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Draw Thread: Happy New Year Edition

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Previous Thread >>2790158

Post your current drawing here and be an asshole to others!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, DOWNSIZED TO AROUND 1000 PIXELS WIDE, ROTATED TO THE CORRECT ORIENTATION, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one and then kill yourself.
>dA /ic/ group :
>http://4chan-ic.deviantart.com
>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:
>>General resources :
>http://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/ >http://sites.google.com/site/artandwhatnot/
>http://characterdesigns.com/
>http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
>http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts
>>fellowBro's books :
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>>more gay ass books:
>>Figure Drawing Tool:
>http://pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
>http://posemaniacs.com/
>>Photoshop Brushes
>http://cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/tower_of_evilzz

Happy new year everybody!
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Amiibo study.
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Having a problem here with the proportions, I've been moving the features around for a few hours now, but it still looks weird in my eyes, but I can't pinpoint what it is.
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>>2799433

How many generations of jpg compression is in this image? 100?
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Have a big problems with pencils,
but there was nothing else, that I can draw (sorry for engrish)
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>>2799472
>I've been moving the features around for a few hours
thats why you should have a solid drawing before going any further
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>>2799567
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Is the anatomy OK for loli?
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>>2799590
op of this

is this better?
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Does anyone actually prefer Comic Sans all-caps as a dialogue typeface in comics? I had a discussion with a friend about why I'm using Futura(for legibility), but he believes that Comic Sans makes up a lot of the comic aesthetic.
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>>2799584
those look pretty neat anon. keep it up.
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>>2799618
I think fonts with less serifs and sharp edges make the best comic font especially if they're digital
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>>2799618

Comic sans can either be used ironically or for the office party flyer with complimentary clip art. All other uses make you look like a massive tool
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>>2799638
>All other uses make you look like a massive tool
i never understood the deal with that font
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>>2799618
fucking racist shovel
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>>2799654
As a font it is quite mediocre in terms of aesthetics and legibility, designed for children.
however it's its widespread use in the most incongruous places that made it do disgusting: official government, police forms, death announcements, etc
because in normieland, they see that installed on their computer and it's the first non-formal font they see, and they think it'll make their text look nicer, so they use it.
therefore, it comes across as the ultimate proof of total ignorance of form and function. it is so utterly repulsive to use it in such ways, that soon you can't see a character typeset in this demonic font without shuddering.
OTOH, some normies are so completely unable to understand any of that that even having heard why they shouldn't write official documents in comic sans, that they make a point to continue doing it.

fucking hell
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>>2799660
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Guess what movie
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>>2799669
I'm gonna guess Lord of the Rings: Suck My Legolas
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>>2799621
will do, thanks!
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>>2799684
also heres this. i added pink. and some other effect-y type stuff
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>>2799690
abd
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>>2799733
and everything else in this thread hasn't?
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>>2799690
you get a D for "not entirely a failure but very close to it"
you dont understand rendering, brushstrokes, ellipses, how to layer paint properly, its just a fucking mess. i think you could do better if you practiced, but overall its just smeary and not well done.
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>>2799765
what don't i understand about those things?
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>>2799665
So... comics are the perfect place for comic sans?
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>>2799982
beginner thread my dude.
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snikts and bubs.
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>>2799690
you need to blend the edges better.
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is this a good style?
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>>2800195
looks like a retarded character from a 2d Disney film.
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>>2799472
The ears are too low. the eyes are too high on the head.
The eyes should be halfway from the top of the head right in the middle.
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>>2799409
Been practicing my fabric work.
Clothing is something I need more study of.
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>>2800203
sooooo... good then
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>>2800217
uh yuh..sure..if you're going for a retarded girl. nailed it!
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>>2800212
Same model different pose
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Work on not
1. symbol drawing (cartoony is fine. your face you drew shows a lack of knowledge of how a face is put together)
2. scratchy lines, try and get one continous line rather than scratching it, it helps with gesture and cleanliness a lot
3. learn how joints/muscles attach/general anatomy some more
4. misc: think about how a character would apply their weight, imagine some guy punching, what direction is he leaning/where does he anchor himself? think about how the girl sitting is applying her weight and draw it out. also figure out how the ear attaches to the head and draw out the hand, don't be afraid of it
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>>2800212
>>2800223
Try not to chicken scratch, also work on human anatomy part by part. Master eyes, noses, skulls, etc, one by one. Do a thousand of each. Keep going dude, u'll get there.
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>>2800195
Orofacial clept.
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just messing around with general composition and color choices. gonna fuck with perspective too when move ahead with it.
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>>2799660
i laughed
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>>2799618
Microsoft itself deprecated comic sans back in windows vista with MV Boli, and then again in Windows 8 with Segoe Print

