Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1767

>Junior year second semester
>Got lazy with class sign ups
>Might be forced to take JPN 1
Pray for me.

Fuck /jp/, let's stay here.

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>>68274416
you need us?

>>68274996
/int/ is a shithole where we can do basically anything and no one cares. It's perfect for DJT. DJT is incompatible with /jp/.

>>68275093
>/int/ is a shithole where we can do basically anything and no one cares
t. /int/ blogger

>>68277480
>bumping it
neck じぶん

>>68277480
やっぱブラジル人だった

>>68277535
>neck じぶん
Don't do it anon, you have so much to live for.

glad this shit thread moved to another board. it no doubt was out of place.

i couldnt like those DJT fags. they just want to speculate about the ways to learn the language, not about the language itself, and were just another fucking lazy anonymounses like those only watching lets play this game videos on YT without playing games but shitting on everything about it. they wont ever be able to make it.

>>68277940
Are you one of those /int/ posters?

>>68277940
How is it out of place, all the language learning threads on 4chan are on /int/. The thread has been more about language learning here than anywhere else, where people insult the people learning as being bloggers because they don't simply talk about manga, anime and VNs.

>>68278029
i dont get what you mean but i post on /int/ for now. i defended them at first but noticed most of them are typical spineless fags who wont even give it a try in japanese. they seem more weaker than /int/ japanese posters

>>68277940
>>68278190
アスぺか

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>>68278151
For one side I agree - being able to "blog" on /int/ (a.k.a. mention anything that is not a 2hu's pussy) is cool and if /jp/ sperglords cut it short, I will quit.

On the other hand, DJT is the only serious language learning thread on /int/, a multicultural cesspit of memes where we are slowly losing quorum and can only be replaced by normalfags.

I am a huge weeb and my main medium of consumption is Doujin music - for which my Nippongo knowledge will become very handy. But how the fuck am I supposed to post only about that the entire time?
Even when I did it back in /a/ it was plainly ignored or shunned down, so I'm sure talking about Japanese in general will get me more input when I need it. Forcing learning through "on-topic media" will just hinder me back.

>>68278372
>where we are slowly losing quorum and can only be replaced by normalfags
we need to run them off when they show up here. anyone who talks about taking college classes needs to be shitposted into oblivion as they have been in the past

>>68278151
they wont do it but do circlejerking. i posted some detailed descriptions about the grammars here but none of them gave it a thought. same goes for what other relatively rational japanese posters did

>>68278251
thats all you can do. its crystal clear now that you are far shitter and more bigoted than learners on lang-8

>>68278541
No.

>>68278614
Fuck off.

>>68278614
>some detailed descriptions about the grammars
for example, what descriptions did you post here?

>>68278372
I believe that if reasonable people such as you and me tell the shunners to fuck off and "self-moderate" these people back to /a/, /jp/ and the japaneseスレ, we can make /djt/ all that it was meant to be, an example of what language learning threads are meant to be, and have the other /int/ language threads follow our lead to bring /int/ back from the depths of shitposting. Let's bring back a quality standards, and eventually propose a list the ethics to the mods who then can moderate the crap out of all these language threads. (Rules such as no spoonfeeding info that is in the guide, yet giving the benefit of the doubt that any proper question is never too stupid as to be shat upon, and should be answered as is possible with a decent amount of respect, since language learners come in every form, beginner, intermediate and advanced)

>>68278840
We don't seem to be on the same page. The advantage of /int/ is having no overmoderation which is also a problem when it comes to board culture.

>>68278541
I like this.

>>68278840
Different anon here. That would be a change for the better in my eyes, but you have to understand that what you're proposing here is that we, by ourselves, try to change an entire board's mindset. The rest of /int/ is here because they like its current board culture, and you know what? If they enjoy flag banter and country chatrooms, good for them. I don't, which is why I don't frequent /int/, and I imagine most of you share my opinion, but to /int/ natives that's not undesirable or shitposting, and I don't think we should try (or would be able to) to force our 理想の/int/ onto them.

>>68279073
That's why I posted my example of what the rules of etiquette would be. Let me be clearer with my idea.

The rules of etiquette would be for creating the optimal language learning environment, but not be a safe space or anything as silly or restrictive. These rules would make it so that if someone acts like a shitter, derailing the thread or simply insulting people, we would for the most part report these people and get them banned. These rules are for us, not for the mods, and as such they would only moderate when we mass report these particular people.

If these standards work out, the rules of etiquette could be stickied on /int/ for other language learning threads to follow, again without mod interference unless the people in the threads mass report individuals who obviously are being shitters and not even trying to follow these behavioral rules proposed in the sticky.

>>68279288
Yes I understand, but from what I can see, the flags were disruptive here for the first few days but it quickly subsided. The rest of /int/ which isn't language learning threads can keep doing whatever, what I'm proposing is a rule of etiquette for language learning threads specifically. Flag shitposting could be one of the rules, although it may not even be necessary seeing as /djt/ hasn't been subject to flag shitposting these past few days for the most part.

