Alternative Art/Stylization General

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First?

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done I think?

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Don't really know what to draw.

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Happy new year!

We're all going to make it!

>>2799371
I could fap to this. good job man.

>>2799371
I've never seen someone as seriopus about their art passions as you. Keep up the giant anime girls

>>2799371
yuck, same face, same style, same rendering, same everything. It's like a food that tastes ok at first, but then gets tasteless after a while. The only people that find this good, are probably all 40 year lolicons kek.

>>2799392
konpaku?

>>2799371
Why is there mustard on her cheeks?

>>2799608
sorry *ketchup*

>>2799610
>>2799610
The knights probably tried to blind the beast but missed.

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How to unfuck her stomach?
Looked ok on a sketch and &then it went all fucked up when i started painting

>>2799371
HNNNNNNNG

>>2799392
Blog?!

>>2799550
Wew lad.
It's called self style consistency and it's a harder than doing any random body part study.

>>2799371
looks good m8
blog?
also is suiren finished yet?

>>2799625
>Looked ok on a sketch
No, it didn't. A good painting is a good drawing.

>>2799625
find reference of a woman in that pose and see whats different m8.

>>2799392
Most of those are just drawn from screenshots.

>>2799698
Aww that's a pity, tho the quality is still nice, i would love to see some original work from the artist.

Anyone have that info graphic of learning to draw with that touhou character as an example? It's fairly long and has mastery levels at the bottom

>>2799719
I have it...but I have to search for it hold on

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>>2799725
wait nvm that would be nsio's tutorial thing

what I have is different

>>2799729
>http://nsio.deviantart.com/gallery/45894768/Tutorials
That's what I was looking for, thanks anon

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>2017
>still making shitty weeb art

Never change /ic/

Never

Change

>>2799371
Very nice! Good composition and choice of perspective makes this one stand out.

I agree with the other anon that the blush looks weird, unless it is supposed to be face paint. But I still really like the piece

>>2799771
I bet you won't produce a single original piece all year long.
But it's ok, copying photos and Loomis' schemes is really helping you, you will eventually be good enough to actually create something.
Maybe next year!

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>>2799698
>>2799702
Yes, I really don't know what to draw.
But I want to keep my hands moving so there's that.
Here's the youtube link of what I was drawing if anyone is interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQMRz0vAfE0

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>>2799779
how triggered do you have to be to give a (you) to someone who is making a joke

>>2799828
Why not make your own character, or draw some fanart of other characters. First you could do some simple things out of your imagination, like expressions.
Remember to think about storytelling when finding ideas, they don't have to be complicated stories, they could just be character doing household chores, strangling a bunny, going for a jog or even interacting with other characters.
You have ton of ideas but you aren't inspired by them, that is because you probably don't know where to start, sadly i can't help you there, you just have to improvise and experiment like all the other artists,
Good luck! i love those poses.

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trying to start the year strong

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inb4 girls with cocks

>>2800029
Cute. Blog?

>>2800027
not entirely sure whats going on here

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>>2800116
>>2800027

copped out

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Do the colors work? Is it clean enough? I have a lot of doubts on if this style is going to work or not. Should I ditch the soft shading on the arm and just cell shade?

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>>2799670
Yeah here.
No blog only twitter, https://twitter.com/Yilxaevum

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It's not a simple question, but can I ask why you do it personally?

>>2800275
Art in general, or post here, or want to be the best, etc.

>>2800275
Art in general?

I used to have fun drawing a long time ago and I think I force myself to draw because I want to recapture that feeling, even if I hate the outcome all the time. I also have a world of characters and it's really my only way to visualize them. I'd love to get good enough to have fun again but my work schedule is volatile as hell and I can't really make/stick to a proper schedule to practice beyond trying to squeeze in time here and there, and I'd rather that be "fun" stylized drawings than grinding fundamentals.

I do still have fun with pixel art though. Not really sure why, since it's much more monotonous.

>>2800284
Thank you. That seems pretty admirable, as far as reasons go. It's probably about the closest I could get to explaining my own, at least from day to day.

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>>2800275
because pic related

>>2800289
Yeah, I mean, it's true, but is there more? Seems like of all places this one seems to think so, even if it's shallow.

>>2800288
And I should add, it's not so much recapturing a feeling over trying to create a new one each time.

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>>2800275

>>2799371
I'd work on the blush 2bh

kinda looks like burn scarring with boils at the ends

>>2800312
Yeah, thanks, I guess, I would've already admitted I'm a retard so

>>2800312
really though, why do you do it?

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Something wrong with pelvis and torso but i dont know what

>>2800289

Good enough answer for now so I'll take it. Thanks, hey

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I stopped working on this to work on an orangutan princess. Am I going to make it, /ic/? Be honest.

