Alternative Art/Stylization General

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i know i broke her back

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I find picking a handful of shitty doodles from random pages and coloring/rendering them a bit is a good release exercise.

>>2888158
Enjoying the scene i'm gettin.

>>2888158
Just started studying colors and would love to know your painting process. What is the first thing you do?

>>2888158
Wow this is amazing. Especially the way the hair is painted and the pose, so fantastic. Do you have any other works I can check out? In fact, are you a freelancer? Absolutely beautiful anon. I hope to be able to do work on the same level as you one day. I just have to figure out how. What is your process?

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>>2888158
at least you are not on mioree levels when it comes to broken backs
(otherwise i do like her colouring style but this felt related)

>>2888318
>>2888327
thanks guys. no im not getting paid. i feel like if im gonna draw for money ill lose interest in that really quickly. here i have some, mostly sketches:
http://sladkiy-pirozhok.tumblr.com/
process is straght-forward:
roughly block-in silhouettes/big shapes in color (midtones) with no details (sometimes i block-in under low opacity sketch)
with soft brush create gradients on those blocks (need to decide which part will be lit by ambient light, which wont)
with hard brush create hard edges on top of it
on very top of it i draw lines to create contour or separate parts (like hair and skin on this image)
then im refining image, flip it, zoom out, searching for mistakes
then you can think about lighting setup (like add key light, or rim lights), you can do this with blending modes like multiply
and to finish a bit of blur and slight noise
>>2888326
as i mentioned before you need to block-in big shapes in color or grescale

>>2888401
im 10x better than you

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this is for a comm. any crit or advice apreciated.

>>2888330
i cant enjoy her work since i've seen some of her streams.
It's strange how artist's personality can affect people's perception of his work
also
>that cringy pose

>>2888401
Thanks, my nigga.

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something something wanna /ss/

darkest dungeon's style is actually a lot of fun to emulate

>>2888573
>a moon in the sky
But I thought darkest dungeon was underground

>>2888497
How are their personality?

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Composition advice?

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>>2888574
based it off of this

>>2888581
Damn boi, that's some good composition right there. Got me focused on that ass.

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Trying to do some robots and stuff this week but I'm really not good at it.

>>2888330
You should have watched enough porn or kpop by now to know women do this on purpose.

>>2888595
Little girls and mechas
Just my thing

>>2888603
So I'm going to work extra hard in this one just for you.

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wip

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>>2888595

>>2888581
I feel like there's a lot going on. Obviously the focus should be on the scene in the middle but my eye's jumping around from the boat to the field to what looks like a large lamppost. It's like there's no direction going from each of the corners of what's going on that it seems confusing.

>>2888757
your hands and eyes always trigger me. eyes are always poorly positioned and disproportionate and hands are so fucking flat and retardly fat. dont give me that muh style bullshit your shit hasn't improved in years.

>>2888957
>he has a job
>you don't
Really makes me think

>>2888960
why would i want a job when i freelance? does he burger flip or something? i wouldn't hire his garbage with that kind of quality, so you yeah keep thinking fagotron.

>>2888957
Could I get a redline for the eyes? I haven't rendered the raised hand yet, but I'll try to detail more of the values on it.

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>>2886554

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Latest drawing I made.

>>2889021

The girl does not adhere to the same perspective as the building. The figure is disproportionate as well but thats probably a placeholder?

>>2888158
Your colouring style looked very similar to Krenz's. Good job, I liked it.

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>>2888957
Played with some things- My other things I've started as well.

>>2889091
Thanks, I thought I've fixed the sculpture's perspective but I will try to see what I can do to adjust it. The small figure's just a placeholder btw, plan to do something more interesting later

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working with thin lines makes me want to kill myself

>>2889252
thats because you're using them wrong

>>2889255
how should I use them?

>>2889252
Bigger canvas/dpi.

>>2889271
not the way youre using them

>>2889300
thats not very helpful...
>>2889272
just a screenshot of a small part of the picture

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>>2889109
thanks. you are right, im inspiring by him, heres the one i drew last summer (referenced Krenz's "Horn")

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fuck the dip pen. It sucks. Technology has advanced a 1000 years since its invention. There is a reason why we have new modern pens and not everyone is using dip pens to write shit and draw.

>1 brush / dip - by the time i was figuring out the brush I got bored and the bug was ruined
>2 mangaka 02 - not as good as sakura micron
>3 staedtler 0.3 - the clear winner, this thing had the craziest texture while drawing, and it was super fast
>4 rotring 03 - too fat, this thing sucked, and my drawing sucked so that didn't help
>5 stabilo 03 - it was forgettable

i have like 8 more pens to try out, but I got bored. Maybe more tomorrow...

>>2889317
man, i really like your drawings. can i ask a question?
is this traditional or digital? did you use any references, and how much do you use them overall?