>>68279624
Fuck off leafy

>>68279624
Exactly my point, DJT is the only actual language learning thread on /int/ and it was forcefully moved here. We can't propose special rules for one thread or force other similarly minded threads to appear out of nowhere.

Why are there two DJT's? Which one is the real one?

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>>68280021
Only time will tell. And I'll cheat and go to bed.

Good luck in whichever board proves to be true.

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おはようおにいちゃん

かようびのあさに

なにたべよっか

>>68280217
What the hell? It's 18:00 here.

>>68279961
We can propose rules as guidelines against what we deem reportable behavior for shitting up language learning, and if these etiquette rules work for us, we can have the mod sticky them for other threads to follow. If the other threads want to follow these guidelines or not is up to them, but maybe some other language learning threads on /int/ are plagued by shitposting and wish to bring a standard of quality so as to be more efficient for the anons wishing to learn.

And heck, if only /djt/ changes for the better but not the rest of /int/, so be it. At least we'll have made /djt/ better than the turd it became on /a/ or the attempted turd present on /jp/ as we speak.

>>68280249
And? NEET's don't keep regular sleep schedules. For instance i usually go to bed around noon.

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>>68280249
あさの5じだよ

ごはんのじゅんびしよ

ごはんのじゅんびはたのしいぞい

Etymologically speaking, is 彼女 derived from 彼の女子?

I guessed mainly foreign animales are Amricans or Bragiles
this thread proved

What I've gathered so far

Recommended way to practice vocab: Anki

Recommended way to practice listening: subs2srs

Recommended way to practice reading: Manga/VN/Light Novels/Literature (not any one choice necessarily better than the others)

Recommended way to practice grammar: DBJG Anki deck after reading grammar book of choice

Recommended way to practice pronunciation: ???

Is this accurate?

>>68280947
no, manga is not reading

>>68280377
I don't think it's possible to change /int/, the people here are too used to blogposting and random chatting, they'll never accept any other way. But that's no reason why we have to let DJT turn into that too, it's entirely possible to maintain a high quality general isolated from the rest of the shitty board. That's exactly what all my other generals do, after all.

Just need to make clear the kind of posts we expect here and redirect/report shitposting.

>>68281004
Fuck off.

>>68280620
かれのではなくて

かのじゃないかなあ

彼(か)の岸(きし)というのは
彼岸(ひがん)のことで

生まれた命はいつかはいかなきゃいけないどこかのことだよ

>>68280620
彼 just means "that, there"

彼方 - that way, over there
彼女 - that woman = she


as an asian girl i hate disgusting white male supremacists like you. you are not welcome in asia. stay in your mom's basement.

>>68282431
damn south korea with da bantz XD

>>68281574
そうか
>>68282431
姦

>>68282431

And you're not welcome in Japan because hates Korea and its population

>>68282560

Japan hates*

What kanji did you learn today?

I learned:

闖
樋
橘
襁
褓
漣
寐
湊
偃
蝎
頚
舊
體
燼
輌
缺
艙
駑
按
舫
骶
撻
夥
瀑
繙
綾
鴇
磊
麾
欅
臾
朔
帛
閾
瞠
纂

>>68282683
Did you learn any useful kanji?

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>>68282683
漢検1級でも取るの?

あんまりやくにたたないとおもうよ

>>68282889
I already know all the useful ones.

>>68282934
No I learned them from reading manga.

>>68282937
I don't know all of the useful ones yet but I still know quite a few of the ones you posted.

秩序のない勉強

>>68283040
Well I was exaggerating, I would consider all of the ones I posted useful, otherwise I wouldn't bother learning them. I just meant I know all the common ones already. :^)

>>68283219
Japanese is just only jealous.
Don't mind.

おにいちゃん朝風呂はいってね

くさいから

No wonder i couldnt find this thread anywhere on a

>>68283890
You don't know kanji at all.

>>68271686
Im in the same boat excpet im freshman ans should be taking jpn 2

>>68280231
うるせい、お前

>>68282683
樋
橘
湊
夥
綾
朔
瞠
these are only usefull

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>>68282683
For example, there is a kanji of the left.
That is a kanji has most strokes in the world.
Though no one can read it. That is to say, it is useless.

There is a kanji of the right.
Those kanjis were made by Kithan they are kinds of Mongolians.
Though they are not used in the world today.
Therefore they are useless.

Today's kanji is common between Japan and China.
So it is usefull.
Kanji has a meaning of uniformity.

That is to say, you should not use kanji that other people don't know.

>>68284275
>うるせい
昭和っぽい

>>68284339
What does it mean?

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/int/, さよなら

>>68274996
先生、教えてお願い!

>>68284471
古臭い

>>68284315
I learn kanji that I see while reading. All of those characters are in somewhat common words. I won't go through all of them, but here are the first few:

闖入者
雨樋
橘
襁褓
漣
夢寐

etc.