I don't even know anymore

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>>2800399
Only thing that is somewhat ok in this is the eyes, face shape and nose placement feels really off, try to do a head turnaround thingy with it and you'll see it wont work from all of the angles.

>>2800342
These legs, kek.

>>2800416
thanks

>>2800416
hm... I mean if i rotate it in my head it all works out, but if you're feeling particularly gracious, I can't quite see what you mean. And again, it's just my eyes accustomed to my own drawings but still. Regardless, thanks for pointing out deficiencies. cheers at any rate~

>>2800416
I'll take your word for it otherwise and see what i can do with it. cheers~

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>>2800399
>>2800444
I'm not the that good at red lining, but what i'm trying to say is that try keep the nose on the center line and the face symmetrical even when in perspective.
I would recommend to study some skulls.

>>2800472
Well... I can see what you were going for, it diverges a bit from what I wanted ;_; But this hints at a needed revision. At any rate, thanks, really! Maybe one of the problems is the face doesn't fully convey where all of the lines should be drawn, and that's my fault. idk if I can always convey that, but I'll try harder next time. Cheers, m8~

>>2800472
(I think)

>>2800472
>face symmetrical in perspective

OK admit you're trolling now thanks

>>2800472
Don't be afraid of what you can't see

>>2800502
Sorry that didn't come out right, but you know what i mean.

>>2800506
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

>>2800472
This is cute, but, what are you trying to show except you know how to turn a face into a squashed retard face?

I'm getting so frustrated with my shitty results lately that I decided to start working on more fundamentals, but the problem is I absolutely hate them. How do you balance working on the shit you hate so that you get it done, but it doesn't rob drawing of all the enjoyment?

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I'm working on some concept art of a cute alien character for a school project.

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>>2800472
This clearly hit's "stylization" and imo I like right for anatomic correction, but left is clearly better for animu. There's a reason animu doesn't always conform to fundamentals one to one, it's a cartoon regardless of cultural origin.

If that anon wasn't drawing something that "kawaii", then I'd go with right.

>>2800577
you have two ways:
- internal: you make it enjoyable by making your fundamental exercises part of something you like (an illustration, etc)
- external: you reward yourself for your exercises. let's say you enjoy fapping to anime. then you do it only after 1 hour fundamentals work session. done your perspective exercise? bam have a fap.
soon your brain associates the pleasure to the work.

>>2800419
W-w-what

>>2800633
I think he means those knees, they are HUGE!
Go and do some knee knee studies.

>>2800275
>>2800399
I really like this, got a blog of some sort?

>>2800662
Is this a new meme?

>>2800663
No, i just want the lad's blog, even if it is very stylized/animu

>>2800670
:^)

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>>2799310
I take it that this thread isn't just for animu styles.

>>2800740
Yeah, OP is just a degenerate that refuses to change

>This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies.

For whatever reason. He could easily remove the sentence entirely but he feels the need to twist the knife into us western style artists' buttholes ever deeper with each thread he makes. .

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has been ages since last posted here. Painting is done for a while and getting back to pen, now trying to find ways to simplify everything.

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>>2800751
So you could say that OP is a bit of a faggot?

>>2800340
I think it might be an awkward perspective shift.It seems like we're looking at the shoulders from above, but the pelvis seems more like we're looking at it from a downward angle, and it conflicts.

I'm also shit at art and perspective though, so take this with a grain or two.

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new year new post

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more practices

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>>2800853
more practices 2

>>2800853
That image in the top left gives me nightmares

however the middle one with her lying down sucking dick is god like

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character wip

>>2800864
THICC

>>2799460
>those eyes
ALL HAIL LELOUCH

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Not sure if I fucked up the perspective or not.

>>2800879
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2800879
Thats making me dizzy, definitely some kind of perspective issue going on

>>2800850
>...and then she farts!

>>2800850
As much as I absolutely hate the art style it looks very very similar to the SG in the comic she has so props to you

>>2800879
Nice, only thing i can say is that the pole on the left is bit too straight for that fisheye perspective.

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>>2800864
lil more

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>>2800975
ig? i like where this is going. looks cute.

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art is hard you guys holy shit! props to you crazy fuckers who do this for a living. my new years resolution is to try and draw a thing every day, at the moment i'm attempting a "redraw" of this thingie i made in a kisekae maker. pardon the mirrored face, that's probably super lazy of me.
does it look too unsettling?

>>2800986
This isn't your subreddit or DA forums, stop typing as if it where your fucking blog. Needs more Loomis.

>>2800991
i'm sorry!

>>2800986

first girl looks fine, just a little stiff and kinda, empty of emotions lol.

the second one looks a little off in the eyes. I cant tell the expression youre going for, she looks like someone made a bad joke and she doesnt know how to react. but its a sketch, so well see where it goes.

drawing everyday will help from a minuscule amount to reaching milestones. it helps when you have a specific goal within it. good luck. ignore the other loser.

