Alternative Art/Stylization General

>2 hours and 38 minutes ago

pity reply

i miss the old op

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any advices for improve my current work?

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>>3066547
the head ruins this peice, even if she was "looking down" it wouldnt look like that

>>3066764
girls curve outward at the base of the rib not inward

>>3066770
>even if she was "looking down" it wouldnt look like that

How would it look then?

>>3066547
Why is this shitty drawing in the op pic?

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tried to be more efficient with the coloring but ended up blending too much

When will Chicocalte come back?

>>3066833
someone has a grudge against that artist.
and I see how that can be the case. he's an obnoxious dunning kruger.

>>3066764
hair seems stiff
maybe add some hard edges on some of your shadows

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just got back from hawaii, here are some sketches.

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Why is painting anime girls so much harder than drawing anime?

>>3066875
Top right reminds me of some JRPG game models. Orange ears aside looks sweet though

>>3066881
Who?

>>3066957
Get some darker values in there my man
>>3067195
The face really doesn't suit the body. Maybe you should tone down the size of the mouth a little.

>>3066875

blog?

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I really hope I didn't mess up the gesture again as I rendered it, redline super appreciated if I did

How do you measure anime proportions? I always feel like the heads are bigger but at the same time everything stays proportionate.

>>3066875
if you are who I think you are you will always be an inspiration to me <3

>>3067213
always gigantic lolis

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Any opinions about this would be really appreciated.

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Can i get some help with tits?
Literally never did tits before.

>>3067257
>>3067279
>beg

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>>3067213
I'm tired as fuck right now and i feel incompetent about drawing muscular legs but I would recommend you strongly defining pelvis and regoing external Oblique.
Here are some of my refs http://imgur.com/a/63S1R

Lower half of oblique goes like large chunks and the upper may get serrated where it connects to the ribs.

Also rectus abdominis isnt perfectly straight it gets narrow where it connects to the ribcage and pelvis while being the widest near the navel.

>>3067213
i love this
blog bls

>>3067281
Post your work.

>>3066827
After giving it a long hard look i think the issue is with the neck, she has the head and neck of someone you are looking at from eye level but the body of someone you are looking up at from knee level. And honestly even if im wrong about the source of the problem there is something defiantly wrong here my subconscious tells me so.

>>3067281
thanks man I appreciate your opinion

>>3067213
this time i don't think the gigantism comes accross clearly
there isn't a familiar object to compare sizes
throw in some tiny beach umbrellas or balls perhaps?

>>3066770
Sauce me.

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Been looking into improving my fundies. What subscriptions would you recommend? Schoolism? NMA? Also, made a small character design for critique

>>3067531
Two on the right. 1 is way too unbalanced in white's favor. Maybe if the leftside tights legs were white, but not as is.

Pretty cute and eye catching, overall, but back of the hair is feeling undefined.

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eh

>>3067195
You should make and alternate versions and give her green hair like Lum form Urusei Yatsura

>>3067531
i like 1

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>>3067253
>>3067385
She's not meant to be giant this time round, should I try to add a few elements to suggest that instead?

>>3067291
Thanks for the refs, does this look better? I'm not 100% sure though, I'll keep trying more when I get back from work

>>3067295
Yilx on pixiv

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Need to add background and render.

>>3067698
>She's not meant to be giant this time round
A twist! Also the crotch area and the inner thigh of the left-side thigh feels pretty shapeless/doughy at the moment. If I can find a ref, if I can.

How do you guys make line art more straight? I'm using SAI and already set stability higher, but can't make it straight enough, or can't connect multiple short lines.

>>3067698
boring symmetrical composition; poor, lumpy anatomy; unappealing rendering and after all this time drawing the same shit over and over you can't even get a cartoon nose correct? Good job hiding all the hands and feet too.

>>3067761
Do you have any better examples of compositions I can follow for a pic like this? I can try to smooth out the anatomy a bit more, but I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'lumpy'.

I'll try to push the values and light source if that makes the rendering any more appealing because I'm also not sure on that aspect...

>>3067761
post work

>>3067782
go back to your basement you lolifag

>>3067780
Dont mirror everything for starters. The loops on the ribbon, the three items jutting out of the water on each side, even the rocks/shells in the foreground have symmetry. The right forearm has an odd lump, the line from the lump to the hair bends the wrong way and that arm has piss poor bicep insertions. The thigh musculature is doughy and indistinct.

>>3067799
Thanks for taking the time to go into detail. I'm a bit unclear about the odd lump on the right forearm and bicep insertions though, would you mind doing a redline?

The most I can do for the thighs is to look for more reference...

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>>3066875
You guys are so bad it hurts.

>>3067850
post work

>>3066875
pls don't hurt urself again bb, you've been gone too rong time

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Well I've apparently graduated the basics at the beginner thread, so I hope no one minds me posting this here!

It's my first serious piece in awhile after a lot of practice, so I would appreciate any and all criticism/redlines/opinions/whatever so I can avoid bad habits as I get more serious into my artwork.

>>3067855
https://xnosebro.tumblr.com/

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>>3067869

this is the underneath anatomy that I drew beforehand to get a good understanding for the clothing. I was surprised at how useful it is to draw the base body before adding clothing

>>3067850
whats the problem here, i dont understand

>>3067850
The eyes and ears were slightly tilted. You guys are not on my level so I understand

>>3067869

Is this like the only thing you've drawn? Can you do other pose/face?

