Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1766

>>68253249
>We're still on /int/

How did your JLPT go, 同級生たち?
Who /完全不合格/ here?

Why can the potential form of 五段 verbs ending in る be expressed with られる?
What makes them so special?

>>68253281
A board, is a board
No matter where you post

>>68253296
N2 here.
Did great on reading, horrible on listening.
Some questions completely flew over my head.

Beginner here. I'm beginning to love kanji because it makes it so much easier to read. Kind of feels like optimizing code.

However, i've noticed some kanji characters are followed by a single hiragana character like い. Am i correct in assuming that's for conjugation like spanish?

>>68254282
Those are 送り仮名

>>68254127
Time to start watching more anime per day

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>there are people in this thread who took something other than N1

>when N1 isn't even hard

>and you still have the Kentei 1 to worry about

>>68254127

Absolutely agree, man. Did great on reading. Yet the listening part was really hard. I remember being surprised at just how complex it was.

It might be my own fault of course, considering that last year I took the N3 and aced the listening section, so I assumed the N2's would be relatively easy. Guess I was wrong.

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>>68253249
Tfw no Japanese bf

Tests are simple illusions created by ningen to shroud reality. Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes.

>>68254127
Same, except I didn't do so well on reading either, but I was expecting it to be a lot harder.
90% of the listening questions were complete guesses from me.

>>68254456
>there are multiple people in this thread who paid for the test but didn't take it

>>>/jp/16208590
Let's try again on a board where >>68254539 would get banned.

>Thread OP wars
Great job, burgers.

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>>68253249
平成生まれ
https://mega.nz/#F!gUgRxABD!PEGHBslg8_tu0JH1W5hnGA
A fun read with enjoyable character designs.

>>68254714
Can't have a general without spergs.

>>68254389
this seasons awful and VNs are more interesting though
>>68254457
>>68254569
I was able to pass N3 by guessing on listening so maybe the same will happen this time.

おねがい、わたしがにほんじん主婦がほします!

I am doing it for her.

>>68254897
>ほします
なんだこれ

>>68254876
Honestly if I passed I'd be surprised as fuck. I'm definitely not N2 level when it comes to Japanese, and I winged a lot of shit, relying on my great test-taking skills. Hell, I pretty much winged the entire test.

>>68254915
干す

I wonder if i should quit both jobs so i have more time to study nip

i think it's all gonna depend on how the financial aid situation goes.

>>68254934
ああー、もう全然分かりません

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>>68254574
I shut down and became ひっき again recently. Currently recovering and will apply for a job soon. Thanks for reading.

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>>68254574
>someone paid to take the N5 and cucked out

>>68254973
あ。。。すみません。すごくばか。

欲しい

>>68254973
×ほします
○欲しいです

だと思う

>>68254997
>ひっき

is that short for hikokomori?

you fucking BASTARD. this is the ONE day of the ENTIRE YEAR to take the JLPT and you fucking cucked out

how low are you

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Where is that pussy Brazilfag that gave up and decided to pussy out of his JLPT?

Show yourself coward.

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>>68254997
Why tho?

BTW if you're NEET learn a trade also and not just Japanese.

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>registered for college
>spending all my time studying japanese and absolutely no time preparing for my classes next semester

i care more about studying japanese than studying what the college is going to teach me

this won't end well

>>68255177
Unless you're retarded you can learn whatever the university is going to teach you during the fucking classes themselves.

>>68255205
>Unless you're retarded you can learn whatever the university is going to teach you during the fucking classes themselves.

Not the case with the professor of this philosophy class.

I failed this guy's class before and i'm giving it another shot.

He has the most weirdest class format i've ever seen. There's no attendance check -- you're free to skip all his classes and only come for the tests if you want. But his tests aren't even based on his lectures in class or the text. It's a weird philosophy thing that you have to think out of the box type shit.

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>>68255118
Well I wouldn't actually use the certificate for anything. I just wanted it. But right now even going outside fills me with dread so I didn't go. Maybe next year if I feel like it. I can only go up from here.
>>68255149
I got overwhelmed by school. My intake of Japanese and things I actually enjoyed went down dramatically. I couldn't do anything.
Now that I dropped everything I can breath again and have been enjoying Japanese again. If I took the test I probably would have failed.
And I do have a plan. Get a job, get good and become manager. They make enough money for me to live on because I'm a person with very few desires.

Sorry for blog, but since we're talking about JLPT and all.

>>68255149
>BTW if you're NEET learn a trade
What and how?

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>>68255276
>Well I wouldn't actually use the certificate for anything

>he won't apply for an international job and put on a resume 'Skilled in Japanese' and present copies of his N1 and Keitei 1 certificates and instantly get transferred to japan

>>68255276
wait...did you seriously just drop out of college? you fucking kidding me?

>>68255356
That's not how it works in the real world, anon.

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>>68255356
>tfw don't want to live there anymore
>just want to be comfy in my room and pursue my hobbies
I do want to visit Kyoto though.
>>68255388
Nope.

