/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

>>2901827
Why is he about to punch the sky?

>>2901817
>>2901818
>>2901820
>>2901821
>>2901824
How do you post so rapidly? I seem to be restricted to one post per minute.

>>2901834
4chan pass (as i am a Good Goy)

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heads, feedback appreciated

>>2901862
The skulls are simply so-so, but those faces and heads on the first two sheets look extremely fugly. Two of your subjects also suffer from hydrocephalia, and two or three suffer from the opposite, meaning they have little skull. If you are to study heads and skulls to understand their form, it's better to draw the skulls in a side view first. The bigger and more detailed they are, the better.

>>2901881
>> they have little skull
To make this sound less weird, let's add this:
> have little skull to hold their brain

>>2901862
guy above me what he said.

also idk if thisd help you but i had a phobia of drawing faces. Actually, i was scared of peoples faces irl, i couldnt look people in the eye and even if i did i was panicking.

what helped me get over it is to approach it not by capturing likeness, that comes after (i think), but to reduce the face and head to its forms. you cant be too careful starting out, it will choke you and result in sad cringey drawings, just as sad and cringey as i was trying to socialize.

>>2901890
awwww, im glad you got rid of your anxiety

>>2901881
So either drawing the skull to large or too small. Hm. alright, I will try the side view, thank you.

>>2901890
haha yeah I am getting caught up in capturing likeness at the moment, I will keep that in mind.

I'm actually trying to be more general and I'm still getting used to memorizing the forms, so I exaggerate them. But like you say, maybe I should try to reduce them more to streamline my understanding.

Anyway, I'll continue to practice these. Thanks for the feedback!

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Help me be good

>>2901914
>this good at photography
>draws instead

>>2901914
girl??

>All I wanted to do was draw cute anime girls doing cute things
>I have to study anatomy, perspective, gestures, boxes/circles, references, shadows, tones for more than 10+years putting 16 hrs in a day
>mfw

>>2901927
You're living a delusion, anon. Cute anime girls are not just what's on the paper. It's what's in the heart, anon. As long as you put your best effort into drawing, then you already doing good. That's all it takes. Do your best and breathe life into those cute anime girls.

>>2901922
Yeah how's you know?

>>2901916
My talents are multifaceted;)

>>2901914
>pen
>another pen
>more pencils on the side
>eraser
>two sided drawing
>another drawing
>coffee
>table
>all in one shot
What kind of crazy image you trying to pull here? Is this called composition? Is it on purpose?

>>2901936
u draw like a girl

>>2901914
you already posted this a bunch of threads ago didn't you

>>2901952
Posted it in a beginner thread and got no replies so I posted here trying to get crits

>>2901914
Finish your drawings for one.

Draw more.

You look like you gave up on each one and just started hopping around.

Give the sticky a read.

>>2901954
maybe try scanning things or at least taking pictures of full or individual pieces instead of giving us an artfully composted instagram worthy picture of your workspace with a few visible doodles

>>2901914
gotta focus and study one subject matter a time instead of going from doodle to doodle if you wanna git gud.

>>2901927
>10+years putting 16 hrs in a day
nah, no way. don't even think like that anon or else you'll weigh yourself down with all that time.

you can get relatively decent and functional as an artist in a year with 3 hrs of practice each day.

>>2901981
>3hrs a day and 1 year
did that work for you? what did you practice

>>2901994
It doesn't work like that, anon. Time and what I practice doesn't matter. It's what you do. All the things you listed is what you should be doing even if it's only 5 minutes. Maybe even a minute doodle. 30 seconds.

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Is there anyone out here also using Medibang Paint? Medibang is the only program I've tried that does not lag my computer to hell, but it's for manga and stuff so blending is very hard. I'm using the wet watercolor brush for this. Blending tips are much appreciated. Also please tear me apart for symbol drawing.

>>2902034
get a better videocard, it helped me alot with digital drawing

>>2901914
Something about this makes me mad. I can't put seem to put my finger on it.

>>2902098
You're jealous.

I drew most of these sketches yesterday, but the bottom-left one I just did. All with 0.7 mm mechanical pencil (HB) on A4 cartridge paper. Didn't clean that many of my construction lines to save time.

Any advice for improvement?

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>>2902110
Shit, I didn't include the image. Here it is.

>>2902113
why are you in the beginner thread

>>2902113
omgosh so cute x33, blooggg??

>>2902102
All I'm jealous of is that cup sleeve. Everything else: I have or I consider shit.

>>2902125
The drawings aren't that bad if you actually look at them and look past the insta snapshit stuff. The one with the kid is cool

Is copying shit upside down good practice? Like, right now I just tried to sketch the guy on this box upside down, and earlier I did the chick on the front of drawing with the right side of the brain. Should I keep doing this?

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Holy fuck why do I keep forgetting pics?

>>2902133
Yeah

>>2902132
>>2902133
Whenever I do portrait commissions for people, I always flip the reference photo upside down. It's good to do so because it prevents you from guessing where shit goes so you follow your reference.

>>2902139
>I always flip the reference photo upside down.
thats cheating

>>2902171
Still making money and they're happy with the portraits
>I'd rather cheat than be broke and dying

>>2902174
in the eyes of god, a dollar earned honestly is greater than a million dollars earned through deceit.

do i really have to spend hours drawing floating boxes to get good at drawing?