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>>3067890

Before that I used to just doodle stuff in paint with a mouse. I didn't get a tablet until a good friend gave me their old one and I finally got used to it after a bit of practice.

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>>3067890

My serious stuff on paint was really messy and I was told awhile ago on my first trip to /ic/ that it's a dead end for creativity, so I pretty much dropped the medium as a whole.

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>>3067871
>>3067869

>>3067915
Nose, what happen Bro? U got worse

>>3067921
thats not me lmao i like this strategy of attributing bad reds to me because at least someone benefits. The nosapoloosa ended yesterday for record.

>>3067850
oh. that one wasnt me either. though i did notice it i didnt bother to point it out though

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how does one develop a style that's actually easy and fun to draw

>>3067937
it looks pretty cute and fun to me. The only thing is the hands, they look unnatural

I don't think drawing is ever easy though, anon... its usually a struggle if you're truly trying your best.

>>3067923
I know it's not you. That was a joke

>>3067937
i hate almost every part of this. from the off perspective glasses, to the oddly shaped feet to the levitating wrench, to this whorish wench.

Youre so much better than this nile wtf seriously

>>3067956
I was hoping your return to ic would involve more drawing your fucking comic and less shitposting.
Do you have any characters or a plot yet NoseBro?

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>>3067959
>nosebro
>drawing
kek, we all know he's a worthless piece of garbage that will do nothing but shitpost on /ic/ and post "critiques" to delude himself that he is nothing more skilled than the doodling faggots at /i/. i've never seen nosebro do anything close to realistic probably because he only draws in his ugly samefaced style and can't color to save his life. faggot should leave /ic/ and actually draw for a year straight and learn to not be an annoying piece of shit. stop worrying about trash and go draw unlike everyone else here.

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>>3067959
Do you underestimate my autism? ive got 55k worth of interactions and event listings as well as research. ill only start when both script and art are satisfactory.

Originally my nosapalooza was gonna be 10 days worth of drawings ( no internet) but i didnt even have access to a table nor my computer for 21 days so that fell flat. now that i got my internet back im just catching up on everything,

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>>3067940
The hands are really flat, yeah. It was an experiment and while I like the design overall the quality didn't turn out great.

And unfortunately, looking fun isn't the same as being fun to draw. I feel like I don't have much confidence and I substitute it with being really meticulous and slow. The results are usually good for what i want to accomplish but the process involved is slow and frustrating because it doesn't have any room for 'happy accidents' or shortcuts

I'm not sure if I should just get really good at being meticulous or find a better way of doing things. Focus more on appealing shapes instead of slowly constructing everything, etc

>>3067956
who the hell is nile

>>3067966
>>3067959
tell you hwat, ill extend this to both of you. Ill draw 2 things for every one thing you draw and reply to me until this post 404's

>>3067972
holy shit. your style looked like a really shitty versions of nilefar.tumblr.com when he still did anime.

>>3067974
ok but you cant just spend 2 minutes on the drawings they have to be 3 hour drawings at the least

>>3067976
>"I hate some namefag so much ill false flag as him and insult other artists needlessly because the end justifys my means".

>>3067972
Don't reply to a namefag or avatar fag ever again

>>3067984
you just did though, lead by example

>>3067977
20 minute drawings.

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>>3067984
i really appreciate your fate in me. but that was 100% my bad. To be fair its REALLY fucking similar

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>>3067971
Cool, I think you should do a few panels as practice. Just because.
>>3067974
So, I'm the dubs person.
Does the stuff I did while you were gone count?>>3068000
Trips get

>>3067698
I think this is better

>>3067974
>>3068000
I think it's fair game because the thread I posted this image in was deteled... I still don't know why, it was there when I went to sleep, and gone when I woke up.
It was just a "hey, sketch a stylized version of the grill in this photo" thing.

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>>3068004
>>3067974
Because other than that all I'm doing at the moment is grinding super un-fun boxes.
>>3068008
Also self(you)'ing is a meme now.

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>>3068000
mecha nigger genie

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>>3067989
>>3067974

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>>3068033
bowing birdman

>>3068033
>>3068041
Lol, after all that talk this is the best Nosebro can do. Maybe >>3067966 was right, Nosebro being good was just a meme

>>3068038
>that skull
>those dragons
N-nani?! Someone skilled on /ic/?!

>>3068033
Well, it's been fun Nosebro.
More tomorrow.
I need sleep
A condition if I may. If this challenge is going to be worth any time at all, get out of your scribbly comfort zone, dedicate some lines, and finish the drawings. Fuck the arbitrary 20-minute limit.
Also, daily reminder to do your comic.
Oyasuminasai.

>>3067989
no deal

>>3068000
do-ra-n-ku*

>>3068083
ドランク
You are quite right.
Excuse... I was trashed when I did it.
I'm surprised the letters even point the same way.

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>>3068038

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mehhhhh

>>3068033
Jesus christ

>>3068104
is good?

>>3068107
No words can explain how good it is.

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I have posted in some of the previous threads.
I want to thank the people who helped me back then, each time I'm closer to what I want to achieve and to my inspirations.

