/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

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Newest drawing just in case anybody missed it again.

>>2893415
keep up the good work

>>2893415
Yeah, keep up the good work. It's quite the inspiration. Do you use the fill tool and then air brush? It looks really nice.

>>2893415

How are you so good?

>>2893401
i like MAN ASS

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>>2893405

>>2893173
I went from not being able to draw them to that in one day.
Just watch some instructional video on structure
or look up some lip structure online.
Then copy from reference.

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>>2891788
Reposting, I didn't get to finish this before my jewpad died, any critique before i jump back in?

>>2893415
How long did it take you?

>>2893440
Your lines are shit.
It takes you 10 lines to figure out the right one
instead of just drawing the right line.
Also squash the image.

>>2893399
>draw a lot one day
>wake up the next day with arm pain
>realize that means I must've drawn too much the day before
Why does this keep happening? At this rate, I don't know if my arm will put out before I even make it. I even draw every day, just not as much as I did yesterday.

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On the right track?

>>2893453
Stretch, hit the gym.
>>2893459
Do lots of 30-60s gesture. It feels a bit stiff.

>>2893446

Looking cool man, you should expand on it by showing off some detailed drawings of the main parts on the side, put in a little bit of back story and explain how it works, sort of like concept art presentation.

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>>2893469
i actually have a bit of backstory, it's a seeker, which is a special made bio-sculpt that has a driving hunger for any specific thing that the biomancer who made it wants it to hunt programed into it

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any critique? i literally have no clue how to apply shadows correctly

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Is stylization OK when doing studies?
Note that I can't into frizzy hair. Also, fuck the damn cloth paterns. I'm aware that the face ended up quite different from the model.

Any tips for someone going from traditional (pencil/ink line drawing) to digital? It feels like I can't draw my lines the way I wish.

Also, go all out, I need some critique and/or advice.

>>2893415
What rate are you drawing these?? One a day?

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I'm about to throw this in the trash and stop drawing for the rest of the month
Any tips?
Mainly about her hands, feet and face

Does anyone know a good EU based online art store?

>>2893489
>stylized
Not gonna make it

>>2893489
stylization is a nice tool but you should not use while studying like this
you must start with realism. first learn to draw what you see, THEN learn to distort that the proper way.
keep up the good work, cheers!

>>2893509
Actually, I usually draw what I see. As of late, I've been studying how to distort it. Thus a stylized study.

Though my problem right now is me stuggling with transition to digital.

>>2893499
stop alrdy beginning to colour when your sketch isnt even good yet m8, your wasting good practice time

>>2893506
import them from china, see al much cheaper

>>2893516
Oh, I see
Well, learning digital art is like learning to draw again. I recommend you learning (BASIC) realism in digital art (basic because realism is quite harder to achieve in digital, while stylization is quite easier) before stylization

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>>2893399
I tried some muscle studies today(trying to get better at painting bodies that don't look like lumps of clay), and am looking for crit on mistakes I've made in value, anatomy, form, ect. and how I can remedy them

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Messing around with this right now.

>>2893415
I unironically like your work. Keep it up

>>2893517

Do you have any good source? I've spent 3 hours looking for a EU based seller for Wide Copic Markers that ships to Spain, no good luck.

>>2893415
there's a joy to your work i like

>>2893267
2000 calories a day and no exercise? Lol, you must be kidding. I'm getting about 1300—1600 calories daily for years (probably even less) and I exercise intensely, but it still took about a year (since I started that) to lose 20 kgs, and after that, I'm just staying at my ideal BMI. Though it has some big disadvantages: you can't grow a lot of muscle that way (but you can indeed shape your body to a nicely looking degree) and it can make you really tired if you exercise a lot. On the other hand, if you don't exercise, you can gain some fat again even while eating only that much.

And for such a fattie it may be literally impossible, because fat guys usually lack self-control. That's why they get so fat: they always submit to their gluttony, and eating something makes you less likely to exercise for some time. Then they get hungry again, and the vicious cycle repeats.

>>2893285
You mean the guy who drew 3/4 portraits or the guy who ridiculed him by posting the same Grinchy Cirno with little differences?

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What wrong?

>>2893399
woah wtf....i drew that yesterday...thanks anon for using it for thumbnail thread

>>2893499

Don't even think about going for a month without drawing, if you don't feel like doing new material you have to learn, then just draw straight lines, curves and ellipses. It's better than nothing at all

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>>2893531

Slowly slowly..

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I know the bug looks unappealing as fuck, but is the construction ok?