you can only usit ironically nowadays. thought it has some sweet style alternate glyphs.
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>>2799409
Ime spending time on a drawing will almost inevitably make it better. Used more time on the left hand, but both we're much worse earlier on.
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>>2800996
godamnit
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>>2799976

Using comic sans make you look like a socially inept person. It's legacy is forever tainted. It's one of those things that if you don't get it just reveals so much about how out of touch you are
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made a digital version
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>>2801050
>made a digital mistake.
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>>2801050
The lip bite looks like she is actually trying to hurt herself, the rendering gave her oddly an old look, everything from the shoulders down you just gave up on.
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Posted some to alt thread, but I think this fits better here. Im thinking about that theatrical backdrop feel with snow on fg, could work on comic.
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>>2801120
pretty good. i feel like he should be in line with the rule of thirds. he feels a little too centered to me.
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>>2801050
you're going for sexy and cute I can tell, but you failed.
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>>2801120
So simple yet looks pretty good
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>>2801050
I know your tryin to make her look sexy and what not, But it doesnt really look like she's actually biting her lip desu.
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>>2800195
Is her face falling apart?
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I worked on this for so long and now I hate it. Ugh.
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>>2801234
add some color and it might improve it. sloppy color added.
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>>2801234
>>2801261
or actually maybe this. did a quick gradient map and a hue/saturation adjustment on the blood. is a bit cleaner looking
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>>2801120
Bear guy returns!
Gj!
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>>2799712
cutie
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>>2801085
>>2801104
>>2801190
>>2801197
i know right? wtf. why is stylization so hard. granted i spent like 30 minutes on it but still. this came out Proko tier
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some dumb painting
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>>2801294
just try again man
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>>2801294
Spent more time then, you got your answer. Dont expect to master a style in 30 minutes.
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>>2801294
no, painting is hard for you, not just stylization. paint something that isn't stylized, it's not gonna look good either. focus on real life first.
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>>2801336
gotta take breaks from that stuff though its fun to try to diverge from realism even if you haven't mastered it yet. my realism work is about 25% to where it needs to be (I'd say I've got about 5 more years of it before I'm where I need to be), and Im currently working on another oil still life, but more and more I am feeling the urge to branch out from it into more expressive work.
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had another go at this
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zarya + gil elvgren
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>>2801451
JUST STOP
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>>2801588
keep giving him attention and see what happens
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Killer Queen
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>>2801451
MOAR omg brian!
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>>2801451
you are bad at art but keep posting cause its fun to watch someone fail and it makes me look better ,thanks
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I was coloring this picture, and noticed the fingers were all fucked.
Can someone unfuck them for me pls?
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>>2801696
you won't get better unless you do it yourself
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>>2801696
ask legoman to fix them, lmao.
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>>2799688
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>>2801451
Wow! So much better than Ruan Jia :)
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I tried to make a few sketches by making mess with brush and later "find" in it some ideas for characters/vehicles
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>>2801866
i think you have a hard time drawing something unless it's at a very specific angle because you don't really have a lot of shapes in mind. something that i see here a lot is every face facing the same direction and i'm convinced that probably one of the few faces you're comfortable drawing. i think you still need to do more life drawings before you can intuitively draw interesting shapes.
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>>2801921
Thanks, you're probably right
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>>2801584
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>>2801970
lmao
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>>2801970
where does the grain come from on this image?
how is that applied?

