Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1765

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今日の日本語能力試験を受験するアノンたち
アノン君ならきっとできるよ
がんばって〜

really djt? i had to wake up in the middle of the night to make this thread. nobody else wants to make threads even though i posted a warning in the last thread i wouldnt be able to make a thread

またくん

Thank god you're back. Looking at the rest of the threads on this board is really depressing.

>>68219740
すみません
気が付かなかった

Speed listening 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq2lcJQwWAA

おちた

堕ちた

>>68219758
>>>/int/djt

Bookmark this and you'll never have to look at them again.

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>>68220017
了解

おちろ
すべろ

>>68220017
Oh good.
One nice thing about being on /int/ is even if the rest of the board is godawful vomitinducing shitposting, there's no reason we can't have the same high quality intellectual threads we had on /a/.

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>>68220130
>high quality intellectual threads

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I just realized that I've been studying Japanese for nearly 9 hours straight.
Is there only so much time I can spend learning a language in a single day before I start to forget everything? What's the optimal amount of hours I should spend on this per day?

I didn't even realize I've been studying this language for so long.

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>>68220130
>high quality intellectual threads we had on /a/
Do I detect sarcasm?

/あ/から追い出されたの
おかしい

>>68220229
Half an hour a day is more effective than 9 hours once a week. It takes time for the concepts to sink in, daily repetition will reinforce them.

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Having just read the guide, would I be correct in assuming the fundamental tools for learning Japanese (after Hiragana and Katakana) are thus:
1. A grammar guide - eg. Dictionary of Japanese Grammar/Nakama/Genki/Tae Kim/etc.
2. A spaced repetition utility - eg. Memrise/Anki, preferably with a vocabulary set like Core2K to start off
3. Reading materials from which to obtain new vocabulary - eg. simple manga
(And an optional 4. Discrete Kanji study - eg. Kanjidamage, Heisig, etc. for a more robust but slower approach)

Did I miss anything important?

>>68220373
Hey, this is actually a pretty good summary.
The specific recommendations are Tae Kim, Anki with Core2k, Yotsuba or Hanahira, and no step 4.

To the people who took the JLPT - Can you write / speak Japanese?

>>68220229
>I've been studying Japanese for nearly 9 hours straight.
What does this even mean?
I could tell you I've been studying Japanese since I woke up 14 hours ago, if you count lurking 2ch and watching raw cartoons. No reason you shouldn't, though.
Learning a language is about exposure and accretion. I find it hard to imagine you can completely forget anything let alone everything.

>>68220373
3 hours anime daily (min.)

>>68220461
Cheers mate.
I'm still trying to remember my kana at this stage, but I just wanted to make sure I don't stumble once I hit the hard part.

That said I hope stroke order isn't important, if I'm learning kanji via vocabulary.

>>68220487
>What does this even mean?
It means I sat down on my chair, turned on the computer and studied Japanese for almost 9 hours. Granted, I did use the bathroom and eat some snacks, but other than that I've been studying kanji, vocabulary and some of the more complicated grammar topics. Maybe occasionally ask a question on /djt/ about something, but that's it.

I guess you could say I feel accomplished, but I also feel very tired and frankly a little sick.

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>>68220578
>I hope stroke order isn't important

>>68220229
12 hours of study a day with lots of sleep.

It doesn't really matter how much slips through your memory net when the net is the size of a house.

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>>68220606
>I also feel very tired and frankly a little sick.
無理しないでね

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I found this on the other side of internet
Thoughts?

>>68220629
So I'm not supposed to learn kanji independently, but I am somehow expected to know their stroke orders?

>>68220606
You didn't do any reading or listening?

>>68220876
There is a kanji stroke order font available. Just add that to your anki cards and you'll pick it up soon enough.

Holy shit lads that listening section was hard

>>68220876
There is no strict recommendation not to study kanji independently, both sides of that are kind of subjective. You figure out on your own whether kanji study or rote vocab memorization goes smoother for you, then pick one. They both eventually take you to the same place.

You can't mix up kanji stroke order when writing. That's an absolute *can't* because if you do then the kanji will not look like it is supposed to.
Accordingly, you need to know it to be able to read some people's handwriting.
The good news here is that it's pretty intuitive. You'll get a feel for it if you look into it a little bit. Top right to bottom left is the general rule, and there are a limited number of radicals that show up in kanji so once you know most of those you should know the stroke order for the vast majority of kanji as well.

>>68220876
>So I'm not supposed to learn kanji independently
You can if you like, but you don't have to. If you do decide to do it, then I'd recommend the Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course in the CoR.

>>68221036
>top right to bottom left
*Top left to bottom right, sorry.

>>68220896
>>68221036
>>68221044
Thanks again.

(This is exactly the kind of thing I was asking about above, when I questioned whether I had missed anything important.)