>>2902176
>be born talentless while chad stacey and tyrone get it all in life
>still believe god somehow exists
ya sure anon

>>2902180
it will get you good faster if you actually do it. however it would probably be better to draw what you enjoy for two hours a day than to draw boxes for 15 minutes and then play more video games

>>2902188
thanks for responding. ill spend some time drawing boxes then if it really helps.

what should i do to get good?

perspective -> gesture -> anatomy???

>>2902176
They still want an exact copy of their pictures in charcoal medium so who am I to deny an exact copy? Drawing upside down gives me that exact copy. Is that cheating, anon?

>my stylized shit never sells
>pull the trigger

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What's wrong with it

>>2902184
Miracles don't come from nowhere, anon.

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>>2901930
>> tfw you try just that and draw your waifu's portrait, and it looks pretty to you but gets intensely shat on by almost everyone else who isn't Japanese
>> tfw you put most effort into the hair but get told it looks really bad
>> tfw you draw eyes in, like, 5 minutes and they're always the best part of the picture

I-it doesn't work like that, bro...

>>2902200
Some people are just jealous, anon. Don't worry about them. They'll tell you that you won't make it, they're just projecting their crab mentality onto you. They don't see what we see. They only see their own insecurities within your artwork. Don't mind them. Find the right people who understand what you're trying to do. The right people that will bring you fun and encourage you to go further. That is what will work.

>>2902198
Literally tumblr, ugliness and all.

>>2902209
Like my art?

>>2902213
Your style is shit and unattractive. You also need to read a book about character design.

>>2902217
Fuck you, im happy with my drawing. The fact that you seem to care only about insulting other people's art shows what kind of shallow person is under that skin of yours. Fucking idiot

>>2902221
It's ok, he deserves to poke fun at my drawing

I think it's autistic...

Why must I destroy the beauty in this world

>>2902221
>tumblr gets triggered
Do you really expect someone to blow sunshine and rainbows up your ass over low quality doodles?

>>2902221
>The fact that you seem to care only about insulting other people's art shows what kind of shallow person is under that skin of yours.
I'm sorry that I'm impure. Once you go black, you can't go back no matter what. Other people have destroyed me and with my lifeless husk, this is all I can resort to now. It sure would be nice to see the green grass on the other side, but that's just not possible, now is it?

>>2902234
I think you mean mine, right?

Keep going anon! You can do it!

>>2902221
Asks what's wrong with drawing
>implying asking for critique
>can't accept it

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Thots?

>>2902251
edgy but good quality

work on your hands

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Here's a self portrait

>>2902261
Thank you! I'll be sure to focus in on them more

>>2902113
rosianna rabbit is a great comic, you did a pretty good job at capturing her likeness

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studyin

>>2902270
How do you know what goes where? It's such an abstract shape for me...

>>2902263
ya look like josie from twin peaks. dunno what advice to give you as I think that actually looks pretty good, but yeah.

>>2902271
I'm not sure I know what you mean? These are from figure drawing reference photos, the models are well lit and the forms of their bodies are very visible.

>>2902274
thanks anon

>josie
hah yeah that's fair. I can see that.

>>2902204
Ignoring the likely sarcastic intent of your post, if I didn't mind them, I still wouldn't be able to draw a good face, a head that looks human, and proper hands. To some, having their arse torn to pieces hurts so much that they quit. They were never meant to make it. It is only true determinators who ever achieve mastery and reap success.

any comments on my autistic art?

>>2902221
>terrible low effort, low thought, low inspiration piece
>on a board that is specifically for the purpose of critique
>having that reaction
>being happy with that work

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>all this practice and im still shit

>>2902306
>tfw didn't practice at all today
>feel like shit

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>>2902306
>practice drawing faces 8hrs a day for 6weeks now
>tried everything from loomis to bridgman
>still draw crappy faces with symbol drawing
>mfw

>>2902308
Some of us were just born not to make it. It's alright.

>>2902309
I suck at drawing
Remember the Lapis drawing?

>>2902308
go use reference

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>>2901816
Critique me daddy

>>2902310
That was good though.

>>2902313
No, fuck you, don't even read the OP or the sticky.

>>2902314
How so?
The face sucks and the eyes, too.

>>2902317
Because you put effort into it.

>>2902318
Still, any advice?

The internet calls it cancer

It's sure no foot fetish, furry, terrible crossover, or inflation fetish, but I even have to agree it's cancer

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>>2902200

>>2902313
>> Illuminaughty
Gosh, that was HORRIBLE.
As for the picture, thighs look unproportionally thicc for the rest of the body. The legs themselves look strange. I think that bad foreshortening is to blame. Still, looks pretty good for this thread, but CARE TO RESIZE THE IMAGE AND TURN IT PROPERLY, YOU FUCKER.

>>2902319
Why does it matter if it's cancer or not?

Did you not draw it yourself?

>>2902325
I did...

>>2902313
Oh, opps, lol. It was fine before. Never post on 4 chan with a mobile device. Or you will get the replies of shammmeeee!!!! Nice shame replies btw. They almost hurt, almost. I'm the void of all emotions so ya... : ^^^)))))))

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meh robo-spider design

>>2902313
To bad I can't delete this so I can fix it. Oh well. I guess you guys can suffer from my accidental anarchy.

>>2902333
Did you use the draw through method for that anon?

>>2902337
yes, to get the legs in place for the opposite side I used the draw through method but it is by no means perfect in regard to perspective; I plan on doing a larger, more accurate representation of the concept maybe around this weekend

>>2902327
Then keep at it.

