/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

>>2885811
>posing like this
For what reason?

>>2885820
>>2885811
That's too hilarious.

Drawing right now isnt very rewarding for me since im not very good at drawing so i figured i would improve more if i could reward myself for practicing. I went shopping earlier today and bought a ton of snacks and i could eat one for every hour of practice i did. I ate everything before i even began practice and now im too full to draw. Has anyone tried implementing a reward system like this? How do you stop yourself from eating everything?

>>2885820
So you don't notice that he only has four fingers.

>>2885829
>How do you stop yourself from eating everything?
Self-discipline and self-respect. I don't have it either.

>>2885829
Stop being a fucking fat ass.

>>2885829

The best way to stop yourself from eating big amounts of sugars, is to not buy them in the first place. You cannot eat what's not there. I think meditating and facing your boredom head on is going to be more beneficial to you. In fact, heading straight on for the stuff you don't want to do and forcing yourself to do will spike your adrenaline and dopamine levels, making you want to stay once you actually begin.


There's no easy cheats for this, you gotta grind like you mean it, even if you don't like it at first.

>>2885829
https://youtu.be/Ow0lr63y4Mw

>>2885835
>>2885838
>>2885843
>>2885847
All right thanks guys ill get started tomorrow

>>2885850

>ill get started tomorrow


Why not right now?

>>2885850
>ll right thanks guys ill get started tomorrow
We both know that you'll be saying the same thing tomorrow and after tomorrow.

>>2885850
ngmi

>>2885851
I cant draw right now. Im full

>>2885852
Nope im gonna do it tomorrow

>>2885850
You can draw at this very moment, anon.

>>2885855
>I cant draw right now. Im full

That's some bullshit excuse, you better get your pen and start drawing right now. Give me 20 cubes in point perspective fully shaded in a 1-2-3 read all of them with different textures, make sure you choose a focal point for them.

PRONTO.

>>2885858
Tomorrow for sure

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How is this

As a beginner (not complete beginner, I finished Loomis and a bit of anatomy and I do the drawabox exercises daily) Would I benefit more from doing many quick life drawing sketches / gesture drawings or doing only a few but doing them very thoroughly? Should I focus on quantity to get as much exercise in a short amount as possible or should I rather focus on quality?

>>2885863

Post your work, it's worth more than a thousand words.

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>>2885829
>I went shopping earlier today and bought a ton of snacks and i could eat one for every hour of practice i did. I ate everything before i even began practice and now im too full to draw.

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Reposting from the last thread, since everyone's over here now. Reference from previous thread.

>>2884358

Did I do good, d/ic/ks?

Any advice for hair? I'm currently drawing the hair as if there were no light source and then using an eraser to lighten where the light hits. Lips are also challenging.

>>2885860

Every time you betray yourself, you lose motivation and self control. Great masters are made through pain and sacrifice, not comfort and avoidance. If you draw today, even when you've given yourself excuses, you'll give yourself a very good boost to your morale and self esteem, which will commence a series of positive behaviors in you that'll cause you to acquire momentum and put in even more effort and time into this, sort of like a rolling ball going downhill.
It's your call, but take this seriously.

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>>2885868
This is literally me.
>Coming home, buying a can of energy drink, and something sweet. (like a chocolate) with the idea to eat/drink while I draw. Sit on pc, shitpost on 4chan while eating chocolate in 5 minutes, go to sleep
NGMI

>>2885860
Fuckin top kek

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>>2885807
I'm a noob
decided to draw this
rate me

>>2885902
simply epic

>>2885874

It's a good attempt, friend but I see symbol drawing in the eyes, ears and chin and nose. The hairline seems to be flat too, while on the reference has volume

>>2885868
>>2885829
Fuck, I'm sorry, but that is the funniest thing I have read/seen all day.

>>2885906
thankyou
is it not too simple
I find myself lazy when drawing and can't do details such as shading
I guess I just have to build up to that level with practice

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>>2885902
I also drew this picture not too long ago
>>2885751

>>2885919

(you)

(you)

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(you)

Reminder that actual artists didnt "grind fundies." You would actually draw more, improve faster, and have more fun by putting down the books and drawing what interests you.

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>>2885944

>Reminder that actual artists didnt "grind fundies.

Citation needed

>>2885948
Hes right, actual artists were born with the talent. They didn't have to clock in thousands of hours to be good

>>2885954
Not at all what i said

>>2885954

Excuse, I want citations for what the other person claimed, not to get involved in another, separate argument for the lolz. But I'll tell you this, even if you're born with no talent for art, grinding fundamentals is a sure-fire way to get better. If you do have talent, grinding fundamentals is an even more sure-fire way to get better.