also I think it's pretty great loving the neck and underpart of the chin
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>>2801988
>where does the grain come from on this image?
>how is that applied?

it's the field blur filter in photshop. reduce the blur amount and just use the noise sliders underneath. i forget what settings i used though.
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I've been doing stylized shit for past few years, i'm trying to get back into realism.
I know The hair is garbage and the nose is pretty damn small, and the eyes are pretty big.
I'm still pretty new when it comes to values so i haven't touched colors yet, now rip it apart so i can learn from my mistakes.
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>>2799618
I'm under the impression that Comic Sans is maligned mainly by people who just parrot someone else's opinion, like "Helvetica is good", without judging by themselves. Also, people that hate anything microsoft, probably.
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>>2801970
In that kind of pose, her clavicle should be more visible. Actually, everything below the head needs some more definition, I almost get the feeling that her head is on backwards. Nice colors, tho.
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>>2801282
Whadap, I always head back here when doing something with pencil.

>>2799690
Honestly Brian, this is your strong point. It doesn't appeal to this segment of viewers, but you know its quite neat. Just forget the weight of old masters and impressionism, painting isn't all about craft. Grow as a person and find something you really want to say, be artist and stop being artisan.

This is bit older stuff, but it's something really different from me.
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>>2802167
appreciate the crit. i'll pay more attention to the forms around the neck.
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>>2801694
shut up chunbum
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>>2802167
actually for a landwhale, the clavicle wouldnt be visible.
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c o m f
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>>2802231
Comfy but kinda flat
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>>2801696
you had the hands right you just got too in your head with the construction. trust your instincts. constructing things is fine but don't go overboard odds are you already know how to draw what you are constructing.
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>>2802250
That's legoman's drawing he just wanted to color it.
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>>2799409
I'm stuck with this idea again, using square as a bg is turning out interesting. I'm not in a state to do proper job, so turned out really rough.
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I've been recently experimenting with perspective. It's a rough start.

I've noticed it looks better without the figure.
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>>2802197
no you shut up briaan.
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>>2802432
instead of using lines try blocking in the values and shapes.
forgot to put the lines back on over this one. but you get the idea
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rain drop
drop top
drawing a streamer in photoshop
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>>2802468
blah blah blah blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah blah vlah vblahhhhhhhh blah lah lhalhl alh blah hhhhh waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>2802468
hey it looks lot better now, nose is bit low but that can be put to style.
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>>2802468
starting to look like a male character now. and awful brush texture for skin you gotta blend your tones.
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>>2802498
>starting to look like a male character
is this better anon?
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>>2802595
salty teenage girl detected
pretty sure he was referring to the facial proportions
i agree on the blending
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>>2802239
tru
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>>2799618
this is some autism level garbage. Dude, just stop it. You're fucking embarrassing. Art isn't your thing.
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>>2802622
>Art isn't your thing
Who gives you the right to determine that?
Not even that artist but fuck you dude.
Go smoke a bowl and chill the fuck out, asshole.
There's nothing even that wrong with it, let people learn.
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>>2799409
middle 2 are from photo ref, pink ladies are not
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wasn't able to work on this much, left it big to see the small details
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>>2802698
Still turning out mostly nice. Really digging the inking. Her upper lip looks a bit off center to me, too far to the left side of the picture. Also the forms of her legs and hips look to be getting a little lost in all that fabric. I know it's big and poofy but I'm sure there's a way to keep the gesture clear while still respecting that.
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starting another comic strip
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>>2802692
gross, use a larger brush and stop using blur
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someone please b e m y friend and collab
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>>2802722
HER LEG IS WOnky i know pleas e dont bully
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>>2802726
It's just too long, it should be more hidden behind the other. The knee definitely needs to be more to the upper left of the picture.
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>>2802722
>>2802726
You didn't section off enough space for her hips. Her whole torso looks compressed and the hip area is probably the biggest offender in that. The ear on the left should probably be a little closer to her head and not quite so angled as well.
Also fuck Sylvanas she's a bitch.
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>>2802721
blur? its just default hard/soft PS brushes
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>>2802730
sylvanas is cool
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>>2802738
cute af
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>>2802743
that spine is certainly broken
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>>2802353 #
Cute face but the hand is really unconvincing especially in the way it connects to the wrist, try to construct the hand and you will probably see it