Pic related. Now I have to polish everything.

>>3068110
I especially love how his left forearm is drawn, with the carefully placed 2 lines that represent what is known as the ligameme.

>>3068126
>/b/

oh no... it's retarded...

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Hello faggots, i'm from /b/ drawthread. I need your assistance with...pretty much everything. Confident clean lines, coloring, body proportions, hands, and poses. Any help is appreciated.

>>3068127
Don't make me slap yo nuts.

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>>3068127
>tripfag
>calls other people retarded

>>3068000
wait, you did such consistent lines with a brush pen?

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>>3067869
They are called Boobsocks arent they?

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>>3068092

>>3068137

nosebro doesn't use a tripcode

he's still retarded though.

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any crits/insults? Got ignored in beginner thread

>>3068313
It's shit and flat because you have no concept of forms. Read the sticky and stop posting that shit everywhere.

>>3068314

thanks

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>>3067711
finished

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Im having a hard time with perspective can anyone give me any tips? or redline/blueline this? I might gain a new understanding.

>>3068354

Add some foreshortening lines to give a better perspective of the viewing angle. As it is right now, theyre all finely connected lines with no flow to them.

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Thoughts on perspective?

>>3063226
1/2 way through, much to be adjusted

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>>3068416
forgot pics

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>>3068354
My english isn't good enough to give you detailed advice...

But basicly try to use basic shapes and a perspective grid.
Don't draw details until you have the pose right.
And you image looks like you drew the body after you finished the head... don't do that.

>>3068092
that eye and that jaw is shit m8, wtf happened to you man. you got worse

>>3068128
I found your DA. I looked through it.
You're better than 90% of the artists here.
>I need your help with Confident clean lines, coloring, body proportions, hands, and poses...
Are you just listing the things that you're already good at?
You definitely have room to improve, but at this point for you that just means lots of practice, and maybe go get some resources from the artbook thread.
You might find some decent feedback here once in a while... Try to ignore the bitter crabs who pretend to be professional art critics. Whoever referred you here was probably trolling you.

>>3068452
>You're better than 90% of the artists here.
Eeeh, i wouldn't say that.
>Are you just listing the things that you're already good at?
Just things i need help at. What you might not know is that most of these drawings take waaaaaay too long for me to finish (Days). Not gud.

>>3068461
>Eeeh, i wouldn't say that.
Don't misconstrue that - that's a statement about how terrible most people here are, not how great you are... All I'm saying is there aren't many people here who can give you quality feedback.
>Just things i need help at. What you might not know is that most of these drawings take waaaaaay too long for me to finish (Days). Not gud.
Well, now I know...
Speeding up is a desirable goal for everyone. Takes time and exercise. I don't know how to help you there, because I'm still slow as fuck... Hours slow, not days slow though, unless it's a super complicated work. And I don't into color much yet.

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I did this for a fantasy challenge, and it looks so terrible to me. I need to improve and negative feedback helps me try harder. Rip me apart /ic/, tear me a new one.

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Thoughts on this moving forward?

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>>3068508
Okay cause you asked for it. His pants/crotch are at a completely different angle from his torso. You didn't go through iterations of this design before you dove into painting. You didn't thumbnail. You didn't gather good enough reference. Where is he gonna put that gun? Just in his pants? Where does he keep ammo? There isn't even underwear. Is that a fucking bazooka? Why is it just resting on his shoulder? The strap looks like it should be for the bazooka but it also looks they aren't even attached to one another. Also the strap looks like a twisted up bed-sheet.
Man basically it seems like your thought process was "It'll be a dark elf with huge ears long hair and I guess guns." With no other thought to the storytelling of the piece/composition/anything.

That said this part is probably the best part of the image

>>3068441
the jaw was an experiment between girly face and manly jaw, the eye... is the eye not oriented properly or is it the shape thats wrong?

>>3068528
it's flat as fuck because the pupil and iris are not oriented correctly, how the fuck can you not see this?
unironically sticky and loomis, your fundamentals need work

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>>3067799
>>3067712
I hope this works better, am I working in the right direction?

Probably stopping here though, feels like I'm going too much into polish mode here and I want to work on my process more.

>>3068427
>you image looks like you drew the body after you finished the head
I'm not the artist and neither do I want to shit on you but that redline is terrible

>>3068532
i dont get it can you red?

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>>3068537
look at this and compare the shape of the whites of the eyes. look at the size and shape of the pupil and iris and see how much they differ from yours.

>>3068523
You're right, I didn't spend any time doing thumbnailing like I should have.

>>3068535
I mean he just copy/pasted the head from the OG artist. So yes. And his perspective is better/aligns well in space. So no. Not a terrible redline.

>>3068544
its not even the same perspective/directionality.
just red me ill give you a free one hour drawing of anything you want.

>>3068550
Nosebro you should know by now that asking for reds never work. The only good ones are usually once or twice a thread

>>3068554
im asking for a red from a guy two comments in for a singular eye. I've responded plenty of times for people asking reds.

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>>3068550
Not the same anon as >>3068544
but is this what you're trying to go for?
I think you're close but just need more references.