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So I've started reading yotsuba, and I'm having a hard time recognizing these fonts. How do I get better at this stuff ?

>>68220606
For the ones of you who did the N4, how difficult it was? should I do it next year or should I just do the N3?

>>68221134
Don't do either, study until you're ready for the N1 instead

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>>68221100
I'm sure this is what you wanted to hear
"Read more"

>>68221100
Visualise how the character is written in that font from the beginning stroke to the last my polish friend

>>68221180
>>68221233
Alright then, I'll try

I'm basically just remembering the pronunciation with anki, hoping to learn the meaning from reading light novels. I still have the meaning on the card, I just don't care if I get it right. How shitty of an idea is this?

>>68221633
It's not good. Guessing meanings is okay at later stages when it's one word per page or so you don't know, but at earlier stages where you're constantly guessing meanings it won't help you at all. You'll frequently be wrong and constantly reading through a haze of only "kind of" understanding. There's really no benefit to what you're doing.

>>68221633
Pretty horrible assuming it's a core deck. What you're doing is pretty much doing Remember the Kanji with it.

>>68221731
ok thanks anon time to get 30% retention for a few months

Good work everyone.
May you achieve good results this time.

>>68215524
I understand your point.

No, and the world will not lose anything if those islands go down.

>>68220942
Holy shit, your sarcasm is shit.

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だいじょうぶ

みんなひゃくてんだよ

>>68222451
Are the questions in JLPT the same around the world?

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For anyone watching Japanese TV shows, do you translate each line of dialogue immediately? Or do you translate everything you didn't understand after 5 mins, 15 mins, after the entire episode?

I find it a bit futile when I'm translating almost every line of dialog. Will this get easier, or should I refocus on grammar/vocab/easier content?

>>68222598
>do you translate
No

>>68222598
When your Japanese is so bad (no offense) that you have to pause every line to work on understanding, you should be focusing on reading instead of watching TV. It's just far more practical and efficient.

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>>68222777
>222777
神様、案内してください

>>68220466
イエス。

>>68222851
よかろう
I know Japanese AMA

頑張ろう、無名たち!できる!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S86ppy4jdxg

>>68222944
how do i get faster at reading 横書き chu

>learnt Mandarin as a kid, nobody gave a shit about stroke order
>everyone talks about the importance of stroke order with Japanese
>laugh but try to learn it anyway
>mfw it actually helps
Cool.

>>68223076
Read VNs

>>68223155
>learning Mandarin as a kid
>Mandarin
You econocuck

>>68223226
中国じんです。

hello djt!
I'm looking for a 2k anki deck with only vocab cards. i couldn't find any on the anki shared decks page.

i have an older one from a past djt thread called core2k_6k optimized japanese vocabulary. however that one always shows kanji first. I'd prefer if the first side was audio only or furigana so I could learn to memorize the kanji instead.

>>68223282
Your current deck will work, just edit the card fields in Anki so audio is on the front and then text is on the back.

>>68223245
Sydney or Melbourne?

>>68222451
よんひゃくてんまんてんだから

ひゃくてんじゃそくふごうかくになるよ

Where do you guys download manga RAWs (besides CoR)? Madokami doesn't allow them anymore.

>>68223312
Melbin. Why?

>>68223324
Nyaa and pray. Sometimes I ask my weeb friends if they have them.

>>68223324
bakabt
AB

>>68223345
Light joke about the number of Asians in those two cities. It always takes me by surprise when going there.

>>68223406
We haven't invaded the entire country yet? I'm surprised. What quiet space are you from?

>tfw uni has more Asian students than domestic students now

>>68223352
The one I was searching for (恋情デスペラード) wasn't on Nyaa and Google only gives me a few chapters. I'll try PerfectDark and see if I can find any scans there.

>>68223464
Nvm, found the first two volumes on the archive. Download links if anyone is interested:

https://jii.moe/VkQFHBAYb.zip
https://jii.moe/Ey8UHHRK-.zip

>>68223312
I just looked up how to do this. However, the cards are structured in a way that one side is kanji only and the other side is furigana+translation+example sentence.
I'm looking for a deck which has audio or furigana on one side and translation+kanji on the back.

>>68223556
Firstly, the way you want to set up your cards is beyond retarded.
Secondly, Browse -> Choose your deck -> Select a card -> Cards... - > Front Template -> {{Vocabulary-Audio}}

Seriously Hans. Read the fucking manual.

>>68223556
nevermind. I just realized I can edit the html fields myself. thanks for the tip!

>>68223635
what's so retarded about setting it up this way?

>>68223710
>I'd prefer if the first side was audio only or furigana so I could learn to memorize the kanji instead.
Well what are you trying to learn?