>>68284837
what manga are you reading

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>>68284593
断だ
るが

>>68284865
Lot's of manga, to be fair those are from about 200 words mined from the last few months, I just didn't get to adding them until today. I'm already mostly fluent.

>>68284909
This means "is it confirmed?"
If so yes, it is confirmed

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>>68284685
This means stale!

>>68285159
"I refuse, so what?"

>>68285247
Is that the meaning to 断だるが?
If so then ask again, お願い、教えてください!

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How many new cards should I be studying in anki per day?
Most people say 20 for stuff like Core2K, but since anki has an option to test writing as well as recognition does that mean 20 cards (10 new words, front/back) or 20 new words per day (so instead 40 cards).

>>68285368
he says ”だが断る”

>>68285368
だが断る! is a meme phrase.

>>68285700
memes are banned on 4chan

>>68285700
>>68285679
Anime was right, nips really are thick headed.

>>68285679
Oh

>>68285747
ha?

WHEN YOU WALK AWAY

>>68285947
ハh?

How do i write 削除用 in furigana?

>>68286257
にゃくにょにょう

>>68286344
No liar

>>68286399
Sorry, I have a cold.

Is there a site or something that has a list of onyomi (ordered by frequency, for example) that I can click to see all the related kanji?

For example in case someone wants to learn all the kanji with the onyomi コウ.

Also don't you sometimes get the feeling that the kanji with the same reading have some semantic content in common? Even when the radicals are different. Might just be my autism.

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>>68285740
>memes are banned on 4chan

>>68286417
How can you have a cold on the internet?

Does 建造物 only mean building?

>>68286476
Just like you can have autism on the internet.

>>68286665
Autism is a myth anon

>>68286635
yes

I need daily English thread
I hope someone makes it

>>68287088
This is daily english thread

>>68287088
What do you need help with?

>>68287143
How do you call in English a kitten on human's lap is purring and snuggling and never wants to pull off?
We call it in Japanese "甘えん坊の子猫"

>>68285516
Please, anyone?
I appreciate its a boring question but it seems important I should ask.

>>68287409
There isn't a specific phrase for what you're referring to, what you already wrote to describe it is pretty good.

>>68287492
The popular way in /djt/ is to not worry about production cards because it will slow you down. So 20 new cards at least.

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Is this example sentence incorrectly translated?

Shouldn't it be "I'm going to see a movie by myself today?" I don't see anything that could make it past-tense.

>>68287614
It could also be "I'm seeing movies alone today", in which case they could have already seen at least one movie, but yes, the translation is misleading if you don't know anything about japanese grammar.

>>68287563
thanks
When you want to watch the video of it on youtube, what phrase do you choice for search?

>>68287589
Gotcha. Thanks.

But shit that sounds like a lot. I have trouble with rention so my reviews are going to be crazy.

>>68287614
>>68287682
>I'm seeing movies alone today
this is the best translation

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Hey djt, lazy quitter here.
I've studied for a year and then kinda threw it all away at one point, that was 2 years ago.
Now, I still watch tons of anime every day and I think my vocal understanding never really deteriorated that much. I still have a good grasp on the grammar and basic vocabulary. Only problem is that I forgot pretty much every kanji and reading I ever got into my brain.
If I were to pick up studying again what would you recommend? Start off with easy manga all over again? Build up a new anki collection? (My old one's gone)
I feel like there's still some progress left I could build on but I'd hate to start at the bottom again because I can't read shit.

Can anyone recommend me an Anki deck for counters and an Anki deck for numbers?

>>68288336
>よつば
服に膝を突っ込むって

えいごだと簡単に言える?

にほんごに多分そのことばない

>>68288336
Just start with whatever you left off, you might find it hard at first but you'll quickly pick up the things you forgot.

If that doesn't really work out for you then go back to the basic. There's no reason to go directly back to them.

>>68271161

rare

What are some tasty japanese memes?

>>68288675
Not being depressed

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>>68288675
>tasty
my vote goes for いんむ

>>68288336
Do the core deck. It has all the basic words you need and it's already made for you so less work.

>>68287409
>How do you call in English a kitten on human's lap is purring and snuggling and never wants to pull off?
The word we would use for something acting like that is "clingy". It has other (often negative) uses but this is the closest, I think,
>>68287878
so to answer this I would say search for "clingy kitten"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwB9kjAO44k

>>68288765
I've researched 淫夢語録 so many times and I still don't get it. The memes are simply too dank for me to grasp yet. It reminds me of baneposting.

>>68288467
英語にもそんな言葉ないと思うよ。普通にしないことだし。

>>68288467
No, I don't think we have a word for that. Maybe a meme will come about that describes it someday.

>>68288814
There's also "being affectionate".

>>68289074
That too. "Affectionate kitten" would work.

