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why is south america so poor?

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why is south america so poor?
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US OF A
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The favelas wouldn't look so bad if they were actual homes with nice colors
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>>51104261
>why is south america so poor?
They adopted Iberian laws and cultural norms. Land ownership was limited to nobles, among other things.

North America, however, had a more egalitarian starting point.
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It's Poland's fault
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it was explored by portugal and spain, and everything they got went to the uk because both were in denbts.
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It all boils down to the race in the end. If it weren't for their black/mestizo/latino blood they would have been rich today
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>>51104454
no, it's the shitty weather. this is what creates latinos subhuman and makes white people leave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSjrabGdozQ
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>>51104261

Yeah, what >>51104373 said. Basically, Bolivar fucked up, he rose to power on an idea of modeling the southern american states on the US, which would no doubt have brought prosperity, or at least more of it through more effective use of land and associated wealth distribution (which in turn drives purchasing power up which spurs the economy and creates growth), but by the time he actually ruled shit he had become a jaded cunt and was an authoritarian dictator. Despite this his example is still followed, which is just fucking beyond me.

t. Chilean diaspora cunt
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>>51104261
Because it's full of South Americans.
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>>51104593

>muh it's too hot ayayayay need siesta

And yet Australia somehow manages to not be a shithole.
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>>51104593

This is also true. There isn't any hot rich country except for Singapore and Taiwan
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Low average IQ.
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>>51104261
They adopted Spanish/Portugese culture and laws which doesn't place importantce on hard work or self improvement.

They don't have a Protestant work ethic.
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>>51104673
>australia
>not shithole
>half of the country can't read
http://www.abc.net.au/local/videos/2012/09/07/3585457.htm
also the natives were killed different from here.

>>51104688
they are rich but the lower classes live like shit.
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most countries in the world are shitholes, why would they be any different, even Portugal is a shithole. Apart from some arab countries, northwestern Europe, Anglo sountries and Japan,South Korea, tiny asian countries, it's all various degrees of shithole.
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>>51104629
> which would no doubt have brought prosperity, or at least more of it through more effective use of land and associated wealth distribution
>no doubt

?

>>51104737
the average Sudaca works much harder than the average European. A lot of people here works from 6 am to 10 pm (or something like that) without complaining.
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>>51104890
Because Brazil and Argentina were among the words richest countries before WW2 and they were set to rival the U.S.

Now they barely rival third world countries...
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>>51104969
wtf? brazil was ally of usa in ww2

>>51104967
>the average Sudaca works much harder than the average European. A lot of people here works from 6 am to 10 pm (or something like that) without complaining.

yea, while all the britains did for living in these times was getting moneis from other countries in denbts, this is why their colonies are the best, they didn't needed anything.
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>>51104969
dictatorships then, I never knew they were rich at one point to be honest.
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>>51105056
>wtf? brazil was ally of usa in ww2
KEK the ape lacks basic reading comprehension skills, adorable.
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>>51104967
>the average Sudaca works much harder than the average European. A lot of people here works from 6 am to 10 pm (or something like that) without complaining.

How much of it is effective work? I bet 2-3 hours daily, the rest is being lazy and inefficient
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>>51104967

>?

In the US, land was pretty much given away to whoever wanted to farm the fucking thing, this meant more land was actually farmed, the land usage was more effective and crops grown more diverse. The wealth increase for a larger segment of the population is the most important factor, of course.

Sweden had the same problem until the late 19th century, and didn't ecover from it until after ww2. A system of few, rich aristocracy and landed gentry while the majority lived as poor tenant farmers, this is no way to make society as a whole proper.
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>>51104261
Corruption, mostly.
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>>51105147
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>>51105056
I meant economically.
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>mandatory south brazil/argentina meme
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>>51105151
no lol, they work like slaves. it's peasant tier, they only live to work. it's normal to people continue working after 70 yo here because they don't know what to do in life other than working. the unemployment is very high here and non hard workers get fired.
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>>51104261
The US has dictated every single one of our polices for the past 50 years
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BLASTED
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>>51104261
>am to 10 pm (or something like that) without complaining.