If you're trying to learn the kanji, the kanji should be on the front as that's what you're trying to learn the meaning of.
Having the audio only on the front is so-so for listening practice if you want to do that.
Having the furigana on the front of the card is for learning ???

>>68223786
Why are you getting so worked up over how he wants to learn? Who the fuck cares

>>68223786
Hmm. If you were meaning you wanted to do production (as in, write the kanji), there are other tags you can use for that.

You can have example sentences (with audio and the like on the front) with the kanji in question blanked out.

I forget the term for it, but it should be easy enough to find in the anki manual.

>>68223245
Is it required to learn Mandarin in Australia if you're an Australian-born Chinese?

>>68223786
I used to do it this way with my previous anki deck:
>new card
>kanji on top
>look at the whole card
>take time to learn kanji and spelling
>click repeat in <1min
>try to write it next time upon hearing audio/reading hiragana

I thought it worked pretty well for me until now. But maybe I'm overlooking sth so idk.

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きょうもいいいちにちだったら

あしたもいいいちにちになるの

>>68223282
>. I'd prefer if the first side was audio only or furigana so I could learn to memorize the kanji instead.
This is wrong and a waste of time

>>68223939
why is it a waste of time?

I've been learning this way for the last 6 months (when I started). I'm genuinely curious. Is there a faster way? I'm afraid I won't memorize the kanji if I don't learn how to write them by heart in the long run.

>>68223933
Would you be doing the writing out phase every time you reviewed the card?
I still think having the kanji on front and recognising that would be easier way to go. You could always look away/close your eyes to write it out.

Anyhow, have a look at the http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html#cloze section. That seems more production friendly.

>>68223920
I would say almost all ABC kids have gone to weekend school for Mandarin. Out of all of the ABCs I know, all of us went. That being said, most of us still speak shitty Mandarin or lose it completely after we stop learning.

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To think I was learning Chinese all along. I already knew about the han versions of 八, 冷 and that one that looks like grass but I wasn't aware they were not japanese... Some fonts slightly change the characters like そ so I thought they were all fair game
I want to sue Google

Off to the JLPT I go lads. Taking the N2 this time. Good luck everyone.

When are the results for the JLPT given back?

>>68224928
The beginning of February. You may be able to check them on line by the end of January.

how do you say "feet" or "soles" in japanese

>>68225276
足底? guess

>>68225276
足 can mean leg or foot.

>>68225276
足の裏、足の底 mean sole of the foot

>>68224077
>losing a language
wat

>>68225532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_attrition#First_language_attrition_.28FLA.29

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>>68225572

>>68225532
They just don't speak it enough and end up forgetting parts of it. You've never experienced it before?

My parents have started code-switching between English and Mandarin. It's started causing problems when they go home and can't remember words in Mandarin kek.

>>68225276
足元

>>68225369
脚leg
足leg and foot

>>68226015
>You've never experienced it before?
The languages I speak uses roman alphabet only so I'm good.

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You guys ever just feel like sometimes the kanji are talking to you but you just don't know the language?

>膣内
>膣外

>>68226383
It happens in any language you twit.

>>68226383
What's it like knowing 2 languages?

>>68226514
>2 languages
4 + 1(jap)
I dunno. Nothing special I guess? You just get to speak four languages, like how the size of a dick does not mean anything.

>>68226383
>The languages I speak uses roman alphabet only so I'm good.
I wish this was true
It's a bit scary when you notice that you are starting to lose a language, more if that's your mother tongue

>>68226846
Are most of those romantic languages?

>>68227140
>tfw I'm losing my mother tongue too
It's not that bad yet but I sound like a retard sometimes. On the bright side, your English is really good anon.

So, im going through a work book I bought.
>みずうみ や おんせん が あります。
What does the particle ya in this case represent?
Does it also translate to "There is a lake and a spa."

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>>68227417
I know that first kanji I swear it's on the fucking tip of my tongue

>>68227646
勝...?

>>68223976
By all means practice your writing, but don't bother with production style cards. If you can only recognise and roughly understand a word when you see it, then understanding the meaning and being able to recall it in the appropriate situation will come much more fully and efficiently by means of reading native material instead.

>>68227638
yes

>>68224887
good luck amigo

Help with translation:
>乙女に迫る魔の手
Devil's hand approaching?

>>68228933
Why did you ignore 乙女?

>>68229083
Because I think that the "Devil's hands approach" - wrong

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>>68229188

>>68227356
>romantic languages?
No, only one language is relevant. Not like French is any more relevant anyway.

>>68228933
The witch's hand is reaching to the little girl.

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>>68229524
several languages can be relevant depending on what you are looking to read, or where do you plan to work.

>>68227638
>spa
No. Hot spring.

"ya" is distinct from "to" in that it strongly suggests there are other things that could have been listed but weren't.

mizuumi to onsen ga aru
>There is a lake and a hot spring.
mizuumi ya onsen ga aru
>There are lakes, hot springs, etc..