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>>2889338
These are traditional, I was trying various pens on copy paper.

>references
These are completely from reference. I'm not a very creative person especially when testing new tools. The bugs (1) and (2) were from photos. The others (3) (4) and (5) were from mech speed paints I found on Pinterest. And (6) was just a dumb box I drew.

>>2889342
even if they are copied your line work is very nice

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>>2889021
you've broken few laws

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Am i cool yet?

>>2889451
Gay af, but decent drawing.

>>2889459
N-no homo

>>2889317
get a fountain pen

>>2889430
dude how did you look over that flat hand on his leg

>>2889484
Your grinding is inspiring.

>>2889484
Blog? Do you do any red heads or purple heads as well?

>>2889545
degenerate

>>2889045
wtf is wrong with their eyes, please delete.

>>2889445
not same anon but do you have any tips in drawing perspective wise for backgrounds?

>>2889545
That is a redhead

>>2889445
It's 1:22am over here but before I sleep I just want to tell you anon that I really appreciate your redline, thanks!

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>>2889508
Drawing is fun, it's more fun to me than play video games or something like that, so to pass time I draw a lot.
>>2889545
I just have my shitty deviantart.
My work still kinda bad but if you like it i'm very happy with it.
http://lfall.deviantart.com/

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fuck im regressing

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sorry this is probably a dumb question
i'm trying to make it look like there's warm light coming from in front of her, but she's leaving a cool/dark environment
so there'd be cool tones on the shadows on her back and everything, right? or should they be warm to reflect the environment she's entering and the warm light that's illuminating the scene?

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>>2888447
update

>>2889688
>drawing is more fun than instant gratification

Explain how.

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>>2889814
Idk, anon, I just don't find so fun like drawing, I can't put in words in the right way, sorry.

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trying to do things quick

>>2889898
??????? English hello?

>>2889934
I'm a retarded fucker bad with words.

>>2889814
The joy you get from art should be the journey not the end results.

>>2889918
Are you that anon who didn't have a blog? Because I don't have yours bookmarked.

>>2890132
check here >>2888401

>>2889346
>>2889342
Agreed. Tableguy did you get to that level of linework, observation and construction solely by copying things?

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pose practice, no ref

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help im stupid
i just wanna go for those simple painterly renders

>>2890367
Cute stuff, mind if I use these as refs? I've always had trouble with these poses. There are some lewd poses though, I wonder what goes through your mind as you drew these.

>>2890347
>>2890321
>>2890318
Cute, I don't know if that's on purpose or not but watch out your proportions, for me the head is to small and the hands to big.
Even on purpose, that's kinda ugly and nothing appealing.

>>2890390
You can but, lol there are a lot of mistakes, be careful.

>>2889799
Legs seem a little too short

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could someone redline this (particularly the dick) or give me pointers on what to do with the dick?

>>2890523
But anon, thats the best part. Try focusing more on other things!

>>2890525
sure, what would you suggest i look at? i've been looking at this for too long and it was the dick that's been giving me the most frustration currently haha

>>2889799
Legs length, left arm too short, right arm 404, and to top it off... Nice head angle:>)

>>2890390
why is there always someone asking to use refs? do you contact the creator of each google image when you decide you need to look up a reference for something in your drawing???

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>>2890523
im just here for the dick cause i like drawing dicks

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Dosen't seem like I'll get any more out of this, so quickly finishing it up.

>>2890670
How does one get into the industry?

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what happened to this faggot
not the guy who drew the comic the artist being depicted in the comic
miku's rag or something what his name

>>2890673
gettin gud, dont stop grinding once you have a foothold and base off there to just keep on climbing towards your goals.

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i don t wanna study

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>>2890514
Fix the legs length

>>2890528
Te arm isnt short, i use a specific angle for that. change the head angle

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>>2889478
I don't have one of these... more tools for my collection...

>>2890155
Thanks! But I don't know how to answer your question. When I want to practice using tools I just copy. I can switch off my brain and just train the motor skills. If I see an artist with good pen work / inking, I just copy their work and try to absorb their nuances.

Example attached - I really like Monsta julien

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idk

>>2891196
austim face

I've never drawn from imagination before and I want to start. Anything that can help me? Some things I should know?

>>2891409
you start out doing iterations from diferent references, decide what to do and then plan how to help yourself do it with the refs

you can't start out drawing from imagination when you can't even place, planes, ovals, cilinders and boxes at your will on a 3D space

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>>2890382
I might be wrong but most of the people that paint in a painterly way, I have noticed they understand form very well hence why they only need as few as possible strokes and values to convey a 3d feeling.

Try doing monochrome photo studies and aim to do the same, you will have the advantage to have a clear reference. You might also try to render as much as you need and become more frugal eventually.

A gynoid sketch I made from an animu face I made the other day.

