Alternative Art/Stylization General

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still working on this guy. any advice would be greatly appreciated

>>3124918
What's up with that tiny head

>>3124911
i dont like the way the nose sits, kind of looks out of perspective, but thats just me i think. looks cool either way. hand on books looks pretty weird but again imnot sure

>>3124999
I agree with the hand, it needs more meat or knuckles/other mass coming out vertically, it looks flat as it is. The ring finger's nail is also out of perspective.

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page 5 inks

>>3125069

I wanna see more storyboards. Blog?

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>>3125093
i barely started working on panel/story boards i plan to do a lot more since i would like to make a comic.
http://bigfancynoodlings.tumblr.com/

>>3125103
OH it's you. hello

>>3125061
i think the first 2 panels had nice movement keep it up!

>>3125111
ay. it me.

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I'm having more trouble with the hands than I'd like to admit

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>>3124903
is anyone here good enough to draw like this ?

>>3125210
Really fucked up, millions died in the Holocaust, it's not a joking matter

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>>3124903

>>3125219
Jew here, I think it's hilarious.

>>3125230
Fake Jew, post kippah

>>3125237
יש הרבה יהודים לא דתיים, אתה יודע
היטלר-צ'אן חמודה

>>3125228
Very nice. Do you have a blog?

>>3125219
>>3125237
He >>3125244 just fucked you. BTFO

>>3125228
>>3125244
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=50924636

p sure one of my fav pixiv artists ain't spending much time here

>>3125210
thought you were cool :c

>>3124991
I would make the back of her skull larger.

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3,000 years of chinese cooking

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Last thing I've worked on.

>>3124911
The hand in the top of the books looks flat, but the drawing is pretty good.

>>3125354
Nice! Through I think there is something weird with these boobs.

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>>3125202
Hi, bored, sry. Three bones jut in elbow pls study. Also wrist.

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>>3125373
remember that the palms of hands (and bottoms of feet) of dark skinned peoples tend to be a lighter tone than the rest of their skin tone

>>3124903
Who drew the girl in the bottom right corner? Do they have a blog?

>>3125397
No, they don't have a blog.

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Hey /ic/, not really a lurker here but I'd like to improve myself. I'm trying to shoot for an appealing cartoony style, do you guys have any critiques of my stuff pertaining to that goal?
>Learn to draw hands
I'm aware my hands game is WEAK, I'm working on it. If you have any artists you think my style is reminiscent of (in a good way), let me know and I'll see if I can learn anything from them.

>>3125219
dont worry its just me.

>>3125377
thanks for helping me out again, really appreciate it!

>>3125373
yeaaah i got that a lot, so it must be a real problem. Will fix, thank you!

>>3124999
>>3125008
fixing that right now (why are hands so hard to drawww i want to die)
Thank you for your critiques, my dudes.

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My goal here was to try something cartoony and kinda colorful.
This one is my lastest work and it is probably the best I can do for now.
Any sugestion/critique?

>>3125203
are you serious?

>>3125506
your character looks like a anthro mlp character, so learn something from that, like colored outlines,

>>3125210
Why is his swastika backwards?

>>3125385
Thanks for this, I have totally forgot about the lighter tone.

>>3125721
You're welcome, I hope to see this one finished. Do you have a blog?

>>3125811
take yours stupid holocaust denying shit to /pol/

>>3125822
take yourself into oven

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>>3125210
/pol/-tan a cute. A CUTE.

>>3125816
Oh man i want to see this finished too. Im still struggling with making stylized yet proper hands and trying to avoid ragequitting
And sure, its http://dreriart.tumblr.com/tagged/my-art :)

>>3125354
Very appealing style, any more?

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Quick little doodle

>>3124911
Very nice, just make sure you fix that hand and it'll be real nice

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>>3125203
Fuck off, Soejimafag. He's the worst MegaTen artist and you know it.

The real question is if anyone here can draw like THIS.

>>3125859
aren't the lower legs too short

>>3125859
Hey, that's pretty cute. I like her shoes.
The calves are ridiculously short though

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>>3123440

>>3125869
Sugoi

>>3125866
>>3125867
you're both right, thanks for letting me know

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>>3124903

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>>3125373
i don't really know how jam's top works, her tits are vacuum-sealed in there so they're unnaturally perky

>>3125855
i've got lots of sketches lately but they're almost all very big boobs

>>3126051
What gender is that

>>3126057
male

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>>3126056
You say that like it's a bad thing.

For the love of FUCK, MORR

>>3126056
oh hey magister, your big tiddy size queen is cute

related to that sketch tho, the hand with the thumb in the pocket is a bit goofy especially with her holding her entire arm to the side of her body, but other wise nwn

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forgot the water and resized

>>3124991
Blog?