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>>2893769
Oy vey that's utter shit

Put a v6 in it and no refueling


Looks good Anon keep it up

>>2893773

That's a neat idea, I'd love to see a V6 Muscle designed based on a Tiger Beetle. Thanks, Anon!

What's better; Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain or Draw a Box?

>>2893650
proportions and perspective are a bit off but colors are nice

>>2893780

Drawing on the side of the brain is for complete beginners with zero observational skills, meaning that you are totally incapable of drawing what's in front of you without symbol drawing. Draw A box is the next step.

>>2893786
Well, I started reading Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain and I feel like I already have a grasp on the concept of drawing what's in front of you instead of symbol drawing. But I haven't really gotten that far in the book. I've just done the upside-down drawing exercise and the exercise where you trace your own hand on the viewfinder.

>>2893795
no practice is lost time, its a good book so you might as well read and do all of it.

>>2893795

I can't see why you couldn't get started on Draw A box, but do keep practicing your observational skills for a bit so you have an easier time

I'm working through Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain right now, but do I really need to read all this theory stuff about the brain? It feels like she's just rambling and saying the same thing over and over again but I'm a complete beginner so I don't know if you can skip it/skim read it.

>>2893809
Ignore her incoherent rambling just focus on the exercises

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before I start adding details and plummet into the depths of despair with shading.. anything that is horribly off?

>>2893619
The nose and mouth are curving towards the left instead of in the correct persoective your head is facing

>>2893823
The top of the head should be placed closer to his forehead. Now it looks more like he has a tumah on the back or left side of his skull. Also, that stray line on the upper lip bugs me, but it might be just a cut. The neck feels kinda strange, not sure what could be wrong. Otherwise, nice pose, proportions, and linework.

>>2893827
That's it! Thanks.

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>>2893845
Thanks

Is this more accurate? The more I think about it the more I realize just how much I dont know. This just looks so off to me

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I have no idea what i'm doing.

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>>2893896
Looks too flat to me, but I suppose there are people with this kind of skull too. I think the top of his head is placed about right, but I meant something like this.

>>2893914
If you painted it without tracing, then you're doing some really cool things. Godspeed to you.

>>2893922
ooh I see! Thanks my man

>>2893922
I looked at reference. Didn't trace it tho.
The thumbnail looks good to me but zoomed in it's a mess.

>>2893946
Just polish it to some extent and make the pine branches look like pine branches, not some stick. Some texture to the road and snow, if you want. And it would look good enough to be put on a wall.

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>>2893572

>>2893961
Blog?

>>2893962
http://www.theonion.com/

>>2893961
omgg so kawaii

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>>2893956
Better?
I don't think I understand depth well enough.
Feels like there's a certain scale where I'm comfortable polishing and others not so much.

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How's this

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>tfw nobody ever replies to your drawings

>>2893981
Fuck, did you draw that? Got a blog?

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>>2893985
really nigga

>>2893981
How are you so good?

>>2893985
>>2893989
i hate you guys

>>2893976
Definitely better now, but still a lot of room for improvement. I think you can screw the details on the far trees that stand to the right of the point where the road turns. Add more details to the closest ones and consider doing something about that bad looking airbrush dirt on the snow (smudge it or make it look more realistic).

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>>2893979
/ic/ doesn't appreciate stylization, and the stylization thread is trash. here, you should be posting more serious studies from life/photos and then using what you learn from that on your own personal subjects.
this bird has minimal to no shading, weird anatomy (are they wings or arms? is it's body shaped like a person or a bird?) sloppy linework (look at the hat, it's a perfect cone with concentric rings, mathematically the easiest shape, and you fucked it up) and it just looks wierd, but nothing we haven't gone through as beginners. the best advice would be to look for ways to accurately draw from life(without just symbol drawing it), like semi-blind drawing.

Also, anybody wanna bash my semi-blind drawing technique? besides >>2893444, what should i do? i just learned this shit and i am insane about it.

>tfw you're a fucking depressed, unmotivated idiot who paid $20 for Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain and paid $113 for supplies from the website and you're probably never going to actually take the time to get good

I want to fucking kill myself, not just because of this, but it doesn't help.

>>2894018
>he actually bought the book and all that other nonsense

Lmao

>>2894025
The book was an impulse decision while walking around Barnes and Noble stoned, and the I bought the supplies because I couldn't be fucked to procure them on my own. I also may have been stoned.