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>>68288929
>researching memes
no thats not like that

you breath in
you breath out

you get it someday
or you dont get it forever

no one gets hurt

>>68288814
aww
thanks the video is what I wanted to watch

>>68289161
>why don't you bump DJT in /jp/
The mods made it so that it automatically sages in there. They don't want us there. They did you a favor by not banning your ass for making that thread. Now go away.

Is it necessary to get a separate deck for counters and numbers or will I be okay just reading compelling content and sticking with 6k

>>68289314
Why would you force yourself to memorize counters out of context?

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>>68288675
It's wagashi.
I'm irresponsible.

How many people would be interested in an English-learning thread if one were made?

>>68289386

You need to know them, don't you?

>>68289382

Nope

>>68289417
i would visit spanish chinese french leaening thread but english?

>>68289417
>How many people would be interested in an English-learning thread if one were made?
What purpose does that have on an English speaking imageboard?

>>68289417
Would it be for all ESLs? Usually people talk about the language and how to learn it in their native tongue. I think English speakers would shitpost in it too much to be honest.

>>68289218
does not make sense. why would a japanese culture board ban a japanese language thread? what's the reason?

What is the difference between 最大 and 最大限?

>>68289417
Were an english thread made, I would participate.
Did I use the subjunctive right?

>>68289679
Yes, but it makes you sound kind of weird.

>>68289679
Subjunctive isn't used that much in conditions that have no strings attached in english these days.

>>68289624
Because it's a board about otaku culture, not language-learning.

>/jp/
it's /2hu/ general actually

有給とれ means paid right?

>>68289923
it means
take paid absence

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>>68290050
Thank you kamen rider!

I made a mining deck but the colours aren't what I want them as

I have the Kore deck along with it's style code which makes the background black and text white, yet that same style code doesn't work on the deck I created.

Any help?

>>68290186
Learn CSS.

よく分からない

>>68290383
よく分けない

>>68290422
:(

I memorized all of the radicals because it only took a day and they help me remember words, but should I use a vocab deck like Core/Kanji Damage or an individual kanji deck like Dark Japanese that's sorted by radicals?

I tried kanji damage, but got tired of learning how to pronounce incest, rape, super rape, etc.

>>68290639


Kanji study is not for everyone. I've seen many people spend years on RTK before doing anything else.

Readers can benefit from kanji study, but it's extremely important to limit it, so that it doesn't interfere with your reading.

The best kanji study, IMO, is only "intentionally" studying a kanji if it's in a hard word in something you're reading, and that word keeps coming up.

It's with great regret that I give a selection of good isolated kanji study resources. Please don't learn kanji in isolation unless you cannot learn japanese any other way, and therefore cannot read raw manga.

If you insist on studying kanji in isolation, I highly recommend a particular doraemon-themed kanji study book meant for elementary schoolers. If you can't read simple japanese, use Conning's Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course instead, because it narrowly avoids the worst pitfalls of other common english-language kanji resources.

If you can't handle using a book, try GeneticKanji, Kanjidamage, or Wanikani. Note that WK is a subscription paid service that will cost a bare minimum three digits in USD before you reach a reasonable level in what it's teaching you, and you should avoid it unless you REALLY cannot use a book and REALLY need a spoonfeeding service.

Kanji writing practice is very time consuming and should only be done in low volume, or if you really want to handwrite kanji.

Are there any good radical decks?

What is キチガイ?

>>68290782
Someone who has a unique air about them

ともかく、パンツのバーゲンほしい
パンツ屋を呼びましょう

>>68290779
kangxi radicals 2016

>>68290674

It sounds like I should give KD's vocab deck another try, then, even though I'll memorize useless words in the beginning. Radicals make things easy for me, I just got tired of the irrelevant words.

>>68290782
it means crazy but it's considered derogatory and is often censored. you could compare it to "retard".

>>68289655
最大: utmost
最大限: maximum (the highest limit)

>>68290779

I didn't even bother to ask that on here (although I had the same question) because sometimes it's hard to get an honest answer out of this thread without getting insulted

I'm going with this one https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1044119361

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>>68290896
Thank you

what's the difference between 'yoroshiku' and 'yoroshiku onegaishimasu'
is one just more polite? i'm trying to talk to a japanese person on twitter and they just introduced themself, should i also say yoroshiku onegaishimasu?

>>68291108
if you want to come off as caual yet respectful, "どうぞよろしく" ought to work.

>>68291147
thank you!
sorry to ask again but i want to compliment their artwork(because they are an artist). should i say あなたのアートワークが好きです or is there something that sounds better? or would that be a weird thing to say?

>>68291219
you sound like you need to learn japanese before you talk to japanese people on twitter

to answer your question あなた is stiff as hell and so is アートワーク

>>68291437
sorry.. i posted some of my own artwork so they followed me and started talking, i just wanted to be accommodating.