>>2801002
thank you! the one of the left is actually the reference that i'm using for the one on the right. i was trying to go for a sheepish but playful smile, but what do you think i should do to emulate that a bit more? (pardon my english)

>>2801007
the one on the left is not that good tbqh. If you want to be a good artist you should always try to find inspiration in top of line artists, while you are still learning that is

>>2801015
i really appreciate your advice, thank you so much anon!

>>2800518
sorry this was uncalled for

>>2800670
>even if it's stylized
What thread is this even
But no to answer your question

>>2800986
Are you doing that thing where the face us a mask because that is not enough space for a brain
Also her eyebrows are too big and stretch out too far to be cute

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A quick mix of an owl, kitten and an octopus I drew as a bd gift for a friend.

Hopefully I draw more this year.

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Should I go with the drills or keep the straight hair I had underneath?

idk I feel like the curls give it more of a composition and movement.

>>2801161
You have more to be worrying about than just hair style alone, friend.

>>2801163
provide information

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All the pokemon commissions Ive been getting are through mouth of word. Been struggling to get coms online, maybe Ive been posting on the wrong sites or art just needs some improving. Any advice? ;-;

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>>2801212
Another one I've been working on!

>>2800342
those knees are way too blocky, man. It looks as though they're made of rubber and have been folded over. Find a reference and use it.

>>2800986
it's pretty good, but reminds me of that moon emojii...

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the commissioner wants three green pokemon next to each other in this comp but i dont know how to make em stand out from each other.

>>2801212
from someone also drawing a pok com (and chandelure lol) post on tumblr/twitter/dev and tag the hell out of it. get some of your popular friends to reblog your commission posts and shit.

>>2801213
this is incredibly cute! The shading on the arm hanging down is a little messy, and her opened eye looks a little bit too slanted (but that may be because her bangs are covering the top and i can't see the whole thing)

I like your work! Where can i find more of it?

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hi im new

>>2801267
hi. enjoy your stay

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>>2801267
Welcome my fellow new companion i am new too! anyways you're here forever meme and shit
Here's one of my drawings what do you guys think? also what color do i make the red one's eyes? should i keep it as is or should i change it to a color closer to red as i was thinking of doing something of the kind i don't know

>>2801267
>>2801306
I want DA to leave.

>>2801161

I say go with the curls.

Also welcome you seem new to this thread I would remember a style like that. Ignore the random anon there's literally nothing wrong with your picture.

>>2801231
Ah that seems to be the way to go then, cheers!

>>2801236
Thanks!! I'll fix up those areas :>
I'm on instagram @ Doggars, still fairly new to it though.

>>2800986
Thing on the left isn't yours, right? It's from a website of some sort where you can customize your character?

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>>2800861
yeah that shading sucked

practices again

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>>2801509
and again

>>2801511
What the fuck, Anonymous?

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>>2801443

This creeps the shit out of me.

>>2801114
ah, do you mean big as in thick? should i move them a bit lower?
>>2801226
i see what you mean! i'm hoping it will look a little less creepy once i've added hair.
>>2801504
yes! i "made" it on this k-on kisekae thing. unfortunately i can't seem to remember the link, but i'm sure someone here recognizes where it's from.

thank you, you guys! i'll try my hardest to fix my mistakes.

>>2801058
Make 1 nerd

>>2801161
looking good so far, can't really say much about the composition without seeing the rest of the canvas though so i don't think i can answer your question

>>2801161
cute, CUTE

>>2800149
Lovely!
>don't have twitter yet
I'll follow you soon

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Far from finished but I think I really need to move on

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how can someone achieve such level of cuteness

>>2801908
To be honest, you need the spark. If you don't know now, then you probably won't ever know.

>>2801938
What do you mean what spark?

>>2801945
It's like asking people what's the appeal of lolis? If they don't know the first time, then they probably won't ever understand.

>>2801908
PRACTICE
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>>2801908
muh dick

>>2800149
>only twitter,
You have a pixiv too though. Why don't you ever post it?

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need advice on this one.

>>2802068
Don't hide her hands

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>>2802068
not hiding, just need advice on the legs, body.

>>2802068
Draw the whole picture again while fixing the things you did wrong, think how you could make it more interesting, or how you could push the pose or the expression, what are you trying to convey with this picture. This just looks like you where doodling without an idea of what you where going to draw.

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What tool is used to achieve this kind of splotchy coloring? It doesn't seem to be blended colors, more like a simple low opacity pen but I've had no luck replicating it

>>2802085
hard round brush?

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>>2801533
is it the eyes or the subject matter? If the latter is the case I don't blame you. If it's the eyes how can I improve them though to make them not creepy?

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>>2802025
I am practicing its hard im not sure where im heading honestly.

>>2802093
add a white dot, now they are entrance way to abyss.