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hi guys, need some advice, can someone explain to me why my picture looks so "flat"?
any other criticism welcome

>>3126083
character is either leaning their head against the wall or about to fall over....btw YOUR HEADS STILL ARE NOT FIXED!!!

>>3124991
That pose seems impossible, her right arm would have to be way shorter than her left to make that possible. Even with the size discrepancy, the gun looks like its cutting into her arm, it doesn't look like her right arm has any depth.

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What if anime artworks arecmy studies? Does it trigger /ic/?

>>3126209
Because they are 2 dimensional depictions of things. If you want 3d then try sculpture.

>>3125210
>mouse ears
>rat nose
<fucking perfect>

Its so sublime that even a seasoned counter semite such as myself had to double take to make sure it was what I was looking at. I saw that before the swastika, which frankly wasn't even necessary to convey what was happening.

Awesome anon, I hope the Jewish race goes extinct and you get fat stacks.

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might not be /alt/'s taste but I mostly post here so

>>3124918
Gun arm is very awkward, firing a gun like that would be painful.

>>3125859
Any reason her shins are so short? I figured its a stylistic thing.

>>3126717
>I figured its a stylistic thing.
So it's come down to this.

>>3126667
thats pretty dope anon, plan on adding color?

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>one again retards getting baited to dead and derailing the thread

is it really that importat to win an argument on a taiwanese image board where retards just want to draw porn of their imaginary anime girlfriends

>>3126856
Yes.

>>3125735
It's genuinely cute and nice to look at. Decent sense of design.

>>3126718
What? There is nothing wrong with stylistic choices, you don't have to like them. "Anime" style in general is not anatomically correct but it is accepted to mess with proportions in them. Whether or not you or I think it looks silly is up to you, I didn't think the artist would have missed it unless its intentional.

>>3126209
You don't understand torsos or pelvises so you symbol drew them.
Create construction boxes/spheres/cylinders/etc filling out the torso and pretty much anything else you draw before doing linework.

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>>3124903
am i still /beg/ tier?

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not sure if it's worth spending time on colouring this, so I guess I'm done. Anything I should pay attention to in future works?

>>3126914
Use full opacity for lineart! You seem to have some kind of sense of form so thats good, and you know whats appealing but I still think you kinda messed up the pussy. Its too wide, look at how this area works in humans, the pubis and all how it interacts with the hipbones. Otherwise not the worst in this thread. But try to get cleaner lines and use full opacity. Just draw over the lines youve already drawn and redo them until the look clean, big confident strokes my man.

>>3126930
yeah, don't draw arms so fat

>>3126930
Face is off center, fat arms, torso and hips are disproportionate

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So I'm still learning how to draw, and I'd just like to ask your guys' opinions on copying art (not tracing, but putting a picture of something you want to draw next to your drawing space and trying to get a rough idea for the shapes the artist uses)

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I feel like I'm rendering myself into a corner again, she feels really stiff... need a fresh pair of eyes to offer a redline

>>3127112
i felt like your sketch was way more dynamic

>>3127125
Same, I feel like I lost alot of the motion as I rendered it, at least I could feel it this time and re-trace from that stage

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>>3127125
>>3127126
I'm guessing it might be because of the lack of lines, but I have no clue... really need help

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>>3127186
Unless you were referring to this one?

>>3126051
stop existing.

>>3126363
what is he a fucking faggot?

>>3127104
it's okay I guess, as a study.

Learing structure would help you a fuck ton right now anon.

>>3127104
That's called using a reference and how it should be done.

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how can I make this more interesting?

>>3127265
Put something on her antlers ? also her hands are too big

>>3127265
There are lots of ways to up the interest:
>add a background.
>Choose a more dynamic camera angle.
>Add more characters for her to interact with. >Work in some sort of narrative.
A+ lineart skills by the way.

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Random elf.

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art drawp

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a bunny

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I'll stop with the nazi shit now

>>3126901
>>3126717
It wasn't intentional so it's just me fucking up lol

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>>3127200
yes, very much so, the cigarettes in page one give it away

>>3127413
>>3127415
This stuff is prime time lewd material

>>3127413
>>3127415
stop with this gay shit.

>>3127438
He should stop drawing until he's actually good at it.

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>>3125865
The way he draws lips and eyes are fantastic.