龘

>>68291527
驫

>>68291527
>中国語
死ね

>>68291570
龗

中二病患者の検疫スレッド

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じゃ、ショッピングにカードをキャンセルするために、今日は早く起きる。 暗記の flashcardsを覚えて、シャワーを浴びて、出かけます。ショッピングには大変ステキな女性を観る。彼女が背が低くてブロンドだ。完璧な足の指あります。目が黒い色だ。Legのズボンを履いて、頬がピンクです。彼女も十字架嵌めります。完璧な女性。王女のように観えます。私はちょうど見つめた。そして大学に行って、働きます。図書館さんです。

>>68291795
とっとと死ね
観
履
図書館さん
なんだこりゃ
ブログをよそで貼れ ここでやるな

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>>68291965

Sorry just training my japanese skills

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ここは噂のブログスレですね。というわけでうんこしちゃいます。僕のお穴をよろしくお願い致します。

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>>68292041
とても良く練習して頑張っているのが分かるよ。

>図書館さんです。
かわいいよ、とってもかわいいよ。この部分は直さないで欲しい。きっと日本で人気者になれるよ。

おめこ
Omekooooooooooooo!!!!!!

>>68292402
Omedetou gozaimasu ne? Ore no Nigga

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頑張ってもできない人、
この世には居ます
良く考えましょう

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>>68292391

日本さんありがとうございました!

じゃこのスレの中に練習してもいいですか?

if you allow me, everyday i'll post here for training my writing.

:3

>>68292584
ﾖ･ｿ･ﾃﾞ･ﾔ･ﾚ

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続けたまえ

>>68292771
なにを

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>>68288970
>>68289052
さんかくずわり(たいいくずわり)をしないって聞いたことがあったきがするよ

あたしたちはなぜか、服に膝を突っ込みたくなるよ。

冬よく見るよこういうの。行儀はすごくわるい

>>68292946
ホモセックスかな
流れ的に

I thought you guys were meming when you said that it was a bad idea to take classes. I've got a friend who's studying Japanese at community college, and he even proclaims it as his major. He's in Japanese 3 or 4 (I can't remember), but he didn't know what 'きっと勝つ' meant.

Four semesters of study and hundreds of dollars in tuition and books for what can be accomplished in six months of self-study.

>>68293073
Why are you friends with a retard of that caliber?

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>>68292971
さらに、さんかくずわりの

なまえがちいきでちがうらしいよ

にほんのどこかに「さんかくずわり+膝を服に突っ込む」の名前もあるかもしれない

安産座り

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おっぱい

>>68293126
いじめはダメですよ
日本語の能力なんかどうでもいいことは友情には関係ないよね

>>68293306
それで女子からかったら

ドロップキックもんだよ

>>68293073
>he didn't know what 'きっと勝つ' meant
How did you ask him? Did you show him this text or did you say it to him with your horrible pronunciation?
>Heydoyouknowwhatkittokatsu means? You don't? What a retard hahaha gonna tell the internet about this

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>>68293323
お前はいい奴だ

>>68293358
butthurt collegecuck detected

>>68293358
no matter how badly your friend pronounces きっと勝つ I don't think it excuses not recognizing it
and not knowing the meaning/cultural connotation of that phrase a year into learning the language is embarrassing

>>68292584
>中に
中で

I asked on /jp/ but that thread is dead
>How do i say 'I hope my Japanese is understandable'
>I don't know what the word for understandable is

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せっかく/int/にいるんだし

この姿勢を表すnounは世界のどこかにはあるんじゃないかなあ

>>68293639
Ask on /jp/, this thread isn't being used.

>>68293639
You shouldn't be trying to directly translate English into Japanese like that.

>>68293656
やめろって
>>68293667
Ok, what should I be saying instead?

>>68293690
Ask /jp/.

>>68293706
please

>>68293592
I'm not though?
>>68293599
If it's badly pronounced and out of context his friend might not have recognized it. And while I think everyone should learn what that means it isn't necessarily an indication that you don't know anything. People are still filling in all the missing gaps, especially a year in.

>>68293639
僕の下手な日本語が通じたら嬉しく思いますが

>>68293804
>嬉しく思います
Is this allowed

>>68293850
It comes up in formal speech.

>>68293639
私の日本語を、分かってもらえればそれでいいと思いますけれど
とにかく伝えたいのは、私はゲイということで、
だけどあんまり気にしないでほしい、お互い幸せに生きられる為に

>>68293880
アメリカではゲイは多いの?

>>68293758
>If it's badly pronounced and out of context his friend might not have recognized it.
This is really far-fetched, it's just 2 words that you'd know within the first week you started studying the language.
Though I'll grant you that's probably more reason to doubt that somebody a year in doesn't know them, of course

I wonder if Jesus spoke Japanese

>>68291506
Post it here baka yarou
I posted some galactic homos fanart and japs started following me, it was great.

>>68293804
Thanks
I don't use boku so I'll switch it with watashi, but is it necessary to use boku/watashi in this sentence or can I leave it out? Also, does this sound a bit formal?
>>68293880
ありがとう、でもゲイじゃないよwww

>>68294001
>is it necessary to use boku/watashi in this sentence
You should try learning japanese one day

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>>68293975
yes he did

>>68294025
I'm trying

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>tfw kanji can eat a dick.

