/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

i want to die

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Have you guys ever had that day, where you get all hyped to go study fundies and draw shit, and then you start drawing, only to realize everything you do is suddenly extremely shit, What do? I feel like killing myself.

>>2930199
>>2930197
Hey guys - we all have those days. Don't forget what uncle Bob said :Everyday is a good day when you paint! https://youtu.be/YLO7tCdBVrA

Relax, stretch, go get a drink. Sit down and do something simple, draw a box, a circle, doodle around. Relax your muscles , draw from the shoulder. Don't think about the outcome, don't think about showing this to anyone. This is your crazy little warm up.

Don't give up! Moments like this happen - but you need to learn to work trough them to build discipline! Start working on another drawing. Draw a bit in your comfort zone. Draw the animu girls. All of them!

And when you feel relaxed go back to learning.

Alternatively to all this go do some sport and try again after that - but ppl around here don't seem so motivated to move their lazy behinds.

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>>2930209
Thanks anon, you gave me hope and determination

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Please God, have mercy on my soul.

>>2930213
How about you tell us a bit about yoursekd , your dreams and aspirations. And maybe post a bit more of your work. Then we can give you a critic that's useful to you.

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After editing some parts so that it more accurately resembles the reference, the drawing at least looks like Taylor a bit now (though my scanner doesn't seem to notice the lightest shades). I've been wondering how to render the hair though, I feel like it will become a blurry mess if I just hold my pencil sideways to add shades.. any tips?

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>>2930231

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>>2930233
What's bad ? What's good ?

>>2930229
Don't trace

>>2930239
Well seeing as I haven't, I think that's a compliment?

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>>2930231
Here's the reference

>>2930229
The first thing that pops out to me is the tilt of her head. It's tilted ever so slightly forward and I think your drawing has failed to capture that. That's why the distance between her eyes and lips is off, you're not envisioning her head at that forward angle. Also, that's not the whorl on the crown of her head you see in the reference, but you drew it like it is (or at least that's what it looks like).

Also the lips are too wide, in particular the bottom one. And the angles of the corner of her mouth taper off differently from how you've drawn them.

You also have the sides of her face coming inwards towards her forehead, which is not happening in the reference.

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>>2930229

>>2930239
This clearly isn't traced. And even if - just for the sake of learning sometimes tracing isn't wrong.

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Hey guys. I did some drawing studies with "Keys to Drawing" and at one point Dodson suggested to copy a master piece.
Since I didn't like all the master pieces he suggested at all I decided to pick one myself.
I came up with pic related and although I have no experience at all with painting I decided to just give it a go since I really like the style.

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>>2930272
So I just started to paint yesterday and spend some time with it and actually really enjoyed the process. Trying out new colors, figuring out how colors work etc.

This is what I have up till now.
I kinda like how it turned out but honestly I tried to copy the style in the original work.
Since I am a total noob at painting I don't know how I could fix my approach to look like the original.
Can someone help me on this one?
Ignore the hair and the clothing.

And while I'm at it: I can't figure out at all how to do the hair. Any advice?

>>2930275
Why does my painting look so fucking smooth?
How can I get it to look more like the original?

>>2930283
don't use airbrushes, think about edges.

>>2930286
but airbrushes look like the perfect tools for shading/values.
how else can I do the shading/values?

>>2930291
With a rather normal brush and blending. Blending blending blending. But keep your forms logically coloured.

Besides that you didn't pick the right colours and you drew too many hard shadows. So I also recommend looking up some tutorials how shading works, how light bounces of objects, where a dark shadow is cast abd where reflected light illuminates certain spots.

If you are new to digital painting also look up some tutorials on blending.

I would proved some examples but I'm riding the bus and my means and data coverage are kinda limited.

>>2930291
there is no other way to get VERY smooth values. air brush is the only way otherwise you would have to spend countless hours trying to render with hard brushes.

>>2930304
>1% opacity and flow with hard round brush
Get on my level

>>2930252
Thanks a lot! I often wonder why I just don't see those mistakes, is it just lack of training in observation? Anyway, I will see what I can do about those points.

>>2930255
That makes sense, I guess erasing the current lines (until they're only faintly visible) should help out in combination with that technique.

Any advice on where to start with understanding properties of light/shading?