>>3068569
a bit lower and itll be acceptable within style. Just look below your gf's chin and youll understand

>>3068569
I think the grayscale one would probably be your best bet, so try that one and see how it works. If you still can't get it, then I guess you don't know Loomis construction well enough idk.

>>3068259
i forgot to respond but its moderately amusing though i dont really have a comment

>>3068259
BBC chan is that you?!

>>3068535
Is this the same guy as >>3068427
The line quality and color choice seems almost identical

>>3068577
wtf is wrong with you that looks nothing like bbc.
>>3067400

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>>3068578
Oops I meant
>>3068427
instead of
>>3068535 my bad
Also, I think >>3068577
got confused because BBC chan sometimes uses a red brush similar to to the anon mentioned in thread

>>3068581
Yes i made this two pictures why do you ask?>>3068577
Whos that?

>>3068588
Because I wanna suck your dick of course.

Lol jk, I'm curious to see more of your stuff, the Loomis seems strong in you.

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>>3068601
>Lol jk

>>3068601
but muh d/ic/k...

Well i didn't upload since i started srsly practicing drawing, but here is my deviant

http://jesterhd.deviantart.com/

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>>3068550

Not that guy but you owe me an hour drawing. I want it lewd.

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>>3068512
Whoops uploaded wrong one

>>3068643
going to work. youll have one in 12 hours time.

>>3068658
Legit of you, didn't expect fulfillment honestly

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>>3068643
>>3068658
>be nosebro
>overely on construction and be a "references are cheating" cuck
>doing nothing but sketches and "muh fundies" because the avoiding the polishing a turd meme is way better than knowing how to fix things as you go and finish projects
>spend all your time on /ic/
>make shitty animu redlines and act like you're a fundie master
>do a cringy video battle video and get cucked on camera by Putsu because you can't even gesture
>goes on stylization thread AKA /beg/ 2
>actually draw for once
>basically fuck up the whole perspective of the jaw and the eye in the drawing
>anons give him references to help fix it
>isn't able to use construction to turn references even on a slight angle
>asks for reds in exchange for seeing you draw for once, thinking that nobody can possibly be good enough to redline you so you'll get to be lazy
>anons actually fucking give a good redline this time
>cucked.jpg
>tell everyone that you have "work" to avoid drawing
>mfw

>>3068906
>>tell everyone that you have "work" to avoid drawing
More like he bought himself 11 more hours to work on a 1 hour drawing so its not shite.

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Meet Thugdere

>>3068906
>do a cringy video battle video and get cucked on camera by Putsu because you can't even gesture

When did this happen? Video?

>>3068928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqOiDj5IQaM

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>>3068935
>cringed so hard it's starting to give me wrinkles.

Unironically kill yourselves.

>>3068939
As soon as I heard Nosebro's autistic voice that's when all the intimidation from his posts vanished. It's hard to take anyone seriously online after when you read everything they say in that voice lol

>>3068940
its absurd to be intimidated by anons. word your post more accurately.

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maybe this belongs here instead. i did this painting today

how do you pick a style if you're super indecisive

>>3068964
just do realism and style later

>>3068650

This is really good! The way you flow the pose together from the top to the bottom is well done, and the lighting really sets the mood, even in grayscale.

The only thing that looks off is the chest, maybe fix the angle of the bra more towards the right and it will look 100x better.

>>3068926

The style is there but it feels really stiff. The angle of the waist is lower than the angle reflecting it above, which makes it look odd. Try making it flow a bit better!

>>3068949

The style is really neat! Work more on lighting though, the shadows are all over the place and really saturated.

>>3067937
Looks nice, but those hips are too weird. Make them slightly more anatomically correct.

>>3068984
>The style is really neat! Work more on lighting though, the shadows are all over the place and really saturated.
thanks! yeah I did a tiny tiny little sketch of what i wanted to do for the painting, without any shading on it. I could've alleviated the lighting issues if I'd just workout out the lighting in that sketch. Was lazy though. Sometimes I think it's better to just do arbitrary lighting than try to figure it out on the fly.

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>>3068940
I'm not even intimidating. I am so approachable ( handsome™) that i keep a log of everytime a person asks me something irl.

theres a small hole because i didnt have a pc for 3 weeks.

>>3068925
if you look into past posts its pretty obvious i work EST night shift ( pays better) and usually (3/4) have my weekends ( though not this month specifically). But if you want you can join the sticky discord and i can stream it just for you love

>>3068984
The style is there but it feels really stiff. The angle of the waist is lower than the angle reflecting it above, which makes it look odd. Try making it flow a bit better!

Thanks for the feedback. Honestly, that whole drawing is crap, the head is too big, the lines are messy and the gesture sucks. I generally have better gesture but I'm experimenting with a new brush in a different program so it's gonna be a while before I get used to it. Not to mention that the brush itself doesn't have any pressure sensitivity.

>>3068935
>anon's from /ic/ having fun
the video put a smile on my face, thank you

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>>3069051
This is creepily autistic. Nosebro, I think you need mental help. I'm beginning to think you're only here for the social interaction with other d/ic/ks like you because you can't deal with normies

>>3069077
dont you think its interesting how people keep coming up to me no matter how i am dressed, facial expressions, english or french? Maybe you dont think its fun, but i also have a self-fic about my time at my previous shitty apartment, etc.

