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Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1773

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Impolite Edition

Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

Special /int/ FAQ:
>What's the point of this thread?
For learners of Japanese to come and ask questions and shitpost with other learners. Japanese people learning English can come too I guess.
>Why is it here?
The mods moved us here and won't let us go anywhere else.
>Why not use the pre-existing Japanese thread?
The cultures are completely different.
>Go back to /a/
We'd like to. Bitch to the mods.

Previous thread: >>68534135 → →→
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>>>/jp/16252292
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>→ → →→

is DoBJG better than tae kim?
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>>68620555
Fuck off

We don't want anything to do with those /jp/ pedophiles here.
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I think the Nihongo Sureddo containing the term "DJT" is making the catalogue confusing and driving users away from the actual DJT.
I had some trouble figuring this mess out, I even scrolled through the third thread, thinking "what the fuck is wrong with DJT? It's looking like Nihongo Sureddo".

Of course I should have read the titles, but we can't count on everyone doing that. Should we ask them to stop doing this? Maybe they could link to >>>/int/Daily%20Japanese%20Thread instead or something. (Let's see if this works!)
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>>68621416
Oops, wrong picture.
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Dominican Jamaican Tasmanian
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>>68621444
>>68621416
The Japanese Threads already link to DJT, you can just read their OP and see. You can search for DJT by using >>>/int/DJT
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>>68621636
er, >>>/int/djt
I fucked up but you get the idea
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>>68620421
>うぜんだよ
huh, is that right
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>>68620421
Should have included ハゲ.
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>>68621745
you've never heard うぜんだよ before? i remember it being used a lot in the corpse party games, particularly between the jocky and worst girl

in fact, that's probably the best game to play to see japanese cussing in action
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>>68621745
>>68621800
あのんくん

つかってはいけないにほんごは

しっていても

つかってはいけないよ
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How do I use the core 6k deck on Anki and not freak out?

I can't remember a single Kanji or pronunciation when the fucking cards come in the order of

One
One (thing)
Two
Three (things)
Three
Two (things)
Four
Four (things)

etc

t. new
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>>68623104
Counting is hard in Japanese. 2 years in and I still don't remember the proper counting readings and months of the year.
Also, tons of fucking counters.
>枚
>冊
>匹
>個
>階
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>>68623104
First, make sure that your max reviews per day is 9999 so you don't hit some arbitrary cap later down the line.

Set your review times to something long, like 1 5 10 20.

The thing with Anki and SRS in general is that you're not going to remember the card on the first day. Forgetting is part of the SRS method, so when you are on the tip of forgetting and remember or have just forgotten, then that's when you know it's working.

No matter if you're reviewing or remembering, use anki as follows:
For new words, never hit Easy unless you know it from something previously.
If after taking your time to look at the word and try and remember but you either can't or get it wrong, hit again.
If you can remember the word after taking the time to think, hit hard.
If you can remember it fairly easily, hit good
If you can remember the word immediately, as a matter of reflex, hit easy.

You might go 3 days with struggling to remember a word, but it's that struggle that makes the word stick long term. A general idea of how remembering a word might go like this:
First time seeing it, you forget it next day.
Second exposure, you might still forget.
Third exposure, you might go 4 days without forgetting.
Fourth exposure, you might go 7 days without forgetting.
Fifth exposure, you might go a fortnight or a month without forgetting.

If you ever do not remember, hit again. It doesn't matter if it's been 1 day or 2 months, if you can't remember then smack that again button harder than I smacked your sister.

Don't forget to read out loud both the reading and the meaning before and after you hit show. Doing that encourages your brain to make neural pathways. You may also want to do "Cram study" by using the Custom Study option and selecting "Review Forgotten Cards" and setting it to 1 or 2 days. Doing cram sessions every day in your down time will boost your retention rate.
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>>68623372
That's what I mean, it doesn't feel like I should be bruteforcing all of the numerals into my head as a total beginner because it's not something that my brain cares about enough to learn especially without context.
I already know the cardinal ichi ni san yon go roku etc shit but learning the Kanji won't be made easier if I get completely different ordinal pronunciations thrown at me as soon as I open the deck.
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>>68623440
Thanks for detailed reply.
I know the basic principle of SRS and all, I learnt a few thousand words of Serbo-Croatian using Memrise for example.
When it comes to core 6k on Anki though I had it open (on AnkiDroid) for 30 minutes, hitting "Again" over and over constantly because I couldn't remember the ones that I had already seen multiple times for shit even if the last time I had seen a specific symbol was just a few seconds earlier.

Is it possible to change the order in which stuff shows up or something?
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>>68623590
There's two ways you can order the Core6K, the default which is roughly in order of most common to least common, or random. The default order, though it's hard, is recommended however because once you've gotten 2k words down and some grammar you should be able to read some basic material to broaden your knowledge. If you set the order to random it'll take 3x as long to get to reading because some very common words might get shoved at the end of the deck.

Sometimes it's hard, I also struggled at the start for a long time getting numbers, days of the week, and days of the month right, but eventually it gets easier. Finding your own way of remembering words short term, like making up mnemonics, might help ( I remembered wednesday because I made some shit up about swimming on wednesday, for example, and made up stories for all the days of the week). Eventually you'll forget the mnemonics and just remember the reading, so don't worry about relying on it for really shitty stuff.

Only thing I can say is "It gets easier", and I recommend the default order to assist your future studies.
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>>68623104
The answer is to suspend or delete all the counting cards and learn them outside of anki
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After looking up countless tutorials, I still can't fucking figure out how to send mail to japan

i need to figure this out like within the hour or it won't be there by christmas.
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https://youtu.be/wloCn1TqaD4?list=PLINFE8v4DOhvV5tJT77oF92vIwLLl6wAA

her lessons are great but this voice gets a bit annoying over time
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There is a word of 出世魚.
That means fish that are called by different names as they grow larger.
Though I wonder if the chinko has two name of small cock and erect cock.
I guess those are chinko and chinpo.
chinko is no-erect cock.
chinpo is erect cock.
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>>68623790
Alright, thanks for the replies.
I guess I'll stick with it for a while and see if it gets better, maybe it's just that I'm prejudiced towards Anki.
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>>68624036
what are you trying to do?
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WARNING
I've never said Baita and Ama in my life
These are not used in modern Japanese.
and I say SHINE 200 times per a day.
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>>68620421
Why small list of swear words. Russian language has a tons of curses and swear.
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>>68624539
send mail to japan
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>>68624130
>talking shit on Takepan
死ね
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>>68624796
Nice, now just 199 more times today, boss, and you'll be real Japanese.
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>>68624539
this girl gave me her address but apparantly japanese mail requires the block number / house number / ward in a 0 - 0 -0 format but the address she gave me doesn't have the numbers listed in that format

this is confusing. i need to find the 3 numbers.
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>>68624874
Have you tried asking her?
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>>68624874
http://www.japanpostalcode.net/

put address in, it spits info out
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what is most offensive.
しるか
or
くそくらえ
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if meaning "fuck off".
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A lot of people come in here whining about laziness and whatnot, but shit dude, that's your personal problem. That's you being spineless, or weak. Grow up! Read Yotsuba and hanahira a second time if need be. Get a clue. Laziness doesn't have a cure. It's all in your head. You just have to buckle up. And if you can't, get out of here! You're done.