>>68255394
>That's not how it works in the real world, anon.

It is if you're a woman

Read a story about a woman that applied for a job and told them on the resume "i'm applying to this job because it has a japanese branch" and they fucking sent her there after only 3 weeks on the job

>>68255480
Women have it easier because men just automagically assume the woman they're hiring is going to be hot.

90% of the time they're wrong. (9% of the time they have bfs)

>>68255480
>It is if you're a woman
Oh, I get your point.

Of course, of course.

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>>68255413
Sad to see you're going to become pic related.

Never stop following your dreams, anon

>>68255547
Ambitious women would drop their panties without a second thought. Bfs are just for a show.

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>>68255276
Meh

You have another year. I've been studying on and off for two or so. Im more focused on real life now but im still going for n2 at least by 4 years in.

Just keep trying and pushing yourself. You knew it was going to be hard before you started.

>>68255177
You should get a trip so anons can filter out your avatarfagging and blog shit. It would be the decent thing to do.

>>68255718
What does this post have to do with studying japanese?

>show up early so that I can hopefully get a good seat
>seats are assigned
>get stuck at the very back

this is even more reason why the jlpt doesn't mean shit

[spoiler]i still passed fo sho though[/spoiler]

>>68255718
Sometimes you need to get off in your high horse dude. DJT has always been like that.

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>>68255583
I either don't really have a dream or the "dream" I had was just something I thought of because I needed to work towards "something". I don't really feel bad, more like relieved. I'm sure I have more than one thing wrong with my brain but it's seriously fun for me to sit around and daydream. And I have creative outlets to put my despair into too so don't worry. I just don't think there's anything "out there" that would make things great and happy. I just want to be at peace.
>>68255687
I'll never stop learning, it's just that college wasn't right for me. Hopefully I'll be fine despite that. Good luck to everyone else who is working at it.

>>68255799
>seats are assigned
>get stuck at the very back
>listening test
>can't hear anything
>another sound echoes from the other room
well shit

>>68255718
You should get a trip so anons can filter out your whining

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>>68255799
>>68255855
>tfw front seat

Post your age and current state of study.

25 - beginner

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>>68255938
younger than you - better than you

>>68255982
You need to be 18 for this site. See you in a year.

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>>68255982
>17

MOOT

>>68255887
>there was an empty seat in front
>a guy in front of me with hearing problems wants to transfer
>proctor says no, go fuck your own shit
>sucks to be you dude

>>68255938
20 - Low-intermediate

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>>68255982
お前...さよなら

>>68255938
19, started studying a year ago and took the N1 today, hope I passed!

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>>68255962
死ぬください

>>68255938
12/f/cali/N1

>>68256042
>死ぬください
hmmm

>>68256042
死んでください*

>>68255938
23 - 85% sure I passed N2 today

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>take N2
>heard time is a commodity at this level so quickly move through the questions because of time
>finish 30 minutes early

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>>68256069

>>68255938
>he doesn't know japanese by the 4th week inside the womb
出来ない

>>68256030
>a year ago
>N1
You didn't.

>>68256074
That's only true for stupid classroom learners. For us eroge masterrace, it's normal to finish 20-30 minute early on reading, assuming you are good enough to pass the test to begin with.

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I finally found the image for it

>>68246939
>>68246867
>>i have exactly one year

You're about to become a door, anon

>>68256042
w

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>>68256104
>>68256097
何故、スレが二つある

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>あやめる
>あやまる

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I remember months ago anons used to say you could easily get N1 or even fluency in a single year and I really fucking believed them

>>68256200
Only if you spend 10-12 hours a day reading VNs. We've been over this.

>>68256200
Yeah it's a bit of a meme.
I'm 27 and have been studying for 4 years and took the N4 for the second time today, it takes time.

>>68256200
>you could easily get N1 or even fluency in a single year

You can. With a good strategy.

You need to spend an entire year and not play video games, have a social life, get girlfriends, or do anything but study.

it's technically, -technically- possible.

>>68255938
22 - I don't even know anymore

>>68256230
>4 years of japanese study only netting you the N4

jesus christ

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>>68256230
>studying for 4 years and took the N4 for the second time today
Good one.

>>68255938
19 - New South Wales

>>68256214
The official term for this is 'pulling a moogy'.

>>68256170
なぜだろうね

>>68256211
hmm yesss

>>68256200
You can become fluent in Japanese in just six months, anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IOZbJ7PCPk

>>68256268
Honestly it doesn't really count for anyone who is obsessed with japanese media before starting anyway.

Like we all know Fin could have gotten N1 in a year starting from when he "officially" started studying if he had actually tried.

>>68255819
>DJT has always been like that.
No, DJT became like that sometime between when it was welcome on /a/ and when it was kicked.

>どうかすると
>ともすると
>ともすれば
>ややもすると
>ややもすれば
>ややともすれば
>ややともすると
is this really fucking necessary

>>68256285
We already went over the fact that polyglot fluency is nothing close to N1

>>68256236
Let us know how that works out for you. Hopefully not an update everyday though.
And shouldn't you be studying right now? No point in replacing all those things with pointless /djt/ time.