Only you can make your ideal a reality.

>>2902346
Any advice for my art?

>>2902351
How could I possibly give you advice without knowing what you're trying to do?

If anything read the sticky, you can't go wrong with that.

>tfw too afraid to draw humans because i dont want it to look shit

>>2902322
I think that's really good, anon

>>2902362
It will look like shit and you'll like it. Now get drawing and get good and show me how good you can be, anon.

>>2902354
I would like to learn how to draw faces

>>2902363
I, the anon who posted the original photo, concur. Even though some of the forms are a bit inaccurate, he still captured the image really well.

>>2902369
Then learn how to draw faces.

>>2902345
You must really like that concept to want to redraw it even larger. I like it too though, so looking forward to that. Good luck, anon!

>>2902363
>>2902372
thanks guys

>>2902308
How many times have you done the hand contour drawing exercise?

That's the only thing that kicks me out of symbol drawing long enough to understand the zoning out feeling.

Previously I had spent 12 years doing nothing but symbol drawing and not improving yet I still managed to get over it quite quickly with the hand exercise.

>Only draw loli girls doing lewd stuff
>Forgot to hide my sketchbook
>Go out to college
>Come back home
>Mom yells for me
>She found my sketchbook
>Im panicking at this point
>Literally called me a paedophile
>Explained to her that the characters I drew were all 18+ and I did for practice of my drawing skills
>She is fucking angry and has disgust all over her face
>Ends her speech with that I have to move out of the house by end of March
>Go back to my room
>Type this out on my phone as she turned off the internet in the house because she doesn't want me to use her utilities anymore
>When dad gets home shes gonna tell
>My dad is even worse, hes gonna call the cops on me
help

>>2902379
I guess not giving up and just trying everything until you hit the one right thing really does work. Good job. What are you drawing nowadays?

>>2902374
Thanks!

>>2902373
Ok

>>2902380
Drawing sexualized minors isn't illegal though

>>2902389
I live in Germany, its 100% illegal here
It never occured to me that my parents owuld find out I draw stuff like that since I always keep 2 different kind of sketchbooks and always hide my "18+" one from clear sight.
I think im going to prison, I want to run out of the house rn but I have no clue where to go, im literally in panicmode right now.
Hoping I can convince my dad somehow and temper my parents

>>2902391
Well, what was your major? Prison ain't so bad I hear, you'll even get time to draw once you're there.

>>2902391
Just join the 4th Reich

>>2902380
Had the same thing happen to me in high school except she tried her hardest to not embarrass me and even lied that I was good at drawing which made it a hundred times more embarrassing.

I threw them in the bin in front of her and cried in my room all day, my entire family knows because my mother is a gossip but they've all pretty much forgotten about it over time.

I only draw lewds digital and keep it hidden now.

>>2902391
go downstairs and have a sensible, mature conversation with your mother. explain to her why its ok. not saying anything at all is very much the wrong thing to do here.

>>2902380
>>Literally called me a paedophile

Well she's not wrong. You reap what you sow.

>>2902391
should have just been a furry, man

>>2902393
My major is civil engineering,im a social anxiety ridden outcast, no way prison is gonna be ok for me, im gonna be chewed out. also everyone will know that I drew loli girls, even though I am NOT a pedophile, I stand firmly against childporn on all fronts
>>2902395
This is my second worry, knowing that my entire family will know. I can already imagine that my aunts will hide their daughters from me.
>>2902397
What should I say? My parents are extremely conservative and religious...

>>2902401
just explain to them that its
1. only drawings
2. only practice
3. you are still a beginner so you dont currently have the skill to draw figures at different ages
4. show her lucky star and cite that the characters are 18. mention that visual style does not correlate with character age.
5. tell her to calm down and to think logically about the morality of the act of drawing something on paper. tell her not to make such drastic and emotionally driven decisions without sitting and thinking about it for a while.

and remember, she doesnt want to think her son is a pedo. if you deny it, she will want to believe it.

the important part is that you go and talk about it. it will determine your future.

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>>2902401
>I stand firmly against childporn on all fronts
>he said, notebook full of child porn

>>2902406
I think you missed the part in that anon's post where they're religious and God determines your future.

>>2902401
Man up and learn to accept the outcome of your idiocy. It's the way of life. Being dumb and negligent must have its consequences, or people will never mature and their work will never get done.

>>2902410
tell her that jesus was a jew, the only true spiritual path is asatruism and europe is their holy land.

>>2902411
This to be honest desu.

Man up and say you love loli.

It's the truth is it not?

Embrace it.

Embrace yourself.

That is the path to growing and becoming a much stronger person.

Other people may try to break you, but your abilities are real. Very much real.

>>2902415
>your abilities are real
this is /beg/

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>>2902380
Well, before you go to prison who were your loli waifus?

I'll draw them every now and then in your honor.

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Please critique my drawling, I am very happy with it.

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oh look it's my hand

>>2902422
This is really good, you're gonna make it.

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>>2902418
> tfw you see that lustful Kuroko again
>> tfw you remember your feelings when watching this series
>>> tfw you don't even like loli, but all these lewd kissing scenes made your heart beat faster when you watched them
O Suzumiya Haruhi, I pray to you,
Forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive those who trespass against us...
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from evil. Amen.

>>2902423
Thanks anon! I hope I do

>>2902263
stacks?