So it's time to get out the Grammar Hammer and nail those little bastards down.

>Should I ever bother to learn the world "fuss"? I heard that most people just use "bother" to say the same thing.

I felt like that yesterday.

I read anyways.

I struggled the entire time, failing to recognize words that I know and having trouble wrapping my head around several sentences.

However, by the end of it, I still committed several new words to my vocabulary.

Go read!
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>>68625120
Are you working 17 hours a day like I am?
no, so fuck off you neet piece of shit
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>>68625220
no fuck you fucking pleb.
>>68625120 is right.
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>>68625047
>(the fuck) do I know?
vs.
>Eat shit!
gee I wonder which one
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>>68625355
of course you don't, shitty baka gaijin.
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>>68625530
one is a blatant insult and the other one is an annoyed reaction

are you stupid or something?
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>>68625649
stfu nigger, no one asked you.
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>アメリカの番組
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>>68623469
I agree you probably don't need to memorize all the numeral+counter combinations right away, but it would probably be beneficial to at least learn the 一つ二つ三つ readings. There's only ten of them and every counter will generally use either a version of one of those or the numbers you already know.
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Is eye doctor (me-isha) spelt
目医者 or
眼医者
?
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>>68626478
>目医者
About 21,100,000 results
>眼医者
About 647,000 results
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>>68620568
They're different things. Tae Kim is a guide, with drills. DoJG is a dictionary. Most people don't just read it front to back.
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>learning a foreign language to watch their cartoons

A bit silly innit.
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>>68626581
Ah, why couldn't I think of that option myself.

Thank you very much!
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>>68626803
That's >>>/jp/djt. This thread is about learning Japanese to live there and get a job.
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>>68626858
>Japanese to live there and get a job
わろたw
笑わせんで
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>>68626858
bullshit
I just like this thread better than the other one
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>>68626858
Not quite true.

the /jp/ thread is for full, desperate weebs. Like you're never supposed to go full weeb, but the /jp/ faggots do. And they're in /jp/, a safe haven for pedophiles that masturbate to japanese cartoon children.

/int/ is for the more politically inclined. while some of us are learning to move to japan and increase our international prospects, the others are just here because they don't want to be associated with /jp/
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>>68625120
I was discussing how "smell" is handled in English vs. Portuguese with a friend, and which words imply good/bad or ambiguous smells (scent, perfume, aroma, odor, smell, etc.).

Then I mentioned how there are several words in Japanese too and suddenly I realized I already knew how to say a pretty specific word like smell in three diferent ways.
We tend to think "why do they have this word if there is already that word?", but overlooking our language is the same.

Also, don't mind me, just testing something.
>>>/int/daily%20japanese%20thread
>>>/int/daily_japanese_thread
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/jp/ is for the people who will actually learn Japanese
/int/ is for the people who think they will be fluent in Japanese in 6 months but give up when they are not
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>>68628805
What if I am here for longer than 6 months.
And frequent both boards.
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日本語は六ヶ月にして習わず
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Can someone please help me to translate this sentence: その喉越しは愉悦を極め大地を丸ごと食したような恍惚感が得られるという
Anything I come up with is complete bullshit.
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>>68629289
Here's how a translation group would translate it
It tastes really good
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>>68629289
They say the feeling of it passing your throat is the height of pleasure, making obtainable a state of ecstasy as though one had just eaten all the earth.
・・・的な
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>>68629985
>a state of ecstasy as though one had just eaten all the earth.
That's the most American thing I've read all day.
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Step 7:

Remove the review limit by going to the deck options and under the "Reviews" tab and setting "Maximum reviews/day" to 9999 (Don't be alarmed by this number, it likely won't go above 200-350 in the long run at decent retention with 20-30 new cards a day, the point is more to set it to something you'll never hit)
-

Is this safe? I'm not sure this is a good idea. I like having a review limit, but is it really safe to just study new cards all day long?

i feel like i'd lose motivation quick doing that.
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>>68629985
>a state of ecstasy as though one had just eaten all the earth
This was the most confusing part desu.
Well, that's more or less what I was thinking about. Thanks.
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>>68630199
Review limit is not the same as number of new cards.

Having a review limit of 50 would mean that you wouldn't be doing more than 50 reviews, even though you might have 100 reviews waiting to be done. This means more cards due for review get pushed back and it repeats day after day. In the end, you'll not see cards that were due for review for days/weeks and your retention will drop through the floor.
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>>68630634
thanks, started core, and right away anki is fucking with my brain

一。Yeah that's ichi. 一つ. Well that must be ichitsu --- wait it's hitotsu what the fuck

getting my brain to comprehend that shit's gonna be wack
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Why did the mods kick out DJT? It's been there for years. Did /a/ really get that annoyed at on one stinking general?
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What the fuck is the point in me continuing to try learn this crap when I apparently forget things swift as fuck?
Here's an example.
>Day 1 (not actually my first day of learning this shit, I'm just using this in the example) of Anki - Learn some kanji and words
>Day 2 - Learn some new kanji and words, the stuff I learned yesterday shows up and although I recognize the kanji/hiragana, I cannot remember their meanings, so I relearn them in this lesson
>Day 3 - Learn some new kanji and words, but the old ones come up again and I still haven't memorized them, so I have to relearn them over again
>Day on and fucking on - Same shit happens constantly

Fuck this shit, this is impossible
>Just read jap lol
How am I meant to read without knowing the basics? That is completely illogical and yet without reading I'm never going to be able to retain anything.
How the fuck is Anki enough for anybody to learn this shit? Fuck I am mad, every time I open Anki I enjoy it while learning the new Kanji, but as soon as the stuff I previously 'learned' shows up and I cannot remember them it just pisses me off and makes me think what the fuck is the point?
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>>68632995
>How am I meant to read without knowing the basics?
If you look up the words and grammar you don't know and remember them just long enough to figure out what the sentence means, you're still learning something even if you forget ten minutes later.
>How the fuck is Anki enough for anybody to learn this shit?
It's not, you got memed. It's a good tool for memorizing things but not an all-in-one language teacher.
>Fuck I am mad, every time I open Anki I enjoy it while learning the new Kanji, but as soon as the stuff I previously 'learned' shows up and I cannot remember them it just pisses me off and makes me think what the fuck is the point?
Do fewer new cards a day if you're doing too many to remember right now. Steel your heart and have patience.
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>>68632995
Read.
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>>68632995
Just have autism, m8. It's not that hard.
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>>68632995
Forgetting is part of learning, anon.
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>>68632995
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Who /10newcardsaday/ here?
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>>68632995
I don't use anki because learning vocabs without a proper context just isn't fun
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>>68631843
I mean that's not anki's fault, it's japanese's fault
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>>68626597
>with drills
there is only a few exercises in tae kim's guide, and they don't go past lesson 6 of basic grammar. I wouldn't take them into consideration.
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is there a way to add stroke order to the core deck? with the stroke order my reviews in anki will be all i need outside of tae kim's guide
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>>68632995
you should talk to mary
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Wait you guys don't unironically use anki, right?
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>>68635189
who the fuck cares about stroke order, the most efficient way of writing them usually is the stroke order anyway and if it isn't then there's no need to be autistic about it
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>>68635401
What do you use, fuck?