>>68256285
>just six months
>just

>>68256375
I became fluent in Japanese in only six weeks, once.

>>68256285
I actually like that guy. And iirc he's talking about basic conversation which I think you could do in that amount of time. It would just have to be basic everyday stuff.

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「別の」と「別な」はどこか違いますか?

>>68256285
i wish i had the confidence to practice speaking/writing outside of the autistic children's playground that is this thread

>>68256375
this
If you really put forth the effort and are committed you can probably read VNs and light novels without much trouble after 2 or 3 months.

>>68256436
You can force vocabulary in a short amount of time, but it's a lot harder to force listening and general language knowledge. Like sure you can learn 100 words a day if you're dedicated but you're still not going to be able to watch anime after 3 months..

>>68256407
別な is a slangy improper way of saying 別の that isn't quite fully accepted yet but may be in the future
some speakers think it just means the same thing, some think it holds a slightly different nuance
refer to this:
http://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/1101930.html

>別のもの:another thing

>別なもの:something different「違ったもの(異なるもの)」

but that's not a proper definition, just one native's opinion on what vibe it gives to him

>>68256532
Nah a guy I knew picked it up one day, regularly did anki, and ended up becoming fluent the next Tuesday.

All I'm saying is that it's possible if you really want it.

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>try to study anki while high
>takes three times as long
>try to read yotsuba while high
>read twice as quickly
hmm

>>68256564
also learn to google for 知恵袋 and goo教えて questions; it's the best japanese resource on the internet and will save your ass countless times

At what point do I switch to japanese subs in watching anime? The english subtitles help a lot but I think it's time for me to take them off. they're holding me back.

>>68256636
now bitch. quit being a pussy.

>>68256651
This, really. If you can't understand much just make it into your motivation to do more anki and grammar until you can

>>68256636
Don't switch subs, just turn them off.
If you can't pick anything up then study harder and try again.

>>68256734
Going without subs may be too big of a jump. At his level, seeing the words and associating the sound with them will be a lot more beneficial than going cold turkey.
He also gets reading practice.

>>68255938
23 - advanced

>>68255855
You're meant to put your hand up when you can't hear.

>>68255938
30 - low intermediate

>>68256781
The earlier the crutch gets tossed aside the better.
That said it's probably hard to actually become dependent on Japanese subs, considering if you can find them at all then chances are they're badly timed and mistranscribed.

Can someone explain to me what the N1-5 and Keitei examinations are and compare and compare and contrast them?

>>68257069
ggrks

>>68257069
Can you please go to Wikipedia?

Here's some listening practice for you slackers
https://mega.nz/#!TQszFbJC!A8cLxut1J3XaA-KnYQR9QYj_wza4fT5mndT0WDPb9jY

>>68257069
N5-N3: meme tests that only Uni faggots in Japanese courses take
N2: What everyone here actually passes
N1: What everyone here claims they passed

>>68253249
reading was easy and fun, listening was a chore and I was guessing 90% of the material

Here's to hoping for a miracle.

>>68257138
Is Downtown so popular that it regularly receives subs?

I was watching it the other night and a 30 year old came on, claiming he'd been watching it for the past 14 years - which was long enough ago that I remember struggling to find/download anime above 60mb .rmvb fies.

It's still difficult finding Japanese films with sub files, yet Downtown apparently is fully subbed. My older Japanese friend says all her foreign friends knew of it before Japan too.

What accounts for its popularity? I had no idea it was so big among the international crowd.

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>>68257153
>everyone here passes N2
That's funny.

It's true that N2 is a lot easier than N1 but it's not objectively easy. Out of the 38 unique posters in this thread, how many of them do you think are at N2 level or above without being a native speaker? Ten? Fifteen? I would bet less than 10.

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All this JLPT talk made me feel left out so I took the J-CAT for the first time after 1 year of unfocused study.

>150-200 - Intermediate

I really don't feel like I'm "intermediate"
I need to study more.

>>68255938
20- advanced reading skills, low-intermediate hearing skills.

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>do core
>3000 words in
>want to kill myself

I'll drop anki and just read all day now, I want to go full Japanese mode for a few hours every day.
I have to read a lot so I don't forget too many words though, I hope I can make it.

Wish me luck /djt/ senpai.

I'm not asking if this is valid or not, I'll do it either way.

>>68257241
I don't know if the weekly show has consistent subs but the new year 24 hour batsu shows are all subbed as far as I know

They are one of the most famous comedians in Japan and have been around for almost 30 years so anyone interested in Japan would probably end up hearing about them one way or another. Also helps that youtube is full of subbed short clips of their shows

>>68257311
Better start working on that 10000 hours of anime watched

is it true that n2 certificate is useless?

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>>68257442
応援するよ

>>68257479
Yup, anyone worth hiring has an n1 degree.