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>>3127445

her. no dude draws that shit not even gay guys

>>3125865
okay youre either baiting or stupid or have no taste
soejima > whatever this trash is

>>3125869
i love how your art is still bad and youre unable and unwilling to improve

>>3126032
i like this, really nice lines

>>3127346
no, i really wanna understand. why do you draw the exact same disfigured anime girl every time? this is so fucked anatomically too. please just study. do something. god, its always the exact same thing. how many of these do you have? 300? learn how to draw, maple fag

>>3127532
it would be she you autistic fuck and of course they do, this looks nowhere near fujoshit and more like regular gayshit

>>3127346
I still find your faces extremely cute to the point I can empathize with how you've fallen in love with them and can't bring yourself to draw anything else, but for the love of god please look at a pair of tiddies next time so you can portray them properly instead of drawing whatever the fug you just did growing out of her clavicle

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>>3127346

>>3127346
>copy that

>>3127265
She looks like she locked eyes with someone she really didn't want to meet so she's awkwardly waving with closed body language.
The narrative for this picture's existence is lacking if you're going for dynamism.

>>3126056
Eyyy you got a blog or anything?

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thoughts so far?

>>3127541
post work

>>3127734
flash me

>>3127726
Those are some wide shoulders mane.
Are you trying to draw those Kpop guys?

>>3127737
thought so shitter

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>>3124903
Can i get some critique? I'm mainly concerned about the layout at this point

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>>3127740
>thought so shitter
happy now?

>>3127748
blog?

>>3127739
yeah i wanted them to be broad but is it overkill?
and yes

>>3127748
>still no work
why does firez's work trigger these shitters so much?

>>3127753
Success breeds jealousy

>>3127753
They know he can do better and be better.

>>3127760
>success
2cuntslaughing.tga

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>>3126914
>>3126946
ty

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managed to slightly improve the gesture and values

>>3127851
Is it really gesture when you take into account the composition of buildings too?

>>3127853
I try to take into account the buildings too yes, but if there's a way I can improve on it i'm all ears

>>3127851
The values in your figures are always inconsistent with the environment. There shouldn't be darker values on her head when the buildings around her head are midtones. The way you use it makes it seem like she doesn't fit into the space.

>>3127849
Better, but he lines are still very wobbly. That is fine if you want it like that but they dont look confident at all. Cant say anything about the lighting other than that it looks kinda awkward. Im not a professional.

>>3127849
Are you drawing with a mouse?

>>3127849
>not drawing the drills
Why do you do this

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R8 before it's too late fixing shit

>>3127589
that's cute, do you have any other works?

>>3127947
tiny hands, hindlegs long. disagree with your face symbols in general.

>>3127947
Head seems far too big. I would also check a reference for the hands (why not use Mogudan's Rei drawings?).

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>>3127977
>>3127963
She's supposed to be one foot into chibi territory, because ful chibi doesnt work with tight clothes and body aesthetics but I want to try pushed proporions.

Perhaps I should go further?

>>3127986
it's fine, those retards are just looking to critique for the sake of it without understanding what they're looking at.

redline it if you're so great

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going for a realistic anime feel

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>>3127986
Chibi not big nose, cheek is low. also pls fix guideline it is stretch.

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>>3128007
if anything you get the tumblr feel.
Use rough boxy blocky shapes and lines for everything, especially the face.
https://imgur.com/gallery/S7dty

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>>3127951
thank you! i'm going through a terrible art block, i'm just sketching silly stuff like this lately

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Hey guys. I've just started learning from pretty much no experience at all. I struggle to draw anything that i personally consider even remotely good (and i like to think my standards are pretty low)

I see drawings in pretty simple styles and would love if i could even draw to that level. I'm looking at construction, drawing over boxes and cylinders and stuff to help get a grasp on perspective, and i feel like it could help me a lot but looking at stuff like pic related it doesn't feel like perspective has anything to do with drawings like this...

Are drawings like this something that becomes easy after just a ton of practice? Or is there something I can do to help get better at drawing in a simple style like in this picture?

>>3128021
Perspective dictates what direction that head and face is in. As well as how the light hits her hair and the way the shirt is shaded. Eyes, mouth and ear are the really obvious parts of perspective. Imagine if they drew it from another view. Wouldn't fit.

Yes, it becomes easy after a lot of practice. Despite the meme, understanding how realistic anatomy works helps in simplifcation to some extent. Or you can just do a ton of drawings in a style, but it's a lot more imaginative work and less reference.

>>3128021
>anime
fuck off, watch proko and learn to draw real art

>>3127986
I think that detailed body and dramatic pose clash with the big head. Perhaps it's just an opinion thing.

Otherwise actually agree with >>3128014

Also check her feet. They don't seem to stand flat on the surface of the water, one's pointing a bit up and one's pointing a bit down.

Also check her left calf. It seems to connect to the back of the knee too far up. The right calf looks better.

What I meant with hand references is that her fingers arent bony enough, and her left thumb is really long. Right thumb looks better there.