>>2902424
stay strong brother
for the tribe

>>2902401
>>2902391
>I live in Germany, its 100% illegal here

Unless you sold them or uploaded them online I doubt it's illegal to do drawings. If someone could go to jail for a 2 minute sketch that would be insane. And even if so chances are that it will be small punishment, perhaps a fine.

>>2902380
>>My dad is even worse, hes gonna call the cops on me

Are you certain that your dad is willing to make it public that he raised a pedophile and to jail his own legacy?

>>2902391
Post your work

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I am not a art

But I'm trying, I'm practically homeless so I'm using a phone camera. I have no idea how many jiggapixels this thing is.

>>2902458
Read the sticky

>>2902458
breddy gud

>>2902421
How are you so good?

>>2902471
Are you joking? I'm so insecure about my drawings. It's just colored pencil on printer paper.
On the off chance you meant to compliment me, I've been drawing since I was like 2.

>>2902471
How are you so funny?

>>2902471
How are you so original?

>>2902476
>> Are you joking?
I believe he pretty much is. It's a forced meme in this thread. Your drawings look exactly like what a little kid would draw, although your selection of colors isn't so bad. If you're older than 14, then it's about time to start learning how to draw. Start from the very basics of it.

>>2902421
Simple, clean and conveys motion. It could easily pass for stylization over lack of skill.

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>>2902481
But I like to draw cartoons, anon.

>>2902484
kys

>>2902471
this meme is one of the worst things to happen to these threads

>>2902485
Why do you hate cartoons? Y over dedicated your life to knock-off renaissance art, and I've dedicated mine to drawing things people actually want to look at.

>>2902422

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It's edgy, but how is it?

>>2902489
Why are you in the beginner thread

>>2902490
You just made my day

>>2902401
What's your status? Have you gotten arrested yet?

I want to see what drawings your mom saw that made her say you're a pedo

>>2902489
>Self aware that they're drawing edge
>Still continue anyway

I hate this meme

>>2902494
its not even edgy, its tim burton tier lmao so eccentric grimdark nu-shit

>>2902492
He was probably making fun of you. I just learned this lesson.

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ok so
am i on the right track here?

>>2902492
fucking end yourself

>>2902487
Except that they don't. Your mom, your family, and your school friends may tell you that your drawings look great forever, but that doesn't make them great and pleasing to people who don't know your personally. Your drawings are shitty, because you lack any skill whatsoever. The sooner you realize and accept this reality, the sooner you start actually improving. If you don't want to improve, then, pretty please, don't post your shit online.

>>2902500
damn

>>2902501
Okay, tell me everything I'm doing wrong.
>inb4 "drawing cartoons"

>>2902391
>Going to jail because of a fucking sketch you've made
Get the fuck outta here. You and the rest of this dumb fucking board. You can't be serious

>>2902504
drawing cartoons
liking your work at this level
having atrocious taste in any form of aesthetics
making an edgy, shit, numale, idealogical statement an infant would frown on
getting defensive on a board entirely built for critique
existing as yourself

>>2902498
no

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>>2902506
I'm classically trained as a painter but my passion is cartoons. I meant tell me what's wrong with my drawings.

its bait, dont respond to it

>>2902509
Black eyebrows but he has a green mustache. Contact painter and get it fixed

>>2902510
whom

>>2902422
Thanks for your fingerprints
t. fbi

is there any poster like >>2901280 around or someone from /draw/ or anyone helpful

>>2902515
im here if you need help anon

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>>2902509
>>2902506
I'm classically trained as a painter but my passion is abstract art. I meant tell me what's wrong with my painting.

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how did i do

Im Loomis

>>2902504
Your knowledge of anatomy is non-existent. Your faces look ugly. Your clothes aren't drawn properly (but that's a thing almost nobody cares about when drawing cartoons). Learn to draw normal humans before you try to stylize them. I can't believe it's me who's telling you that, but even I can tell why your humans look about as bad as my first pictures. And that says a real fucking lot.

To sum it up, you may be able to paint to some (beginner) degree, but you can't draw at all. Learning to draw is essential for someone who wants to picture humans and other exotic beasts of this world. "I draw cartoons" is just an excuse for lazy assholes. Even if you draw only qt animoo gurls, you can't possibly hope to fuck up the face and anatomy and still make the picture look good. Hint: if you draw a pleasing face, minor anatomy fuck-ups don't ruin the picture as much, and you can hide minor anatomy fuck-ups under loose clothing; but that's not an excuse for not trying to learn anatomy.

>>2902517
Patreon?

>>2902518
its not as terrible as i expected for the subject matter

>>2902519
hello can i have some gud please

>>2902516
Idk if you critique cartoons but can you help me with >>2902421 and >>2902484
I looked at them too long to see flaws. Need a fresh pair of eyes.

>>2902516
>>2902498

>>2902520
This was really detailed but I have a couple questions. Where are my errors? Like my face errors and anatomy errors.

>>2902524
reported

>>2902522
Your drawings look a bit too 2D and I can see that you're really just drawing without having a good mindset about the 3D aspect of the characters.
I suggest studying anatomy, read Bridgmans complete guide, it will give you a sense what kind of "symbols" you have to put into your drawings to give them that "3D" feel to them. Also I suggest drawing from realism as well, and try to not "finish" a drawing before you can really "see" your drawing pop out.
Even cartoons have a 3D feel to them if done properly, for now don't focus too much on having your own style, your just going to end up like your average deviantart user with no progress over the years. Besides Bridgeman and drawing from realism (reference drawings, google image poses etc.) also check a few of your favourite artists, "dont" focus too much on the cartoonish aspect of them as say don't put too much attention to the things like "eyes, mouths etc." but more on how that person draws those things, and how those drawings are really made "3D". But I suggest to do the former 2 first.
Anyway never finish a sketch if it doesn't look "right" enough, if its not right enough, you need to study more anatomy/poses.
>>2902523
Number one rule. never, ever trace shit. Look at a reference, and draw it on your sketchbook/wacom tablet instead, use your memory skills to remember how the face proportions go and study the reference as well. You will become extremely good if you do this, see how lines correlate to the rest of the face, for example eyes generally go on the same height as ears.