>>68257442
You are actually doing better than me. I dropped core at 1k words.

>>68257442
It's probably a good idea to at least keep an anki mining deck.
It's very easy to fall into the trap of reading, coming across a word you don't know, looking it up and then forgetting it immediately after reading that sentence.
But I agree with dropping core. It's not a very natural or fun way to learn new words.

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If I made a detailed journal of my progress and extremely bloggy of my two year journey would ay of you read it?

I am thinking about spending a day writing it and finishing it completely after I get the N1 one day.

>>68257553
No, stop posting with an avatar and blogging here.
It's not a good thing we can tell exactly which shitposter you are without your tripcode.

>>68257553
>will any of you review my blog
no

>>68257553
That may or may not be interesting to read, but don't post it here.

those chibi characters haven't talked to me at all since i posted about them last thread

i can't even see them right now
i think they're mad at me

it's your guys fault

>>68257553
If u r a qt asian girl i would.

/djt/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN_YXNpG2G0

What the fuck is this?

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>>68257644
>"I am fluent in japanese"
>in english

>>68257644
Do you have any more?

Ones that are good though?

さっさと法定調書そろえなさい。年末調整が進まないじゃないの

>>68257644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzXDLfFQKkQ

lol
what a nigger

>>68257580
true
ill shit up the other one with it.

>>68257689
"I'm going to speak japanese for the rest of my life"

That's some powerful subliminal messaging

>>68257689
>Do you have any more?

There's no shortage of actually good hypnosis music on youtube

I haven't encountered any that teach you japanese. It sounds like a cool premise too, go to sleep and hear nip inside your brain while you're asleep. Sounds like a good way for your subconcious mind to pick up the language.

Tell me if you come across anything like this

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>>68256407
「別な」のくっつきかたはなぜか語感がわるいので「別の」をつかってね

>萌えるゴミと萌えないゴミは別の日に出します

>>68257766
You dont pick up things like that though.

I watch a lot of the spiritual mumbo jumbo.

This one changed my life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6P2m53aCE

The guy that was posted before seems kinda dumb tbqh..

How far along do you have to be to pass N5 (how many words, how skilled at grammar, etc.)? Is it even worth taking?

>>68257818
>is it even worth taking
No, unless you want to show off to your friends.

>>68257818
The lowest level worth taking is maybe N3, only to see if you're ready for N2.
N5 is a joke.

>>68257818
http://www.jlpt.jp/e/samples/n5.html
You tell me if something of this difficulty is worth taking.

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Been studying for only about 1-2 weeks now, finished kana, finished basic grammar on t.k. and I'm at around 100 kanji. Where should I see myself by the summer? Or in a year?

Just trying to get a feel for what my short term goals should be.

>>68257909
You should be able to read simple works like Dragonball, Aku no Hana, and the usual suspects. You'll understand 70% of the words in basic comics meant for kids, but still have to look up a few words every page.

Don't bother reading until you hit at least 1,000 words, because you'll just overwhelm yourself. I'd say wait until you hit 2k in core, since that can be accomplished in a little over three months, but it's disappointing to not see results right away.

クリスマスで何をいるいる?

>>68257853
N5は50時間くらいでとれるそうですね

「にほんごを50時間勉強したころがあります」

この能力に実用性はないけど

少なくともにほんに興味があるとは思われるから

にほんじんの女の子の印象は多少よくなるでしょう(ただしイケメンに限る)

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おっぱいを触る

>>68257818
About 2 weeks of study

>>68258019
>いるいる
何の意味だろうか

>>68258030
>にほんじんの女の子の印象は多少よくなるでしょう(ただしイケメンに限る)

I think at the point where you're bragging about certificates to women you're already hopeless.

>>68258049
fuck I didn't mean to type it twice
いる as in いります

>>68255938
25 - 1 year in, beginner.

I actually half-assedly started it when I was 18, but didn't take it seriously. This time around I'll do it properly. 2018 and I'll be fluent! Watch and see.

>>68258057
*tips*

>>68257995
Wow thanks for advice anon. At the moment I'm making slow progress (only 15 cards/day) because uni and lifting take up so much time but those goals seem pretty good.

>>68258019
鳥インフルエンザの収束が欲しい

にほんは防疫にてんやわんやです
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20161204/k10010794551000.html

>>68258034
Clever.
imagination is most important.

>>68258212
15 cards/day is enough
If you go much higher, when you inevitably slack off and miss a few days or worse, a few weeks, you will end up with a shit ton of reviews.

>>68258288
You need to know this too.
Oppai wo momi momi suru.

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>>68258289
>15 cards/day is enough

>>68258311
ぱふぱふする

>>68258331
What am I supposed to glean from your anki autism?

>>68258419
His 60 cards a day mean.

But yeah, 15 a day is still an okay rate. I go with the default 20 cards.

Seems like everyone also has trouble with 聴解 like me.
And I thought you guys are super good at it considering how much you watch anime/play VN than me

>>68258331
I hope you're a NEET with too much free time, otherwise I kinda pity how you've let Anki consume your life these past few months.