>>2930303
blending in digital is not the same at all as blending in traditional. stop fucking telling nooblets to blend its too fucking vague. The brush systems for almost any software ou there is exactly the same. Some names things differently some have minor changes to them. The basics are still the same. you are either going to be painting with no pen pressure or pen pressure. Opacity or flow they both do completely different things. one changes the transparency the other does not. Thats the basic set up with that brush system. The other brush system that photoshop and others have are specifically designed for blending. The mixer brush and the blending brushes in sai/clip studio. those are difficult to master because you CANT use one layer to paint. sai and clip studios blending brushes are designed to work with alpha channels because of the dilution effect they have.

TLDR dont blend.

>>2930305
gl i bet it looks like shit

>>2930308
http://fav.me/d2dwqgc
http://fav.me/d2dwqgc
http://fav.me/d19rbok

The most most very most basic. Sorry only have these old DA tutorials at gabd right now - hope they still help.

>>2930317
Thanks for the addition but " don't blend at all" also seems to be a broad statement. Do you have an example picture?

>>2930321
i say dont blend because its a lot more complicated than people think. you need to keep it simple and wait until you earn enough experience bro fa m

and no where did i say to not blend at all. just dont blend specifically at noobs. dont blend.

>>2930275
Dont use pure black for the shadows; this is a common mistake for beginners. Notice in the original piece that the shadows have a hint if red in it. This is true for virtually all colored pieces out there.

>>2930320
Thanks, the skin one in particular was nice. More specifically I'm confused on how light from a primary and/or ambient source(s) will illuminate an object with complex textures. How does light behave on the surface of an object when it's hitting a windowpane or a twisted leaf, if I'm not using a reference how would I be able to discern which segments of hair would be highlighted and how can I create that effect using pencil and paper.

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>>2930320
Noice tutorials.
the aothor tho
HAHAHAHA
reminds me of drawabox

>>2930344
I just realized
>Self portrait
AHAHAHAHA
even better
with a reference and still ends up looking like that.

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I have been doing art again for about 1.5 year, but I'm still stuck in gesturing and anatomy . ANY suggestions on the path would help.

>>2930347
Well it depends.
What would you like to tackle?.
Realistic?, from imagination?, coloring/rendering?. wut.

>>2930342
Until you can answer these questions without references you should use references. It's too complicated to write about it - so let's ask Proko https://youtu.be/V3WmrWUEIJo

I would like to be able to draw from imagination with great coloring and good fundamentals .

>>2930326
Oh sorry about that than.

>>2930354
basically all the pack?.
Just read the link in the sticky thread.

>>2930356
OK thx

>>2930352
thx bb

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Ok; here's what I did today. I've started to push through the other shapes in the human, gestural and anatomical

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Critique please

>>2930372
First, stop drawing in a coal mine.

Second, you should work on ONE thing at a time. Practice the dicks out of it, and then post your updates. That's the best way we can help you.

Third, when you concentrate everything into one image, it makes it really hard for people with smaller screens to look and see what's actually there. Try one or two at a time, bb.

>>2930375
Ok bodie base
those faces tho jeeses

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>>2930272
>>2930275
>>2930286
>>2930303
>>2930304
>>2930337

I have redone the face shadows/values and even tried to change the color a bit.

Turned out better than the first one. It's still not perfect, but I think I am getting where I want.

I tried to avoid air brushes completely and did basically everything in watercolor brushes since many youtube speedpaints seem to use them.

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test

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Is this a good way of constructing heads?

>>2930409
no

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>>2930409

>>2930229
Hey good job anon. That's much better. It looks like her now.

Perhaps the eyes aren't as fierce and the cheekbones don't have their shading yet. Her face is also slightly wider than how you drew it.

As for the hair, since it's wavy, look for the curved shapes. The light is usually on the top of the curves. So shade the ends of the curves and not the middle. Like for the bangs, you would shade the tips and the roots and leave the middle portion light.

>>2930187
Where exactly do you put the dick/vagina when you draw a pelvis shit's confusing.

>>2930410
whats the good way?

>>2930450
the way that looks like a real head

>>2930455
Thank you for that fabulous great advice

>>2930189
I know, I'm sick and this was the best(symbol) I could turn out. Keep going or try something else?

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>>2930457
here this is better, it's based on loomis

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>>2930187
This is the best(symbol) I could churn out despite being sick. Should I do boxes or just keep drawing from life?

>>2930478
Boxes are a meme. Drawing from life however is not.

>>2930478
you are getting there.