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>>68227417
Come on, It's not as hard as it seems. Few kanjis, and even romanjis, just use a dictionary your lazy.

>>68230351
?
I can read it fine.
The title references to the contents of the speech. Did you not read it or are you just hasty to bully people?

Where to find Japanese manga to read in N3 level

I tried the guide without success.

>>68231291
Didn't try hard enough. If you're actually N3 (as opposed to self-assessed N3) you can just try reading whichever manga you want.

>>68231291
Yotsubato is easy, try reading that one.

>>68231527
>Yotsubato
>N3

>>68230793
He's BR, you be the judge.

>>68231769
Stupidity transcends nationality.

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>>68231875
Speaking of, are you the one that pussied out of the JLPT last night?

>>68232006
Nope, just got home from N3 an hour ago actually. I know it's a worthless certificate, but I was just testing the waters.

>>68231762
If you can't read yotsubato you don't deserve to be N-anything

>>68232055
Why didn't you just test the waters for free in the comfort of your own home?

I don't get the 何 in 「何ひとりで泣いてるんの?」What is missing? A に (for)?

'What/Why are you cry about yourself for?" is the meaning?

>>68232597
That's a fundamentally different testing environment. The point of sit down tests is that you aren't comfortable. There is real time pressure to perform.

>>68232597
I already did that, and it's not the same as taking a real test.

>>68232597
The act of taking the test under specified conditions, regardless of content, may be difficult for some. I was advised to sit one level down for my first time.

>>68232502
>Practice reading kanji all day
>Get thrown into the kana hell that is yotsuba
It's similar to Poke'mon.

>>68232502
Of course, people who care about JLPT are those who doesn't have anything on their resumes. For Yotsubato, you don't need to be N5 to read it. It's practically for 初心者 readers.

>>68232639
maybe it's slang, I'm not sure either

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>>68219696
You guys actually got kicked out of /a/?
Couldn't you just go to /jp/?
/int/ is really shit.

>>68233804
Mods banned people who went to /jp/.

>>68233823
You should go to /jp/.

just had a realization about pronunciation: i was wondering why so many non-native japanese speakers sounded so unnatural when they pronounced て, myself included, when i realized that many japanese people seem to pronounce it with the tongue on the back of the teeth rather than further up on the roof of the mouth where you would pronounce らりるれろ sounds. it's a subtle change in sound but for me sounds a lot more natural

ブラジルはもう終わったか
ここは今終わったばかりだ
俺もn3
合格すると思う?

>>68234633
そう思うよ
君は?

>>68234784
俺も
合格しないならきっと俺の耳のせいだ

>>68234153
>rather than further up on the roof of the mouth where you would pronounce らりるれろ sounds
After reading this post I'm now consciously paying attention to where I put my tongue (don't really like that). My tongue placement for て has been no where near close to those so I'm somewhat confused

Saying "Tennis" has a pretty similar tongue placement for me. Maybe a tiny bit more forward/on the teeth for て. Mostly I try to mimic the Anki voices/sentences and that seems to work pretty well.

Haven't tried an objective listen of myself through a recording though. Don't have the self-confidence for that.

Just realized all those verbs ending in じる are just corrupted する verbs

案じる、演じる、感じる、禁じる、吟じる、減じる、散じる、参じる、準じる、殉じる、信じる、煎じる、損じる、嘆じる、断じる、転じる、任じる、念じる、変じる、免じる、論じる
詠じる、応じる、興じる、講じる、高じる、生じる、乗じる、長じる、通じる、投じる、動じる、封じる、奉じる、報じる、命じる

トムとジャニーはいつでも一緒

>>68235360
へぇ
吾輩もその通りであった

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My brain feels like mashed potatoes, but I'm almost certain I passed the N1.

>>68236336
now pass kanji kentei bitch

>>68236829
漢検 is only for kanji, as you know from its name

there's 日本語検定 that is a japanese test for native speakers, not like JLPT which is designed for foreigners

some say 日本語検定4級 is corresponding to N1 so why don't you guys try?

http://www.nihongokentei.jp/

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sample question for 日本語検定1級

>>68237106
You can pass N1 without knowing how to write any kanji.

Total beginner here, trying to get my head around the first part of Tae Kim's guide. Here's a few simple sentences about verbs and time, that I wrote and then tried to translate. (supposing that they correct in the first place)

1) 明日わ読む
>Translation: ~About tomorrow, I'll read~
2) 明日が読む
>Translation: ~Tomorrow is when I'll read~
>Difference: Having established that you'll read, you specify when, so the key information conveyed in the sentence is "tomorrow".
3) 明日に読む
>Translation: ~I'll read tomorrow~
>Difference: Emphasis on tomorrow
4) 明日、読む
>Translation: ~Tomorrow, I'll read~
>Difference: No special emphasis (same as 1)

Are these sort of accurate? And also, is 4) a thing that you can write? I guess so, since I came across it while reading Tae Kim, but there wasn't any sort of explanation: what's the grammatical role of a "、"?