>>2891196
I really like this anon, saved for reference. Post more gadgets if you got them pls

>>2891572
>I might be wrong
yeah you are, couldn't be anymore wrong.
i only take legit advice, not your shit.

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>>2888147
hey guys
i'm working on a comic for art school application, thought i'd post it here, some crits would be appreciated.

>>2891652
He's not wrong about needing to understand form. Nobody in my uni knows how to be painterly, or how to paint, because they all can't draw for shit.

I would recommend to not focus on painting at all at your level. Put as much effort as you can in becoming a strong draftsman. Study Bridgman & Vilppu to learn anatomy, study perspective and get good at informal perspective(intuitive) as well. If you can't draw and represent form accurately through drawing, low chance of you being able to paint it, and if somehow you could, you wouldn't understand it.

>>2891714
Hmm... not the quoted anon but I'm drawing for almost 4 years and haven't gone into the painting stuff seriously yet, I was thinking it would improve my linework for some reason if I got into it.

Now I don't know what is what anymore.

>>2891717
No rules, just tools. Remember to have fun. If you try, you're likely to succeed.

>>2890651
thanks, much appreciated!

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>>2891719
>If you try, you're likely to succeed.

>>2891717
If you want to improve your linework, why don't you just develop a style similar to comics or manga? Study drawings more? Study Moebius, T.S. Sullivant, James Montgomery Flagg, Iain Mccaig, Otomo, etc. literally anyone good. Get into real traditional pen&ink with a nib, you'll learn a lot and develop some aesthetic taste in line.

However, if draftsmanship is what is really your problem, painting or drawing can both improve it. Is it really linework that is your problem, or is it your draftsmanship holding you back? A lot of asian digital painters create a clean and highly-understandable line drawing before laying down any digital paint, and they end up with very clean paintings this way. General draftsmanship ability should constantly be rising regardless of your medium just by focusing and not being complacent.

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>>2891892
Yeah, I meant being able to draw like pic related.

I don't know how quite well describe it, but his sketches convey so much form even though it's just some linework with almost no shading.

These are not final illustrations and not 100% accurate, in fact I bet /ic/ could spend all day pointing errors everyfuckingwhere, but I really wanted to know what to practice to learn the concepts of doing sketches so well. Those lines make me cum.

>>2891929
Right? How does it do it? How does the artist convey form without rendering? Just lines! Insane!

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>>2891932
Am I being being memed?

>>2891572
thanks senpai thats a pretty good idea
will try

also shes very cute but considering how realistic her proportions are her eyes might be a big too big imo

>>2891932
>>2891938
>>2891929
line weight is the answer fagoli.

>>2891962
That's like saying value change is the answer to convey form, I still have to grind 9000 hours until something clicks when I'm drawing.

>>2891968
or you can read a book nigga.or study people.
but no seriously line weight indicates where form shadow should be . also heaft of form and so on, like if an object is heavy at a certain point that line would be darker, or if its on the outside it should be wider than interior lines of the form.

>>2891929
The important thing for this kind of work is the subtle rhythm of the lines and the increase in line-weight where lines intersect.. If you miss the subtle flex/bends of the lines it is completely ruined. If you look at Yoh Yoshinari's sketches you'll see a similar thing occur, but in a different style.

The rhythm is what makes it believable. If you were to simplify the lines it would ruin this. A good, clean and meticulous face drawing is also important (but you draw the full figure before doing this, otherwise the head won't relate with the body). Eyes gotta be cash or you're fucked. You gotta be a fucking hard-ass on yourself with faces, flipping the canvas every minute or so, and focusing on the eyes to make sure they resemble each other strongly and are stylized beautifully.

This sort of style follows some principles of anatomy, but anatomical understanding is very much in service to what the artist finds to be an appealing and believable line. This applies as well to drapery and clothing. It's clearly based on how drapery tends to work but is slightly stylized.

The feeling of space occurs also because the characters are inhabiting a space with foreshortening and different directions of forms, as well as the particular placement of the important elements compositionally. Overlapping parts of the figure also helps this. Good drawing isn't enough if you want a drawing with really believable form, the particular arrangement can really influence if the drawing is just good or great.

>>2891968
for instance notice in that post that the lines on the inside are thinner than those on the outside of the form? thats line weight. notice how her arm next to her head on left has a thick line and the hair has a thin line then the face has a thick line? that is line weight to delineate form. look for more examples.

>>2891971
^also this is true as well.

>>2891970
>like if an object is heavy at a certain point that line would be darker, or if its on the outside it should be wider than interior lines of the form.
Oh yeah, this was in draw a box and I think Loomis said this too.

>>2891970
>>2891971
>>2891972
So, knowing that, I would not be retarded to assume if I study painting I could understand more about lineweight, right? I would be more used to knowing and calculating light and shadow areas, and all that fucked stuff.

>>2891976
line weight is more of a drawing thing than a painting thing, that has to do more with edges.