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>>2902509
>>2902421
>>2902517
>>2902524
In case you don't get my point and if I'm too subtle for you: If you do not strive for reality then we cannot judge you by any objective standards. There are objectively realistic proportions but there are no comic proportions we can judge you by.

Your feets are way to small in >>2902421 and they have no ankles - but is that because you are a bad at drawing or is that your "style"? The nose isn't right, but again is that part of your style or do you just suck? No elbows? Again, do you suck or is that intentional stylization? If you were to fix all these things it would no longer be a comic or it would be a very realistic comic like some marvel comics.

>>2902529
>never trace
this wasnt meant to be a finished work, i dont even do digital. its meant to be a double check to make sure the lines i use can be applied to real faces. sorry if i didnt make that clear, i assumed people would know. the question being, are these lines generally correct?

>>2902530
Drawing is my only talent. I can draw ankles. You're right about everything else though. I guess it comes down to this: does it convey movement? Is it appealing to look at?

>>2902529
I definitely need to learn more. When it comes to 3d-ness I am flying in the dark.

>>2902531
no they're not, the lines are too "straight"
also loomis is shit, the head isn't a fuckin circle. you should study skeletons instead, the skeleton is egg shaped with a diamond shaped at the bottom, perspective is never a circle form, if you keep drawing with circles you will get confused later whn you want to draw more realistic characters
Best way to study is to learn skeletons and anatomy/muscles etc. instead. Once you got the hang of that you go over to perspective. Read "Perspective Made Easy" by Norling

can i trust this man >>2902533 ?

>>2902524
The face elements are not positioned properly with that dude who resembles Link from The Legend of Zelda. The girl's face is simply fugly. In each case, their hands, neck, and feet are too small and have bad anatomy overall. The shoulders are small. The proportions are fucked. Link's joints bend like he is made of jelly. Your perspective and foreshortening knowledge is non-existent. That's about all you have to fix to make a better looking cartoony drawing.

>>2902532
> Drawing is my only talent
>> talent
>>> talent
Laughing_cheetah.jpg

Well, Link conveys some movement indeed. But which one? That remains a total mystery. And no, your drawings don't look appealing, that's the entire point.

>>2902535
loomis is basically12yr olds who just want to draw basic heads, you shouldnt read that if your serious about drawing

>>2902535
Hes trolling. Go back to loomis

>>2902536
The face worries me because it looks fine to me but clearly has some big flaws.

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>>2902532
>does it convey movement? Is it appealing to look at?

No and no.

Well it does indicate movement but not as much as it could if done with extreme perspective / foreshortening and a more dynamic pose.

It's not appealing to look at because it is neither realistic enough nor stylized enough, it sits in the middle and your flaws in anatomy become very apparent.

Pic related conveys a lot of movement and is very dynamic. It's also based on fairly realistic proportions, it's based on Loomis idealistic 8 heads tall proportions.

>>2902537
Don't troll beginners.

What is loomis

>>2902538
>>2902540
>studying anatomy is trolling

>>2902540
I'm scared to make a habit of being realistic. I want to be able to do foreshortening though.

>>2902195
First gesture, then construction, and finally anatomy. Don't even think about anatomy until you've mastered the first two.

I wish somebody told me that in high school.

>>2902535
>>2902533
It's true that the head is more like an egg than a sphere. The average Human is also between 6 and 7,5 heads tall whereas Loomis made them 8 heads tall. Loomis proportions are not realistic but idealistic, they look very handsome and heroic.

He is still worth learning, his proportions if done properly still look realistic and it's easy to adjust.

>>2902543
>To say that Loomis only teaches the head is not bullshit

>>2902546
loomis teaches cartoonized versions of bodies
its not good learning material

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Advice? I seem to have messed up proportions, especially on her shoes. Also her backpack looks flat. Is the shading ok?

>>2902549
Keep up the good work. Loomis would be proud.

>>2902549
Is this a joke?

this thread is shit, people are saying loomis is bad, its all cartoons, people are being defensive.

see you next thread

>>2902544
>I'm scared to make a habit of being realistic.

Why would that be a bad habit?

And say, if you were to draw someone throwing a punch, do you know how far the arm can bend? You can exaggerate that bending in a semi-realistic drawing but if you have no clue chances are that you will draw something that looks painful and broken.

>>2902544
>I want to be able to do foreshortening though.

Can't do that without lots of knowledge about perspective, proportions and gesture. Go start learning instead of making excuses.

>>2902547
>cartoonized versions of bodies

Idealistic proportions are far off from "cartoonized" and if you can do a 8 heads figure it's no big deal to do 7,5 heads... Unless you are retarded.

>>2902544
Don't even try to think that's a bad habit. And don't even try to think that you can never go back to drawing your cartoons once you master the art of drawing realistically.