>>2802096
Work on those hands.

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>>2802096
The hand is also placed on the wrong side of the arm and physically impossible. The and has to be placed on the inner side of the arm on the crook of the arm not on the elbow.
I dare you to try to place your hand like that, it's not only difficult but you will also notice that your index finger is not on top but the small one. (Pic related)
Pose yourself before you draw something if you are not sure.

>>2800342
Pretty nice except for those tumor knees. Also, the hands might be a tad too big.

>>2802134
Not them, but I can do the pose easily with my arms as I'm flexible. You just bend your arm normally when trying to grab the other one, then twist it. You aren't wrong though, it still looks odd and I don't think she'd put in all the effort I'm doing for that just because she's timid or something. (She seems that way to me)

>>2802166
on his drawing the index finger though is on top, which in that pose it is not.

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>>2799310
Wanted to color this tomorrow, but I think I'll just start something new, too many problems with clothing and stiff limbs.

>>2802093

They are voids of black. I feel the eye size is perfect, but give the guy some eyeballs, man.

Give them some color, perhaps pupils?
It seems like such a happy boy, but the eyes just stare through your soul. Learn to draw eyes.

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>>2801908
Emulate. If >>2802096 is you then at this point it's just knowing how to use your medium. Look up step by steps and coloring tutorials that have a similar style to the one you want to have and then look up tutorials for the software you draw with. I've learned that half of digital art is just know what does what and getting the program to handle some of the finer details so you can focus on the bigger picture.

Don't give up, most if not all of the people we Idolize started off worse than us with less support.
We're all gonna make it.

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messing around.. idk. might pursue this geometric obsession

For anime styles, do I still have to aim and hit the 8 heads thing? What if I'm hitting 6.5, but it looks ok? If I try and getting it to 8, it looks stretched out and weird

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>>2802465
Try 10 or 11.

Seriously though, make them whatever height seems pleasing to you.

The only thing to remember, is that the bigger the head/the fewer amount of heads you use for height, the cuter your character will look.

>>2802465
Moe head heights are usually between 5 to 6.5, it's a good sense of 'cute'. 8 is almost superhero head heights, dude.

>>2802448
don't waste your time doing it with 2d software.

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>>2800472

ayy

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I think there's something "off" about this drawing but I don't know why.

>>2800879
Blog? There isn't enough nichijou art in this planet.

>>2802754
I'll work on it, thanks

is there a good trick in coloring in sai or clip paint studio cause my method is very exhausting and demotivating me.

>>2801443
Uhh... this makes me uneasy...

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Progress from >>2795496

Thx for the OP btw

>>2801604
Maybe when my drawing gets some legs under it, anon.
aha..

>>2802764
the neck and body feels way out of proportion compared to the head, even if it is anime make the head smaller, oh and fix the nose.

>>2801267
you're not Ilya stop it

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>>2802111
I've tried that. imo it kind of throws off the effect of it and makes it creepier.
>>2802271
What can I say it's just my style I guess. Every character I've drawn for a long time has some weird work around to avoid drawing normal anime eyes.

>>2802603
hmm, good point. I don't have a clue with computer sculpture though. best I can do is fimo at the minute

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>>2802857
hair looks flat compared to the rest of the drawing and the skull seems a bit small.
>>2803018
maybe try a different shape language?

>>2799336
refs are boring unless you have pro models
stylize

>>2799371
nice
___x?


>>2799625
make your subject's face more kawaii.
you lightened the legs too much that's why the anatomy distorted.
did you use boring refs?

>>2800275
I do it for the sake of doing it. It's like asking the meaning of meaning.

>>2800340
fix the head and face

>>2800399
not unless you quit

>>2801443
>>2802093
color palette is creepy.
are you using ipad/note? only thing i can say is try pixel brushes

>>2801861
uncanny valley. either realistic or kawaii


>>2802096
broken neck

>>2802465
You should be worrying more when there's characters of disparate age in a single frame in perspective

moe: 4 5 6~
adult-giants: 7 +
skulls not heads
keep in mind the hair will make the head size a lot bigger.

>>2802857
either simplify or detail everything.
pick one

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>>2803106
forgot pic

WIP

>>2800191
i like this

>>2803126
i like you

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>>2802857
I don't know if it's just my taste but maybe try to shrink the area of the face a bit. Then widen the space between the eyes. And extend the bangs area a bit more outside the skull so it would look like it has some volume.

>>2802857
love this! Good work bruh

>>2803154
You just made it look like one of her eyes is trying to escape her face.

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LAS stuff

>>2803195
man I love i so much, it has a slight travis charest vibe to it (especially on the thumbnail)
you could refine it more, it's fantastic.
got a blog?

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http://frufi.deviantart.com/

>>2803216
>>2803195

samefag

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wew

>>2803251
holy fuck sometimes i hate this place so goddamn much.
wht are you assuming this? could you provide some insight?
or better, post something that's much better than this drawing so I can praise you.