Long story short, its story telling and documenting a fun occurrence.

>>3069051
I admire your dedication noseyposeywosey

>>3069085
No that isn't interesting. People will always come up to things that stand out from the crowd whether it is for good reasons- or for bad reasons. You probably look really odd and act like a weirdo in public unconsciously and that's why people just approach you sometimes. It's kinda like how people can't help but inspect an accident scene or trainwreck. It's ugly, but it's something that isn't an everyday occurrence so people check it out. Usually, people who are handsome don't need to say that they're handsome and most of the time are very self-conscious of their image, often downplaying it a lot. What you're doing is what most nerdy middle schoolers do when they don't have friends and have a lot of free time, not story telling.

>>3069093
DAMN.

Nose just go.

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>>3069093
why the fuck would you ask weird people for directions? I'm not sure where i stand on the beauty pole desu but i was just being coy and you overblew it.

>>3068663
great because you only got 30 minutes worth

>>3069116
How does it feel to have plateaued for the past 2 years?

>>3069116
It took you 30 minutes to make this? wow that's very slow

>>3069119
you have 30 minutes to draw something
>>3069118
as time goes on youll eventually have to let go of the meme

>>3069118
Post work.

>>3069122
i already replied to that one fakie

>>3069120
Not that anon, but Challenge Accepted Nosey.
This applies to last night's challenge.. Starting now. I'll take a photo at 26 past.

>>3069133
Uploading, cropping, etc.

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>>3069120
bleh. I'd like to see you render something Nosefaggot

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>>3069120
>>3069133
Didn't finish Inking... I can only brush so fast.

>>3069152
sure, draw me an alligator chicken and ill publicly embarrass myself by posting a render within the following 5 hours.

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>>3069152
sorry wrong file. :p

>>3069161
>alligator chicken
If you mean dragon, then ya sure.

>>3069167
no. an aligator chicken

>>3069171
god damnit nosebro, I'll do it because I enjoy watching you suffer. so like an chicken with an alligator head? would that be okay nosefag?

>>3069174
im asking you to be creative.

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>>3069156
i have the same brush pen, i fucking love how its actual bristles instead of felt tip like microns

>>3069119
>>3069120
lel nosebro gets fucked again by Dragon render anon >>3069166
Nosebro, just accept that you're not that good as you think you are and start listening to what the anons are trying to tell you, you big Dunning Kruger.

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>>3069191
It's so comfy.
Ultra gentle, no pressure, just brushy brushy desu.
It makes using a tablet weird, but I love it.
>>3069175
NoseBro, you owe me two drawings.

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still messing with halftones, thanks to the anon that told me about pant.net and its halftones.

>>3069199
I just want NoseBro to finish off some god damn drawings, rather than piling up thumbnail-stage scribblies.

>>3069200
i have learned that using brush pens requires extreme patience, of which i am trying to grasp, i picked up like 10 of those brush pens since they are pretty cheap, and im down to my last 2 as of now, currently using one to draw

>>3069200
that cat girls mouth looks like a vagina... i might masturbate to this later.

>>3069200
Dragon anon agrees, that brush is some quality shit. I'm more of a digital guy but I've also been thinking about getting a Kuretake No.13 brush as well. Is that a good brush to get as well or is the hype surrounding it just a meme?
Also, this >>3069206
and this >>3069199

>>3069202
Hand and wrist of the girl seem a little small but otherwise lovely drawing. And by pant.net did you mean paint.net?

>>3069215
ya i have a problem of drawing hands to small, and yes paint.net its clunky but i like the halftones in it.

>>3069220
Pirate Clip Studio instead brotha

>>3069221
alright thanks for the heads up, ill check it out.

>>3069200
can you link the brush pen on amazon? Also, do you draw with the brush pen or only ink?

>>3069209
I don't know about hype, I found them at an art store while I was traveling and I immediately decided I love the fuck out of them.
I have a few of the Kuretake Bimoji pens... They spend lots of time traveling with me and they don't dry out or make a mess in my bag.
They dry fast and don't smudge or run, which is good because my sketchbook get some rough treatment on the road.
They require extreme patience at first, but developing speed and precision comes naturally, because they force you to concentrate hard as fuck.
>Also, this >>3069206 (You)
We are in agreement.

>>3069226
I bought them at a brick-and-mortar store but just search "Kuretake Bimoji" there's 5 types.
> Also, do you draw with the brush pen or only ink?
I'm not sure what your question is... Please clarify
If you're asking if I sketch with it - straight to ink - without pencil, then yes, once in a while.

>>3069238
rip spine

>>3069240
I always wonder whether people who write stuff like this just don't know anything about anatomy or if they have some weird deformity that won't allow them to bend their spine at all.

>>3069191
>>3069161
here you go Noseboy, here's your alligator chicken...thing. I ended up studying some gators on the side so it was kinda fun

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>>3069249
Fack, no file

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>>3069251
You now have 5 hours starting from now, Nosebro. If you don't publicly embarrass yourself by showing us your shitty rendering ability then you will leave /ic/ for good. Mods, if you would be so kind to enforce this rule I will worship your guys's cocks or something I dunno, anything to make this a reality.