GDP per capita of:

Chile: 15,732.31 USD (2013)
Argentina: 14,715.18 USD (2013)
Poland: 13,647.96 USD (2013)

Poland, we are poor, but m8 you are the sudaca, to the point you used to be included in /lat/.
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>>51105338

why so butthurt mestizo? chile is a 3rd world poor country with non-white majority
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>>51105338
top kek you cannit concoct this situation
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>>51105722

and it's still doing being better than pooland
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The Spanish bred with the native population instead of exterminating them like we did.

Racemixing: not even once.
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>>51105152
Sudaca countries has as much land or more than the US, most Sudaca countries have a lower population density than the U.S.

Brazil is a federative state as big as the US with a lower population, but has a high GINI.
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>>51105722
So... what's your excuse?
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Fucking poorland my sides
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>>51105773

oooh i see another 3rd world mapuche monkey defending his brother from the jungle. how qt :)
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>>51105872

my excuse? maybe you want a banana, monkey?
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>>51105773

Pooland is doing a little better than Chile, actually.
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>>51105939

you monkeys are so funny with your gdp per capita

does it make you white?
does it make you western?
does it make you rich?
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>>51105939
>a nigger muslim country (Seychelles) is richer than Pooland
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>>51105939
This is because Poland had trillions of dollars injected into it and is surrounded by powerful countries
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The main reason
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>>51106047

Blame it on everybody else but us!
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/How to get (you)'s/
>open "make a thread"
>ask why south america is so x
>?????
>profit

Why people care so much about us, and why we care so much about what they think? This place is a violent shithole but since I'm not poor it's just fine, why should I care.
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WE WUZ
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>>51104373
>>51104261
>>51104629
Com here:

>>51105478
>>51105478
>>51105478

North America didn't start from an egalitarian point of view because the English aristocracy tried the Spanish model of colonization. Since they didn't find the resources Spaniards found (silver and golden in MExico/Peru) they couldn't start a natural flow of people to the colonies. A decade passed and the Roanoke colony failed. Only after 20-30 years did the English finally understand that they need to make the colonists work, since they cannot subdue the Indian confederacies surrounding them. Then the colonists revolted because these "working" colonies were pretty much slavery, with bad conditions, famine, religious intolerance and such. Once the colonist had seen it's better to run and live with the natives, out of the Virginia company's reach, the Company realized it needs to implement more constitutional methods. Give the people land (something the Homestead act of the U.S will later be based on). The Company had a legislative fuck up setup in the colonies that ensured a domino effect if one large fuck up happened, so the machine ran more efficiently, while the Spanish reductions (massive amounts of natives forced to live in pre-planned and built settlements with conditions that led to famine and fast spread of European diseases) secured the Spanish import downfall and subsequently high taxation in the home country - economic instability, famine, emigration
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>>51106155

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>>51106318

calm down, monkey
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>>51106377
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>>51104688
not all SA is hot you fucking moron
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>>51106155

/thread

Also, the fucking same monkeys, always

IQfag, Muh hot weather, Muh reggaeton, muh white people
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>>51104261
Slavery and populism.
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>>51106438

>muh Argentina is full of snow and has the climate of Scandinavia
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>>51104261
Incompetence and inneficiency.

All Brazilians should be prepared for blue-collar work and American and German engineers should come here to lead Brazil into a new future.
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>>51106643

First almost sensible comment.
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>>51106562
>To the right of germany
>Official member of EU
>Flooded with euroshekels
>Still poor
JUST
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>>51104261
>Imperialism of USA
>Incompetence of local politics
>A lot of resources but they don't know how to use it and where sell it...
>They don't have Know how
>people are not equal, there is many very rich and a lot of very poor ppl
>far from good markets like Europe.
>poor education and infrastructure
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>>51106643
Fuck off ─ćuck
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>>51106760

There isn't any country in South America that is even close to the richness of Poland

Sure, maybe Chile is above average in South America, but on a global level it's a middle income emerging economy
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>>51106998
>but on a global level it's a middle income emerging economy
the average GDP per capita of all countries in the World (in PPP) and the average GDP per capita of Latin American countries is about the same (around 13000 USD).