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>>2803244
upa da!

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>>2803376
oops

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>>2803244
Juicy art :3

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>>2803216
Thanks!! Yeah, I have a tumblr, but it's mostly just sketches and old stuff (grachh.tumblr.com/tagged/art)
>>2803251

>>2801443

why did you put the toothpaste almost exactly where his dick would be

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>>2803106
>make your subject's face more kawaii.
I really have troubles with that.
I don't feel the kawaii faces, i think i have developed bad style with them or bad habits of drawing them wrong.
>did you use boring refs?
Nope, drawing after something something that is already pictured is boring.
Why would you even put an effort into making something that somebody has made before you? Except when it's a study indeed.

>>2800191
I think you're silly as all hell, anime buddha, but keep it up

>>2803106
but if I quit now, then I'll never make up all my losses from this portfolio. And maybe I am asking for the meaning of meaning, but isn't that meaning? :^)

At any rate, it is searching for something in drawing from imagination/for fun, isn't it?
Maybe asking what's your direction or what were you hoping to accomplish with this _______ doesn't sound so lofty. But I'm interested in perspective, even if the best/only answer is "Just look at it with your eyes idiot"
Thanks for the answer btw

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fucking around, idk

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Been using Autodesk for about 4 months and today installed Krita and made this, I like a lot more this program

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practice

>>2803726
take another hard look at her eyes

>>2800583
I'm going to need a version I can fap to for...research purposes.

>>2803726
she looks cross-eyed. and your colors are significantly less vibrant. also the sea has a greenish color in the original, not blue

>>2799310
I hope the one on the left isn't what you're calling anime style

Sorry for the cross post; just realized this would probably be a more pertinent thread for my question (besides /beg/ of course)

>>2803025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFvwTKzWrLg

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>>2803726

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>>2803632
To make kawaii eyes the iris should be a lot larger and the eyelid should be thicker aswell dont forget to add lots of color contrasts yours is veery dull thats why it looks very dull and unkawaii.

>>2802066
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=304834

>>2803753
>>2803763
i don't see the cross eyed though they do look off to me

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>>2803726
MEME IT!

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>>2803942
go for it. i'd be amazed if anything i do isn't forgotten in more than a week.

more practices from today

>>2803978
yooo, pay attention to your eyes

>>2803978
Girl on the right looks like she's in a T-pose.

>>2799310
Can someone post the far left drawing?

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>>2800275
Because I want to draw illustrations for my on-going web novel. I'd rather make it myself than risk others interpreting it wrongly.

Right now, I'm still embarrassed to call these things my "works". My aim is to someday no longer need to get ashamed when I show others what I draw. And I spend 2 hours a day non-stop for that.

I know I'm improving, but only very slowly.

>>2803978
copying a shitty weeb drawing line by line isnt going to make you a better artist, you know

>>2803978
you could copy an architecture drawing and learn no perspective at all, do you understand that?

you don't learn fundamentals trought copying, but trought aplication from the ground up of those foundations/theory

not all copying exercices are useless, it depends on what kind of analysis and thinking you're doing, if you're just copying lines/shapes, you're only gonna train your skill to percieve and translate lines/shapes, which won't help you to draw anything that isn't on a picture already

>>2800191
I meant it as a compliment, if it wasn't clear

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>>2803252
Here, this should help you with some of your kawaii problems. I might have spared the nose save for some anons you savaged a few months ago
Cheers~

>>2803942
Helpful.
I'll be you're huckleberry

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how's my animu stylization?

>>2804721
God tier taste, but that eye looks a little off.

>>2804725
"our" left or right?

>>2804721
reminds too much of genzoman, specially the face

>>2804734
are you dumb or something? its her right(our left) eye.

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>>2804800
He's ok. pic related is more my ideal at least for eastern stylization.

>>2804804
Starting to remember why I don't post here.

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>>2803632
I drew for practice. If it helps in some way, I will be happy.

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Hello! I'm new to this board.

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>>2804818

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>>2804087
>>2804091
>>2804092
>>2804340
>>2804347

i'm really getting that i need to work on my eyes/symmetry. i'm gonna try, but if they still aren't right after a couple attempts i'm just gonna keep going with the drawing anyways so i don't get too caught up on it.

i don't know what T-Pose is

i wasn't copying those drawings from the second post, those were imagination, but ok they aren't so good.

todays practice. if i want to learn anime style though i have to copy anime...

>>2804825
Stop copying anime.

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>>2804821
Nice shapelanguage. Kind of reminds me of that one sketchbook video from drawing tutorials online.
>>2804825
You should probably learn to construct properly before you attempt this kind of thing.

>>2804825
why are your colors always darker? Color pick if you need to.