>>2894029
why not just get a fucking 40$ wacom tablet instead of all that BS

>>2894013
>>2893979
To be fair, most people's stylization suckz. And you can't give critique because you cannot know what is intentional and what is just the result of being a bad artist.

Like >>2893415

Should I tell him that the neck is too small for such a big head, or is that intentional and part of his or her "style"? Style almost always means to be anatomically incorrect on purpose but than you cannot possibly judge them objectively, so what's the point? And for many beginner artists style seems to mean that they can get away (or think they can) without learning form, perspective and anatomy.

>>2894032
Because I'm a fucking moron who hates himself and I don't think before I act. I also prefer traditional mediums. Not like it matters, I'm never going to get good at anything and I only have myself to blame.

>>2894036
post something

>>2894040
I haven't fucking done anything besides the upside down drawing.

>>2894033
>>2894013
>And for many beginner artists style seems to mean that they can get away (or think they can) without learning form, perspective and anatomy.

To add: Sometimes people upload stylized images that at least are founded on perspective and form, these can be judged objectively. That's the least stylized artists can do, make use of perspective and form.

But instead you get these shitty flat full frontal bullshit drawings that shows that the artists has not read the sticky and has no real interest in becoming a good artists.

>>2894054
Your lines are too scribbly. The tail looks as deep as the body.

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>>2893997
Tried something.
I assume I have to do a lot of environment studies to figure out how to do details better.

>>2894054
Do that shit on paper you nigger

>>2894075
Mind teaching me how you paint trees, anon? I have trouble with it.

>>2894092
Go watch Bob Ross

>>2894094
>tfw totally forgot about Bob Ross
I guess it's time to finally learn how to paint landscapes from the man himself.

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>>2894091
but i needed to get a little better at doing it on a tablet

>>2894075
>draw a line from bottem to top represnting th ebase of the tree
>draw some lines in x shapes or whater on the train to represent branches
make tiny "flakes" on branches that represent leaves
nigga this shit aint hard

>>2894054
Are you even trying nigga, those fucking lines aren't even even or wrapping around the fucking form. Why the are fuck are you hatcching like this anyways? I know fish look like they have a hundred gazillion scales, but make an effort you piece of shit. At least it looks like a fish that's in water because of your air bubbles. Get back at it.

>>2894092
What helps me a lot is constantly thinking about how they're 3D
and think of the structure like a fractal at least for pines.
I don't usually do landscapes or nature so I'm not sure if I'm a good source for this.
When I used to do other tries I'd group leaves in shapes.
Squint at reference and determine what's important I guess.

>>2894099
draw digital anon, the only times you should think of pen and paper drawing is when your not at home and want to still practice

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>>2894075
Looks great, but it'd be better to give (back) some detalization to the trees that are to the left to the center of the picture. At the center, you have a tree that is slightly darker than the ones surrounding it. The further away is the object, the less dark it is (because it is more obscured by particles that are in the air). I propose covering the furthest trees with some haze, same for the ones at the top of the mountain. Finally, the snow looks too realistic compared to the road. I think you should improve the road too. If it is paved with asphalt, then add some noise (spaced) and blur it with the distance (might be worth it to try this for its whole length, including the closest part).

>>2894099
is that yours? That's much better and WTF

Man, can't people nowadays just masturbate to analsex and bdsm anymore?

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>>2894119
>Man, can't people nowadays just masturbate to analsex and bdsm anymore?
yes, yes they can, and yes it's mine

>>2894127
seriously, wtf was that pencil drawing?
naked thickskin lizardman sharing wine with evil musculoseletal clawhand spikehorse leaning on mushroom

>>2894135
Well, when you do drugs, kids, this happens.

(Another dude.)

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>>2894135
it was this guy, brahok the dragon king, a biomancer who made himself into a dragon, in the middle of his transition, musing on that if he were to design a new race of man, he'd base it off the power of the horse as he's examining ones muscular structure

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>>2894110
Thanks for investing in me anon.

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found some colors that i like, but i know the extra details are going to kill me.

not sure how to fix that left wall/yellow border

>>2894139
>>>/mlp/

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>>2894143
yes, that was a subtle joke i stuck in there, that the big villain is almost a brony

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>>2893405
hows that?

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>>2894140
No problem, mate.
I think you've gone a bit overboard with the additional haze over the whole height of the mountain, but it depends (remember that fog thickens with distance). I don't think I can point anything else out, except for the tree right nearby the central pine. Lighter than the ones surrounding it, so it stands out. There is also some dark aura near the closest trees, is this intentional? Not sure what you could want to tell with it. Finally, I see some characteristic patterns in the sky that stem from... idk, I forgot what causes those. Extension artifacts, or poorly made Photoshop filters, or whatever. They may not be visible without an IPS display, and it's likely nobody will care if the resolution is small.