Either way grinding fundamentals gets you good.

>>2885954
blame the public education system

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>>2885867
>>2885863
Alright 5 minute gesture drawings on tablet, a perspective exercise and a drawing done on paper, all still horrible. What would be the most efficient way for me to improve?

>>2885874
It's coming along nicely. You could if you want to push your darks more. It'll make the picture look nicer. The back for example is almost all black on the right side and there are plane changes in the middle and left side of the back. On yours, you can't really tell the definition of the back.

The face is not quite accurate. You resorted back to symbol drawing on the eyes, nose and lips. Remember to pay attention to the changes in shading. Above and underneath the eye you have core shadow because it's facing away from the light. The eyelid is slightly being hit by light. The bottom line of the eye has rim light.

The angle of the nose and forehead are not correct. The nose should protrude out more. The shadows are also not accurate. The lip needs to be cleaned up and have a cast shadow underneath., but the shape looks correct to me. The upper lip is mid tone, the inside of the mouth is a darker tone, the lower lip is in light and as it turns away from the light it gets darker. The face can also be darkened some.

I think that's it. You did the ear really well. The hair, you just gotta push the darks more and it will look better. There's a lot of black there that you can put in.

Also, resize a bit next time so that your picture will be easier to look at as a whole.

Can I learn everything i need to know about perspective from "perspective made easy"?

>>2885999
You're really good at drawing those boxes. Might want to actually apply them onto your figures.

>>2886020
You never stop learning.

>>2886020

Depends on your goals, if you want to design shit then no. You also need Scott Robertson

>>2886024
Ok. But can i get a hold of it and understand it by this book?

>>2886028
That's up to you, anon whether or not you want to. The book isn't magic, you just gotta draw

>>2886027
My goal is figure drawing. Do i need robertson stuff?

>>2886029
Of course i'll draw. It's just i don't have the speed orspace to Erik O.stuff

>>2886036

No, Hampton will suffice

>>2885593
>> doesn't get that "seemed impossible" means the past
I wonder who's more retarded.

>>2885651
>>2885645
Well, I had copied some skulls last month and anons told me they were good enough. I also made a reverse drawing of that image with the long neck, and it turned out pretty true to the original. As a result, I got overly confident. After completing (painting over) the portrait, I looked at the references again and suddenly realized something very important about the relative positions of eyes and nose, which I totally missed.

>>2885953
Dude, why the hell can't I give my waifu any hairstyle I wanna see?! Naturally wavy hair could be straightened and vice versa.

>>2886043
No, wait, I copied the skulls in January, but who the fuck cares.

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Please give me critique

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Anyone else doing construction exercises tonight? There was some Anon that was going to make a bridge like a week ago but not sure if he posted it or not

Alright, can someone explain composition to me? I just read through the sticky and have a basic grasp of the other fundamentals but I'm not entirely sure what composition is. Is it like the flow of a drawing, if that makes sense?

Also is drawabox a solid resource?

>>2886055
I thought you guys died. Why did you construction anons disappear for so long?

>>2886059
>Also is drawabox a solid resource?

No, read the books in the sticky before it.

>>2886059
Yeah, got it right here for you,

https://youtu.be/O8i7OKbWmRM

>>2886063

I decided to take a week off and grinding Dynamic Sketching by Peter Han, not sure about the other Anons. Hopefully they've been productive!

>>2886067
Got it.

>>2886068
Thanks, this looks great.

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>>2885807
>Didn't draw at all in february.
>Mfw thinking about all those gains I didn't make due to pure laziness.

Pls kill me.

>>2886123
It's alright, we all need breaks sometimes. It allows us to come back with a fresher mind.

>>2886123
Shade it darker! The drawing will improve a lot if you do.

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>>2886126
Yeah, I think you're right, it might also be related to the fact that a I did a fuckton of drawings on january so I kinda burned myself out, it's nice to be back though.

>>2886144
Is this dark enough m8? I always fail at shading because I'm afraid I'll make it too dark or something, gotta keep working on that.

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Anyone have any advise on how I can get past this point to finish a drawing? I'm feeling stuck.

>>2886156
Do you not think in color or something?

>>2886156
Your construction is pretty fucking solid, anon.