>>2902539
Maybe I should post my Yuuka portrait again and ask whether it looks fine to you (as a test), but I need to forget it completely or I'll never notice why it looks bad. Even though I realized its flaws the next day I painted it, I still can not comprehend why it looks so bad to an observer, so now I'm trying my best to avoid looking at it.

>>2902553
There are better resources out there like draw an box and ctrl+paint that teach how to draw the only kind of art that makes money nowadays

>>2902552
I'm just starting out :(
>>2902550
thanks, but I don't know who that is

>>2902556
Please post it.

>>2902554
I'm not making excuses, I said I want to learn. I want to learn how to draw a healthy punch.

>>2902559
Hes the man who invented the anime style. He specializes in teaching unrealistic, cartoony styles.

>>2902562
Are you having a passive aggressive meltdown? Are you alright?

>>2902565
Who

>>2902566
he is. he is the cartoon poster from before. just report and hide

>>2902566
Amy Schumer.

>>2902568
Not the same person.

Is there a way to turn the Loomis book into an audio book? I cant keep my eyes on the same line and its taking forever to read

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>>2902560
Oh well, here you go then. Tell me your opinion on the girl and what looks wrong to you, or this test won't fulfill its purpose.
Everybody else, please don't make unnecessary comments. I know everything already.

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>>2902554
>Loomis
>Draws 2D flat shapes, terrible exercise, teaches you only circles which are the most 2D SHIT ever
>Bridgman
>Teaches you to draw spheres AND cubes

>b-but muh loomis
>in reality you havent improved jackshit over the past 10years and still draw like a 10yr old weeb

>>2902578
>using his book aimed at children for comparision

lol

>>2902581
>implying loomis can draw anything but children drawings

>>2902576
>>2902576
Her hair looks like grass or carpet, her cheeks are vast, her ear is diseased... her mouth is small but that's expected of animes. Her neck is scary. It's ham-fisted overall. The nose isn't super anime, the mere suggestion of a nose would have sufficed.
That was my best try.

>>2902576
You're still hung up on this fucking drawing?

Move on, make new drawings, learn new things and stop polishing the same turds for days then spending all of your time defending it, shove it in a folder somewhere, forget about it and come back to it in a few years to see how much you've progressed with your new drawings.

If you're that desperate for advice for this drawing then learn how hair works and give it actual volume and form that wraps around the head don't just draw onto her skull with a grass texture brush.

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okay im feeling better about this. so once im done with this would it be worth it to do a gouache version?

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>>2902585
>>2902578
> teaches you only circles which are the most 2D SHIT ever

Look at pic related.

He does teach drawing with blocks and foreshortening.

>>2902585
>>implying loomis can draw anything but children drawings

Are you one of these "trolls" pretending to be retarded or are you seriously retarded?

>>2902588
its a troll, this entire thread is a troll. also checked

>>2902576
You do NOT DRAW NECKS LIKE THAT
Necks CURVE ON BOTH SIDE THE SAME WAY, they never curve both inward EVER

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>>2902593
>>2902578
I can understand that you only went to the children's section of a library and thus never realized that Loomis made books for grown ups too.

>>2902587
Well, if you didn't notice the entirely wrong facial proportions and wrong head shape, that means you have a huge lot to learn. Still, you were able to notice something, so that means you have some hope.

>>2902588
>>2902594
>>2902595
>>>>> Everybody else, please don't make unnecessary comments. I know everything already.
*sigh* Yeah, it was a faint hope. I wonder if I should still hope that there would be no more retards who use their eyes for sex games instead of seeing and comprehending what they see.

>>2902598
You posted a pretty bad drawing, anon. Let's see one of your better works before I go.
Also
>I pointed out each distorted facial features except the eyes which are also distorted

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>>2902576
i tried to fix the neck desu, but i dont draw girls normally, pls excuse the manly face

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>>2902599
A compilation of my colored works can be found at the link in this post:
>>2899055

And the painting that I'm currently working on is pic related. Unfortunately, some circumstances prevented me from getting around to fixing her hair, finishing the render, and applying shading.

By proportions, I also mean relative positions of the elements.

>>2902603
*sigh* The retard train will never stop, will it...

>>2902603
Even with the chicken scratch it took you minutes to fix what he's been trying to for days with advice.

My sides.

>>2902607
he doesn't follow advice, that's the problem

>>2902603
>>2902605
No offense but never critique anyone's art ever again because you have no fuckibg idea what you're doing.

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>>2902609
*sigh*
another retard that can only flame others

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thoughs?

>>2902617
It's big.

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>>2902605

>>2902623
This is identical to the other one. You made all the same mistakes. Learn.

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>>2902628
not that anon, borrowed some of his OC and turned it into some fresh memes

>>2902629
It just drives me up the wall when someone who can't draw says your art is no good and acts uppity.

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>>2902633
nothin u can do bout autism

>>2902609
Oh, but I already did it several (perhaps a dozen) times. And guess what? Each time my words were recognized as proper advice and supported by others. And they indeed brought improvement to those who were eager to listen and show their immediate progress, like that landscape guy. I suppose it wouldn't work just as well if I actually used a name, or a trip, or another poster-identifying characteristic, now would it?

See, that's another reason I didn't want to post that portrait. A human nature is such that a bad impression lasts way too long. Shouldn't have even mentioned it, but what's done is done, and there is no need to care about being harassed here. After all, the guys here fail to recognize you or even your pictures until you clearly connect yourself to your past.