Anyway, when you consider the piece finished, let it rest overnight and inspect it again. If you can't find anything else you want to improve, then it is truly finished.

>>2894158
"its stylized"

>>2894139
>>2894148
your pencil sketches are neat, but they're hard to read. do you think you could try coloring these?

>>2894158
The placement of her right eye is off.

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>>2894164

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>>2894168
i could, tho it'd be at a later date cause i'm playing dark heresy later

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I don't know where my last post was
Here are sketches from today

>>2894163
I'll check them out.
The darkness around the tree is because I flattened my layers.
I'll have it in mind in the future and I won't fuck up.
Thanks for everything.

>>2893619
Is that mf king george

>>2894188
that's all they are - sketches

a finished piece that had work put into it would be beneficial to you and more rewarding to critique

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critique please

>>2894350
Thank you for the direction; I'll try to create an image from a passage of text tomorrow

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Opinion on this? I know it's missing a hand. I'm working on it!
Just wanted to hear advice on art style, color and pose (And other things).

>>2894407
looks like a more anime styled ghost trick character

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hello?

>>2894418
Yeah, most of my inspiration on style is based of that game. Obviously, it'll be a long time until my drawings reach that level of quality!

>>2894407
not bad at all for something stylized. Its hard to give advice in general because its so stylized, the neck is too long though and the sweater collar is off. Some proportions are off, i suggest you study anatomy and loomis regardless of doing stylized work or not.

>>2894426
hey bby

The body looks contorted a bit. The cloak and the hood are masking the construction.

Her left arm looks like it coming out from the center of her chest. I feel like that that angle, you should see more of the left shoulder and the chest. The direction the torso is facing is not so clear, the abdomen feels off. The hips/legs appear too large and detached from the upper body.

>>2894435
Thanks. I just noticed how tall the neck is! Also the arms are a little too short (And one is longer than the other), but I can't see how the sweater collar is wrong... Anyway, thanks for the advice.

>>2894448
whoops. this reply is for
>>2893531

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Same artist:
>>2894407
And how is this? Is not my character, but some kind of (shitload of quotation marks) "fanart" of someone in a game in development.

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>>2894456
(Resized version)

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Not sure if this is the right place to post animations but any critique is welcome since I'm fairly new at it.
It's supposed to be the idle stance of an old man in a game I'm working on.

>>2894472
You would get better feedback in the animation thread.

>>2894426
why be a second-rate sam youn when you can be a first-rate you

>>2894456
Torso is too lengthy, (right arm is missing)

How do I git gud at drawing?

>>2894392
looks good.

>>2894510
sticky

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What do you think of vilppu's style of "feeling" the gesture?

It seems like the only way to "get it" is to draw constantly for 10 years until it clicks. Very difficult to learn compared to mechanical drawing skills where you can literally measure angles and ellipses.

>>2894531
>tfw measure angles and feel the form
You gotta learn how to do all of them.

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>>2894472
is that puppet animation?

If you're experience with it could you point me towards some material to learn from?

I really want to learn the ins and outs of this medium but I don't know where to look for

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Sorry if it's edgy.

>>2894546
It's not too edgy because her face is cute, so it kind of balances out. Black and red create some scary stuff though.

>>2894546
wtf how r u so gud?

>>2894546
How are you so good?

>>2894546
Bro your art style is really cute, but I feel like pixel lineart and airbursh shading isn't that good of a combo

>>2894013
>Also, anybody wanna bash my semi-blind drawing technique? besides >2893444, what should i do? i just learned this shit and i am insane about it.
anyone?

>>2894546
Try to improve, faggot. Everyone is making fun of you.

>>2894614
>Everyone is making fun of you.
How

>>2894614
no im probably better than you post your work

>>2894622
He won't do it
No guts

>>2894620
It's ironic praise. All these people asking how you got so good is a meme recently. Then again you don't really seem like the type that wants or cares to improve and you look like you're having fun anyway and that's what matters.

I'm currently having this issue where when I want to draw a neutral pose of a figure or character standing, it will come out flat, stiff, and uninteresting. So I'll try and exaggerate the gesutre, and then it's like "what the fuck is this character doing, anatomy does not allow this"

Does anyone else have this issue? What should I do?

>>2894632
Yeah, I have trouble with this as well.