>>2886055
What is this construction drawing you're referring to? I'm new to this board, and this type of drawing is what I'm interested in pursuing.

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i've been working on lighting and toning recently

>>2886052
Please respond.

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would much appreciate a crit on this.

I keep getting this feeling that there's something off about this, but its beyond me as to tell what that is.

a fresh set of eyes might spot something obvious I've missed before I invest more time into this.

>>2886052
most of this is pretty good, but the highlights on the hair trigger me for not following the flow of it

>>2886052
Thousand-YEAR stare.

Not that interesting. How come you didn't do a full figure? Nice colors and line work though.

>>2886175

This is the ''Draw through'' method. The techniques necessary to begin developing a grasp on how to to them can be learned from Scott Robertson's How To draw book, in addition, his DVD named ''Basics of Drawing'' also deals with this subject. Maybe you'll be interested to know that FZD students are made to do this type of practice quite a few times to perfection so they internalize it and can later, sketch 3D shapes without much issue free-hand.

>>2886188
What have you learn so far through doing it?

>>2886189

I have acquired a much better understanding of how to draw complex 3D shapes in perspective without reference, how to do measures and find where stuff should be at size and angle wise as it recedes further into space. It's slowly, but surely making me have an easier time visualizing 3D shapes in my mind and it's making studying other subjects such as light be much easier, as I can now attempt to dictate a light source and find with accuracy where the cast shadow and the different gradations of tone would be located. The more I practice, the more I internalize it and the less I need to depend on the slow, and pain-staking process of being autistically accurate as my guesses become more educated.


This is the basis for design, once you can move around 3D space in a 2D canvas without much issue, the rest is sketching like a madman and learning about the world and how it works so you can build a visual library and start designing your own stuff.

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>>2886184

>>2885820
He's gotta summon his stand somehow bro

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>>2886157
I know coloring is a step and I have tried a little, I can't make colors stand out though and I know something is missing before I reach there. I don't know what exactly it is.

>>2886161
Thanks anon, I appreciate it. I do practice hard to make it them look somewhat human.

Any more advise would be greatly appreciated.

Added some more work so a larger sample size is available to find a consistent problem, i can work on.

>>2885829
Easy, buy the sweets as a reward for doing practice and not the other way around. What I do each night is that if I do at least 4 hours of practice I get to play overwatch and earn a loot-box. It has worked pretty good so far.

>>2886229
I would just sit in front of paper for four hours and then call it a night probably without even drawing.

>>2886189
>>2886196

Also, I want to add that for every subject I construct I gather very valuable information about it, how it's put together, how it functions and why. This is great for being able to create stuff from imagination as it will be nurtured by ideas based off reality.

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I'm currently struggling with boxes in 3 point perspective. Am I retarded or would the two horizontal vanishing points drop below the EL in cases like this?
Is that possible? I've only done Vandruff and the first few Olson lectures for perspective so far.

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I have a hard time "keeping it simple."

>>2886231
So when are you going to start doing projects? Or are you perhaps not looking to be a concept artist?

>>2886237

I believe I should do a few more construction exercises and gather more info before heading into a project. I've only done 5 construction drawings so far and they could stand to be much better. Concept art is appealing, but it's never been my goal per say.

Are you looking to become one?

>>2886240
How long do each construction drawings take you? I've heard it can take up to 20 hours on the more complicated stuff.

Not really though. I just want to be myself. Art is like a medium for me to be able to express and evoke emotion that I've always wanted. I'm not there yet, not even passed the drawing stage, but I desperately want my vision heard and hope other people will be able to properly feel what I feel as well.

>>2886244
Well I would suggest you pick up Scott robinsons how to draw book and get started. I'm not the other anon but I am on page 17 of the book, I want the same thing as you do.

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>>2886244

Mhm, I did a shitty M1 Abraham and it took me around 5 hours and I didn't finish it completely. Afterwards I did a Mantis and it took considerably less, around 2 hours but it still had errors. But it beats the 14 hours I spent doing a lighter (first construction drawing) that I didn't even manage to finish. The more I do them, the easier it becomes, but if you want it all to be extremely accurate, it's definitely time consuming and tedious. I wouldn't be surprised if I spent more than 30 hours doing one of the more complex projects FZD students do, like the big temples. I am planning on buying a bunch of copic markets, a felt tip pen and a toned paper sketchbook, then go out and sketch as much as possible. I have a long way to go.

But well, putting in the sweat into this sort of exercises pays off, so it's worth it.