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>>2930188

stop posting naked dudes all the time

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>>2930521
Don't like drawing naked men? You will never make it.

>>2930538
Naked traps count r-right?

>>2930540
no

>>2930549
D:

>>2930521
You don't like naked dudes what are you fucking gay

Which boards drawthreads are the most beginner friendly?

>>2930590
any board that isn't /ic/

>>2930590
lol probably /x/

>>2930610
I didn't even know x had a thread.

>>2930605
Thanks anon...

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>>2930189

>>2930372
Let's see...
Profile view on the bottom right sheet has no flaws at all. Like you meintioned, the front view has a cranium a bit too wide (but it has proper height), which makes him an alien, and the 3/4 guy's nose is too short. There are also some issues with his cranium and jaw.
The sheet above it, what I immediately notice is that your guy's neck is placed too far to the right (relative to him). Bring it closer to his left shoulder (which probably would make his shoulders too narrow) or make the right half of the torso wider.

Going to the left, I have no idea what those things resembling both USB cards and toilet seats are. 3/4 heads aren't horrid, but all of them have some errors. The top one's ear is too far back and his cranium seems disproportionally massive for the head's height. The right guy has good head outlines, but his face is meh. The final guy on this sheet is incomplete and his mouth is mislocated, otherwise I'd definitely say he's the best of those three.

The sheet at the upper left corner. The corner guy has the best neck of them all, but the back of his head isn't curved enough, meaning the cranium ends too far up. Others are screwed, but the guy with the torso seems ok... but there's something uncanny about him, not sure what.

Finally, if you want to draw torsos, you'd have to publish the result in a bigger scale or nobody would be able to tell anything.

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I really have to stop posting in dead threads

anyone else come to the beginner thread bc of how cute beginners are? :)

>>2930756
ara?

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>>2930229
>>2930231
>>2930233
>>2930235
>>2930478
>these are supposed to be beginnners

>>2930372
I feel like your style is very messy and it masks a lot of the mistakes in your drawings. Also, the drawings being as tiny as they are, leaves plenty of room for smudging and guesswork, which again masks any possible mistakes you can see and correct.

It's hard to see any clear indication of forms, where you're getting the proportions and anatomy right or wrong, particularly with the faces.

You should try to draw large and neatly. Really clean up your edges so that you can zoom in to all aspects of your work.

Otherwise, the haziness of your style will just make it difficult for you continue refining the precision of your drawings.

>>2930790
wow you must be awful lol

>>2930790
your level of standard will dramatically increase

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>>2930789

>>2930495
Okay so not a bad attempt. The rendering is clean and the pose is looking okay. There are some issues with symbol drawing as well as missing shadows. But the biggest issue is that the figure looks extremely flat. It looks like you didn't think about the 3d form and just copied shade by shade.

Notice how the shading of the muscles don't show volume. They appear flat kindof like tattoos. They don't show the curvature, depth, or the plane changes of the surface of the skin. There is a lot of guessing with how you drew the shadows. It looks like you're unsure of what the shadows are for and where to place them.

Your 2d copying skills are getting there, so now it's time for you to move on to drawing in 3d with light/shadow and form studies.

>>2930423
neat

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>>2930792
>>2930793
the taylor swift image is how i imagined my endgoal a few years down the line, i literally can't see any flaws in it

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>>2930789
This image is for you, anon. You're still learning to draw what you see. Just keep practicing the way you are and you'll improve.

>>2930810
I see this posted all the time, and while I have used this method and can see how it works for the specific piece that you're working on, I don't see how it would help you with a picture that isn't flipped. Wouldn't you have to flip every single picture to achieve the same effect?

>>2930805
I understand what you mean, especially with the shadows. You're correct in saying I don't necessarily know what they're for, I was just trying to copy them to the best of my ability. Once I get into anatomy I think I will begin to understand that a bit more.

This was an exercise in gesture (I had just watched proko's video on it) and I just ended up rolling with the whole thing as best I could. I'm currently working through Keys right now, and still have issues as to how faces (among other things) work.

You're also right about the "tattoo" effect, I had the same thoughts as I was making them.

Right now I'm disciplining myself into forming the habit of drawing everyday, and "not a bad attempt" is more than enough to keep me motivated, thank you for the advice anon

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>tfw you're still bad

>>2930810
the thing with that is they show suchj an exreme version of symbol drawing that i makes it seem that your drawing isnt as bad so you think its not symbol

>>2930811
The point isn't just about flipping the image. It's about the message of learning to see and draw shapes as they appear rather than drawing symbols. It's not an effect to achieve. It's a skill that you have to learn to do on your own if you want to draw.