Pic is some figure drawings I did based on the Croquis cafe videos
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>>2802753
that spine is clearly broken
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>>2802756
These were referenced from the YT channel I mentioned, I don't think I got it too far from the reference though
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>>2802758
What's that model's name famrez?
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>>2802738
I hate her.
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>>2802765
Np anon, here is the video:

https://youtu.be/hMDsxakj7Ow
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>>2802360
Love it, nice clouds
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working on this still life
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>>2800195

"Frint wur ru yurewww? FRINT!!!!"

"I havfsez two see thra froatring rights!!!"
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>>2802852
what
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>>2802719
You should do something with the backgrounds man. The background in the first panel has no sense of scale and no details either which is no bueno for an establishing shot.
Second panel looks okay because it's a closeup.
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>>2802595
they tried to make me go to rehab
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what the fuck should i study to color like chinese gods
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>>2803005
chinese gods
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been trying to think a lot more about the objects i'm detailing.. thanks guy from last time.

it's cool how you can scale up and down the details of stuff when you have an idea of what it's supposed to look like.
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I'm pretty clueless when it comes time to finish something.

I wouldn't finish a silly image like this, but just as an example I imagine trying to tie down and/or refine the lines on it and I just don't even know how to go about it correctly. By the time I'm done "cleaning up" what painfully few pieces I have the likeness with the sketch is essentially lost.

Anyone have any advice on workflow or any recommended resources for this sort of thing? Ive been hiding in my comfort zone of insincere sketching long enough and I could use a little help taking the next step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPGBxgk6rJE
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>>2803005
>http://www.bilibili.com/video/av7719470/
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>>2803005
anon, but you already are a god of the Chinese.
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>>2802118
>that unteralterbach face
It's just so... sharp.
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>>2803028
implying watching videos will help me with understanding color
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>>2803025
watch plixik on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/user/plixik
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>>2803035
>"hey how do i build this boat"
>receives exact video showing how the boat is made
>"this wont help at all"
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>>2803071
>instruction manual is in Chinese
>instead build an island in Japan's waters
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>>2803082
>the chinese gods reverse engineers other tech from other countries and made their own cheapo versions
>wants to be a chinese god but doesn't want to reverse engineer like them
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Struggling with clothing folds, does this look right?
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>>2803094
Clothes are hell to most artists because sometimes they just don't make any fucking sense at all.
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>>2803094
the thicker the fabric the more reluctant it will be to change its form, and so it will have fewer folds and will not be flat against the object, it will wrap around the object as one big chunk and the folds will tend to be rigid rather than straight. Also, the thicker the fabric the the heavier it will be. Because of its weight, it will be pulled in a straight direction towards the ground and will not taper as much as the thin fabric. Hope what I said make some sense...
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>>2803160
Alright, thanks a bunch for the image and explaination.
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>>2799690
desu good painting, couldnt do this. people who say otherwise must be haters or just too good to appreciate art. who knows, maybe they know.
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>>2802840
ultra texture.
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>>2802133
And I'm under the impression that you're just being contrarian and have never bothered to hear an actual typographers explanation of why it's shit. But hey you sure convinced everyone with that pic you posted, fag
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to concur with >>2803202
"helvetica is fantastic" is just a bunch of retarded mac fags.
the comic sans ms hate can come from everybody from typography lovers to people who care about proper aesthetic or even plain etiquette.
one subset is geeks who learned about typography from Latex/knuth and then went from there.
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I don't care much about the rest of the image since it wasn't that serious but I've been having a lot of trouble with arms at this angle (the left arm). Anyone want to show me how it should actually look? Feel free to talk about the rest of the image if you want though.
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>>2803327
Pro tip! Get a mirror.
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warming up with some hands
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>>2802753
You got any sources of your work that I can follow? I love your art style.
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>>2803050
...d-...do you have a particular video in mind? The ones I watched that sounded like they might be pertinent he had already finished the linework or it was just speed up footage of him doing it. I'm afraid I'll need a bit more spoon feeding than that unfortunately.
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no.
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Working on some backgrounds for a cartoon pitch.
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Does it suck and why?
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>>2803735
Here's the thumbnail for the next one.
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>>2803744
Pretty good
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>>2803612
Really great, the background should be finished tho
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Edgy
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>>2803757
Can't unsee penis beak.
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>>2803757
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actually >>2803823 is more fitting for >>2803816
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playing with tones and perspective
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>>2803866
forgot the image ASSHOLE
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>>2803866
mmm i have troubles uploading my image
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still working on this.
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>>2803901
pretty good man. your backgrounds really suck though, all the time actually. I hate how you use exceedingly bright tones for your background. and maybe try to work the angle of your frame/camera view. the yellow sheet is slightly off form a 90 degree angle, that shit bugs me. over all I grade this painting B-
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>>2803901
also stop doing the tick tack toe strokes. shits lazy and retarded. nothing wrong with cross hatching, but that is just lazy ass mother fuckin ' dong kid
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>>2802133
What constitutes an appropriate font should be judged on a case-by-case basis.