>>3068550
>see nosebro sperg, give redline in exchange for 1 hour drawing
>>3068643
>nose promise pay debt
>>3068658
>nose lie pay 50% of debt
>>3069116
>am sad but >>3068906 is the funniest thing so all is well.

>>3069207
>i have learned that using brush pens requires extreme patience
Yes
>i picked up like 10 of those brush pens since they are pretty cheap, and im down to my last 2 as of now
Leave the caps off or something? That's a LOT of pens to go through... Unless you just use a lot of ink...
>currently using one to draw
Post your drawing!

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>>3069255
FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT I HAVE TO SLEEP WHY DO YOU WAIT TILL THE LAST SECOND?

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>>3069303
we finally broke him guys

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>>3069303
>sleep
NGMI, sleep is just a meme. Just look at the asians and us workaholics, we don't need that shit.

>>3069303
lol, this is not rendering lad. this is crappy tumblr tier soft shading combined with mudmixing . try to shift your hues more and LEARN FROM REFERENCE MORE DAMNIT. but hey don't push yourself too hard bb, you might tear your ligameme and realize that you're full of shit.

>>3069325
ill try again if you draw me an elon musk riding a tortoise into the sunset.

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Trying out some proportions. One more level and it's pancake.

@3067850 thanks for pointing it out; i should have checked with the eye level.

>>3069156
How are you still so shit.

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Working on some Double fan art, I kinda want to change what she's doing with her right hand though since it's a bit fuckey
anything to point out in general before I go on?
>>3069357
Nice, got a blog?

>>3069589
>mine own sake

>>3069303
>he didnt render the chicken thing

doesnt count shitter

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>>3069646
i considered it at the beginning but i disagreed with the linework too much and gave up soon after
>>3069200
2

>>3068984
>The only thing that looks off is the chest, maybe fix the angle of the bra more towards the right and it will look 100x better.

Thanks man I will do this

>>3069650
>disagreed with the linework too much
post your chicken alligator.

>>3069674
ill draw a chicken alligator if you draw a dragon yeti

>>3069692
then when are u gonna render anything

>>3069709
one trade at a time.

>>3069774
Blog?

>>3069774
i second that, do you have a blog sir? and maybe some tips on how to draw?

>>3069749
and you still haven't completed the first one with the alligator chicken

>>3069785
i did a painting you just refuse it.

>>3069786
this anon >>3068643
still hasn't gotten his lewd, noseboy

>>3069849
wait nvm I guess that shitty ponytail girl is very slightly lewd. Still not an hour long drawing tho :p

>>3068128
Leave and find art Discord servers. You're not going to find much other than armchair artists.

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I think I'm done with this

>>3069975
B L O G
L
O
G

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some stuff from imagination

>>3069981
pedophile.blogspot

>>3069430
post your work.

>>3069981
firez-tbr.tumblr.com

Thanks anon :)

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feel free to crit

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>>3070160
you need to loosen up anon... it's like your wrist can't help but draw the same anime face over and over again.

Try this: Draw someone "ugly". Draw someone with the goal of making them abnormal and un-aesthetic. That will help you to open up your likenesses a little bit.

da Vinci and Michelangelo used that technique to break up the monotony of drawing ideal faces all the time, and it helped them to loosen up their ideas of what a face should look like.

I'd say this crit applies to a wide group of Alt/Style artists... not gonna (You) all of them.

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>>3070173
it's something I do a lot between faces that are meant to be "beautiful"... pic related is me trying to stretch out a little bit and just draw an irregular face

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>>3069924
reminds me of koki

>>3070173
Thanks for reminding me of that. It was on my list of things that I need to practice. Whenever I've done that in the past, I always ended up with unappealing shapes and resorted back to my default faces. Something I've been trying to figure out is how to push the proportions and shapes and still maintain a cohesive style.

>>3070294
Horrible, back to /beg/ with you

>>3070297
I don't like the style either, but come on now.

>>3070294
>>3070183
Are these the same person

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>>3068413

>>3070294
i like your style.
>>3069852
i dont draw erotic content as im a christian. Sorry.

>>3069191
What kind of pen is this, please?

>>3069303
God you're bad.

>>3070297
Much better than nose give me a fucking break

>>3070390
care to post your work
>>3070394
if that makes you feel better big buddy

>>3070394
>>3070398
when nose is the only one that doesn't shit all over you, and you still all over him. I may not like your art's style, but I like your style.

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hi /ic/

>>3070456
>Those 2d eyes
Fuck off back to /beg/ and come back when you learn actual fundies, newfag.
Also stop drawing anime.

>>3070500
>not knowing the artist
>not knowing his stuff from /i/
>newfag

Your post stinks of summer

>>3070294
This looks so fucking good, I especially like the pose on the top left. I better be seeing this in the next thread's op image

>>3070370
so christians dont have sex? jesus thats boring, im sure jesus didnt mean for this to happen.

>>3070500
welcome to /ic/

>>3069116
For all the shit talking and your massive ego I seriously expected way better stuff to be posted.

>>3070456
unironically, do you have a blog or something?

(I can't believe I have to precede my post with unironically, but such is the way of /ic I suppose...)

>>3070624
Every thread anons ask for blog
That anon never replies; not to compiments, not to crits, nothing.