The N1 text abt the cat poop was cute, does anyone remember the source for that?

>>68237260
the 、 is when you drop the particle に, since you dont need the particle there, but you need the 、

>>68237260
>1) 明日わ読む
は not わ.
"Tomorrow I'll read"
>2) 明日が読む
This is wrong. You made 明日 the subject. 明日 is the one that will read now.
>3) 明日に読む
This is wrong. While 昨日, 今日, 明日 and so on aren't adverbs technically speaking, they're used like adverbs in these cases.
>4) 明日、読む
This is like 1. The pause the comma adds works as a は.

Note that in most cases where you already have a topic (は), you'll see it used like an adverb (like I mentioned in 3). For instance:
俺は今日アナニーする

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Anyone here has read Spice and Wolf? How difficult it was?
It's not on the reading list, by the way.

>「トムの大好きな女の子がこんな素敵な提案してるのに、 あえて断るってことは、それは必要ないってことじゃない。 だから、切っちゃう」
>あえて断るってことは、それは必要ないってことじゃない
Stumped with the middle line. "Even if you boldly refuse, that doesn't mean it's not needed" ?

>>68237988
Noted. I still haven't read about adverbs, so I'll save your post for future reference. Thanks a lot, man.

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>>68233804
>>68233823
Why? It's Japanese. It's a thread about learning the Japanese language. There's no better place for it to be on than /jp/.
That place could use something more than touhou threads, I think.

Someone please tell me why it's not allowed to be on /jp/, 'cause I don't get it.

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Confess your sins on learning this language, /djt/. It's alright, I won't tell.

Did you forget to do your reps one day? Did you give up at one point? Did you exclusively use Romanji?
It's never too late to confess.

>>68239118
I once made up a mnemonic involving Yotsuba in a sexual situation

>>68239118
I haven't studied since last christmas


If spoilers worked this would be spoilered. I haven't read vol5 of New Game yet

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>>68239118
>Did you give up at one point?

One? Easily 10+. I haven't done reps or read anything in 3 months. Every day I say I am going to start again, but I don't.

>>68239771
The best timing to start is right now.

>>68239984
Thanks. I just read a page of Zero no Tsukaima, so my streak of not reading has finally ended.

>>68240504
Do the entire chapter.

>>68238859
There's one mod who watches over /jp/ and deletes this thread on sight. That's pretty much it.
Some people have even posted mod chatlogs that show mods in favor of DJT getting moved to /jp/. DJT is only here because of the autistic /jp/ mod and the slow moderation team, essentially.

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>400 reviews due

Its been a month might as well grind them today.

fucking n1

dubs and i failed it

>>68238161

I wanna know too. Can anyone explain? I can't figure it out but I feel like I'm right on the edge of understanding. Pretty much how I feel 70% of the time while reading anything anyway.

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おはようおにいちゃん

あさのくうきが

りんとはりつめているよ

あさごはんたべよ

Why are you guys sitting the JLPT anyway? Are you really learning the language for reasons other than eroge and anime?

>>68219696
Anyone have any suggestions for dictionary apps on android?
using Jsho and its fine aside from some complains about how the searching orders words, just wondering if there is something better out there

日本語でどうやって意見を話せますか?

意見はきみのワイフはシットです?

きみのワイフはシットと思っています?

>>68242106
Aedict.

>>68241871
it's just a milestone for a lot of people, it's not really relevant to the reasons for wanting to study Japanese.

>>68242147
i wanna get white gf...

>>68242106
Takoboto.

>>68238161
can you post the full passage?

>>68241834
朝ご飯って何を食べるんだい

>>68242367
うんこ

日本人早起きだな

>>68238859
>>68241451
Reminder:
>>>/jp/16206484
>>>/jp/16167680
>>>/jp/16189235

>>68242367
きょうはじかんがないから

だいこんのふろふきと

おんやさいと

おさかなのにつけと

だしまきたまごと

ごはんとおみそしるとなっとう

>>68242154
>$7
i cant find an apk either so fuck that

>>68242227
ill check it out

>>68238161
I think it's intended as a rhetorical question

>>68238161
じゃない isn't negative in this sentence. It's like "isn't it?" at the end of sentence.