>>2891971
Good post, saved. Japanese artists who can do this are seriously impressive.

>>2891981
Thanks. http://imgur.com/a/ipCJF
I found this book by Alphonse Mucha recently. His sketches remind me of how Yoshinari draws sometimes. Mucha was really into rhythms of lines.

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>>2892044
>you will never have a coffee time with your favorite artist and talk about art

>>2891652 definitely not this guy >>2890382 because he is way too confident for such little skill, no way would he deny advice this harsh.
>>2891652 he is probably just some edgy shit lord hating on firez.

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Not really my usual style but really fun to play with.

>>2892244
The girl and the robo bird aren't on the same ground plane. Gotta think about the distance they occupy in space. You can tell from the leash the girl holds that the bird must be fairly close in front of her, but its feet are way in the distance.

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some crappy doodles

>>2890651
Sounds weird, but I never though of dickheads that way.
Thanks, anon!

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>>2891678
Sorry for writing and drawing all over the place, but I think you're on a good track with some adjustments here and there.

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>>2891929
My heart skipped for a second there I thought this was Firez's

>>2892412
Should say "How large is this object?", not "why".

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>>2891976
Just study light sources and pic related, then you'll understand. It will click if you doodle enough.

>>2888147
WIP

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>>2892576
ups forgot to add pic

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Why is cloth so hard

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>>2892324
This fixed it, right?

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>>2892651

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i keep forgetting to post here too

>>2892660
C-cute!!!
Do you have a blog I can follow you and perhaps learn your ways?

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>>2892655

>>2892661
im not sure how much you'll learn but sure

godsh0t.tumblr.com

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Just got a tablet. Went over one of my old drawings that I scanned.
Still trying to tune in all the settings and get used to it.

Fixed a few mistakes. I know the hands still suck. Anything else that's glaringly noticeable?

>>2892044
What book is this?

>>2889799
Yare Yare daze

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Work in progress, on the brink of giving up so I can practice on something else. Any thoughts?

>>2893211
I'm not really sure what those straw things next to her, but I really like it. Girl is really cute, her legs and arms are well done. Her feet aren't monsterous and her hands are right too. The color of her skin isn't too bright or too dark either. By the way, are you that anon who drew a fan?

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>>2892660
now with more smug

>>2893240
Hey anon, how does one begin to get into the business of getting money from their art? Do you just draw you want now or are you drawing for something specific?

>>2893243
I dunno, I just kind of drew whatever I wanted at the beginning. Stream to picarto/twitch. Get yourself on social media like twitter, tumblr or whatever. The more art you put out there the higher chance someone might come around, like your work and ask for a commission. I'm by no means popular or anything of sort so I'm not sure how seriously you can take my advice. If you want a more streamlined approach to quickly getting paid to draw, it's basically just an exercise in marketing, maybe drawing some niche stuff to get your name circulating in places. Of course drawing popular stuff too will get your name out there as well. I don't do this professionally though, so I just kind of draw whatever I want.

Now when it comes to selling at an artist alley or something, that's something completely different. Ideally you'd like to draw something you like that's also popular but sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and draw something you know will sell versus something that you like but won't sell at all.

>>2892704
i like it a lot within what it is

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>>2892414
Oh you <3

>>2893263
firez if you do porn again i will kill your mother. She has already told me she would rather die than have an impure son.

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>>2892412
thanks a lot for taking time for all this!
i'll go through all the stuff you mentioned
so.. is the chaser being in the bg a bad thing? maybe i should flip that whole panel horizontally so the flow goes from the chaser to the protag?
the plant tentacle instead of the rock makes perfect sense, i'll make sure to change that, i was planning to place random rocks around on the ground but it makes much more sense this way
for the bouncing thing.. that stuff is supposed to be some kind of fruit, kinda soft, so i suppose it's not going to bounce away too much, maybe it would roll, but its shape doesnt really allow it to do that
the chaser is not very far from him to begin with so that fallig - grabbing the object - putting it back into his bag action is supposed to happen quickly, the chaser gets closer to him just a few meters, so he's just falling, then grabbing the stuff very quickly and continues to run away
the panel he's reaching for the fruit - it is out of scale indeed, the correct size would be size on the panels before and after, around the size that would fit in his hand. i'm aware that his face being misshapen, i'll need to fix that.
those things are not textboxes, i just broke up the bg there to get a more interesting look and break the monotonity of the uniform panels, is it a bad idea?
the conveyer belt is only supposed to change direction, not going steep, also, i'm planning on adding the main char running towards the hole into that panel.
the hole, are you refering to it being out of perspective or is the scene just unclear? the whole stuff is supposed to take place under some kind of transparent hemisphere which he exits through that hole
in the end, it's supposed to be a container, which he manages to grab and climb into

i've worked on the last ones, here's what i got so far

thanks again for the detailed critique!