>>3070500
>stop drawing anime
>in a anime drawings thread
Stop fucking shitposting, underaged newfag.

>>3070598
Did you draw this? Really nice.

>>3070626
Don't you just hate those guys.

>>3067850
>Hand is too big and deformed
>"you made a tiny error in the alignment of the eyes so you're not on my level

I mean this IS bait but idgaf

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please tell me what i should imporve!

>>3070456
B l o g n o w

>>3070554
not in public.

>>3070722
Firstly, don't pull that "eyes go over the bangs" stuff again, it just looks bad. Your line weighting is decent, but just do some real life studies instead of jumping right into the animu. It's okay, but just barely. I hope to see you use references next time.

>>3070725
So you just dont want people to know you have sex? I mean non christians also dont usually have sex in public but still draw lewds.

>>3069156
What brush...?

P-please?

>>3070429
That wasn't the artist. I don't love the artists style but I felt I had to defend him because he is better than a lot of people that post.

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Do you guys consider this nicely stylized? I know it can use more rendering, other that that what can be improved? Posting here as I got btfo'd from the /beg/ thread for being "good"

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>>3070730
this is helpful! thank you. i mostly do the bangs over eyes thing because i feel like the face is less expressive when the eyes aren't visible, but i think i could do with drawing them a bit shorter.
where do you usually get good references from? do you look at photos or at real life?

>>3070731
Im keeping myself for marriage, ive never seen female genitalia.

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>>3070754

>>3070761
ya, thats the face youll make as you burn in hell faggot.

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>>3070765
>implying I'm stupid enough to believe in stories made up thousands of years ago to explain existence because humans didn't know any better
>implying I'm scared off punishment invented by the church to make money

>>3070737
Kuretake Bimoji.
It's already been posted in this thread, but I don't mind.

>>3070784
its not old stories, theyve been updated to reflect god better. Thats why we have the new testamint, to keep it fresh.

>>3070784
>implying I'm scared off punishment invented by the church to make money
Aside from the money I think they needed a way to reduce crime and keep people behaving properly because everyone was a barbarian back then.

>>3070761
That'll be my face when you realize that you have wasted all your life following ancient texts that people only really believed because the average human was so educated they couldn't read much less understand what they were being told by their priest because it was in latin.

So back then I could understand it but now it just makes me laugh

>>3070722
>>3070751
I like your colors a lot.

>>3070790
true

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>>3070790
This, also, in Dante's map of hell, the artist made liars the lowest level because he personally had a grudge against them for exiling him out of Florence. His painting scared loads of people into going to church more and committing less crimes. All of these scare tactics are man made.

>>3070809
this remainds me of made in the abyss
do you thing there are lolis in hell?

>>3070829
only the ones with whips, leather attire and that domina attitude

>>3070835
ah i forgot the ;)

>>3070801
thank you! i like colouring, but i think i could improve them by making colour palletes beforehand

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Hello

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>>3070788
The New Testament wasn't to reflect God better, it was to change the Jewish religion to its own new religion while still utilizing the Jewish beliefs - similar or Islam's Quran. After all, it's easier to convert people when at least half of their beliefs exist in your religion already.

>>3070790
Not everyone was a barbarian. Just as today, some people are dicks and some aren't. Religion served as a unification tool and a set of basic laws to make travel and trade in different Christian communities more practical as they would, for the most part, have similar laws.

In general, it's more a tool of unification than anything.

>>3070969
Yes, it's such an unifying religion that they used to lynch hundreds of people for not agreeing with their bullshit

>>3070785
I'm sorry, I didn't see the answer. I looked through again even.

Thanks you for your answer, your work is very good ^~^

>>3071092
Aww :3 I've got a long way to go, but thanks!

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>>3071109
>the guy who made >>3068000 and >>3069156
>I've got a long way to go
you have no idea

>>3071113
Post work

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>>3071116

>>3071118
You just got some random guy's painting from deviantart, get good fag

>>3071122
Post the random guy's deviant art then

>>3071123
I was being generous, if that's actually you then you're at no level to be talking smug about someone else's work

>>3071126
> you're at no level to be talking smug about someone else's work
logical fallacy. you don't have to be a doctor to know if a surgeon is fucking something up badly.

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Some heads

>>3071128
My point is that you should get good before "criticising" someone's else art and acting like an asshole. At least give them some actual good advice, faggot.

>>3071129
>tfw you've been on /ic/ so long you've started to draw in redlines

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>>3071113
Every hobbyist has to be
>The best. Ever.
>You must surpass world-renowned career pros or you're worthless.
Have fun with your highly realistic expectations...
Meanwhile I'm going to actually have fun, improve, continue to work in my unrelated career, and keep drawing as one of my hobbies.
All I want is incremental improvement and some fun along the way, which I'm getting...
I'm happy, are you?
:)

>>3071123
http://misterdharc.deviantart.com/
But given the other content there, you either stole from dragon anon or you are dragon anon.
Prove it and upload the alligator chicken to that DA profile.