>>68242367
僕は梅干しのせた白米と味噌汁と

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>>68242562
>>68242817
日本の朝ご飯がすごく美味しそうだな
俺はヤクルトとサンドイッチと牛乳

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>>68241451
I wish we could go over to /jp/, it's embarrassing being here

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>>68243003
>生きて腸で動く

>>68243181
働く
・・・・・

>>68243181
健康に良い

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>>68219696
Amelia reporting in. So I don't speak any language besides English but when listening to other languages I know I can feel out what people are saying. It is my dream to move to Tokyo because when I was younger my older sister got me into Japanese culture. Wow what a rant.

I come here for advice about basics of moving to Japan and I am keen on learning Japanese And other languages, please respond with tips and the like!

>>68243485
No. Fuck off retard.

>>68243888
i'm pretty sure it is bait, edward

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>at work today
>asian family walks in
>continue cleaning tables like usual
>asian family leaves
>5 year old girl leaves behind sketch
>bring shit to dish room
>look at 5 year old girl's drawing
>it's an anime catgirl with an eyepatch, one-piece dress, fucking detailed as fuck

wonder if i should take out my webcam and post it. this is some really good shit for a 5 year old

Just finished the JLPT n2 lads. If I pass it's because I was lucky, not because I know Japanese.

>>68244338

Post it.

>>68244338
go ahead but while you're at it stop blogging with an avatar

>>68244338
Take out your dick instead.

>>68244338
You faggots need to stop. DJT is not a blogging thread.

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>>68242147
>I would rather omit 意見・思う during my conversation

君のカミさんはクソだな

>>68244488
About 14 months too late for that.
Good luck with getting them to stop now.

>>68224341
>骨
Is the little circle inside the top circle really supposed to be on the lower-right hand side and not the left?
Fuck. It's showing up on the lower-left for me.

>>68243888
>>68244072
Fml. I'm a retard who's tryna try

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>>68244606
>circle
But no, it's a problem with your font.

>>68244583
>About 14 months too late for that
You are just regurgitating what the retard whom moved this thread here said. Even if people blogged on DJT, it was somewhat related to learning japanese. I've heard someone say that /int/ is like /soc/, maybe they weren't wrong.

>>68244736
Yeah, 令 and the others are fucked too; I'll need to fix this -- and I just installed the Japanese language pack too.
Thank you

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>>68244425
>>68244430

maybe that old stereotype about asians being naturally gifted at everything they do has some merit of truth

showed my co-worker and he told me art classes in japan last 3 hours long, even when you're a small kid.

How or what should I do to live the anime life in Japan. I don't have money nor education, but I'm not that ugly. I wanna have a Japanese anime life because of cute 2D girls which I find moe~. I like moe~

What do I do to make money when I move to Japan.

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>>68244800
>You are just regurgitating what the retard whom moved this thread here said.
Anon, keep telling yourself that but you've got to work through this at some point.

>>68244920
breddy gud for a 5 year old, shit quality photo though

>>68245018
お金を稼ぐためにバイトなどで働く

>>68245071
she drew it on a fuckin restaraunt crayon

it's really hard to see unless the lighting is just right. you also can't see the whole photo. she has some dots and a cat tail swinging out on the bottom of the dress.

anyway, bottom line is it made me realize my childhood fucking sucked and that i could have been living the dream in other schools in the globe

>>68245018
日本人如くかろうじて過労死しない程度働いて金を稼ぐ

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>tfw you realize this thread is dead because everyone is taking the JLPT and you aren't

>>68244814
Fixed it -- all I needed to do was add Japanese to the list of languages in Chrome's settings.

I also have an unrelated Anki question.
If you know you aren't going to have time to study much, is it okay to study ahead to try and limit your reviews for the next couple days?
I've never tried such a thing but I've seen people mention it here before.

>>68245553
The least harmful thing you can do is set new cards to 0. Do your reps every day though, that's what anki is built around.

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>>68245018
来日、即日本症候群になるな、君は。

>>68245767
I actually suspend all of my cards and then unsuspend as I study them so it's not an issue of new cards for me. My review reps take me around 40 minutes a day and I would like to cut that down to 10 min a day for this next week.

仕事いきたくねえええええええええ
僅かに霧がかかってる

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>>68245936
We'd all like things.

What is the proper way to use Anki to use japanese?

>Use pre-made deck of words you don't fucking know

or

>Build your own deck consisting of words you've already learned before

??

I miss world2chan
anyone remember?
what's happening with RIR6?

>>68246113
The latter.

>>68246090
I mean, I would put in the work to make it happen -- like spend 4 hours doing reps on Sunday. That should at least take care all of the matures that I would have encountered for the week.

>>68246113
When you're first starting out or after you've built up a decent vocabulary?
I go with pre-made decks because I'm lazy and only 5500 words deep. Either way, after the first day, new words should become words you've already learned before.

>>68246401
That's not what Anki is for, though. Anki is supposed to refresh your memory at measured intervals. Cramming defeats the purpose.