Like the image says, when drawing the face, you're not really drawing each individual feature the way your brain thinks. You're actually drawing shapes in gradations of light and dark values. The appearance of the face then is just an illusion created by the shapes.

The trick to drawing something well is to learn how to not depend on symbols and learn to see the underlying shapes and copying them. An easy demonstration of this idea is to flip the image. Once you get what it's showing you, then you should be able to do it on your own without flipping.

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>>2930187
How do I imagine values?

>>2930857
Analyze illuminated objects IRL. Find out where the darkest point, the light point, and the terminator are located, depending on the light sources and the object's shape. Find out how different kinds of light sources illuminate objects differently. It's kind of easy to learn convincing shading without any guides if you are analytical.

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This is a tiny drawing I did from my imagination. I forgot that people have eyebrows. Please critique, I am beginner.

>>2930873
Why are you in the beginner thread? This is seriously amazing. Just add the eyebrows and frame that shit.

>>2930824
>tfw just realized been doing much better and not at 0 like anon
Is this the power of drawing?

>>2930880
Its great i love you're style

>>2930873
How are you so good?

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>>2930668
why didn't I get any critiques

>>2930897
Maybe you should post something for us to critique instead of simpson

>>2930897
I wanna suck his cock

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drew this last night

>>2930899
>>2930668

>>2930900
same

>>2930668
sticky

>>2930907
die cunt

>>2930910
sticky

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someone rip this apart for me

>>2930923
this is actually... not that bad. quite flat tho, try studying the planes of the face and also light etc. to give it more life. the difference between detailed portraits and flat portraits are usually to do with planes, kind of like polygons IRL. once you know this and have a definitive light source bob is your uncle

>>2930942
alright ill study up on planes thank you!

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At last, a new drawing.

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welp

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So I was doing some sketches and noticed just how bad the form/proportions are in them. The models to the right are the correct proportions for reference. Can anyone give me some advice on something I'm doing wrong and how to correct course? I've gotten used to using 3d posing models as a crutch but more often than not the poses come out stiff and lifeless, and thats a pretty shitty practice I've been trying to quite anyway.

Also, this is a pretty scaled down image from when I was drawing, I'm not a regular here but I vaguely remember a general rule about image sizes not being too big. If this is too big or too small let me know.

Give me some nice mushroom pictures to draw.

>>2930791
Ok, I'll do that, cheers! (Crud; what am I going to do)
>>2930745
Blessings dailycrit; thank you once again for an exhaustive critique
>>2930391
It's a bit hard to stop drawing in a coal mine when you're drawing with graphite. I instinctively move my hand over areas when drawing and also rub my face. One thing I can definitely do for you, though, is post less volume or biggah

>>2930975
Fuck, and here I was, thinking that you had put your act together at last and stopped doing this shit. Kill yourself, pwetty pwease.

>>2930199
That's good, your actual talent hasn't changed, you're just seeing all the shit that needs to be improved. Its the next step towards gitting gud.

I love cat_alien_face-kun.

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Tried blending types first time ever.

>>2930349

imagination

>>2930976
nice job E

>>2931067
How are you so good?

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I've been practicing my gestures like an anon suggested I do, thoughts ?

>>2931116
This meme should die.

>>2931117
Try disregarding the limb separations in your head completely.
Just draw the flowing lines that way you'll get the feel down, and when you draw the actual limbs over them, they won't feel stiff.

>>2931123
Thanks anon. I appreciate it.

>>2930901
Looks good
>>2930668
Your feet look really good, the leg though, on the left looks a bit heavy.

>>2930901
Nice, I really love the varying greens

how do I draw expressions? all i got is emotionless 2d figures

>>2931248
halp

>>2930975
are you trying something new? this looks really better in some way

>>2931248
Post something you have made and we can help you.

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>>2930190

>>2931263
What made you decide to use lined paper for your attempt?

>>2931248
lewmiss

>>2931266
Convenience

>>2931267
lewdmiss

>>2931248
Loomis, fun with pencil.

>>2931270
isn't fun with pencil ment for children though?