>>2902633
If you're that guy who drew Link-or-whoever-it-was and the fugly gurl, then it would be advisable for you to simply shut up and listen to the mouth of the Legion, disregarding its identity. Like I said previously, I can't believe it's me who has to say this, and that means a fucking lot.

>>2902649
nigger that link drawing was 1000x better than your garbage, your fuckin high

>>2902649
fucking awful poster. please leave. this is why you should be wary of /beg/ advice

>>2902649
You cherry pick aspects of drawing that you can actually handle to give advice on and then act like you're the bee's knees and that you're above criticism? You're so far up your own ass that you're above to flip inside out.

>If you're that guy who drew Link-or-whoever-it-was and the fugly gurl, then it would be advisable for you to simply shut up and listen to the mouth of the Legion, disregarding its identity.

You then go on to insult other people's artwork and suggest they listen to advice regardless of who it is when you can't even follow advice and have written off several replies as "trolls" because it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

You are never going to make it, you can't draw if your ego is blocking your sight of the paper.

whats harder, figures or heads?

>>2902657
heads by far

>>2902657
Combining them

>>2902659
fuck really. i assumed that part would be easy

>>2902663
I'm messing with you, although if you're one of those people who only draws anime heads all day than you will struggle to attach a body to it so I'd say figures are more important early on.

>>2902664
>figures are more important early on
nice, looks like i won that coin toss

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do you guys like my drawing?
first day of drawing on a tablet

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>>2902669
working on something for mothersday

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is this right?

>>2902656
Now wait a bit, please.
>> and then act like you're the bee's knees and that you're above criticism
Where exactly did I suggest that? My memory must be worsening due to age, 'cause I certainly don't remember it.

>> You cherry pick aspects of drawing that you can actually handle
Oh hey, I can handle something now. Glad to hear.
Nah, I simply pick the aspects of a picture that look flawed to me, as well as everyone else. I apparently progressed the most at rendering, but I didn't say a word about his rendering.

>> and have written off several replies as "trolls" because it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
The form is what makes the trolling in the eyes of an observer, dude. Proper critique is always welcome. Sadly, here it is overwhelmed by apes aping around. The only useful and novel things I got from this thread would be (chronolog.):
1) The understanding that I didn't notice some of the things when doing a reverse profile portrait on paper (but it still looks pretty close to the original).
2) Nosebro's picture of how a feminine nape view should look.
3) The knowledge that I draw some good-looking feet.
4) The understanding that my knowledge of anatomy and foreshortening is lacking overall and I need to study more.
5) The understanding that my Yuuka portrait looks bad and I need to study more.
6) The understanding that the portraits which followed finally have the proper proportions, except the Cirno's one.
7) That Cirno redline, which was the most useful of them.
8) The understanding that my best method of drawing hair is unappealing and I need to reconsider it. (I still didn't get any guidance on how to draw realistic hair properly; I only got it from my senpai in another thread on another imageboard, and that was easily the best advice I ever got on drawing/rendering/painting.)

In return, I gave some useful advice to other beginners and simply socialized with others amiably. And why, the atmosphere in this thread looked much more peaceful than before.

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>the daily /beg/ is back

get your issue here!

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>>2902694
i fixe the drawing for u anon
see my fixes and learn

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rate/hate?

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>>2902736
>>2902714

>>2902736
nobody is gonna respond to your shitty drawings u fukin faggot go kill yourself

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>>2902738
>>2902739
hello redit!

>>2902746
hi! :P

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?
i know

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Fukin TALENTED bae

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TFW German loli anon is probably already in gulag

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>>2902772 -> >>2902768
mfw cant even properly use 4honz

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>>2902736
new drawing
keeping the thread alive x3

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opinions, critique?

>>2902785
how is the drawing called? its very deep U_U

>>2902787
haha you think so too ? =D

>>2902785
I guess spiderman never replied in bald rato threads.

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Be proud, cube anon. Be very proud.

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walp. no one is answering my landscape questions. well i got bored with painting and decided to see if i still remember how to loomis. so how are these? i might proceed and draw some faces if they are okay

>>2902792
>all loomis faces are in the same 3/4 perspective
anon, go back to practice!

>>2902792
scritch scratch scritch scratch

>>2902795
well it was the tilt i was practicing. i dont have much experience with tilted heads. are these okay?

>>2902796
im sorry i just dont draw a lot so my line quality goes to shit, the top left and right were the first two so you can see how the line quality drops

>>2902799
yea, theyr fine to use as a base
also its better to draw right next to your loomis head your "head". It will help your muscle memory

>>2902801
>also its better to draw right next to your loomis head your "head". It will help your muscle memory
i dont under stand. you mean draw the face next to the head instead of over it?

>>2902774
stazi torture block

>>2902804
yeah, exactly, it will help you "get a feel" of the head more, so you have to rely less on Loomis over time

>>2902792
i remember you from months ago
you are still as shit
you arent eric are you?

>>2902808
oh that makes sense. i dont think im nearly at that point yet but ill keep that in mind later on

>>2902809
amb eric. that makes sense considering i havent loomisd in a few months ish. you do realize im the one who posts gouache landscapes right? im doing other things besides grind loomis and figures

>>2902811
anon you arent gonna improve if your not gonna try practicing...

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>Buy toned sketchbooks and copic markers
>Forgot to buy Hard surface paper
>Copic markers bleed through
>I suck with copics and don't understand how to make form at all
ayyy, fuck me. Someone put me out of my misery.