I find it much harder to find the gesture in front on standing poses than something more dynamic.

>>2894632
In that instance, use the appeal of the character to make it interesting. Such as colors, the clothes that they wear, face, hair, etc.

Maybe add a background.

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>>2893415
I you got good colour game my man. I can tell effort was put into this but to me it's a bit un appealing to look at (if you just had the characther by themselves). Get a note book you don't care about and DON'T rip out any of the pages, if you do a shit drawing put an X next to it and keep going, you will make tones of progress. I can't say that though cause my art looks like this. I'm routing for you my nigga

>>2893531
Why are you in the amateur thread. Hang out with the god tear people while us normies wollow in sadness

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wat can i improve on

>>2894426
The hair looks a bit dread like but this still very nice. I'm also gonna guess the tits are ment to be pointy

>>2894636
So I guess flat and stiff is the point? It IS a neutral pose, maybe I should focus more on anatomical accuracy and rendering in those instances, and leave the exaggerated gesture for more dynamic scenes

it's just that sometimes you've just gotta draw a person being all normal and having a conversation, and it's like "fuck, this is boring as shit"

>>2894646
attatch it to an animal for patreon money

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>>2893405
weak me up inside
camt wage up

>>2894650
Remember that depth can be created with shadow and perspective, so it's not necessarily flat. Stiff on the other hand is untrue as well. When you're standing naturally, are you stiff? Of course not. You're relaxed. Although, as long as it conveys what you want as in a standing/neutral pose then it's fine.

But yeah try out different things and see how they work. It depends a lot on what kind of scene you're trying to set as well. Perhaps you have them standing under a tree so bright light falls onto the character when most of their body is in shade. It makes it a lot more interesting and appealing to look at.

Other times, it could just be something as simple as wanting to see what something will look in your style since you may have never drawn it before.

>>2894606
>underage circletool pillowshaded deviantart anime gets (you)'s consistently
>i get absolutely 0(cero) critique

i hate it when all the people that can draw go to sleep and /beg/ turns into /ngmi/

>>2894668
That anon always draws interesting stuff.

>>2894650
>So I guess flat and stiff is the point

what helps me is to keep in mind that every part of the individual is being affected by gravity. that is a lot of force acting on an adult person. I reccomend looking at some bookings about animation, it will help you put energy into characters that are just standing around. "the art of drawing animals" has some good sections, mostly about horses though, but you can tell the author knows how to animate

>>2893415
all these people talking trash not realizing this is secretly solid work on the line level assuming you didnt trace hands and suits

>>2894674
Post your work nosey.
I haven't seen it in ages

>>2894668
no one wants to critique a 5 minute sketch. try spending 30-60 minutes on a piece, then posting it. if you want people to put effort into critiqueing, you need to put effort into your drawing

i agree the mspaint and "wow your so good" shitposting needs to stop

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>>2894671
demonstrably false

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posting my gross hands

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>>2894690

>>2894546
yo do u have a patreon

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Critique?
Made on my phone
Signed it just like bob says

>>2894731
Since the snow on the ground is hit by the sun, I would think the snow on the roof is too.

>>2894348
Looks more like the last Russian tsar to me.

Not directly related but what does everyone think of "prismacolor col-erase" color pencils, I don't want to use them for artistic drawing, I want them for physics and math to differenciate between variables/parentheses/graphs, basically to make the algebra part more visual and give myself a little more room for failure (an option to erase).So, do they erase well? that's my main question. Also another thing that's not so important but I'd like, is their color range usable for (vaguely) applying color theory for operations? (for example using yellow for a number added/multiplied/etc to a blue number equals green)


I already asked this on another thread but I want more people to view this and I don't think it deserves its own thread. SOrry.

>>2894733
thats piss and vagina blood

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>>2894738
Really makes you think...

who else falling for the "you have to learn to draw realism before you can draw stylised" meme?

>>2894778
The truth is they really meant.

>break out of symbol drawing so you know how to stylize correctly each time

Absolute beginners won't get it though.

>>2894778
i dont regret a single day

>>2894778
i dont regret it either anon. its worth learning a realistic way for sure.

>>2894778
Can you do either?

>>2894778
Who started this meme seriously? I remember hearing this shit like ten years ago. Was it animators and mangaka themselves? It must have been since they tend to go to art school. I think all the resources to learn art back then was to go attend school, so basically everyone did life drawing.

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>>2894514
thanks

>>2894392
Here's another set of faces. I didn't really like the subject matter but it was next reference so.