>Not really though. I just want to be myself. Art is like a medium for me to be able to express and evoke emotion that I've always wanted. I'm not there yet, not even passed the drawing stage, but I desperately want my vision heard and hope other people will be able to properly feel what I feel as well.

I can relate to that, Anon. I wish you good luck with your goals.

>>2886247
I'll think about looking through it. Thanks. It's awesome to hear what other people want and that you want the same thing as me. I desperately hope you are able to show me those things one day. I'll keep waiting for you just as everyone is waiting for me. I definitely want to be one of the first to experience your world.

>>2886254
How big are the size of these construction drawings? Since you seem to crop the page, perhaps a hand size? I do wonder. All those hours put into drawing must really be worth it when you finish and look at the result that you put all your heart and soul into crafting onto paper. We all have a long way to go, but I hope we continue to be able to have some fun during this journey. It gets lonely sometimes, however with everyone else, maybe it won't be. Since it's a world where we can share together our progress and help each other out. Thanks for good luck. I'll make sure to cherish it forever. I hope you will forever continue to draw and be able to show me what you've always been working towards. I'm really curious as to what it could be and what kind of adventure you will have had by then and be able to share with me and many others.

>>2886269

>How big are the size of these construction drawings?
Yes, a hand size, approximately. I am using an A3 sketchbook.

I've been spamming this Draw through method stuff for a bit these past two weeks, hoping that someone would attempt do learn them. I might have missed but I haven't seen anyone else post their progress on them. Maybe you'll post your stuff if you decide to do them? That way we can learn from each other, that would be cool.

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>>2885231
I feel like the planes on the head are getting compressed rather than moved

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>>2885813
Here's a portrait for a change of pace. Feedback appreciated.

>>2886153
Nah not nearly enough. Don't worry though. Just keep drawing and you'll get over that fear. For your next drawings, play around with the shading and try to go as dark as you can with your pencil. If you mess it up, it's no big deal.

The drawing will really pop more if you darken those values.

>>2886293

Damn, I thought he had a little small penis slapping him in face from the thumbnail.

>>2886299
Hah, yeah I know what you mean. I really didn't want to draw that thumb, but whatever. Let it be a penis.

>>2886301

I got distracted by the penis, but nice work on the portrait. Keep it up

>>2886303
Thanks!

>>2886299
same

>>2886292
This is pretty good. Can I reference your work? I think you're pretty talented

>>2885806
what of these are actually worth my time? http://artprompts.org/the-best-online-art-communities/
i decided to go with paigeeworld.com account for next few months coz it seems relatively closed and non-mainstream which usually means less cancer

also any tips for how to get into illustrating? i´m spending most of today in learning basics very well

>>2886348
It's pretty much, be good at what you do and people will want you or you manage to find a way to get in.

>>2886349
getting commercial is probably where all the fun happens so really looking towards to that

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I'm trying to draw a cabin where the camera is on the ground and looking up but I have no idea what I'm doing orz. Anyone know any good artists to study this kind of stuff from, or have any photo reference?

>>2886366
If the camera is looking up or down you need to use 3-point perspective. 2-point or 1 point perspective(which you used) only simulates looking forward(in relation to the ground plane).

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Are these any good? Should I continue?

>>2886389
what are they suppose to be?

>>2886370
ahh I see, no wonder I just couldn't wrap my head around this. Thanks so much~

>>2886393
noses?

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Can I post stuff from my sketchbook in this thread?

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2/3 I tried to be abstract please just end me

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3/3 I need loomis

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Some scary stuff!

>>2886413
Reminds me of attack on titan kinda! I like it senpai

>>2886411
>>2886409
>>2886405
Practice your lines.

>>2886411

Is that an abdomen???

>>2886043
>I wonder who's more retarded.
You clearly you dumb motherfucker.

Now go a read a fucking book already you useless sack of shit.

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Salome and Yokanaan, (he looks derp) what's bad ? What's gud ? Should I hang myself ?

>>2885999

>hoe to improv
Keys to Drawing

Really, seeing how rough and forced your lines and strokes, shows how you've never even bothered to study the book.

There are other "how to draw what you see" books out there, but Keys to Drawing is generally recommended.

Those books for the most part teaches you how to be comfortable with your own drawing. You'll find it easier to form a shape, draw lines, confidently.

Finish the book. Really study it, apply the teachings, and you're good. You can set the pacing afterwards, go slow or fast.

It's the best beginner book. It actually teaches you how draw, literally.