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>>2893240
heh, those books

>>2893263
learn how to draw feet...

>>2893311
There is nothing wrong with those feet, retard.

>>2893263
>tfw her face was lewd
>now it's like she's being tickled and laughing uncontrollably to the point she's tearing up

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>>2893215
Yes, as a matter of fact. I didn't know what to prop her up, to leave light coming from behind, so I had some fun.

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By the way, are realistic Sucys allowed here too? It's tangentially related, and today's practice.
>>2893263
Looks fantastic, as usual. The expression really gets me, too. I wish I had the nerve to draw such gorgeous lewds. Anatomy looks fine, and only barely iffy on the top right corner's foot.

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What should the recent of her clothing look like?
My visual library for fashion is very limited. Preferably cold colors.
General critique welcome too I guess.

>>2893944
naiss
what's that brush?

>>2893963
Suppose to be a SAI like brush. Downloaded from the csp marketplace thing, it's in Japanese so I dont know what the actual name is.

>>2893984
could you by any chance upload it somewhere maybe? i really like the looks of it

>work sketch and lineart on the same layer
am I a mad man or is this not as awful as it makes me feel it is?

>>2894410
I do it, but I don't know if it's because I used to paint on one layer.

>>2894410
Nah, I feel more comfortable doing that as opposed to making the lineart on a different layer and the results are better, too.

>>2894410
why not just make a new layer? you can always merge them if you want anyway..

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Please, please answer or say something ic

Vaguely inspired by moana I won't lie

>>2894416
I have the same painting one layer comfort zone background as >>2894412 so I feel like I'm approaching drawing and lineart as if it was a painting but the problem is that it takes a whole lot of time to finish a drawing. Do you guys have problems with speed because of this or am I just a turtle?

>>2894413
>>2894412
Do you have problems with speed?

Sometimes I feel like I'm painting instead of drawing

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Could I get thoughts possibly a red line on this?

>>2894432
try improving your gesture

it looks pretty stiff for an action pose

>>2894430
>Do you have problems with speed?
Definitely, but that has more to do with me being a perfectionist rather than what the other anon said about having the same mindset as when one is painting.

>>2894432
>that fucking head
Might want to downsize so your girl has a neck. The breast arm is too thin, also, and one of the hands is A GRAT BIG ONE

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Still pretty new at this drawing thing but I decided to try and draw Super Pochaco as a test. Any suggestions or tips?

>>2894592
Looks like a Loli version of her to be honest desu

Cute

>>2894596
Loli version? Huh. Not what I was going for but I don't mind. What makes it seem loli?

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How can someone be drawing manga for more than 100 chapters, and still draw this badly?

>>2894608
Endless deadlines
No time to do studies

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Do(Not)AdjustYourDogma

>>2893299
i only realize the colors i picked for those books until after i had thrown them in haha

>>2894828
Oh interesting style this time.

>>2894828
I honestly don't understand the purpose of you posting here.

>>2894832
what's the problem?

>>2894828
Have you done any full body poses? I always just see the "statue bust" kind of focus from you.

>>2894838
i did many poses last year, but struggle to detail their outfits (clothes/armor/etc) so its all sketchy

>>2894861
Oh yeah, that's always a struggle. But how much improvement can you reach in faces? I'd hate to see your talent burn out when you tire of this.

>>2894835
youre too great

>>2894878
fuck u, u shitty artist, praising another shitty artist

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>>2894828

>>2894887
absolutely true. stylization general as it is

>>2894608
time constraints. comics are high risk low reward

>>2894887
link your work?

>>2894420
Mate, I'm in a good mood so I won't be shitty.
It's generally too dark, you must push your values.
You seem to be aware of collarbones, the sternomastoid, and ribcage, so it's fantastic that you're aware of anatomy. Keep that up!
The hair is a goddamned mess but frankly I am not skilled enough in drawing to offer any substantial crit. Basically it looks like something flat you slapped on the drawing rather than a 3d form like the body is.
The extremely pointy titties and narrow eye are not appealing to me, but that may be a matter of preference rather than objective artistic critique, so idk.
Good luck, Anonymous.

>>2894592
Disgusting tiddies and belly. Not even oriented properly. Come on, Anonymous! Get your shit together!

>>2889021
Really cool concept!

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Help, I know shit is wrong but don't know what.

>>2895115
Her eyes look like she's a corpse and not looking at anything, she could be looking at what she does
We don't understand what she's doing with whatever is in her hand
If she's holding a spoon, please google a "hand holding spoon" reference
You tried so hard to draw her tits through her clothes that it just looks weird and unnatural, especially for their size
Upper body is too log, he looks kinda pregnant also
Try to draw her naked, holding her spoon and her bucket, then add clothes
the bucket looks like a giant muffin but it's because you screwed up the upper part

that's all i see

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>>2895136
>Try to draw her naked, holding her spoon and her bucket

I did it, kek.