>>2894812
I think it's just harder to get your head around the idea of form through something like a cartoon or anything else stylized. Obviously it's possible but it's a more doable route to go this way.

>>2894812
>thinks that calling it a meme makes it any less true

>>2894830
Considering how much it misleads some idiots, it's somewhat untrue. It does beg the question whether or not those idiots were ever meant to make it though.

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>>2894834
How is it misleading?

Even when you draw simple cartoons you need to understand construction, form and perspective (pic related, disney like cat using spheres and cylinders).

You also need to know some basic anatomy or even a lot when you want to draw stuff like better looking mangas. Doing a few still life's of cloth thrown over stuff can greatly help you render stylized carton clothing.

Once you learned and all that you can also draw realistic. Tell me how it is misleading unless you want to draw stuff that is even more "stylized" than disney cartoons or decent looking manga.

>>2894846
gotta blame your failures on something xD

>>2894817
Why did you draw the guy as being like 4 times as big as the woman?

Is this some Attack on Titan thing?

So how does drawing stuff you can't see work when you get out of symbol drawing? I don't think I understand.

Is it replacing the basic symbols that you have for those things with other more effective symbols?

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>>2894855
I don't think it's even that. I think it's rather being self-delusional about ones own skill, not even realizing ones own failures.
Chances are that if someone says that he doesn't need to learn the basic stuff that is necessary to even draw a stylized and simplified cartoon cat that he does not realize his lack of knowledge or skill.

You can make halfway decent images without construction and perspective by tracing and memorizing. Draw a cat from a picture a few times and you can draw it from memory and it may look good.

The question is if you can draw it with different lightning, from difficult angles, animate it, draw it in a fish eye perspective without a photo reference.

>>2894876
>drawing stuff you can't see
???

>>2894876
First you draw the gesture, then you draw 3d shapes and then you render it.

>>2894879
As in drawing from imagination or memory rather than reference. Not something that's invisible, I can do that with my eyes closed.

>>2894873
ahah thank you for pointing it out. I honestly did not see that. I felt like I drew the guy's face too wide, so I must've compensated for it on the lady.

>>2894882
the sticky will help you with that.

>>2894882
Breaking out of symbol drawing means you can draw what you see, even what you see in your mind. It's a little more work because you have to learn how to clear your mind's eye as opposed to clearing your eyes to the real world. You have to clear your vision to your imaginary world.

can't stop symbol drawing eyes when trying to draw heads. wat do. i'm still on the "draw what you see" phase so construction is a bit too far yet

>>2894942
Go on pinterest and search eye tutorials or something. You'll see how it's actually a ball being wrapped around by the eyelids. This may or may not work the first time. It makes more sense if you draw a lot of faces, at least it did to me.

>>2894348
>>2894738
It is the tsar.

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>>2894952
A lot messier than your other work.

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>>2894817

Proportions are hard. The eyes seem too small when I draw the outline, so I end up making them too big.

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Do I have potential?

>>2894971
Is this bait

>>2894971
yes
dont tell me you are using a mouse though

>>2894978
Come on, anon, there's no doubt that anon is good and is just trying to get some yous from the beginner thread.

>>2894944
Start reading Loomis fun with pencil and start with construction.

>>2894961
yes, we always assume eyes to be bigger than they actually are. It's strange.

>>2894971
troll

>>2894976
How would this be bait

>>2894659
neck2long + symbol drawing below the neck

draw what your eye sees

you're getting there anon

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>>2894676
i posted some stuff on my xnosebro.tumblr.com

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I intend to paint this, is my construction okay?

>>2894991
It's kind of shitty, but it's good enough, render it.

>>2894982
>yes, we always assume eyes to be bigger than they actually are. It's strange.

yeah that's weird. it's the case for a lot of my drawings right now. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

>>2894991
no but at this point it wouldn't matter

painting practice is nice

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>>2894989
God fucking dammit it makes me foam at the mouth tier angry when you draw things ugly on purpose. Draw more cute things.

Other than that, nice.

>>2894995
Lightly tracing the outline of the hole in the skull of the eye socket while sketching might help.

>>2894989
Glad to see nosey is still drawing and improving.

>>2894988
thanks man, symbol drawing is driving me crazy, got a long way to go!

>>2895000
Eventually ugly things will turn into interesting things!

>>2894989
>tfw that rem
Nosebro can actually draw good.

>>2894999
>>2894994
Alright, thanks, I will give it a render. But just so that I'm aware what is wrong with it? Is the rather weird gesture that isn't appealing or something more fundamental?