Don't skip it and jump straight to Loomis or Bridgman whatever. You may study them alongside, but focus on Keys to Drawing first.

>>2886395
Why do you fucks keep responding to obvious fucking bait. Every god damn human on earth can see that they are noses, it's even in the fucking file name Jesus holy Christ. You people are the reason this board is going to shit.

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Worked so hard on this piece of shit. Its like 5 am now and I feel so dumb. Like the reflection is at the wrong angle. The seaweed looks like piles of cat vomit on a blue rug, and the trees are unsatisfying.

Hell even the birds are barely recognizable from rocks. At least I finally did a successful flat wash before I fucked that up too ><

HELP!

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>>2886504
Here was the original reference, and I will include my practice sketch before I made this drawing/painting.

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>>2886504
>>2886506
The original pen practice sketch

>>2886504
Well, you've noticed everything. Great!
Now fix it.

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>tfw you spend almost as much time measuring and planning out a drawing then you do actually drawing
>Watch any video of a high level artist or a mangaka
>They just draw from random as fuck places and don't plan or measure a thing

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>>2885806
i made this as a icon for my new gallery, is it fine for should i change something before starting producing content on paigee

thought about attaching this as a watermark to absolutely everything except the customer works as a transparent stamp

>>2886528
Wow that's amazing anon. I couldn't do that at all really. I have trouble with it even today. I'm more of a of a do it as I go kind of person.

>>2886533
But it doesn't make sense to me at all.

How can someone just go "yeah, I'll start drawing from the hair, oh and this line connects here and oh here is one big line for the face" and still keep proportions?

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Let's explore the heights of my retardness.
Is there anything that's okay with the left portrait, and does the right one look correct enough?

>>2886536
Oh that? That's just a combination of having done it before, taking some time to think and plan our lines so they go where we want them, and luck. It's mainly experience though. Once you've drawn enough, you typically know how it'll be even if you placed it in extreme perspective. I guess if I had to explain it another way. We already have the rough image in our head that gets clearer as we go?

>>2886528
That's the difference between a beginner and someone that's drawn for decades.

>>2886537
Nothing jumps out at me except that hair, it looks painted on and has no volume.

>>2886040
Sorry for the late reply. So I'll go with perspective made easy+hampton. Thanks.

>>2886546
Well, yeah, I didn't even try to apply any effort to the hair. For now, I'm going to draw a simple portrait each day with the sole purpose of understanding the positions of each element in this angle. Doesn't the left face strike you as retarded? I feel like it looks really wrong somehow.

>>2886549
In my case, I've been advised to watch Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching before that. There are some interesting things in there.

>>2886413
reminds me of radiohead

anyone got a hair tutorial that isnt anime? or a book that has a segment on it?

>>2886563
Got that, bro.
https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/an-introduction-to-painting-realistic-hair-in-adobe-photoshop--cms-24251
http://gas13.ru/v3/tutorials/how_to_draw_human_hair.php
http://www.photoshoplady.com/tutorial/how-to-create-realistic-human-hair/7798

Guys can you suggest some interesting things to draw from life? I'm tired of doing portraits over and over again. What can I draw that will teach me a lot?

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can anyone give tips on how to improve? it's my first time posting here so i dunno if i'm posting in the right spot. i feel like i'll get yelled at for drawing anime but i want to start drawing more realistically.

>>2886592
Read the sticky

>>2886592
loomis, villpu, hamptonm, drawabox, sticky, etc.
nice colouring though.

>>2886504
All I can say is you need to grind more perspective

>>2886604
What did he mean by this?

>>2886605
reported

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>>2886627

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>>2886627
reported for announcing your report

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>>2885331
Tried to make it less uniform....I don't think i did to well but I'll finish it of within the next hour or so and simply try again.

>>2886641
How long does it take you to do this?

>>2886643
45 mins mostly longer cause im constantly shitposting on 4chan.

>>2886504
>>2886506
While your self-assessment isn't wrong, your piece has larger issues that need to be fixed first.
1.First, look at how much darker the photo is than your piece. Squinting will help you see the general disparities.
2. See how the water AND the sky in the photo fade as you get closer to the horizon? This is really easy to imitate with watercolor and will help to create depth.
I would suggest creating 2 practice pieces that only have the sky, ground, and dark horizon of trees. Make the first much darker than the photo to break your habit of painting way to lightly. Make the second as close to the photo as possible.
The water will have a bit of purple in it.
Do these 2 things and like 80% of the area of your painting will look great.