Pretty sure there's plenty of examples where comic sans is a good choice: the only real problem with it is that it has been wildely missused.

also, >>>/gd/
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Tried working grayscale to color...
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>>2803922
>>2803923
cumfarty, ignore these idiots, its looking good and you are understanding colour theory well. Van Gogh would be proud.
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>>2803940
(you)
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alright i made the highlights better and the background better.
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Started like a practice but then I really wanted to see it finished.
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>>2804042
Harley's and the couch's perspective doesn't match, its like harley is sitting straight up on a bench rather than slumping down on the couch.
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>>2804042

Looks like if Harley Quinn was a retarded girl with a lazy eye who lives in a trailer in rural Illinois and is named Laura-Jean.

It's impressive how shockingly unsexy you made her.
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made the neck too wide, which made the collar too wide, which made the shoulders too wide...

anything else I fucked up?
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>>2804124
lmao, yes. The hands are a mess, the jaw is too wide and too short. actually the entire head is too short and fat. The nose is small and everything is just generally placed wrong.
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>>2804155
yeah, I struggled a lot with the hands. I think if I fix the jaw, it should make the face look less fat
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>>2803744
cliche as heck, but it's nice anon
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trying to learn chara design
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>>2803071
>literaly nothing told about materials
>have to figure out yourself
>make a boat that wont float cus wrong type of wood
nice argument there buddy
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>>2800411
nice work. keep going.
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how do you guys lay in values? do you establish midtones first, working towards darks and finishing with lighter values on top, or do you prefer a different workflow? at what stage do you put in cast shadows?
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>>2803816
>>2804508
>>2804314
>>2804266
>>2804124
>>2804042
>>2804004

garbage.
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>>2802722
are you ok anon?
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Drew this yesterday for some anon but didn't check back and apparently the thread got deleted (it was surely bait). I don't know if he saw it so here it is again...
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>>2804516
really insightful criticism there, mister sargent
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just doing some gay shit right now
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>>2804567
yep. thanks.

thanks for the unfollow too.
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>>2802719
arent you that weaboo nazi from the other thread
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>>2802896

I think he's trying to make a Tangled joke?
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Thinking about doing a oil painting like this. Just wondering how I could improve the concept. Should I change the facial expression or the pose or add something to it? Just wondering what other people's ideas are.
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>>2804593
just shove it up your ass.