>>2895007
>you like the drawing i did with a mouse to trigger someone

>>2895001
hey, that's a good idea! I will try that on the next ones, ty.

>>2895009
Yes do stuff like that more often

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>>2893408
shit i hate this fucker's eyes, can't make them stand out from the shadows

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Hey guys, pay attention to me please. I need it to feel validated.

how wide can you draw /beg/?

>>2895028
at least 7

>>2895028
More than >>2895029

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a painter i like is having a demo & workshop next week.

gf is offering to pay for the fee, but i'm too nervous to go.

i'm a beginner, very shy around people, and my technical skills are lacking. but i also want to git gud, and truly do have the desire to hang out with other artists and paint.

should i even bother, /ic/

>>2895034
Go and don't come back

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did some redesigns chums

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>>2895039

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>>2895041

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Trying my hand at perspective with essentially no grasp of perspective or anatomy.

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My biggest problem is motivation. I find it really hard to start new pieces. I have so many ideas but i either get hesitant and distracted or i just dont wanna draw. How can i get over this and have fun with art again? Also any critiques on the characters are cool too. I struggle with making faces.

>>2895034
if it makes you feel any better most art teachers are trash.

Any tips on drawing with a tablet, or a tutorial? It still feels awful and uncomfortable for me even after a month of practicing.

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Still no idea what I'm doing.

>>2895049

Nootropics, healthy diet, exercise, drugs.

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Shame on me for not building the nude body before I try and add clothes.

>>2895066
You're wasting your time with this for 2 days.
Do some studies.

>>2895068

All I'm good at is wasting time.

>>2895047
legs are too small
rest is ok

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Practicing VisCom, not having an easy time with crosshatching to define form and add visual interest with textures.

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I just learned how to do portraits
Advice?

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Did this in mspaint with a mouse while at work, thinking of buying a drawing tablet and actually learning some graphics software.

Should make the jump /ic/?

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>>2895138
Get a cheap $40 tablet to start
Ps the ppl are too stiff, practice using a line of action

>>2895127
hey this loox just like this guy from shameless. stevie jimmy his name is in there

>>2894780
Fucking this. The point of life drawing is to learn to draw what you see, not what you THINK you see. And guess what, if you do life drawing right, your art becomes realistic.

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>>2895160
why does he have underwear?

>>2895179
depends on what explanation ill give to my professor
the easy one is its cuz i didnt know if nudity was allowed
the slightly harder one is where i pull some artistic meaning out of my ass that its a statement abt capitalism or some bs

>>2895056
This one doesn't look as impressive, but I don't think the idea is bad. However, now I can't give any specific advice, except "continue working on it". Focus on the castle. Depending on what it is supposed to be, you may have to add a lot of texture.

>>2895226
Perspective is giving me a lot of trouble with structures.

>>2895226
These aren't helping my fundies...
I should go back right, do studies?

>>2893399
that op image looks pretty decent besides the awful anime face, that seems to be a trend, even in "good" art. Great body, nice rendering, anatomy is great

but the face looks like tim buckley drag and dropped some face pieces on it and called it a day.

>>2895231
The picture doesn't yet have any straight lines, which could be used to judge your sense of perspective. Remember that only parallel lines converge in one point by rules of perspective. It is unlikely that a big castle has all of its structures built at the same angle, so any set of parallel lines must have its own vanishing point. It is kind of hard, but if you were to use Clip Studio Paint, it has a lot of rulers that make building the picture easier. And even if you aren't, such complex structures allow to place the vanishing points wherever you wish (if you don't mind getting too far away from the reference, that is).

>>2895237
Who knows... But you do need to understand perspective if you are to draw anything except still life in an enclosure.

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Another thing.

>>2895280
Kinda nice, but chicken scratching and excessively thin legs ruin it. Oh, and never thought I'd have the chance to say this, but her hands are too big.

>>2895144
Any tablet recommendations at that price range?

Can someone give me a quick pep talk? I have zero energy

>>2895314
https://webmshare.com/BOzNx

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>>2895318

WOAAAAH!! BRING IT!. THANKS PAL.

>>2894531

No way feeling the form is going to take you 10 years, try random 3D forms out of 2D shapes by wrapping lines around them.

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Hey brand new beginner here, trying to alternate between the basic mechanics from Draw a Box and copying images using the visual techniques i've gotten from Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. Having a real tough time with the first lesson, my handwriting has always been disgusting, any tips? Is the acceptable for a beginner or am I not learning anything from this level of bad?