Thanks, gonna draw fucking buckets for a week now.

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>>2893283
I would recommend that you'd flip. Also, the protags face in the first panel looks very smug, not distressed.

With the guard established as to how far away from MC is on the first panel, I would imagine him gaining enough momentum to catch him after he fell over. The distance of the two seems unchanged in the other chase panel, so I'd either change the distance of the first panel between the two or make the guard comical like as he's struggling to getting caught up (facial expression is important here).

The "textbox" thing that I mentioned would look good with colors of the background or a tone of mood.

One the hole, I didn't figure how he slid out of it, since the size of it made unclear.

I just noticed that the container door was open, so I messed up the order of progress in my explanation (discard that purple outlining). I would however mention that the angle of that first panel doesn't clearly emphasize the escape route and the oncoming "end of the line" at the end of the belt. If you isolate the MC, the container door, and the belt end (see pic related), you'll get more weight of the right side of the panel due to the building contra where the MC slid down from. Can consider cutting some of it, but that is a large nickpick from my end.

Good luck.

>>2893283
>>2895265
Scratch that last part with pic related. I noticed on panel 10 of the building, the conveyer belt continues in to the the factory building.
Panel 13, which is pic related had the belt ending, creating a continuity error.

>>2891971
>increase in line-weight where lines intersect
Not really. I know the REAL secret but I wouldn't just give it out. Maybe if we're in the same circle :^)

>>2892437
that pic is not even close to how people actually decide on thickening the lines. most artists keep that as secret ;) even those streamers are so silent about the trick.

>>2893240
are you a fan of alphonse?
Great work.
I like the hint of greens but those legs and arm aren't close to what I expected.

>>2893211
I saved your art and I look forward to your art.
Got drawing tablet yet?

>>2894432
How long did you draw? Redraw same pose but with feeling of fun and action not just 'drawing for drawing'

>>2894608
"no revision just publish" no editors or bad editors
workforce exploited by manufacturers who get all them bucks (because they buy it anyway). shonen is a fuck. doujin(18+) life is best life.

>>2894828
<3<3

>>2895115
looks like pregnant because torso is longer than expected OR the arms and neck are a bit short making the body not applicable to those loli arms and face.
eye pupils are supposed to go at the back not at the top/tip of the eyes! push them back!
hair should be more spherical not flat and bangs should follow a curve. keep in mind hair is the life of feminine characters (even feminine boys mind you)
practice drawing hands more. you don't have time for referencing all hand poses so practice by imagination and toss aside what feels wrong until you learn through feeling
the shirt isn't good.
dead stare
boobs looks like my elem grade drawings (I think you wanted to draw her as flat chest, just go for it!)
pot's butt is pointy
and complete the ears! -- this helps a lot.

I look forward to criticizing your revision. If it's too much work start from scratch with the same pose.

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Will try to adjust the hands and hair tomorrow

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>>2895273
>eye pupils are supposed to go at the back not at the top/tip of the eyes! push them back!

I'm so fucking sorry for being retarded, but what does that mean? How do I fix this point?

>>2892212
yeah that happens, its a givan. the other anon thanked them for the advice if you followed the branch

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>>2895281
pupils are concave and the membrane that covers them is the part that comes outward and reflects light

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>>2895291
here's an example

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sketch

>>2895302
Nice to see something that's not full frontal view from you. But stop putting the eye right next to the ear.

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>>2895291
>>2895298

I see...

>>2895273
Yeah alphonse is a pretty big influence for me, pretty big fan of his colors but I don't have nearly as economical brush strokes as he does. Thanks for the crit too.

>>2895273
>How long did you draw? Redraw same pose but with feeling of fun and action not just 'drawing for drawing'
I spent most of yesterday doing that.
>fun
>past childhood
lolkay

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>>2895273
>>2894579
>>2894444


Made some changes, please let me know what you think.

>>2895302
Wonderful, I'm glad to see you didn't quit. Wide eyed style gives me nostalgia.

>>2888583
>>2888573
what's with the bird mask? it's so overused and i hate it.

>>2889445
you just outlined his drawing lol, that's not how redlining works

>>2895748
Better, yes. What are you basing this off of?

>>2895748
lel what the fuck is this shit

>>2895748
Looking suave. Hope to see you render her.

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>>2895771
not today anon, I can't take the bullying today

>>2895790
then try explaining how you made this pose

>>2895790
show me your pantsu den

>>2892348
how do ya practice boy
do ya do figure studies
what do ya do
tell me boy

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>>2895790
Smudge a better image into paper with your tears.

>>2895748
body looks better now just fix the face

>>2892348
>>2894828
While these doodles are made to look effortless, my question is are they actually effortless? How many sketches are not being shown? And if these actually take 5min or less to draw, what else is going on in this anon's time? Or do they actually take much longer and we just don't know?