>>2931273
lol no

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Hair looks so simple to draw, but when it actually comes to drawing it, it's fucking impossible
ufdfujcuFUFUCKFUUUUUCK

I have a confession to make. You know how people say pick an artist you like and copy their techniques? I learned how to "draw" by copying Yoshihiro Takahashi. All I know how to draw is stupid dogs with weird anatomy. Anything else just looks horrible and I'm afraid to branch out.

>>2931284
Rover?

>>2931284
Rover?

>>2931285
>>2931286
unless this is about that green text story, I have idea what you're talking about.

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Rover had a rough life :(

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>>2931262
see pic, i stopped halfway because it looked too boring. pretty much all my drawings have a neutral face

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>have the rest of the day off and the entire weekend to practice drawing and other hobbies
Heh... I knew being a friendless loser would finally pay off.

I'm so lonely.

>>2931303
you're not alone if you draw a couple of cute animegirls :^)

>>2931303
get /ic/ friends, there are some nice people here, hidden behind the veil of antagonism

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year of the ram

>>2931319
you may want to consider working from a more finished drawing, there are anatomical/perspective issues here. not too serious ones really, but at your level of experience it may be more productive to make sure those are correct early on so you can focus on the painting more easily. if you don't like to work like that, that's fine, but you'll have to practice more and be very critical of your own work, so as to develop your eye enough to 'guess right' as you paint. it's a much more long winded and exhausting way of learning how to art.

as to the painting, you have essentially the right idea, but are let down mainly in the values you are using, and the way you are using strokes, again these things will develop with time, but you should be working from life, still life mainly, and working very carefully and slllowwly, if (ironically) you want to improve quickly.

aside from these technical quibbles the image is engaging, the girl is cute, she seems alive and not doll-like or anything like that, and the lips are especially well rendered. keep it up.

>>2931335
Thank you anon! I'll keep all these in mind.

Is anyone else completely unable to imitate a line? I keep trying to draw eyes but I can't get the slope of the top right.

practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practicepractice practicepracticepracticepractprapcpracpracticeiticepraceptractpracitepracticepraictpratcaprapractice

>>2931356
No

>>2931354
zoom in and draw as focused as possible
if you got a proper line, then duplicate that line into a new layer, put it thrrough some gausian blur and erase a bit on the sides till it looks alright. if the line has become too dark because you duplicated it turn down the opacity on the original a bit. this is how i do it when i cant seem to draw lines that well, but i think it might be better to just practice more.

>>2931361
I think I'll do the second one.

Any website to grab references from that have more complex poses?

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>draw for more than 9years now
>everyone in the beginnerthread is still better than me

>>2931370
Are you kidding me? Post your work.

>finally fall for the draw upside down meme
>work nearly doubles in quality
holy shit, why didnt i try this before. everyone should do this

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>>2931370
>draw every now and then for more than 9years now without studying the basics or anatomy in my life
>everyone in the beginnerthread is still better than me

You left out some parts, I more or less fell for the same "dude just practice lmao" mee but I've improved more in the last few months with study than I have in at least 7 years.

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First try at watercolors..it's my Sim from the Sims 3. Blease critique.

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Is it possible to make it as an mspaint artist?

>>2931391
Probably not but why do you use it anyway?

There are better free alternatives out there.

>>2931391
it is, drawing with mspaint improves your drawing skill better than with convenient software but if you want to try something else, as this anon said >>2931394 try Krita, its extremely similar to Photoshop but 100% free

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>>2931319

Hey, sorry if I whored her up too much but the main point I want to get to you is to watch the colours you're using, especially in her skin and horns. The shadows you have right now on her face are a bit too harsh and desaturated, making it look muddy, and you're applying warmer tones randomly on her face. When it comes to black hair, try subtly liven it up with cooler colours, this helps make the subjects skin look warmer in contrast and is a bit more interesting than jet black, which also should not be used on the face generally as eyebrows aren't completely opaque. As for the horns, I doubt I'm accurate but you should vary the colours much more, because right now it looks garish compared to her black hair, and also your strokes should try follow the form of the horn to give a better sense of its shape.

>>2931405
fuckk off, i never asked you to redraw my original character, and even drawing it better

>>2931385
Not the other guy, but same.