Hopefully you can raise your retention a bit too.

>>68258212
Once you hit around 2/3k words, bump it up to 20 words a day. You'll start noticing patterns and associating meanings to words, instead of memorizing the 1:1 translations that beginners have to rely on to build a foundation. After a year or two depending on your speed, your reading should only be slowed down by idioms/cultural references, handwritten Japanese, and potentially low kanji recognition.

Don't make the same mistake I have though, and only focus on manga. Listening is also an important skill that shouldn't be neglected.

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>>68258508
にほんごは母音がおおくて

ききとりにくいって

ほんとう?

>>68258508
I have no problems understanding anime and women speaking. But get a young "cool" man or some businessman speaking and it becomes overwhelming.

I've downloaded Shirobako's interviews and can't make shit out of those, it'll be at least one year before I give it another go.

>>68258514

What would you recommend for listening practice? Anime with English/Japanese subs or VNs?

>>68257887
>http://www.jlpt.jp/e/samples/n5.html
Fuck me; I got one wrong ;_;
...and I even remember people talking about it months ago on djt back when we were on /a/.
>部屋のそうじ
That and I didn't catch the first word in the last listening question although I heard 国 and just went with アメリカ

ワタクシは長下手ですね
でもがんばります。諦めません

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>>68258331
>Japanese words that are totally for Japanese and not for Mandarin

>>68258514
>I hope you're a NEET with too much free time, otherwise I kinda pity how you've let Anki consume your life these past few months.

I find it pretty sad that you consider spending a couple hours a day on a hobby is considered consuming your life. And my retention is rising now that I'm actually mining and focusing more on native material.

>>68258571
I had this same problem during the test. The female speakers were much easier to understand than the men.

>>68258514
>1 hour a day is life-consuming
Heh. Guess I shouldn't disclose that's how long it takes to do my 20 daily new cards plus reviews, then. Don't want anonymous pitying me.

>>68258602
You only need like 50% to pass.
Which is honestly pretty ridiculous.

>>68258596
Take advantage of subs2srs seriously.

>>68258678
Yeah, but I'm over 400 hours into this game -- I feel like I should have at least aced N5.

>>68258663
Damn -- it takes me an hour just to do my reps. New cards take me another 30-45minutes because I like to look up additional example sentences when I first see a new word to make sure I'm understanding it.

>>68258596
just watch anime with jap subs f.am vns are all garbo

>>68258704

I have no idea what that is, is it a better option than just playing VNs a few hours a day?

>>68258794
>is balanced learning better than just going all out reading and ignoring listening other than clear easy anime girl voices

>>68258550
知らないけど、文の順序はベトナム語と違いですから、ちょっとききとりにくい。例えば、補助文の多い文章を聞いたそばから、つい内容を忘れて、理解できません。もし読んだら、文章を最後から最初まで見て、理解できますけど
悔しい(´・ω・｀)

>>68258836

Well, thanks for the suggestion. I didn't know that there was such a clear-cut choice like that

>>68258596
My listening is shit, I live here and still struggle with anything that's not textbook Japanese. The sheer variety of saying things and the need to listen all the way to the end of a sentence drive me nuts.

I just watch everything on tv with subs - I've never been able to get Japanese .sub files to match up easily, so I've never gone that route.

People who are willing to invest the time to pause and re-listen to sentences over and over probably have the right idea.

I find slowing down my reading speed and mouthing the words under my breath helps a bit, but the trade off is you have to slow down.

I think >>68258704 probably has it right. Negative side is that most of the words are useless, but hey, it does the hard work for you.


>>68258663
10 cards/minute is the goal; it can be higher if you're a beginner of course, and not everyone is going to have the same speed.

>>68258646
You're spending at least an hour on a memorization app - that's a bit separate from the hobby itself.

You'd definitely be better off cutting your Anki down to 30 minutes and using the other thirty to finish a volume of whatever manga instead.

>>68258856
文法が違って慣れないのはわかります

発音自体はききとりにくいですか?

ベトナムをカブで走りたい

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A few threads ago, someone posted a list of students names and 女箱 showed up, read as "Pandora".

Can you do whatever the fuck you want with readings as long as you use law-abiding kanji?

>>68259000
>You're spending at least an hour on a memorization app - that's a bit separate from the hobby itself.
At least an hour and a half actually.

Given my progress, I'm pretty sure I was best off doing almost exactly what I did.

> Negative side is that most of the words are useless
That's cute, you still think there's such thing as useless words.

>>68259000

Subs2srs looks somewhat complicated - is there anything I need to know or keep in mind that can't be found in the instructions on the website (tips, etc.)?

>>68259065
>useless words.
Would you agree to some words being less useful to learn than others?

>>68257818
You could probably pass after doing like 200 words in anki and reading a few pages of tyler kimm

>>68259019
My daughter will be called 昔諦 - Dekinai.