>>68246486
The intervals on my mature cards are 28 days minimum... working ahead a week shouldn't be much of a problem, don't you think? I think that was my main concern.
Obviously, I'll still be repping the words that are new to me that aren't clicking.

>>68246360
>The latter.

i'll try to figure anki out once i get far enough in memrise. just bought memrise pro yesterday for $40 and working at it while procrastinating tae kim's guide.

okay guess i'm going back to tae kim's guide now.

>>68246401
>Either way, after the first day, new words should become words you've already learned before.
you can't learn anything from anki except some basic english keywords to associate a word with, that doesn't count as "learning" a word
with that in mind it's a thousand times more effective to only study words that you've already seen in context and are rare enough that you'll forget them if you leave them alone
do that and spend the rest of your time reading or listening and you're good to go
>>68246113

>started learning japanese 3 weeks ago
>JLPT is today

Okay, so this means i have exactly one year from today to learn japanese and become proficient enough for N1 next year.

any tips? just cram anki every day or what?

逆にこのスレ利用して英語勉強して良い?

>>68246867
>proficient enough for N1 in one year
Beginners always find a way to amuse me.

>>68246659
>you can't learn anything from anki except some basic english keywords to associate a word with, that doesn't count as "learning" a word

That's not true at all -- that's more a function of your cards. I don't have any English on my cards.

The front is a sentence in Japanese that uses the new word among words I already know. That's my context. I then visual what is happening and focus on the new word and whatever meaning or object it is trying to convey.

>>68246906
just try speaking English instead.

>>68246867
You won't be proficient enough for N1 next year
>just cram anki every day or what?
anki's just a supplement buddy, the main course is lots and lots of exposure
anime, books, 2ch, you name it

Hey japanese guy with no skill in Japanese

Was wondering what people thought of Ito, Japan? It is my hometown

>>68246906
>>68246980
これだから/int/は(ry

>>68246906
私たちに助かればそれはいいと思う

>>68246980
ok, ill try speaking english.
but my cellphone charge is a few now.

>>68247054
◯battery is low
charge is a few

>>68246999
How does that work? Did you imigrate to America before you could have contact with japanese?

>>68246988
>>68246939
Can I become proficient enough for the N3?

>>68247106
Yes.

>>68247106
In theory, but there's no point in actually taking it.

>>68247101
battery charge right?
or only battery?

>>68247233
most people would just say battery
"my phone battery is low"
"my phone is low on battery"
etc.

蚊がダイキライ!!!!!!!!しねえええええええ

>>68247104
when I was 5, yes I moved to America. I could speak Japanese when I was 5 but that skill was completely lost. But for what it's worth, I'm taking some Japanese lessons, and I learn much faster than the students around me despite having a shitty work/student ethic. Guess it's still buried deep in there

>>68247141
>>68247159
i have no choice but to try. i only have two JLPT's to get N1 certificate
>2017 JLPT
>2018 JLPT

if i don't get the N1 by the 2018 JLPT i will have to delay my entire career past the acquisition of my bachelor's degree.

so would you reccomend i clear the N3 next year, then use that experience to work towards the N1, or try the N1 in 2017, fail, but use that failed experience for 2018?

which is preferable? i absolutely cannot fuck up this decision

>>68247106
yeah dude if you study hard, N3 is like a years worth.

>>68247366
how about you learn japanese first

おいコキュたち
オレのちんこしゃぶれよ
お前のビッチのようにね
ゆっくりとしゃぶれよ
口に射精したら全部をゴックンと飲めよ
一滴も残すな
オレのちんこはな
黒くて厚くてすっごく大きいなんだよ
いわゆるビッグブラックコックというやつだね
だからしゃぶれよ
上位の人間を満足させるのは白人の役目なんだ

>>68247285
aha, i see. thank you :D

>>68247366
Why is the JLPT so important to your career? Anyway,
>so would you reccomend i clear the N3 next year, then use that experience to work towards the N1
Yes.

>>68247294
basically Izu (伊豆) area, including Itoh (伊東) should be well-known as leisure district or something, I guess. so not a terrible place at least. strangely enough, I once have visited there and stayed hotel.

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>>68246999
>>68246999
>>68246999
PLS RESPOND

>>68247512
I visit occasionally, and they have very nice Onsen
Everyone is very friendly there as well

>>68246999
>>68247528
知らねー

>nips turning this into 日本語スレ
as prophesied

>>68247399
What should my study planner be for this, then?

>Finish tae kim's guide (obviously)
>start studying genki 1/2 (?) and build an anki deck while reading it
>???

i'm assuming after that i just start looking up n3 study guides online.

>>68247632
不運

>>68247684
Read Tae Kim, do a little bit of Anki every single day without skipping (don't go full Ankidrone, though), Read Compelling Content®.