>>2804825
https://youtu.be/v5x_tjCcYfo
jump to 22:11 for coloring.
But I strongly advise you to watch the first part to see how much time he spends on getting the lines right.
You can speed it up if you like, tho.

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>>2804904
CMYK colors are not very bright to begin with, i guess he hasnt found out how to switch to rgb

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So, I don't want to end like Proko and be shit at drawing from imagination. If I started now will I be better studying from references?

>>2804893
Ah, thanks! I'd never heard the term "shapelanguage" before, so I had to look it up.

I'm really going for the "show, don't tell" kind of thing. And I also want to make sure if you're looking at my art, you're seeing interesting shapes. Also, I think you're comparing me to Spencer from that sketchbook video, which would be an incredible achievement for me, because that guy is a huge inspiration for me.

Your art style is really unique, I don't think I've seen anything really like that. Are you an animation student? It looks just loose enough for me to believe that.

>>2804914
Mad props dude. I love it.

>>2804914
That looks amazing! I'm super jealous!

>>2804920
Ya dumb shit you are supposed to do proko's and loomis guides so when you want to do stuff from imagination you wont be shit.
Just because you want to do anime doesn't mean you don't need to know that stuff.
You need to know the rules if you want to break them, (proko and loomis are the rules.)

>>2804929

Nigger I'm doing Hampton, I just want to do anime shit along the lines, I'm not going to drop it just because. It's that too hard to understand or what?

>>2804933
Well then you are gonna be just fine, good luck with your art.

>>2804825
you dumb fuck, you're clueless about what it takes to learn to do something in particular, you're at the bottom level, you have no idea and all the ideas you already have about how things work are simply wrong, be a stubborn

>>2804825
>>2800119
Stop catching more hatred and just start with the beginner thread. Its not so toxic and for BEGINNERS like you are.

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>>2804924
Yeah Spencer is the guy I was talking about and no, I`m not an art student, but thanks for the compliment i guess.

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Work in progress.

What do you guys think?

>>2804990
is that supposed to be radiant wukong? Cause it looks like a turd monkey.

>>2804825
You're going about this the wrong way.

No amount of practice like this is going to get you anywhere when you're fundamentally doing it wrong.

You could take a car, and start trying to make one from scratch. But if you don't know shit about what's
under the hood then the best you're going to end up with is a wagon.

You are copying the lines and colors without understanding the meaning or even structure of them.
You might be getting marginal benefits to your line control and ability to copy.
But your brain might as well be clinically dead for all it's learning from this exercise.

like >>2804893 said,
you need to learn to construct. Right now you're copying on a pretty much line by line basis.
You need to learn HOW this person created this piece, not how to COPY the piece.

Once you know how to construct using anatomy, you can construct your own drawing from theirs,
and dissect how they actually drew this.

the point of studying other people's work is to LEARN.
You need to practice in a way that lets you proactively learn so that you can improve.

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>>2804825
>>2805017
As an addendum:
Definitely go to the beginner thread.
You will get more relevant excercises, critique, and probably less flak.

You should also learn some proper sighting techniques,
which would make the accuracy of your using reference a lot better.

>>2804911
wow, not the guy you replied to, but I find these videos extremely helpful, it's like a goldmine of drawing videos. Thanks so much man, funny how I never stumbled across these before. They are like those workshop dvd's that you buy, but geared towards anime. Are there any other similar channels like these online that you would recommend??

>>2804825
I don't see what's so wrong about this piece. Are you guys trolling him?

>>2804825
To give you a more positive take to this.

It looks bad because you put the original right above, but looking at the piece for what it is and considering we are all learning here, the bottom looks pretty coolio. You already did 50% more than most by adding a background, and getting the basics of rendering.

Hell, you even improved one of the girls who had wonky eyes in the original, though you fucked up the rest.

In short, I'd give it a 3/10, which means you can consider yourself a budding artist. Just read more and practice.

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>>2804825
>mfw I don't get one stinking (you) from my work and then there's this faggot.

>>2805061
Prob because there's nothing to critique. Good for you.

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oc character

>>2805028
well, if it's vibrant manga style you're interested in, then this guy's got some pretty good stuff.
https://youtu.be/weZEBzvBmj4

This one is good too, but it's a more "serious" style.
https://youtu.be/D5o1AsmZ5DE

Is that what you were looking for?

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>>2803632

>>2804994
looks cool as shit to me, but wish it were longer. maybe you should post it in the animation thread to get feedback on that though?

>>2804914
Wow, great rendering. You're close to making it.

>>2804920
Looks nice. That ear is squashed, breasts are a bit misplaced and eyes are not 100% symmetrical. Practice anatomy and bit more.

>>2804825
What have you learned? As a protip: If you are not learning, you're wasting useful time.

>>2804994
That looks really good. Have you visited the animation thread?

>>2805080
Keep practicing. Eyes are too separated.