>solution
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>>2804602
Thats not a solution to the problem but thanks for your input anyway. You can go back to riding the shortbus now.
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>>2804593
how can you ask help, if you are not explaining what you are after? So shoving it up your ass is quite legit solution, as anon pointed out.
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>>2804593
What is that thing biting his head.
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>>2804626
I operate short buses kid.
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>>2804570
>gay shit
Don't tell me she have a dick
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>>2804516
>>2804602
>I feel very small and helpless. Please hold me.
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>>2804665
>feminine penis
ftfy
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>>2804694
I've always been more of a masculine vagina guy
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>>2804004
you made the bg significantly worse
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>>2804722
no it looks a little better. he's starting to learn how to create a spot light effect.

did he do a good job. no. it's hashed in and it shows off his minimal thinking and efforts involved.

van gogh would probably burn it to stay warm during the harsh winters he endured.
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>>2804712
sure do love me some buff curtains.
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>>2804732
chunbum please leave
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What makes Values look muddy?, I've been struggling with this since i've started to render.
People always tell me my Values look muddy but what that mean no one explained to me ever.
So i would be really happy if someone could take the time to explain it to me.
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working on a charcter concept for a short comic im making (this is more of a silhouette rly) but im not too sure what i could add to his suit to make him more original? any tips?
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>>2804787
Post or pointout your work. Its hard to explain muddy values without an example.
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Budge, you skulk!
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>>2804847
gonna finish it? cucker
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>>2804812
I like it, its pretty solid looking character, if you want to add something i would probably add a belt of some sorts just to indicate the waist, but it can do without it if you are going for the low crotch baggy design.
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>>2804677
hot
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>>2804508
I've always wanted to know this too, I don't know people's work flow and I always feel lost when I plop in values. Bump this question
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>>2804508
I belong in /beg/ so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I start with mid tone background, then depending on the local value I will go darker than lighter, filling in the darks and shadows first adds more solidity, or at least to me. Also, do you have the ref you used? I kinda just wanna see that qt
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What makes Values look muddy?, I've been struggling with this since i've started to render.
People always tell me my Values look muddy but what that mean no one explained to me ever.
So i would be really happy if someone could take the time to explain it to me.
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>>2805005
forgot to mention, cast shadows come last for me. I establish the darks then the lights, then bounce light if there is any, and then cast shadows
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>>2805007
post something...
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new painting. tried a different style.
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>>2805071
Spastic Leyendecker?
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Is no troubles arise if I will have two different nicknames for publishing and signatures of my works, one name for regular artworks, and another for erotic?
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>>2804573
>weaboo
>nazi
how does that even work?
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>>2805082
That's what I do and it hasn't been problematic for me.
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>>2805090
technically it doesn't. The Germans and Japanese were part of the axis powers with the Italians, so technically Italians and Germans can't be weebs. But the word weeb usually applies to Americans and the Americans were enemies of the Axis during WW2.

The nazi's and Italians can't be weebs, Americans aren't nazi's, so you cannot be a weeb and a nazi. they cancel each other out.

neo-nazis that aren't of German descent are just faking it, so you can't be a neo-nazi and a weeb either.
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>>2805071
holy fuck dude, how much money do you spend a month on oil paint?
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photoshop stopped workin a bit into this, but i puush'd it anyway.

tryna get better at developing figures and torsos from imagination
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>>2805169
i only use about 9 different colors and they're all series 1 ($10 a tube for a big tube), and I'd say I have to buy new paints every 2-3 months or so.

If you buy cheap colors you can buy mid grade paints for cheap, and you don't have to use the highest grade canvases or brushes.
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>>2805172
explains why your high saturation colors are dogshit
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>>2805312
That is beautifully terrifying I love it.
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Line work is almost done with this bitch before I paint it. Honestly not feeling the sword(looks short) and I want to improve it before its set in stone.
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>>2805320
Thanks anon. I'm still working on it, but how are my values so far? Do I have any proportional issues?
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I was working on this Rei Ayanami, but now that i see it better, i think her head is fucked up.
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>>2805339
Scooch her chin up and out. Right now it's receding into her neck. Otherwise pretty legit.
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>>2805334
Proportions and values look good. How's my drawing?(pls be blunt)
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>>2805346
Which one?
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>>2805365
Shit the satsuki one. The non digital paper one fuck.
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>>2799684
kekle
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>>2805378
The first thing i notice are the classic hand-hiding techniques, so I see you're not at all comfortable with drawing hands. You don't have a fundamental grasp of 3d forms and that's something that you're going to have to sit down and practice if you're going to improve. Granted, I still have a lot of trouble with this myself but I'll try to redline it for you when I am at a proper computer.
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>>2805339
The arm seems to get smaller and smaller from what I've observed, and maybe you should adjust the shoulder plates?
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>>2805398
Good eye, I am shit at drawing hands! Yes I'm going to have to research this 3D forms thing some more. Here's a semi better photo for you to redline.
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>>2805425
Shit forgot the photo.
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>>2805007
When people say colours are muddy they usually mean the saturation is lower overall which results in a dull palette, and/or the hues have little variation with no clear harmony which gives a boring look.