>>68259065
It's pointless to get a deck full of ステキーーーー!or ありがとう's, and have to go through the pain of deleting them. The time saved in creating/using a deck is offset by the pain of having to cull cards are that useless to me.

But hey, reach for that point there.

>>68259019
未来来(みらくる)

>>68259186
>and have to go through the pain of deleting them.
Literally all you have to do
is press the delete button

that is all

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>>68259017
えと、テストCDのボイスははっきりだと思います。
ただ、私の発音はすっごくへたですから、多くの言葉は知っていますが、聞くときは全然気がつきませんでした。
それに、同音異義語も私にとって問題です。
昨日のテストの中で、「さけ」の言葉がありました、「酒」と思いましたが、実は「鮭」でした。ショックでした。
といえば、私の友人がこんなスーパーカブ50を持っています。いいバイクですね(＾v＾)

>>68259217
Nice! Then you can write it as "森" (quotes included).

>>68259250
Actually, scratch that completely.
"三森" is ugly.

>>68259229
Imagine downloading a deck with 3,000 words.

3/4th of them are useless because they're always targeted towards beginners.

Clicking delete over 2,000 times is a pain.

I mean, considering you spend at least 90 minutes on Anki a day, you seem to have time to spare, but for others, it's just an impediment.

>>68259290
Wow if that many of the lines are useless imagine how much time you'd have wasted if you actually tried to watch the anime.

>>68259249
>カブ
そのカブに3人乗りしちゃうところが

ベトナムはクールですごいとおもうよ

>同音異義語
同音異義語はネイティブ同士のおしゃべりでも

わかりにくく言ってしまったときは足します

「さけ、たべるほうじゃなくて、のむほうの酒なんだけど~」
「さけ、のむほうじゃくて、食べる方の鮭なんだけど~」
っていうふうに

>>68257818
Nothing below N2 is really worth bothering with since basically no job that wants a qualification cares about anything less than N2. You could take N3 as a practice run before trying one of the proper levels, or the lower levels as a way to gauge your progress if you're learning on your own, but as qualifications N3, N4 and N5 are pretty well worthless.

>>68259408
What kind of jobs can you even get with speaking Japanese?

>>68259438
A job in Japan.

恨む
惜しむ
羨む
憎しむ
I never know the difference between these because in my mind they are all the same emotion - I think I'm too pure to learn Japanese.

>>68259438
https://www.daijob.com/en/

To be fair, there are also decent jobs that don't really require any language ability at all.

>>68259462
It is so hard to be accepted in Japan. Why would you want to do it?

>>68259497
>It is so hard to be accepted in Japan.
Not really.

>>68259497
I wouldn't.
But if you wanted a proper job in Japan you'd need to know Japanese.

>>68259377
ですよね。みんなはコンテクストによって分別するっていうけど、コンテクストも理解できません私、どうしよう
つまり、もっと頑張らなくちゃ。あきらめない!

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>>68259535
wanted a proper jobっていうと

>えんかつにしごとをしたい
>こうたいぐうでしごとをしたい

どっちのいみにとればいいの?

>>68259607
おにいちゃんならきっとできるよ

ところでベトナムのおにいちゃんたちがドクダミをサラダで食べるってほんと?

>>68259607
あきらめろ

>>68259778
>proper
きちんとした

>>68259778
本格的な仕事
ちゃんとした仕事

>try the N1 practice questions
I could probably be ready for this shit in July. If they actually offered it in July here.
Looks like it's time to cram vocab for a year and mix some TV shows into my cartoons

http://www.jlpt.jp/e/samples/n1.html

>>68259778
本当です→http://vietfinest.com/%E3%83%88%E3%82%99%E3%82%AF%E3%82%BF%E3%82%99%E3%83%9F-diep-ca_i1142_c162.aspx
ベトナム人は野生の野菜が好きですから、食べられるなら食べます。体にいい効果があるということです。
>>68259785
やだクモ先輩。

>>68259866
Practice questions for N1 might actually be easier than practice questions for N2. Have a look at a full-fledged practice exam instead - much harder.

>>68259866
The sample questions are a trick to get people to sign up for things they aren't ready for

Try the actual practice booklets or something like shin kanzen master reading materials from the op

>>68259914
>The sample questions are a trick to get people to sign up for things they aren't ready for
Intuitive but wrong interpretation of sample questions:
"These questions are the standard one can expect in the test."

True interpretation of sample questions:
"If you can already do these, then after several months of study you should be able to pass the test."

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>>68259884
>1kg >60,000 đ

にほんだと

キャベツ1個

しいたけ8個

大豆300グラム

やきいも3つ

かんがえようによってはけっこうたかいのかも?

あたしの山で毎年50キロくらいとれるんだけど

>>68259894
>easier than practice questions for N2
N2 are definitely easier, I don't know what you're smoking

>>68259914
>>68259994
Are they really that far off the mark? Time to look at a serious resource I guess, don't know why I'm doing it though since I have no actual reason to take N1 before I know Japanese

>>68260049
あのサイトは高く売っています。つねに、市場で10.000ドン(50円)/1キロ買えます。ベトナムは農業国ですから、食べ物はとても安いよ(^^)

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>>68260170
ベトナムすみたくなってきた

ぎんだこひとふね(6個入り)

500円だよ

>>68260254
Like make a recognition card a production one?