>inb4memrise
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>>68635407
>who the fuck cares about stroke order

The Kentei 1 examination
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anki reps done. time for memrise and next lesson of tae kim, then a video of namasensei to top it off

learning japanese is fun!
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>>68633665
Me. I am almost done with Core6k.
Just gotta get my grandson at school and will do my daily reps.
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Will browsing 2ch give me a lil boost?
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>>68638543
A boost of cancer? Yeah.
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>>68638543
Would you go to 4chan to improve your English?
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>>68640813
I think it helps English learners a lot actually.
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>>68640858
It would certainly give them an arsenal of ways to proposition black men for some quality time with their wives.
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>>68640813
considering most non natives here are fluent i'd say it helps
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>>68621800
I've heard it spoken, just thought it was slanged up うるさい
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>>68641271
うるさい is different from うざい (which is used in うぜんだよ). うるさい just means "noisy" or it's used when you want to tell someone to pipe down. うざい means "annoying" or used when you want to call someone a pest.
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>>68641349
教えてくれてありがとう
自分の下品の語彙を増した!
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>>68641349
うるさい、バカ
何もわかってないくせに
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>>68640813
I would. Visited some French chans and it was a great experience - until I noticed they are all dead and there is no rotation of content.
And the francofil is garbage.

For English (and Japanese at 2ch) there are several boards with actual niche discussion and a steady userbase to make it a learning platform.

Of course there will be lots of lingo, but that's where common sense comes in. Everyone's exposed to informal language from birth and it's not like it affects our learning of proper written language.
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>>68632660
I wasn't there to see the drama but I have heard a rumour that people were getting fed up of the constant generals (you'll notice there is no monster girl general on /a/ anymore). Sadly it seems DJT was an unfortunate casualty of the purge.
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>>68632995
If it's helping you recognise and differentiate between kanji, then it's already doing its job. You learn in context and you only get that by reading and constant use, flash cards are only an aid, nit the be all and end all.

If it helps though, I'm having the same problem and I partly solved it by changing my step times. Also don't wait until the next day to do your reviews, do it more often while it's still fresher in your mind.
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Does anyone have experience with these 3 or 6-12 month long language schools in Japan?
I think I've seen schools where you only play around 6000$ for 6 months Japanese classes, food and dorm.

I don't want to blogpost, but just for understanding my situations is as follows
>24years old job is shit
>I'll quit in 2-3 months

Thinking about doing

a) Go to school to get a degree worth something and learn Japanese as a hobby (which will probably be slow cause I don't have enough time to learn)
b) Go to a language school in Japan for 6-12 months to become fluent (hopefully) and get my degree later.
c) Go for the "International Business Management Japan" major where I spent 2 semester in Japan.

Also can you do work and travel in Japan?

>just teach English
Well I'm not a native speaker so yeah I'm fucked.
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>>68644457
Learning Japanese is not going to get you a new job. So you would be spending 6 months and 6000$ for a hobby.

>Also can you do work and travel in Japan?
Working holiday visa, but who is going to hire you?
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>>68621745
うざい is similar to うっとうしい.
うぜえ is うざい in Kanto dialect.
うぜんだよ is shortened for うぜえんだよ.
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>>68644832
>Learning Japanese is not going to get you a new job. So you would be spending 6 months and 6000$ for a hobby.
I'm aware of that, I've saved some money I'm fine spending it on my hobby.

>Working holiday visa, but who is going to hire you?
I don't know, there must be a shit job I can do or not?
A friend of mine went to Australia for work and travel and did stuff like help a farmer and shit to get by.
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So DJT, i just hit my first milestone

Japanese 1 completed on memrise. I still have to finish tae kim's guide and yes, i'm doing anki on the side as well

but this is a pretty good motivational booster for me. it only gets harder from here, right?
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>>68644457
anon are you still here?

if you say yes i'll help you. i have the answer to all your questions
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>>68645018
Do you have a bachelor's degree?

>Germany
>country that has near free college tuition
>24 years old

You better fucking say yes
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>>68645289
Yes I am anon.

>>68645312
Not yet but I want to change that.
Before you ask why, the thing is my family was pretty poor and I just started working to have at least a little bit of money.
I know it was the wrong choice but oh well.
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Sorry for the dumb question, but which is the best 2k/6k Anki deck? I heard the one on the Anki site has a lot of problems and to use the guide one, but there's several of them and I want to ensure that I'm learning things properly and not setting myself up for failure letter on.
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>>68645396
First off, forget the working holiday visa. It's a literal meme.

Get your ass a bachelor's degree. You need a college degree to get anywhere in Japan unless you get married then MAYBE you can grab a minimum wage job somewhere.

Once you get the bachelor's degree, pursue post graduate study in Japan for a while. Your bachelor's degree university in Germany should have a list of partner colleges in Japan if it's worth a damn. Those partner colleges will have the highest chance of you being able to enter them for post graduate study, so see your counselor at university for details.

Second, get your ass an N1 certificate before you get that bachelor's degree. That means you'll need to learn and master Japanese outside of college, because college courses will never get you N1 ready. Ever.

So basically, sit your ass in this thread/general for the next few years and grind Core with the rest of us, and complete tae kim's guide.

Your career plan should look something like this
>>>/r9k/33396911


By the way, I actually reccomend getting the N1 before your final year of university. You'll want the last year of university to prepare for EJU

Yes, it's a lot of work, but you can do it. Make something of yourself. You can do it. Your life is about to get very busy, juggling japanese study, college, and job all at once. But you can do it.
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>>68645541
Not sure why you need N1? I was able to get free post-grad education in Japan, including accommodation and shit, just with a bachelors and doing well in a little embassy-organised test/interview. It might be different in other countries I guess.
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>>68645541
Thank you very much for the advice, I'll do some research on that matter.

>Secondly, since you're going to nip uni you'll have to take the EJU, which is even harder than the JLPT. Japanese people spend their entire high school careers preparing for the EJU so you better be ready for it.
This sounds fucking cruel though.
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>>68645681
>Not sure why you need N1?

So when you apply for a job in japan you slap N1 certificate and Japanese college degree on the table as your receipts. You don't need a master's degree, just a semester or two is fine.

N1 is going to fucking save your ass. And keep in mind the EJU is harder than the N1. When you apply to japanese university you have to take their entrance exam (called the EJU). Japanese students spend the entirety of their 4 years of high school preparing for it. So it's fucking hard as shit.

I'm actually not sure if post-graduates are required to take the EJU, but it surely would help.
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>>68645822
>This sounds fucking cruel though.