In other aspects (life expectancy, sanitation, public services coverage, etc) Latin America is clearly above World average.
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>>51105056
wait, finland was an axis power?
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>>51106998
Sure pal sure
Go check worldbank and come back
>tfw your flag is just an incomplete chilean flag
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>>51105939
>GREECE of all things is doing better
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>>51106675
>>51106643
kill yourselves
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>>51107284

Stolen money from the German people.
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>>51106998
Stop bully south americans, this is false of their genes, geograpic location, history, climate and local politics. This is more complicated that you think.

God bless Poland we are in this place of europe.
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>>51107314
and poland isn't doing the same through the eu?
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>>51107378

Depends on whether they're planning to pay it back.
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>>51107378
Nope, also we closed the most profitable industries because EU said that...
We closed 70% of factories and now we must close coal electric plant because they emmiting to much CO2...
Fuck this shit, we don't have atomic reactors or water plants... so we will probably not close this coal plants but we will must pay penalty to UE and they will cut the euro monies river :C
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>>51107120

>In other aspects (life expectancy, sanitation, public services coverage, etc) Latin America is clearly above World average.


You're a funny guy. I thought all the time that sanitation and public services in SA are africa tier
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>>51107378

You can say whatever you want but "that stolen money" was used for common good. Especially from German perspective

Poland is the fastest growing economy in Europe in the last 25 years. Not a single year of recession

German export machine is completely fucked without Poland. Guess who's manufacturing all the cars and parts for them (and designing those parts)
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>>51106144
>ignoring imperialism sabotes any effort in this sense
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>>51104261
Literally racemixing
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>>51108863

That's horrifically stupid. The worst country in Latin America is probably only of the few that are "racially pure".

In fact, the tendency is that the more racially pure a country in Latin America is, the worse it is.
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>>51108941

Examples?

By racially pure he meant being white. Inferior races like Natives can be either pure or race-mixed. It doesn't matter because they still carry inferior genes
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>>51109124

Are you retarded?
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>>51109206

No. I'm probably smarter than you.
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spics getting btfo
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>>51109245

Doesn't seem so.
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>>51109353

You're a monkey and I'm white. How can I not be smarter than you?
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>>51107200
finland was nazi.
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>Guys, wtf

>>51109558
Calm down polakbro
>>51109353
Sorry about that kek
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>>51107509
>Nope, also we closed the most profitable industries because EU said that...

I love these anti-EU myths:D:D
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>>51105987
>pooland
>rich
cec
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>>51104261
Socialism
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it's because muh reggaeton
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>>51106549
this desu
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>>51112023

This + anti-capitalism
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>/int/ was brainwashed by chile and argentina
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>>51114955
te ganamos pa
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Why do Favelas look so neat but be so shit.
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>>51105872
Being Polish
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>>51114955
They are better than you amigo. So is Republica Do Huezil.
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>>51104737
Dis, except for the protestant thing (I don't konw about it since I'm not obligued to konw about satan's worshippers)
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>>51104454
Well this also explains why poland is the colombia of europe, so it sounds legit.
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>>51104261

its a combination of many things, cant generalize a sub region of 600 million people

apart from some problems that came from colonization, thats not the main reason. count the fact that theres a sizable native american population in most latin american countries that still live as when colonizers first came, aka in the jungles in huts. they reproduce a lot, and when cities grow nearby they emigrate there. ergo theres always a constant flux of poor people into cities

the same thing applies with rural villagers

another big reason is the culture of paternalism and corruption, disorder and disdain for law that concretized during most of our dictatorships, the never ending drug war in which many of our countries have spent decades fighting on. the corrupt drug market system infiltrates the society in some of the countries

the only reaosn climate is relevant, is because jungles are ungoverned areas. many capital cities of south america are in places with somewhat cold climate
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