I can converse here fine, live here okay, yet I failed N5 by a point cus of kanji and that horrible word order section.

Might retake it next year or might not.

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>>68293975
He was buried there.

>>68294069
Sorry, but you are not smart enough to live in japan. Leave, now.

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>>68294069
>failed N5 because of kanji

>>68294069
N5?
wut?

>>68294069
How do you fuck up that badly?

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>>68293960
>it's just 2 words that you'd know within the first week you started studying the language.
I would never recommend taking college courses but to its credit it does teach something. It's just that maybe you won't learn those words until later on and it probably wouldn't be that specific phrase.

I don't know, I guess I'm more annoyed that anon was putting down his friend for not knowing something. Maybe he should help him out with his studies if he's going to bother pointing it out at all.

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キリストが街を歩いていると、群衆が女に石を投げていてた。
キリストが群衆の1人に『何故石を女に投げているのか』と尋ねると 、
その者が『女は罪人だからだ』と答えた。
それを聞いたキリストが群衆に向かって
『それでは今まで誰も罪を犯したことのない者だけが石を投げよ』と群衆に言った。
群衆は反省して一人、また一人と去っていき、
最後に石を投げているのはキリストだけとなった 。

>>68294101
>>68294104
>>68294105
>>68294107

The sad part is I actually studied, but didn't really care that much about the test, it was just motivation to get my Japanese up to the level where I can converse and live here fine, which it did, passing would be a bonus.

Plus my girlfriend speaks really good english so apart from at work parties or chatting with salarymen at the bar, I don't particularly need much more than I have now.

Still, would've been nice to pass. The hardest was trying to put words in the correct order in the sentance.

>>68294165
Alright now, you've had enough attention. Fuck off and die.

So I can listen to podcasts and although I can't really follow the conversations I can understand a lot of words and pick out whole sentences somewhat frequently.

How fast will I improve if I just listen to podcasts 12 hours a day for a month?

>tfw community is divided on whether we should be on /int/ or /jp/

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>>68294165
>Plus my girlfriend
はぁあ?!

>>68294182

Is this not the thread to discuss the JLPT?

What part did you find hardest anons?

>>68294165
too bad

will get better next time

>>68293073
What does it mean?
Kitto if I'm remembering from anime correctly is van adverb implying absoluteness, and I think that's the kanji for Kachi as in victory. Never seen it conjugated with a tsu on the end (though Im a beginner if that wasn't abundantly clear).

I'm guessing it means "Certain Victory"?

>>68294211
This is not the thread for blogging. Now fuck off and die.

>>68294204
Why not both? Japs and blogs here, and weebs and VNs on /jp/. Sounds good to me.

>>68294204
you guys can choose to get merged with 日本語スレ

>>68294235
a simple google image search should tell you what you don't know

>>68294246
>Japs and blogs here
maybe >>68294251 has a point

>>68293918
ゲイが多いかといえば、他の国とあんまり変わらないと思うんだけど、
ニューヨークとサンフランシスコなど、アメリカの人の密度が高い場所ゲイが大体認められてるから、同性愛者だってことを隠してる割合が低いと思う

アジアはまだその点割りと狭量なので、結果ゲイがゲイだって明らかにしてる人が少なくて、ゲイが少ないの錯覚できる

>>68294069
>N5
>kanji

BRくんはすごく怒ったw、落ち着いてください

ベートに返答しないに覚えておいてください

>>68294251
Basically what's going to happen. Maybe the one on /jp/ will survive but for people staying here we might as well just go to the other thread and spread the anki gospel there.

>>68294211
DJT is generally for people actually trying to learn Japanese instead of normies who put no effort in and then complain when their lack of effort doesn't get them anywhere. Your post basically reads like "I'm too stupid to learn Japanese but at least I have a girlfriend" so you can understand why it would not be appreciated.

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What the hell, I woke up to see the winner and... both boards are the winner.

What if /jp/ janny has decided to allow one or two editions and then ban us again, just to create more dispersion?
What if he's so assburger that he's decided to datamine everyone posting on the so hated DJT threads before banning it again, to have a blackmailing device?

Key wo tsukete, meana-san.

>>68294392
I think the mods have just realised that banning a Japanese learning thread on /jp/ is ridiculous, so are letting things play out.
If you want to move to /jp/, aim to make as many quality, on-topic posts as possible there so we get to stay. If you want to stay here, go ahead, no one's stopping you.

>>68294392
The mods autosaged the other thread. We're staying here.

>>68294581
autosage is kinda pointless on /jp/

一時間

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>>68294392
>mfw here, in /a/'s raw manga thread and now looking in the /jp/ thread
I've never been on so many boards at the same time.