Cruel until you find out there's actually a scholarship you can earn by doing good enough on the EJU

http://www.jasso.go.jp/en/study_j/scholarships/scholarship/shoureihi/yoyakuseido/yoyakuseido_06.html

$500/month just for proving you have good japanese
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>>68645825
Can't you take the EJU in English?
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>>68645825
It completely depends on what university you're going to in Japan though. Some have fucking impossible entrance exams and some it's a breeze anyone can do it.
Surely if you've gone through a Japanese university and obtained a degree, you don't need N1? I guess it's not too hard to get anyway so might as well.
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>>68645921
>Can't you take the EJU in English?

see:
>>68645909

2.Applicants must take any of the following eight EJU subject test combinations.
a.Japanese as a Foreign Language only
b.Japanese as a Foreign Language, and Mathematics (Course 1 or 2)
c.Japanese as a Foreign Language, Mathematics (Course 1 or 2), and Science
d.Japanese as a Foreign Language, Mathematics (Course 1 or 2), and Japan & the World
e.Japanese as a Foreign Language and Science
f.Japanese as a Foreign Language and Japan & the World
g.Mathematics (Course 1 or 2) and Science
h.Mathematics (Course 1 or 2) and Japan & the World


in theory you could probably do option G to avoid as much japanese questions as possible but what's the fucking point
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>>68646046
The Japanese test itself doesn't seem that difficult. Basically N1 or maybe even below that plus some production. I thought maybe doing the other tests in Japanese was the difficult part.
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How many years (ballpark) does it take to pass the N1?
Say I just started learning today: Would I be prepped to take the JLPT in 2019/2020?
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>>68646045
Well, in Japan the only degrees that exist are a bachleor's degree and a master's degree

if you get your bachelor's outside of japan you'd have to go to college for 3 years in japan to get a master's.

but there's really no point in going for the masters. the real purpose of post-graduate study is to be inside japan while jobsearching

this would mean you'd only have an english college degree while in japan, and thus you WOULD need the n1 if applicable
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>>68646195
If you do 20 words a day and don't skip any day, you can be N1 ready in 2 years

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Level Criteria
Learning hours Kanji Vocabulary
N5 150 hours 100 characters 800 words
N4 300 hours 300 characters 1,500 words
N3 450 hours 700 characters 3,500 words
N2 600 hours 1,000 characters 6,000 words
N1 900 hours 2,000 characters 10,000 words
10,000 words divided by the amount of days in a year (358)

you would need to remember 27 words a day to be N1 ready in a year. that's not happening. do 20 words a day and you'll be good for 2018's JLPT.

but your ass should still take the N3/N2 next year as a way to prep your ass.
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>>68645822
So germanon, here's my career plan for you

Step 1.) Go back to university. ASAP. Like literally apply tommorow if it's possible.

Step 2.) Start frequenting this thread. a lot. At least get yourself N3 ready next year, and you'll be able to get yourself N1 ready before bachelor's degree

Step 3.) Check your college's japanese partner colleges list

EXAMPLE (American College):
https://www.umass.edu/asian/study-abroad-asian

Japan

Hokkaidō University in Sapporo
Sophia (Jōchi) University in Tokyo
International Christian University in Tokyo
Nanzan University in Nagoya
Dōshisha Women's College in Kyoto
Kansai Gaidai University in Hirakata
Kwansei Gakuin University in Nishinomiya

If I went to this university, any of these partner colleges would be ideal to transfer.

And if you look at the fine notes, you'll even see there's a course you can take

*Students planning to study in Japan should also aim to take Japanese 197M: Study Abroad Japan, a 1-credit course offered every fall by Prof. Forrest.

Basically, look at your college's asian studies program online or in the university and see what is offered.
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Post Japanese songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPF7lit7Z00
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>>68646272
If it's all-expenses-paid, why not go for a masters? It sounds much more fun than jumping straight into the work-force, and you'll probably have an easier time with a better degree.
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>>68646571
>If it's all-expenses-paid, why not go for a masters?

The scholarship is only valid for 2 years. You'd start burning your savings for the 3rd year of the Master's, but if that's your cup of tea go for it.

Hell, 3 years is enough time to find someone to marry before you even leave college/get a job.
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>>68645177
how long did it take you? I stopped memerise at part 9 (Jap 1) in favor of anki and tae kim. Is it worth going back?
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>>68646356
Sweet as.
So N1 is actually "low-functioning high school graduate"-level. I had it in my mind it was way more difficult, requiring near-native Japanese production capacity. I suppose that's more the other two exams you guys frequently mention (Kentei was I think one of them, and European something).

I've actually been plodding happily along at 25 words a day for a little while, and plan to focus on grammar until I hit the three month mark/finish the first 2000 words of core2K- then start reading. If I can be N1-level in time for JLPT2018 then let's do this shit.
Thanks!
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>>68646623
Oh. The scholarship I got can be extended right up to PhD if you're good enough.
Not even sure if I want to work in Japan yet, given the working conditions compared to NZ, so I'll just test the waters while at uni there and decide then.
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>>68646662
>How long?
Uhhh, 4 weeks I think? I skipped some days, but I did the "45 minute" sessions everytime.

I use Memrise as a supplement to Anki. I use Yomichan, and I literally port the memrise words to Anki on my custom deck, so my study basically looks like this

I have the core deck on the top, and my "Noroi" deck contains my yomichan words, which is stuff I port from Memrise and stuff I see on the internet

so my Noroi deck is basically a Memrise review deck which is just a supplement to my Core-deck learning.

And I do that on top of memrise progression / tae kim progression.

Time consuming, but more japanese exposure and the most sources of japanese teaching the more I understand it.
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>>68646528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9NkrEFF220

I listen to this song almost every day

I don't know why. Is this considered "masculine" in japan?
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>>68646791
pick a good uni in japan, anon

tokyo is for pussies
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>>68647020
How do you decide which ones are good? And why does it matter, outside of showing off to people "look at this super prestigious uni I went to".
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>>68647131
>And why does it matter


>Why does it matter where I spend 3 years of my life

Don't you want to....have a good time? Meet good people? Have fun?

Going to be a fun college is better than going to some shitty korean-stained college you won't have fun at. Please do your research before making a life-changing decision you can't turn back on.
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>>68647174
Okay, but is there really that much of a difference? All unis will have people to befriend and events to have fun at, how are you supposed to tell "this uni will be exciting and this uni will be boring" without actually going there? Really it matters a lot more what the people immediately around you - in the same accommodation and classes and such - are like, and you can't know who they are until you get there.
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>>68647305
I mean, where would you want to live in Japan?

If you like snow, skiing, and snowboarding go learn in hokkaido

If you want a taste of traditional japan, seeing all their cool ass shrines and bamboo forests, go to kyoto

etc.
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>>68647356
Well, I was planning on holing up in my room and spending most of my free time playing eroge. Kind of like my lifestyle here, except I'm doing it in Japan. So it doesn't really matter where I am.
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>>68647456
What's the fucking point then
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>>68647456
>going to japan just to be a hikokomori

Study in Tokyo then. You're going to want to be close to akihabara so you can at least go to maid cafes and shit. that's probably the shit you'd like.
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>>68647456
>I want to go to Japan so I can avoid interacting with the country, it's culture, and its people as much as is humanly possible; and to generally live as I do currently, only in less comfort and a place where it is far harder to maintain the standard of living to which I have become accustomed
Do you not want to go to nice restaurants, see snow, visit sites of cultural significance, live near the heart of your hobbies, bang Japanese chicks, or anything?
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>>68647456
This post managed to ruin my whole day
fucking depressing
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>>68645681
>Not sure why you need N1?
Yes, you're not.
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>>68647456
this has to be the worst post on 4chan

i didn't know people like this actually existed
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What happens if I work through the Internet for Western clients and just want to move to Japan? I can pay taxes!
What happens if I go there on vacations and work through the Internet, am I breaking the law of no working with a tourist visa?