>>2801161
u got a blog senpai?

>>2804825
Are you from /w/vector?

Your lines are consistent but needs bit cleanup
focus more on detail, style, and shape of individual parts but still assume everything is in 3D.

Start drawing without refs. If you find something off study it and fix those drawings it later.

I used to redraw my weeb sketchnote because I keep seeing errors as I get better.

>>2804332
coloring your work will eat a lot of your practice time when you could be focusing on much more important aspects like proportions and anatomy, detail and gesture. Start by drawing your own body or training your eye staring at whatever possible.
i really hope you're not using mouse for drawing.

>>2804382
Oh thanksee! It face looked much much better and doesn't look like smug gorilla/animal (yep that's what I'm thinking while adding values)

>few months ago
That's only last month if you remember the thread with the doxxed gentleman https://warosu.org/ic/thread/S2785835#p2787466 wow is this archived forever

>>2803632
i cannot stare at the older version because it gives me the creeps. much better now.
I did a rough edit here >>2805093

removed the bulge?
decreased the shoulder width.
tigh length = ~torso
made hairline?hairspot? visible to viewer.
not sure if mine's even good but i love editing

>>2805093
looks more natural than the original, but I can't shake off that feeling that I'm looking at that borat guy from the movie. Maybe it's the nose and eyebrows.. Just my opinion doe.

>>2804809
>thats 90s animu look
me too anon, me too...

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>>2804926
>>2804928
>>2805138
thanks anons. w-w-we're all gonna make it r-right...

>>2801908
Roll her in the gacha first

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first real attempt of 2017

>>2805270
Britty good proportions but the face is too small, everything looks too pushed together in tiny region. Might also wanna check the pelvis area again, the legs come out at a really weird angle, should be more spread apart. As it is now it kinda seems like the legs come out her vaginal area.

>>2805278
thanks for the useful feedback dude

>>2800472
I hope this is bait, because your version looks way worse. Im also guessing you know nothing about manga/anime styles. go home to /beg/

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>>2805230
>coloring your work will eat a lot of your practice time
Fuck. I just noticed that, and you're right.
But leaving them alone uncolored makes me feel slightly irritated. Like when I forget to turn off the fan but only remembered it when I'm in the middle of the road, that kind of feeling.

Pic related is my current work for the day. It feels like each time I draw, the result is a hit or miss depending on what I decide to focus on. This time, I focused on body movement, which failed obviously.

>>2805230
Jesus that guy's a mess. Nah I was referring to you trolling the everloving piss out of everything when I first noticed you around. Though I can't remember any specifics tbqh. I'm glad to see you've learned the error of your ways and gone back to your proper polite roots.
Why, you're almost a beacon of hope for the community..

>>2805293
Anon's fine. I almost thought the same momentarily, especially since he didn't draw a skull on the redo. But it doesn't matter either way. Besides, it would've taken an entire redraw to account for everything anon was trying to do with it.

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more practic

>>2805259
Haven't you?

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What should I change before I attempt to push it further? The chair is just a placeholder btw

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>>2805293
I'ts true, i don't usually draw in anime style but its not that hard.

>>2805436
Anon, thanks, really, but don't.
>delet this

>>2805360
It might help to use guidelines for eye/nose/mouth placements. Your line weight is pretty nice, but the proportions are off, especially in that bottom right.

>>2805422
Actually really fond of this, your sketch looks pretty good so far. The angle looks slightly off, though, maybe move her torso over to the left and increasue the angle just slightly? It doesn't quite match with the directions of her hips. Overall looks pretty nice though.

>>2801161
The hand is too small. Remember that the hand usually is big enough to cover your face.

>>2801161
Flip the image, you'll see that the drawing is getting a lot of distortion.

>>2805422
forehead seems too broad, and either the feet or the knees are out of perspective, but other than that this is going places.

>>2805473
Thank you so much for the kind words and tip my man, I will try to fix that issue you've pointed out.

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>>2805174

No, sorry. Anime blogs are a dime a dozen and I only do this style of art for fun/kill time.

>>2805519

Could you possibly give me a ball park of how much bigger please. Thank you for pointing that out. I might change her hands to holding onto her belly in the future so could you also help me then as well?

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As an american asian I feel like I must contribute to this thread in order to cope with the stress of studying 6 AP classes

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>>2805606

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any critique would be helpful.

The hand on the left (it would be her right hand) is slightly too big. I would also suggest maybe lowering that left elbow a little bit, as arms that go against the side of the body have the elbows line up with the navel. For women, the waist also lines up with the elbows.

>>2805637
The only time the hands would grow big like that is when the arms are outstretched very close to the viewer and I don't think that's what you're trying to do here. Interesting color choice though.