And because I know that autist is lurking here I don't mean to say that the thread on /a/ is /djt/, just that it's a place where people who know Japanese congregate.

聞く開く

this shit is so hard to read guys

>>68294728
If anything DJT is more alive than ever, I remember when we were trapped in 1 thread. We get a chance to see the culture of other boards, my favourite was our brief visit to /qst/. It's certainly been interesting.

>>68294806
You're just bad.

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>>68294855
I know

>leave home at 8am for three consecutive docotrs appointments
>go straight to work after
>finally get home
>only 8 hours until i have my 13 hour shift tommorow
>really need to study japanese

i'm considering pulling an all nighter and just yolo-ing this shit. this is why japanese is so hard to learn.

>>68294728
They killed it on /a/ but only managed to spread the spawn to two other boards. thanks mods

>>68294912
Language acquisition is a NEET hobby, get out

>>68294806
>聞く
耳
>開く
You open the gate

>>68294912
You're going to die before you learn Japanese anyhow sarcoidosis-kun.

>>68294991
attend my funeral

>>68294975
actually I mean telling them apart as they're written here. I can barely make out the 耳

>>68294366
This is so true. Why cant we just go home already. I dont want a flag sticking to my comments

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>>68294728
>>68294834
>>68294932

>>68294991
Get your parents to write out a post containing the information regarding your funeral and I'll buy plane tickets for all of DJT to come see you off.

>>68295049
You can make text bigger if you need it.

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>>68295066

>>68295080
Leave the literal autist alone.

>>68295056
Come to /jp/ then. I almost think it's better than /a/, it'll have less shitposting due to better moderation and we can talk about VNs more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhP_VZtAuro
I'm in love with Takepan. When I try to look at it objectively, she isn't that cute, but I am so attracted to her for some reason. I feel so confused.

This is the same way I felt about Hikasa Youko.

>>68294392
Read the other thread entirely. It's all shitposts and /qa/ shit. Consensus seems to indicate that /int/ is the better choice.

>>68295236
Int is a lot better. The quality of jp is very very low.

>>68295236
I don't think you'll find anything resembling a consensus either here or there
DJT isn't a tight band of buddies anyway, just a gaggle of rogue shitposters. To each his own. And these /int/ threads were chock full of metaposts when they started.

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>mfw

>>68295293
kill yourself faggot

>>68295293
pop quiz:

A. Tsu
B. N
C. Si
D. None of the Above

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>>68295293

>>68295236
You can't really judge these things based off of the first few threads. There's a few really autistic people who have strong opinions about where the thread will be and will result in a lot of /qa/ type discussion. But maybe if the thread settled there that would die out, or if the autists remained maybe they would get banned.

>>68295303
ｼ

>>68295274
And the quality of /int/ isn't low? Have you looked at the board outside of this thread?
Either way we'll be the one good thread in a sea of trash, but /jp/ has spoiler tags and no flags. Seems obvious to me.

djt is a great idea ruined by bloggers/study method warring/off topic shitposting and circle jerking by special flowers who think djt is/was their private domain within a board.
please keep these threads on topic or let djt die for good.

Not sure I get this construction :
https://www.google.co.jp/#q=%22%E3%81%84%E3%81%9F%E3%82%8A%E3%81%AA%E3%82%93%E3%81%A0%E3%82%8A%E3%81%A7%22
>いたりなんだりで
Someone helps making it click please?

>>68295191
Yes, she has a very approachable, amicable face and that makes her cute, but at the same time she has an ugly nose and teeth. It's really confusing for the brain to make a decision. You're not alone.

>>68295410
Basically a cross between なんだかんだで
and the たり たり structure

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>>68295293
半角カナのシだね

>ｼ

半角カナは今は使わなないことになっているけど

銀行とかの古いシステムに使われてたりするんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

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>>68295439
I see, that's what I thought from the context of those sentences but it still felt vague to me. Thanks.

Second question, I realized earlier I never really learned when 入る should be read はいる or いる and would just randomly pick one or the other without putting me thought into it. How do you guys know when to read one or the other, is there a trick to it? Pic related as an example.

>>68295393
On topic is what, japanese cartoons and comics? What you listed is discussion relating to language learning, which is what DJT is.

Go on the raw thread on /a/ if you want your weeb safe space, you're the type of person derailing DJT, not the other people who post what you listed.

>>68295481
It's はいる outside of longer words like 踏み入る for which you should check a dictionary but it will usually be いる

>>68295191
This videos seem very good for shadowing since the pitch is very clear and the speech is not so fast

>>68295481
It's read はいる
The いる reading is old, it's in compounds like 食い入る 踏み入る like >>68295517 said and outside of that there's also 入り(いり)
e.g. 人肉入り

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>>68295393
Your mistake was treating DJT like a tool

DJT is a community of people coming together to learn Japanese.

It is not your personal classroom that you can safely pretend other people don't exist

>>68295481
is this /ss/?