>>68646045
>Surely if you've gone through a Japanese university and obtained a degree, you don't need N1?
Yes, it is surely.
>>68646857
>Uhhh, 4 weeks I think?
Yes, you think.

HOLY SHIT, ARE VALLEY GIRLS RAIDING DJT?
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>>68647905
>Brazilians questioning common english etiquette
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>>68647656
>see snow
I know those feels Ausbro.

And Australia is a fucking cultural wasteland. We have no festivals, no holidays, no landmarks, no cuisine, and no history. I went there recently and Sydney is the most boring place I've ever been to.
Australia has beaches and vegemite, and that's about it.
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>>68648153
What about that big opera house thing?
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>>68647656
Why do you think it'll be less comfortable? I think it'll be fine, if anything having my own place to live will be great.
And I've been there for holiday and done most of those things, they were fun but not the kind of thing I'd want to do every day. There's nothing more pleasurable than getting engrossed in a good eroge in the sanctity of my room, and I think living in Japan a bit will help me appreciate them more. Reading about the brilliance of the blooming sakura trees or the unhealthy conbini food a male living alone will eat is great, but if you've actually been there you'll have memories to go with and enrich those descriptions.
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Where do I download VN's like はなひら? I want to get off my sorry ass and start reading, but I can't find it in the CoR.

Outback Australian internet here too with a 12gb cap, so I don't exactly want to download 250mb for it to be patched in English.
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>>68645541
>/r9k/ being linked in DJT

I never thought I'd see such a thing.
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>>68648197
That thing is a monument to itself.
It serves a function as a playhouse but the only thing unique about it is the exterior design.

Sydney in general is a complete hole. Its a glorified tourist trap; the "glorified" part being that tourist traps usually have at least one thing worth seeing. Expensive as fuck too.
Even the bridge is just a copy of the Newcastle Tyne bridge in the UK and the Hells Gate Bridge in New York.
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>>68648261
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=493626

Most VNs will be on Sukebei instead of Nyaa, but Hanahira has no porn.
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>>68648539
Thanks man, much appreciated. I'll be sure to check Nyaa and Sukebei in the future, should have this time but it slipped my mind.
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>>68648290
you saw it

just
now
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Go back to /a/ you fucking neckbeards.
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>>68649311
or what?
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狭 挟
seriously ~~
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>>68652551
I mix these up a lot too. I use the hand randical to remember which one is はさむ because you use scissors with your hands.
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>>68652551
There are much worse examples of identical looking kanji. At least the radicals look pretty different.
Meanwhile stuff in the vein of 未 and 夫 is unacceptable.
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>>68652551
My two are 繰 操
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Anyone here learn Japanese after learning Korean?

I've been studying Korean for almost a year now and while I intend to keep working on it I am gradually gaining interest in switching over to Japanese eventually because animu and mango look like fun

I know Japanese and Korean have similar grammar and share some Chinese vocab between them but is there any big differences or problems for people who learn one after the other?
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>>68653009
Steve didn't seem to have any problems
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>>68652551
I've become a fluent reader over the past 5 years and I STILL CAN'T DIFFERENTIATE シ AND ツ, I can only guess from context.
I mean I can tell them apart when they're right next to each other, but otherwise it depends entirely on the font used (if it's an unfamiliar font I have no clue.) And I'm absolutely hopeless when they're used in vertical writing.

Oddly enough I'm usually alright with ソ and ン
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>>68646743
High school graduates are natives.

Getting a near perfect score on N1 does require near native reading comprehension. Passing it. though, certainly does not. And of course it doesn't test speaking at all.
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>>68653121
The opposite for me.
If you type ソン I can easily distinguish them, and I have no problems when reading, but if you were to stick some weird new katakana word in front of me in a weird font I'd get it wrong the first read attempt like a 3rd of the time.
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>>68620421
お前ら/jp/に移動されたんじゃない?
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>>68654514
そっちに尋ねればどうですか
参考になるかもしれません
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>>68620421
Wow, even their curse words sound lame.
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>>68648261
>>68648539
>>68648605
Maybe it is 旧仮遣い
If so
はなひら is pronounced as はなびら
Its meaning is same as 花弁
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>>68656329
馬鹿だなーお前
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はなひらが通じない/int/
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I almost consider killing myself again when I didn't find djt on an /a/ search.

My parent thanks to you mods.
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Can someone help me out? How do I say "Will you be drawing/posting more of (character name)" in Japanese? A guy on pixiv just posted an album and one of the pictures was of a character I like that he hasn't drawn in like a year and a half. I'll just send an emoji for the reply depending on his answer.
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There is a lot of interesting words in the Japanese language!

We must remember them all!
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I just want to post about running VN, in particular はなひら, in wine on linux (the only VN I've downloaded and tried so far).

First, a note about はなひら. It does not work in Wine as is because of some shitty format they use in their archives. You need to fix the archive of the game of you'll get an error when you run it.

Download fjfix.exe from here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/39ei0tcvhyac677/fjfix.exe?dl=0
Place it in the folder you've got はなひら.
Run: wine fjfix.exe -f MGD

Note: You need to run fjfix with wine. There are three ways to compile fjfix, with linux, windows, or with winegcc. Each version encodes the MGD differently so you must use this particular one to have it work with linux, the linux executable will NOT let you run the game with wine. It has to be the winegcc fjfix run under wine. (That's what I'm linking up there, don't trust me? Compile your own.)

Next, install japanese fonts for your wine prefix. using winetricks install ipamona and takao.
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>>68657929
For text hooking I tried using two things, ITHVNR and AGTH.

ITHVNR:
To use this wine must be version 1.9.16 or later. I use Debian so I needed to install wine-development to get the latest version, I also just let it convert my old prefix. However, I did not have success with ITHVNR, it wouldn't auto copy or suppress. I believe this is because I didn't use a native VC2013, but I said fuck it because I'm not wasting bandwidth to try to see if that fixes it. If you encounter problems try installing VC20013 with winetricks.

AGTH:
This worked out of the box. I had no trouble hooking はなひら but other games might give you trouble, so in that case try ITHVNR. Place it in the game directory.

Enable Auto Copy and suppress doubles in both.

To run the game with ITHVNR use:
LANG=ja_JP.utf-8 wine HANA9.EXE
LANG=ja_JP.utf-8 wine ITHVNR.exe

To run the game with AGTH use:
LANG=ja_JP.utf-8 wine agth.exe HANA9.EXE

The firefox plugin/page works fine natively in linux and will copy from wine.