>>2895357
Keep at it. Takes time to get it and you might get muscle pains, that's normal. A week usually will get you pretty good. What are you getting into drawing for?

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Really need your help /ic/. This is my current level, I started going to an Atelier and this is what I made drawing from life, It's stil not very good, it has a lot of errors compared to the original and the shading isn't very well done, yet I'm not a total beginner either.

My aim is to become a digital artist, landscapes and characters, considering my current level what would you suggest me to do? What books and courses?
Also quite important, when should I make the switch to digital? I'm quite dogshit at drawing on it so I will need a lot of practice. Thanks

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>>2895362
This is how I draw from imagination using a bit of Loomis proportions. Agains, I really want to improve right now but I'm quite lost

>>2895359
Serious shoulder pain lol not used to it.

I want to learn to animate, was my dream as a kid but i've been telling myself I can't draw for 15 years.

Fuck it i'm trying now.

>>2895362
You should read the sticky for one, it answers all the questions people usually ask. Then come back and ask something if it didn't. I would check out Aguri's guide too if you want to see a more structured approach to the stuff you're talking about.

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imagimeme while doing fundies. maybe i bit off more than i can chew. is it better do work on simple busts to build confidence and practice or just jump into more complicated stuff?

>>2895371
I lurked here quite a lot before wanting to go all in with art. I've read the sticky but I've also seen people cticizing it a lot.
Anyway I'm particulary lost because I don't know my level, what fundamentals I stil lack and what I should work on, some books are too beginner tier while some other stuff seems too advanced

Also I need help with digital, when should I start going for it? Should I keep sticking with pencil and paper?

>>2895383
Lets start off by saying that nothing is too advanced, it's just a matter of whether or not you want to tackle it. A beginner could hit up curvilinear perspective if they want, it make them a lot of time, but it may also be really worth it. What I'm saying is, typically if it looks too advanced, it means you should attempt it because you're not going to exit your comfort zone.

With digital, you should just do it, if you want. There's no rules saying when you can do it and when not. It's just a tool. You can switch between the two if you want.

>>2895378
I have no idea what's going on your picture.

>>2895426
*in

>>2895426
so i should work on simplifying shape/gesture/action/focus/silhouette so everything reads better? or is anatomy/pose/perspective that bad?

it's supposed to be a sexually aggressive well endowed gay dragon maid on top of a flat chested shy nerd that could probably be replaced with a pillow.

>>2895470
I see. Then you have to work on... well, everything you have listed. Removing the unnecessary lines would also help a lot.

>>2895470
I don't know what's up with the other anon's eyes, but I could see what it was fine. Just finish it so we know you spent countless hours on something to properly crit it.

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how the fuck do i draw hair?

>>2895530
Using lines of action like you do for gestures is really helpful.

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What do you think of my Hisoka from HxH ?

>>2895530
dunno but go to the beginner thread

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>>2895560
this is what /beg/ has devolved to

>>2895470
take the drawing further, either clean the lines or paint it

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I went to the air force museum and drew this. I just can't get the perspective right when drawing complex objects.

>>2895550
Is his right arm gonna be okay? It's really thin...

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when i select all and delete something these square come up how do iget rid of them

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what do you guys think of this quick sketch

>>2895530
>scratchy lines
please stop that

>>2895598
its photoshop

>>2895602
forehead is too flat. mouth and jaw sticking out from under the nose. huge underbite. think about the skeletal structure of this person. quite deformed.

but nice lines.

>>2894033
You could tell them their linework and colors are terrible. It would look better with smoother, thicker lines, more thought could be put into picking colors. The hands, stylized or not, are much too large.You could also mention while they are alright at drawing folds in clothing and weight, they aren't very good at drawing the hair.

I guess it depends on how much 'style' they put into their art, but I'd always want someone to critique my art even though I draw cartoons. It's not going to destroy my 'style', but it's going to help me make a more realistic drawing.

Great cartoons have some degree of realism which makes them look like they could exist.

>>2895608
thanks man ill work on that

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hurt me /ic/
hurt me real good

>>2895657
Cute! I wonder what's going on through your mind that you're drawing knives though.

>>2895657
>tfw your eyebrows look like baseball caps

>>2894614
>Everyone is making fun of you
no, he unironically has great potential.

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guys

>>2895844
Yes, anon-kun?

>>2895849
all this practice and im still shit

>>2895815
>>2895815
>>2895815

>>2895860
Yeah, me too. I thought I was amazing until I finished a piece and realized this is it. What do we do now?