Assuming it's only an individual card, you could probably put it in a fresh deck, make a copy/new type of it and then suspend the old one and adjust the interval manually on the new one before putting it back in your regular deck. This is all a guess though.

>>68260332
I hadn't noticed the "Change note type..." under "Edit" in the Browser, nevermind. I managed to do what I wanted to do.

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I have never seen 余 being used for I.
What is it's significance?

>>68259000
>using the other thirty to finish a volume of whatever manga
>thirty minutes
>a volume of a manga

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>>68260302
>ひとふね
わあ、新しい言葉。勉強になります、ありがとう。
おいしそうですね。食べたい(^○^)
前は、この点でたこ焼きを食べてみました、40.000ドン(200円)/9個。おいしいでした。本場でのたこ焼きはきっと超おいしい。

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>>68260443
>sakura
>red

Can someone help me with transcribing this? My Japanese has gone to shit and there's too much background noise.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1tT7TT1KcQp

Here's what I have:

新たな舞台アローラ地方を巡る サトシとぴかちゅの [???] 大冒険が遂に始まる!

>>68260464
フィードバックするかな。あはは

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>>68260443
あたしも大阪のタコ焼きたべたことないよ

タコ焼きといえば大阪だとおもってたけど

そういえば明石焼き(あかしやき)もすてがたいよね

おなかすいた

>>68260518
「全力」だろ

>>68255938
18 n4

>>68260592
>明石焼き
初めて聞いた。たこ焼きほど派手じゃないけど、おいしい?そのスープは何のために?明石焼きを浸ける?

>>68260618
I don't hear 全力 at all. Do you mean in place of the [???] ? Or, where?

>>68260518
>>68260732
Also, whoops, ピカチュ should be in katakana, obviously. Silly IME.

>>68260732
Yeah, in place of the [???]

>>68260732
He means in place of the blank you left. It sounds like the audio skips there and splits the "ze" to sound like two separate syllables, but zenryoku makes sense and I can't think of anything else that would fit.

>>68260656
浜短のチャンピオンカレーの横に

明石焼きのお店があるそうなので

実際に行ってたべてみようかなあとおもうよ

実際に食べてみないとわからないからね

>>68260769
>>68260763
That's what I was originally thinking – and the text on the screen at the same time does say 全力 so it'd make sense. I couldn't tell if the audio was skipping or not, but it sounds like it. Thanks.

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>>68260656
スープはどうするんだろう

おみせにいけばわかる

>>68261016
苺ましまろ?

>>68261052
gee could it possibly be the avatarfag's one and only avatar

>>68261102
who? fuck off please

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You guys know how learning capacity attenuates as you get older; how new synapses don't form between neurons, and long-term potentiation occurs instead by remodeling existing connections?

How fucked am I if I begin Japanese study at age 25.

>>68261183
you'll be fine if you actually try

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>>68261183
Nononooo

Is it possible to get to n1 proficiency from scratch in a year?

>>68260386
>What is it's significance?

高貴な血筋の私の自称には"余"こそふさわしいじゃろ?

>>68261204
>>68261239
ありがとう
頑張ります、絶対に!

>>68261124
>who?
The guy you replied to is an avatar poster who names all his images imouto.jpg and avoids kanji like the plague.
He posts Ichigo Mashimaro whenever he gets the chance.
DJT黒歴史記録帳から

>>68261183
Raised as a simultaneous bilingual, I have studied the subject extensively and from what I understand, these pathways are already formed if you know at least two languages. For example, everytime you hear or conjure up a word, your brain fetches all instances of that idea in the different lexicons your mind holds.

Therefore, if I had to guess, these subconcious pathways which are specifically formed when your brain knows more than one language can easily accomodate the addition of one extra lexicon, even in mid to late adulthood. Sad for monolinguals though, since these pathways are simply not formed and the brain does not tap into these capacities subconciously for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeM19uf75MU

こういうスレの英語版あればいいなーと思うんだけどみんな英語できるから必要ないのか…

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>>68261401
Tfw trilingual

>>68261401
this, I've been trilingual since around my late teens and I haven't found learning jap on my own to be particularly hard

>>68261445
which ones?
mines are portuguese, spanish and english

>>68261414
今日から 僕は
FUJISANだ!

>>68261425
質問あったら喋ってみろよ
ふざけた質問は認めないからな

>>68261509
>ESLs who think they know English

>>68261958
brew, english is hard
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1480932427403.webm

What's the least painful way to lookup an unknown kanji from paper to jisho in your opinion? Radical lookup? Google translate handwriting? Having basically 0 words in anki means I'm going to have to do it for every single word.

>>68262344
I rely mostly on radicals and only use google handwriting as a last resort.