>>3127865
thank you for your input

>>3127870
sadly no

>>3127874
im not a drills guy

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>>3128028

Thanks for advice with calves and feet.
I for some reason don't feel like >>3128014 looks better.

Picrelated is what i kinda got inspired with.

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>>3128021
ok first of all go to /beg/.

>are drawings like this something that becomes easy after a ton of practice?

Thinking simple = easy is a classic rookie mistake. Rookies go straight to trying to draw simple easy styles, instead of learning their fundamentals. Fundies THEN style = great looking style. Going to style while skipping your fundies = shit looking art made by someone who skipped their fundies. that's why /ic/ and other boards HATE when newbies go straight to stylized art, like NIGGER YOU DON'T GET TO SKIP YOUR FUNDIES GO LEARN THEM.

TL;DR still life -> real life people -> anime people. no skipping

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>>3128107
>

>>3128107
You do have to learn real people first, but really only the shapes, placement and proportions.
Don't listen to memes >>3128116

>>3128107
ok, this is really helpful info. Thanks!

>>3124918
>>3126714
That pose is basically painful, try imitating it IRL, you cann't

>>3124982
Yeah... nobody cares anymore, he wont try to fix it, he just went with "its my style" meme

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>>3127746
same thing

>>3127746
>>3128184
looks like an interesting game, thats all i can say

>>3128122
>Study anatomy and real people bro! But not really :^)

>>3128184
typical western trash

>>3127746
>>3128184
why are the most important stats (the gameplay efficiency on the top right) the smallest but unnecessary info like the diagrams pointing out every little piece with its name and how much it weighs really large?

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THIS IS MY STYLE.

And you are a faggot

>>3127541
Care to explain in more details why his art is still bad and that he is unable or unwilling to improve? I guess i have shit taste or not good enough eyes to see throught it but i really like this piece >>3125869

>>3126667
Besides the mouth just being a line, this is pretty cool, this could be the cover of an album or some shit like that

>>3128018
this looks rad, blog?

>>3128223
Thats a good point! Ill see if i can change it up a bit, thanks!

>>3128272
pyokow on tumblr and twitter (i'm more active on twitter)

>>3128200
You can't draw anything first time without a reference, bro. The best way to draw a human is with a human.

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Took a break for a bit and tried another attempt at fixing it.

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>>3128335
Not sure if it's any better from >>3117573 though.

>>3127748
Can you please show me the original picture and the original artist that made the drawing>?

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>>3127280
I like this idea. Thanks.
>>3127342
>>3127602
Thank you. I think backgrounds and having characters interact with each other is separate issue to tackle though. Want to level up design skills first

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>>3128347
>shrek ear
i wouldn't say it's wrong but it's really not appealing imo and her shoulders are wider than her hips making it look less qt
overall it's pretty gud

>>3128443
I had it bigger, maybe halfway between the current size and the previous size might work.

Will fix shoulders and hips for increased qtπ quotient.

>>3128453
>bigger
oh i don't mean the size it's just that is peeking too much , the size is fine tho

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>>3124911
update on this dood. slapped some color on it just for a color test

>>3128464
that nose is really fucked up

>>3128464
The nose seems to be going in the wrong direction, but still I'm jealous of your skill. Where did you learn to color? Any specific peoples who's art style you've adopted?

>>3128472
I wanted to make a weird nose stylization. I kinda dig the inward angle but it may look awkward

>>3128527
Don't be jealous, I'm nowhere near good yet, but I'm real glad you like it. I honestly don't know much about color theory, I just tend to be very observant of others rendering and I try to imitate it.
And yeah, I dig Rafael Zanchetin a lot, Max Grecke, Lauren Austin, Baldi Konjin and John Zylstra. Hearthstone art in general is a big influence too

>>3128554
>inward

it looks more like crooked or going in a diagonal

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>>3128464
I am in awe of your colouring skills!

I keep on alternating between 'draw somewhat realistically and try and obey colour theory' VS 'Fuck reality, draw most self-indulgent simplistic pastel stuff'

>>3126051
congratulations! you have joined the illastrat, brian, nosebro and cumbum leage of irredeemable fags that will never improve.

>>3126252
well, not really
because it shows us that youre a complete retard who will never become good at drawing and we have one person less in our pool of workplace competition.

>>3127726
aside from faggy kpop shit fashion its a decent drawing
shoulders look a little wide/wonky though

>>3128007
looks like a disappointing low budget version of the dream daddy art style desu nee
let me guess you use tumblr a lot

aside from that its actually a pretty solid drawing, but work on the details in the face. teeth, wrinkles, stuff like that

>>3126051
every time i see your art i die a little inside

>>3128608
good, after i make enough art, the species will grow stronger

>>3128347
There are some small things that I want to critique about you piece. Do you mind if I redline it to help explain what I mean? not gonna lie it is mostly me nitpicking, because it looks pretty cute so far!

