Is Linux the greatest achievement of the Finnish race?

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obviously

>>69108439
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>69108567
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>Torvalds, pretty functional human bean, Finn
>Stallman, literal wizard, American
how

>>69109271
Americans have the biggest amount of wierdos of any country
look at how many conspirational theorists and batshit crazy people come from there, compared to Europe

>>69108567
t.sterotypical paki computer tutorial youtuber

>>69109327
but why can life be like in my menes

>>69109271
autism knows no borders

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>>69109131
>>69109360

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Ebin :DD

>>69108510
>>69109663
>installing the amazon botnet theme

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>>69109663
Hello

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>>69108567
>they don't know

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>>69109663
>unity
you know Ubuntu MATE is a thing right ?

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>screen tearing while watching videos is basically un-fixable until wayland comes out
>which won't happen until like 2022, and even then it may not be accepted by every distro
>bugs, bugs and more bugs
>no decent programs - photoshop BTFO's Gimp, openoffice is trash etc.
>have to fiddle with shitty command lines all the time, nobody ever bothers to make a fucking GUI for anything, so people actually want to use this piece of trash OS
>not user friendly
>no games
>runs like shit on top of all
>b-but it's free - well know you know why

Just no.

>>69109997
Command lines are the best way of using the computer
Now I just feel weird in macOS or Windows without my command lines being so straight foward

>>69108439
Torvalds is fennoswede

>>69108439
>the greatest achievement of the Finnish race
made by a swede?
YES

>>69110183
>t. Jamal

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>>69110183
>>69110193
Solid bait

>>69110259
im not falling for your reverse bait

>yfw torvalds biography is available in swedish and english only

>>69110146
Yeah I got used to it too.

>>69109967
S-sorry..

>>69108439
that and bone-pointed arrows

>>69110381
you see what you want to see, hervé

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>tfw only europoors and hispanics use gnu/linux while amerimasters and nips use windows and os x

>>69109131
>>69109360

welcome to 4chan newfriends

>>69109854
>>69110444
>>>/g/

>>69108439
The Golden Horde.

>>69110333
His parents were born in Finland and so did their parents and so on. Just because Linus's great great great great great grandparents might've been Swedish, that doesn't make him a Swede. And i hate the term "Fennoswede", when they're genetically identical to western Finns, but just happen to speak their broken version of Swedish. Linus also speaks Finnish too.

>>69109997
>screen tearing while watching videos is basically un-fixable until wayland comes out
works flawlessly on my machine
>bugs
no bugs here
>no decent programs - photoshop BTFO's Gimp, openoffice is trash etc.
depends on what kind of work you want to do
>>have to fiddle with shitty command lines all the time, nobody ever bothers to make a fucking GUI for anything, so people actually want to use this piece of trash OS
the shitty commandline is actually often superior to gui though
>not user friendly
linux mint is
>no games
wine runs what I want fine
>runs like shit on top of all
if your hardware has shit drivers

do you have an nvidia card?

>>69110432
>os x
enjoy your goto fail

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>>69110432
this desu

gentoocucks
>>>/out/

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>>69108567
um hm

>>69108439
no nokia is

>>69110503
So why didn't he publish his book in Finnish?

>>69110660
I don't know, go ask him. He has lived in USA for what, 20 years now, so he probably doesn't give a flying fuck about this small irrelevant country.

>>69110432
>os x and windows
hahahah eat shit cuck

>>69110503
>I hate the term fennoswede
Ok altan.

>>69108439
torvalds is swedish though

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>>69108439
>running basically most mobile devices
>running most of the internet infrastructure
>running most of the notebooks of swag nerds

Yes, Finland STRONK.

>>69110925
Of course he is! Like everyone in Finland

>>69108567
we're talking about the kernel you god damn fucking paki retard

>>69111021
juuh

>>69110774
But he published it in English and Swedish?

>>69110541
>works flawlessly on my machine
So that means everyone else on the planet must be a-okay too right?

>depends on what kind of work you want to do
Actual, literal work, that doesn't take twice as long.
>the shitty commandline is actually often superior to gui though
I disagree. it's a chore to use it. Information is scattered all over the internet. There's no centralized site to help you. You have to find bits of information all over the net and piece it together. it's annoying.
>wine runs what I want fine
With wine you also expose yourself to viruses, worms and everything that is wrong with windows. You might as well use windows at that point
>do you have an nvidia card?
Yes

>>69110836
rude

>>69108439
linux fucking stinks

>>69111021
newfag pls

>>69111139
We're not newfags just because we haven't been on that retarded tech Autism board

>>69111087
What is your point? He speaks Swedish, English and Finnish. If he doesn't want to publish his shit in Finnish, then it's his own right to not do so.

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>>69111124
>Linux stinks
>to post this probably he needed to interact with multiple Linux running devices like for instance his phone, his router, Google servers for captcha, DNS server for solving 4chan address, NAT firewalls and the 4chan cloud servers themselves

>>69111119
>So that means everyone else on the planet must be a-okay too right?
no, it means you can watch videos without tearing using xorg instead of wayland
>Actual, literal work, that doesn't take twice as long.
i meant it's great for programming
>commandline is bad
yeah i guess if you're not a programmer you won't really be into it
you don't really have guis for everything and you're forced to use the commandline sometimes
I agree it's a problem
>With wine you also expose yourself to viruses
I mostly play old games + wow

default open-source nvidia drivers are literally the worst of all
nvidia has a great proprietary driver though, have you tried installing that?
shouldn't be too hard on ubuntu / mint

>>69108567
The autism is strong with this one

>>69110432
shoo shoo pajeet

>>69110432
Because you're too retarded to understand how Linux works

All the relevant "Finns" in history were actually Swedish, Torvalds, Mannerheim, Sibelius. Actual Finns have never accomplished anything.

>>69108567
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

>>69111578
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

>>69111189
I've seen this meme everywhere during the last couple of years m8, I don't browse /g/ either

>>69111245
It was just a simple question m8

>>69111611
If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:

Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.

Thanks for listening.

>>69111569
What about the bone-pointed arrow then?

>>69111569
there is one
based markorepairs

>>69111578
> !=
This level of autism

>>69111641
thanks for the fresh /g/ memes, karl.

>>69111314
Yeah I tried and it doesn't work, still tearing. It sucks, because I genuinely liked Linux, but I have so many problems with it, it's disheartening as fuck. I'm not some uber-1337 hacker, I don't even know where to begin fixing crap. For now I'm dual booting with win, hoping sometime in the future Linux develops past its issues and finally I can be rid of Winshit.

>>69111578
>>69111611
When autism seemed enough...
(I agree with you, btw)

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>ITT : we seriously reply to pasta

Linus is just a huge smug asshole who's admired by kids and fedoras.
Prove me wrong.

>>69111139
>let me post copypastas without understanding the context
>do i fit in yet guise

>>69112160
> Linus Torvalds, huge smug asshole who gets shit done
> Tim Cook, uncharismatic faggot with their "aestetic" design and zero consideration to functionality
> Satya Nadella, retard with their Windows 10 spyware aka "botnet"

I know who I would choose

>>69112160
Pretty much like your president.

>>69112470

This is so true

>>69112462
>who gets shit done
Not really. Hes attitude towards the users was "here take my cool kernel do your ui stuff and we're done"
And all we can do now is sit and wonder why no linux distro can compete with windows.

>>69111087
Probably because swedish is his mother tongue, Finland is bilingual. That doesn't make him Swedish.

>>69108567
>they don't know
Kek