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>>68262344
>Google translate handwriting?
これ
Google is genuinely a wizard

>>68262344
> the least painful
Scan and OCR maybe?

Hey guys. After studying for a year I abandoned Japanese for a social life during my first year at uni and I've been missing it. I have 4000 reps in Anki now and I would rather start again doing 20-100 new words a day. However I personalised the Core 6k deck and TK deck to my liking by fixing definitions/mistakes etc. Is there any way to reset to the original order of the decks or will I have to redownload them and re-edit them as I go through?

>>68262803
>>68262803
>>68262803
>>68262803
>>68262803
>>68262803
Why Japan's map not look like this?

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お巡りさん

>>68262851
I wonder what kind of working conditions cops have over there.

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>>68262898
Sitt in their policebox and roll their thumbs all day I guess

Apart from that odd trip around town on their bike

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>>68262851
この人はロリコンです!

>>68261656
who make god?

>>68262823
>Is there any way to reset to the original order of the decks
As far as I know, no.
Once you've started using it the deck order then becomes jumbled and exporting/importing without the scheduling information will still keep that jumbled order but remove the due in [...] information.

If you do go down the fresh deck + re-editing route, you can sort your old deck by date edited to make it much easier to transfer those changes to a fresh deck. Once your fresh deck is good to go, export and save that for the future in case you quit again.

This information is all based off personal experience with an anki program that is a couple of years old. I'm not sure if they changed it so you can export with the original card order.

>>68255938
18 - taking n1 next year, have 18 months experience so far

>>68262823
I'm not sure if you should reset or not, you probably still have a faint memory of some cards which would boost your start a bit, but anyway, you might try this.

I don't know if those decks have a field to indicate the order, if they do, go to the browser, click on fields, click on the order field, select "sort by this field in the browser". Then click on the sort field in the browser so that the cards are now sorted. Now select all cards (ctrl+A), go to edit -> reschedule -> place at the end of the new card queue, hit ok. You should be done if I didn't fuck up my explanation.

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>>68262971
(´・ω・｀)

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>>68262851
許してくれ

>>68262845
because we were defeated in the WW2.

>>68263020
This should work for the core deck. "Optimized-Voc-Index" is sequentially numbered.

>>68262980
>>68263148
Thanks for your help.

>>68263020
Oh my god, you are my hero. My recognition does still seem ok enough to trawl through the reps and I still have extensive mnemonics, but I really don't like the jumbled order. Resetting to the default order this way will make it a lot easier to sprint through the first 1-2k and over time I will decrease the new words per day back down to 20. Thank you, anon.

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is there software like rikaichan for VNs?

>>68263788
You mean a texthooker?

>>68263788
rikaisamaにはsamaをつけろよデコ助野郎

>>68262938
私を呼びましたか?

interpal is broken.

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>>68263906
お巡りさんですか?
それともおロリコンですか

>>68263139
Why was the thread deleted?

I was told (by a Japanese speaker) that uchi is a female pronoun.
But now I'm watching anniemay and there's this very polite lad who always says "uchi no neko" about his cat.

Is this a special case, where he is not referring to himself, but about "my family's cat", "the house's cat" or something like that?

>>68264177
>Is this a special case, where he is not referring to himself, but about "my family's cat", "the house's cat" or something like that?
Yes

>>68264177
うち pronoun is Kansai isn't it

>>68264282
>う↑ちのねこ
My own cat.

>うち↑のねこ
A house/pet cat.

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>>68262938
ワイはペドちゃうで
>>68264043
modsに訊けば?
>>68264177
「うち」を第一人称にしているので7有名なキャラと言えば、うる星のラムちゃんやな。
で、
「うちの猫」 means not "my cat", but "the cat which lives in my house"
やな
つまり「うちの家(いえ)の猫」
answered by Pantuya

>>68263978
熊の様に徘徊しますが、巡査ではありません
子供は大好きですが一般人です
ハグしてもいいですか?

>>68264423
ありがとう、本物の日本人さん

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>>68264461
>うち
/a/ではれんちょん

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>>68264585
>>68264423
イントネーションではなくアクセントな
My cat ウちのねこ ウが強調emphasis
the cat as House Pet ウチのねこ
>>68264621
そういや
のんのんびより
が、あったわ
にゃんぱす

>>68264177
Unfortunately there is other accent on the east side of Japan.
「う→ち↗ の猫」, and this has both of meanings.

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>>68264966
関東では、そうなん?
のんのんぴよりは
関東の田舎が舞台だと思っていたけど

ウにアクセントがあると所有感がある。
平板だと存在感がある。

>>68265082
はい。そのアニメを知らなくてごめんだけど
関西アクセントの影響が少ない関東~北海道では「う→ち↑」ではなく「う→ち↗」が主で、どっちの意味なのかは文脈で理解する感じだと思います

/a/ではなぜかNNB表記

そしてこまちゃんがクソ人気

だがしやはもっとにんきがあってもいいのにともうよ