>>2931409
>that attitude
redraws are one of the most useful things you can get. you're ngmi if you cant accept critique

>>2931409
>bwaaaah, mommy, someone is better then me, can I have some tendies pleeeease

>>2930873
>I forgot that people have eyebrows

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>>2930395
Thanks, I'm still having a hard time with faces

>>2930375
Here's another. This time I took the 1 hour class.
Please critique

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Why do my girls look so fucking ugly?? I just want to draw a pretty grill

>>2931430
learn how to draw faces properly

>>2931260
lol it all looks the same

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Just started trying to draw realastic, is this still symbol drawing? How do I get better?

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I feel like i could benefit from a tablet.

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>>2931435

>>2931436
I feel like you could benefit from better taste as well.

Is there a way to automatically render a drawing in photoshop that you have already coloured like for example how sweetfx can be used in games?

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Here's my daily post. It was rather fun to do the figures, but they took longer. Tomorrow would be a good day to create that image I've been meaning to do in a while, therefore we'll see how that goes

The lineart old man was referenced; I'm quite happy to share it with you if you want to draw it. Otherwise: see you tomorrow /ic/; I've got to start work on this so I can allow 2 days

>>2931488
try to draw without too much chicken scratch, also is that all you did today?

>>2931501
Yes

>>2931513
draw more, make sure you fill up atleast 10 pages daily. 1 page isn't enough, unless you want to become a good artist in 10 years

>>2931409
>a chick with horns
>muh OC
dont worry anon you can do better

>>2931522
Right

>>2931430
because the face construction method is all messed up, got to the roots, draw just the construction lines see where you're going wrong

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Did a front view to kind of remind me where the features are placed. I also try to self-critique every drawing I make after finishing it but my perception isn't as good as the more experienced people on this board

>>2931567
If you see the errors, why not draw it again?

>>2931569
I do that, this is the third iteration of the front view i've done tonight I'm just wondering if there are some obvious mistakes that I'm missing

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Any critique would be welcome, so please give me some advice if possible
Sorry for it being sideways btw

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Drawings from photo references. How's it look?

>>2931578
boobs look weird

>>2931593
same I wish I could touch some

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I didn't capture the likeness very well.

>>2931435

Yes it is symbol drawing, but your lines are nice and clean so you have a great start.

You are drawing each part, like, eye, other eye, mouth. What you need to do is draw the values and lines that make up those parts, without trying to draw what you think those parts are. You draw what you literally see. Your brain is playing a telephone game in the middle between your eyes and your hand, putting In it's ideas of what it thinks these parts should look like before your hand starts drawing. Your brain doesn't have preconceived notions of abstract lines and forms, so you draw those more accurately. By drawing all the parts correctly, it fits together like a nice puzzle.

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>tfw always too tired to practice

>>2931608

I thought you drew the eyes really fucky, but then I saw the reference and his eyes are pretty damn fucky.

>>2931613
Why? What is your day like?

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>>2931621
>wake up
>browse 4chan
>have easy made sandwich
>pee
>watch my weekly anime
>eat precooked dinner or order pizza
>browse some more 4chan
>sleep for 10+ hours
im always tired sadly and don't have enegy to put effort into anything, is this whats depression is called?

>>2931625

It's called poor diet and lack of cardiovascular exercise

Learn to cook healthy meals and buy a cheap electric treadmill

>>2931625
Yes, go see some sort of an therapist, as an ex-depressed I really recommend it.
Also, start eating more healthy, it might sound like a huge chore, but it really helps a shitton.

>>2931409
weird attitude.

one time someone way better than me redrew one of my OCs without me asking and I was so grateful and so blown away by it that I thought about it for days. I still look at their version from time to time as inspiration.

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how the FUCK do I stop chicken scratching??? I want clean results but I can never get my lines right on the first try

>>2931657
forgot to say I'm aware that the pic is shit. recent attempt on drawing a head from imagination

>>2931629
At this rate it might do him better to spend thirty minutes walking outside than an hour on a treadmill.

Eating right and exercising is honestly very useful. I fell into the same hole. Go outside for some fresh air and new sights. It makes a difference.

>>2931657
>recent attempt on drawing a head from imagination
stop that shit

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>>2931678
How else do you get better for drawing from imagination?

>>2931657
just draw longer lines, you are allowed to repeat lines if you don't like them, just not do lots of little ones.

>>2931687
You need to master your tools first.

>>2931690
a master like proko can't even draw from imagination, i dont think your logic works.

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>>2931657
Watch "Dynamic Sketching 1 with Peter Han". Practice it every single day at least 7 pages. You'll definitely get good lines.