Now I can finally watch cute girls do cute things. FUCK.
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できない先生は死んだね
お悔やみ申し上げます
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>>68658277
できないせんせいのmemeって

もとネタってなんだったの?
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>>68626597
>Most people don't just read it front to back.
That's what the anki deck is for, so people don't have to think about sitting down and reading it back to front.
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>>68627461
>/int/ is for the more politically inclined
Please fuck off back to /pol/ and never return, or kill yourself. Either way, fuck off. You fucking normalfags are killing 4chan and have made /int/ far worse than it has ever been. Take your IRL political bullshit and vomit it all over your social media pages, not fucking 4chan.
You are absolute fucking cancer.
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>>68659935
>I want to only care about my country in a safe haven for me, without being exposed to foreign ideas and foreign culture

why are you in a japan thread again, mr. australian? /jp/ is that way.
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>>68627461
I agree with this sentiment though 4chan isn't very politically inclined in any way.
I only come to 4chan for this thread, usually I am on more obscure secret club boards.

The reason for why I come here instead of going to /jp/ is because /jp/ is full of miserable faggots who I despise, while this thread is mixed 50/50 between miserable faggots and miserable heteros.

"Otaku" weebs who spout "kawaii" anime memes should die, they are a plague, as is the modern Japanese pop culture.
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>>68660346
I think "politically inclined" was the wrong word. I think I meant something more like "globally incllined" in that /int/ was for people that wanted to open their horizons a bit and see the world, which is what makes this an /international/ world.

On the flipside, /jp/ is just people that don't care about any of that and only want to learn japanese for anime so they can think while masturbating or something.
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>>68660449
I agree.
I am learning Japanese because I am interested in the language itself and in actual Japanese culture and reality, not in some j-pop idoru jav-desu kawaii anime manga faggotry
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>>68660581
yeah, the people on this thread have a higher chance of actually -using- their Japanese.

stick with it my friend
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Test. Can't post on /vg/. IP range ban
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For the people who plan on/want to move to Japan: What is your reason for wanting to?

Personally, I just want to live in a different country. Being an Americunt, I'm pretty isolated from the rest of the world. Japan just happens to be at the top of my list, with Germany and Ireland right below it.
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>>68660772
I plan to have a 1 year holiday there via exchange programs. No way I'd ever become a wageslave there when I can earn much more here though
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>>68660772
I was like you once, thinking "I just want to go to japan because i-it's no different from moving to any other country! I just -happened- to choose Japan!""

as a fellow amerilad, you probably know what I mean when I say americans are closed-minded. even though we're supposed to be a melting pot of global cultures we never really care about reaching outside our small little ponds and seeing what else is out there, and our education system is what traps us in the country with student loans

going to japan because i'm sick of the Individualism our country is stained with, and I want to give a collectivist society a shot. more than that, the mindset of the japanese seems far better than what our fellow americans consider "respect"

'course, the biggest redpill in this regard was realizing our country overstepped their bounds in hiroshima/nagasaki and we will never be punished for it

basically: it's complicated for me
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>>68661271
I read a book on Japanese society once, and it was interesting how it pointed out that Japan puts the good of the company over the good of the individual. Like the Australian guy above you, I'm not going to live there if I have to become a pitiful wageslave at some shitty company. If I'm going to live there, it would be doing something I like (astrophysics). I won't mind putting Japanese levels of effort into the company then.

>going to japan because i'm sick of the Individualism our country is stained with, and I want to give a collectivist society a shot.
May I ask why? I think individualism is great, I just hate the bubbles that it creates to the point of our infamous ignorance of the world.
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>>68661590
Collectivism breeds beauty.

Since japanese society basically filters out the undedicated people, and filters all the dedicated people into one specific agenda (that IS what collectivism is), you get a get pronounced version of one thing

So while Japan's output isn't varied, collectivism is the reason what they DO output is considered to be very high quality. They only take the best of the best, then focus the best of the best on one specific agenda

In Individualism, it's whatever the fuck the individual wants, which is why America's output never really screams "This is what Americans stand for". We don't really have anything like that, which is probably why we have to fucking import everything from other countries that do all the work.

Ignoring the effects on work & business from collectivism, collectivism also breeds a very special kind of bonding system. Its rooted in their honor traditions, but if you ever experience a japanese friendship firsthand, through the power of the internet or otherwise, you'll know what I mean. It's very different, and stronger than relationships in america. It does require a very specific mindset though, which is completely different from how westerners perceieve others. That's the con of living in an individualist society - you can't truly see other people for who they really are.
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I want to purse a financially wealthy career in Japan. Is it even possible for a filthy non Jap like me? Even with fluency?
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>>68662125
>financial success
>japan

choose one. realize that if you want money, japan should not be on your map. people going to japan have other goals in mind.
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Coming up on 6 months

日本語を よんでのが むずかしい ですね。

Is this sentence even correct
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>>68660772
The Japanese cultural identity is very endearing and attractive, and I'd like to experience it through holiday. I've lived in three countries, 2 with no real identity (I'm looking at you Australia and Canada), and I want to go back to community rather than commerce. Rural Japan is particularly attractive.

Another reasons is that most of the media I consume is from Japan, so why not take the final step and cut out the middle man.

Lastly, I have a good friend who I've known for a while in Japan. Though he's deaf and we won't be able to verbally communicate, he's very encouraging of my learning and we both hope to see a day when we can talk on a much better level. For the last few years we've communicated through broken english, simple japanese, and machine translation, but I've finally decided to make a change. Not jinxing it, but this time I feel I'll succeed in learning the language to a decent fluency, never underestimate a good support network.
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>>68662154
Elaborate if you don't mind.
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>>68662182
>よんでのが
よんでるのは*
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>>68662253

Why is it は and not が in this instance
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>>68662251
Let me put it this way

Do you know why you don't tip your waiter in Japan? Because you're tipping your landlord instead. Talking tips on the scale of $1,500 everytime you renew your lease.

Then when you aren't tipping your landlord you're donating to charity because if you don't do that you're a fucking faggot

Then you finally finish paying your house, just to have to purchase a new house in 20 years because japanese houses are literally built to last only 20 years. You'll have to buy 3 or 4 houses in your lfetime.

This is really just the tip of the iceberg. There's a reason some nips live in cubicles and why things like capsule hotels exist.

Don't go to Japan for financial success. You won't find it.
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>>68662331
Any books I can read on about it?

To the whole thread what are some good books on Japan in general?
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>>68662300
You are bringing in a new topic to the conversation (or in this case, you started the conversation).
If we were already talking about the difficulty of reading in different languages in general and you were simply mentioning that Japanese in particular is difficult, が would be appropriate since its not the topic of the conversation, yet the subject of the sentence.

>>68662408
There's some books in the CoR on Japan.
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>>68662408
There's plenty of books listed in the OP

i'm not saying don't go to japan. but i'm saying is if you only care about money, America is the "Land of Opportunity" for a reason and that will never change. America's where the money is.

Japan's where the culture is. I just want you to have realistic expectations, anon, so you don't end up like davido-kun.
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>>68662125
How come a lot of Chinese are financially wealtthy in our country?