>>68295564
Stop avatarfagging you fucking faggot, I swear whenever I've opened this thread these past few days I see one of your worthless posts.

http://desuarchive.org/int/search/filename/adachi6_by_egocentric_adachi-d8xd3a7.png/
http://desuarchive.org/int/search/image/3eES9bz58-6_kyTblJqiDg/
Fucking scum.

>>68295564
Says the worst blog poster of them all.

>>68295517
>>68295562
Cheers.
Also helped :
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q103071965

>>68295604
https://exhentai.org/g/866645/180a0aabb3/
https://exhentai.org/g/943221/85e951c045/
https://exhentai.org/g/978941/d3b9e0bd4f/

>>68295489
>>68295564

and that's exactly why djt was finally removed from /a/

thanks for confirming why you were moderated to /int/
>
DJT is a community of people coming together to learn Japanese.
there is a place for that it's called reddit.

>>68295604
I don't know what /ss/ refers to though. Mind enlightening me?

>>68295618
>>68295621
If that post didn't have that image attached, I wonder what you guys would have posted instead

"Wow he's right"

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>>68295562
入り がおにいちゃんたちにむずかしいとは

いがいだなあ

>大入(おおいり)

これは?Ankiしてるのかな?

>>68295688
Their disgust at your hypocrisy doesn't imply they disagree.

>>68295688
How egocentric can you be?

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>>68295720
you really shocked at an adachiposter playing devil's advocate?

>>68295666
Actually reddit is better as a place where people just ask questions. Nobody is going to stick around in an anonymous thread just to help answer the same beginner questions over and over. The only way a thread like this survives on 4chan is if people have discussions outside of direct language questions.

On reddit, on the other hand, people get imaginary points for answering beginners questions and get to be worshipped for googling things and summarizing the chiebukuro post they found.

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>>68295688
>"Wow he's right"
No, that isn't what I would have said. The reason why talking about yourself is looked down upon is because it makes shitposters like you thrive and make this thread your personal blog.
I don't really mind it in moderation but because it WILL be taken too far it needs to be shot down.

>>68295720
>>68295737
So you agree, you just don't like the poster you are agreeing with

Cool glad we got that sorted.

back to learning japanese

>>68295666
Learning a language is reddit now? How old are you? Don't answer that, just grow the fuck up son.

>>68295769
>is because it makes shitposters like you thrive

I'm unsure how you would have come to that consensus if that image was not attached to that post.

Please elaborate, anon.

>>68295775
>>68295833
Being anon is a privilege, if you rip that off don't come crying people are calling you a giant faggot for it.

And stop pretending to be other other anons as a way to protect your shattered ego.

>>68295833
>I'm unsure how you would have come to that consensus
Because I've seen people's past behaviors. This is a universal thing, not just /djt/. And the fact that it's so easy to tell who you are means you're a cancerous avatarfag. Even without your pictures it doesn't change your post quality.

Shouldn't you be studying right now? I don't want to hear how hard you're working and how much you sacrifice when you're here posting enough that you have an actual identity now.

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>>68295859
The actual problem is you have two seperate communities

You have community A, which is a hive of people learning japanese wanting to socialize with other people learning language. They might NOT want to talk about learning japanese, and might want to talk about study habits, or daily routines and how they are fitting japanese study into their life

then you have the people who want to only talk about learning japanese and literally NOTHING else. I think people that fit into this category don't realize how 4chan culture propogates, because if the thread operated like this nobody would be posting here.

>>68295859
You need to proof read your posts, and maybe consider not doing the thing you're claiming is creates a negative shitflinging atmosphere.

>>68295919
You need to stop avatar posting too. It's literally against the site rules.

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>avatarfags and tumblr images left and right
Stop fooling yourselves. There's no better board than /int/ for you.

>>68295954
*claiming creates
looks like I need to proofread my posts too

>>68295966
Those are the people who come from outside, though.

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>>68295954
>You need to stop avatar posting too. It's literally against the site rules.

You know what else is against /int/ rules?

Politics discussion.

>>68295966
this is only because one poster keeps coming in /djt/ and trying to stir shit by getting triggered over people avatarfags/blogposters

they could filter or disregard the posts but they instead continue to initiate their own blogposts and hey "HEY LOOK AT THAT IDIOT" and everyone else in /djt/ takes the bait like a fucking retard

it's probably a mod trying to make /djt/ eat itself

>>68296051
No one cares, fuck off

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つまり、男には中立の代名詞ありませんか?

>「僕」クソムシの奴隷、下品な自分の想像です
>「私」ふたなり、それとも「女になりたい」気分です
>「俺」荒っぽい、粗雑な気分です

「自分」だけですかな

>>68296081
自閉症ならそうね 仕方ないね

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>>68296067
Two can play this game

>Academic generals are always good

Tell me your idea of a picture perfect /djt/. What happens in such a thread

>>68296115
Everyone who comes to the thread learns Japanese in 5 minutes

Now go shitpost somewhere else