I haven't seen muddy being used for values, but I think it may be related to gradation and tonal range. It could mean your gradients are not smooth and/or you don't use a large enough range (lack of variation).
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dunno what i'm doing, i should be better than this
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>>2805453
did you forget how to draw with colors?
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>>2805005
sounds like i'll put in local values a bit later than you but other than that my process is pretty much the same.

>>2805005
>Also, do you have the ref you used? I kinda just wanna see that qt
see pic related. 2cute 2patoot
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>>2805456
what do you mean
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>>2805465
you need to define edges. needs more dark tones. it's like you're hesitating.
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>>2805468
thanks, i really am.
i'm doubting myself every step of the way
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>>2805453
You probably could try a brush with that varies the flow with pressure instead of opacity by default, that at least make painting easier for me
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>>2802468
Rain drop
Drop top

Just fucking stop
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>>2805487
>>2805488
>>2805504

holy fuck you are creepy. Jesus.
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>>2805584
>that moustache
sure perfect
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>>2805584
>>2805593

People with a waifu are less autistic than you my man.
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>>2799409
for some reason I really enjoy drawing underground environments, which is occasionally frustrating because there's not a lot of free space down there. It's got me more interested in perspective and field of view
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any critique would be helpful
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>>2805632
this one I'd drawn about two years ago, during a really dark moment of my life. I saw it as a representation of my depression, the sensation of being at the bottom of a well with only dark passages in sight. I ended up being homeless a couple weeks after I finished this.
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>>2805641
>>2805642
>>2805646
shitposters like you ruin draw threads

choke on glass faggot
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>>2805633
The light is nice, but a lot of the values are very muddy and the line definition is poor. I like the psychedelic values on the drapery but again it's really muddy.
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>>2805646
>>2805642
>>2805641

Knew the first one, didn't know the others. Holy shiet.
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>>2805562
Lmao
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>>2805426
>that face
>that arm

holy shit senpai.
Work on anatomy, form and figure before you fuck around with character studies of any kind. Draw hundreds or even thousands of faces, hands, skulls, torsos and arms before you start doing complete people. Work on the combinations of neck shoulder and torso, shoulder torso and abdomen, wrist forearm and hand, elbow shoulder and upper arm, wrist forearm upper arm, etc. don't forget the lower body either
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>>2805312
I almost thought it was a photograph of a statue when looking at the thumbnail. The light and values are great but it's rather dark, gray and neutral in an unappealing way. Have you tried experimenting with cold/warm colors to extrapolate on light and shadow? It can go a long way in improving a piece and also your understanding of light.
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>>2805487
brian stop talking to yourself in third person. fuck.

mental health is not romantic, kid.
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>>2805262
Decent, even good but the anatomy is a little off. The left thigh-hip-knee looks odd, as does the left arm (it looks bulky) while the right arms wrist and hand looks shrunken. The face is great an the torso/abdomen are surprisingly good, although the right breast looks somewhat sunken.

You're doing fantastic, just keep working!
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>>2805171
Bring the shoulders and spine upwards and just a little forward, and bulk the back muscles slightly. The torso looks short and the arms fit like a shirt on a cardboard box.