Makes me think
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>>68662492
Why are you going to Japan, Anon? What's your plan? Just curious.
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>>68662578
there's more to life than money, my phillippino friend.

i consider there to be two ways to life life: one is financial happiness, which seems to be the path you're seeking, you'll find that in america. the other is social happiness, that's when you have a wife, or good friends, and such. the two are incompatible, since you can either spend your free time trying to make money, or your free time trying to develop friendships

japan is a pretty good country for the later option.
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>>68662182
>6 months
日本語を読むのは難しいですね
Drop the spaces and use kanji
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Does you woman love me?
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>>68663073

I'm not gonna use kanji I don't know
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>>68663155
>6 months
>Literally two words that appear in the first 100 cards of the core deck
Uh, you might wanna get on that sooner than later.
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>>68663155
You should know 読む and 難しい by 6 months in. You should have learnt them after less than one month really
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>>68663218
>>68663234

Kanji has only been part of my classes for a couple of weeks now
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>>68663316
There is really no reason you can't do anki at the same time as classes, in 6 months you could know 3000 words, let that sink in. If you start Anki today and do 20 new words a day, you'll have learned 6k words by this time next year. At an hour a day, don't the benefits outweigh the cons? What's stopping you from being proactive in your study?
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>>68663414

Other classes, probably
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May I introduce my gf to you
I love her very much
Soon we will go to Japan together and eat tonkatsu
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Holy shit

Namasensei was actually better at explaining verb conjugations than tae kim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQlq-hxWRzQ

watching this video before starting this chapter of tae kim was the smartest decision i ever made in my life
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>>68664730
They're both pretty shit compares to the oodles of professionally published content on the manner. I don't know why people waste their time on shitty free resources when professional quality resources are freely available and easy to find with an adult brain and the aptitude to use a search engine. Hell, even the guide and resource guide linked in the op provide links to better resources that those two you mentioned.
I get that any retard can acquire a language but it's kind of sad that so many anons come into these threads who seem to have a fundamental lack of common sense and the ability to do basic research on things they are interested in learning. I swear if the guide recommended beginners to bleach their anus these threads would be full of posts complaining about burning sensations when they try to piss or shit.
Also, stop pointlessly spacing out your sentences. doubling the space your post takes up with line breaks is just fucking obnoxious.
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>>68664381
You accidentally posted a pic that wasn't your hand.
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>>68665381
>, even the guide and resource guide linked in the op provide links to better resources that those two you mentioned.

you mean the guide that doesn't work?

try going to http://djtguide.neocities.org/
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>>68665522
Oh no. Remember the CoRくん drama from last year? I hope this isn't gonna start that shit all over.
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>>68665522
Old guide is down too. http://djt.neocities.org/
Even the raw manga guide is down. http://compellingcontent.neocities.org/

Someone is trying to stop our pursuit of japanese
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So apparently Epwing2Anki likes to occasionally choose unrelated Kanji and keep the correct example sentences.
For example: 音頭 came up, but the example sentences still correctly say 温度

Is this because of the "automatically disambiguate entries" option, or is Epwing2Anki just broken?
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"これにこりずに、またよろしくおねがいします"

How would you translate this? I can only come up with "Thank you for your patience as I learn from this," but I don't know the context so it's the best I can come up with.
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>>68666651
これにこりずに is more like "without getting discouraged by this"
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>>68666651
Thank you for your patience as "I" learn from this,
loiing
why did you put "I" there instead "you" like "as you don't learn from this"?

i think;
Your help would be very appreciated.
I hope you would help me again without your getting discouraged by this
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friends, reading some novel by otsuichi and i don't understand this sentence

電信柱に迷い犬のチラシがはってあるのを見た

specifically チラシ
any help would be appreciated
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>>68669526
i figured it out myself, i'm a moron
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why do the japanese like to marry their cousins?
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>>68669957
Why won't you understand this is a thread for learning japanese and fuck off already?
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日本語の勉強をあきらめました。
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>>68669990
lol a macaque learning japanese
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>>68670013
そうか
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>>68670013
obligatory
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>>68670013
>>68670680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
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>>68665381
>implying "resource quality" matters for grammar
>implying it isn't just about gettng a quick summary and then picking it up from native material

90% of grammar study people do is about how people feel about the sentences and not about actually understanding them. You barely need any grammar study to understand most sentences, but for people learning their first foreign language it's a lot harder for them to learn to just accept things and realize they will understand them with time.
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>Doing my daily Anki
>Get to もっと
>Girl who gives an example sentence (which is just her saying "Please come closer") puts on a seductive as fuck voice

How the fuck am I supposed to concentrate on learning Japanese when she's making my dick hard by being a lewd slut?
For fuck sake she's lucky I'm close to being finished with this session otherwise I'd be fucked.
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>>68672750
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>>68672750
Just you wait for the guy to whisper もう寝よう to you in his suave voice.
I wasn't prepared for that myself
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>>68672750
It's that kind of emotional experience which will help you to remember even better.
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>>68671003
Where resource quality is important is for your grammar reference which you will refer back to during reading. I guess that's why most people use the dojg.
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>>68657929
Quality post, you might want to post it on /jp/, where people are more likely to be interested.
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>>68672750
I had a laugh when the guy put on an old man voice when the sample sentence referred to his grandson.
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>>68673380
i just used rikai chan desu
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What programm you use for ocr?
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>>68645485
The one under "Anki Startup Guide"

Don't spend too much time worrying about finding the best possible resources. They all lead to the same place eventually. Devote that energy to learning Japanese.
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>>68672750
>>68673087
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1laCpTnhPNN
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>>68676759
Took a while for me to get this word because I kept thinking about ramen.
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>>68676845
Udon > Soba
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>>68676845
That's what you get for skipping anime OP/EDs. You fucking troglodyte.
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>>68675392
Help recognize this kanji.
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>>68677143
Draw it in google translate.
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>>68677143
消極的な人は成功しないよ。

That font isn't all that terrible, looks like you need to become familiar with stroke order if it's confusing you.
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>>68677143
ととうのお
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>>68677221
It did not help.
I tries...
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>>68677143
天使つま先の女
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>>68677143
what I'm seeing here is "rabbit head man"?
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>>68677327
兎頭の男
>>68677556
I don't give context, this from manga
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>>68677556
And this man with rabbit head
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Let me get this straight, so people cried about djt being on /int/ cause muh flags (I don't like them either) some people started djt on /jp/ and it's actually accepted now.

Why is everyone still here then?
I mean I thought most people here actually wanted to leave /int/?