>>3128603
post your work?

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>>3128628
go for it

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>>3128347
You have the basic idea down, but it feels a little too flat. I think is down to her body and skull being too narrow? I am a believer that the less amount of neck visible the better for chibis!
I know Chibis are meant to be simplified and exaggerated but sometimes adding in little details like fingers (I sometimes cheat and only draw 4 fingers)can add more to the characters emotion.
I hope that makes sense? other than that she is friggin adorable and I didn't go anywhere near her face because you did that perfectly.
(ugh... someone teach me how to draw Kemonomimi?)

>>3127750
Yea they're a lil overkill, almost fujoshi tier. Make it a lil less broad and you'll be good. You've seen those models, you should know.

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fucking mirrors

>>3128653
>only just realized it reads left to right now

>>3128613
you mean become more degenerate

i feel like 90% of the people here that critique don't even belong in beg tier, but trash tier. It's literally like an imgur board where a shitty drawing of an autistic looking naruto gets more likes just because its naruTWO!!!!! Apart from maybe 1-3 people on this board its trash, more so because of the guy that is clogging up this board with this gayshit 24/7. Stay bad 4shit.

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Help me out, I know the ass seems off but I'm not sure how to fix it up

>>3128653
christ almighty what the fuck is up with your heads and necks? Just go and study them for at least a day before you post again, holy fuck

>>3127413
are traps gay?

>>3128354
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2752285

>>3128713
good question, are you also attracted to women? if not, gay, if yes, bi

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>>3128713
not on my server

>>3128653
Why do you draw such unappealing characters? What are they supposed to be? Girly men? Yaoi manga type men? Trannies in their first week of transitioning? They just look like freaks.

>>3128722
stylistic femboys

>>3128200
most good anime artists are better at figure drawing and anatomy than those fine art atelier guys, so yes, studying is not the same as doing a 100 hour observational drawing of a naked old man like that meme image suggests.

>>3128653
whats your main inspiration? what artists are you trying to draw like? I'd be willing to give critique or redlines if I had a better idea of what you were going for.

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>>3128649
Thanks! I did some slight fixes before your post last night, mostly to the neck. I’ll redraw it tonight.

>>3128704
try drawing the ghost swirl connecting to the legs as 3d and imagine it as legs would connect it looks like its connecting to the left leg only thats all i can really see wrong aside from cleaning the lines on the right cheek and the shadow on the left showing a different angle of lighting

>>3128651
>>3128605
thanks, I'll work on them

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>>3128184
lining the information text bits out and giving it more room to breath seems to have fixed the issue i think

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>>3127726

>>3128817
heyo u might want to make the face slightly lower and the lower body a bit wider

>>3129073
Neck sucks, normies will eat it up tho, good job anon.

>>3129073
Neat

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Working on my toning and inking and Stylization.

Is this pro-tier work yet?

I could probs push it a bit more if I'm more careful with my lines.

>>3129174

looks like a trace

>>3129182
Good, cause it's not.

That means I'm really getting gud.

>>3129189

I don't know how you reached that conclusion.

>>3129189
lol no, do you not see how her face is out of place? she has a grown womans face on a lil girls body

>>3129202
stop

>>3129174
the belt , heart and the stripes are so bad edited please kys

>>3129202
how do you stomach your own work

>>3129073
got a blog?

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>>3125865
>>3127529

OH SHIT, OTHER FELLOW KANEKOBROS

WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN ALL MY LIFE

I THOUGHT ALL ARTISTS IN THIS BOARD HAD SHIT TASTE, BUT I'VE FINALLY FOUND PEOPLE WITH GOOD TASTE LIKE MINE

>>3129085
>>3129102
thanks, does the neck seem fixable or nah?
>>3129232
torippu on dA

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I might need a bit of help here.
Was bored, wanted to sketch something, lil brother asked for Ichigo and I ended up painting for a lot longer than I expected. I think I might be fucking up the hair right now, I don't know how to paint orange hair. Any tips on how to render this strawberry's top? and crit in general I guess.

>>3129174
Blog?

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>>3129357
Thumbnail looks great, I like the frosty highlights.
For the hair I'd suggest making the tips neater and maybe adding more strokes coming the roots like so, also maybe try pulling his eyes a tad closer together and evening out their size, maybe also moving the ear a bit closer like in pic related

>>3129357
>shota brother probably wanted something badass and edgy
>this faggot just drew a bust

>>3129432
Too real for me

>>3129401
Thanks dude, this really puts it in perspective. I can see where to go now.

