>willをwouldに変えるのは間違ってる
仮定法になっちゃうから・・・?
しつこくきいちゃってごめん!

>>69168491
白身魚とイクラの間の二つは何?

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Hi japanons, how did you learn kanji at school? How many times did you have to write them down / how much kanji did you learn per week?

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やっぱり自分の環境ではそもそも表示がおかしい
これ以上無駄レスはやめます

>>69168423
わかりました、ありがとう
ちょっとその板見てきます

>>69168525
藤井 桜井
I think flower last name is beautiful.
What is your favourite Russian last name?

>>69168491
>>69168622
白い軍艦寿司*

>>69168668
英文は自制が一致しないといけないのです。would は過去の意味をあらわすから、いつの時に望んでいるのが分からなくなるのよ。
過去に望んだことを伝えたかったらwould でいいけど、その前の動詞も過去形にしないと同じ問題になる。

>>69168326
>>69168450
>>69168668
「I wish ... would ...」に関するおまけ

この構造は「今の状態が変わったらいいな」って意味
変わった方がいいその状態が知ってる、例えば
>I wish he would stop posting.
状態は、嫌なやつが書き込みやがってる
来年の話では、来年の状態はまだ分からないからこの構造は使えない

文法の用語はあまり詳しくないから使えない
故に私の説明が間違ってる可能性がある
私の考えだけだから (´・ω・｀)

>>69168668
>仮定法になっちゃうから・・・?
(´・ω・｀)ｱｯ､ｿﾚｿﾚ

have you reached the point where you can speak/understand japanese without mentally translating it to english?

>>69168725
Gromov probably
It sounds nice and means 'Thunder'

>>69168776
>>69168668
ごめんわかりにくそう

英文は動詞の時制が一致しないとネイティヴの人がいつの話なのかがわからなくなるということで

例えばある人がご飯を食べたいと言っていたことを伝えるには
He said he wants to eat breakfast.
でもいいような気もするが
He said he wanted to eat breakfast.
の方はより自然に聞こえる。

これみたいに一致しなくてもいい時もあれば、時制が一致してなくて全くわからない場合もある

>>69168910
>Thunder
cool! d(´･∀･`)

>>69168776
>過去に望んだことを伝えたかったらwould でいいけどいつの時に望んでいるのが分からなくなる
時制の一致に気を付けてそれを前提に文を組み立てないと意味不明な文になってしまうって事ですね。ありがとう!
>>69168804
>「今の状態が変わったらいいな」って意味、来年の状態はまだ分からないからこの構造は使えない
なるほどなるほど・・アメリカ君の説明と合わせて考えたらよりよく理解できました。
これらも合わせるとhopeの方がいいんだな、ってわかってきた
ありがとう!

来週からはまた主に外での仕事になりますが
正月に温度が20℃も下がるかもと天気予報で見ました…
日中 -10℃やだよ~

>>69168948
>例えばある人がご飯を食べたいと言っていた>ことを伝えるには
>He said he wants to eat breakfast.
>でもいいような気もするが
>He said he wanted to eat breakfast.
>の方はより自然に聞こえる。

Reported speech is always supposed to go one tense to the past(if possible - it's obviously impossible with the Past Perfect tense)

>He said he wants to eat breakfast.
this only sounds natural/logical to me when it's happening right now

>>69169121
Right. I'm using that sentence as an example of tense shifting in English.

But there are situations in which the first sentence is correct. Suppose you have a friend who speaks too quietly and he orders at a restaurant. The waiter keeps saying what? Cause he can't hear him. You should say "he said he wants the quiche"
So I didn't tell him it was wrong. I just said the other is more natural and sometimes both are ok

>>69168948
>He said he wanted to eat breakfast.
例をあげてくれてありがとう。気を付けます
>これみたいに一致しなくてもいい時もある
原理とかの場合は一致しなくてもいいと習ったような気がする・・
I learned twice 1 is equal to 2. みたいな
>時制が一致してなくて全くわからない場合もある
kill me....

>>69169121
>>69169213
おお!Thanks a lot!