I don't even want to argue which is the better djt or something, I just find it rather sad that djt's userbase is split now.
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The anki guide says using "Custom Study" creates a new custom study deck, but that's not what happened for me. I clicked Custom Study and increased the new card limit, and now the original deck says I have new cards to learn, and there's no custom study deck.
So I don't understand how to revert this custom study new card limit increase among other things.
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>>68678589
All the disgusting weebs left and only the enlightened individuals remain.
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>>68678589
/int/ is for blogging.
Some people actually like /r9k/-tier blogs so they stay here where it's allowed. It keeps the /jp/ clean of such posts so I'm happy.
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>>68678811
>So I don't understand how to revert this custom study new card limit increase among other things.
You're stuck with the new cards until tomorrow, when they will dissappear if you have not seen them yet. If you still have lots of normal cards left, just suspend all your unseen cards, do your reps, and then unsuspend. It's the latter options of custom study that create a new deck that you delete when you're done
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>>68678862
>>>/jp/16266514
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>>68678927
Tons of blogposts were deleted in the past anon.
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>>68678850
I am still here though
And I am quite liking it here, it is cool noticing those japanese flags and seeing that the person is in fact a trve 日本人
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Is "ごめん、しりない" a correct way to answer a question that I don't know the answer to?
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>>68678917
Ok thanks. I'll just do 150 today :'^)
I only started the deck today but I have a lot of vocab from watching anime so this should be easy.
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>>68679092
わからない or わかりません
しらない can come off as rude, like "Who cares?"
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>>68679023
>lvl 1
Did you know Alicesoft games actually have their own general? It's on /vg/ but has a fair number of people who read in Japanese.
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>>68679182
I'm aware and the one playing ain't me. I am still not on that level so I just watch a bunch of random videos in Japanese for reading practice
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>>68679150

ああ、ありがとう!
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>>68678589
Only loud autist weebs wanted to leave, they left and can now stop being triggered by people posting with anime pictures in their safespace at /jp/. They were clearly the ones derailing and shitting up the language conversations on DJT since everything here is going smoother since they left.
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>>68678862
You need posts you call "blogging" to discuss language learning. Go back to your safespace and go blog about cartoon porn fuckmook.
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>>68678589
>/jp/
the people there are just horrible, just a quick look at the catalog is enough and you know that nothing of values comes from these autists
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>>68679328
I think /jp/ djt is kinda smooth as well now.

I just wish all Japanese learners would be friends and get 出来る together.
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俺として、この/int/と/jp/の競合をいただきたい
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>who cares
it's more like dunno. I would say しるかよ instead to mean who cares
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>>68681050
I have seen some instances where 知らない was translated as "I don't care" or something similar when whoever is saying it is mad
知るかよ does seem preferable in a more neutral situation
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知らんがな
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I always thought asians not being able to distinguish "R" and "L" was just a prejudice.

I found out that's actually the case, how the fuck?
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>>68681378
While you're at it, can you answer me why germans can't differenciate "W" and "V"?
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>>68682017
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>>68682017
I can't desu, it's either pronounced like "F" for words like "Vogel" or "W" for words like "Vagina"

Dunno do other languages pronounce V different?
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>>68682246
Huh, so Volkswagen would actually be pronounced Pholksvagen then?
Weird.
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Reading light novels is so fucking boring.
Thank 神様 for manga and visual novels.
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>>68681204
> 知らない
Unlikely. 知らん sure but not 知らない
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Is 入っこる some conjugation of 入る?
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>>68683087
>the attention span of the average american
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>>68683199
pretty sure that's a て
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>>68683199
入ってる
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>>68669957
水俣病:Minamata disease
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>>68683200
Reading is for faggots
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>>68683222
>>68683224
Ah, thanks
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>>68683279
Do americans actually say this unironically?
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>>68681204
>mad
yeah, actually we say that. girls/women like Anime often say もう知らない! I don't care anymore/I don't talk to you anymore!
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>>68674144
Thanks, I'll do a cross post in the JP thread.
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When people say reading is good for you does hat mean reading anything is good for you?

I persinally love reading because it makes me think.
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>>68684764
Yeah, as long as you're not reading manga because that's not reading
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>>68683373
It depends.
I've heard it be said as a joke, and in all seriousness as well.
A lot more while I lived in the South though.

>>68684764
Really makes you think
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What does それを私は身をもって実感した。
それを私 mean?
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>>68685350
Did you even understand the rest of the sentence before asking this?
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>>68685350
私は、身をもって、それを実感した
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>>68685492
>>68685553
I got something along the lines of. "I realized that even with my body." I'm glad I got it right even if I'm ass at grammar.
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Thinking of typing out all the sentences from my favorite manga in a .txt or whatever in a well organized way (since it has a lot of text and Kanji, and thought it could be a fun way to revisit it - yes I already it raw already).

My question is a bit dumb but, what is the English term for this? I've completely forgotten. I think some anon was doing the same for SZS the other day in a Raw Manga Thread.
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>second time mining into core

>yen means yen (money)
>but it also means circle, as in the geological shape
>even uses the same kanji

it only gets harder from here...doesn't it?
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>>68687286
Is the word you're looking for "transcribing"?
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>>68687469
This is so funny because I was digging the archives for it and your (You) popped at the same time I had finally found it.
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/150085795/#150148092

But yeah that's most likely the one, cheers.
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筆写 in Japanese apparently.
http://jisho.org/word/%E7%AD%86%E5%86%99

Example sentence even fits my intentions perfectly.
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this kanji makes sense.

you can see an hourglass on the left, and a cross on the right signifying death, with the hourglass' sand spilling off the table on the right

this is clearly the kanji for Time, undisputably so

if only all kanji made this sense
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>>68687636
It's 日 + 土 + 寸, there's nothing implying anything you just typed.
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Thus 寺, too.
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>>68687367
No. You're past the bump.
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>>68687742
what's the "bump"?
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>>68687678
>haven't learned about radicals

i swear to god i hope i don't have to relearn kanji later on
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>>68687804
If can't even reconogize such simple radicals/kanji you haven't learned anything to begin with, so "relearn" is a stretch.
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>>68687785
The difficulty bump.
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The only real difficulty bumps are when you start reading and when you start trying to ween yourself off subs.
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>>68687785
Ask your doctor
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Man at first I was excited to get to intermediate hell but now it's starting to feel a bit shitty
I hope it gets better soon
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>>68688310
It starts to get better once you've read and finished a bunch of stuff, and most of all, accepted the fact that it'll take your brain some time for it to get accustomed to the mountain of unfamiliar words there are out there.

Once you've secured the grammar aspects, new words acquisition start getting less frustrating because you're able to pinpoint them out in contexts and sentences you're able to grasp as a whole, rather than having fuzzy blocks and chunks like you'd have when you were beginners. Not sure if you follow me.
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>>68688425
I mean more the phase where grammar is less of a problem and you just have infinite vocab left to get through. But yeah just gotta read a lot. It does feel pretty swell when you see a yojijukugo again that you already mined earlier.
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How long does it take to get grammar to the point where you don't have to reference DoBJG every second line, even in baby's-first-manga? Couple months?
I'm still toiling in the Core2k mines, and have yet to start reading (beyond random snippets of things I see posted on 4chan). I understand most of what I've seen in Tae Kim but fuck me if I can remember any of those rules offhand. Except for super basic stuff like te form and past/negative tense.
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Sorry for blogging but holy shit, I'm gonna do it lads.

I will finally be free of this hell.
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>>68689704
just start reading nigger
it takes you however long it takes you
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>>68689704
10000 hours of anime
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>>68688310
Vocab hell will end before long. But then you have reading speed hell to get through
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>>68689802
>start reading with only 200 words in core6K; none of them Mature
I'll start reading once I hit 2000.
But okay, thanks.

>>68689811
先輩、ありがとうございます
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>>68689948
>start reading with only 200 words in core6K; none of them Mature
This is what I did
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