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>>2805615
Loomis

>>2805093
Dude, less is more, that belly looks wrinkly as fuck

>>2805615
Woahhhhh dude 6 AP courses????? Nobody's taken six gen ed classes before, your mind must be like a supercomputer or something because that's impossible. Oh you're Asian American? That must explain why you're able to handle basic coursework in no particular field whatsoever.

At any rate, the design is cute but the execution is not very good. It reeks of symbol drawing and the silhouette of the chest is incredibly bizarre. It's difficult to tell what's supposed to be going on. Unironically recommend Loomis, check him out.

>>2805712
AP classes are not gen ed classes

>>2805712
Aight b0ss, that was good advice and all, but I already know how loomis works man, I actually wanted specific corrections on my silhouette (like what this guy did >>2805630 )
I understand symbol drawing is usually bad, but with this being the stylization thread I think that is somewhat of a moot point. I'm somewhat okay with high amounts of realism in backgrounds but I don't want my style in my figures to be lost when chasing realism. Btw thanks for the jealous comment, it give my brain more strength.

>>2805753
Fix that shoulder anon and otherwise I don't see a problem with it

>>2805769
Thanks for pointing that out anon! I was wondering why it looked odd. I'll post the correction in a min or two

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>>2805615
Idk I tried to change some things, maybe implying too much of my own style in the process, but see it as you will.. the main thing is the hand the cheek bulge, and the boobs.

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>>2805753
Symbol drawing is not a moot point in a stylization thread. Stylization is about bending the rules, not ignoring them. Having unconventional proportions and such via construction is great, but your drawing looks flat, as if it were sort of half-assedly traced from another image because it specifically does not do that. That's what symbol drawing means. Redo Loomis, since you didn't get it before

Also tfw you take so many AP classes your intelligence spikes past the point where you can no longer grasp mere 3d forms in drawing and can only understand ten-dimensional hyperspace and the American Government and Politics exam

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How's this turning out so far? My biggest struggle has always been colors so I've been trying to choose them carefully. Anything look out of place though?

>>2805769
you must be fking blind, hence the reason why I try not to post any drawings in this thread because, too many trolls.

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>>2805815
This

>>2805615
Her fingers are way to long compared to that hand. On the left side the breast seems to merge with the shoulder, and the right one seems WAY smaller than the left.
Right now the head also seems to be on the right half of the torso. Additionally the face just just seems wrong. Maybe because the outline of the face indicates that the face is turned really far all the while the eyes look only slightly tilted. Maybe make the face smaller and adjust the cheek. Im really not sure about the arm length, on the right arm the perspective seems ambiguous. And additionally her hip should be wider because as it stands her shoulders are broader than her hip and that should not be the case.

Lastly I'm just a noob myself so take everything with a grain of salt. The mistakes I pointed out should be alright but how you can fix them is still very vague. The directions I gave (left and right) are all seen from our point of view. Sry that's all I can do.

>>2805797
I think you shrank the hands a little bit too much

>>2805828
All right, I'll try changing couple things. I just needed a detailed list of what I needed to change

>>2805828 me
>>2805833
Already WAY better >>2805797

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>>2805807
I think this guy got baited

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>>2805848
As an american asian I feel like I must contribute to this thread in order to let off some steam scoring 189 on my online IQ test. And I'm only 15. I'm just a nerd like that XD

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>>2805855
This is just sad man. just let it go. This is the art critique board, not /pol/. Don't be like those faggots

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>>2805828
Thanks for the pointers, I changed a few things

>>2805871
Im having trouble determining exactly what you changed.. The only changes Im seeing are thickened lines around her silhouette.

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>>2805906
I pushed the cheek and shoulder a little bit. Also shortened the fingers a bit

>>2805917
I did some practicing on the side for fun, but ignore that for now

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>>2805906
Smaller picture

>>2805635
this looks great, love the colors. blog?

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>>2804904
i think it's b/c when i copy i use two monitors and their colors are calibrated differently
>>2804911
he definitely redraws his lines more than me, and that resizing and transforming he does w/ them is interesting
>>2805025
i don't care about flak. it can be helpful to know if people hate my drawings, if that is their honest opinion and they say why

>>2805057
lol thanks

>>2805230
no i'm not. yeah i agree though that i really gotta work on shape

this is the construction for that drawing btw, i usually just hide it

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i practiced a redraw today too

>>2806003
she looks terribly off balance, like she's standing on her tippy toes. Her stance would look a lot more solid if you drew the foot she's standing on closer to the way that it looks in the ref.

>>2805811
the back looks kind of weird, like it doesn't taper properly

>>2805968
>>2805855
>>2805615
Gr8 b8. Can you not though? Thanks.

>>2806352
On second thought, nevermind. Carry on.

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Some changes that I should do besides of almost everything?

new thread >>2806433

>>2805436
>i don't usually draw in anime style but its not that hard.

it's hard to pull it off, what you drew there does not look like anime