英語説明しにくいわ
母語だから出来るはずなのに (´;ω;｀)

>>69168888
It's easier to just not.

>>69169213
>"he said he wants the quiche"
さすが従順くん

>>69169371
What does that mean?

>>69169329
外国語で母国語の説明できるって凄いよ。
英語で日本語の質問されても英語で上手く説明できないから日本語で返すもん。

>>69169509
英語で返した方がいいかもな、私
どう思う?

>>69169121
> -10℃
チェコは結構寒いんだね。
何の仕事してるの?冬に外仕事は辛いね。

>>69168697
>how did you learn kanji at school?
I used to memorise tons of kanji while writing them in notebooks again and again.

>How many times did you have to write them down
countless times.

>how much kanji did you learn per week?
to be honest, I've already forgotten how much kanji I memorised per week, but I remember there's a kanji quiz per week.

>>69169581
君、日本語が上手いから、個人的には日本語使って貰えたら嬉しい。
でも、疲れて日本語を使う気分になれなかったら
英語でも頑張って読みます。

>come back to 4chan after being outside for a few hours
>want to catch up on the people who replied to me
>can't search (You)
(´・ω・｀)

>>69169446
quiche is just sad pie and equally sad people order it

>>69169329
わかりやすかったよ!ほんとありがとう、助かりました
>>69169667
this desu :9

>>69169711
One day I'll make you a good quiche ok?

>>69169765
ok (*´∀｀*)

>>69169685
(´・ω・｀)つ(YOU)
youどこ行っちゃったんだろうね?…不便…

>>69168776
横からゴメン。
でも「I would appreciate if you (something)」とか、「I would like to (something)」とかのpoliteな言い方の場合は、時制関係なくwouldにするよね・・・

>>69169667
>>69169755
では、日本語にしよう
ちなみに私の説明や普段の書き込みに間違いや不自然なところを見つけたら是非訂正して貰いたいね~ (´・ω・｀)ﾖﾛｼｸ

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何を考えてるのかな 安倍君?

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食べ物の中で、何が一番おいしい?

>>69169850
｢I would appreciate if you (something)」現在時制
「I would have appreciated it if you had (something)ed」過去時制

>>69169974
チキン唐揚げ丼
これはオーストラリアのお店?

>>69169859
よろしく(´∀｀)
>訂正して
おk。 d(´･∀･`)あんまり直すところないけどね。
>>69168804
状態を*

>>69169850
I would like to の to は不定詞のtoで、過去形になることはない。

不定詞といえばそもそも時制が定まっていないという意味だと思うよ

I would appreciate it の場合は 普通、後に来る、その頼みの内容がいつも過去形になるような気がしますが

I would appreciate it if you opened the door for me.
だと不思議にも現在の話だけども
仮定法で分析してみればいつもと同じだよ
というのは、ドアを開けてくれれば嬉しいんだけど
とか

>>69169859
あ、分かりづらかったね↓
>>69170086
状態を知っている*

>>69169919
「来年はトランプのチンポしゃぶらなければ…」

>>69170141
分かりました
ありがとう、日本先生!

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>>69170047
うん、快適な店だよ

>>69169974
からあげチーズカレーがいい。

>>69169974
>>69169974
>カニコーンラーメン
>not Sapporo ramen
fuck

>>69169601
jisho.org によると執行吏のアシスタントです
英語ではBailiff(まぁ、Debt Collectorと言ったほうがいいですかね)

簡単に言うと、借金を払わない人の家に行って最初は割賦支払いを提供し
そこで払わない場合は売れるものを没収(募集できないものは法律で決められて)、後でオークションで売って、そしてもらったお金を払いの代わりに…

一応、やめるつもりですけどね

>>69170148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w3EbmeD9UY

>>69170007
I didn't want to say about matching of the tense at 69169850: I meant we use "would" not only for matching of tense purpose, but also the case that we want to make the word polite.

>>69170203
俺の背後に立つな

>>69167710
Just watched three episodes in Japanese. Honestly, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Details are lost both in the translation and the dubbing, but it's definitely watchable.