>>2931692
Look, I don't really care what Proko can and can't do.
You need to learn how to handle a pencil if you're lines are so shit, this has not much to do with drawing from life or imagination.

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>>2931117
Anyone have any more comments ? Also, I've been practicing lighting.

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>Want to work in the US in entertainment art because it's the most stable job you can get as an artist
>have no real way of getting into the US without a work visa, no way I can get a citizenship
>only real chance of getting a visa is going back to college for 4 years, or working for 12 fucking years

I have Sheridan College near me, but I'm not interested in animation. Their illustration program seems okay, I'm really torn whether to go or not.

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>>2931405
Thank you so much for this! This is actually not the first time someone did a really fantastic paintover of one of my stuff. I can't thank you enough. But yeah, only recently have I been getting into rendering and this is helpful (my still life is actually the OP right now) Cheers again!

Also I don't know why >>2931409 pretended to be me, probs some autist who's mad that he can't draw well or what? idk actually

>>2931707
nice save

>>2931707
Are you juniper in last artist standing? I knew something was up kek

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>>2931707
Smooth recovery.

>>2930193
this guy is an irl loomis head

>>2930423
Well done, lad/lass

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>>2931703
>tfw never gonna make it

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>>2931773
fuck why does it always get posted sideways

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>>2931488
The portrait looks bretty good. I assume you copied it from a reference? Like I said before, your copying skills are good, and that's why you need to apply them to your benefit. Draw the model, then try to copy your drawing, then try to modify the face to some extent, and so on.
I don't think there's anything to discuss about the stylized... uh... being that heavily reminds me of a certain Soviet cartoon, pic related.
As for the full body, well, humans don't have a neck that's as long as their head. The top of his head seems too flat too. His legs resemble walking pods or chicken feet, adding to the uncanny image. And men don't usually have such pronounced hips. It is women who have their hips protruding from the sides of their body.

>>2931777
alright i give up, another thing i can't do right

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critique and advice pls, im trying my best here but can't get it to work

>>2931810
kpop is gay

>>2931817
but im a girl

>>2931810
>>2931822
>this good
>a girl
Of course, it all makes sense.

>>2931822
It's still gay.

>>2931822
Please live in London I'm so lonely ;_;

>>2931822
why do girls like kpop guys when they all have little dicks like you know that right?

>>2931830
and black guys have huge dicks?

>>2931831
my friend has a big dick that kinda curves right like he could literally fuck around the corner of a building

I've seen it

>>2931830
i never got why koreans have such small penises
like, i've seen so many 2-3 inch erected koreans
biggest one was probably 4 to 5 inches.
i guess this is why korean women are starting to date white men or other asian men with bigger dongs

>>2931833
post their dick

>>2931810
sticky

>>2931625
would recommend drinking more water. Was feeling tired a lot, but when I drank more water than i usually do the tiredness slowly went away.

>>2930818
>>2930495

Here's some more from today. On the portrait section of Keys. I know it's not really about rendering super neat, but I just got into the 2nd and 3rd and couldn't help myself

Hair baffles me right now, excuse the lack thereof

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>>2931878
Damn it

>tfw no cheap Photoshop/Illustrator plan from adobe

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More comic book copying

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BOPE girl

>>2931959
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead (I recommend ShareX)

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

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i need refrence for this exreice

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>>2931971
and this

>>2930255
What book is this from?

>>2931996
You know how I know you suck? It's because you don't listen to /ic/. It's KtD.

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Been practicing on my new tablet. What do you think?

>>2932020
I think you need to do value studies.

>>2932020
sticky

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I FINALLY finished Hampton's Design (pic) and Invention book, where he teaches the figure and some anatomy, and now I feel like I kinda understand the shape of the body, and I feel like I can do at around 30% of the body by myself.

Where do I go from here? I can clearly tell that I can keep improving, so can anyone recomend another curse but for not-absolute-begginers? I've heard Hogarth, Vilppu, Loomis etc. Or maybe should I just grind a bunch of bodies and get good from there? Please help, I'm lost.

>>2932056
Now, you re-read the book and practice again. I'm 100% serious too.

>>2932058
Really? How substantial would be the improvement if I re-read it? I mean I can see why it would be helpfull but I wonder if it really is better to read it again instead of moving to something else.

>>2932056
Dude, I'm only a little way into the book. I read then I practice and then I reread.