>>2886675
Sorry, when I said "sky, ground, and dark horizon of trees" I meant "sky, water, and dark horizon of trees"

>>2886331
You're free to do so! Thank you

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>>2886641
Better I guess... Critiques anyone?

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>>2886682
Autistic people like repetitive tasks and Mathematics

>>2886714
Wow you're really good, do you have any tutorials

>>2886022
>>2886479
Thanks to both of you I will try boxing them today and get a copy of keys to draw.

>>2886578
Clothes, especially lace and frills. Flowers, shiny insects like ants and dragonflies (only useful for better understanding of value aside from drawing insects).

>>2886719
Not really I could make some if you want
What are you interested in knowing?

Can a absolute beginner start with peter han's dynamic bible and companion?

>got a sketchbook in the mail today
>keep drawing on printer paper because i dont wanna sully it with beginner shit

>>2886788
Yeah I have a cheap nasty book with thin paper which I keep using because I'm too scared to draw in my decent one.

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Trying to do stuff from my mind. - Draw With a Pencil P.28

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>>2886695
I'm back and I decided to try out metal stuff, any critiques?

>>2886675
Thanks! Part of the colors being lighter is my scanner that I still need to learn how to use properly. (This is actually with the contrast turned down to get it closer to the original)

The other issue is I'm partially colorblind so graduated tones are extra tricky. All that being said I'll try what you suggested! Thanks again

>>2886797
Texture pattern is too noticeable.

>>2886770
Anyone?

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>>2885814
Daily practice

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How is it, /beg/?

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if someone could give me attention that would be great, neg or positive

>>2886845
bootleg sinix what's up

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>>2886847
what?

>>2886844
looks like you're doing draw a box; in which case your lines are awful. Draw with your shoulder. Looks like you're doing every line multiple times and in some places you have 'hairs' coming off. A little more care would go a long way for you anon.

>>2886862
>shoulder
does that still apply in a small size like a/4

i dunno how big his work is but it looks like a small canvas

>>2886829
Maybe!

>>2886862
Ok, i'll work on my lines. But how are my boxes perspective-wise?

>>2886847
literally years before sinix level

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>>2886803
Better or worse?

>>2886873
that's why I wrote bootleg and not clone/impostor

>>2886874
your ellipses are shit.

>>2886874
what kinf of metal is it?
since its generally a reflective surface you will have to take surrounding environment into account too

>>2886882
Just Steel

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What do you say about this?

>>2886885
about what

>>2886870
Fuck you

>>2886885
look up yoshitaka amano

>>2886891
No thanks! I'm a celibate man!

>>2886896
Yep I love his style : P

>>2886874
The texture is ok now, but those round whatevers need a lot of work. They're not aligned with the plane they are on, and if you intend making them protruding out of your box, then you need to work a lot more on the light.

>>2886901
i thought i recognised it in what you were trying to do.

thing is, amano is all about flair and less about tech skill. im not sure /beg/ can help you be more like him.

>>2886865
Maybe from the elbow in this case then; the point is that the lines aren't one smooth motion like they should be.
>>2886871
Perspective wise there's a couple of wonky ones; at the bottom of your image and the one on the far right. Generally the ones that have an oblique face or look more trapezoidal than cubish (even taking perspective into account) are the ones you need to work on. Have a look at this http://drawabox.com/lesson/1/selfcritique

>>2886906
Yeah I'm working on the perspective now, thanks for the feedback.

>>2886236

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>>2886911
Thank you. I'll work on it. Just posting another one I did. full of mistakes, but anyway.

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>>2885807

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>>2886925
at work

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where do I go from here

>>2886933
figure out where the shadows go.

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One more from that 2 balls exercise.

>>2885811
Once you've defeated all the figure drawing poses, you must beat the final pose.....

>>2885811
i'd actually would like to see an study of this.

>>2886949
>blocks your path
>strikes a pose

nothin... personnel.. kid

>>2886293
It's great

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>>2885811
>>_____11

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HELP there's something wrong with my baby

>>2886986
I'm sorry anon, your baby... your baby isn't gonna make it.

>>2886986

Yep, it's white. Just born and it's already oppressing me.

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>>2886989
I'm trying CPR but there seems to be something wrong with its lungs!

>>2886993
maybe a dingo ate your baby....