>>3129432
>>3129433
Nah he was by my side the whole way through, he was the one who asked for his face. On hindisight, yeah, my whole funtamentalsfagging has made me draw a lot more busts compared to the cool shit I wanted to draw (but couldn't) years ago, when I had just started reading Bleach and other shit. Badass imagery was why I started drawing, I think I'll go back to that stuff and see what happens.

>>3129432
>shota

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>>3125735
Maybe try to use more extreme Perspective.
Try different light setups
Use foreshortening.
Don't draw too symmetrical.
Push your poses so they look more dynamic.
Try more interesting colors (except you want this specific style but there is always a better option)

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>>3126667
played a bit with the perspective

>>3129202
What a way to fk my nigh, fking faggot

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>>3129202
>balls the size of a furry dog's

>>3129595
learn to spellcheck phoneposter

>>3129174
I dont know if its "pro-tier" yet but i like it overall, from a normie perspective it might be close to pro tier i guess, basically what i want to say is that its nice anon, keep going

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>>3128817
I redlined it ,i hope you dont mind

>>3129611
these threads are a fucking joke

>>3129643
the fuck is your problem

>>3129648
>too stupid to figure it out
wouldn't expect it of a teenage DAtard

>>3129652
if it's because it's furry then you're sperging over meaningless things

>>3129640
this looks worse

>>3129657
>if
this retard's still stabbing in the dark. this is why /ic/ was so resistant to these alt "style" threads. enjoy the flood of underaged morons that will inevitably comprise the majority of the community.

>>3129666
I'd rather have underage b& who draws than shitposters like you

>>3129659
Blog?

>>3129666
chill out satan, you're one of the reasons why other boards say /ic/ is cancer

>>3128018
Deerchip fan?

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>>3129174
you're getting there, not exactly great but hey, manga does have a pretty low entry point. here's messy redraw, ignore the artstyle differences aka faces.
You do have rendering skills, but things tend to look messy when you slap effects on everywhere like an illustration. More importantly, plan your poses, I am pretty sure you won't be able to hold a katana that way and I have no idea what the right hand is doing. Also check your perspectives and anatomy.

>>3129572
at least select the entirety of the raindrops so it doesn't look bended. I do now realise the perspective of the left car is a bit fucked

>>3128265
thanks. mouth thing was kinda what I was looking for though

>>3129174
Something about the chest feels weird, but you're doing good.

>>3129719
I'd imagine the anon drew the right hand to be holding the tip of the katana. Still it would be odd to hold it like that.

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tear me apart, please

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>>3129665
well okay,i was just trying to help out a little by drawing on my phone.

>>3128464
wow, this is incredible, you fixed the hands really well

>>3129565
holy shit thats a nice fucking redline senpai, it despairs me how shit like this goes by without any interest in it

>>3129665
It does not.
Get your eyes checked. Get your brain checked.

>>3129669
>>3129677
not them but desu I can't tell if some art is real or a joke. I wouldn't mind either, but the sticky is there for a reason and I don't think they're using it

>>3127112
>>3127186
Her face in the sketch looks more engaing, both the angle of the eyes where she's looking and the position of the mouth
The sketch looks more dynamic not only cz of all the lines but because of line weight either, i always found most f your final stuff flat and lifeless. Did you ever try to do it just a finished black and white lineart mango style?

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>>3129685
oh woww i actually didn't know them but i can see where you're coming from!

and here's something from some months ago

>>3129935
Is there any way that I can "bring over" my line weight into the finished render?

My old stuff used to be with lineart, but it's kind of hard to go back to that

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>>3129955
I'm a shit artist but I liquified it around until it looked right to me as it looked slanted

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>>3128464
Don't know if this is any better, but I really felt like the oversaturated coat takes attention away from his face.

>>3129640
Not bad, although the eyes now look a little saucy to me.

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>>3129395
I'm not currently active in any of my blogs, as I'm still prepping my skills for a contest, and don't feel like marketing myself atm.

You'll see me around when I start shilling my manga in a couple months (December) though.

>>3129604
Cool, thanks yeah. Defo gonna keep pushing. want my stuff to be as visually good as the best manga you see in SJ artwise. I was quite proud of that, I can still do better, and it still needs more work, but I'm learning how to properly use screentones, and that makes me feel very confident about this. This is another study I did trying to get better at this.

>>3129719
I have no idea what she's doing with her hand either as it's reffed from a photograph. I think she's just doing a cute paw.

Noted on it being messy though. I was mostly trying to get the right style for the face. Hote girls/waifus are what push manga, especially in Japan, so while the story will certainly be good, and there will be a lot of substance to things, I was working mostly on getting the style down for how I'm gonna be drawing girls in a way that's unique to me and comfortable to my strengths, but also very appealing as you can't undermine the marketability of pretty girls in pinups and stuff.