I imagine anon to sit down for 20 min, blow out some sketches, post, then have 7hrs left in the day... So many unknown unknowns.

I have to know the secret to this magic trick.

>>2895903
Aren't you jealous that we'll never be on that anon's level?

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>>2895265
Thanks again!
Here's an update, didn't fix every issue you mentioned yet, but this is what i have so far

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>>2895893
How do I fix the face? Whats wrong? Too many lines so it looks older?
>>2895852
I went and ran instead, took my anemic rage out on the trail, crying into the wind with every galloping stride.
>>2895845
lewd
>>2895800
I used another artists work as a reference. All my work looks 'stiff, autistic, life less'. I really can't do action very well because I lack skill to some extent but also because I'm dead inside.

>>2895905
I'm not sure if it is jealousy, I just want to know if I'm witnessing witchcraft or if it is humanly possible to have 100% of my sketches look amazing - this has always been my goal, but it seems so far from being realized.

It's like this anon is posting pages out of an Imashi art book, and even then I wonder how many of imashi's sketches make it into that book? What is the sketch attrition rate?

>>2895958
>comparing anon to Imaishi
Nigga you blind?

Not to diss on anon his work is fantastic, but comparing the two just don't sit well with me.

>>2895903
>>2895905
fucking normies/samefag

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>>2895955
You are trying and that's where the improvement comes anon. To fix your stiff poses I recommend you watch vilppu, after a few videos you'll be drawing less stiff figures

>How do I fix the face?
Your face is full of symbol drawing and you need to read loomis, practice a bit with the asaro head and watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

The head is an important part of every figure drawing and it can make or break it so learning how to make it look good is important. Once you learn the basics of how to do it and proportion you can add animu on top of it if you want

>>2896002
RECORD YOUR COLORING & LIGHTING PROCESS HOLY SHIT

>>2895966
Sorry bad comparison. I meant it mostly that the presentation of both drawing styles bring up the same questions in my head not that one is comparable in skill to the other

>>2895970
>Your face is full of symbol drawing
No its not. Red line it and prove it.

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>>2896012

>>2891652
not gonna make it. Might as well do everyone a favor and kill yourself

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crits are welcomed pls. I fee like there is some major error i dont see :/

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u.u

>>2896041
Do you draw legs?

>>2896002
What do you do when you're feeling frustrated?

>>2896042
No!

>>2896045
But why not

>>2896046
becoz

>>2896046
I lost my legs in an accident and I feel miserable and depressed when I see legs, hence is the reason as to why I never go outside, as I feel like killing myself everytime I see a normal 2 legged human being walking on the street. ;w;

>>2896047
Becoz what

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>>2896030
Well thats what I posted, the layer that I turned off is essentially a wire mesh drawing containing a skull and dental cylinder. So before I render do I need to include some value or something so I dont get accused of symbol drawing? Because I am not just drawing symbols.

I appreciate you taking your time to help me out, I really do and thank you for that. I genuinely want to get better and I as I do improve it gets harder to see mistakes because they become smaller, where as the worse you are the easier it becomes to see problems.

>>2896044
I draw giant lolis of course

>>2896074
Makes sense.

>>2896051
Oh.

But then why don't you draw arms?

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>>2896074
What does it look like when THEY get frustrated?

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>>2896106

>>2896060
That looks better but mouths don't have outlines senpai! Take a good look at 2B's mouth to see how it really is and draw it. Mouths should be expressed with form and value because there aren't really lines there just meat

You can do it!

>>2896123
Yeah alright, well I was mostly going to do that when I render it. Thanks again for taking time to help, and I appreciate your encouragement. Thanks.

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>>2896114
wants cock XDD

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Playing around with an idea.

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>>2896155
Not my usual cup of loli, but looks fine. I'm sure you know to clean up line thickness when you put in final lighting, and I'm guessing the orc proportions are intentionally squat. Good job.

>>2896144
Oh yeah, on this subject, I can't decide what she should be sitting on. I just know I want something tube-shaped for subtle phallus-craving tones.

>>2896155
How do you do so much detail? Is your mind special?

>>2896166
A rolled up blanket

>>2896166
a giant throbbing veiny uncut penis

>>2896177
Oho, that's pretty good. I can set up forms, but I can never decide what to do for props or backgrounds.
>>2896181
They'd never see it coming.
;^)

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i finally drew something from imagination

color time

>>2896184
The top left-most pair looks like it'd put an eye out, my man.

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>>2896087
well anon, I know it's hard to believe, but I lost both my arms fighting off crocodiles in the Nile river, and so I draw with my meowth now.

>>2894592

I got a fetish for bad anatomy, you go over that digitally and i'd probably fap.

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>>2896040
>Thumbnail

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It is said that if too many bones are piled together they act as a conduit for minor Wraiths to manifest.