Not too bad for a from-memory sketch
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>>2805636
I Really connect with this. Good luck with it all bro :)
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>>2805641
>>2805642
>>2805646
whaaaaaat the fuck am i reading. k well im definitely not that guy... im drawing her again cause she feels like crap and she likes my drawings.
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>>2805700
>TIME to get some HOT INTERNET PUSSY with my ADVANCED ARTISTIC PROWESS
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>>2805703
i don't fuck or masturbate anymore. there's no pussy to get. and my experience with women up until i quit was just be with anyone i want. i never had a hard time with girls. The hard part is getting women to date you when they can't have sex with you, especially if they're in their 20s. as they get older they care more about a guy who's committed and doesnt care that their tits are saggy. I'm going to be very desirable (and probably wealthy) at 40-50 years old assuming i don't get lung cancer from chain smoking.
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>>2805706
no comment
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>>2805713
ok first of all, fuck off. girls don't like guys that want to fuck them, it seems desperate. if you honestly want to be with any girl you want find a way to stop having sex and jerking off. If you can hold the fact you'll never fuck them over their head they'll want to be with you. It's the most attractive quality in a guy, accuracy and restraint. It's as alpha as you can be. I don't need to work out, i don't need to get better at art. All I need to do is never masturbate to her or have sex with her. I've been talking to her nonstop for a year cause fuck it i've got nothing to lose. There's no point at which I'll just move on cause why would I? It's what I want for my life and I'm harmless. There's nothing to lose or gain. My life is already ruined, I'm just trying to be with someone who I think can be a good friend to me. For how weird I am, Catt's right up there with me in weirdness. And she genuinely enjoys having me to talk to every once in a while because everyone else that follows her is basically you. There's nothing attractive about sex, anon. Cut back and you'll see how confident you become.
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>>2805715
WHO GIVES A FUCK!? i just like drawing and talking to her. I don't worry myself with what she likes or when she responds i just like sharing my thoughts with her
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>>2805725
cause she still talks to me. pretty weird if you ask me.
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>>2805745
you have no imagination. thats your problem. girls just want guys to treat them well. i could cuck a 6'4 lumberjack in a second. I'm the most attractive man on the planet. I don't worry about other men. If it's sex she wants I can go down on her for 3 hours and never want anything in return. Just go to bed afterwards. Cause I don't need the shit. Thats a better night than a guy cumming early and crying after sex cause he feels like he can do better. Fucking is for pussies.
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>>2805772
you say as you finish jerking off and cum all over your face by accident
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>>2805775
>How are you so sure shes as disdainful of it as you are?
cause she's a girl. and she doesn't enjoy being raped. if she has the opportunity to be the dominant person in a relationship why wouldn't she be? You think women really enjoy being submissive? That goes against the entire nature of the universe. If you can have power you take it. The real problem is women don't believe men when they say they don't have sex, you have to prove it every day. Especially with younger women. Older women expect men to not have sex with them, but young girls still think they're hot. When Catt turns 35 she'll probably value the idea of a guy not wanting sex as much way more. Cause that's what happens to women as they get older. You guys think I'm only worried about short term happiness. I am going to spend my 20s and 30s getting better at art at the expense of everything else and then be happy later in life. It's the smart thing to do.
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>>2805778
keep telling yourself that cuck. be grateful it's catt and not your girlfriend.
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>more replies involving drama, gossip, bait, trolling, and general shitposting
>than there are of actual critiques and legit artwork discussion

Friendly reminder that /ic/ is the tumblr of 4chan.
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what in the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>2805783
>you think women really enjoy being submissive?
They do tho.
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>>2805814
women are just men with pussies. dont get it twisted. if men had no choice they'd take over the world.
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>>2805825
>>2805830
you guys are so creepy
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>>2805341
>>2805419

Thank you guys, i correct the things you pointed out, and some other, what do you think now?
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>>2802468
Don't let these anons get you down, I love your work.
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Keep your degenerate autism from polluting these threads, you disgusting losers.

New thread: >>2806010

New thread: >>2806010

New thread: >>2806010
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>>2805108
I still don't get why anybody would even want to be a nazi... They know those retards lost the war, right? What? they wanna be fucking losers that will shoot themselves when the enemy is at the door?
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