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>>2886995
well memed fellow

>>2886986
your blending reminds me of that weird dude a year ago here who only painted 10 year old japanese girls in bikinis

shitty subject matter (in terms of what he should tackle at his skill level) so he shot himself in his foot for that

>>2887024
I remember that guy, apparently he's still around. I saw him a few months ago. He does a different subject matter now though, so you can't tell it's him.

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>you will never find a bunch of cool guys, move to California together and open up a new game studio where you are the artist, and watch the company you built grow to an enormous size over the years, as does your influence within the company

>>2887032
oddly specific....

>>2887032
you cant make quality content whilst also trying to viably make money.

>>2887032
>implying this doesn't work in 2017 still
It worked better in the 90s though.

>tfw tears of frustration mixed with sadness fall over your shitty drwwings
I'm such a pussy.

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>>2887024
Do you mean this guy?

Unfortunately this guide was useless to me since I can't blend for shit.

>>2887036

not only is this comment irrelevant to my post, it's also obnoxious

okay then

>>2887032
I'm already in CA m8.

>>2887042
no

the guy i was talking about was /beg/ tier

>>2886201
thanks mate

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Anything stand out as wrong so far?

>>2887125
his face looks like those illustrations you get to explain problems in exams

also the figure is shite, go read hampton and villpu and use construction.

the bit of wall he is leaning on is slanted.

>>2886226
I like your line work! very neat.

>>2887143
Thank you anon I practice by doing 10 pages of line practice each night. It adds up over time.

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I'm getting better at copying photos, tracing without literally tracing. My proportions aren't as wonky as before. Is this a poor way to practice as a beginner?

>>2887183
>beginner
>that linework
Come on, anon.

>>2887185
are you saying its better than a beginner?

>>2885902
>tracing
lol

Anyone got any advice on how to do shadows in my sketches? Like how to draw them and in what way?

>>2887251
If you fixed that face+ass/legs you would actually have a good drawing anon

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>>2887254
pic related, my shadows look awful

>>2887251
oo interesting. Not a fan of the face though. I know you're going for that anime style but it just doesn't fit the rest of the body.

The eye for instance is kinda floating on its own there. The pointy facial features don't make sense when the rest of the body isn't like that.

>>2887265
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatching

>>2887254
have you practiced contour drawings? Identifying the space shadows occupy and how they work against form is a good start.

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Whatcha got for me? Whatcha think?

>>2887269
This is how I've been doing it so far although extremely bad(kind of copied the lines from how they draw in comicbooks and just winged it)
The link helped, thankyou anon
>>2887272
I haven't done this no, ill add this to my backlog for studies.

>>2887251
What construction method are you using?

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>>2887297
i generally just rough in each part lightly beforehand, then erase of if i don't nee to, just darken with pencil, and do that as i go down the body

>>2887304
>>2887251
>being this good at drawing
>yet still draws potato faces
how is this possible? do you draw that face ironically?

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thoughts?

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>>2887309
no, i do the faces like that in earnest, i'm very specificly trying to evoke an anime style to the face, while trying to avoid an anime body

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>>2887331

>>2887331
It looks like shit, m8, stop coming up with those excuses.

>>2887273
the perspective is well done for the most part, but the bands across the chest are drawn as though seeing them from straight on, and the left foot is a bit wonky

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>>2887337
i'm not making an excuse, i'm answering a question

>>2887337
they're not excuses that's how it is

>>2887304
>>2885806
are these the same character?

How do I draw from imagination? Any anons can help me out here? Drawing from reference is easy for me now but once I draw from imagination, proportions, perspective and everything looks extremely retarded.
Am I suppose to keep drawing from references till I improve that imagination gets better?

>>2887331
You don't know how the face works in real life and that means your "anime style faces" are still going to be roasted.

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>>2887364
again, you're projecting my answer as me defending myself, i understand that my faces are unrealistic in general

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>>2885806
the one on the bottom left unintentionally looks like a tranny

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>>2887372
charcoal wip

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>>2887373
ref

>>2887366
>unrealistic

Unappealing or unaesthetic would be more appropiate.
Seriously, work on your faces, they're not anime style, I love manga and I read it everyday and I'm telling you they're seriously off.

>>2887361
pls respnd, the sticky is too unorganized and "generic"

>>2887361
personally i just kept drawing from imagination till the problems started to go away

>>2887394
can you post a before after picture of your drawings?

>>2887331
It's not a pleasing anime face. Study manga faces like you studied the body if that's what you're going for.

>>2887125
that leg and knee looks painful.

>>2887326
Please respond

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>>2887405
fair enough, what specificly would you change to make it better?