>>2896275
Interesting, where can I see more lore like such?

>>2896275
i love it

>>2896275
How many is too many?

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>>2896184
i can't decide if I want to black out the entire background for space... going to eat food and ruminate on it

>>2896190
i only know how to draw hard edges...

>>2896286
This art style seems familiar. Are you that guy that draws a lot of faces

>>2896289
i never draw faces, so that probably isn't me. I do make a daily effort to post around here

>>2895937
Great shit, dude. Hope to see the final product and gl w/ the application.

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>>2896074
You make me smile every time, anon.

>>2896002
I've noticed that you use thicker lines for sketching, any tips on how to polish your sketch to a more finished state with thick lines? Do you paint on top of the line drawing directly or the other way around?

>>2896317
The thick lines are a bad habit of mine more than anything. Yeah, for the final I usually just paint over the lines.

>>2896232
Do you also happen to have a fetish for QUALITY scenes/shots in animated series?

>>2892348
>crappy
thats an understatement. theyre shitty.

>>2896460
Damn he brought out the s word

>>2896460
wew, I thought I was the only one with "average standards"

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>>2896286
last update - this paper sucks for giant ink wash

also my skill is just not up to par

I wish I made the purple panties teal and the teal panties purple

>>2896074
Do you consider yourself a pedophile?

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>>2888857
>mono-eye robot
Good start, anon.

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>>2896276
http://slipperylizard.tumblr.com/tagged/fantasy/

>>2896277
Thank you so much!

>>2896279
Just a few but less than a couple

>>2896159
Yeah, line thickness is not even accounted for yet, I just sketch in thick lines by habit, and thank you.
>>2896172
A normal mind so far as I know, I just enjoy details.

>>2896155
Pretty gudd, but the eye level here makes it look more like the people are miniature and the ogre is normal sized.

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>>2896663
Oh boy, it's a "backstory" episode.

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>>2888147

>>2896947
dafuq is that thing, almost made me spill my coffee all over my labtop

>>2896266
Nice but the torso is huge compared to his head

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>>2896298
thanks mate!
here's the first page, mostly finished, i only have a few days left so i'm wrapping it up soon

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Any suggestions before I start rendering?

>>2897243
that pose makes no sense unless it is the last moment before she's falling back, which could make sense if she'd be dodging a blade for example

>>2897251
Oh yeah let me just start over, because it doesn't make sense to a anonymous autist on 4chan.

>>2897275
stop posting you fucking retard, clearly you dont want any criticism
your piece is trash and so you are

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>>2897278
>le ebig roast xDDD

>>2897300
>>2897275
He's right though, she should be more in a 'squat' position, now it looks like she's falling over.

>>2897243
you're way too concerned with constructing the individual parts that you've forgotten to consider how the shapes look when they're together

you need to work more loosely from the beginning sketch stages; the goal there is to capture the flow and energy you want to convey, not necessarily accuracy.

right now you're trying to apply principles of proportion and perspective to an already stiff piece which is stiffening it up even more

it sucks but you should really reconsider and try again, one of the big parts of being an artist is being able to let go when something isn't working

>>2895044
Alright. So work on orientation and no disgusting fat belly and tits until i get better at normal bodies. I'l keep at it even though I like droopy tits.

>>2896232
Well hell at least I almost got one person off. That's better than nothing.

>>2897243
The crit you've gotten is correct though. Listen to it you massive fag. Start over, draw the line of action first. Then build upon it. The pose just doesn't make any sense in its current form. Look at a bunch of references and look for the line of action if you don't know where to start

It's perfectly fine starting over and I know how shit it must feel to let go of something you wasted so much time on. But you must. Scrap that shit

>>2896979
what did you feel?

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Can someone help me redline the torso? I can't get the volume right.

Also want to transition to digital; I want to import my pen/pencil drawings to a digital canvas then paint over it.
Is GIMP as good as photoshop? It's free...

>>2897534
Blog?

>>2897754
http://asianfemaleeatingfooditems.tumblr.com/

there's nothing recent on it though, I've just gotten back into drawing the past few days

new thread kids - make it count
>>2897787
>>2897787
>>2897787

>>2897233
Take note the position of the handbag, as the first panel it's shown to be on the right shoulder, but switches over to the left at the 4th, then back at the 5th.

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>>2897243
I don't have my setup atm, but your proportions are off as fuck with the blade arm.

Keep at it though.

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>>2897243
pic related

Uninteresting model/ref or imagination/pose. I'm sure you can't into dancing.
torso or whole body too big for the face
large womyn (c) america
super long arms that even overlap the head length (is she 7 feet tall?)
wtf collar bone
robot / cartoon hands
not so straight sword
wrong facial lines and mouth outline is wtf (looks like old man)
cheeks stung by wasps
thicc but not cute (unless you're into feminism my western foe)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rYZLkW8Z78