>>3071130
all right I'll bite. how about if I give the dude advice you give me some advice to improve that old painting. for >>3069156 I'd say do more skull studies, especially on how the jaw flows into the ear and how the ears can be thought of as "hanging" off the cheekbones.search on youtube "Sinix" and he should have a tutorial on faces which goes over this

>>3071134
i am dragon anon, i only post there so often just to have some presence, so some stuff is old. i only just gotten serious about art about 9 months ago so i've been doing the 12-16 hours a day meme this past week

>>3071134
http://misterdharc.deviantart.com/art/old-stuff-from-upcoming-sketchdump-694379696?ga_submit_new=10%3A1500850077

>>3071144
oops, i gave the wrong sketch, here's the alligator chicken http://misterdharc.deviantart.com/art/alligator-chicken-694380014?ga_submit_new=10%3A1500850179

>>3071142
Prove it by uploading to that DA, because the headphone guy you claimed on this thread was done on MAY 29th
It's the same resolution too
You either stole it a drew in the margins, or you lied about doing it for this thread.
BTFO

>>3071139
There's nothing wrong with your painting, it's just a portrait so there's not much to fuck up. Seeing from your deviantart though, you need to pratice anatomy. It's really off on most of your illustrations. But I can say that you've really gotten better since 2016.

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>>3071149
i didn't even know anatomy was a thing in 2016, i drew those trying to do it all just with my vauge knowlege of muscles. the problem was i was actually very good at copying from reference but i suffered the proko curse when drawing people from imagination. had i not been such a retard and just drew from reference and 3d models more I would've been much farther now. ironically because i fell into the construction meme too much, i thought i could rely on it and not need to use references to learn. as soon as i gave up loomis and found my own way of freehand drawing, i've started seeing massive improvements
also i like how you say that just because it's a portrait there's not much to fuck up, even though that's not true. there's a reason why in comics they say cool hands and faces are what get you job- they're the hardest things to make look good because they require you to be very accurate

>>3071129
I miss your portraits, man. Also, the way you outlined the shadow below the lip looks a bit awkward on the two left female portraits; they're a little too heavy there.

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>>3071161
tl;dr
i was being a Nosebro and thought relying on references was cheating when in fact that was what i should've been doing to improve my memory skills all along. use what works for you kiddos, don't fall into the overconstruction meme and just draw things you see as much as possible to draw things that you can't see(like dragons and cute asian women)

lul 12-16 hours is a meme. It's simply not real. U may be active the first hour or so, but the other 15 hours will probably be made up of random mindless doodling that won't get you anywhere.

>>3071161
>>3071139
>I'd say do more skull studies,
Thanks for the critique. I do studies. I've only been drawing since New Years' All my art is 2017, and I'm a hobbyist.
That said, you're critiquing a 30 minute sketch. You lied about even doing yours. Nosebro gave you 30 minutes to do something, and you posted a picture you did in MAY.

>>3071167
I've been able to do it for a week now. Honestly, the biggest problem is choosing how to stucture your sleep cycle to prevent burnout and sleepy days. That and resisting the urge to waste time on /ic/ and watch youtube. I've found that waking up somewhat early in the morning actually helps you get up easier in the long run as apposed to passing out till 12 PM. Currently the schedule is sleep around 12AM-1AM and wake up at 6:30-7 PM. I tried doing 4:20 AM for the meme but I always sleep past it.
As for >>3071176 I did that to troll Nosebro, I know that faggot won't try and make an actually decent drawing anyways... he reminds me of my old self, I thought I knew everything when I learned about construction but I really was just relying on it to avoid having to practice and grind more. On a side note, I did remember that I painted that thing in Sai in only about 40 minutes though, so I wasn't too far off. The line drawings I did do on the spot though, and I banged all of them out in like 10-15 minutes(Sai just rapes both Clip Studio and Photoshop in terms of speed IMO).

>>3071176
Hey man, if you started at 2017 then you're actually not doing as bad as I thought. I'd say just going to the book thread and studying the sketches of anime animators like Yoshinari would be a good boost to your abilities in addition to the skull thing I said earlier. Good luck, don't get worried about imagination drawing yet, just study hard and you'll improve

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>>3070973
The military uses the same method. It's call in-group/out-group.

"One of us. One of us. One of us. One of us."

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>>3071183
>I did that to troll Nosebro
This is a worthy cause, but remember that a lie is a lie. I'll let it go.
>>3071184
That's what I'm doing. Lots of studies, interspersed with imagination pieces, like that one.
That's an imagination piece. Most of my stuff is if it's not directly a study.
>>3071176
>>3071176
The challenge of working with only lineart and no rendering is that the real anatomy under the skin is invisible, and there's no good edges to put lines along in some places. Like an upward 3/4 shot of the face...
The real silhouette doesn't translate to lines well, the real anatomy is buried under skin. How, then, do you stylize and keep the picture both aesthetic and believable?
Look at this photo.
How would you do aesthetic line-only lineart at this angle without breaking rules?
That's what I'm working on. You can play with the location of the lines and the line weight, but rules only stretch so far. That is the heart of excellent stylization... This is the stylization thread.
Now, stylization is no excuse for incompetence, and it definitely doesn't replace the understanding of anatomy... But just saying "skull studies Loomis etc" betrays a misunderstanding.

>>3071184
>>3071188
Give me 30 minutes and I'll dig up that sketch, finish, and render a bit.
I only have a grey marker but it'll help to understand what I was getting at when I drew it... It'll be a good exercise for me too.