>>68247528
ヨッシーの足はどんな匂いがするのかなwwwwwちょっと嗅いでみたいなぁwwwwwww臭いだろうなwwwwww

>>68247684
How To Learn Japanese
1. read a grammar guide
2. 10000 hours of anime
3. you know japanese

>>68247760
STOP

>>68247760
ちょwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwおま

if you are using a non-standard battery code, your iPhone's meter is broken.
In that case, that will be repaired for using a standard code.

>>68247760
どうして

>>68247759
>do a little bit of Anki every day

but anon, you're supposed to only use anki to review shit you've already learned

meaning i have to get the words from outside anki

>>68247851
what's the problem

What's with the wwwwwwwwwwww? I see it alot, and it happens alot with my japanese keyboard but I'm unsure of what it is supposed to imply

New to Japanese

>>68247851
That's where the Compelling Content™ comes in.

>>68247899
>it happens alot with my japanese keyboard
What did he mean by this

>>68247899
Short for 笑.

>>68247910
And what is the Compelling Content i'm supposed to be reviewing?

do i just literally copy and paste everything from genki 1 and genki 2 into anki one word at a time?

>>68247933
I don't know why I added this part of my post but sometimes when I'm doing something unrelated to typing anything, like playing a video game, and the Japanese keyboard is on, it will put random phrase with a bunch of wwwwwwwwwww segwayed inbetween in the game chat.

>>68247962
Thank you

>>68248050
what are you even learning japanese for
watch a cartoon or something
read an anime book

>>68248050
No.

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>that music during the listening section

I just jerked it to 3D and I feel drained and disgusted.

>>68248059
Does your keyboard automatically type memes into chat for you?
That's futuristic.

>>68248050
Read the guide. There is already a pre-made core deck.

>>68248076
>what are you even learning japanese for

to join the workforce. i need to learn "professional" japanese, not just weeaboo sunday shit.

>>68248141
there's only one kind of japanese you moron, and you won't learn it if you don't expose yourself to it

Next level meming

>>68248137
Pre-made decks are shit. Didn't we just establish in this thread not even 30 posts ago pre-made decks are not how you learn japanese?

>>68248128
I don't know if it's recording my inputs when I don't have the chat up (like all the WASD spamming) but I mean it decides on which kanji to use, uses letters I don't hit, so I have no idea. Maybe it really is just churning out memes with out my knowing

>>68248141
This is a weeb thread.

>>68248128
what, yours doesn't fuggerbenis :DDDDDDDDDDDDD?

>>68248237
It's how you learn common vocab without having to mine it yourself

>>68248241
do you have an example of it?

>>68248288

zozzle

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>>68248305
"""""""""learn"""""""""""

>>68247819
i always using standard code.

/int/ help, I think i have next generation autism

>there are literally two anime chibi characters in my mind that i can't physically see
>they have been helping me study kanji for the past two months
>i am not memeing and being 100% serious
>they actually yell at me when i procrastinate or don't study

this is either a manifestation of my subconcious helping me study, or i'm the most autistic person on this planet

>>68248325
I can't show you until maybe 6 hours later if I even remember, so it really isn't worth the trouble.

>>68248340
Why do you have such strong opinions on things you have no experience with?

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>>68248373
what do they look like? can you draw them for us?

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>>68248373
What are you doing with that flag, son?

>>68248383

He's right. I did core 2k and it was time spent inefficiently. If I had just read in the time I spent on core I'd be further.

>>68248383
I had months of experience with it.
That post wasn't really an opinion piece either, just a shitpost, but the point behind it isn't subjective. You can't learn a word if you don't have enough information about it. Core doesn't provide enough information. It's that simple.

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I am being 100% serious when I say I have terminal yellow fever. The last time I ever had fantasies about being with a western girl was 4 years ago. What do I do? I want to have the same level attraction for any race of girl.

>>68248570
time to repopulate japan

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>>68248430
one of them is a japanese samurai with black hair, and a black robe. he chides me when i do things that aren't studying. he claims to be the person i want to become someday

the other is this girl from some anime. she's called dia and basically is just happy when i'm doing things that follow my dream

sometimes the two of them get into arguments, like last week when i went to the hospital the samurai was telling me to suck it up and that i'm spoiling my focus by seeing the doctor, and Dia was telling him that getting healthy is important too.

>>68248633
why were you in the hospital?

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>>68248499
>vocab deck
>word and definition of word
>not enough information

But seriously if you have trouble memorizing it then you need to write it down and also pay attention to the kanji used. People used different methods but I liked Henshall. Looking at what the kanji means helps me make connections when I see it in another word.

bump limit をお知らせします

>>68248499
It gives you the reading and the kanji which allows you to deal with it frictionlessly when you encounter it in native content. It's barely different from mining. Seeing the word in context a single time is not going to teach you the deep nuance of the word.