They also seem to deal well with jokes that don't translate well. For instance, in The Lip Reader, when Jerry's in the car with the deaf girl and he asks if it's fine to pick her up at six and she lip reads it as "sex", the translation instead has Jerry talk about going to a basketball game and they replace the "six" with "Knicks", which I thought was pretty clever.

>>69170125
あ、ナルホド。
不定詞=時制が不定ってことですか。

私が言いたかったのは、wouldを見たら即過去形っていうのではなく、それ以外の使い方もあるんじゃないの?ってことだったんですよ。

>>69170290
な、何?

>>69170338
>they replace the "six" with "Knicks", which I thought was pretty clever.

that's actually pretty cool.

i also watched it, and is it just me or does jap george sound perfect?

i wonder what kind of voice newman has.

>>69170377
ごめんこっちの誤解でもうわかってることばかり言ってしまった
その嫌な気持ち十分わかるよ
俺がパンツやになりかかっている

>>69170270
>Debt Collector
大変そうな仕事だね…。(´･ω･`)

>>69170400
ゴルゴ13が居そうな場所ってことなんじゃないかな。

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>>69169859
頑張ります!

>>69170439
いえいえ、別に嫌な気持ちってわけではなくて、こういう事じゃないの?って思っただけなので。

ところでパンツやって何(。´･ω･)?

>>69170431
Yeah, George was pretty good. I wasn't a fan of Kramer's voice acting though, but then again he's for sure the hardest character to get right. As for Newman, he appeared for a bit in The Lip Reader and it was pretty good desu.

>>69170400
俺の背後に立つなって言いたくなるような居心地悪そうな店だな

>>69170516
あの人が文法を説明しているところを見た時にご自分で判断させたいのでこれ以上の悪口を控えます

くっそ暑いけど、もう寝ないとね
おやすみ (´・ω・｀)ﾉｼ

地震だ

>>69170176
オージー先生、こちらこそいつもありがとう(*´∀｀*)<3
>>69170439
メリケン先生も分かりやすいので、これからも良かったら教えてください。

地震

>>69170642
おやすみ

>>69170642
おやすみ have a sweet dream (´・ω・｀)ﾉｼ

大丈夫?

揺れが長い

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>>69170692
だ、大丈夫!

>>69170692
揺れは大きくないから大丈夫

>>69170693
me right now

>>69170652
関東?

おやすみなさい

>>69170534
>俺の背後に立つな
does standing behind someone have cultural significance in japan? Why is standing behind you something you'd tell someone not to do?
わからない(´・ω・｀)

>>69170757
茨城で震度6だってよ
今年何回目だ大地震

>>69170757
うん、栃木県

>>69170767
is for
>>69170642

茨城で震度6弱か、結構揺れたんだね
私は関西なのでまったく揺れず。
現地民大丈夫?

Large earthquake at Ibaraki pref. (next of Tokyo). 6 weaker by JMA scale

>>69170767
おやすみ

茨城県中心、震度6.3

can i make a new thread with my gf as picture?

>>69170793
結構大きかったんだね
>>69170796
余震に気をつけてね

>>69170657
いれば、できる範囲なら何なりと

>>69170784
A hardboiled manga "Gorgo13" has the word of "never stand behind of me". This is a kind of joke in Japan, never mind.

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what did he mean by this?

>>69170845
ok

忘れらんねえよ / あなたの背後に立っていた
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FISawQvv_VI

>Sitting here naked when the earthquake happens

>>69170845
no way fuck off

an earthquake of magnitude 6.3 took place in the Kanto region

>>69170829
落ち着け、Magnitude 6.3であって震度6.3じゃねぇ。

>>69170925
お前は失礼だよ!

>>69170917
こういう時こそ stroke dick

>>69170857
>余震に気をつけてね
心配してくれてありがとう。
でもここら辺は、震度4程度だった。
震源地に近い茨城県民は大丈夫だろうか…

>>69170954
は?

>>69170906
そいつ荒らしだよ

>>69170954
あのドイツ旗は数年居座ってる荒らしだよ

>>69170962
抜くのが嫌!

>>69170845
make early

>>69170808
なんかごめんだけど、ありがとうー