>>2902811
yeah i can spot your landsacpes too
i'll say again what i've always said to you. you wont improve until you change your mindset.

>>2902814
What prevents you from going back to buy proper paper?

>>2902818

I am a poor neet and I spent all my savings (100euros) on this. Even if I had the money I have to travel 60km to get to the only art store that might sell a hard surface toned sketchbook.


Fuck senpai, I am my own worst enemy. I guess I'll just have to push through with what've got now...

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>>2902812
i know i just get bored with it and get distracted with landscape stuff. im improving with gouache and at landscapes, just not loomis and figure

>>2902815
i stopped being so defensive :\ are you saying im still being a shit

i just did this based off the top left of those heads i posted above. i know theres a lot of symbol drawing so im going to work on that later

>>2902823
how about work it out then post

Am I supposed to be able to draw an actual straight line anytime soon after starting the drawbox method? Or is it a gradual process that takes time?

When I copy something from reference, is it normal to only see cartoons well first? Real life is very hard for me to visualize the lines.

Is it normal for a beginner to have a "minds eye" that doesn't work? VERY hard to visualize anything.

I feel broken.

>>2902825
im going to sketch faces on all of them then i will but my point was my last round of flak was over me drawing one face and trying to paint with a lot of detail instead of getting good at a just drawing sketches so im ready to suck it up and do that now. assuming i actually go through

>>2902826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaif0PpNMas

not that i'd know from experience

>>2902828
actually pretty good, im surprised.

Going to follow Aguri's one year shit. Anyway can I go through Perspective Made Easy instead or Erik Olson's videos?

>>2902787
>>2902789
wow.. My eyes light up and my heart started racing as soon as i read your comments!

Thanks a lot for your kind words guys! I really appreciate it. it did stir some emotions inside

>>2902790
HAHAHAHA Actually I f*cked up, it's supposed to be right side up =D

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Drew this in class. I thought maybe I should post it here.

>>2902837
pretty cool doodles, youu got more?

>>2902838
reported

>>2902837
why?

>>2902840
dafuq

>>2902840
wtf is it with all these redditors all of a sudden on 4chan, like the only spots on this website where the core of 4chan is are /b/ and /r9k/, everything else is fukin redditcentral

>>2902852
i see you are trying to fit in by repeating what you have seen other users do and attempting to ostracise another. please consider returning to your home community and not coming back here again.

Dear IC
My stuff is so bad it doesn't even deserve to be in the beginner thread.
I'm a working adult in a non-art field so I have very little time to art.
BUT, I recently learned that I need surgery (ear-related problem), which means I'll probably get a 3 weeks sick leave from work. It's been a while since I had so much time to myself...
Knowing that I want to draw lewd waifus, what's the best way to improve in this period? is there a specific, helpful book that you would recommend? Any advce at all, really?

>>2902826
HOLY SHIT I CAN DRAW STRAIGHT LINES I JUST NEED PAPER UNDER MY PAPER TO MAKE A SOFTER SURFACE YES!!!!

>>2902860
There is no easy way.

Read the sticky.

>>2902862
How is stacking paper is supposed to make your lines straighter.

>>2902860
you need to practice about 6 hours a day for about 2 years before you can draw lewd waifus competently.

lower your living costs and cut down your employed hours.

>>2902894
The cushon below makes for a less... resistive experience.

Might just be in my head but it went from broomstick to fairly consistent in that one change. I did rip through the top layer on one, is that normal?

>>2902895
Yeaaaah no. I can't. I can't realisticly cut down my work hours, without changing my whole lifestyle (which would imply: leaving a gf I love, moving out of city, finding a new job a living place, and lot of other things)

I just wanted to make the best of that time, making the right habits so I could dish out maybe 2hours daily on art when I would resume working, and use the initial period to get the motivation I need to get reliably started.

Guess I'll just read the sticky

>>2902910
sounds like you have a claustrophobic life. do you really need all that money? what do you spend it on? is it so worth it that stops you from doing anything you might want to do?

>>2902906
Sounds like you are carving the lines into the paper.

>>2902842
To have your opinion

>>2902921
On that one, I was, but it was straight and consistant as a razer's edge.

Should I not do that?

>>2902918
I don't need all that money. I could survive with a 30% cut on my salary without any significant impact.
But I work in a field where you have to put on the hours or you don't get any credit. I can't work part-time and expect my co-workers to respect my work.

>>2902931
oh well, sucks for you. enjoy your life of no discipline or pursuits

>>2902860
If you're fine with only drawing lewd faces, it is possible to learn it without any tutorials or textbooks in a week. Simply copy some of the best to understand what precisely makes a good naughty face, and then try making your own. Everything else requires much more time to learn than 2 or 3 weeks.

My shoulder muscles are cramped as fuck from drawing, damn. Any suggestions? (anything but stopping)

>>2902975
Work out, obviously. With a mandatory inclusion of rotating your arms and stretching them.

>>2902982

Sounds good, bench time!

>>2902221
you already not gonna make it

new thread when

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>mfw that's my cat in the OP

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Keys to Drawing project 1.C
Drawing a red pepper from imagination, and from real life reference

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>tfw only allowed to it cookies if I do assignment work

I AM A HUMAN, AND I AM COMING

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Fucked up the proportions on the right side so I can't finish it, first time copying from reference has clicked at all despite the fuck up.

Is Draw a Box Lesson 1 + Copying a good daily grind for a beginner? Anything else I should throw in there as someone right off the boat?