I will work on cleaning things up more and making stuff less sloppy.

>>3130095
>thoughts about marketing
>trying to match best SJ mangas
>by december

are you gonna make an entry for the shounen jump universal contest?

>>3130105
Yes.

It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

>>3130111
Too bad Tokyopop stopped holding Rising Stars of Manga, you're better than some of the motherfuckers that won.

>>3130111
Nevermind your art, how sure are you that your story is amazing, and can hook somebody with just 1 chapter? You do realize you aren't just up against the absolute trash littering the english submissions, but also against the works submitted via shounen rookie by actual moonruners
The Katakana in your picture makes me think you got some knowledge in moonrunery, so I suggest you check out those entries aswell and measure yourself up if you haven't already.

>>3129878
i honestly don't get what's so wrong with it, i was looking for a simple cartoony style after all

>>3130116
I've looked at all the previous entries from other contests on the Medibang site, we're pretty confident on what we've got.

Also, I do know some moonspeak, I studied it for about a year some time back, and I can read Hiragana, Katakana, and some Kanji. Nowhere near fluent in it, but if I win, you're damn right I'm gonna crunch that hard.

As for the writer... I guess I should say who I am, I'm ManlySpirit. My m8's a terrific writer who's won various junior awards for writing back when he was in college. I'm very confident in his ability.

Not only that, but our concept for what we wanna show SJ is incredibly unique, and has a high degree of appeal and marketability. Especially since Japan is trying to push into China and other Asian markets more. Our concept is probably the ideal thing to push into those markets.

I'll leave it at that though, as I'm sure there are other artists in here who might be competing, and the uniqueness of the concept is one of its strengths.

>>3130114
I do feel like I'm much better than the winner of the last SJ contest for their web magazine. But this is in a whole different league I think, I'm sure the competition might be more fierce. Still not many have the strength of it being a team effort, and have a competent writer working with them.

We're not just aiming to win and get a publishing in SJ, we wanna get serialized, and get an anime series, etc... So we're aiming to be as good as some of SJ's best. So I gotta work really had to get as good as them.

>>3130120
Your art seems pretty good, and you've done mangastyle comics before, so you do have some experience. Your designs are technically well executed, but a bit bland. No really super unique concepts here. Seems to be some sort of battlemanga set in am esports like game competition? If that's the gist of it then that's not nearly as unique as you think. Then again I can't judge without having really read it, but don't feel too cocky.
What are you going to do if you win? Move to JP with your mate?

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>>3130135
It's more of a sports manga than a battle manga. The only competitor I came across is The King's Avatar, and Accel World, neither of which I found to be very good desu.

Then you have all the Fighting Game manga like the Diago Umehara manga, and this cutesy other one called One hit Girl or something (I forget), none of them really hit the same notes we do, and we've seen a lot of thirst in the west for this kinda concept.

I won't go into detail yet, as I'm not ready, but don't worry, I'll post a link to the pilot here when it's up on Medibang. I guess the only thing I could say is that we wanna do for Fighters, the same thing Slam Dunk did for Basketball. Which is why many of the previous characters I've posted here felt very derrivative, cause they're meant to be homages. They're the characters in the game roster, not the real life characters.

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>>3130135
And yeah, the goal is to move to Tokyo and become superstars.

>>3130144
>>3130148
Certainly ambitious, also accel world is by the maker of SAO, which is utter dogshit compared to even accel world but still sold like crazy, simply through a bland op selfinsert mainchar, fanservice and a good premise. Let that be a cautionary tale in the taste of the consumer to you. I look forward to seeing your pilot later this year, wishing you the best of luck, carry /ic/s hopes and dreams with you and make it.

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>>3130148
>>3130162
If they really want to fulfill their dreams, the first step is to leave this place otherwise we'll be the crabs that will want pull you down.

>>3130162
Thanks haha.

And yeah, I'm well aware of the tastes of nip otakus. I've been following anime, pretty much my whole life. But I got a good feel for what seems to draw them in. I know that if I have lots of hot cosplay girls and waifubait, it'll make up for the lack of generic self-insert MC. Which is why my current focus on really nailing the style in how I draw girls.

I'll do my best though, I know that if I really focus, we can do this.

>>3130167
Yeah, haha. That's why I mostly come and go, rather than stick around. I do like coming to /ic/ sometimes as there are people here much better than me, and seeing their stuff helps ground me again, and self analyze what I gotta focus on.

>>3128586
Thank you! Glad you like my coloring. Also I dig your pastel style m8

>>3129868
Aww thanks! This is a huge compliment because I hate hands. I'm thinking about stylizing them further to fit the face and overall style more :>

>>3130066
Totally makes a difference. I will desaturate it, absolutely. If i do want to saturate it again, i will do it to the overall piece :) thank you!