>>2887366
if you don't wanna learn, that's your own issue my guy

>>2887326
its shit

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>>2887416
That's it? Nothing else?

>>2887417
looks very kawaiii anon, ignore that other poster

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>>2885806
Help me with my anatomy anons

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>>2887418
Thanks have this old drawing I did 2 years ago

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>>2887412
Make the face more 3dimensional and give it more realistic proportions, even if the eyes are bigger than normal keep them inside the skull and the mouth should only be slightly bigger than the nose. Show some forehead and place the eyes lower.

Look at artists who do something similar, that is realistic but stylized proportions. Their face proportions still are close to loomis, while the eyes are bigger they don't exceed the skull.

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>>2887440
thanks for the advice, i'll try and utelize it in the next drawing i do and see how they turn out

>>2887441
also anon, stop drawing eyes so high in faces, looks really weird. generally speaking, eyes are at the same height as ears are (around the center of the face)

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>>2887440
Look at the eyes in this infographic. They are anime style but they are still 3d.

>>2887441
Not even Joker from batman had a mouth that wide.

>>2887443
>eyes are at the same height as ears are (around the center of the face)

To be fair, he put the eyes at the height of the ears, only that he placed them to high as well.

>>2887445

>That male body


Jesus christ, that's a fucking tranny.

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>>2887447
thanks, i was about to say that in response to >>2887443

also, >>2887445, you chose the pic with arguably the smallest mouth to say that about and i find that funny

>>2886052
fix grandma chin

>>2887454
>grandma chin

explain

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>>2887412
Proportions are way off, head is too small and features are freakishly big. It looks very uncanny and uncomfortable to look it.

You don't have to draw realistic faces but you should at least follow the fundamentals. Your anatomy is decent but the faces honestly look like a 12 year old drew them.

>>2887421
The perspective of the face does not match the head that it is attatched to. Her right eye is a little off. Right arm is at a weird angle and has no depth to it, it looks very flat.

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how is this coming?

>>2887500
If you make the right side pillars look less flat and do something about those patches of grey on the pyramid, the picture would look pretty nice (for a game out of late 90s or early 2000s). Although you should also pay more attention to the background and the shadows. Remember that any fire produces light and that the sun doesn't really produce such distinct shadows as the one from that pillar. The tree on the left side looks strange, it's like it fell down on the pillar but didn't catch fire. I also suggest working on the effects to make them look more appealing.

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>>2887507
ah these are all good catches thanks. i still got quite a bit too go but ive been known for polishing turds so i want to see if this one its actually decent.

as for the tree, so maybe i just drew this wrong to begin with considering how it seems to point toward the view even though the trunk is supposed to start towards just behind the first pillar then the tree goes back towards the further pillar if that makes sense. i guess a way to fix this would be to rework the fawns so that they are viewed from 'beneath' the tree instead of 'above'? sort like pic related since its basically exactly what im trying to do.

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>>2885811

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>>2887373
this is bretty good my dude

>>2887500
cute picture erikk

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For once, I'm using some fundies for a commission...
then I notice where I put the second vanishing point.
FML

>>2885862
Flat. Don't waste time on all the details if he has no form for it to be on. Body is all cylinders and cubes braa

>>2887522
thanks its one of my better ones not to brag

>>2887516
>> i guess a way to fix this would be to rework the fawns so that they are viewed from 'beneath' the tree instead of 'above'?
That's right, and the trunk should be foreshortened then. Right now it doesn't seem to be in perspective.

>>2887523
Since you're doing 1-point perspective like that then they should share the same vanishing point.

>>2887528

Yep. Figured that out 45 minutes in.

Ooc, could I get a redline that shows me how to line up the perspective say I wanted to keep the chair at that angle, but use the lines from the desk's VP?

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>>2885862
Version Number 2

Is this less flat

I liked the fluffy texture parts on the original's armor and tried to make it bigger in this one but I don't like how it came out. The original armor design was better I think. I may try it a third time combining those.

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>>2887537
You don't seem to get what that guy tried to tell ya. Your dude looks even flatter than the one before. Look at this picture and try to understand how it creates an illusion of shape, even though it's far from perfection.

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i tried to make the eyes fir the mold here, and made the mouth smaller on this on

>>2887525
its not but ok!

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>>2887577
Here's the picture which helped me to understand one of my big flaws early on. I think it would be useful to you too.

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wat do

>>2887609
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>>2887617

l2boobs

>>2885829
drawing it is its own reward
or some shit like that