>>2931825
not sure if its sarcasm but im not good, i only started drawing like 3 months ago
thought the beginner thread was for critique and advice but all you people can do is attack others whatevs

>>2932069
I can't see the future anon, but books are meant to be re-read countless times if you plan to internalize the information. If you aren't perfect now, you'll be closer the next time around.

>>2932074
Fuck

I'll give it a shot, I do remember being pretty confused several times while reading it.

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>>2931810
Primarily, your need to push your values; everything you have is too light. The measurements for the face's width, the nostrils, and the hand are also off enough to notice. I did a quick paintover for you.

>>2930187
is there a recommended order for learning human anatomy?

>>2932104
Hampton.

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Is this good advice?

>>2932108
It is. Some people just weren't meant to make it.

>>2932108
someone sliced off her nose

>>2932108
you aren't ever going to be a good artist if you have something better to do than draw
forcing yourself to practice for 30 minutes every day doesnt cut it

>>2932081
Wow thanks, you're drawing looks soo much better (Although the hand looks wrong haha). What do you recommend on pushing values? Because I normally dont draw black/white stuff, I have watched some videos where people do black and white and then throw a gradient map on it, do you mean that on how I should be pushing values?

Literally all my coloured drawings are suffering from values and I can't seem to do better even though I am practicing every single day.

And I noticed that some things looked off about the face, not about the hand though, been focused too much on the face the past 4hours~ and im absolutely beat, I won't edit anything now on this, it was a study anyway.

I get the strong impression that careful neat lines are the only way here but the sticky recommends Keys wherein he says lots of line restating is aiight.
Which is it? Personally im such a beginner that my main goal right now is just to get used to drawing for a minimum amount of time every day. The clean line school is pretty overwhelming for me as a beginner and makes me not want to draw. Can I start messy and move on to clean when I'm comfortable or am I going down a bad path that wont get me anywhere?

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sent here from /i/
any blatant errors besides her fucked up left arm and right hand? realized way later that i drew her arm the way i would from a front angle even though i meant it to be offset
pls no bully

>>2932145
lew mees

>>2932145
That face is messed up.

>>2932145
Do you have any fundamentals?

>>2931959
don't like the thickness of the lineart.

>>2932145
Well done, moot, I see you have improved.

>>2932148
you mean, like a pencil?

>>2932171
I mean if you have done a book or course on figure drawing. Or traditional drawing. Or any at all.

>>2932178
?

>>2932181
So you didnt

>>2932148
>>2932178
no, i haven't done much in terms of hardcore textbooks on anatomy or shit
also, im actually the asuka poster by the way

>>2932200
read the sticky then

>>2931429
can some anon give a critique

I change art programs so often that it's stupid. I prefer Photoshop but i'm not always able to use it because I'm a lazy poorfag. Is there anything similar that I can convert Photoshop brushes to? I usually use Sai but I hear good things about CSP and Kirita

>>2932241
>changing art programs often
>/beg/
I get it now.

>>2931429
Shadows are looking nice.

>>2931429
>>2932216
Reference or imagination

>>2932265
reference, took the 1 hour class from line-of-action.com

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>>2932081
Disregard my post >>2932128
I couldn't leave the drawing alone so I kept working on the values. Think I finally got it.
Hopefully I can make better use of values when I am drawing without reference.

>>2932274
sticky

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>>2930191

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Got my huion 420, my first digital drawing ever

>>2932320
That's some cool shit.

>>2932321
Thank you

>>2932312
>>2932320
sticky

>>2932325
im gonna make you sticky you little slut

Should I buy a pair of fingerless gloves? Will they make me a better artist?

>>2932359
no type of hardware or software will make up for a lack of ingrained skill

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This is an arcade stick art i'm currently working on, any ideas for a background? I just need some advice on what to have in the background.

>>2932372
Try pink and see how it comes out.

>>2932372
A wall of photorealistic vaginas

>>2932379
>>2932379
>>2932379

>>2932379
>>2932379
>>2932379

>>2932379
>>2932379
>>2932379

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halp

>>2931779
Cool! Ok; I think I will look more into the design of the person beforehand, so that the person doesn't look like a chicken

>>2932272
You suck at making faces mane haha

Work on that

Sketching faces

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Anyone got some good resources for understanding perspective for retards like me?

>>2932329
i diggidy dare you

>>2932022
Thank you

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>>2930231
>>2930233
>>2930235
>>2930478
>beginner art
I am absolutely horrible. Nothing I could do will EVER compare to anything like this.