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>>3129955

Higher contrast and generally avoid white backgrounds for portraits. Don't be afraid to use a hard round brush at first and then blend everything away gently, and watch the alignment of her facial features >>3130061 is much better.

>>3130144
I like your stuff, but I feel like you need to improve more before you actually begin a project. A lot of manga artists get a series while they are quite fresh but few can keep up with both brainstorming story and improving artwork.
Page composition is another thing that you hadn't shown much so I can't judge you upon that. But that shit's important, I've been dipping my hands init for about 2 years and I still think I'm not ready.
This would sound very pretentious bit I feel like you're at the state I was about 3 years ago, wanting to tackle a giant of a story head on. I started that project I always wanted to do and eventually learned I had tons of things to improve on. I've been learning by taking manga-ralated comissions and I'll probably break the wall with short stories after I finish this project I'm currently helping out.
I feel like manga artists either have great confidence and can start a series half-blind and push through, eventually getting the big picture, or they practice until they feel confident enough to show their stuff to others. Who knows maybe you guys are geniouses and have this all figured out, keep doing what you're doing.

Also the way you draw hair is really irritating to me, please don't use single strokes to represent strands, at least close it off, it looks a bit like chicken scratch.

>>3130148
Love your style, kinda looks like Persona from certain angles

>>3130117
I mean in general

>>3130219
Yeah, still got ways to, but I'm at least at publishing standard I feel. Even the Debattle and Trump could compare to some of the uglier stuff currently running in Jump, like World Trigger and Black Clover. And I personally dislike my work in the Trump comics a whole lot, haha. But I can see why some people were so impressed by it when I wasn't. Anyway, I figure the best way to grow, is to throw myself to the wolves, and work it out as I go. I figure I'll improve more and more as I do it. It gives me a strong reason to dedicate massive hours to it, if it weren't like that, I feel I'd spend too much time polishing up my skills and never doing anything proper, and likewise, lacking focus in the exact skills I needed to improve.

As far as the story goes, we've been prepping it for roughly a year now. We've even designed a fighting game, and its mechanics as if it were a real game so we can go deep into the nuance of the meta and all that. That aside, the entire story has been outlined, with all the emtional beats, while still leaving some room for changes here and there if necessary. The first arc is being fleshed out atm (alongside the pilot), and again, we have the benefit of it being a team effort. Being able to focus solely on art is a huge benefit. Me and my friend to brainstorm and bounce ideas off each other a lot, but I trust his ability to write and storyboard a story. Especially since he did do some film courses back in college, and knows about cinematography. As far as page layouts go, I kinda have a natural feel for things, but there is definite room for improvement, so it's something else I've been working to improve.

I recommend this channel btw if you're working on that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0fifdiUG9g

Also, noted on the hair.

>>3129174
what the fuck

>>3130287

oh your're manleyspirit, no wonder your trash >>3129174
looked familiar but I couldn't figure out why

>>3130218
>>3130061
Wew thanks, my dudes.
I need to stop forgetting to flip canvas.

>>3130347
You should make a habit out of regularly flipping your canvas. It's the best way to correct yourself.

If you're working in Photoshop, you can create a shortcut so you can always do it with one keystroke. If it's CSP, there's already a button in the program to do it very easily.

Flipping the canvas, and lasso+transform tools are probably the greatest strengths of digital over traditional.

Clip Paint Studio is on sale.

PRO or EX? From what I'm seeing the one thing worth it in EX is that you can do animation in it without restrictions as opposed to PRO. I haven't done any animations yet but I want to in the future, would it be worth it getting EX just for that or are there better programs out there for that anyway?

>>3130384
It's worth it for ever
You can always upgrade from pro too

>>3130412
Yeah I got the pro for now. I suck ass anyway as it'll be my first time drawing digitally so I don't see myself doing animation before at least 1 year (probably more).

>>3130418
nonsense, you can start doing stick figure animation

I'm better at drawing hyper realistic figures than I am at simplifying and styling them. I hate this and I don't know how to draw thing simply. It seems so easy but I'm so bad at it. I want to die.

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nobody saw that, nobody >>3130657

>>3130180
I wonder what your drawings smell like haha just curious

>>3130309
post work

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here's to the anons that never got critiqued because people are busy shitposting

>>3127398
don't stop

>>3130218
B-blog?

>>3126209
blog?

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Working on this sketchy style for my portfolio, let me know what you guys think.

Bisk.

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When drawing a humanoid with protruding features, is it better to take this into account when constructing the body, or making a normal human body then adding the stuff on top?

>>3126209
go to /beg/ and learn to draw before starting any styling.